The Michael Knowles Show - September 12, 2024


Ep. 1572 - Joe Biden Ditches Kamala For Trump？


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Kamala Harris won the first Democratic primary debate on Tuesday night, but was it enough to change the outcome of the election? And did Joe Biden's apparent endorsement of Donald Trump help her or hurt her chances of winning the nomination?

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00:00:36.420 Yes.
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00:00:58.960 A major celebrity endorsement threatens to upend the presidential race.
00:01:05.220 No, I'm not talking about Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris.
00:01:10.100 I'm talking instead about Joe Biden's apparent endorsement of Donald Trump.
00:01:15.820 If you are watching this show rather than just listening, you can see Joe Biden donning a Trump hat at the Shanksville fire station in Pennsylvania.
00:01:26.040 And Biden didn't even do it confused and unwittingly as he does so many things.
00:01:32.000 Biden briefly donned the hat as a show of bipartisan unity after a fireman offered it to him.
00:01:38.560 It was a charming moment, actually.
00:01:39.760 I suspect Biden also did it because he privately despises Kamala Harris and could not possibly care less about helping her win.
00:01:48.600 Which all got me thinking.
00:01:52.300 Lots of political nerds were frustrated during the debate two nights ago.
00:01:56.940 The ridiculous moderators, the missed opportunities, the fact check lies.
00:02:01.360 But as the dust settles, even the liberal media are admitting that Kamala might not have actually won very much at all.
00:02:10.660 Outlets from Fox News to the New York Times are reporting that undecided voters are unsold on Harris.
00:02:18.000 Celebrities, some of them, are refusing to endorse.
00:02:22.160 And even Joe Biden himself can't resist the allure of the red Trump hat.
00:02:28.920 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:02:29.620 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:02:48.000 Welcome back to the show.
00:02:50.320 Some celebrities are endorsing Kamala, of course.
00:02:53.880 Up to and including Taylor Swift.
00:02:57.280 We'll get to the meaning of that in one moment.
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00:03:42.460 I mentioned that as the dust settles from the debate, outlets that are theoretically conservative, outlets that are decidedly liberal, are suggesting that perhaps Kamala didn't do quite as well as everyone was saying on the night.
00:04:00.520 And perhaps Trump didn't do quite so poorly, as some people were saying on the night.
00:04:04.460 And perhaps those moderators who made it a three-on-one debate didn't really succeed all that much.
00:04:11.720 I have the New York Times in my hand.
00:04:14.500 And pundits said Harris won the debate.
00:04:18.660 Undecided voters were not so sure.
00:04:21.960 Voters said the vice president talked about a sweeping vision to fix the country's most stubborn problems, but they wanted the fine print.
00:04:28.600 And for weeks, undecided voters have been asking for more substance.
00:04:34.520 So it was perhaps no accident that Vice President Kamala Harris' first words during the presidential debate on Tuesday were,
00:04:39.280 I'm actually the only person on this stage who has a plan.
00:04:42.020 Some Americans might need more convincing.
00:04:45.520 And then the Times goes on to interview undecided voters who say it was all disappointing.
00:04:49.980 You know, the pundit class thought Harris did well because she rattled Trump.
00:04:53.580 But the undecided voters were maybe not convinced.
00:04:56.200 And I think this is probably right because while the political nerds were watching the debate,
00:05:01.820 and I include us in this, I include you and me, you listening to this show.
00:05:06.040 If you're listening to this show right now, you follow politics very closely.
00:05:12.780 And so we all could see, ah, here was the trap she was laying out.
00:05:17.460 Oh, I hope he sidesteps that trap.
00:05:19.460 Ah, here's what he could have said because this would refer to a thing that she said six months ago.
00:05:23.740 And these moderators are absolutely out of control because they're not calling out the hoaxes that Kamala is saying that we all know about.
00:05:30.260 But they are focusing on Donald Trump and this.
00:05:33.000 And we knew, we had a vision of how the debate was supposed to go.
00:05:37.580 But for undecided voters who don't follow every single machination every single day,
00:05:43.800 they had a different experience watching the debate.
00:05:47.620 They were not as bothered by some of the missed opportunities on the Trump side.
00:05:52.620 They did not really care about the so-called fact checks.
00:05:57.020 They did not, even when Kamala was not fact check on her hoaxes,
00:06:01.340 they'd heard many of those hoaxes before.
00:06:03.280 And if it didn't decide their vote by now in September of 2024, it's probably not going to affect them very much.
00:06:12.080 This is not a race to win over 93% of the American electorate, which is already decided.
00:06:20.640 This is a race for 5% to 7% of the electorate.
00:06:23.460 And they had a different experience than others.
00:06:25.400 And I hate to give it to them.
00:06:26.920 I hate to give it to that old man, Andrew Plavin.
00:06:29.380 But he made this point in the room.
00:06:32.060 We were all sitting and watching the debate together during backstage.
00:06:35.160 And some of my friends and colleagues were pulling their hair out.
00:06:38.620 Others were a little more moderate.
00:06:40.320 I thought, oh, it was a missed opportunity here.
00:06:41.680 But, oh, that was a good line there.
00:06:42.900 And, oh, that was pretty good.
00:06:43.740 And, you know, I was kind of in the middle on the whole thing.
00:06:46.740 But Trump, or Trump, Drew was the one who said that Trump might well be considered the winner
00:06:53.420 as the dust settles days later, weeks later.
00:06:57.140 And that might well be happening.
00:07:00.960 Fox News conducted a real-time survey of voters.
00:07:06.600 And it showed that independents and undecided people were tracking more with Republican reactions
00:07:11.140 to the debate than to Democrat reactions.
00:07:14.680 What's the point of the debate?
00:07:16.840 One of my absolute favorite Twitter accounts, Eudaimonia, pointed out, he said,
00:07:21.260 when these debates happen now, both sides say that their candidates won.
00:07:25.180 And most of them probably believe it.
00:07:27.180 They're probably being sincere when they say that.
00:07:30.060 Because no one really knows what it means to win one of these debates now.
00:07:34.280 You go out and you rattle off your side's talking points.
00:07:37.420 Okay, that's not persuading the other side.
00:07:39.800 And then maybe you get a few zingers in.
00:07:42.140 Okay, Trump got more zingers than Kamala. 1.00
00:07:44.560 She had one or two lines that were okay.
00:07:46.760 And then, well, what does it even mean to win?
00:07:49.460 What are you trying to accomplish here?
00:07:52.720 These aren't really debates.
00:07:54.980 They're just theatrical opportunities to land a few blows.
00:08:00.260 So then what does it mean?
00:08:01.460 What did Kamala have to do? 1.00
00:08:03.200 Kamala had to show that she had a pulse.
00:08:04.600 So in that way, she did much better than Joe Biden.
00:08:06.800 And so in that way, you might say she won.
00:08:08.320 She accomplished something.
00:08:09.400 But she also had to show voters that she had substance, that she had a vision for the future.
00:08:13.800 She failed at that.
00:08:14.720 But what did Trump have to do?
00:08:17.240 Trump had to show that he's still sharp.
00:08:20.040 He's still with it.
00:08:20.940 He still has a policy vision.
00:08:22.620 He did accomplish that.
00:08:24.740 And he asked to, I don't know, inspire people to get out there and crawl over broken glass to vote for him.
00:08:32.680 And I guess he was a little more reserved than he sometimes is.
00:08:36.600 I don't know.
00:08:37.520 He basically accomplished what he had to do.
00:08:40.700 And Kamala accomplished some of what he had to do, but not all of it.
00:08:43.500 Maybe that is why outlets across the political spectrum are suggesting whatever the pundits have to say, whatever the political nerds have to say, the undecided voters who are the actual target audience of the debate might have a different opinion.
00:08:57.880 Now, speaking of demonstrable lies during that debate, Kamala Harris made it. 1.00
00:09:02.040 We went through a number of them on the show yesterday, but there's one that really deserves some focus.
00:09:06.740 Kamala Harris declared during the debate when Trump brilliantly forced the abortion question onto territory that was uncomfortable for her and her side. 1.00
00:09:18.360 We're no longer talking about abortion within the first three hours after conception.
00:09:23.160 We're no longer talking about abortion in the less than 1% instance of conception through rape, incest, or pregnancies that threaten the health of the mother.
00:09:32.940 We're talking about 7th month, 8th month, 9th month.
00:09:37.360 And Kamala Harris stated on stage that full-term abortions do not happen in the United States. 0.79
00:09:47.740 I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion?
00:09:52.400 I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade.
00:09:56.960 And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. 0.80
00:10:08.420 That is not happening.
00:10:09.440 It's insulting to the women of America. 1.00
00:10:12.020 That is not happening.
00:10:13.500 There are no full-term abortions in America.
00:10:17.060 So says Kamala Harris, and her statement has been echoed by the liberal press.
00:10:22.400 Now, but if you rewind just about a year and you turn to one of the most respected magazines in the liberal press, The Atlantic, you find this feature story.
00:10:34.880 The abortion absolutist, Warren Hearn, has been performing late abortions for half a century.
00:10:41.040 After Roe, he is as busy with patients as ever.
00:10:45.400 This is a really disturbing piece to read, and it's very much worth reading.
00:10:49.020 This is excellent journalism from The Atlantic.
00:10:50.780 You can see this guy who is fanatical about performing as many abortions as late in term as he can.
00:11:01.220 And he looks like the kind of fellow who would do that.
00:11:03.580 This is just from May 12, 2023.
00:11:06.420 I won't read the whole story.
00:11:08.400 I obviously don't have time.
00:11:09.460 But just to give you a little taste of it, Hearn is nearing his fifth decade of practice at his Boulder Clinic.
00:11:17.200 He has persisted through the entire arc of Roe v. Wade.
00:11:19.440 It's a nearly 50-year rise and fall.
00:11:20.960 He specializes in abortions late in pregnancy, the rarest and most controversial form of abortion.
00:11:25.300 This means that Hearn ends the pregnancies of women who are 22, 25, or even 30 weeks along, or further, actually, as the article will show us.
00:11:34.080 Although 14 states now ban abortion in most raw circumstances, Colorado has no gestational limits on the procedure.
00:11:41.200 And of course, we recall, though Kamala was trying to deny it, that states are liberalizing their abortion laws specifically to legalize abortion up until the moment of birth.
00:11:49.860 Patients come to him from all over the country.
00:11:52.480 Now, here's one of his clients.
00:11:54.440 I put my baby down, Kate Carson, who'd gotten an abortion at Hearn's Clinic in 2012, told me.
00:12:00.740 She'd been 35 weeks into a much-wanted pregnancy when her doctor diagnosed multiple brain anomalies.
00:12:10.100 Carson's daughter, the doctor said, would have trouble walking, talking, holding her head up, and swallowing.
00:12:14.000 So, my wife just gave birth a couple of months ago, two and a half months ago.
00:12:19.020 And happily, wonderful, perfectly healthy, it all went very well.
00:12:26.360 The baby was delivered a week early.
00:12:31.000 So, you're talking, what, 39 weeks?
00:12:33.900 And then you hold your baby.
00:12:35.220 And the moment, if you've, you know, ever, if you've given birth or your wife's given birth, you are so shocked because you say, oh, my goodness, that's a baby.
00:12:43.540 Somehow, you know, when the baby's in the belly, you think, oh, well, I don't know, what does he look like?
00:12:46.860 But then he comes out and you say, oh, my goodness, that's a baby.
00:12:49.800 At 35 weeks, the baby's just a baby.
00:12:53.540 The baby could easily be delivered at 35 weeks.
00:12:55.880 The baby would be absolutely fine at 35 weeks.
00:12:58.200 The baby looks like a baby, behaves like a baby, has all of the features of a baby.
00:13:01.940 By the way, we're not even talking about the sorts of disabilities that would result likely in immediate death or very early death.
00:13:09.340 We're talking about the baby would have trouble swallowing.
00:13:12.560 A baby might have trouble walking and talking.
00:13:14.360 So the full-term baby that is just a baby that plenty of people deliver at 35 weeks, she goes to this psycho, and this psycho gleefully chops up the baby. 0.95
00:13:27.500 Medical viability for a fetus or its ability to survive outside the uterus is generally considered to be somewhere from 24 to 28 weeks.
00:13:35.900 Hearn, though, believes that the viability of a fetus is determined not by gestational age but by a woman's willingness to carry it.
00:13:42.220 He applies the same principle to all of his prospective patients.
00:13:46.640 If he thinks it's safer for them to have an abortion than to carry and deliver their baby, he'll take the case, usually up until around 32 weeks, with some rarer later exceptions.
00:13:54.680 Not because the baby is then too much of a baby, but because of the increased risk of hemorrhage and other life-threatening conditions beyond that point to the woman.
00:14:02.820 Again, this is happening real late term.
00:14:08.380 People at 35 weeks, because your baby's not going to come out in a way that you imagine is totally perfect, that the baby might have some disabilities.
00:14:16.340 Even, by the way, if the baby were to have serious disabilities or to likely die in childhood or even in infancy or something, that still would not justify you yourself going in and killing the baby in a particularly gruesome way.
00:14:31.260 How it, it's not as though you can just erase the baby, you know, we pretend the baby never existed.
00:14:37.180 The baby exists.
00:14:39.660 And the baby is a baby.
00:14:41.940 The person's a person from the moment of conception.
00:14:43.920 But the baby looks much more and more and more like a baby later on into term.
00:14:48.320 And the liberal media are admitting that there are full-term babies being aborted in America.
00:14:57.840 Business is booming.
00:14:58.960 This doctor's busier than ever.
00:15:01.360 That's the Atlantic saying that.
00:15:02.820 That's not the Daily Wire.
00:15:03.980 That's not Breitbart.
00:15:05.040 That's not Fox News.
00:15:06.060 That's the Atlantic admitting that.
00:15:07.700 And Kamala Harris lied on stage.
00:15:10.680 And she couldn't even answer it in the hypothetical.
00:15:14.120 Would you support that?
00:15:15.320 This is not happening.
00:15:16.600 Yeah, yeah, but what?
00:15:17.640 I mean, it is.
00:15:18.360 But, and actually, Democrat governors are talking about it happening.
00:15:22.120 In fact, one Democrat governor talked about killing a baby after the baby was born.
00:15:25.100 And Democrat governors like Andy Cuomo in New York are changing the law to stop classifying the murder of a pregnant woman as a double homicide to legalize abortion up until the moment of birth.
00:15:35.500 So all these things are happening.
00:15:36.800 But okay, Kamala, even if they're not happening, would you support it in principle?
00:15:41.900 Would you support it in principle?
00:15:43.340 Would you support it in theory?
00:15:46.120 She says, well, it's not happening.
00:15:47.760 It's one of these little tests to see if someone is possible of abstract thought.
00:15:52.980 You'd say, hey, would you, I forget exactly how they phrase it.
00:16:00.860 It's become something of an internet meme.
00:16:02.540 But would you have had waffles for breakfast last Tuesday?
00:16:05.940 But I didn't have waffles for breakfast last Tuesday.
00:16:07.720 No, no, but would you, is it, are you possible, are you able to entertain a hypothetical?
00:16:11.420 The liberals will not entertain this hypothetical here because their position, the only consistent position they can hold, and the position that they do hold is, yes, they support, they support exactly what the Atlantic is describing here.
00:16:24.140 They support abortion up until the moment of birth.
00:16:27.440 And they won't, they can't admit it, so they have to lie about it.
00:16:30.140 That was, of all the lies that Kamala Harris said during the debate, that was probably the most egregious.
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00:17:17.660 Now, back to exposing Kamala's lies from the debate.
00:17:20.060 There's a great little tool from the Heritage Foundation, the wonderful Heritage Foundation,
00:17:24.960 which has put out a tool called the Personal Inflation Calculator.
00:17:28.880 You go to MyInflation.com.
00:17:30.900 I'm not going to totally go through it right now, but it's very, very simple.
00:17:34.640 You select your location, number of different cities in America or generally your region.
00:17:39.600 I live in the South.
00:17:41.400 Then you put in your monthly budget, groceries, restaurants, rent or mortgage, electricity,
00:17:46.340 gas, car payments, car insurance, all that kind of stuff.
00:17:50.540 Throw it in there.
00:17:51.160 You can also just click U.S. average or U.S. city average or U.S. suburban average or whatever.
00:17:57.960 Put it in there.
00:17:58.820 Then you compare present expenses to this date today.
00:18:04.980 So I just put in the U.S. average, the U.S. urban professional average for the South.
00:18:13.800 And I checked out the inflation.
00:18:17.000 Compared to January of 2021 when Biden took office, Biden-Harris took office,
00:18:22.060 people in the South who are urban professionals are paying on average $478 more per month for the
00:18:29.900 same goods and services, which is a percentage increase of 22.3%.
00:18:34.460 22.3% effective inflation over the course of the Biden administration.
00:18:41.900 And this is a really important number.
00:18:44.460 Three years and seven months.
00:18:46.080 This is no time.
00:18:47.540 22.3%.
00:18:49.180 That's a really important number because we hear these inflation numbers and we don't
00:18:53.260 really know what to do with them.
00:18:54.640 You know, at the height of inflation during the Biden administration, the number we heard
00:18:57.800 was about 9%.
00:18:58.760 9% inflation year over year.
00:19:00.540 Okay.
00:19:01.080 And then, oh, now inflation's come down.
00:19:02.620 Kamala was bragging about that at the debate.
00:19:04.880 Inflation's come down.
00:19:05.680 Okay, I'm glad it's come down from 9% year over year.
00:19:07.820 But that doesn't give the whole picture.
00:19:12.680 Because when we say inflation comes down, that doesn't mean that prices have come down.
00:19:16.160 Quite the opposite.
00:19:16.780 Prices continue to go up.
00:19:18.680 And when you compound the effect of that over three years, people who voted for Joe Biden,
00:19:24.380 well, I think a lot of people voted for Joe Biden because they were foreign nationals
00:19:27.700 or dead.
00:19:28.060 But the people who legitimately voted for Joe Biden perhaps did so because Trump is mean
00:19:35.200 and he makes fun of Mika Brzezinski's makeup or something and he tweets too much or whatever.
00:19:42.060 Okay.
00:19:43.740 What you got to ask your friends who are undecided in this election, who knows?
00:19:47.160 There's still 5% to 7% of voters who are perhaps undecided.
00:19:50.580 Are the mean tweets, is the lack of mean tweets worth 22.3% on your household budget?
00:20:02.300 Would you be willing to accept some mean tweets and world peace and a more secure country in
00:20:11.060 exchange for a 22.3% raise in terms of your household budget?
00:20:19.900 I think probably most people would say yes.
00:20:22.480 Myinflation.com, I think it's a great project from Heritage.
00:20:24.620 If you have any friends, any family who are on the fence, especially if they're in a swing state,
00:20:29.020 send them that calculator.
00:20:31.060 Make the awful effects of the Biden-Harris policies real for people.
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00:22:18.080 Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris.
00:22:21.200 She did so right after the debate.
00:22:22.780 We were all expecting this.
00:22:27.000 Taylor Swift is a big lib.
00:22:28.660 She endorsed Biden in 2020.
00:22:30.720 She was going to endorse Harris, probably.
00:22:33.800 But notice the way that she did it. 0.99
00:22:35.660 Well, okay, I'll read you what she said first.
00:22:39.060 And then I'll point out something odd about the way she did it.
00:22:44.160 She says, Kamala fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
00:22:48.580 I think she's a steady-handed, gifted leader.
00:22:50.320 And I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we're led by calm, not chaos.
00:22:54.180 Like many of you, I watched the debate tonight.
00:22:55.880 If you haven't already, now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances
00:22:59.380 these candidates take on the topics that matter most to you.
00:23:02.140 As a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can about their proposed policies
00:23:05.960 and plans for this country.
00:23:07.200 Recently, I was made aware of AI of me, falsely endorsing Donald Trump's presidential run,
00:23:11.680 posted to this site, really conjured up my fears around AI and misinformation,
00:23:15.920 brought me to the conclusion that I need to be transparent about my actual plans for this
00:23:19.160 election as a voter.
00:23:20.260 The simplest way to combat misinformation is with the truth.
00:23:22.360 She goes on and on.
00:23:23.060 I'm not going to read the whole thing.
00:23:24.000 With love and hope, Taylor Swift, childless cat lady.
00:23:28.100 Okay.
00:23:28.400 So some now are responding and saying, ah, this is Trump's fault.
00:23:33.100 Had he not, had he and his followers not posted AI of Swifties for Trump,
00:23:37.840 maybe she would have stayed out of the race. 1.00
00:23:39.880 Give me a break.
00:23:42.800 Oh, did Trump post AI pictures in 2020 when she endorsed Biden, who was half dead?
00:23:46.960 Give me a break.
00:23:48.340 She was always going to endorse Kamala.
00:23:50.340 This is the excuse to make it seem as though she had to endorse,
00:23:54.180 to, to temper her political activism, make it sort of an aw shucks. 1.00
00:23:59.340 I'm just trying to set the record straight kind of a thing.
00:24:03.420 Likewise, it had nothing to do with either party's performance at the debate.
00:24:06.640 Perhaps if Kamala had just collapsed on stage like Biden, perhaps Taylor Swift would have held off.
00:24:12.160 But this was not about the debate.
00:24:14.020 She, she had to wait for the, this debate because she had to at least pretend that she was waiting to hear from both candidates.
00:24:24.720 Kamala Harris didn't run for president in the 2024 primary. 0.90
00:24:27.720 There was a palace coup that installed her. 0.96
00:24:29.660 So she had to hold off her, she probably held off her endorsement of Biden because so many people were suggesting Biden would be swapped off the ticket.
00:24:36.400 So this was not a matter of will Taylor endorse.
00:24:39.640 This was certainly not a matter of who will Taylor endorse.
00:24:41.700 It was simply a matter of timing.
00:24:45.700 But Taylor was a little bit cautious about it.
00:24:49.120 She was not over the top.
00:24:50.600 She was not effusive, even as probably the most popular Democrat on earth right now. 0.96
00:24:56.360 She did her duty, but that was it.
00:24:59.820 Then President Trump reacted to the endorsement.
00:25:02.620 Out of nowhere, after the debate last night, Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris.
00:25:07.080 What do you think?
00:25:07.680 Well, I actually like Mrs. 0.99
00:25:13.820 I actually like Mrs. 0.99
00:25:15.760 Mahomes much better, if you want to know the truth.
00:25:18.420 She's a, she's a big Trump fan.
00:25:20.460 I was not a Taylor Swift fan.
00:25:22.320 It was just a question of time.
00:25:23.980 She couldn't, you couldn't possibly endorse Biden.
00:25:27.460 You look at Biden, you couldn't possibly endorse him.
00:25:29.660 But she's a very liberal person.
00:25:31.360 She seems to always endorse a Democrat and she'll probably, probably pay a price for it at the, in the marketplace. 0.85
00:25:38.700 But no, I, I like Brittany.
00:25:41.240 I think Brittany's great.
00:25:42.380 Brittany was got a lot of news last week.
00:25:44.180 She's a big, she's a big MAGA fan.
00:25:46.280 That's the one I like much better than Taylor Swift.
00:25:48.700 Right.
00:25:49.320 Yeah.
00:25:50.340 Brittany is, uh, Mahomes.
00:25:52.420 Yeah.
00:25:52.720 They're Mahomes.
00:25:53.620 They're great friends.
00:25:54.760 The wife of the great quarterback.
00:25:56.180 And he is a great quarterback.
00:25:57.280 My favorite team from Kansas City.
00:25:59.140 I think, I think she's terrific.
00:26:01.020 I love it.
00:26:02.040 You know, for the people who say Trump's not disciplined or Trump, uh, it takes personal slights to, uh, to intensely.
00:26:10.000 And he, you know, here you have the most famous woman in the world coming out against Donald Trump with all these little jabs, the childless cat lady, whatever.
00:26:19.380 And Trump does not go after Taylor Swift, which, which would be unnecessary and probably unproductive.
00:26:26.040 He says, uh, you know, I like Brittany Mahomes actually. 0.61
00:26:29.480 Yeah.
00:26:29.800 She's more my speed. 0.92
00:26:31.240 Taylor's a big Democrat.
00:26:32.220 That's okay.
00:26:33.220 It might hurt her, but you know, that's okay.
00:26:35.060 But I like Brittany Mahomes. 1.00
00:26:36.080 This is a perfect answer.
00:26:38.300 Okay.
00:26:38.660 Yeah.
00:26:38.820 This was already baked in.
00:26:39.920 Taylor Swift was going to endorse a Democrat.
00:26:41.940 Let's move on.
00:26:43.720 You know, Taylor, she was kind of slow about it.
00:26:45.740 She couldn't endorse Biden.
00:26:47.100 She's kind of okay.
00:26:48.180 No big deal.
00:26:49.280 Other celebrities, by the way, forget about Taylor Swift.
00:26:51.740 Other celebrities won't even do it.
00:26:54.300 Usher just went on ABC, you know, the liberal station that hosted the debate.
00:26:59.720 He went on The View, this unbearable left-wing show.
00:27:03.560 And Joy Behar tried her best to get Usher, another beloved cultural figure, to endorse Kamala Harris.
00:27:12.360 Here's what he said.
00:27:12.920 I always say that in this emergency that we're in, I think that who's artist to come out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump?
00:27:21.180 Because he is an existential threat to the country.
00:27:23.680 What do you say to that?
00:27:24.720 You know what?
00:27:25.100 I don't get too deep into politics.
00:27:26.860 I didn't get a chance to watch the debate last night.
00:27:28.780 I obviously have been watching like everybody else.
00:27:32.460 I think voting is an individual choice.
00:27:35.180 And I think that you're right.
00:27:36.700 You have to look at the reality of the country that we are and the country that we want to be.
00:27:42.460 And find the candidate that you feel both are, who fits the category of where we want to be.
00:27:49.860 And that's it.
00:27:50.980 And that's what you vote based off of.
00:27:52.900 Who you highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever platform you have is your prerogative.
00:27:59.620 Yes.
00:28:00.880 Yeah.
00:28:01.420 Beautiful.
00:28:01.980 Yeah, but Usher, you were supposed to endorse Kamala. 0.98
00:28:05.780 Why won't you endorse Kamala?
00:28:07.380 Yeah, no thanks.
00:28:08.680 I'm good.
00:28:09.860 And Usher's so smooth.
00:28:11.320 You know, he's so cool.
00:28:12.060 Yeah, no, that's okay, actually.
00:28:13.900 Thank you, though.
00:28:15.060 No, but you have to.
00:28:16.080 It's really important, don't you think?
00:28:17.660 Yeah, politics is real important.
00:28:19.460 I'm not going to endorse, though.
00:28:20.340 Ha ha.
00:28:21.100 Sorry.
00:28:22.180 He's all smooth and moving around.
00:28:24.240 Now, Usher has endorsed candidates before.
00:28:26.880 He endorsed Obama.
00:28:27.700 It's not that he's totally opposed ever to endorsing a politician.
00:28:31.400 This is not Michael Jordan.
00:28:32.600 Even Republicans buy sneakers.
00:28:33.800 I'm going to shut up on politics.
00:28:35.160 Totally.
00:28:36.500 This is Usher saying, yeah, Kamala, she ain't it. 1.00
00:28:41.360 I'm not staking my career on Kamala Harris. 0.83
00:28:45.800 I don't think that endorsing Kamala Harris is going to help me at all.
00:28:51.160 And I don't think the good of the country calls for it.
00:28:54.760 Usher is supporting Kamala.
00:28:56.900 I think he says in the interview that he's going to vote for Kamala.
00:29:00.200 But he won't go as far as to say, you should vote for Kamala.
00:29:05.620 He ain't campaigning with her.
00:29:06.920 He won't even say on TV, go vote for Kamala.
00:29:09.000 Why?
00:29:10.500 Why not?
00:29:13.220 What's the benefit to him?
00:29:17.260 You know, celebrities are very savvy politicians, especially celebrities like Usher or Taylor Swift, who have endured for many, many years.
00:29:27.960 Usher's been around longer than Taylor Swift.
00:29:29.540 These people, they know what works in the marketplace.
00:29:35.320 They know how to get people to like them.
00:29:37.240 They know what's popular.
00:29:38.220 The fact that Taylor dragged her feet on the endorsement, the fact that she blamed Trump for the endorsement, she gave herself an excuse.
00:29:47.380 Oh, no, I'm only doing this because Trump, you know, posted an AI picture or something.
00:29:51.920 She had to give herself an out.
00:29:53.080 The fact that Usher asked point blank, says, yeah, I'm not endorsing Kamala.
00:29:58.760 Well, it makes you think about that New York Times article at the top of the show.
00:30:01.580 So maybe the Democrats are doing a little bit worse than the pundit class is saying that they are.
00:30:08.100 Maybe Trump, after everything, after everything, after the lies and the calumny and the investigations and the Russia hoax and the multiple attempted impeachments and the assassination attempt, and after all of that, maybe he's a little more durable and a little more popular among Americans than someone have us believe.
00:30:28.040 And maybe the celebrities are a barometer of that.
00:30:30.240 Now, speaking of celebrities, Will Ferrell is making a movie.
00:30:36.220 I mentioned this a week or two ago on the show.
00:30:38.160 He's making a movie with Netflix that is not a comedy.
00:30:41.440 It's a drag movie, but it's not a comedy.
00:30:43.520 It's this, it's his buddy who was a writer on SNL came out as transgender and decided he was going to be a woman one day.
00:30:51.140 And it's Will Ferrell and this guy going on a road trip, talking very seriously about transgenderism.
00:30:55.940 So as part of the tour for this movie, Will Ferrell is being forced to confront the many, many times he wore drag as a punchline on the comedy show that he starred in, Saturday Night Live.
00:31:12.120 He was asked if he would wear the drag again.
00:31:15.860 And this is in a conversation with the transvestite that he's doing the movie with.
00:31:20.980 He's asked, would you do that today?
00:31:22.680 And his answer, absolutely not.
00:31:25.760 The Janet Reno character hits a false note now.
00:31:29.840 Yeah, that's something, yeah.
00:31:32.720 I wouldn't choose to do now.
00:31:34.680 This kind of bums me out, though.
00:31:36.140 This is something that I actually feel a little bit differently about it.
00:31:39.240 I understand the laugh is a drag laugh. 1.00
00:31:42.860 It's the, hey, look at this guy, he's got no dress and that's funny.
00:31:45.820 And it's absolutely not funny.
00:31:47.680 It's absolutely a way that we should be able to live in the world.
00:31:51.660 However, with performers and actors, I do like a sense of play.
00:31:58.660 This is an interesting question to me.
00:32:01.720 Do queer people like the birdcage or do they not like it? 1.00
00:32:06.660 And Robin Williams, at least as far as we know, was not a gay man.
00:32:12.800 And yet he spent about a half of his comedy career doing a swishy gay guy on camera. 0.98
00:32:20.360 Do people think that that's funny or is it just hurtful?
00:32:23.760 And I've heard from gay men that it was funny and I've heard from gay men that it was very hurtful. 0.97
00:32:27.920 And I understand both.
00:32:29.380 I just sometimes I wonder if, and I'm the most woke.
00:32:33.660 I am accusably purple haired woke.
00:32:36.660 Um, I'm telling you, uh, but I do wonder if sometimes we take away the joy of playing when we take away some of the range that some performers, especially comedy performers can do.
00:32:50.800 Wow.
00:32:53.640 Between Will Ferrell, a regular old comedian, and this guy whose name I forget, who is a man dressing as a woman, making a whole movie about how seriously he's a woman.
00:33:06.100 And it's the latter who's the voice of reason in this conversation.
00:33:10.360 Will Ferrell, I would, I would not, I would not play Janet Reno today.
00:33:13.280 I would not absolutely, I would not do the drag bits today on it's not funny. 1.00
00:33:17.820 And then the transvestite says, no, I mean, it's kind of funny, isn't it? 1.00
00:33:23.080 Like, I know we're supposed to take it super seriously and I'm really a woman and everything, but like, it's funny.
00:33:28.260 It's a punchline.
00:33:29.200 Of course it's funny.
00:33:30.840 Of course it's funny.
00:33:32.000 You know, I, I was an actor in my youth.
00:33:36.180 I was an actor.
00:33:37.560 I, I played Liz Warren during a bit on the daily wire, you know, put a little blonde wig on and pretended to be an Indian eating powwow chow. 0.99
00:33:47.440 I did that because it's funny.
00:33:48.900 I've played all sorts of roles.
00:33:50.380 Okay.
00:33:50.780 I've played, uh, I played a gay guy that which the libs never, never want me to live down.
00:33:56.040 I played football players.
00:33:58.080 I've played Judas Iscariot.
00:34:00.100 I've played the devil himself.
00:34:02.380 Okay.
00:34:03.120 Actors play all sorts of roles.
00:34:04.680 Will Ferrell played Janet Reno.
00:34:08.580 The, the roles that are comedic, well, all roles are a performance of fiction, right?
00:34:13.680 You are living truthfully, but in imaginary circumstances, but the comedic roles are, are there to make you laugh.
00:34:20.360 It's, it's funny that Will Ferrell plays Janet Reno.
00:34:24.980 It's, it's incongruous for a man to be wearing a dress. 0.99
00:34:27.900 That is an intrinsically funny thing.
00:34:30.980 I, I, there's obviously no problem with that.
00:34:33.480 Even the guy who has the trans identity is saying there's no problem with Will Ferrell playing Janet Reno.
00:34:38.280 It's funny, man.
00:34:39.140 It's funny.
00:34:39.620 Lighten up.
00:34:40.440 Even gay guys say it's funny. 0.70
00:34:42.040 Even transvestites say it's funny. 1.00
00:34:43.700 Come on, lighten up everybody.
00:34:45.560 So what's the problem?
00:34:46.800 Why do people have a problem with this now?
00:34:49.240 The problem is not a man wearing a dress and a funny little TV sketch.
00:34:55.920 The problem is when we confuse the TV sketch for reality.
00:34:59.760 The problem, the problem isn't with acting.
00:35:02.120 Okay.
00:35:02.720 It's not with the theater or, or movies.
00:35:05.600 The problem is when we confuse the stage for reality, the movies for reality, then it, then
00:35:13.400 it's not funny anymore because in order to laugh at comedy, we have to be grounded in reality.
00:35:19.160 And then we need to, you know, jokes are never funnier than when you explain them, but you
00:35:23.500 need to be able to perceive some chasm between what is being depicted and what is true, what
00:35:31.160 is real.
00:35:32.160 The incongruity between the performance and objective reality is one of the things, one
00:35:39.040 of the main things that makes us laugh.
00:35:40.900 We have, we haven't lost that perception totally because human beings still have faculties of
00:35:45.000 reason, but we deny that faculty.
00:35:47.580 We, we deny that perception.
00:35:49.260 And so people are humorless now up to and including one of the most famous comedians of his age,
00:35:54.200 Will Ferrell.
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00:36:18.900 My favorite comment yesterday is from Kegel Destroyer, who says, Trump missed a few easy
00:36:23.520 verbal wins, but he did okay.
00:36:25.080 Yeah, that basically is my take of, from the debate.
00:36:28.260 Yeah, there were a few moments, it would have been great.
00:36:30.160 Yeah, it was three on one.
00:36:31.240 Yeah, you know, the coverage is slanted.
00:36:33.680 But, you know, he did, he did, in terms of the practical effect of the debate, he did pretty
00:36:39.920 good. He did as well as he could have done, just about. It would have been better, I guess,
00:36:46.280 if Kamala had, you know, started speaking gibberish and, you know, melted into a puddle 0.97
00:36:50.900 on stage. But that's not in Trump's control. Yeah, he did fine.
00:36:54.020 Now, speaking of good stuff coming out of celebrities, not from Will Ferrell, but at least
00:37:01.720 the transgender guy, you know, at least he had some sense of reality. Well, Vanity Fair 1.00
00:37:08.380 has a story out about some really good stuff happening among celebrities, which is that
00:37:12.580 celebrities are conspicuously converting to Christianity. Specifically, they're becoming
00:37:18.420 Catholic. And this is how Vanity Fair is reporting on this. Bad faith, that's what they're calling
00:37:24.600 the segment. Behind the Catholic rights celebrity conversion industrial complex. Goes on to list 0.51
00:37:34.560 all these celebrities who have recently converted to the Catholic Church. Goes on to suggest that
00:37:41.920 this is a big PR problem for the Catholic Church. Goes on to suggest that the Catholic Church
00:37:46.240 is chasing these people. You know, like we're trying to sell them on something. It's so funny,
00:37:50.540 Shia LaBeouf, one of the most famous people who's converted recently, he was doing an interview with
00:37:55.180 Bishop Barron. And he said, I love the traditional Latin mass. And Bishop Barron asked, why do you love
00:38:01.340 the traditional Latin mass? And he says, because I felt like no one was trying to sell me anything.
00:38:06.300 So ironically, one of the figures that Vanity Fair is profiling here says, no, no, the reason I converted
00:38:12.100 is in large part because I wasn't being sold on anything. So why do these people convert? I'm not
00:38:18.720 going to go in and try to read all of their minds, but I suspect a big part of it is they are persuaded
00:38:25.480 through their reason that it's true. They are attracted through the senses to its beauty. And
00:38:32.300 they are inspired as a matter of virtue and the natural law inscribed in every human heart
00:38:39.900 by its goodness and sanctity. You know, one holy, Catholic, and apostolic. Those are the four marks
00:38:45.900 of the church. I think I'll make it simpler. I think these people convert because it's true. 1.00
00:38:54.300 I think that's why people convert. And there are all sorts of other reasons for it that go along with
00:38:59.840 it. But I think that's the basic one. I looked into this author who wrote this hit piece on the
00:39:05.440 church and on Christianity. And this author has written just two books. Both of those books are
00:39:11.680 harangues against Christians, not just Catholics, but just professing Christians broadly.
00:39:18.360 People convert because they're convinced something is true. There is not much. Look, sometimes in
00:39:27.640 society, there can be social advantages that go along with holding certain positions, like becoming a
00:39:33.720 Democrat. There are social privileges that go along with being a Democrat. You'll fit in more in the
00:39:41.300 elite halls of power, in country clubs, at school, in work. You will be more likely to be promoted, perhaps,
00:39:50.900 because you say all the right things that the people in power want you to say. There are social benefits
00:39:56.120 that go along with that. There are not really social benefits that go along with becoming a Catholic.
00:40:03.720 Certainly not with becoming a conservative Catholic. Maybe a Joe Biden type of Catholic or a Kennedy
00:40:10.920 type of Catholic will be okay, but certainly not a right-wing Catholic, which is what the article is
00:40:15.560 taking issue with. Also, this is America. This is a country that was founded in explicitly Protestant 0.94
00:40:23.480 terms. So, you know, one person that they bring up is J.D. Vance. Ah, yes, J.D. Vance is, I think they're
00:40:31.540 insinuating that these people are converting in cynical ways. Well, what benefit does J.D. Vance, a United States
00:40:41.040 Senator from Ohio, have if he converts to Catholicism? Wouldn't he be much more politically viable if he were, I don't
00:40:51.000 know, an evangelical Protestant or something, or non-denominational, or what, you know, wouldn't.
00:40:56.720 Protestantism is much more politically viable in America. Why did he convert? I think he converted
00:41:01.140 because he just thinks it's true. I think that's why people convert generally. And that's the one
00:41:06.240 thing these libs never seem to understand when they write about, even beyond religion, when they write
00:41:14.160 about why Republicans vote Republican, why, especially why Trump voters vote for Trump, why conservatives
00:41:20.560 think the way that they think, why, why Christians go to church. They always write in terms of psychobabble. 0.99
00:41:29.940 Well, because of this mental irritation that's going on, because of this neurosis that they have,
00:41:36.760 because of their respective levels of anxiety and trepidation, and they never write philosophically.
00:41:46.140 They never write theologically. They never suggest, huh, maybe we did this because we think it's true.
00:41:57.140 When I reverted to the church, I was an atheist for 10 years. There were plenty of things I was doing
00:42:02.460 that I no longer could do in good conscience. All right? One gives up things when one returns to
00:42:12.660 the faith. You know, young man, maybe I like to go out and have a couple of Coca-Colas, you know,
00:42:17.920 stay out real late, hang around, maybe in my single days, maybe go, you know, date around some nice
00:42:25.880 ladies and things and not take it all seriously, not really think about it in terms of marriage. And 1.00
00:42:30.380 well, you can't, you can't behave that way anymore. Even down to gluttony, even down to wrath, even
00:42:36.300 down to using naughty language, even down to all the, there are a lot of things that we do that
00:42:39.980 we're accustomed to that you have to give up. But what does our Lord say in the gospel? He says,
00:42:46.180 take my yoke upon you. My yoke is easy and my burden is light. Because either you have the yoke of
00:42:52.720 sin and vice and all the sorts of bad stuff that we pretend makes us free, but actually enslaves us.
00:42:57.240 Or you take on the yoke of righteousness in our Lord. But you do have to, when you want to sin,
00:43:08.700 you got to give stuff up. When you want to become religious, you got to give stuff up too.
00:43:13.400 The question is, what are you giving up and what happens to you in exchange for that?
00:43:17.680 There are all sorts of reasons for all sorts of temptations not to convert. Okay. The biggest
00:43:28.200 reason that gets people to convert is they just conclude it's true. But then of course,
00:43:34.100 the liberal journalists at places like Vanity Fair, they don't even believe that truth really
00:43:38.180 exists. Okay. That's fine. But I see all these sorts of headlines. Catholic conversions hit record
00:43:44.980 highs around the Capitol. Oxford Oratory adapts to increase in conversion sacraments. The reason
00:43:50.500 why adult baptisms have increased in LA and beyond. NCR talking about all the new converts. Something
00:43:58.120 is happening in our culture. I don't, even as the atheists and the leftists clamp down more and more
00:44:07.980 in their power and they lock people up for protesting them and they prosecute their political enemies and
00:44:12.360 they start spying on churches. And even as they do that, it seems ironically, paradoxically, that
00:44:19.840 the conversions continue to grow. Conversions will grow until morale improves. Now, speaking of
00:44:26.000 switching sides, there is politically a spate of Democrats who are switching sides, including now a
00:44:35.040 California former Democrat state senator switching to the GOP. We will get to that and so much more a
00:44:41.980 little bit later. I've run out of time, but you know, I'm a tease. So the rest of the show continues
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00:44:49.420 all annual plans.
00:44:50.580 Republicans or Nazis, you cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. Growing up, I never thought much about race. Never really seemed to matter that much. At least not to me. Am I racist? I would really appreciate it if you love. I'm trying to learn. I'm on this journey. I'm going to sort this out. I need to go deeper undercover.
00:45:18.900 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert. Here's my certifications. What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. This is more for you than this for you. Is America inherently racist? The word inherent is challenging there. I want to rename the George Washington
00:45:35.060 Monument to the George Floyd Monument. America is racist to its bones. So inherently. Yeah, this country is a piece of...
00:45:41.060 White. Folks. White. Trash. White supremacy. White woman. White boy. Is there a black person around here? What's a black person right here? Does he not exist?
00:45:51.520 Hi, Robin. Hi. What's your name? I'm Matt. I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful. Never be too careful. They gonna say you racist.
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