The Michael Knowles Show - May 21, 2018


Ep. 159 - I Spy…Democrats Threatening Our Republic!

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Coffin Corner Boys book
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Michael Knowles
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Barack Obama Donald Trump Hillary Clinton James Comey George W. Bush George Strait John Brennan Carol Engel-Avriette Mueller Steele Ben Shapiro Show Stephen Halper Vladimir Putin Loretta Lynch Richard Nixon Ronald Reagan Meghan Markle David Bowie Andrew Lawton Show Ben E. King and 31 more
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As the Mueller investigation into Roger Stone's niece's lemonade stand enters its fifth decade, the White House is finally pushing back, as it should. The more we learn about the Russia investigation, the clearer it becomes that it s a farce, initiated by Barack Obama s corrupt, crooked machine administration. We will analyze the facts as they stand today, but they seem always to be changing. Then, Google stops telling its employees not to be evil. We ll analyze what that means for conservatives, and the incredible stories of American soldiers escaping Nazi-occupied France on this day in history. And if we have time, we ll talk about the royal wedding.

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00:00:00.000 I spy with my little eye.
00:00:03.320 Democrats threatening our republic.
00:00:05.560 As the Mueller investigation into Roger Stone's niece's lemonade stand from 1996
00:00:10.200 enters into its fifth decade, the White House is finally pushing back.
00:00:14.280 As it should, because the more we learn about the Russia investigation,
00:00:17.980 the clearer it becomes that it's a farce initiated by Barack Obama's corrupt, 0.95
00:00:22.960 crooked machine administration.
00:00:24.840 We will analyze the facts as they stand today.
00:00:27.220 They seem always to be changing, but we'll analyze what we have.
00:00:30.480 Then Google stops telling its employees not to be evil.
00:00:34.940 We're going to analyze what that means for conservatives.
00:00:37.580 Starbucks goes full homeless shanty, what that says about our culture,
00:00:41.480 and the incredible stories of American soldiers escaping Nazi-occupied France on this day in history.
00:00:47.840 And if we have time, we'll talk about the royal wedding.
00:00:50.340 Gosh, it was awful.
00:00:51.640 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:00:52.520 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:57.220 So much to get to today, beginning with just eviscerating the Obama administration. 0.67
00:01:06.700 Day after day, we realize how corrupt and crooked all of them right up to the top were.
00:01:11.660 We'll also be joined later by Carol Engel-Avriette,
00:01:14.740 the author alongside 94-year-old World War II captain George Starks of a new book,
00:01:20.460 The Coffin Corner Boys, One Bomber, Ten Men, and Their Harrowing Escape from Nazi-Occupied France.
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00:03:24.080 So there is a lot going on here.
00:03:26.340 You might have seen the tweet over the weekend from Donald Trump.
00:03:28.920 President Trump tweeted out.
00:03:30.620 He goes, quote, I hereby demand and will do so officially tomorrow that the Department
00:03:35.380 of Justice look into whether or not the FBI slash DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump
00:03:41.640 campaign for political purposes and if any such demands or requests were made by people
00:03:47.220 within the Obama administration.
00:03:49.620 Now, this caused me to remember one of my favorite Obama tweets.
00:03:53.040 He tweeted this a while ago. 0.80
00:03:54.740 It's just the absolute incredible troll levels of Barack Obama.
00:03:58.920 It's a photo. 0.94
00:03:59.660 It's a photo of him with a magnifying glass looking in at a girl.
00:04:03.440 And the tweet just says, I spy dot dot dot.
00:04:07.560 He told you right there, you know, as he said, he did it.
00:04:11.520 He so he tweets that.
00:04:15.500 Finally, Donald Trump is getting really hard.
00:04:17.440 I think the timing here is important.
00:04:19.300 But for a long time, we've been told, look, the Mueller investigation, it's just the FBI.
00:04:23.380 They're not politically motivated.
00:04:24.800 It's objective.
00:04:25.940 They're just trying to get to the facts.
00:04:27.360 Nobody is politically motivated here.
00:04:29.620 Come, nobody's stealing the election.
00:04:31.480 Come, nobody's blah, blah, blah.
00:04:33.180 In fact, when Donald Trump suggested on the campaign trail that there might be some shenanigans
00:04:38.240 going on behind the scene, Hillary Clinton vigorously denied those rigged election claims. 0.85
00:04:43.520 Here is campaign Hillary. 0.99
00:04:45.880 It's horrifying.
00:04:47.240 You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is, is rigged against him.
00:04:55.600 The FBI conducted a year long investigation into my emails.
00:04:59.460 They concluded there was no case.
00:05:01.580 He said the FBI was rigged.
00:05:03.480 This is a mindset.
00:05:05.020 This is this is how Donald thinks.
00:05:07.560 And it's funny, but it's also really troubling.
00:05:10.760 Really troubling, terrifying, horrifying.
00:05:15.100 By the way, we'll get into how the FBI handled Hillary versus how the FBI handled Donald Trump because it is night and day.
00:05:22.840 And it's total evidence that Hillary Clinton was lying through her teeth here. 1.00
00:05:25.920 It's ironic, of course, because immediately after the election, she says it's all rigged.
00:05:30.280 It's all terrible.
00:05:31.620 This wasn't even a one off line.
00:05:33.320 This wasn't even just something she said on on the debate stage.
00:05:37.020 Hillary Clinton kept lecturing people.
00:05:39.040 Here she is at a campaign rally.
00:05:41.920 On Wednesday night, Donald Trump did something no other presidential nominee has ever done.
00:05:48.840 He refused to say that he would respect the results of this election.
00:05:56.080 Now, make no mistake.
00:05:59.260 By doing that, he is threatening our democracy.
00:06:04.280 Look, if you lose an election, I've lost elections.
00:06:07.540 You don't feel very good the next day, do you?
00:06:11.580 But we know in our country the difference between leadership and dictatorship, right?
00:06:22.320 What she didn't tell you is that she's the dictator. 1.00
00:06:25.320 It kind of sounds in that clip like she's saying, you know, I prefer democracy.
00:06:29.780 No, no, no.
00:06:30.680 Because immediately after the election, when she lost, she went, you know, before she said,
00:06:35.800 well, look, sometimes people lose.
00:06:38.240 You got to lose.
00:06:39.140 You got to deal with it.
00:06:39.980 Then after she lost, I believe she said, if I could quote correctly,
00:06:43.480 I might be paraphrasing.
00:06:49.200 She starts to blame everybody.
00:06:51.060 She says that Russia rigged the election.
00:06:53.240 She undermined the legitimacy of that election. 0.94
00:06:55.720 She implied that it was illegitimate.
00:06:58.040 What is she doing now? 0.98
00:06:58.920 We're now, what, two years in?
00:07:00.880 Almost two years in.
00:07:02.120 She keeps flying overseas, criticizing the administration, criticizing Donald Trump,
00:07:08.100 saying, you know, that he's undermining the U.S. on the world stage,
00:07:12.560 that she doesn't support the policy of her own country.
00:07:14.520 Really unpatriotic stuff.
00:07:15.560 She's one of the best among them, as far as undermining the Republican administration goes. 1.00
00:07:22.140 She's positively restrained compared to other leading Democrats.
00:07:26.660 Her husband's former vice president, Al Gore, he just recently told University of Maryland
00:07:31.740 graduates at their commencement that Donald Trump needs to be removed from office forcibly.
00:07:37.020 Here he is.
00:07:37.480 And I get it.
00:07:39.660 There are, I know, a great many supporters of President Trump in this audience.
00:07:45.820 I do understand that.
00:07:49.520 As one of his supporters put it on television,
00:07:53.360 he said, the way I look at it, Donald Trump is chemotherapy for America.
00:07:59.460 Well, in medicine and in science, some experiments are terminated early for ethical reasons.
00:08:12.240 Zing. 0.88
00:08:13.260 Good one, Al.
00:08:14.660 You get it?
00:08:15.940 Terminated early for ethical reasons.
00:08:18.200 So, not a great joke.
00:08:19.740 Didn't really land.
00:08:21.200 But, also interesting to hear, he says, I know some of you support the president.
00:08:25.620 We're at University of Maryland.
00:08:26.840 This is not exactly a conservative campus, you know, a big state school, East Coast.
00:08:31.580 And yet, when he said that, people start cheering.
00:08:34.560 You're, yeah, you're right, buddy, because Donald Trump is doing well.
00:08:38.400 He's got good approval ratings.
00:08:40.440 Everything is going well, domestically and overseas,
00:08:43.860 other than the ginned-up controversies that the federal bureaucracy and the Democrats keep trying to throw on him.
00:08:49.160 But, in reality, things are going very well.
00:08:51.180 But, then he says, sometimes, in science, treatment has to be terminated early for ethical reasons.
00:09:02.000 Now, what he's saying, he's trying to make a joke, but he's also saying something.
00:09:04.920 We need to terminate this presidency early.
00:09:07.820 We need to do it.
00:09:08.920 We lost the election, but we can't tolerate that we lost the election.
00:09:11.960 We can't abide that.
00:09:13.660 The American people wanted something, but we know it's not good for them.
00:09:16.720 We know it's not good.
00:09:17.660 So, we need to terminate it early.
00:09:19.720 And this is part and parcel of Democrats' strategy to try to impeach the president.
00:09:24.340 This is not a conspiracy.
00:09:25.860 This is not, to quote Hillary Clinton, a vast right-wing conspiracy.
00:09:29.060 Democrats have been speaking openly and holding press conferences about how they want to impeach the president.
00:09:34.000 Why?
00:09:34.560 I don't know, because they don't like him, because they just don't like him that much.
00:09:38.160 Here we have Representative Steve Cohen talking about how they're going to impeach the president.
00:09:42.100 I'm proud to stand here with my friend, Congressman Gutierrez, with other congresspeople who will be here and announcing that we're introducing articles of impeachment to remove President Trump from office.
00:09:53.220 There will be, I believe, six signatories on the resolution.
00:09:58.200 Democrats only respect elections when Democrats win.
00:10:01.220 That's when they respect elections.
00:10:03.160 Democrats only respect democracy when Democrats win democratic elections.
00:10:07.400 It's as simple as that.
00:10:09.000 They do not respect the electoral process.
00:10:11.220 In fact, the Democrats have been trying to subvert the electoral process since long before this election.
00:10:17.360 We know that now.
00:10:18.500 They denied it at the time.
00:10:19.820 They lied to our faces at the time, all the way up to the top.
00:10:23.240 But now we know that.
00:10:25.260 Bombshell information now shows that Barack Obama's FBI interfered with and spied on Donald Trump's campaign much earlier than anybody thought.
00:10:34.200 We know that the FBI planted a spy in the Trump campaign.
00:10:39.240 We have evidence of that.
00:10:41.220 They've been denying it the whole time.
00:10:43.260 Now it's just slowly over the last year and a half, it's chiseled away at their narrative. 0.99
00:10:47.800 They are liars. 0.99
00:10:50.000 They have no credibility. 0.99
00:10:51.420 When they open their mouths, James Comey, Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, when they open their mouths, there is no reason to believe a word that comes out of them. 0.99
00:10:59.280 They are public liars. 0.98
00:11:00.620 So we know that. 0.71
00:11:02.660 We also know that James Comey lied about when the Russia investigation started.
00:11:07.880 James Comey said that the Russia investigation began in late July 2016.
00:11:12.340 Okay, what was that based on?
00:11:14.740 In part, I suppose it's based on that Steele dossier, which was totally ginned up and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and by Democrats.
00:11:21.680 So we see collusion there between the Democrats and the FBI.
00:11:24.500 But now we know that an FBI informant who has been outed, according to reports, as Cambridge University professor Stephen Halper, that FBI informant started reporting to the FBI in early July 2016.
00:11:39.760 Totally undercuts James Comey.
00:11:41.980 And we know that James Comey lied about this.
00:11:44.500 He says the investigation began in late July.
00:11:47.080 And yet the FBI's informant, they snuck into the Trump campaign to spy on it.
00:11:51.460 That guy was reporting back to the FBI by early July.
00:11:55.120 The timelines don't add up.
00:11:56.820 Who is this guy?
00:11:57.720 Who is Halper?
00:11:59.060 Professor Halper is a longstanding Republican.
00:12:03.000 Halper worked in the Nixon administration, the Ford administration, the Reagan administration.
00:12:06.940 And this guy was sent in by the FBI to spy on Trump employee Carter Page and campaign employee George Papadopoulos.
00:12:16.440 He went in there and spied on both of those guys.
00:12:19.100 Now, did he just do it out of the goodness of his heart?
00:12:21.640 No.
00:12:22.800 We know that the FBI paid Halper, the federal government paid Halper, $411,000 between 2016 and 2017.
00:12:32.660 To put that in perspective, that's more than the annual salary of the president of the United States.
00:12:37.780 Well, it's much more than the annual salary of the current president of the United States, who doesn't take any money for his job.
00:12:42.780 He takes a dollar a year or something.
00:12:44.440 But the president, by law, is supposed to make $400,000 a year.
00:12:48.640 This FBI informant was paid $411,000 between 2016 and 2017.
00:12:53.740 What was he doing for that?
00:12:55.420 Why was the FBI, why was the national security apparatus, investing so much money in this guy?
00:13:00.920 This guy who's going in to spy on the Republican nominee's campaign for president of the United States.
00:13:07.360 FBI, under the administration of a Democrat, Barack Obama, this guy's being paid a ton of money to go in and spy on the Republican.
00:13:15.600 Now, some of the Trump critics, even on the right, they can't admit the gross injustice of all of this.
00:13:22.120 Nominal Republican Eric Erickson, who used to run redstate.com, he tweeted out, quote,
00:13:27.000 So, a question.
00:13:28.720 How does one infiltrate a political campaign as more than a menial volunteer?
00:13:32.960 I mean, if someone got on payroll in the main office and was a spy, that reeks of incompetence on the campaign's part.
00:13:39.260 Doesn't Trump only hire the best people?
00:13:41.200 Like, he's making excuses for Obama's FBI, which is spying on the Republican campaign.
00:13:46.820 This is a nominal Republican who's doing this.
00:13:48.780 He would have been a good defense attorney for Alger Hiss.
00:13:51.040 That is, that's crazy.
00:13:53.740 This guy is a well-credentialed former employee of Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan.
00:14:01.480 He's a respected academic. 0.98
00:14:04.800 Just because he's duplicitous and deceptive doesn't mean that you'd have to be foolish to speak to him. 0.95
00:14:11.500 That's not what that means at all. 0.96
00:14:12.440 This guy is a long-standing Republican political operative.
00:14:16.000 He's a guy who's well-respected in academic circles.
00:14:18.700 I don't think it's crazy to let that guy in and have some meetings with him. 1.00
00:14:23.160 You don't have to be a bumbling idiot to do that. 1.00
00:14:25.460 The story here is not on the incompetence of the Trump campaign. 1.00
00:14:28.260 This guy was a three-time White House staffer.
00:14:31.600 What the story is here is on the duplicity and the deception of Barack Obama's national security apparatus
00:14:38.080 and Barack Obama's investigative agencies.
00:14:41.240 So we know at this point, it's just a side note,
00:14:44.920 because the anti-Trump stuff is crazy.
00:14:48.100 It's craziest from the people on the right, because it totally misses the point.
00:14:53.080 It absolutely misses the point.
00:14:54.640 When you've got these egregious crimes being committed by the left and by the federal bureaucracy, 0.98
00:14:59.660 and they say, yeah, but you know, Trump, he's a dummy, isn't he? 0.94
00:15:02.280 Like, guys, what are you talking about? 0.99
00:15:04.080 What are you talking about?
00:15:05.960 The Democrats and the federal bureaucracy are trying to undermine
00:15:08.840 the duly elected conservative Republican president of the United States,
00:15:11.980 and you're taking their side?
00:15:14.040 Are you kidding me?
00:15:15.140 So we know the official story is BS.
00:15:18.280 James Comey lied.
00:15:19.780 John Brennan lied.
00:15:21.900 Not just Comey, the FBI director, John Brennan, CIA director for Barack Obama.
00:15:26.720 John Brennan, by the way, Barack Obama's CIA director,
00:15:29.200 who voted for the Communist Party nominee for president in 1976.
00:15:33.560 Somehow, under Barack Obama, this guy gets to be in charge of the CIA.
00:15:36.400 We could do a whole show on talk about incompetence or nefarious motives.
00:15:42.880 So John Brennan, Barack Obama's CIA director, he knows that he lied, and he's getting nervous.
00:15:47.540 He tweets this out today.
00:15:48.500 He tweets, quote,
00:15:48.960 Senator McConnell and Speaker Ryan, if Mr. Trump continues along this disastrous path,
00:15:55.780 you will bear major responsibility for the harm done to our democracy.
00:15:59.280 You do a great disservice to our nation and the Republican Party if you continue to enable
00:16:04.340 Mr. Trump's self-serving actions.
00:16:08.780 You getting nervous there, John?
00:16:10.480 Is that what's going on?
00:16:11.700 You know, because you sound like you're getting a little nervous.
00:16:14.560 Why would you be getting nervous?
00:16:15.760 Because John Brennan, Obama's CIA director, said that the Democrat cooked up Steele dossier
00:16:21.720 was not used as the basis for the Russia investigation.
00:16:25.320 He didn't know anything about it.
00:16:26.520 I don't know anything about that Steele dossier, except we later found out he did know about
00:16:30.100 the Steele dossier, and he talked to a lot of people about the Steele dossier,
00:16:33.140 and he was spreading it all around D.C.
00:16:35.200 CNN has even admitted that the FBI used the dossier as justification to begin spying on the
00:16:42.080 Trump campaign.
00:16:43.020 Even CNN admits that.
00:16:44.260 When CNN admits something damaging to Democrats, you just can't deny it anymore.
00:16:48.820 It is beyond the point at which you can deny it.
00:16:52.360 Now, still, the timelines don't quite add up, do they?
00:16:55.460 Did the investigation begin in late July?
00:16:57.740 Did it begin in early July?
00:16:59.060 It looks like it began at both times.
00:17:01.060 Some people gave the go-ahead here.
00:17:02.440 Some people gave the go-ahead here.
00:17:03.900 It doesn't really matter.
00:17:05.400 Because now, mark my words, what Democrats are going to try to do is say, well, the Republicans
00:17:09.360 are saying it began at two different times, and so that doesn't add up.
00:17:13.580 The fact that you can point to two different times when it officially began and the official
00:17:18.260 statements of Obama administration employees saying, oh, it began here, it began here, it
00:17:22.200 began here.
00:17:22.480 What it really points out is that, broadly speaking, the Obama administration was determined to
00:17:30.560 help Hillary Clinton and hurt Donald Trump.
00:17:33.700 How are they going to do it?
00:17:34.820 They're going to send in spies to the Trump campaign. 0.83
00:17:38.580 They'll do that.
00:17:39.180 That's one way.
00:17:39.740 And then, oh, okay, we got this dossier that Hillary funded.
00:17:42.260 Okay, we're going to go.
00:17:43.240 We're going to use that.
00:17:44.160 We're going to, but we're going to get him.
00:17:45.680 We're going to go get him.
00:17:46.860 Because that's how Barack Obama used his government.
00:17:49.480 Barack Obama, I know this.
00:17:50.740 I'm a member of an organization that was targeted by Barack Obama's IRS, a relatively right-wing
00:17:58.980 organization, non-profit organization, was targeted by Barack Obama's IRS while he was
00:18:03.820 targeting many others.
00:18:04.820 He did it because he used the government to get his political opponents.
00:18:07.860 Looks like he did the same thing here.
00:18:09.460 Bill Clinton met with then Attorney General Loretta Lynch on her airplane while that plane
00:18:15.240 was parked at the Phoenix Tarmac.
00:18:17.760 Walks on the plane.
00:18:18.940 Later, they say, oh, we're just talking about our grandkids.
00:18:21.440 So really, the former president met with the sitting Attorney General who's about to
00:18:24.540 investigate his wife for deleting federal records and mishandling classified material.
00:18:28.580 You guys were just talking about your grandchildren, right?
00:18:30.860 That's what you were doing.
00:18:31.560 Oh, they're good.
00:18:32.260 Okay.
00:18:32.800 Anything else we're going to talk?
00:18:33.980 No, I guess not.
00:18:34.740 Okay, walks off the plane.
00:18:35.800 No way.
00:18:36.220 When that meeting leaked, because they tried to hide it from the public, when that meeting
00:18:39.900 leaked, the FBI scrambled to identify and punish the source of the leak.
00:18:44.540 That's according to another leak that came out last December, and a leak not reported
00:18:48.480 by the right-wing press.
00:18:49.760 That was even reported by Newsweek.
00:18:51.380 We know that happened.
00:18:52.560 James Comey admits that he exonerated Hillary Clinton before the FBI interviewed her.
00:18:58.540 He admits that in his new book, Not a Conspiracy.
00:19:01.560 He's had to admit it because the facts did not match his narrative.
00:19:05.480 How about the first draft of his letter exonerating Hillary Clinton?
00:19:10.020 The first draft of that accused her of gross negligence.
00:19:12.580 Because, obviously, she was grossly negligent. 1.00
00:19:15.140 She mishandled a ton of classified material, and then she bleached all of the materials. 0.94
00:19:21.280 A later draft changed that phrase to extremely careless.
00:19:26.040 Grossly negligent became extremely careless.
00:19:28.320 Why is that?
00:19:28.960 Because gross negligence can mean prison time and fines, and the politicized Barack Obama
00:19:33.560 administration and Barack Obama's FBI, James Comey's FBI, didn't want that to happen.
00:19:38.600 James Comey also admitted that he publicized that second letter, that October letter, so
00:19:44.740 that Hillary's inevitable regime would not be illegitimate.
00:19:48.940 He didn't do it to hurt Hillary.
00:19:50.280 He did it because he knew that she was going to win, and he wanted to give her all the political
00:19:54.080 advantages he could going into her administration.
00:19:56.060 That is the Obama FBI, the Obama DOJ.
00:20:00.720 We know that Hillary Clinton mishandled emails. 0.93
00:20:03.280 We don't know what kind of graph she was covering up because she wiped her servers. 1.00
00:20:07.220 She destroyed federal records with bleach bit. 1.00
00:20:09.740 And we know from Peter Strzok, that FBI official, we know from his texts that a redacted source
00:20:15.220 writes, quote, the White House is running this.
00:20:18.720 The White House is running this with regard to investigations on Donald Trump.
00:20:24.640 We have it in those texts.
00:20:25.940 Ari Fleischer tweeted it out today.
00:20:27.900 The former press secretary for George W. Bush tweeted out, hey, how come no one's talking about this?
00:20:33.620 The FBI said the White House is running this investigation.
00:20:38.120 This Mueller investigation has gone on forever.
00:20:39.960 I think at this point, they legitimately are investigating Manafort's cousins, sisters, nieces,
00:20:46.240 lemonade stand that she had in Long Island in 1982.
00:20:50.900 That's all they're going for.
00:20:52.560 The Mueller investigation, it's going on forever.
00:20:54.180 It's clear that he doesn't have a smoking gun, you know, and a photo of Donald Trump and
00:20:59.600 Vladimir Putin sunning together in Cabo.
00:21:02.460 The satire website Resistance Hole ran a headline.
00:21:07.260 They said, boom, we've got you, Donald Trump.
00:21:10.060 A 13th century tapestry from Franciscan monks shows Trump and Putin colluding together.
00:21:15.960 So, you know, that's what they're going on.
00:21:17.720 They're going after totally irrelevant things.
00:21:20.260 And this investigation now has unfettered anti-constitutional power.
00:21:24.920 It's nakedly political.
00:21:26.400 There's no more pretense that this is unbiased, that it's nonpartisan.
00:21:29.920 It's just about law and order and patriotism.
00:21:32.020 That's what we've been told.
00:21:32.800 It is nakedly political.
00:21:33.940 It always has been everything relating to Barack Obama is nakedly political.
00:21:38.180 He's never done anything that isn't politics.
00:21:40.540 It's all politics.
00:21:42.020 The GOP would ignore this at its own peril.
00:21:44.920 We cannot abide this fiction anymore that this is, oh, that's unbiased.
00:21:50.300 Oh, that's okay.
00:21:51.180 They've been gunning for the Republican nominee since before he was the Republican nominee,
00:21:56.760 right around the time that he was.
00:21:58.280 They've been gunning for him.
00:21:59.440 They've been using every excuse in the book.
00:22:01.160 It's nakedly political, and we need to fight back.
00:22:04.740 Speaking of institutional wickedness, Google has now, this is like a caricature of a story.
00:22:12.100 Google's old motto from its code of conduct used to be, don't be evil.
00:22:18.100 Don't be evil.
00:22:18.960 Okay, that's pretty funny.
00:22:20.160 You know, ha ha ha, whatever.
00:22:21.160 However, they've repealed that code.
00:22:24.880 Google now, you know, it censors conservatives and has all of our data and is a very spooky organization.
00:22:31.340 They now don't say, don't be evil.
00:22:34.160 They've replaced don't be evil with do the right thing.
00:22:38.960 Okay, you think, what's the big deal?
00:22:41.680 That tells us a lot.
00:22:43.560 Don't be evil.
00:22:44.260 Very simple.
00:22:44.880 They had it for its entire existence, decades of existence.
00:22:48.840 Then do the right thing, huh?
00:22:51.200 Do the right thing is much more Machiavellian.
00:22:53.740 Do the right thing is much, because what do the right thing says implicitly is that sometimes evil things maybe can be good.
00:23:00.800 It's a sort of situational ethics.
00:23:03.900 Don't be evil.
00:23:04.720 They thought that don't be evil didn't get at what they were trying to do.
00:23:07.560 It said do the right thing.
00:23:08.600 Okay, maybe do the right thing means sometimes you've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet, get a little bit evil.
00:23:13.160 What it also says, though, is that Google is becoming more overtly SJW, social justice warrior, overtly progressive.
00:23:21.900 It's not don't be evil.
00:23:23.200 It's not just be an umpire or don't do bad things.
00:23:26.580 You can't just stand by now, according to them.
00:23:28.660 You've got to actively push this SJW agenda, this social justice warrior agenda.
00:23:34.760 And it's happening.
00:23:35.400 We see it happening ourselves.
00:23:36.980 We see it when they censor the Daily Wire.
00:23:39.920 Now when you search for Daily Wire articles, you get Snopes results and PolitiFact results.
00:23:45.200 Fact, left-wing fact checkers.
00:23:47.580 That's, oh, no, you don't want to read the Daily Wire.
00:23:49.600 Oh, they're right-wing.
00:23:50.680 You don't, read the left-wing one instead.
00:23:52.620 That's better.
00:23:53.200 They don't do this to left-wing websites.
00:23:54.820 They do it to right-wing websites.
00:23:57.400 YouTube, which is owned by Google, censors us all the time.
00:24:00.560 I mean, we're constantly, my episode last week, I don't even remember what I was talking about.
00:24:05.880 I was talking about some Democrat corruption, and it just cut off right in the middle.
00:24:10.560 They just censored it.
00:24:11.580 They said, we can't let this guy keep talking.
00:24:13.060 They constantly demonetize conservative videos.
00:24:15.980 They constantly censor conservative speech.
00:24:18.380 Dennis Prager did a video about how you should not murder.
00:24:21.340 On the Ten Commandments series, they said, no, this isn't suitable for college students.
00:24:25.880 No, can't do it.
00:24:27.720 Can't do it.
00:24:29.300 Expect more of this to come.
00:24:31.580 Obviously, they've been pushing a progressive narrative for a long time at Google.
00:24:34.820 Now they're being overt about it.
00:24:36.320 They're admitting it.
00:24:37.160 It's only going to get worse.
00:24:38.660 Speaking of great things getting worse, Starbucks.
00:24:41.500 Starbucks is going full homeless camp now.
00:24:43.860 So you remember earlier this month, a black man was arrested at Starbucks, and this became
00:24:50.060 a big hullabaloo.
00:24:51.480 And the reason the police were called, I suppose he wasn't arrested.
00:24:53.980 The police were called.
00:24:55.280 And it's because these guys came in and were just sitting at the table.
00:24:59.360 And after a while, one of the employees came up and said, hey, you have to purchase a product
00:25:05.000 in order to sit and use our space.
00:25:07.860 You can't just sit here.
00:25:08.820 This isn't like a public park.
00:25:10.280 You've got to buy our product to be here.
00:25:11.920 They said, no.
00:25:13.840 Which, are you kidding me? 1.00
00:25:15.480 You go, how rude and ridiculous. 0.99
00:25:17.720 You go and you buy the product. 0.98
00:25:19.020 And they said, no, we're not going to.
00:25:20.260 I said multiple times, they come over and say, hey, you know, you've got to buy something.
00:25:23.520 He said, no.
00:25:24.320 And they asked them to leave, and they said, no.
00:25:26.240 Like, Bartleby the Scrivener.
00:25:27.380 No, I'd prefer not to.
00:25:28.800 No, I'd prefer not to.
00:25:30.160 So eventually, they called the police, and this became some big, big news story.
00:25:35.440 As though it's horrifying that an employer, that a store, says you have to buy their product
00:25:42.020 to be in their space.
00:25:43.980 Anywho, Starbucks, instead of saying, hey, guys, you have to buy our product to be in
00:25:47.900 our space, they're now saying, no, no, you don't need to buy anything.
00:25:50.560 You can hang out here.
00:25:51.540 You can use our bathrooms.
00:25:53.760 Anybody who's in our space, even if they don't buy a product, they're customers, which
00:25:58.380 just isn't true, because customer has a definition.
00:26:02.580 Starbucks can't change the definition of a word.
00:26:05.420 Customer has a meaning.
00:26:06.340 That isn't true.
00:26:06.780 But they're fighting against reality.
00:26:08.640 And so it's about these bathrooms.
00:26:10.020 You can use the bathrooms even if you don't buy anything.
00:26:11.920 Why is it that these days, all political fights are about bathrooms?
00:26:15.920 That is really weird. 0.77
00:26:16.860 Isn't it the transgender bathroom, the Starbucks bathroom? 1.00
00:26:20.780 Why is that? 0.68
00:26:22.360 I actually think because it's about who can use which bathrooms, who gets to use it, and
00:26:27.540 who decides who gets to use it?
00:26:29.340 Is it the people who own the bathroom, or is it the mob?
00:26:32.880 Which is it?
00:26:33.640 Who decides who gets to use the bathrooms? 1.00
00:26:36.020 And what we've decided is the mob does it.
00:26:38.760 That's the progressive political views.
00:26:41.280 The mob gets to decide who gets to use your property.
00:26:44.320 The other thing is exclusiveness, because exclusiveness is now considered a bad thing.
00:26:50.480 If it's a men's bathroom, that means that it's not a women's bathroom. 0.99
00:26:54.620 And if it's a women's bathroom, it means it's not a men's bathroom. 0.79
00:26:57.000 But some men think that they're women, or very much want to be women, or just are culturally
00:27:03.420 influenced to dress up like women.
00:27:05.220 And so they want to use the women's bathroom. 1.00
00:27:07.480 But they can't use the women's bathroom, because they're not women, because they're men. 0.99
00:27:11.300 That became a major political fight, and Barack Obama fanned those flames.
00:27:15.180 Donald Trump did not.
00:27:16.420 He said, for the five people who are genuinely confused about your gender, keep doing what
00:27:20.520 you're doing. 0.96
00:27:20.940 For everyone else, stop acting like a dummy.
00:27:22.700 Okay, it's this exclusiveness.
00:27:26.420 Why, well, what?
00:27:28.180 You're saying I have to buy a product to use a space?
00:27:30.740 That's exclusive.
00:27:32.160 Some people don't have $3 for a latte, or don't, you know, want to spend their $3 on
00:27:37.720 a latte.
00:27:39.340 The correct answer to that is then you don't get to use the space, because that's the
00:27:43.480 price of entry.
00:27:44.660 But in the modern, progressive, democratic idea of things, oh, how dare you?
00:27:49.340 You could never say that.
00:27:50.280 No, women want to go to the men's room. 1.00
00:27:52.000 Men want to go to the women's room? 1.00
00:27:53.740 Probably more the latter. 0.96
00:27:55.020 Oh, vagabonds want to use the bathroom at Starbucks and make it much worse for everybody, because 1.00
00:28:00.280 it'll just become a homeless camp.
00:28:01.860 You know, you have to do that.
00:28:02.880 How could you say no?
00:28:03.640 How could you say no?
00:28:04.400 And this brings us to the final point before I bring on our guest.
00:28:07.400 Speaking of exclusiveness and nice things degrading themselves, I will just talk briefly
00:28:12.000 about the royal wedding.
00:28:13.720 As Americans love the royal wedding, got a lot of viewership in the U.S., especially women 0.95
00:28:18.600 love the royal wedding.
00:28:19.400 They love it because we all like a fairy tale, and women in particular like the story of a 1.00
00:28:24.320 princess marrying Prince Charming.
00:28:26.320 This has always been true at all places in the world, in all cultures, forever.
00:28:30.280 And now we pretend to ourselves, because of feminism, that we're not allowed to like 0.94
00:28:34.640 this anymore.
00:28:35.280 So Disney says, no more princesses falling in love with princes.
00:28:38.800 They're going to not, you know, that movie Moana doesn't even have a prince.
00:28:42.260 Or some of the love stories are about sisterly love now, or motherly love.
00:28:45.800 Whatever they can to resist this traditional story.
00:28:49.620 And it happened at the royal wedding.
00:28:50.880 The royal wedding was really awful to watch.
00:28:53.340 I'm sorry to say, I think I'm the only person who's actually saying this.
00:28:55.800 I bet a lot of people thought it, though.
00:28:57.300 Which is, you're in St. George's Chapel.
00:28:59.720 You're in the aristocracy.
00:29:01.060 You're in the monarchy.
00:29:02.920 And it opens up on Ben E. King's Stand By Me.
00:29:08.140 Stand By Me at the royal wedding.
00:29:09.980 And it's not that I don't like Stand By Me.
00:29:11.720 That's a nice song.
00:29:12.740 I also like Van Morrison and David Bowie.
00:29:16.200 But I don't think that David Bowie should be played at a royal wedding, you know.
00:29:20.460 Maybe you open up with, oh Jesus, we adore thee, or some Anglican hymn, you know.
00:29:25.520 So they had that aspect.
00:29:26.920 Then a woman who, Meghan Markle, the new Duchess of Sussex, who walked down the aisle and married
00:29:32.360 another man seven years ago, Till Death Do Us Part.
00:29:35.440 Till Death Do Us Part turned out to be Till Two Years From Now Do Us Part.
00:29:38.640 So five years ago, she was married to another man, and yet she walked down in white.
00:29:43.620 I don't begrudge her divorce when you get married in a church that was founded by the
00:29:48.440 most famous divorcee in all of history, Henry VIII.
00:29:51.440 That doesn't get to be a big issue.
00:29:53.980 But even the farce of it, to walk down as though, it just punctures some of the magic
00:30:00.340 of the fairy tale.
00:30:01.600 Then when they walked out, the song that was playing was Etta James' This Little Light
00:30:05.780 of Mine, again, a lovely song, not appropriate for the English monarchy for this high church
00:30:12.300 wedding.
00:30:13.320 They walked out of there.
00:30:14.480 Meghan has a website now on the royal page that says she's proud to be a feminist. 0.99
00:30:19.520 Oh gosh.
00:30:20.460 This, the monarchy wants to modernize.
00:30:23.540 That's what all of the mainstream media are reporting.
00:30:25.540 How good it is that we have a modern monarchy.
00:30:28.180 Nobody wants a modern monarchy.
00:30:29.780 If you modernize the monarchy, you don't make it better.
00:30:32.340 You just destroy the monarchy.
00:30:33.880 Because the monarchy is aristocracy.
00:30:36.660 Aristocracy comes from aristos, which is Greek for the best, right? 0.99
00:30:40.280 It's the best.
00:30:40.800 It's supposed to elevate you.
00:30:41.900 It's not supposed to reflect the people.
00:30:43.580 That's democracy, demos, the people.
00:30:45.900 Democracy reflects the people, the spirit of the age.
00:30:49.820 Aristos represents the virtues and the best.
00:30:52.160 The monarchy is supposed to be something to look up to, to elevate the people.
00:30:55.680 If you modernize it and make it reflective of the people, you don't get a better monarchy.
00:30:59.940 You just get another democracy.
00:31:01.700 And it's cheap and it's weird and it's not a fairy tale.
00:31:04.600 Disney is doing it.
00:31:05.660 The British royal family is doing it.
00:31:08.060 Both of them should stop.
00:31:09.260 It's very frustrating.
00:31:10.280 We've got to get to this day in history and our wonderful guest.
00:31:12.360 Before we get to that, I've got a second bite of Facebook and YouTube.
00:31:15.280 We've got a really good guest today.
00:31:16.380 We're going to hear about some incredible stories escaping Nazi-occupied France during World War II.
00:31:20.960 But if you are on Facebook or YouTube, you've got to go to dailywire.com right now.
00:31:25.240 Why?
00:31:26.360 Well, it's $10 a month, $100 for annual membership.
00:31:29.080 You get me.
00:31:29.700 You get the Andrew Klavan Show.
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00:31:32.020 You get to ask questions in the mailbag.
00:31:34.080 Everybody can listen to the mailbag questions, but only subscribers can ask them.
00:31:38.800 Many are called, few are chosen.
00:31:40.520 You get to ask questions in conversation.
00:31:42.400 Everybody can watch, but only subscribers get to ask the questions.
00:31:46.080 Next one up is the big boss, Ben Shapiro, who's away right now.
00:31:49.640 I talk a little bit more about the royal wedding on Drew's show today, which became the Ben Shapiro radio show.
00:31:56.100 And I'm sure that will be hilarious when Ben comes back in a fury that I was on his show while he was gone.
00:32:00.460 That's a story for another time.
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00:32:03.280 We'll be right back with This Day in History, and you can return with your Leftist Tears Tumblr.
00:32:07.600 Yum, yum, yum.
00:32:08.040 On this day in history, a lot of things happened in World War II.
00:32:22.040 In 1940, a special unit in Germany carried out a mission and murdered more than 1,500 hospital patients in Prussia.
00:32:32.260 This was an attack to kill the unfit.
00:32:34.420 Those people deemed unfit by the scientifically barbaric German government and Nazi government. 0.83
00:32:40.960 By the way, that special unit reported back to headquarters in Berlin that the patients had been successfully evacuated.
00:32:47.360 I suppose they were successfully evacuated to their eternal reward, but they were murdered in cold blood on Earth.
00:32:53.000 In 1942, on this day in history, 4,300 Jews were deported from a Polish town to a Nazi camp at Sobibor, and all were gassed to death.
00:33:02.400 That camp had five gas chambers.
00:33:04.720 A quarter of a million Jews were killed there between 1942 and 1943.
00:33:08.700 The German firm IG Farben set up a factory outside of Auschwitz.
00:33:12.620 And, on this day in history, 1940, the French Ninth Army surrendered.
00:33:17.020 As you might know, I'm waving the flag of the French Army right now, as a matter of fact.
00:33:20.580 The French Army surrendered itself as a nation.
00:33:24.000 France would surrender within the month.
00:33:26.440 We're lucky enough today to be joined by Carol Engel-Avriot, the author alongside of World War II veteran Captain George Starks of Coffin Corner Boys, One Bomber, Ten Men, and Their Harrowing Escape from Nazi-Occupied France.
00:33:41.520 It is a wonderful read.
00:33:42.780 Carol, thank you for being here.
00:33:44.480 Well, thank you for having me, Michael.
00:33:46.000 Carol, so this book, just to give a little overview of it, the book tracks 20-year-old George Starks on a 300-mile trek to Switzerland.
00:33:56.960 He's got a fractured foot there.
00:33:58.940 He'd been shot down over Nazi-occupied France.
00:34:02.480 He's got a 20-millimeter shell fragment in his thigh.
00:34:05.140 He comes face-to-face with Nazis.
00:34:06.960 He barely evades capture.
00:34:08.180 And yet, these days, 20-year-olds suffer nervous breakdowns when their parents forget to upgrade their iPhone data plans.
00:34:16.360 How responsible do you think, in your research for this book, the war was for shaping what we now call the greatest generation?
00:34:25.680 Well, you raised some interesting questions there because, really, George was 19 when he first got his pilot's wings, so even younger than 20.
00:34:34.320 The average age on that crew was 22.
00:34:39.240 There was one of them that was 27, and to the rest of them, he was ancient, so they called him the old man Pops or Pappy.
00:34:49.460 And it was an amazing thing, really, because George has often told me all 10 of them were from very different backgrounds,
00:34:58.400 religious backgrounds different, socioeconomic, family situations, educational backgrounds different, but they all had one thing in common.
00:35:07.320 They were all patriots, and they all wanted to go to war to protect America.
00:35:15.420 And so it's an interesting thing.
00:35:18.340 And, in fact, last week, somebody asked me, you know, Carol, to whom did you write this book?
00:35:24.160 Well, obviously, people who enjoy reading about great heroes and World War II and all.
00:35:30.840 But I have seven grandchildren, and I actually wrote the book for them because if we don't get these stories down and recorded, we're going to lose them.
00:35:39.820 And I want my young grandchildren, a little too young right now to read it, but I want them to know what these men really did.
00:35:47.260 Well, I love that point.
00:35:49.320 I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:35:50.940 I just said, you know, really, they were boys.
00:35:53.040 We call them men, but they were really boys when they got started.
00:35:56.660 Of course, unfortunately, through the war, they grew up very quickly.
00:36:02.380 Well, it's the stories aspect that I really like because the stories in this book are incredible.
00:36:08.760 And my grandfather was a navigator on a B-24.
00:36:12.520 He bombed a lot of Nazis in the war.
00:36:15.280 And so I grew up, as a kid, I grew up hearing these stories.
00:36:19.780 And kids today, they don't hear these stories.
00:36:22.480 They'll, I don't know what they hear.
00:36:24.780 You know, a lot of these veterans are going up to their eternal reward at a faster clip.
00:36:29.040 So the people who live through it are leaving the earth.
00:36:33.360 Do you think there's a risk here that these narratives are going to be lost to history?
00:36:38.160 Obviously, there aren't a whole lot of books out like yours.
00:36:41.980 There certainly aren't enough.
00:36:43.740 How much are we going to remember in 50 or 100 years?
00:36:47.120 Well, you know, we need to get as many recorded as we can.
00:36:51.500 I'm doing my part trying to get them down.
00:36:54.060 Now, this one book does have 10 stories, each of the crew and what happened to them after they were shot down.
00:37:02.760 Of course, now, George Starks, the pilot, is the primary person in the book because he goes, he returns to Europe and later and retraces his steps.
00:37:15.440 And that's a wonderful part of that story.
00:37:17.260 But George is still living.
00:37:19.160 He's 94 and has turned into a dear friend.
00:37:23.880 It took us about three years to research the book and for me to interview him.
00:37:28.320 But, you know, he'll be 95 in November.
00:37:30.520 And only one other of the crew had been alive when I started this book.
00:37:36.200 And that was actually the only Jewish member of that crew, Irv Baum.
00:37:41.580 And he unfortunately passed away about eight or nine months ago.
00:37:45.100 But I was so privileged and thankful that I was able to interview him, too, before he did pass away.
00:37:52.800 And, you know, on this point, there were these multiple faith backgrounds of people.
00:37:58.680 Irv was Jewish. 0.50
00:38:00.100 George, I suppose, Christian.
00:38:02.160 And George says at one point in the book, I need help, God.
00:38:05.920 I can't do this by myself.
00:38:08.020 They say there are no atheists in the foxholes.
00:38:11.280 Broadly in the culture, we see that religion is declining.
00:38:15.140 And younger generations appear to be much less religious than older generations.
00:38:20.020 Do you think it's the suffering of war trampling through France, surrounded by Nazis with a broken foot, that brings out people's need for God?
00:38:31.280 Do you think that was the defining feature?
00:38:34.540 Well, I think any time a person comes face to face with their mortality in a situation where their life is actually going to be on the line
00:38:48.200 and might could end at any moment, I think that in and of itself produces sort of a landscape for thinking about what may be eternal and what might not be eternal.
00:39:02.380 And George certainly, as he was going along, reached that place, that point where he was at the end of his rope in human terms.
00:39:13.780 And so what he did then was turn to, at that moment, what he felt might be a higher power that could possibly help him.
00:39:25.980 And that's what he did.
00:39:27.180 There's an incredible scene in the book where he really literally thinks that he just cannot go on.
00:39:34.880 And he has been without food for a number of days.
00:39:40.800 He's been wet and cold and, you know, he's up in snow country and he just calls out.
00:39:48.800 He says, God, you know, I can't do this on my own.
00:39:52.640 You're going to have to help me.
00:39:53.940 And speaking of that higher power and perhaps forgiving your enemies and loving your neighbor,
00:40:03.840 we see in his later life, Captain Starks and his wife, Betty Jo, they go back to France after the war.
00:40:11.400 They find the civilians who risked their own lives to save his life.
00:40:16.920 And broadly speaking, the United States makes friends with our enemies after wars.
00:40:21.380 This is a habit of ours.
00:40:22.300 We have a special relationship with Great Britain, although we fought two wars with them right at the beginning.
00:40:27.720 Germany, Japan, Vietnam, Korea, on and on.
00:40:31.880 Maybe North Korea soon, depending on how this meeting goes next month.
00:40:36.120 Yes, depending.
00:40:37.700 So I want to know what insight did you gather from working with Captain Starks on dealing with your former foes,
00:40:46.520 dealing, you know, burying hatchets.
00:40:48.740 This guy's lived an incredible life.
00:40:50.240 He's seen the world change dramatically.
00:40:53.620 What that says for us individually and what it says for U.S. policy.
00:40:57.000 Well, you know, really, when he returned to France, these were the people that had helped him.
00:41:05.200 And actually, most of the people that he ran into did help him.
00:41:13.160 But he it took him a long time to hook up.
00:41:15.780 This is the this is the interesting part.
00:41:17.360 It took him a long time to hook up with the actual organized underground or resistance.
00:41:22.320 So from day one, the people that helped him were just normal, average, everyday Frenchmen, men, women and children.
00:41:31.420 They were not part of an organized resistance.
00:41:34.240 They just simply knew that, you know, they disliked the Germans for coming in and what they were doing to their country. 0.95
00:41:41.800 And they wanted to do what they could with any American soldier or ally, you know, that they ran into.
00:41:47.240 So to me, that was the most incredible thing, because these people had everything to lose.
00:41:55.660 For example, the woman that he stayed with the very first night.
00:42:00.700 OK, she had a little girl who was eight or nine years old.
00:42:03.580 Her husband at that time was a POW, Polish POW with the Germans.
00:42:10.760 And had she been caught, there is no question but what she would have been executed and probably her daughter as well, at the very least, sent to a concentration camp. 0.80
00:42:22.140 I mean, when they caught, as I think you write in the book, when they caught people who were housing runaway American soldiers, men, women and children, they'd pull them out and they'd shoot them in the head. 0.97
00:42:33.580 Right. Exactly. So. So when when George was shot down and after and in this 300 mile trek to freedom in Switzerland, he vowed two things to himself. 0.79
00:42:46.760 Number one, that if he ever if he made it, if he lived through the experience and got back to the States, he would never lose touch with his crew again as long as he lived.
00:42:56.400 The second vow that he made to himself was that at some some point one day, if he could, he would go back to France and try to locate all those brave souls that had helped him and helped his men.
00:43:09.100 And he lived to do both of those things.
00:43:12.280 It's an amazing story. It's a really amazing story. And the book achieves something which I think is really incredible.
00:43:18.440 It really almost makes you like the French. I hate to I don't know that I could even say it on this, but it really does. 0.90
00:43:24.160 I apologize for my French army flag joke. The book is Coffin Corner Boys.
00:43:28.820 It's by Carol Engel-Evriette alongside Captain George Starks. It's a really engrossing read, really enjoyable and tells a story that is quickly being forgotten.
00:43:38.300 So read it so you don't forget it. Go get the book. Coffin Corner Boys. Carol, thank you so much for being here.
00:43:42.700 Thank you so much, Michael. Good to be with you today. God bless.
00:43:45.540 You too. So that was wow. It's a really fascinating to talk to and a really fascinating book.
00:43:50.760 Like, that's our show. So go read the book. We can talk about it tomorrow. You come back tomorrow, we'll talk about it.
00:43:56.660 Listen, guys, I'm like getting ready for my bachelor party. I'm getting ready to get married soon.
00:44:01.180 We are, you know, send me, send those good vibes, man. Thoughts and prayers. I can take them.
00:44:06.840 And I will see you tomorrow. Get your mailbag questions in. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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