The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 152 - Buh-Bye-Atollah! Trump Scraps Iran Deal, Obama Legacy

00:00:00.000 The Iran deal is over.

00:00:03.160 Bye-bye Atola, bye-bye Atola.

00:00:07.360 I cannot take any more winning.

00:00:10.160 Cannot take it at all.

00:00:11.340 President Trump announced today that the United States is withdrawing from the Iranian nuclear deal,

00:00:16.540 torching the sole foreign policy achievement of Barack Obama

00:00:20.000 and relegating Mr. Obama's entire legacy to the dustbin of history.

00:00:24.960 Oh, oh, oh, that is so...

00:00:30.000 Mmm, oh, those are salty, those are good, those taste just...

00:00:33.800 Is that a hint of...

00:00:36.740 Oh, that would be John Kerry.

00:00:38.080 That's a taste of John Kerry's tears.

00:00:39.940 We will analyze this excellent move.

00:00:42.520 Then, more good news out of the federal government.

00:00:44.800 Shockingly, showing up on time and under budget.

00:00:47.920 Finally, anti-Pope Rihanna shows up in a bedazzled cassock and mitre to last night's Met Gala,

00:00:54.500 Heavenly Bodies, Fashion, and the Catholic Imagination.

00:00:57.500 We will discuss the danger this poses to the culture, but not the danger that Iran poses, 1.00

00:01:02.900 because we scrapped the nuclear deal.

00:01:04.560 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:48.080 The Iran deal is over.

00:03:50.460 Here is President Trump's announcement.

00:03:53.640 My fellow Americans, today I want to update the world on our efforts to prevent Iran from 1.00

00:04:01.760 acquiring a nuclear weapon.

00:04:04.460 The Iranian regime is the leading state sponsor of terror.

00:04:09.520 It exports dangerous missiles, fuels conflicts across the Middle East, and supports terrorist 1.00

00:04:17.220 proxies and militias, such as Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, and Al-Qaeda.

00:04:26.300 Over the years, Iran and its proxies have bombed American embassies and military installations,

00:04:34.820 murdered hundreds of American service members, and kidnapped, imprisoned, and tortured American

00:04:42.420 citizens.

00:04:43.020 The Iranian regime has funded its long reign of chaos and terror by plundering the wealth 1.00

00:04:51.020 of its own people.

00:04:53.300 He goes on.

00:04:54.500 We'll get to more of that later.

00:04:56.520 But I know John Kerry, he's trying so hard.

00:04:59.020 He just wants to weigh in.

00:05:00.100 He's been calling the Iranians.

00:05:01.680 He's been calling his former co-workers and allies abroad.

00:05:06.060 Okay, that's fine.

00:05:07.140 Former Secretary of State John Kerry, what is your comment on this deal?

00:05:10.280 Can you kiss a pretty girl, Peppy boy, Peppy boy? 0.81

00:05:17.640 Can you kiss a pretty girl, Jarmy Peppy? 0.99

00:05:20.880 Oh, that's silly. 0.95

00:05:23.580 I am the broken heart of love. 0.84

00:05:26.660 I am the disillusioned.

00:05:29.020 I am wished to enlist in the foreign legions so I may forget.

00:05:33.860 Take me.

00:05:34.560 It is so, so good.

00:05:45.480 I'm going to need 10 more of these today.

00:05:47.660 I need 10 more Leftist Tears Tumblers, Colton, please.

00:05:50.940 So, Drew is out today.

00:05:52.800 Ben's show was early before this news broke.

00:05:55.000 Drew is out.

00:05:55.880 I'm sure he's very upset.

00:05:56.920 In his honor, I think we have to play the Klavan happiness montage in Drew's absence.

00:06:02.700 We're going to win so much.

00:06:04.600 We're going to win at every level.

00:06:06.800 Hallelujah.

00:06:08.920 Hallelujah.

00:06:09.820 We're going to win economically.

00:06:11.400 We're going to win with the economy.

00:06:13.180 We're going to win with military. 0.97

00:06:14.780 We're going to win with healthcare and for our veterans.

00:06:17.300 We're going to win with every single facet.

00:06:19.640 Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-yay.

00:06:24.500 My, oh, my, what a wonderful day.

00:06:28.220 We're going to win so much, you may even get tired of winning.

00:06:31.720 Yay! 0.99

00:06:33.660 You say, please, please, it's too much winning.

00:06:37.500 We can't take it anymore.

00:06:39.000 I feel pretty, oh, so pretty. 0.87

00:06:41.840 I feel pretty and witty and gay.

00:06:44.740 We have to keep winning.

00:06:46.140 We have to win more.

00:06:47.420 We're going to win more.

00:06:49.640 We have to win more.

00:06:54.160 We have to win more.

00:06:58.960 Yay! 0.99

00:07:01.720 That's for you, Drew.

00:07:03.020 Drew is on vacation.

00:07:04.520 It's a clavin-less week, but it turned out to be a pretty good clavin-less week.

00:07:08.560 So, in your absence.

00:07:09.680 You know, I never listen to Pod Save America because I value the cognitive faculties that I have.

00:07:15.920 But today, I'm probably going to have to make an exception

00:07:18.680 because it's all those old Obama pod bros.

00:07:21.460 It's all the, like, 16-year-olds that used to work in the Obama White House and destroyed our country.

00:07:25.680 They're the ones who do Pod Save America.

00:07:27.940 And, oh, man, I'm going to just bring my tumblers to the iPod today and just pour them right into.

00:07:34.520 I'm going to have to, obviously, bring in a MAGA hat for Ben tomorrow.

00:07:38.220 I haven't broken that one out for him in a while, but going to have to bring it in.

00:07:41.300 Maybe I'll just buy him his own.

00:07:42.880 I'll just pass him out to everyone here at the Daily Wire.

00:07:45.360 This is so, so good.

00:07:46.860 I might sprout a John Bolton mustache just to celebrate.

00:07:51.300 I might will it in just all the covfefe forces in me to pop out a John Bolton mustache.

00:07:56.100 The Iran deal was terrible.

00:07:59.320 It was terrible.

00:08:00.040 Don't believe what the lefties tell you on Twitter today.

00:08:02.300 It was terrible practically, and it was terrible symbolically.

00:08:05.560 It was terrible practically because it paved the way for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. 0.96

00:08:10.060 And it was just so weak.

00:08:11.660 We just gave them a bunch of money.

00:08:13.360 That's basically what the deal did.

00:08:14.360 I'll explain the intricacies of the deal in a little bit.

00:08:17.340 It was also terrible symbolically because it was the United States just bending over to Iran

00:08:22.580 after we said for years and years, you're not going to get a bomb.

00:08:25.640 You can't do this.

00:08:26.360 Don't do this.

00:08:27.160 We'll have a red line.

00:08:28.140 Don't, wah, wah, wah.

00:08:29.340 And then we just bent over and gave them all this money and bowed down.

00:08:32.460 So, oh, yes, here, take whatever you want.

00:08:34.220 It's okay.

00:08:34.980 Just don't build a bomb for the next 15 minutes, and then you can build a bomb.

00:08:38.840 That's not what we get now.

00:08:39.960 What Donald Trump said today, President Trump, in his announcement,

00:08:43.600 is that the United States no longer makes empty threats.

00:08:49.080 Ah, what a relief.

00:08:50.600 What a relief.

00:08:51.320 The entire Obama age was, you better not do this.

00:08:54.460 You better not.

00:08:55.360 Although I'm going to be, I'm going to write you a strongly worded letter.

00:08:58.160 I'm going to say boo-boo. 0.73

00:09:00.320 Can we all just admit, finally, that Donald Trump is a way, way better president

00:09:04.560 than basically anybody thought he would be?

00:09:07.200 Can we all finally admit that?

00:09:08.940 I bet right now the last anti-Trump conservative is somewhere in the oak-paneled study

00:09:15.060 of the Weekly Standard or somewhere, and he's saying, yeah, sure, sure,

00:09:18.220 but, you know, but does Trump read Baudelaire?

00:09:20.300 I don't, does he, he is doing so well.

00:09:24.620 Now, you might be wondering, how can Donald Trump just scrap the Iran deal?

00:09:29.480 Doesn't he have to go through Congress or the Senate or, I don't know, anybody?

00:09:34.140 Doesn't he have to ask this person or that person?

00:09:37.320 No.

00:09:38.340 No, he doesn't.

00:09:39.100 He can just scrap it.

00:09:40.360 And do you know why he can scrap it?

00:09:42.200 Because it's not a treaty.

00:09:44.580 Now, why isn't it a treaty?

00:09:45.520 I thought it was a treaty.

00:09:46.400 Doesn't it sound like a treaty?

00:09:47.660 It's an international agreement between the United States and another country on pretty

00:09:51.700 important matters, matters of national security.

00:09:54.080 There are other would-be signatories to this non-treaty treaty.

00:09:57.920 But there's a beautiful irony here.

00:10:00.180 There is a beautiful irony.

00:10:02.100 This gets to the Obama rule.

00:10:04.300 The current Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, then a congressman from Kansas in 2015 when

00:10:10.020 the Iran deal was inked or not quite inked.

00:10:13.380 He hated the Iran deal.

00:10:14.860 And he was one of its biggest critics.

00:10:17.000 The State Department wrote to Pompeo, the current Secretary of State in 2015, and said,

00:10:23.640 the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, that's the Iran deal, the Joint Comprehensive Plan

00:10:29.320 of Action is not a treaty or an executive agreement and is not a signed document.

00:10:37.140 So what is it?

00:10:38.540 It's not a treaty.

00:10:39.760 It's not an executive agreement.

00:10:41.000 It's not a signed document.

00:10:42.260 The reason for that is that it could never get through the Senate.

00:10:45.000 And Barack Obama couldn't build consensus even within his own party.

00:10:49.200 He certainly couldn't get an international treaty like that where we just surrender and

00:10:52.420 say, Iran, build a nuke in 15 minutes. 0.90

00:10:54.960 He certainly couldn't get that signed.

00:10:56.860 So they did everything they could to avoid having any oversight from the people, any oversight

00:11:02.120 from our elected representatives on the Iran deal.

00:11:05.820 Now, we should have seen this coming a little while ago.

00:11:08.380 Some people did see it coming.

00:11:09.840 When Donald Trump named Pompeo to be Secretary of State, that was a signal from the White House

00:11:14.620 that this would happen.

00:11:16.360 He was a major Iran deal critic.

00:11:19.340 Apparently, his predecessor, Rex Tillerson, was a little more open to the Iran deal.

00:11:24.820 He wasn't as harsh a critic of it.

00:11:26.800 So when that shift happened, when you brought in Ambassador John Bolton to be the National

00:11:31.960 Security Advisor, one of the great critics of the Iran deal and of Iran generally as the

00:11:38.180 threat to the world order.

00:11:39.000 When you brought him in, you had to think, hmm, I bet this deal isn't very long for this

00:11:42.560 world.

00:11:43.560 But the Iran deal, because it's not a treaty, because treaties need to be ratified by the

00:11:47.840 Senate, the Iran deal can just be scrapped because Donald Trump says so, and Pompeo says

00:11:52.680 so, and John Bolton says so, and every reasonable American says so.

00:11:56.580 This is the Obama rule.

00:11:58.000 This is what makes it that much sweeter.

00:11:59.660 This is what makes the irony so nice. 1.00

00:12:01.500 It's not only do we get rid of this stupid, terrible policy that further imperils the world 0.99

00:12:05.840 order and destroys American credibility abroad, not only do we scrap that, but we add insult 0.99

00:12:11.240 to injury with Barack Obama, because the Obama rule is that which can be enacted with a pen

00:12:16.000 and a phone can be repealed with a pen and a phone.

00:12:19.220 This was what Obama would brag about.

00:12:20.920 He would brag about how he was a king, how he was a dictator.

00:12:23.860 He would say, I don't need to go through Congress.

00:12:25.720 If Congress doesn't want to enact my policies, I've got a pen and a phone.

00:12:30.420 I'll sign executive orders and I'll just make them instituted by my godless, headless,

00:12:36.000 unaccountable bureaucracies and the bureaucratic agencies.

00:12:40.220 Okay, that's what you can do that.

00:12:42.040 I ain't going to have legs.

00:12:43.340 And now there's, there is no more Obama legacy.

00:12:47.040 What's left?

00:12:48.020 What is left of the Obama legacy after the Iran deal is gutted?

00:12:51.840 Obamacare has been gutted.

00:12:53.060 It hasn't been officially repealed, but the individual mandate, the sticking point of Obamacare,

00:12:57.440 the government saying you have to pay this penalty or tax or a tax when it's not a penalty

00:13:03.740 or blah, blah, blah.

00:13:04.460 You got to pay us.

00:13:05.520 You got to buy a product from a private company.

00:13:07.460 That's gone.

00:13:08.760 Trump snuck that into the tax reform plan.

00:13:11.300 So that, that's gone.

00:13:12.220 Obamacare has gutted.

00:13:13.080 The death spiral has been accelerated.

00:13:14.860 The clean power plan, a signature Obama EPA achievement, gutted.

00:13:19.200 The Iran deal, gutted.

00:13:20.960 Supreme court balance, totally preserved.

00:13:23.840 Antonin Scalia died, unfortunately.

00:13:25.740 But we got this new guy in his place who's an originalist on the court.

00:13:30.280 The balance of the court would have totally been in disarray had Donald Trump not won

00:13:34.900 the presidency, would have preserved a lot of Obama era policies and priorities.

00:13:40.620 That didn't happen.

00:13:41.500 The transgender military experiment that existed for 15 minutes, you know, that didn't exist 1.00

00:13:47.120 for most of Barack Obama's presidency.

00:13:48.680 And then he decided to poke a finger in the eye of Americans because he believes that the

00:13:53.780 only thing that matters in the United States are the handful of people who suffer from gender 0.86

00:13:57.740 confusion.

00:13:58.160 And we need to tailor all of our priorities as a country to eliminating biological sexual 0.99

00:14:03.780 differences.

00:14:04.480 That's over.

00:14:05.600 Offshore Arctic oil drilling, offshore drilling and Arctic oil drilling.

00:14:09.340 That's back on.

00:14:10.220 Government regulation of the internet and the so-called net neutrality.

00:14:13.380 That's over.

00:14:14.640 How about the Paris climate wannabe treaty?

00:14:16.660 Another fake treaty that Barack Obama knew he couldn't get through.

00:14:19.520 So he had to sort of anti-constitutionally sign this agreement.

00:14:23.240 What about that?

00:14:23.880 Oh, we're out of that one too.

00:14:25.120 What's left?

00:14:26.240 What is left?

00:14:29.180 It's the end of the Obama legacy.

00:14:31.080 It is as if the man were not president.

00:14:33.520 It's over.

00:14:34.840 It's over today.

00:14:36.300 Mark it on your calendars, folks.

00:14:38.040 It's done.

00:14:38.640 John Kerry now, Barack Obama's secretary of state, one of the most boring men in the world,

00:14:45.180 when he's not spending time just standing on his yacht calling to Teresa Hines and saying, 0.88

00:14:50.200 monkey, bring me my, my tie, monkey. 0.80

00:14:52.960 When he's not doing that, when he's not just being Thurston Howell III on Gilligan's Island,

00:14:57.620 he has been working overtime to try to save this deal.

00:15:00.840 He's been calling foreign leaders.

00:15:02.500 He's been calling the leaders of Iran, all the people he used to work with overseas when

00:15:06.480 he was secretary of state.

00:15:07.480 He met with the Iranian foreign minister, Javad Zarif, to try to save this deal.

00:15:14.000 I know you're confused.

00:15:15.400 You would say, wait a second, why, how, why is he doing this when he's not the secretary

00:15:19.540 of state?

00:15:20.180 And not only that, he doesn't hold any position in our government. 1.00

00:15:23.540 Oh, because he's a big jerk who thinks too highly of himself and really wants to salvage 0.99

00:15:28.300 any even slight vestige of a legacy for him or for Barack Obama or for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:15:34.440 But they can't because it's over.

00:15:36.540 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:15:38.040 So he's, he's meeting with these people and he's meeting with adversaries of the United

00:15:42.160 States and he's negotiating behind the back of the U.S. government.

00:15:46.420 Not only is this a sort of uncouth, not only is this a little bit gauche and disrespectful

00:15:52.420 of your current administration and your current government.

00:15:55.360 It's illegal.

00:15:56.500 It is illegal in the Logan Act.

00:15:57.940 We'll get to that in a second.

00:15:59.680 Of course, in typical Trumpian form, the president responded via Twitter.

00:16:04.620 Donald Trump wrote, quote, the United States does not need John Kerry's possibly illegal

00:16:09.580 shadow diplomacy on the very badly negotiated Iran deal.

00:16:13.920 He was the one that created this mess in the first place.

00:16:17.940 That's right.

00:16:19.360 And it reminds you of like a little kid.

00:16:21.940 This is what John Kerry and the Obama people are doing now.

00:16:24.360 There is a little kid and he was playing around where he shouldn't have been and he broke the

00:16:28.380 cookie jar and he smashed the vase or whatever.

00:16:31.380 And he's trying to clean it up really quick before you notice.

00:16:33.980 He's trying to, oh, they won't, they won't notice if I do it really, except, except we

00:16:36.920 did notice.

00:16:37.820 Your legacy is terrible.

00:16:39.460 You've been at a net negative for the country.

00:16:42.680 Sorry, try again.

00:16:43.920 You can't try again.

00:16:44.620 It's over.

00:16:45.400 You had a bad career.

00:16:46.660 You did, you did bad.

00:16:48.040 You failed at your job.

00:16:49.120 And now Donald Trump is cleaning up your mess and doing it very well.

00:16:52.200 So what he did here, what John Kerry is clearly doing is violating the Logan Act.

00:16:58.200 The Logan Act was passed in 1799.

00:17:00.840 It criminalizes unauthorized persons from negotiating with foreign governments that have a dispute

00:17:07.380 with the United States.

00:17:09.160 Makes sense that there's a reason that this law was passed very early on in our nation's

00:17:13.980 history, almost immediately, is you can't possibly have that, can you?

00:17:17.680 You can't have a government negotiating deals and then have the opposition party.

00:17:22.960 You can't have the Republican administration governing the country and, and the world because

00:17:27.600 the United States is the leader of the free world.

00:17:29.360 And then behind their backs, you have Democrats saying, hey, don't listen to them.

00:17:33.360 Yeah, don't, we're going to kick them out in a few years and then you deal with us.

00:17:35.720 So don't listen to them.

00:17:36.620 That would, that would destroy the United States.

00:17:38.520 A house divided against itself cannot stand.

00:17:41.120 Wise man said that.

00:17:41.980 And, uh, and then otherwise men quoted that you can't possibly have that.

00:17:47.460 So it's an important law.

00:17:48.440 This is what they booked Mike Flynn on.

00:17:50.940 This is how they got former Trump national security advisor for, for also about 15 minutes,

00:17:56.120 Mike Flynn.

00:17:56.720 They got him on the Logan Act because the incoming national security advisor talked with his

00:18:02.180 counterparts overseas during the transition, a perfectly normal practice.

00:18:06.580 They decided to go after him on, on the Logan Act and, uh, and try to get him on this.

00:18:11.400 What John Kerry is doing right now, up until two hours ago, is way, way worse than anything

00:18:17.280 Mike Flynn did with regard to the Logan Act.

00:18:20.980 The trouble here, of course, is that no one has ever been convicted of violating the Logan

00:18:26.500 Act since it was passed in 1799.

00:18:29.500 So we, partisans always use this as a threat.

00:18:33.300 They always say when it's, I've done it too.

00:18:35.620 It's a good little thing to point out because it is a good law.

00:18:38.800 So you actually do need to watch out for it.

00:18:40.960 But no one's actually going to get prosecuted for it.

00:18:44.300 Uh, the, the law started because President Adams, John Adams, didn't like France very

00:18:49.720 much, which is a good American tradition.

00:18:51.900 So a Jefferson loyalist, George Logan of Philadelphia, went to Paris in 1798 to get around the Federalist

00:19:00.180 administration.

00:19:01.660 You had the Federalist Adams.

00:19:02.900 You had the anti-Federalists led by Jefferson and the anti-Federalists sent some people to

00:19:08.420 Paris and said, don't, don't negotiate with the Federalists.

00:19:11.660 Uh, that's not good.

00:19:12.900 I, I totally understand why that law was passed.

00:19:15.160 As a matter of politics, we probably don't want to prosecute people for it.

00:19:20.780 It would just get pretty messy if you have, uh, your political opponents talking with people

00:19:26.460 overseas and you start throwing your political opponents in jail.

00:19:29.160 It just doesn't look good.

00:19:30.240 Even if they deserve it, even if they're Hillary Clinton, frankly, it's not a great look to

00:19:34.840 throw your political opponents in jail, no matter how criminal they are and how much

00:19:38.200 they deserve it.

00:19:38.880 So it's, I suppose it's a good thing we don't prosecute people for this, but important to

00:19:44.840 keep in mind because John Kerry is violating this.

00:19:48.020 It is an important law.

00:19:49.320 It is really horrible what he's doing.

00:19:51.200 It's very disrespectful.

00:19:52.300 It's very anti-American, but hey, we're talking about John Kerry.

00:19:55.980 We're talking about John Kerry who just speaks in French on his yacht to, to little monkey,

00:19:59.620 you know, monkey, hello, bring me my, bring me my Tom Collins.

00:20:03.560 So not just John Kerry is upset about this.

00:20:06.400 Barack Obama's flax, the people who were 14 years old when they worked in the White

00:20:11.020 House, now they're 16 years old.

00:20:13.560 They're also very, very sad.

00:20:16.700 The one that this one came out, I believe from Ben Rhodes, quote, beyond the potentially

00:20:22.200 catastrophic consequences with Iran, Trump's decision is devastating to U.S. credibility

00:20:28.380 globally.

00:20:29.460 After this, why would anyone trust an international agreement that the U.S. negotiates? 1.00

00:20:34.940 You jerks. 1.00

00:20:36.860 That's what, that's what he tweeted out. 1.00

00:20:38.560 Former, he was like a failed novelist.

00:20:41.460 This guy, he was in a master's program for fiction writing and for some reason he came

00:20:46.320 to determine foreign policy for the United States under Barack Obama.

00:20:50.400 I think he drove a van one time for the Obama campaign.

00:20:52.840 So he was promoted to this major presidential advisor.

00:20:56.660 Are you kidding me?

00:20:58.680 Are you kidding?

00:20:59.660 You're going to talk to me, Ben Rhodes, about the credibility of the United States?

00:21:03.160 You're going to talk to me, Obama administration officials, about international credibility

00:21:08.200 of the United States?

00:21:09.320 The Obama administration, the president himself, not just a flack, not just one of you, the

00:21:15.260 president himself said, we have a red line.

00:21:17.400 We're drawing a red line in Syria and there will be dire consequences if Russia, if Syria 1.00

00:21:21.800 crosses that red line.

00:21:23.420 And guess what Syria did? 0.99

00:21:24.420 They said, well, Barack Obama, you look like kind of a wimp. 0.96

00:21:27.080 So we're going to cross it. 0.83

00:21:28.780 What are you going to do?

00:21:29.560 And Obama said, I'm going to write you a strongly worded letter.

00:21:33.760 That's what I'm going to do. 1.00

00:21:34.760 Pathetic. 1.00

00:21:35.600 Absolutely pathetic. 1.00

00:21:36.640 Are you kidding me? 0.99

00:21:38.160 People who allow the international community, people who allow our foreign adversaries, little 0.99

00:21:45.220 tin pot dictators in the middle of nowhere, when they allow them to push us around and 1.00

00:21:50.820 we stand down and we don't back up our threats, those are the people that are going to tell us

00:21:55.220 about U.S. credibility.

00:21:56.300 Give me a break.

00:21:56.920 Getting rid of the Iran deal is finally restoring U.S. credibility abroad.

00:22:01.220 It's finally saying, no, we're not going to allow the worst regime on planet Earth.

00:22:06.140 We're not going to allow.

00:22:07.400 And look, there are other crazier regimes like North Korea is a kind of crazier regime, but

00:22:11.320 as a threat to the world order, as a persistent, constant threat to the world order, nobody

00:22:16.220 touches Iran. 0.84

00:22:17.520 And we're going to let the, okay, you can have a nuclear weapon, but hey, we'll only give 0.99

00:22:21.080 you a nuclear weapon if we can give you a ton of money too.

00:22:23.360 That was the deal basically.

00:22:24.400 Finally, we're restoring credibility.

00:22:27.400 And by the way, Mr. Rhodes, what about, what, what international agreement are you talking

00:22:31.800 about?

00:22:32.940 What, what, why would they get into an international agreement with the United States?

00:22:35.740 I thought this wasn't an international agreement.

00:22:37.820 I thought this wasn't a binding agreement.

00:22:40.000 I thought this wasn't a treaty.

00:22:41.500 I thought this wasn't an executive agreement.

00:22:43.540 It's just a thing, right?

00:22:44.740 It's because that's, that's the way the Obama administration sold it because what their actions

00:22:49.400 were patently anti-constitutional.

00:22:51.440 You can't have it both ways.

00:22:53.440 You cannot have it both ways.

00:22:54.620 It can't be a binding treaty that the United States committed itself to when it's convenient

00:22:59.560 for the Obama people.

00:23:00.900 And then, oh, just a thing that nobody actually had to sign because we don't want to go through

00:23:04.560 the Senate.

00:23:05.000 On the other hand, you can't have it both ways.

00:23:07.920 Another Obama flack, Dan Pfeiffer tweeted, quote,

00:23:10.540 pulling out of the Iran deal will make all the Trumpists feel good.

00:23:15.340 But what is the plan now to contain the Iranian nuclear threat, huh?

00:23:19.900 It doesn't seem like anyone in the White House has even thought past today's event.

00:23:24.980 This is another one of the Obama pod bros.

00:23:27.320 He's one of the people on Pod Save America that I've been saving my brain from by not listening

00:23:31.600 to.

00:23:32.000 But I'm going to have to listen today because it's going to be the biggest wine fest ever.

00:23:36.420 It's going to be the biggest wine fest since November 8th, 2016.

00:23:40.460 But to Mr. Pfeiffer's suggestion that nobody in the White House has thought about how to

00:23:45.040 prevent the Iranian bomb after the Iran deal is scrapped, pretty sure someone has. 0.96

00:23:50.840 If memory serves correctly, the National Security Advisor to President Trump, John Bolton, published

00:23:57.160 while the Iran deal was being finalized, while all people of good sense were protesting 0.99

00:24:02.420 this stupid deal, he published an op-ed in the New York Times titled, 1.00

00:24:06.420 To Stop Iran's Bomb, Bomb Iran. 1.00

00:24:10.920 Seems like someone's thought of it.

00:24:12.140 Doesn't sound like a bad idea either.

00:24:14.400 And by the way, that was the headline that was written.

00:24:17.860 It's a good piece.

00:24:18.620 It's a more nuanced piece.

00:24:19.640 Just like all things with John Bolton, the headline always sounds crazy.

00:24:23.360 And then you actually read anything about it and you realize this is an extremely nuanced

00:24:27.720 thinker who knows much more than you do about these topics that people spout off on.

00:24:32.380 But to stop Iran's bomb, bomb Iran is an important statement because it doesn't mean that we're 0.69

00:24:37.520 going to launch a massive war with Iran.

00:24:39.320 It doesn't mean that we're going to invade Iran.

00:24:40.980 It doesn't even quite mean that we're going to bomb Iran necessarily.

00:24:44.460 What it means is that we're not going to appease Iran and we're going to have the credible threat 0.99

00:24:50.340 of violence against them if they continue to threaten the world order.

00:24:53.600 And this is to ensure world peace.

00:24:56.680 Simple-minded people, pacifist type people, they say, oh, if you threaten violence, that

00:25:03.600 threatens the world order.

00:25:05.260 Not true.

00:25:06.640 When you have strength, when you come to adversaries from a position of strength, you can have peace.

00:25:13.740 The Reagan years were, his critics said they were bellicose.

00:25:18.460 He was saber rattling.

00:25:19.540 He was threatening war. 1.00

00:25:20.340 He was a madman. 0.96

00:25:21.120 They were some of the most peaceful years in recent history. 0.97

00:25:24.480 The Reagan administration, both terms.

00:25:28.340 Peace, when you come to an adversary and you say, I'm not going to fight.

00:25:32.460 I don't want to fight.

00:25:33.280 Please don't make me fight.

00:25:34.620 That creates chaos.

00:25:35.800 That creates war.

00:25:36.720 You have peace through strength and you have chaos and war through appeasement.

00:25:41.820 Appeasing Iran threatens the world order. 1.00

00:25:44.060 And it threatens the world order in a very specific way.

00:25:46.100 I'm not just speaking in ethereal terms.

00:25:48.100 We have kept a lid on nuclear weapons for a very long time.

00:25:52.040 We've been using nuclear weapons since the 1940s and we've been developing them.

00:25:56.620 We've been trying to develop them for a long time and we used them in the Second World War.

00:26:02.400 We've been able to keep a lid on nukes since then.

00:26:04.800 And it would stand to reason if the United States has nuclear weapons, if the Soviet Union had nuclear weapons, pretty soon everybody would have nuclear weapons.

00:26:11.120 That's what people expected.

00:26:12.220 But that's not what happened.

00:26:13.860 Right now, the countries that possess nuclear weapons are the United States, Russia, the UK, France, China, India, Israel, Pakistan.

00:26:21.740 Now, other countries, and North Korea.

00:26:26.340 Other countries have actually denuclearized.

00:26:29.920 They've had nukes and then they've gotten rid of them.

00:26:31.600 South Africa, the former Soviet republics like Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine.

00:26:38.700 They've actually denuclearized and we've kept nukes away from the other countries.

00:26:41.960 We've just said, you're not going to do it.

00:26:43.580 We're going to keep a hold on it for as long as we can.

00:26:45.460 We've done a very good job for six, seven decades.

00:26:48.660 Iran threatens all of this. 1.00

00:26:50.240 Because if we allow, if we permit Iran, the greatest threat to the world order, it's always got one foot in the world order, one foot funding terrorism abroad. 0.98

00:26:58.820 If we allow them to have a nuclear weapon, every other country is going to demand this.

00:27:03.280 Every other country around the world is going to demand these things.

00:27:05.620 Despite what the Obama bros and the pod bros and John Kerry thinks, this is great news.

00:27:12.280 So very quickly, what did the Iran deal do?

00:27:14.260 Well, it was sold to us as reducing Iran's ability to produce plutonium and uranium, two components used in nuclear weapons.

00:27:20.800 Didn't do that.

00:27:21.820 There's also a sunset clause that would ease the restrictions over time.

00:27:25.520 So at best, even if Iran was a straight player, it would delay the program slightly.

00:27:30.240 But we know from the recent presentation in Israel, it didn't even really do that. 0.99

00:27:33.720 The Iranians are liars. 1.00

00:27:34.960 They lied to us. 1.00

00:27:35.960 They did have a secret program.

00:27:37.720 Nobody can trust them, especially on this issue.

00:27:40.000 So in return, that's what we get, is basically nothing in return.

00:27:43.020 Maybe at best a slight delay in the nuclear bomb for Iran at best.

00:27:48.360 In return, we gave them a ton of money.

00:27:50.600 We lifted massive sanctions from them.

00:27:52.920 We unfroze between $50 and $150 billion of Iranian assets in banks throughout the U.S. and overseas.

00:27:58.920 And then, to top it all off, we sent an airplane carrying $1.7 billion in cash, euros, Swiss francs, other currencies.

00:28:08.780 We just flew it to Iran and just gave them cash.

00:28:11.660 That was our negotiation.

00:28:12.700 We pretend that Iran doesn't have a nuclear program, that they're trustworthy enough to be trusted, to work with here. 0.98

00:28:21.260 Even though we know definitively that they've been lying to us about the nuclear program they already have,

00:28:25.600 we at best slightly delay the bomb.

00:28:27.560 In return, we give them gazillions of dollars.

00:28:29.480 That took two years to negotiate.

00:28:31.260 That took two years to say, hey, would you like a bomb and a lot of money?

00:28:35.560 You're going to need to give us more money.

00:28:37.320 Okay, basically that was a negotiation.

00:28:41.580 By the way, Donald Trump tried to fix this deal.

00:28:43.820 He didn't initially scrap it altogether or seem determined to scrap it altogether.

00:28:49.220 The New York Times reports Trump negotiated, but the talks collapsed when Trump insisted on sharp limits on Iran's nuclear production continuing after the sunset clause in 2030.

00:29:00.580 Under the Obama deal, within 12 years, Iran gets a bomb.

00:29:03.460 Trump said no way.

00:29:04.820 The talks broke down.

00:29:05.740 So, Trump has told the allies, we're going to reinstate all those sanctions.

00:29:10.340 We're going to impose economic penalties.

00:29:13.360 He told France first.

00:29:15.100 I think this is significant.

00:29:16.400 Donald Trump told his new BFF, his best friend forever French president, BFFF, Emmanuel Macron.

00:29:22.840 It told him first.

00:29:24.000 This is significant because France is typically the most dovish.

00:29:27.460 You know, they call this as the flag of the French army, is what they say.

00:29:31.200 The handkerchief, white handkerchief.

00:29:32.540 Macron has been skittish about the U.S. withdrawing from the deal.

00:29:36.880 And so, Trump, he's a good people person.

00:29:39.940 He gets him on board.

00:29:41.000 Mainstream media is furious.

00:29:42.660 The AP reports, breaking Trump to withdraw from landmark nuclear accord with Iran, dealing blow to U.S. allies.

00:29:50.860 The CNN reports, he's withdrawing from the nuclear deal, further isolating himself from the world.

00:29:58.380 Then CNN reports, OPEC official, ditching Iran deal would harm the global economy.

00:30:04.500 OPEC is Iran, by the way.

00:30:05.960 OPEC is the organization of petroleum exporting countries.

00:30:08.460 That includes Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela.

00:30:12.040 Just like some of the worst places on planet Earth.

00:30:14.260 And so, it's basically, the headline could read, Iran warns, ditching Iran deal is bad.

00:30:20.460 Breaking, wow.

00:30:21.920 So, and by the way, Trump is sending a message with the timing of this announcement.

00:30:26.180 Today is victory in Europe day. 0.76

00:30:28.500 Today is, you might have forgotten in the excitement.

00:30:31.340 The New York Times headline in 1945 today, the war in Europe has ended, surrender is unconditional.

00:30:36.260 VE will be proclaimed today, our troops on Okinawa gain.

00:30:40.420 Now, critics always say, oh, it's just a coincidence, you're reading too much into Trump.

00:30:44.080 Oh, you just got lucky, it just happened to be, it's just an accident, just a coincidence.

00:30:49.240 Okay, or, yeah, sure. 1.00

00:30:50.960 So, either Donald Trump knows what he's doing, or he's a complete idiot buffoon who just happens to be the luckiest person in the history of the world. 1.00

00:31:00.260 The entire Trump foreign policy promise from the beginning of the campaign has been, we don't win anymore. 1.00

00:31:05.200 We need to win, we need to win.

00:31:06.560 We need to have more wins, like we had in World War II, the last time we had a major world-acknowledged win.

00:31:12.800 So, he chooses the anniversary of the greatest U.S. foreign policy win to declare this nuclear deal over, and to say we're going to have peace through strength.

00:31:22.640 Seems like a tough coincidence.

00:31:24.880 That's a hard argument to make.

00:31:26.980 The U.S. no longer makes empty threats.

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00:33:07.660 It's too much today.

00:33:19.380 I can't.

00:33:19.780 How am I supposed to go through all of these leftist tears and I'm going to be drowning?

00:33:23.440 Okay.

00:33:24.400 Really, really good news coming up right now.

00:33:26.280 From the federal government, believe it or not, under Donald Trump,

00:33:31.100 the federal government has had a month which was on time and under budget.

00:33:34.780 In April, the federal government had the best budget month in history.

00:33:39.680 The federal government took in $515 billion in taxes.

00:33:43.380 It only spent only $297 billion.

00:33:47.040 This is a $218 billion surplus.

00:33:49.500 It beats the old record that happened 17 years ago of $190 billion.

00:33:54.780 You always hear they talk about the great budget surpluses.

00:33:58.380 That's what they're talking about.

00:33:59.660 They're talking about 2001.

00:34:01.700 We just beat it.

00:34:04.020 We just beat it.

00:34:05.680 The surplus surprised CBO analysts.

00:34:08.200 The CBO analysts predicted lower receipts to the government.

00:34:12.340 And this, they said, is the result of a stronger than expected economic growth.

00:34:16.900 Listen to that language.

00:34:18.840 Surprised.

00:34:19.660 It surprised the analysts.

00:34:21.240 It's stronger than expected.

00:34:22.620 I don't think it's stronger than expected.

00:34:23.880 It's just stronger than you expected.

00:34:26.260 And these analysts, these experts keep telling us, well, we all expected this.

00:34:31.260 It's unexpected growth.

00:34:32.380 It's unexpected this.

00:34:33.440 No, no, no.

00:34:33.800 You just, you are not expecting it because you're not seeing what's going on.

00:34:38.360 Because you're still living in fantasy land, 99% certainty Hillary Clinton's going to win

00:34:42.680 the election.

00:34:43.460 Trump isn't going to appoint an originalist.

00:34:45.120 Trump isn't going to pull out a paraclimate accord.

00:34:47.280 Trump isn't going to rip up the Iranian nuclear deal.

00:34:49.480 Trump isn't going to lower taxes.

00:34:50.520 That's the world.

00:34:52.780 So everything is unexpected to you.

00:34:54.460 But it ain't unexpected if you're just mainlining covfefe every day.

00:34:58.660 And that's what's going on here.

00:35:00.080 So on that, it's on time.

00:35:02.200 It's under budget.

00:35:03.020 This reminds me of a favorite clip of mine of Donald Trump from 13 years ago.

00:35:06.920 I understand a residential luxury building is far more complex than an open floor office

00:35:12.300 building to build.

00:35:13.180 It's much more.

00:35:13.640 You have many more bathrooms.

00:35:15.160 You have many more kitchens.

00:35:16.260 You have many more rooms.

00:35:17.720 It's more complex.

00:35:18.900 Office building is essentially open space with subdividers. 1.00

00:35:21.820 So I looked at it and I added up some of my costs.

00:35:26.800 And for Trump World Tower, across the street, built not long ago, I spent approximately $258

00:35:35.920 a foot.

00:35:36.860 It's the tallest building, tallest residential building in the world.

00:35:40.320 $258.32 a foot.

00:35:43.140 I have 871,000 feet.

00:35:45.840 It costs $225 million to build.

00:35:48.660 So you hear this.

00:35:50.600 It goes on.

00:35:51.340 Trump keeps talking like this.

00:35:52.740 A lot of people are surprised when they see that clip because it's Donald Trump speaking

00:35:57.100 with technical expertise on something.

00:35:59.540 We usually hear it because he's talking about so many things, the Iran deal, tax reform,

00:36:03.120 Obamacare, this, that, the other thing.

00:36:05.120 And so he speaks in these broad terms, just like all presidents do.

00:36:08.820 They have to speak in broad terms because they can't nail down to the minute details on

00:36:13.960 every single thing.

00:36:14.660 And we know that building buildings is something on which Donald Trump has a technical knowledge,

00:36:21.800 technical expertise.

00:36:23.080 So he says, oh yeah, he was being called to testify before Congress.

00:36:26.900 I think Tom Coburn was who was interviewing him.

00:36:31.340 And he said the UN building renovations were going way over budget, taking way too long.

00:36:37.140 And Trump said, oh yeah, I'd pay $200 a square foot.

00:36:39.320 I'd do this, do, do, do, do, do.

00:36:40.500 On tangible things, Donald Trump is great.

00:36:44.220 He really is expert when it comes to tangible things that you can put your hands around.

00:36:48.720 And that's why Donald Trump, even if he lacks precise, technical, wonkish knowledge of certain

00:36:55.200 areas of public policy or economic policy or foreign policy or whatever, he get, on issues

00:37:01.640 where there's a gut reaction, his gut seems to be in the right place.

00:37:05.420 On the Iran deal, the Iran deal actually isn't that complicated because it was such a terrible

00:37:09.300 deal, but he doesn't, maybe he doesn't know the minutia of this bank account had to be

00:37:12.800 frozen and this because of blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:14.680 But he just could tell this is a bad deal.

00:37:17.400 We're giving Iran money. 0.95

00:37:19.580 We're allowing them to have a nuclear weapon over time.

00:37:22.060 Bad deal.

00:37:23.640 And then they can sort it out there.

00:37:24.840 That, those tangible sort of things.

00:37:26.560 Say, oh yeah.

00:37:27.440 Do you think, do you think we should just give our adversaries the greatest threat to the

00:37:30.720 world order on planet earth?

00:37:32.440 Should we just give them a bunch of money and nuclear weapons? 0.99

00:37:35.680 Say, no, it's a bad deal.

00:37:37.540 I don't know a lot about Iran.

00:37:38.700 Sounds like a bad deal.

00:37:40.080 So you see this again and again.

00:37:42.440 And the mainstream media, they're furious.

00:37:44.140 They've turned up the attacks on Donald Trump over the past few months.

00:37:46.860 According to a new Media Research Center study, gotta love the Media Research Center, Brent

00:37:51.660 Bozell, they do excellent work.

00:37:53.340 91% of Trump coverage on major networks has been negative.

00:37:58.140 Specifically of the evaluative comments, 90% negative.

00:38:02.520 39% of TV network news coverage of Donald Trump has focused on the scandals.

00:38:09.240 The porn star and the whatever other stuff they're going to gin up.

00:38:12.520 The fake dossier, whatever.

00:38:14.600 16%, an additional 16% of coverage was on the scandals of Trump administration officials.

00:38:20.660 So some guy buys an expensive table for his office.

00:38:23.060 That's major network news all night.

00:38:25.000 Only 45% of TV network coverage was devoted to actual issues, actual policy issues.

00:38:32.320 That is an insane number.

00:38:35.060 55% was just on frivolous scandal nonsense.

00:38:38.960 45%, the minority of time was spent on actual policy issues.

00:38:44.220 Total ginned up, tawdry reality TV scandals.

00:38:48.040 That's the news.

00:38:49.020 That's the news for you.

00:38:50.180 I'm a banana.

00:38:51.220 Facts first.

00:38:51.920 Democracy dies.

00:38:53.080 I'm the facts, news.

00:38:55.560 Nonsense. 1.00

00:38:56.080 They're tabloid trash. 1.00

00:38:58.060 Incredibly, though, this is the incredible thing. 0.98

00:39:00.540 Trump's job approval rating actually rose over this period of time.

00:39:04.840 It rose from 37% in mid-December to 43% at the end of April.

00:39:09.280 And that's not just selectively picking polls that are nice to Donald Trump.

00:39:12.420 That is broadly reflected across all public polling.

00:39:15.920 Now, why is this?

00:39:16.680 Well, we've paid our taxes.

00:39:17.900 So all that scaremongering nonsense about tax reform, that's over.

00:39:22.300 And why else?

00:39:23.040 Because we see the country's doing well.

00:39:24.500 You can just sense it.

00:39:25.420 You can just feel it.

00:39:26.920 You can see, oh, Johnny's not laid off.

00:39:29.460 Oh, okay, that's, oh, this is, oh, this is kind of nice.

00:39:32.020 Maybe my, my wages are increasing.

00:39:33.860 We know that wages are increasing.

00:39:35.120 Ooh, that's good.

00:39:35.620 That hasn't happened in a while.

00:39:36.420 Additionally, public perception of the direction of the country is at a 10-year high.

00:39:42.800 Even CNN admits this.

00:39:44.380 This is the greatest sign of the apocalypse.

00:39:46.560 Some people are saying, Donald Trump's a good president.

00:39:48.420 That's a sign of the apocalypse.

00:39:49.860 Maybe.

00:39:50.520 CNN is admitting the truth about a Republican.

00:39:53.500 That is truly the sign of the apocalypse.

00:39:55.620 57% of Americans, the majority of Americans, now say things are going well.

00:39:59.840 That's up from 49% in February.

00:40:02.280 That's a change in just a few months.

00:40:03.640 This is the largest proportion of people in America who say things are going well and the

00:40:09.060 direction of the country is in the right place since January 2007, since the Bush administration,

00:40:16.280 since the beginning of the last year of the Bush administration, since before the financial

00:40:20.000 crisis, since before that awful nightmare of the Barack Obama administration, this is

00:40:24.760 the largest proportion of Americans who say the country is going in the right direction,

00:40:29.640 which means that all of the Obama administration was the country going in the wrong direction.

00:40:34.940 There's even a surge of approval among Democrats.

00:40:37.480 40% of Democrats now say the country is doing well.

00:40:41.020 40%.

00:40:41.540 That number was 25% in February.

00:40:44.360 That is a 37.5% surge in the number of Democrats who thought the country was doing well in February,

00:40:50.480 as I think so now, just a few months later.

00:40:53.320 Trump's daily approval rating from Rasmussen, the only polling firm that still does daily

00:40:57.500 approval, is between 47% and 51%.

00:41:01.320 Excellent numbers.

00:41:03.680 CNN shows that those who approve of Donald Trump, this is a pretty interesting fact of

00:41:08.260 this survey.

00:41:09.060 Those who approve of Donald Trump overwhelmingly cite policy for their positive view.

00:41:16.400 The majority of those who disapprove of Donald Trump cite his personality or his body language

00:41:23.640 or his tweets or whatever.

00:41:25.620 The people who approve of Trump say, hey, look, all the things that matter, they're going

00:41:28.980 great.

00:41:29.480 The people who still disapprove of Trump, for now, they cite ephemeral nonsense.

00:41:33.900 Another poll, Huffington Post and YouGov poll, shows that more than half of Hillary Clinton 1.00

00:41:39.300 voters say the country was better 50 years ago, which makes them deplorable.

00:41:43.740 They are now the deplorables.

00:41:45.580 There is a sense, even among Hillary Clinton voters, that something in recent years is broken.

00:41:50.840 There's a sense that America used to be better and greater than it has been recently.

00:41:55.640 I choose that word importantly.

00:41:57.600 There is a sense that we need to make America great again.

00:42:00.200 That's among Hillary Clinton voters. 0.98

00:42:02.240 That is wonderful news.

00:42:03.180 Do we have any time?

00:42:03.900 Yes. 0.93

00:42:04.320 In the last, because it's too much good news, so we have to get a little bit of ridiculous 0.75

00:42:08.400 and sad news in.

00:42:09.660 We just got to inject that just so that we're not like going through the ceiling today.

00:42:13.680 I have to talk about this Met Gala last night, the Met Ball.

00:42:17.140 This happens every year to support the Costume Institute at the Met, and it's very big.

00:42:24.340 Hollywood stars come.

00:42:25.360 They wear these crazy costumes designed by all these amazing designers.

00:42:29.000 They're usually quite beautiful.

00:42:29.980 This year's was titled Heavenly Bodies, get it, Fashion and the Catholic Imagination.

00:42:38.340 Now, I would have preferred Heavenly Bodies, Fashion and the Catholic Logical Deduction of 0.76

00:42:43.360 the Nature of Reality, but that is a minor semantic quibble.

00:42:46.620 It's neither here nor there.

00:42:47.920 This is the annual show, and usually they have these boring themes.

00:42:52.080 Recently, they had China through the looking glass. 0.97

00:42:56.440 Now, you probably can't do that because that's cultural appropriation.

00:42:59.640 You know, that's fine.

00:43:00.400 That's a little boring.

00:43:01.580 American woman fashioning a national identity.

00:43:05.960 Kind of bland.

00:43:06.860 They've all been kind of bland recently.

00:43:09.380 The Roman Catholic Church is not bland.

00:43:11.460 It is many things.

00:43:12.340 It is not bland.

00:43:13.400 Chesterton described it as a thick steak, a glass of red wine, and a good cigar.

00:43:17.860 That the aesthetics of the Catholic Church are the aesthetics of the West.

00:43:23.060 And some of these costumes last night, some of these gowns and costumes were really quite good.

00:43:29.360 Katy Perry's, I loved it.

00:43:31.100 It was seraphic.

00:43:32.460 She went as this giant angel.

00:43:35.160 Six foot tall wings.

00:43:36.820 Very beautiful.

00:43:38.620 It actually did reflect a Catholic aesthetic.

00:43:41.560 Rihanna took things a little literally.

00:43:43.420 Rihanna was one of the hosts of this.

00:43:44.820 This singer, Rihanna, you know, I'm sure we're all very familiar with her odes and, you know, quartets or whatever she writes.

00:43:53.420 She just showed up in a Pope hat. 1.00

00:43:56.300 So she just wore a miter, you know, and that's, but I kind of liked it.

00:43:59.940 It's sort of, it didn't look good exactly, but it was kind of fun, you know, and I don't know.

00:44:06.720 I get this, I kind of like Rihanna as a, you know, she works with Kanye.

00:44:09.800 I kind of like Kanye now.

00:44:10.860 She worked with Paul McCartney.

00:44:12.060 That's fun.

00:44:12.500 Doesn't seem to take herself super seriously.

00:44:15.120 Yeah, I kind of like her.

00:44:16.440 And so, but she, you know, she wears this Pope hat as if to say like, did I do it right?

00:44:20.820 And you're like, well, probably could have done a little better, but that's okay.

00:44:23.720 Then it gets to Lena Waithe.

00:44:25.620 I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.

00:44:26.860 She's some actress that I've never heard of. 1.00

00:44:28.720 And she decided that her response to the Catholic Church, she's going to wear a rainbow flag cape, you know, because she's a, she's a lesbian, I guess. 0.97

00:44:39.700 And that's her, but yeah, now you could say that she was evoking Joseph's coat of many colors.

00:44:44.700 I don't know if that's quite what she was going for, but either way, you know, she wears this, this rainbow flag cape and she's basically saying, yeah, yeah, that'll show you Roman Curia.

00:44:53.660 That'll show you church.

00:44:54.980 They kind of missed the point.

00:44:56.080 It's not a Catholic aesthetic.

00:44:57.260 So, okay, good.

00:44:59.060 Yeah, good point.

00:44:59.840 Hey, you got them.

00:45:00.720 Sure.

00:45:02.160 Broadly speaking, I like the idea of this.

00:45:04.400 Some Catholics were getting offended.

00:45:05.680 They said, you know, no, you shouldn't make a mockery of this.

00:45:08.740 I don't think it makes a mockery of the Catholic Church or the Catholic aesthetic to wear clothing that's evocative of the Catholic imagination, as they call it.

00:45:19.380 I wanted some, some crusaders to show up wearing the big cross and the, you know, chain link arm or whatever.

00:45:25.960 But the Catholic aesthetic is the aesthetic of the West.

00:45:28.820 The greatest art in history has been made by the Catholic faithful, Dante, Michelangelo, Raphael, people that have last names.

00:45:36.940 You know, a lot of, a lot of, of the art of the West is Catholic, the majority of it.

00:45:42.820 Certainly all comes from the tradition of Catholicism, the culture of Catholicism.

00:45:47.920 The part that's sad about this is that it's a costume.

00:45:51.200 The West now wears crucifixes and they were, people were wearing big crucifixes.

00:45:56.440 They wear them for costume rather than for worship.

00:45:59.820 And lest I be accused of being like the cultural appropriation people, I'm actually making the exact opposite of their argument.

00:46:08.660 I'm not saying that, you know, my culture is not a costume or my, I'm not saying that at all.

00:46:13.240 I'm happy that they're wearing Catholic aesthetic garb.

00:46:17.860 I'm happy that they're appropriating the Catholic culture. 0.99

00:46:21.100 I just wish they would appropriate the Catholic cult as well.

00:46:24.380 I wish they would go further in their appropriation actually.

00:46:27.200 Because this dinner wasn't, or this, this gala wasn't medieval themed.

00:46:31.800 It would be one thing if they said fashion and the early church, fashion and the late medieval church, fashion and the Provencal bishops or whatever.

00:46:42.500 I don't know.

00:46:43.920 It was fashion and the Catholic imagination.

00:46:46.280 So it's not just wearing clothing from a different time period and saying that's my costume.

00:46:52.840 All clothing that's out of fashion becomes costume.

00:46:55.980 When you wear it, I can wear the armor of a knight.

00:46:59.540 I'm not really wearing, I'm wearing a costume.

00:47:01.340 That would always be a costume.

00:47:02.400 But now we're saying Catholic culture itself is a costume because we don't do it anymore.

00:47:09.620 And this is not good.

00:47:10.860 This is fundamentally disconnecting the culture from the cult.

00:47:14.100 You can't have a culture without a cult.

00:47:16.180 The culture is defined by what the people worship.

00:47:20.420 So this could threaten to transform modernity into a new dark age because everybody's got to serve somebody.

00:47:27.040 And that is being supplanted by something.

00:47:29.440 The culture that fashioned the West now wears that garb as a costume.

00:47:36.920 That's not a good sign.

00:47:38.300 This poses a lot of threats.

00:47:40.780 But it ain't going to happen today because today we're fighting back.

00:47:43.900 This is a point.

00:47:44.920 I'll try to bring in some clavin-ness here because Drew's out all week. 1.00

00:47:49.120 He always says you just have today.

00:47:51.040 If you have a good day, then have a good day tomorrow.

00:47:53.420 You fight for liberty today.

00:47:54.620 You preserve liberty today.

00:47:55.420 You preserve it tomorrow.

00:47:56.380 If you do that enough days, you have a good life.

00:47:58.600 All we can do is preserve liberty today.

00:48:00.940 And we have done that.

00:48:03.060 The United States has done that today.

00:48:04.960 This is a very good day.

00:48:07.000 Cheers.

00:48:07.880 I hope you enjoy your John Kerry vintage 2018 salty, delicious leftist tears.

00:48:13.820 We've got a great show tomorrow.

00:48:15.140 We've got a really interesting topic.

00:48:16.680 We're going to take on, well, I won't spoil it.

00:48:19.220 You'll see it tomorrow.

00:48:20.240 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:48:21.700 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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