Ep. 1516 - Disney Exec Admits On-Camera "We're Not Hiring White Men"
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In this episode of The Michael Knowles Show, host Michael Kinsley talks about the Senate Armed Services Committee's proposal to require women to serve in combat, and a new undercover video from the O'Keefe Media Group reveals that Disney is discriminating against white males.
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Democrats are trying to draft your daughter. They want your daughter to be required to serve
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in the military, in combat even, whether she wants to or not. The Senate Armed Services
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Committee has snuck the provision that would potentially send America's sweet little daughters
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off to be slaughtered on some foreign battlefield into the National Defense Authorization Act.
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Some Republicans are pushing back, but not enough. I want to hear every single elected
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Republican condemn this. Some issues are open to compromise. Tax rates or immigration levels,
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for instance. Some issues are not. Some issues are lines in the sand. The fact that for the past 11
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years we have sent women willingly into battle is a national disgrace. Now, Democrats want to send
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women unwillingly into combat. Any Republican who would even consider voting for this is good
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for nothing politically. The same might be said of any nation that would needlessly send its
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daughters into gunfire. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. Liberal Congress lady Cori Bush claims to have performed miracles and cured
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personnel decisions, James O'Keefe has a new undercover video out. This is from the O'Keefe Media Group.
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He spoke, or one of his reporters spoke, to Michael Giordano, senior vice president and team lead
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at 20th Television, which is part of the Walt Disney Company. And this SVP over there admits
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that Disney regularly discriminates against white guys.
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Certainly, there have been times where, you know, there's no way we're hiring a white male.
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They'd be very careful how they message that to agents.
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According to these videotapes, Disney blatantly discriminates against whites, white men in
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I think I'm sort of like well prepared for it. I'm well positioned for it. But as far as Disney's
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concerned, a white male, that's not who they're looking to promote as a white guy, even Michael
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has his own doubts about the possibility for advancement for himself at Disney. In fact,
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Michael actually got to experience Disney's discrimination against white males firsthand.
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You know, I've been at the company 11 years now, so I have friends in HR and I have friends
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in those divisions. And they're like, look, nobody else is going to tell you this, Mike,
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but they're not considering any white males for this job. They're just not.
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Okay. None of this is really surprising to me. Two things about this are surprising.
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One, James O'Keefe is interviewing a heterosexual man. It seems like usually in these undercover
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stings, it's gay guys who are spilling the beans. I believe just listening to the undercover
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reporter's side of it sounds like that's a woman. So that makes it interesting.
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And then the second thing that makes it interesting is that this Disney employee
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is complaining about it. We all know it's happening. No one is surprised at all that Disney
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and pretty much every other corporation is discriminating against white men. This has
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been the law of the land for decades now. This is the point of affirmative action. The point of
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affirmative action in college admissions and in hiring is to discriminate specifically against white
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men and to give an advantage to non-white men and to allow the non-white men, non-white and non-men to
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pass over otherwise equally or more qualified white men for positions based on the color of their skin or
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their sex. So we know that. Nothing about that is surprising. What is surprising to me, other than the
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fact that it's a straight guy here, is that this straight white man is complaining about it.
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That a guy who would work for a super liberal company like Disney, this is not, I imagine not
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some rock-ribbed right winger, is coming out and saying, you know, actually this is wrong.
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Discriminating against white men is wrong. That could spark an important political awakening because
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Disney is taking this to the extreme. This guy goes, I won't take you through the whole video.
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You can watch James O'Keefe's undercover staying. It's really good. Disney has gone so far that
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apparently when a half black guy went up for a promotion, he didn't get the promotion because
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he didn't look black enough. We wanted to hire somebody in a department a few years ago now
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who was half black but didn't, like, hear half black. And there was a creative executive who was like,
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we're not, like, that's not, that's not what's wrong. Like, they wanted somebody in meetings who
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would appear a certain way and he wasn't going to bring that to the meeting. I mean, it kind of feels
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like where, you know, at some point there's going to be a lawsuit. That's kind of how it feels just
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because of, you know. There should be. The guy is half black. And if you're half black, you're black,
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I thought. Barack Obama's only half black, but he's the first black president. So surely a guy who's
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half black could be the next black illustrator at Disney or whatever the position was. But no,
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because he didn't look black enough. Pretty soon Disney is going to pull out, you know,
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measuring tape to measure the side of the cranium, start doing phrenology examinations on these people.
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No, I'm sorry. That phenotype is a little too caucasoid for our liking over here. Uh-uh. No,
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sir. We've got to measure the width of the nose, the height of the brow ridges. No, I'm so sorry,
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Mr. Applicant. I don't care if you went to Harvard. You're out of here.
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We got, we need someone who's about three shades darker. It's like the, there's a meme from Family
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Guy where a cop holds up a swatch to determine how he's going to punish someone. And the swatch
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shows different shades. And, you know, if you're white, you're not going to get punished. And the
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darker you get, the more likely you are to be punished. It's like that, except the opposite.
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That's how, that's how it goes for hiring. As is often the case with liberal comedy. It makes a
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point, but it gets it exactly wrong. That's how it goes with hiring. If this guy were darker in his
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telling, at least he would have been promoted. And does anyone doubt that? Does anyone of any race,
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of any political persuasion really doubt that? No, we know that that's how, how these companies
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behave because one, we see their DEI policies from within the company. And two, we know what
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affirmative action is. And that's all point of affirmative action. If DEI and affirmative action
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did not give an advantage to people who are otherwise less qualified than the white guy
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candidates, then you wouldn't need DEI and you wouldn't need affirmative action because they would
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just be promoted on, on merit itself. But they're not. So there's this new criterion introduced
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and that's how it works. Of course, not surprising that it's happening. Surprising that this guy is
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starting to complain. If moderate liberal white guys or black guys or white women or Asian women or
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if, but if, if people who are otherwise in the middle or on the left, and especially those who
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are in the group that's actually being wronged here, just came out and said, now we're not going to do
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this anymore. If just the white guys who are being told you're, you're going to be disadvantaged in
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college admissions and hiring. If just those white guys came out and said, nah, no, thanks. We want to
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be treated fairly. That would, that would represent a fundamental shift in American politics. The reason
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that it hasn't happened already, the reason why the libs think they can get away with punishing
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white guys for being white guys is because white people have virtually no racial identity.
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No racial consciousness. Pew Research did a survey on this some years ago. Every racial group has a
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greater than 50% racial consciousness other than white people. Meaning greater than 50% of, of people
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when asked, is your race somewhat or very important to you? We'll say yes, except for white people.
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For Hispanics and Asians, it's north of 50%. For black people, it's north of 70%. For white people,
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it's 15%. So that, that's how they get away with it. You would never get away with it in this day and
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age against an Asian, Hispanic, or black person. It's only white people. So the only way that that's
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going to change is if the white guy is like this Disney employee come out and say, hey, I'm, I'm a
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white guy and you're treating me unfairly because I'm a white guy and I'm not going to take it anymore.
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I'm going to vote for candidates who aren't going to treat me unfairly because I'm a white guy.
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And I'm going to bring lawsuits against companies that treat me unfairly because I'm a white guy.
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And I'm going to, I'm going to favor a politics that says you need to treat me fairly. That's the
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only way it changes. But if that were to change, don't forget, you know, white people are still
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the majority of, of Americans. Despite even all the mass migration, it's still true. That would
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freedomforschool.com. That is freedomforschool.com. Speaking of white guys not getting jobs,
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RFK Jr. is not going to be at the CNN presidential debate happening, I think, next week. Why not?
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Because, officially, because Kennedy didn't meet the criteria to appear unofficially, because he was
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never going to appear, because the race is between Trump and Biden. So it was never going to happen.
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The rules were always going to be such that RFK Jr. wasn't going to make it.
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Trump doesn't seem to love RFK Jr., but Biden really seems to hate RFK Jr., and the Democrats
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really seem to hate RFK Jr. And the reason for that is RFK Jr. stands to pull significantly more
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votes from Joe Biden than he would from Donald Trump. RFK Jr. is a bigger threat to Joe Biden
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than he is to Donald Trump. And the liberals control the political establishment, and they just
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weren't going to let this guy appear. But the official reasons are, he doesn't have 15% in
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four national polls that had been approved by CNN. He only earned that in three of the accepted polls.
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Now, who knows? Maybe he earns it in a poll that's not accepted by CNN. Doesn't matter.
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Just on that, he would not appear. And he's not on a sufficient number of state ballots
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to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold that would give him the White House. So it'd be nice
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if RFK Jr. could appear on those ballots, from my view, because I think he takes more votes from
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Biden. But he hasn't. So far, he's only got ballot access in six states, according to the New York
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Times. That means he could only possibly win 89 electoral college votes. It means he couldn't
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be president, even if he won everything. Yeah, of course. Of course. The takeaway for Republicans
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here, though, is that the liberals really, really don't want RFK Jr. to be a figure in this race.
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They fear that he will be a Ross Perot-like figure from 1992. Ross Perot, a kind of right-wing guy,
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comes out, runs for the presidency, and spoils it for George H.W. Bush. Or even fast forward
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to the 2000 election, speaking of George W. Bush, Ralph Nader, who was relatively a blip on the
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radar, but he was the Green Party candidate, he pulled just enough votes from Al Gore to toss the
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election to George Bush. So I think Kennedy could do that, and it would benefit Trump. I think
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Republicans should quietly boost RFK Jr. I think at the very least, Republicans should decry the
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unfairness that RFK Jr. has not been given ballot access, especially because a lot of the ballot
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access is being gatekept by Democrat secretaries of state who recognize the threat that he poses
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to their party and to Joe Biden, and they don't want to let him on. And because the debate is being
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gatekept by CNN, it's not even by the Commission on Presidential Debates anymore, because Biden doesn't
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want to work with them, because the Commission on Presidential Debates won't give him the commercial
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breaks that he needs to catch his breath, and will bring people into the audience, and the people
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will probably applaud for Trump and boo Joe Biden. So it's CNN. Instead, CNN doesn't want this guy
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there because they also feel that RFK is going to spoil the race. Republicans should be at the very
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least quietly decrying the unfairness, boosting RFK Jr. RFK Jr., he doesn't have to take away that
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many votes to throw the election to Donald Trump. And much weaker candidates with far less cachet in
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their respective parties or their respective coalitions have done a lot worse. Let's keep
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boosting that RFK. We're not going to get him to the debate, but let's boost him enough
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to drive Biden crazy. The Democrats have already shown us their hand. That is what they are afraid
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of. Speaking of not appearing in multiple states, really, really great news. Pornhub, the biggest
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porn company in the world, has just suspended service in five more states. They have suspended
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service in Kentucky, Indiana, Idaho, Kansas, and Nebraska. This is really, really great news.
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But why are they suspending the service? They are suspending the service because these five states
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are said to require age verification. They're not going to ban porn. Probably they should ban porn,
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but they're not going to do that. They're taking a very modest measure to say, okay, if you want to
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look at depraved porn and you want to access websites that have regularly been caught engaged in
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extraordinarily degrading and downright illegal activity, you know, videos of underage girls that
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then the websites, you know, they try to take down or whatever, and they're mired in legal battles over
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that. But really, really gross, disreputable stuff. An adult can look at that, say the states.
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But they have to be adults. You got to show us that you're not a little kid.
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And Pornhub says, we're not doing business. Tells you everything you need to know about Pornhub.
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The fact that Pornhub would rather stop doing business altogether than take reasonable measures
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to prevent little kids from looking at their disgusting pornography is very, very telling.
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Let's just leave it at that. I'll be cautious in my language because I know Pornhub is very litigious
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because they're very, very depraved people in a very depraved industry.
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But let's just leave, let's just consider that fact. A company would rather stop doing business
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altogether than take simple measurements to make sure little kids aren't consuming their dangerous
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product. That tells you pretty much all you need to know about their business model. It tells you
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pretty much all you need to know about how politicians ought to think about this company.
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Now, let's be as charitable as we can to the pornographers. Maybe the pornographer's argument is,
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no, it's not. We don't want kids looking at this stuff, but we respect the privacy of our adult
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consumers. And we don't want to force adults to upload proof that they're over 18 or 21 or whatever.
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I don't know. I guess it's 18 for the website. We don't want to collect that information
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on our adult users. Okay, that raises another question.
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Even if this is about the privacy of adults, why are adults so ashamed to consume your product?
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Why is that? I consume products that are age-restricted. I consume alcohol. I consume tobacco.
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In fact, I have a tobacco company called Mayflower Cigars. And I have to show my ID when I purchase
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those products. Even when I purchase my own cigar, I have to show the ID on the website.
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I'm not ashamed of that. I'm not ashamed of smoking cigars. I'm not ashamed of having a drink
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every now and again. So I show my ID, no problem. I certainly would be ashamed to show my ID to a
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pornography website because pornography is a very shameful activity. And the fact that the very
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best argument Pornhub can make, I'm giving them every benefit of the doubt, which I shouldn't.
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The very best argument they can make is, well, we can't require people to show their IDs.
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Our product is disgusting and degenerate and a great shame and humiliation to all of the users.
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That's not a great argument. Right. You should probably close up shop,
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not just in those five states, but period, because what you're giving people is filthy
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and disgusting and it degrades them and it's poison for the brain and for the soul.
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Yeah. And Pornhub's implicitly admitting it at best. And at worst, what they're implicitly admitting
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tells you something really, really dark about their business model. Now, speaking of getting
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some wins against the pornography industry, Senator Ted Cruz, my man, TC, has just introduced a bill to
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outlaw revenge and deepfake pornography. The bill is called, and this is so DC. I love it. This is so
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Senate, so Congress. It's the tools to address known exploitation by immobilizing technological
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deepfakes on websites and networks act. If you didn't catch that, that comes out to the take it down
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act. Really, Washington loves a good acronym. And because Senator Ted Cruz is one of the most
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intelligent people ever to work and live in Washington, DC, he comes up with a really good
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acronym, but that's the great, the take it down act. What would it do? It would criminalize
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the publication of non-consensual intimate imagery, including AI imagery, deepfake porn. So, you know,
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as I predicted years ago, I said, the real problem isn't that Scarlett Johansson is going to have
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computers manipulate her image and make it look like she's in porn. The real problem is the girl
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in your eighth grade math class is going to have that done to her. That's really shocking, and that's
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going to spread like a cancer, not just among public figures, but among private figures.
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This is really good. There are new procedures that would be put in place if this bill is passed
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to require the big platforms to take this content down pretty much immediately. They also have to
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remove copies of the images. Really good stuff. This should have been done 30 years ago, but the
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politicians should have anticipated this. And to some degree, they did. Back in the 90s, there was a
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bill passed called the Communications Decency Act, which actually includes Section 230, which is what
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gives social media companies the ability to skirt different kinds of liability laws. And
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that provision has come under fire a lot from conservatives who feel that big tech is censoring
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us in recent years. But the Communications Decency Act initially was aimed at decency. It was an
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anti-obscenity act. Same with the Child Online Protection Act, both of which were gutted by liberal
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courts. We could have solved this problem 30 years ago. We didn't. So now we got to deal with it today,
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2024. This is a no-brainer. Anyone who votes against this is real suspect, real, real suspect.
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Any senator who's voting to support deepfake pornography, check their hard drive.
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Tuvu.com slash Knowles. And follow me over there. My favorite comment yesterday is from Ryan Weiss,
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1721. It says, breaking news, Zinn has been banned in the U.S. In an unrelated note,
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readiness in the Department of Defense has dropped 85%. So true. I mentioned that the main people who take
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Zinn are fratty white guys, you know, like Patagonia wearing yuppies. Well, a lot of fratty
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white guys also represented in the military and other servicemen that I know, not just the white
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guys, but a broad array of them. They like popping the six milli lip pillies, okay? There are very few
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indulgences that our men and women in uniform get to engage in, and they're going to take away that
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Zinn. Okay, I hope China and Russia don't start acting up anytime soon. That's not going to look
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great. Speaking of men and women, NPR. National Public Radio has a real dumb piece out on the
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future of marriage. But NPR is such a perfect representation of the liberal establishment
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that it's worth reading what they have to say because it shows you what our liberal technocratic
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overlords are thinking. And they ask a question, what will marriage look like in the future?
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I have a simple answer to that. Marriage will look in the future like it really looks in the
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present, like it looked in the past, like it has always looked because it's a natural institution
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and raised in Christianity to the level of a sacrament, and it can't be changed. What God has
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joined, no man can separate. That's my view of it. But the libs think that everything socially
00:25:02.500
constructed man, because the libs think that man is God. Not that we're made in the image and likeness
00:25:06.740
of God, but that we've made God in our own image. Ultimately, we are gods, and we can do whatever
00:25:10.380
we want, and we can redefine words, and we can redefine institutions. We can redefine our own
00:25:14.440
biology and our own nature. We can transcend the species homo sapiens, become homo deus. That's
00:25:18.980
what they say in almost exactly those words. So of course they think they can redefine marriage.
00:25:23.600
They did it at the level of the Supreme Court nine years ago. What will it look like in the future?
00:25:29.840
Three examples from NPR. Jennifer Coca, 37, polyamorous woman with a primary partner of seven years in
00:25:36.560
Richmond, Virginia. I definitely dreamt of getting married a lot when I was a kid, but as I got older,
00:25:40.840
I realized marriage is basically just a piece of paper. Let's pause on the first of three examples
00:25:46.600
they use. A marriage is not a piece of paper. A piece of paper is one thing that can represent
00:25:55.900
marriage, but it's not synonymous with marriage. No married couple holds up the marriage license or the
00:26:02.980
marriage certificate and says, there's my marriage. That is synonymous with my marriage.
00:26:07.500
No, the error that this woman is making, the error that the liberals are making, or even the decadent
00:26:13.360
people who say, man, I don't need to get married. My concubine and I, we're great, man. I don't need
00:26:19.960
some piece of paper to tell me about my relationship. No, you don't need a piece of paper to tell you
00:26:24.240
what your relationship is or to form your relationship, but the piece of paper does represent
00:26:29.340
that relationship. The error they're making is not even so much about marriage as it is about
00:26:33.940
symbols. The piece of paper symbolizes, signifies, represents the marriage. So when you don't have
00:26:44.960
something that can symbolize the marriage, it might be because there's nothing to symbolize.
00:26:50.400
Maybe I'm saying this in an inarticulate way. The only reason not to sign the paper,
00:26:57.260
the only reason not to represent the marriage is because there's nothing there to represent.
00:27:06.520
That's why you would be afraid of signifying something is if there's nothing to signify or
00:27:10.980
if the representation of it would be inaccurate and would not reflect the reality of that thing.
00:27:15.880
They just don't understand symbols, which is not surprising because as words cease to mean anything,
00:27:22.700
as we deny that marriage would refer to a real thing, we're denying the link between a symbol and
00:27:30.080
the symbolized. And so then we all just start babbling, basically. Then words totally lose
00:27:35.560
their meaning because you can say the word woman and I can say the word woman. Well, you and I
00:27:39.120
probably agree, but some lib can say the word woman and I can say the word woman and we could be
00:27:43.900
talking about totally different things. The libs would have severed the relationship between
00:27:47.740
symbol and symbolized. And then we can't talk to each other at all. Then we lose the distinguishing
00:27:52.720
human feature, which is speech, which represents and expresses our rational faculties. Next one,
00:27:59.020
Doyle Tate, single dad in Jacksonville, Florida. I would love to be married one day. I decided I
00:28:05.280
wasn't going to wait for a man who may never come. Wait, hold on. Doyle is a single dad,
00:28:11.360
but he's waiting for a man. That's kind of weird because a man can't marry another man. That doesn't
00:28:17.460
make any sense. And if you want to have kids, a man certainly can't marry another man because that
00:28:22.260
doesn't make kids. So wait, this guy is a single homosexual who has a kid. How does he have a kid?
00:28:28.920
Well, he says, so I started the process of surrogacy when I was around 30. Aphrodite Rose is now four
00:28:33.480
and a half months. So it's been wonderful. So a homosexual man who wants to be in a homosexual
00:28:41.700
relationship and seems to be still pursuing that also wants to have a kid. So he purchased a girl.
00:28:47.200
He purchased the raw materials to make a human being. And he went to the baby store and bought
00:28:53.920
the raw materials and then intentionally deprived a child of her mother, a little girl deprived her
00:29:00.200
of her mother, really evil stuff. And he's still pursuing all sorts of depraved activities with men.
00:29:06.120
So he's never even going to give this girl a stepmother, but at least he gets to feel a little
00:29:10.440
bit better about his disordered affections and desires. Not good, but put all of that aside for a
00:29:16.200
second. How does this represent the future of marriage? He's a single person. He's single and
00:29:24.700
he's not even looking for the kind of person who could create a marriage with him, but he doesn't
00:29:30.920
even have a dude to have a fake marriage. He's just single. And so NPR is now saying, look, marriage
00:29:37.520
can be a thing in which a couple explicitly says we are not married because they won't sign a marriage
00:29:45.280
certificate. Or marriage can be a thing where it's just one person and maybe you go buy a child,
00:29:52.980
but there's no partner. There's no spouse. Marriage can be that. And what's the final thing marriage can
00:29:58.120
be? This is Eravind Bodhupali, married man in Baltimore. My love life with my partner May,
00:30:06.280
it looks like a true partnership. Okay, partner. So unless they have an accounting firm together and
00:30:11.700
unless May is transgender or something, this one sounds like an actual marriage. This is a man and
00:30:17.100
a woman and they say they're married. Said we're an interracial marriage, but I don't think that it's
00:30:22.260
ever posed an issue for us in our respective communities. NPR asks, what do changing romantic
00:30:28.380
norms mean for the future of marriage? Hold on. Three examples they give. One of those things is
00:30:34.240
not like the other. One, we're two people. I've got a concubine. We're not married. This is the future
00:30:41.960
of marriage. Number two guy, I'm a single homosexual. I'm not married. I can't even, I'm not even going to
00:30:48.680
try to be married. That's the new kind of marriage. Okay. Third one, we're an interracial couple and
00:30:55.180
it's never been a problem at all and we are married. That's the future of marriage. Okay,
00:30:59.220
that could be the future of marriage, but that's also the present of marriage and that's also the
00:31:02.260
past of marriage. What the libs are trying to do is they're trying to blur the distinction between
00:31:05.920
not marriage and marriage by comparing bizarro homosexual relations and concubinage with interracial
00:31:12.860
marriage, which has always existed. Mass migration has not always existed. The
00:31:18.460
intermingling of different peoples has at more, at various times been more and less pronounced,
00:31:23.580
so interracial marriage would be more or less likely, but it's existed forever for all of human
00:31:28.020
history. It in no way contradicts the definition of marriage. The first two fundamentally contradict
00:31:34.040
the definition of marriage because the first one says outright, we are not married. And the second
00:31:38.160
one only involves one adult who doesn't even like women. This is how they blur it. Well, it's kind
00:31:46.160
of, when you really think about it, gay marriage or individual marriage, or I don't know, a ritual of
00:31:51.300
a woman marrying herself, which is a real thing that's been happening in recent years. That's kind
00:31:55.460
of like interracial marriage. No, it's not. It's categorically different. It is fundamentally
00:31:59.660
different, different in kind, but they have to blur it because they know that their view of the future
00:32:03.780
of marriage is crazy. And when social conservatives warned 10, 20, 30 years ago that what the libs were
00:32:09.580
really after is not the expansion of marriage, but the abolition of marriage, this is what they
00:32:14.180
were talking about. And they were 100% right. Speaking of weird hippie stuff, I have to get to
00:32:20.000
the story before we get to the mailbag. Congress lady Cori Bush, she's one of the more eccentric of
00:32:27.020
the new liberal members of Congress. She apparently claimed in her book that she came out with a couple
00:32:33.800
years ago that she has performed a miracle. She healed a woman with tumors by laying hands on her
00:32:41.440
and praying over her. And she recounted this story, as far as I can tell, in only one interview,
00:32:47.140
and that was with Margaret Hoover on PBS. You're a pastor. Yes. You write about healing through faith.
00:32:54.520
At one point, you came across a woman with, quote, several visible tumors on her torso.
00:33:00.000
Tell me what happened. So at that time, I, along with a group of friends, we would go out on the street
00:33:11.220
and just meet with people and pray with people and offer them food. And this lady came to us,
00:33:18.200
and she had these tumors. I mean, she wanted us to, like, feel them. And I just remember I put my hand
00:33:24.340
on her, and my hand just began to move. And the lumps that were there were no longer there. And she
00:33:33.860
was so happy, and she, like, went on about her day. And I never saw her again.
00:33:41.480
I do. I do. Spiritual healing is, it's a part of what you believe, you know? And the medical
00:33:52.800
healing is, it's a similar thing, because I still, I'm going to believe that this treatment
00:33:59.200
that this doctor is giving me is going to help me in my situation.
00:34:03.360
Okay. I'm a little skeptical of Cori Bush's powers. I'm a little skeptical, because right off
00:34:07.200
the top, Margaret Hoover says, you're a pastor. She goes, yes, I am. And that's not possible.
00:34:12.100
Because pastors are men and members of the clergy, and they receive the sacrament of holy orders.
00:34:17.960
And anyway, so I think probably her religious views are a little jumbled up. But that's it.
00:34:24.440
That's the only criticism I want to make here, because I can't believe I'm agreeing with Cori
00:34:30.800
Bush, or I'm getting, in principle, what she's saying is possible. Yeah, God can't, does perform
00:34:40.300
miracles. And sometimes people are the occasions of those miracles. And they are always the observers
00:34:48.680
and recipients of those miracles, at least as far as we know. So that can happen. And what's amazing
00:34:55.340
is Cori Bush goes even further. And she says, I'm not doubting medical science, like physical,
00:34:59.680
empirical science. I'm just saying that there is a spiritual aspect to reality as well,
00:35:05.440
on top of the physical. And she's right. It's a little presumptuous of Cori Bush, one,
00:35:12.440
to call herself a pastor, and two, to say she's performed these miracles. And so plenty of reason
00:35:16.180
to be skeptical of her accounts. But the principle that she's articulating, it pains me somewhat to
00:35:24.260
have to say this. But Cori Bush is actually expressing an insightful view here. You know,
00:35:32.140
Cori Bush is, she's right, there is spiritual reality. God does perform miracles. People are the
00:35:38.000
conduits and recipients of those miracles. And yeah, God in eternity does act through contingent
00:35:46.040
historical time and space. And yeah, she's got a point. Cori Bush has a point. That's it. That's
00:35:55.040
probably the last time you're ever going to hear me say that. But Cori Bush has a point.
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It's hard to feel like I'm the only one who sees these things.
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If we can't wrap our arms around the most vulnerable, then what do we have?
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The best way to do that is by seeing Sound of Hope in theaters.
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Finally, finally, we've arrived at my favorite time of the week when I get to hear from your
00:40:02.760
I was just talking to a black man, which I guess you guys would call African Canadian.
00:40:09.460
And he brought up some points that made the whole conversation way more woke than it already
00:40:14.520
He mentioned that white people before the transatlantic slave trade used to use the hard R-N-word
00:40:20.300
as insults between each other to insult their stupidity.
00:40:23.380
It then morphed into the racial epitaph towards black people that we all know and love, and
00:40:28.880
then morphed into the colloquialism for the word fella, as you mentioned.
00:40:33.760
So he said, it's more racist to use the soft uh, because you're appropriating African American
00:40:41.920
So I guess my question is, what's worse, to be inherently racist or to be perceived as
00:40:48.880
Yeah, I think your friend is just mistaken about his etymology.
00:40:55.220
The etymology of the N-word is a little bit blurry.
00:41:00.020
Sometimes people think it relates to the word niggardly, like cheap.
00:41:06.360
The earliest appearance of something like the N-word appears before the transatlantic slave
00:41:12.860
trade, and it just referred to black people, you know, like Negro or Niger, or, you know,
00:41:23.780
I have no idea what your friend is talking about, that it was used as an insult to mean
00:41:30.200
I've never seen that anywhere or heard of that, and I think it's pretty clearly mistaken.
00:41:35.120
So I think your buddy's got to stop appropriating actual etymology for his own purposes and
00:41:42.840
And no, I think, furthermore, you know, it obviously can be an ugly word, and it can be
00:41:50.980
But the fact that that is the word that we treat with the same taboo that the ancient
00:41:55.620
Israelites treated the tetragrammaton tells you a lot about the distorted priorities of
00:42:10.060
One, I am turning 21 on Saturday, and I'm planning to take my fiancé and I to a local bar so
00:42:17.080
I've waited until this point to have one, so what's your suggestion for what I should
00:42:22.600
What do you think Gen Z will be like as the oldest generation when the time comes?
00:42:26.680
Respect for elders in my generation has turned into a general mockery and disdain for the
00:42:30.520
senior population, so I'm wondering how we, Gen Z, will act when it is our
00:42:39.020
I'm tempted to say Johnny Black because it's inexpensive enough that a 21-year-old can pay
00:42:47.620
for it, but still good enough that it's worth having for your first drink.
00:42:51.680
You've been waiting all this time for your first drink.
00:42:53.100
But if you've really never had a sip of alcohol before, like no wine at Christmas dinner or anything
00:42:59.980
like that, you actually might want to start with something a little softer.
00:43:02.900
You might want to start with a beer or a glass of wine.
00:43:06.320
I'm more of a wine man myself, being of Italian extraction.
00:43:11.760
I don't know what bar you're going to, but you could order yourself a glass of either
00:43:14.960
kind of a nice wine, maybe like an Amarone or something, or I don't know.
00:43:24.580
You want to just jump into the deep end, go for the Johnny Black man.
00:43:30.960
I wasn't even, Ben, were you, I was so focused on the booze.
00:43:39.220
Well, unfortunately you're not getting an answer to the second part of your question.
00:43:41.940
If I remember it or any of the producers remember it, I'll try to come back to it.
00:43:46.640
Last week on your show, you talked about the gayification of Star Wars.
00:43:51.200
And this really got me thinking about the conservative mindset when it comes to entertainment more broadly.
00:43:56.480
You know, conservatives throughout my lifetime have taken either one or two stances on entertainment more broadly.
00:44:01.880
It's that either one, it's a frivolous, childish thing that really shouldn't be engaged with,
00:44:06.300
or either it's been the pearl-clutching church ladies who have said that
00:44:09.900
Dungeons and Dragons and Harry Potter are works of the devil.
00:44:12.780
So, what can conservatives do to really reclaim the entertainment industry?
00:44:21.980
My friend Spencer Clavin had great thoughts on this the other day.
00:44:24.980
He and I were talking about it, and he published a column about it at The American Mind,
00:44:27.800
which is the way for conservatives to reclaim the entertainment industry or the popular culture
00:44:36.980
The problem is not even that conservatives don't know how to do the nuts and bolts of making novels
00:44:47.960
They could use a little work in that area, but that's not even so much a problem.
00:44:52.040
The problem is conservatives don't appreciate that stuff.
00:45:00.280
So, you can't, I don't mean to blame the audience here, you know, or the lack thereof
00:45:06.780
for an audience for conservative fiction content, but it just doesn't seem to be there.
00:45:11.660
It seems to be the sort of thing that conservatives say they want.
00:45:14.260
We want conservative movies, and we want conservative TV shows, and we want conservative comic books,
00:45:19.020
and we want conservative comic con, and we want whatever.
00:45:21.760
But I don't really see a lot of evidence that that's true.
00:45:25.520
It's the sort of thing I think they want to want, but I don't know that they really want it.
00:45:29.900
Obviously, look, we've come out with some of this content, and people watch it, you know,
00:45:37.200
But I think we're just talking about an order of scale here.
00:45:41.040
When you think about the audience that the liberal media reach, the liberal entertainment media reach,
00:45:47.340
it's just orders of magnitude larger than the audience that even the very best conservative
00:45:59.260
And it's because conservatives say stuff like, you shouldn't study humanities in school.
00:46:04.960
You should study something that's going to make you money, like engineering or welding or something.
00:46:09.140
Yeah, engineering and welding are great, but you should also read Virgil and Plato,
00:46:13.100
and you should also read the Russian novelists, and you should also read poetry every now and again.
00:46:18.380
And you should also go look at paintings and know even anything about painting and art.
00:46:27.240
Listen to music that is beautiful and ornate and challenging, and you've got to do that stuff too.
00:46:36.000
And even if you think it's a little frou-frou or whatever, the reason you have to do that too is because
00:46:40.100
otherwise you will cede the popular culture to the libs.
00:46:42.680
And then, inasmuch as we can say politics is downstream of culture, the libs are going to dominate politics.
00:46:48.200
That's why, to use Spencer's headline, it's a matter of taste.
00:46:54.120
I recently joined the Navy, and I'm leaving for basic training here in the coming days.
00:46:58.720
I'm a little nervous, but ready to go, and I would like to ask for any kind of advice you could give me,
00:47:08.500
whether it be just life in general or religion or really just really anything.
00:47:17.000
Any advice you give me is greatly appreciated, and if it helps, I'm a Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, Lutheran,
00:47:40.620
My grandfather, obviously a career man, was the commanding officer on a number of ships,
00:47:49.540
And so he was deployed for long periods of time, and one time he bought a banjo.
00:47:57.120
And I have that banjo now, and I play it for my kids, and it's a great little family heirloom.
00:48:01.400
And it was a great, edifying, kind of wholesome recreation to have when he was lonely out there at sea.
00:48:12.780
Then, after that, you mentioned religion a couple of times there at least.
00:48:23.280
I don't know exactly how Lutherans or your particular flavor of Lutheran feels about the rosary,
00:48:31.780
So I sometimes would wait until nighttime to pray it.
00:48:38.060
And then I'd also get too tired, and I'd often fail to finish it.
00:48:41.940
So say your prayers in the morning, whatever those prayers may be.
00:48:45.560
And, you know, recognize that you're in a great position because even with all the craziness going on in the Department of Defense,
00:48:54.020
the Pentagon, the top brass, you know, General Milley with his purple hair screaming about white rage or whatever,
00:48:59.560
even with all of that, you are doing something that is noble, that is missional, that is really sturdy.
00:49:05.560
You know, serving your country to protect the homeland and your friends and family and fellow Americans, that's a good thing.
00:49:13.060
And so that missional aspect should really drive you.
00:49:16.680
And so then the only, yeah, the only other thing I'd say is fair wind and following seas, man.
00:49:33.540
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