The Michael Knowles Show - May 17, 2024


Ep. 1492 - Remember Wuhan？ Fauci Lied, People Died


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Did the National Institutes of Health fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China before the COID19 pandemic? Is it even a thing? And if so, how much money was spent on it?

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00:00:30.000 Remember the crazy, dangerous conspiracy theory that the American National Institutes of Health
00:00:36.040 funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China, before the COVID-19 pandemic?
00:00:43.180 Remember that?
00:00:44.180 Senator Rand Paul brought the issue to national attention three years ago,
00:00:48.240 and Dr. Fauci vehemently denied it.
00:00:52.180 Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect
00:00:58.020 incorrect that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research
00:01:07.260 in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:01:09.560 Do they fund Dr. Barrick?
00:01:11.520 We do not fund gain-
00:01:13.060 Do you fund Dr. Barrick's gain-of-function research?
00:01:16.060 Dr. Barrick does not doing gain-of-function research,
00:01:19.360 and if it is, it's according to the guidelines, and it is being conducted in North Carolina.
00:01:26.400 He's not doing it, and it's totally fine that it is.
00:01:29.300 But in any case, it's not in Wuhan, and you are totally and completely incorrect.
00:01:34.280 After that exchange, even though Paul brought the receipts,
00:01:39.760 all the fact-checkers attacked Rand Paul, and they defended Dr. Fauci.
00:01:44.220 Big tech censored the people who agreed with Rand Paul.
00:01:47.680 Then, the two of these guys sparred again two years ago.
00:01:51.620 Again, a full-throated denial from America's top doctor.
00:01:55.540 Will you today finally take some responsibility for funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan?
00:02:02.860 Senator, with all due respect, I disagree with so many of the things that you've said.
00:02:08.160 First of all, gain-of-function is a very nebulous term.
00:02:13.000 We have spent, not us, but outside bodies, a considerable amount of effort
00:02:18.760 to give a more precise definition to the type of research that is of concern
00:02:25.120 that might lead to a dangerous situation.
00:02:28.620 You are aware of that.
00:02:30.240 That is called P3CO. 0.91
00:02:32.780 We're aware that you deleted gain-of-function from the NIH website.
00:02:36.520 Well, I can get back to that in a moment if we have time.
00:02:39.980 So when EcoHealth Alliance took the virus,
00:02:42.400 and combined it with WIV-1 and caused a recombinant virus that doesn't exist in nature,
00:02:49.940 and it made mice sicker, mice that had humanized cells,
00:02:53.320 you're saying that that's not gain-of-function research.
00:02:56.080 According to the framework and guidelines...
00:02:59.240 So what you're doing is defining away gain-of-function.
00:03:02.120 You're simply saying it doesn't exist because you changed the definition on the NIH website.
00:03:06.400 So Rand Paul hammers him, brings all these facts.
00:03:10.040 Fauci weakens a little.
00:03:11.220 He goes, well, you know, it kind of depends on what the definition of gain-of-function is,
00:03:16.660 you know, isn't it?
00:03:17.360 And again, the fact-checkers come to Fauci's defense.
00:03:21.460 Big tech censors come to Fauci's defense.
00:03:24.440 Same story, despite clear evidence undermining Fauci's claim.
00:03:28.440 Then yesterday, Lawrence Tabak, the principal deputy director of the National Institutes of
00:03:34.080 Health, testified before Congress, and guess what he admitted?
00:03:37.800 Dr. Tabak, did NIH fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology through ECHO Health?
00:03:48.420 It depends on your definition of gain-of-function research.
00:03:52.040 If you're speaking about the generic term, yes, we did.
00:03:57.660 Because, but this is research, the generic term is research that goes on in many, many labs around the country.
00:04:04.820 It is not regulated, and the reason it's not regulated is it poses no threat or harm to anybody.
00:04:11.080 Well, it depends on the meaning of the word.
00:04:13.340 If you mean the word in the way that people have always meant it,
00:04:16.700 if you mean, like, the meaning and the definition of the word, then, yes, we absolutely did.
00:04:21.760 But if you mean a totally different definition of the word that does not apply to the word
00:04:25.760 and is not what the word means, then, you know, I don't know.
00:04:29.180 But, yeah, if you mean the word, then, yeah, we did that.
00:04:31.920 So, Rand Paul was right.
00:04:36.020 You know, I hate to say I told you so.
00:04:37.440 I was right.
00:04:38.040 You were right.
00:04:39.300 Fauci was wrong.
00:04:40.680 The fact checkers were wrong.
00:04:42.360 The big tech censors were wrong.
00:04:44.220 And many of them were not just wrong, oopsie-daisy.
00:04:46.940 They were deceitful.
00:04:48.060 They lied.
00:04:49.480 And now, years after any of it mattered, when pretty much no one cares,
00:04:55.620 now we get proven right.
00:04:58.220 They admit it.
00:04:59.040 Another conspiracy theory proven to be true.
00:05:03.140 Because the truth usually gets out in the end.
00:05:06.500 But that doesn't bother the liars.
00:05:09.200 Because none of them will be held to account.
00:05:11.460 And now they will move on to the next hoax.
00:05:14.180 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:05:14.840 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:05:15.660 Welcome back to the show.
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00:06:31.740 While we're talking about Congress, an exchange took place yesterday in Congress that was embarrassing
00:06:38.440 even for that already rather degraded body.
00:06:41.640 This was care of Congressman Jasmine Crockett.
00:06:46.240 She is apparently a U.S. representative from the state of Texas behaving like a juvenile delinquent. 1.00
00:06:56.060 You just voted to do it.
00:06:58.520 God did it first.
00:06:59.280 So you don't want to talk about it.
00:07:00.520 You just voted to do it.
00:07:01.140 Order.
00:07:01.740 I'm trying to get clarification.
00:07:03.380 Look it.
00:07:03.740 Calm down.
00:07:04.820 Calm down.
00:07:05.200 No, no, no, no.
00:07:05.840 Because this is what y'all do.
00:07:07.940 So I'm trying to get clarification.
00:07:08.660 Hey, Ms. Crockett, you're not recognized.
00:07:10.380 Ms. Crockett.
00:07:10.620 I can't hear you with your yelling.
00:07:11.860 Calm down.
00:07:13.240 Can you please calm down?
00:07:13.860 No.
00:07:13.900 Don't tell me to calm down.
00:07:15.220 Calm down.
00:07:15.540 Because y'all talk noise and then you can't take it.
00:07:17.740 You're out of control.
00:07:18.640 Because if I come and talk about her, y'all going to have a problem.
00:07:22.320 Mr. Chairman.
00:07:22.800 Mr. Chairman.
00:07:23.800 All right.
00:07:24.160 Sure.
00:07:24.920 I couldn't quite make out the exact words, but I think it was something to the effect of,
00:07:27.560 if y'all come and talk S-H-I-T about her, y'all going to have a problem or something to that effect.
00:07:34.320 This person should not be allowed to work at a Wendy's, much less in the U.S. Congress.
00:07:39.520 And even that statement is unfair to Wendy's workers.
00:07:43.100 I've frequented many Wendy's over the years, and the vast majority of employees that I've had the pleasure of interacting with
00:07:49.780 have been much more mature and respectful than the average member of Congress, certainly than that woman.
00:07:56.020 Congress is already a kind of a degraded body.
00:07:59.100 It was always built to be that way.
00:08:00.820 It was never built to be the most dignified house of a branch of government, but it's become especially degraded in recent years.
00:08:08.280 The problem here is not that this woman, whatever, Crockett, the problem is not that she's combative. 0.99
00:08:16.240 The problem is not even that the members get a little boisterous.
00:08:19.900 That happens in the U.K. too.
00:08:22.420 But consider the difference between prime minister's questions in the U.K.
00:08:27.780 and whatever that ridiculous display, like it was taking place in the streets of a bad neighborhood yesterday.
00:08:36.360 Consider the difference here.
00:08:37.760 This is just one exchange, a famous one between the conservative John Major and the Democrat, the liberal, new laborer, Tony Blair back in the 90s.
00:08:48.000 Boisterous, but not the same thing.
00:08:51.440 Perhaps, Madam Speaker, he would like to tell me whether he has received the support of the 50 MPs who defied his front bench over Massachusetts.
00:09:02.280 Madam Speaker, there's one very big difference.
00:09:04.600 There's one very big difference.
00:09:05.660 No.
00:09:07.760 Oh, no, there's one very big difference.
00:09:10.400 I lead my party.
00:09:11.960 He follows his.
00:09:15.120 Oh, owned.
00:09:16.980 So that's boisterous.
00:09:17.960 There's cheering.
00:09:18.960 There's jeering.
00:09:20.280 But it's not.
00:09:21.700 Y'all talking S-H-I-T.
00:09:23.280 I'm going to come at you and I'm going to wait.
00:09:24.880 You know, you're out of control.
00:09:25.960 It's not.
00:09:26.360 It's just because one can have a boisterous debate and have it still be elevated and respectful and erudite and serious.
00:09:33.760 And have a point.
00:09:35.020 This woman doesn't have any of those things. 1.00
00:09:38.680 Jasmine Crockett.
00:09:40.640 Very, very pathetic.
00:09:43.400 Not an ounce of wit.
00:09:44.800 Nothing twee about it like you get with the Brits.
00:09:48.440 It's just degraded and ugly.
00:09:51.480 How did we get to the point?
00:09:53.140 I think of all the great moments in American statesmanship.
00:09:57.820 Nathan Hale.
00:09:58.520 I regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.
00:10:01.560 Franklin Roosevelt.
00:10:02.700 We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
00:10:05.720 Jasmine Crockett.
00:10:07.300 Y'all come and talk in S-H-I-T.
00:10:09.620 Well, I'm going to come at you.
00:10:11.080 And doesn't quite.
00:10:12.960 One of these things is not like the other.
00:10:15.240 Now, speaking of misuses of language, there's a video that has gone viral.
00:10:19.020 Hat tip to our friend over at Libs of TikTok.
00:10:20.660 Of a woman explaining how correcting bad grammar, if you are correcting a black person, is racist.
00:10:33.580 Why grammar policing is racist, part two.
00:10:36.840 So, we talked about AAVE in my last video.
00:10:39.420 So, let's talk about how it came to be.
00:10:40.760 In this country, and well across any other European colonized nation that had black slavery, 0.61
00:10:48.200 teaching slaves how to read and write was illegal.
00:10:51.300 Thus, creating a generation, and many generations actually, that were functionally illiterate.
00:10:56.400 Fast forward to Jim Crow era South, and black schools were severely underfunded.
00:11:00.200 And their teachers did not really have any criteria to be teaching.
00:11:03.300 They were just doing the best.
00:11:04.500 Creating a whole other host of generations that were also illiterate.
00:11:08.000 Fast forward to today, and some of the lowest literacy rates in this country are in black 1.00
00:11:12.580 and brown communities.
00:11:13.940 These school systems are racist.
00:11:16.760 How we dictate what is proper English is racist.
00:11:20.880 Yelling at a black and brown person for not speaking English in the way that you want them 1.00
00:11:25.720 to be speaking English, even though you've created an entire system to make sure that they
00:11:29.440 did not know how to speak English, that's just racism to me.
00:11:34.640 That's just racism to this girl, because everything is racism. 1.00
00:11:38.000 To this girl, even in her own words.
00:11:41.500 Notice, she says, it is racist to teach a black person how to speak English correctly.
00:11:47.880 And the reason for that is because historically, black people were not taught to speak English
00:11:53.700 correctly, which is racist.
00:11:55.860 Hold on, what?
00:11:56.860 Her argument is that it is racist to teach black people how to speak English correctly and
00:12:04.520 also racist not to teach black people how to speak English correctly.
00:12:08.580 Anything you do.
00:12:09.580 If you haven't noticed it yet among this particular modern type of leftist activist, anything you
00:12:19.060 do is racist, anything you can't.
00:12:22.840 Well, what if you, huh?
00:12:23.860 What if I neither correct nor refuse to correct the English?
00:12:27.740 What if I just don't even talk to the black person?
00:12:29.600 Well, that would be very racist.
00:12:31.200 Well, what if I do talk to the black person, but I don't tell them anything or ask them, 1.00
00:12:38.660 what do you do?
00:12:39.540 What do you do?
00:12:39.940 You're stuck.
00:12:40.620 You're rendered speechless, actually, which is the point of all of this.
00:12:44.420 Yes, thank you.
00:12:45.180 That's the point of political correctness and wokeness, all of which is just, those
00:12:49.480 are euphemisms for the logical conclusion of liberalism, which is to get you to shut
00:12:55.260 up and let the libs have all the power. 1.00
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00:14:07.340 Speaking of institutions dumbing down the culture, NBC has just announced a new TV show
00:14:14.240 about queer animals. 0.95
00:14:18.860 The paparazzi really are everywhere.
00:14:21.500 Everything you were taught as a kid is wrong.
00:14:23.400 You make me want to dance.
00:14:24.940 Gay penguins. 1.00
00:14:26.060 Bisexual lions.
00:14:27.640 Sex-changing clownfish.
00:14:29.500 This is a queer planet. 1.00
00:14:31.960 Queerness has always existed. 0.99
00:14:33.940 It's only in humans that we have such a stigma about it.
00:14:36.000 The idea of just having two fixed sexes is clearly out of style.
00:14:41.960 Mother nature is pretty open-minded.
00:14:46.260 Sex is not just for reproduction.
00:14:49.220 It's clear that no matter where you look on our planet, nature is full of queer surprises. 1.00
00:14:55.900 To be honest, we should all probably get laid a little more than we do.
00:14:59.100 This stuff happens all over the animal kingdom.
00:15:06.800 It's only among humans that there is a stigma about it.
00:15:11.460 Okay, let's say for a second that that is true.
00:15:14.260 Let's say that there are a lot of gay animals. 1.00
00:15:18.240 Animals also rape and eat each other.
00:15:20.260 And it's only among humans that there is a stigma about raping and eating members of your own species and stuff like that.
00:15:29.600 It's only among humans.
00:15:31.720 Does that mean the animals are right or the humans are right?
00:15:35.320 Does that mean having nothing but bestial instinct and appetite is preferable to having reason?
00:15:44.520 Where we can reason about things and the justice of certain acts, which is right.
00:15:48.780 Now, I say we have to assume that their premises are true here just for the sake of argument.
00:15:54.380 But the premises are pretty suspect.
00:15:56.780 They've been trying to push this for years.
00:15:58.640 I remember years, I think decades ago at this point, they found a couple of penguins, male penguins at the Central Park Zoo, who held flippers one time.
00:16:07.800 And they said, see, they're gay penguins.
00:16:09.460 Look at these gay penguins or whatever. 1.00
00:16:11.640 And a lot of the studies about the gay animals are dubious, let's say.
00:16:17.660 But even if they were true, so what?
00:16:21.300 Well, all that means is that we're exalting behavior that is conducted by irrational beasts who do all sorts of terrible things like rape and eat and murder each other all the time.
00:16:32.460 And we wouldn't defend those behaviors because we recognize that there are two meanings to the word normal.
00:16:38.540 And I guess that's the slate of hand that the liberals are using here. 0.55
00:16:42.060 They're saying all this kind of behavior is normal.
00:16:44.200 I don't really know where they get the transgenderism in the animal kingdom other than animals that are by nature hermaphroditic. 1.00
00:16:53.220 But I don't think there are too many zebras going in and getting things chopped off. 0.99
00:16:58.160 But the slate of hand is this double meaning of the word normal.
00:17:03.540 Because normal can refer to the common behavior of a group.
00:17:07.920 And normal can also refer to an abstract standard to which we aspire, which we try to uphold.
00:17:17.660 Norms, you know, like standards and norms.
00:17:19.800 And those things are rather different.
00:17:21.440 The reason those things are different is because this is a fallen world.
00:17:24.680 The dual meaning of the word normal, in fact, is one evidence or one way that we all implicitly acknowledge original sin.
00:17:33.060 Because we know that the world ought to be different than it is.
00:17:36.840 Something is broken and fallen about the world.
00:17:40.080 But when we as human beings who do have abstract reason, who can think about justice,
00:17:44.920 and we all, even if you want to deny that there is such a thing as reason or objective truth,
00:17:51.600 we all behave as though there is because we put human beings on trial for rape and murder and violations of justice.
00:17:57.360 We don't put gorillas on trial.
00:17:59.000 We don't put zebras on trial.
00:18:00.400 We don't put penguins on trial.
00:18:01.920 Because that would be wrong because they don't, we acknowledge that they don't have use of reason.
00:18:05.900 And we acknowledge that human beings do have use of reason,
00:18:07.840 even if we abuse our reason and explicitly deny our reason.
00:18:11.500 We still behave because we have courts of justice and society.
00:18:15.140 We still behave as though that is real.
00:18:18.560 And so we recognize that chasm and we endeavor to live in according with higher norms,
00:18:25.980 with the norms of how we ought to live, not with merely how things are.
00:18:30.980 Until it comes to everybody's like favorite weird appetite.
00:18:35.000 And then that one's totally okay.
00:18:36.400 Often it expresses itself in weird sex stuff because sex is very important to human beings.
00:18:40.980 But it can be anything.
00:18:42.580 It could be an appetite for a drug or an appetite for food or an appetite for whatever.
00:18:46.920 Sloth.
00:18:47.400 And we say, oh, it's normal.
00:18:48.640 Oh, it's okay.
00:18:49.520 It's normal.
00:18:50.100 We try to write that one out.
00:18:51.880 But no, there are, yeah, there is common behavior in a fallen world.
00:18:55.900 But there's also the behavior that we know we ought to exhibit because we have reason and conscience.
00:19:00.680 So we can deny that, but that makes us no higher than the beasts.
00:19:06.540 And the beasts do all sorts of nasty things.
00:19:09.020 Now, speaking of pop culture, I have just seen what I think is, without question, the lamest clip ever to be recorded over the past century.
00:19:22.180 And that would be Joe Biden's Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, playing guitar and singing a Neil Young song in Kiev, in his official position as Secretary of State.
00:19:34.520 We'll be right back.
00:20:04.520 I can't take it anymore.
00:20:19.940 Enough, enough.
00:20:20.800 Stop it, please.
00:20:22.640 Because he's not even, it's so awful, it's so cringe, but he's not even doing the voice right.
00:20:30.220 He's singing the song as bad singers do.
00:20:32.880 I do this myself.
00:20:33.960 He's singing the song an octave down.
00:20:35.540 But if you're going to do the Neil Young song, this sort of ugly, lame, boomer Neil Young song, you might as well do the, keep on rocking in a free world.
00:20:48.060 Almost cut my hair.
00:20:50.740 There is a town.
00:20:52.120 At least do the thing.
00:20:53.640 But he's not even doing it.
00:20:54.420 He's just doing the lamest possible version in Kiev.
00:20:57.780 Oh, yeah, that's going to scare off Putin.
00:20:59.540 Hey, hey, Russians, turn around. 1.00
00:21:02.340 We got to get out of here.
00:21:03.300 Tony Blinken singing boomer hippie songs.
00:21:05.920 Oh, no.
00:21:07.200 It called to mind what I had previously thought was the lamest clip to go around, which was the, in 2015, the then Secretary of State, the lib John Kerry, deciding to console France in the wake of a terror attack by flying out James Taylor.
00:21:26.960 Thank you.
00:21:28.960 Winter, spring, summer, or fall.
00:21:32.260 So this was really weird and pathetic, too.
00:22:01.980 And the little French word in there.
00:22:03.520 And ain't it great to know you got a friend?
00:22:06.060 Like, no, give us weapons and stuff.
00:22:08.180 Help us deal with the crazy Muslim terrorists. 1.00
00:22:10.280 We don't need James Taylor.
00:22:12.520 And by the way, that was James Taylor.
00:22:14.520 James Taylor is a good musician.
00:22:16.740 James Taylor was the first musician signed by the Beatles when they started a record label.
00:22:20.900 Okay.
00:22:21.060 At least that it's gotten so much worse that we don't even have, they didn't even fly out Neil Young.
00:22:26.380 It's just Tony Blinken croaking out this lame hippie song.
00:22:31.140 Well, guess what, folks?
00:22:33.160 Diddies sung by old hippies are not going to solve political problems in the world. 0.80
00:22:37.740 Maybe that's the problem with Biden's grand strategy.
00:22:40.140 Biden thinks that the way you solve geopolitical problems is by, you know, ripping a bong and just grooving to the vibes of some old hippies who think that their acoustic guitar is going to bring world peace.
00:22:55.280 Ain't going to happen.
00:22:56.380 Didn't work in the 60s.
00:22:58.020 Didn't work in 2015.
00:23:00.120 Not working now for Joe Biden.
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00:24:31.900 My favorite comment yesterday is from Chestnut Mouse, 6823.
00:24:36.020 Biden had the gulions to make a—he wrote a different word, but I'll clean it up a little.
00:24:40.280 Biden had the gulions to make a joke about Trump being politically prosecuted.
00:24:43.760 I hope Trump calls that out.
00:24:47.120 He has called it out.
00:24:49.060 He is calling it out.
00:24:51.120 Trump has called out the political persecution—forget prosecution—persecution since day one.
00:24:57.500 And Biden and the Democrats have all kind of laughed about it.
00:25:00.460 Obama kind of laughed about it back when it was Obama doing it in 2015.
00:25:03.440 And now Biden's laughing about it because they feel that they got the power and they're not going to have to pay price for it.
00:25:09.400 Okay, I'll keep calling it out, but we got to get some political power to really deal with it.
00:25:15.180 Okay, I mentioned that ISIS or some kind of Islamic attack on France.
00:25:20.680 Speaking of political attacks, we have one closer to home on the religion that formed our civilization, the true religion.
00:25:27.840 The view is attacking Christianity.
00:25:31.060 Specifically, the view is attacking Catholicism.
00:25:34.200 And it's not even the huge libs like Sonny Hostin or Joy Behar.
00:25:37.740 It's this woman, Sarah Haynes.
00:25:40.560 She is supposedly the moderate on the view.
00:25:43.700 And she was incensed by Harrison Butker's speech at Benedictine College.
00:25:49.440 So she went on this diatribe against Catholicism.
00:25:54.520 Colin Kaepernick was standing up for the rights of many and saying in a social justice moment, this is a reminder that we're not there yet.
00:26:02.360 What this man is doing is not just a devout Catholic.
00:26:05.040 This is someone who's practicing something called the traditional Latin mass, which is divergent from the majority of Catholics.
00:26:12.240 It's compared to being cult-like and extremists like some religions in the Middle East and Asia.
00:26:17.200 So this is a very extreme religion. 0.96
00:26:19.660 And what bothers me about that as a Christian is that when people abuse Christianity, they often not only cherry-pick from the Bible, they misinterpret and lie by omission, by taking out parts that would have explained something a little better.
00:26:35.880 So what I can say to him as a Christian is if you're using this to oppress a people or hold them down, you're not walking with Jesus.
00:26:42.840 If you are using the religion, if you are more obsessed with the religious rituals and practices than you are with the word of Jesus, you're not walking with Jesus.
00:26:49.720 And if you're using it for the judgment of others and as a weapon to beat people down, you're also not walking with Jesus.
00:26:55.300 So I would really encourage him, really encourage him to find the best parts of faith and not diverge into extremists.
00:27:02.900 So declares Pope Sarah Haynes, nihil obstat.
00:27:08.540 So much of, I mean, virtually everything she said there was wrong.
00:27:12.700 Her knowledge of Christianity seems to be a little weak here.
00:27:17.040 She says, look, he's a devout Catholic, this Harrison Butker.
00:27:19.860 But he's not just a devout Catholic.
00:27:22.140 He practices something called the traditional Latin Mass.
00:27:25.400 First of all, there is no religion called the traditional Latin Mass.
00:27:28.980 She's referring to the Mass, like the Mass, you know, like you have a church service.
00:27:34.900 Well, the Catholics have the Mass, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
00:27:38.220 There is a liturgy that has been the Mass of the ages.
00:27:42.180 This is a liturgy that was pretty much totally formed by about the year 600, the year of our Lord,
00:27:48.300 and which has endured up until the present.
00:27:51.920 The traditional Latin Mass is the Mass that has formed virtually all of the saints of history.
00:27:57.580 It is a Mass that was somewhat pushed to the side after, not just after the Second Vatican Council,
00:28:05.120 but specifically after the liturgical reforms that came after the Second Vatican Council.
00:28:08.820 There was a new Mass that was promulgated, the Mass of Pope Paul VI,
00:28:12.500 and it was a little more watered down, let's say.
00:28:17.880 Still the Mass, though.
00:28:19.840 And there have been, the traditional Latin Mass has been practiced really ever since then,
00:28:27.880 and is recognized by the Vatican.
00:28:30.460 This is not some breakaway sect or anything like this.
00:28:33.200 It's referred to as the extraordinary form of the Mass,
00:28:35.480 not just in schismatic groups, but in the Catholic Church.
00:28:39.960 Because this is the Mass of the ages, which Pope Pius, Saint Pius V said,
00:28:44.680 will always be available to you.
00:28:47.740 Okay?
00:28:48.460 So when she attacks the traditional Latin Mass, she is attacking the faith.
00:28:52.400 She's attacking the Mass of the ages, the Mass of virtually all of the saints.
00:28:56.440 And then she even goes further.
00:28:57.900 She says, look, he's very devout, but he practices this thing which is very devout.
00:29:03.680 He practices this thing which is very orthodox.
00:29:06.000 He practices this thing that has typified the church
00:29:08.560 and accepted the perennial teachings of the church.
00:29:10.600 So what's her upshot here?
00:29:13.180 Her upshot is, she says, look, these guys, they pick and choose from the Bible.
00:29:20.100 But they shouldn't pick and choose the stuff that I don't like.
00:29:22.820 They should pick and choose the stuff that I like.
00:29:25.940 She's really confessing that in her version of the religion, she picks and chooses.
00:29:30.540 Who do you think has a better grasp on Christianity?
00:29:34.540 The perennial teaching of the church going back to Jesus Christ, our Lord who instituted it,
00:29:41.060 in an unbroken line that we can document for 2,000 years, or Pope Sarah Haynes?
00:29:49.560 Bishopress Sarah, who, you know, she doesn't like certain verses of the Bible. 1.00
00:29:53.700 She certainly doesn't like liturgy.
00:29:55.220 She just kind of, you know, she kind of gets it, man.
00:29:57.880 She vibes with it and everything.
00:29:59.280 Who do you think has a better grasp of Christianity?
00:30:03.080 Seems pretty clear to me.
00:30:04.520 What she's really saying here is that liberal Protestantism is okay,
00:30:10.760 but all the other flavors of Christianity, certainly Catholicism, those pesky Catholics, 0.99
00:30:15.380 she's got a big problem with them. 0.64
00:30:16.540 But presumably even the Eastern Orthodox, presumably even conservative Protestants,
00:30:22.700 they don't, they are not to be tolerated.
00:30:25.460 Only liberal Protestantism, meaning the kind of Christianity that is entirely based on individual
00:30:32.500 choice and preference with no sense of any other authority, be it magisterial, be it episcopal,
00:30:38.980 no, only, and it's, and specifically, it's the individual authority of Sarah Haynes.
00:30:44.480 So ironically, it seems like she's attacking, I don't know, the Pope,
00:30:48.760 or it seems like she's attacking the magisterium of the Catholic Church,
00:30:51.560 but she's not attacking it in principle.
00:30:53.640 She's just replacing the Pope with herself. 1.00
00:30:56.160 She's making herself the Pope, which is one of the fears of liberal religion, 1.00
00:30:59.960 is that you don't, you don't undercut tradition exactly.
00:31:04.240 You don't, you don't totally abolish tradition in the hierarchy and the bishops and the Pope.
00:31:08.980 You just make yourself a Pope and you, and you rewrite scripture as you want,
00:31:13.140 you rewrite the liturgy as you want, and, and you invent your own gods is really what you do.
00:31:17.780 Now, what's amazing is that Whoopi Goldberg on the panel is the voice of reason.
00:31:23.420 And she actually comes to the defense of Harrison Bucker.
00:31:26.580 So the NFL released a statement that he gave this speech in his personal capacity,
00:31:32.560 and they do not, the NFL does not share his views.
00:31:36.240 So, you know, listen, I like when people say what they need to say.
00:31:42.820 He's at a Catholic college.
00:31:44.600 Yeah.
00:31:44.740 He's a staunch Catholic.
00:31:46.440 These are his beliefs, and he's welcome to them.
00:31:49.500 I don't have to believe him.
00:31:50.840 Right.
00:31:51.140 I don't have to accept them.
00:31:52.600 The ladies that were sitting in that audience do not have to accept them. 0.99
00:31:55.680 The same way we want respect when Colin Kaepernick takes a knee, we want to give respect to people
00:32:03.400 whose ideas are different from ours because the man who says he wants to be president,
00:32:09.140 you know who?
00:32:09.760 Yeah.
00:32:10.040 He says the way to act is to take away people's right to say how they feel.
00:32:17.320 We don't want to be that.
00:32:19.040 We don't want to be those people.
00:32:20.520 So I'm okay with him saying whatever he says.
00:32:23.080 And the women who are sitting there, if they take his advice, good for them, they'll be happy.
00:32:27.500 If they don't, good for them, they'll be happy a different way.
00:32:30.300 That's my habit.
00:32:31.020 Yeah, I mean, she's got the anti-trumpets in there, but generally, Woofie's totally right 1.00
00:32:34.900 here.
00:32:35.080 She goes, yo, guys, hey, hey, Sarah, hey, hey, Pope Sarah, he's a Catholic guy at a Catholic
00:32:42.600 college talking to Catholic students and Catholic parents, and he just expressed Catholicism.
00:32:48.280 The only things he really argued that he's really getting in trouble for here in that
00:32:53.160 speech are he defended Catholicism, he defended Christianity, and he said marriage makes
00:32:59.640 people happy.
00:33:00.720 And for that, all the libs lost their minds.
00:33:03.640 Whoopie being the voice of reason.
00:33:07.920 Kind of crazy, but that's what happened.
00:33:09.920 As she alluded to, though, the NFL is furious at Kaepernick.
00:33:12.680 They've just condemned him.
00:33:15.060 The NFL came out, said, actually, wow, this is crazy.
00:33:20.880 So the NFL comes out, they disavow him.
00:33:23.460 They say, we don't agree with his speech.
00:33:24.880 This is terrible.
00:33:25.960 And so, of course, the NFL is super lib.
00:33:28.600 They're radical leftists.
00:33:30.420 This is why I'm so happy I've never been a football fan.
00:33:32.920 Okay, the only sport I follow is Major League Baseball.
00:33:35.900 They've gone a little bit squishy sometimes, but generally, they're pretty reasonable.
00:33:40.940 Even the city of Kansas City is going after this guy.
00:33:44.320 And they're not just attacking him.
00:33:46.040 They are doxing him.
00:33:47.980 Kansas City tweets out, just a reminder that Harrison Butker lives in, and it's a city,
00:33:52.480 I guess it's public now, City of Lee's Summit.
00:33:54.120 And then, so they dox the guy, the city, the government of Kansas City.
00:33:59.580 Then they come out and they say, we apologies for our previous tweet.
00:34:03.600 It was shared in error.
00:34:05.700 We apologies.
00:34:07.780 So not only is the Kansas City government criminal, it's also illiterate.
00:34:12.300 No surprise there.
00:34:14.100 We apologies.
00:34:15.460 Whoops.
00:34:15.920 But this is what happens.
00:34:17.400 Because liberalism is a jealous God.
00:34:19.280 It will have no other gods before it.
00:34:23.760 And if you dare to believe in Christianity, certainly if you practice Christianity as it 0.98
00:34:32.020 has traditionally been practiced for 2,000 years, if you believe what Christians have 1.00
00:34:35.980 believed for 2,000 years, oh, buddy, not only are we going to condemn you, not only are we
00:34:40.920 going to try to take your job away, not only are we going to try to destroy your reputation,
00:34:44.500 we'll try to kill you too. 0.93
00:34:45.600 We'll dox you, and we'll send a mob to your house to kill you. 1.00
00:34:49.720 We, the government, will do that.
00:34:52.380 That's what happens.
00:34:54.460 Which pretty much proves his whole speech.
00:34:57.940 Because that was the whole speech.
00:34:59.160 To be Christian is to be countercultural. 1.00
00:35:01.580 If everyone in the world loves you, if all the powers and principalities of the world love
00:35:05.800 you, and you're a Christian, you're probably not doing something right. 1.00
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00:36:32.600 What's up, Michael?
00:36:33.420 I am 17 years old.
00:36:35.960 I just finished up my junior year of high school, and obviously, college is coming up.
00:36:42.920 I've always been taught that college is there to protect you for a job, you know?
00:36:48.680 But I'm kind of convinced, by your view, or the traditional view of college, that it's
00:36:54.600 there to educate you, that you go to get educated in the Western tradition of philosophy,
00:36:59.860 theology, whatever it is.
00:37:03.200 So I'll get right to the point.
00:37:05.780 What do you recommend, if you were to make a recommendation, for me to get my degree in,
00:37:12.620 if I was so convinced to go to college for these reasons?
00:37:15.260 I might not go right out of high school.
00:37:16.840 It might be later, and five or ten years down the road.
00:37:19.980 But what kind of courses should I take?
00:37:22.520 What degree should I chase after?
00:37:24.880 Your answer would be greatly appreciated, and thank you for all that you do.
00:37:30.800 Really good question.
00:37:31.620 Glad you came to that conclusion.
00:37:33.500 It depends a little bit about your college.
00:37:36.120 So, or depends on your college, rather.
00:37:39.540 My college was known especially for the history department and the English and humanities departments.
00:37:46.280 And I was always interested in history.
00:37:49.120 And of all those departments, the history department, which had still somewhat gone to the left,
00:37:54.500 was considered to be one of the most normal and not totally eccentric departments at that school.
00:38:00.080 I don't know that it still remains that way.
00:38:02.820 But in any case, I said, okay, I'm going to be a history major.
00:38:05.120 In part because of my own interest and desire, in part because history is a relatively conservative field,
00:38:12.900 and in part because the school was known for that and known for having a relatively normal history department.
00:38:19.660 I had a double major just because I happened to have enough credits and was able to do a thesis in Italian, in Italian literature.
00:38:27.020 So, I picked that up and the Italian literature, you know, the Italian language teachers were great too at Yale.
00:38:35.380 But the Italian department had some really amazing people in it, up to and including the most prominent professor,
00:38:44.240 who was one of the great Dante scholars, and I love Dante.
00:38:46.740 So, I said, okay, I love Dante.
00:38:47.880 I already have the language.
00:38:49.300 I can work on these other trends.
00:38:50.600 Okay, great.
00:38:51.040 I'll do that too.
00:38:52.380 So, it was in part about circumstance and in part about desire.
00:38:55.320 That's what I would do at your school.
00:38:57.460 Let's say you really love, I don't know, English literature, but the humanities department,
00:39:06.780 which is sometimes like a literature department, but they take other things in, is really, really good at your college.
00:39:12.160 And it's a little bit more conservative and normal.
00:39:14.580 Okay, maybe you pick that one.
00:39:16.700 But you follow desire.
00:39:18.720 I mean, this is, to bring up Dante, like this is part of Dante's theory of education.
00:39:27.300 Education coming from the Latin verb ducere, which means to lead.
00:39:30.340 And Dante is led through inferno and through purgatory up into heaven.
00:39:34.160 And it's a process of his education and his conversion.
00:39:37.220 Well, what draws him on, it's not just an abstract kind of reasoning.
00:39:43.860 It's certainly not a calculation to get a job.
00:39:45.740 It's love.
00:39:46.440 It's love.
00:39:47.000 It's desire.
00:39:47.660 So, you want to follow that a little bit too.
00:39:49.560 Okay, next question.
00:39:50.380 Hey, Michael.
00:39:52.540 Pierre Pizak here.
00:39:53.400 I'm a 27-year-old Midwesterner now living in Bethlehem, Connecticut.
00:39:56.340 I studied poli-sci and econ while in university, but ended up dropping out because I was more interested in partying than I was in studying for gen eds.
00:40:02.260 I enlisted in the Navy and volunteered for the submarine service.
00:40:04.820 This is where I learned the value of a hard day's work and the importance of truth and clarity.
00:40:08.320 I finished my contract and now have a good-paying job in IT.
00:40:11.120 While I'm not discontent with a 9-to-5 like some of our lazy leftist friends, I feel the same sort of calling that I felt when I left university.
00:40:16.540 I feel compelled to do my part in retaking the traditional political order and restoring American greatness in any way that I can.
00:40:22.080 Are there any traditional or conservative NGOs, research institutes, or other such entities in the legal world that you would recommend looking into for potential internships or eventual employment for someone in my circumstance?
00:40:31.460 I can't be the only one trying to fight the good fight.
00:40:33.780 Thanks, Michael.
00:40:34.980 Sure, sure.
00:40:35.880 There are a lot.
00:40:36.300 I mean, the first one that comes to my head is America First Legal, which is founded by Stephen Miller.
00:40:41.760 It's a relatively new organization that focuses on, I believe it's nonprofit, and it focuses on conservative, Republican, right-wing lawfare.
00:40:54.620 So that would seem like a pretty good one.
00:40:57.200 There's some really prominent conservative lawyers out there who do all sorts of great work in private practice, but also in politics.
00:41:04.640 I think of like Harmeet Dhillon, for instance, who almost became the head of the RNC.
00:41:08.140 She does a lot of work.
00:41:09.560 She's represented us before and here at The Daily Wire and a lot of prominent conservatives.
00:41:15.860 Trump was just singing her praises the other day.
00:41:17.880 So those groups stand out.
00:41:19.220 There are a lot of others.
00:41:20.200 I don't want to offend the other groups by just naming a few of them and not all of them, but the reason that America First Legal comes to mind is it's just been so in the news lately.
00:41:29.360 But many, many others.
00:41:31.320 So you just have to decide exactly what you want.
00:41:35.320 Do you want to work in nonprofit kind of conservative law?
00:41:39.220 Do you want to defend conservative politicians and operatives, maybe more in private practice?
00:41:45.100 Do you want to work in an administration?
00:41:46.840 I mean, those are different paths, all of which are very important, some of which will just be based on your preference and desire.
00:41:53.900 Good morning, Michael.
00:41:56.420 This is Arun.
00:41:57.320 So a couple of days ago, Vivek Ramaswamy did an interview with Ann Coulter in which she said that although she agrees with all of Vivek's policies, she wouldn't vote for him because he is Indian.
00:42:06.320 Now, I'm sure the entire left and half the right are busy calling her a racist this morning. 0.85
00:42:11.280 However, she actually elaborated on her position a fair bit, and she expressed a concern that immigrants and even the children of immigrants, people like Vivek or myself, might be indoctrinated into certain views that aren't uniquely American.
00:42:26.280 You know, they may not understand our opinions on free speech or freedom of religion or the right to bear arms.
00:42:33.120 And she even said that she would probably vote for Vivek's children.
00:42:38.420 So whatever her position is, it isn't racist.
00:42:41.240 Now, I am curious, do you think there is any legitimacy to Ann's views, specifically to her concern about people who either immigrated here or who are the children of immigrants being handed the reins of power?
00:42:56.460 Yes.
00:42:56.900 Yeah, there is.
00:42:58.020 I'll probably get in trouble for agreeing with Ann, but she's insightful on a lot of things, and she's right about that.
00:43:03.880 And I think you make a great point, Arun.
00:43:05.480 It's not just coming from some, you know, totally irrational racism or bigotry or whatever.
00:43:14.220 She has a point that civic education is something that does not only take place over one generation.
00:43:23.840 Okay?
00:43:24.060 There is a creedal aspect to America, without question.
00:43:28.460 You see it on the Mayflower.
00:43:29.620 You see it in the American Revolution.
00:43:31.000 You see it in subsequent ages.
00:43:34.680 But America is not just an idea.
00:43:36.540 It's a place with habits and with geography and with history and with peoples who have come at different times for different reasons and developed in different ways.
00:43:48.160 And you just kind of get some of that into your bones.
00:43:51.480 Some of that knowledge is not totally conscious and is somewhat inherited and just ingrained through habit.
00:43:59.860 So, if you're fresh off the boat, you're probably not going to have that.
00:44:04.680 Okay?
00:44:05.360 It's kind of like the argument for hereditary monarchy and why hereditary monarchies can often be more stable than tinpot dictatorships, say, in the Banana Republics.
00:44:15.860 Because, like, the Windsors have been bred for generations to just do the stuff that the monarchs are supposed to do.
00:44:25.300 Maybe you love the monarchy.
00:44:26.260 Maybe you hate the monarchy.
00:44:27.040 That's not even the point.
00:44:28.360 They're good at being monarchs.
00:44:30.280 They just know things.
00:44:31.740 There is a kind of institutional generational knowledge that comes from that that you can't just read in a book.
00:44:39.220 This is why the tinpot dictators in Latin America or the Middle East, they don't really last. 0.57
00:44:43.200 They don't tend to institute those long kind of dynasties.
00:44:47.440 Yeah, there is something to that.
00:44:50.740 You got to stew in a culture for a longer period of time, probably, to catch all of the nuances.
00:44:58.760 There's nothing bigoted about observing that.
00:45:01.460 Next question.
00:45:03.180 Hi, Michael.
00:45:03.920 Big fan of the show.
00:45:05.080 I was wondering if you could give me your perspective on something.
00:45:07.340 On X, formerly Twitter, there's a lot of pornographic material.
00:45:13.820 I had sent a tweet over to Elon Musk asking if he will remove all the pornographic material from X.
00:45:25.040 But what is your view on this in terms of a freedom of speech issue?
00:45:32.240 I know that the graphic images are harmful and that children will have easy access to this.
00:45:43.480 So I don't believe that this is something that should be covered in the freedom of speech.
00:45:49.100 But I know the people will argue against it in the form of art, saying that it is similar to the Renaissance paintings and the appreciation of the human form, even if it is taken in a grotesque way.
00:46:06.560 But what is your view on that?
00:46:08.720 Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you.
00:46:10.800 So, great question.
00:46:15.360 Porn is not protected by free speech because porn is obscene.
00:46:19.460 And we can distinguish pornography from art rather easily, actually.
00:46:28.080 You know, to quote, what was it, Justice Potter Stewart, it's hard to define, but you know it when you see it.
00:46:33.800 So the way that we do that now through America's legal system, and it's somewhat unfortunate because I think we should have an even lower threshold for obscenity.
00:46:43.680 I think we ought to be able to regulate obscenity more easily than we do today.
00:46:46.460 But it's called the Miller Test.
00:46:47.740 This comes from 1973.
00:46:50.500 There are three prongs to it.
00:46:52.080 The first one is, would an average person applying contemporary community standards find that this content appeals to the prurient interest?
00:47:03.620 Would this content, is it just, you know, libidinous?
00:47:06.060 Is it just intended to excite lusts?
00:47:09.120 Does the work depict in an offensive way something that is sexual, say?
00:47:15.700 Okay, and then does the work lack serious artistic or scientific merit?
00:47:25.220 Those are the three prongs of the Miller Test.
00:47:27.120 And so it's got, unfortunately, it's got to satisfy all three of those criteria to be deemed obscene.
00:47:32.380 The stuff you're seeing on Twitter right now absolutely does.
00:47:34.720 So yeah, we got to get rid of it.
00:47:36.260 No question about it.
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