The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1604 - The Joe Rogan & Trump Episode REACTION

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Michael Knowles show. As you can tell from my deep gravelly voice and luxurious

00:00:06.520 majestic beard, I am not Michael Knowles. I am Matt Walsh because I'm here to tell you about

00:00:11.800 the biggest news of the week, of the month, of the year really, which is that Am I Racist?

00:00:20.640 My film is streaming right now on Daily Wire Plus. You can go to dailywire.com

00:00:26.180 and use code DEI for 35% off annual subscriptions to watch what is, in fact...

00:00:33.460 Hey, you guys have me?

00:00:36.100 What are you doing?

00:00:37.380 Does Nashville have me?

00:00:40.220 Michael, I'm doing the show. What are you doing?

00:00:42.660 Are you sitting in my studio?

00:00:44.880 I am sitting in your studio, which is a much more elaborate setup, I have to say, than mine,

00:00:48.500 which I'm a little upset about.

00:00:50.700 It is. It took them about six years to make it. I knew something was off because,

00:00:55.580 in that very art deco, kind of avant-garde wallpaper, the flannel really stands out.

00:01:03.100 I go to New York for about 36 hours. I come here to check out the Trump rally. I thought maybe my

00:01:10.520 friend Matt Walsh was going to join me, but instead, no. What happens? You take the opportunity

00:01:15.420 to seize my decadent little studio and promote what? Because you've got a movie coming to the

00:01:21.520 platform today? Is that what you're saying?

00:01:24.080 I do, in fact, have a movie coming to the platform. In fact, it's on the platform right

00:01:27.960 now at dailywire.com. It was the number one documentary, number one grossing documentary

00:01:33.300 of the decade in theaters. And lots of people have been asking, when can we watch it at home?

00:01:40.160 Can we watch it? And now you can. Worldwide, in fact. There's fans of this that want to watch

00:01:46.360 this movie all over the world. And now they can right now, which I thought was going to be the

00:01:50.540 subject of your entire show. So even if you're taking over, then I...

00:01:54.800 It might well be, actually. Because I was informed by The View and all the liberal media that what I

00:02:00.980 attended yesterday was a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. So before Kristallnacht 2 takes place,

00:02:07.020 do we have a clip from Am I Racist?

00:02:09.840 What do you feel in your body when you hear the term white people?

00:02:15.800 I feel like a cringe about it.

00:02:19.060 White, straight, cisgender, man, it's the top of the pile. 1.00

00:02:21.960 I'm on the top of the pile. It's me.

00:02:24.380 Can I just propose a toast? Raise a glass if you're racist. 0.98

00:02:27.500 To racist. 0.96

00:02:29.560 That was really weird. 0.95

00:02:31.220 Don't deny that you're racist. Try not to be racist. But also don't realize that you're...

00:02:35.220 Until we're willing to talk about these things, healing can't really begin.

00:02:37.980 My daughter's four years old. She's still watching Disney movies and choosing a white princess. 0.99

00:02:42.360 Have you talked to her about that?

00:02:43.300 All of the time.

00:02:44.180 Is racism inherent to whiteness?

00:02:46.560 Yes.

00:02:46.980 Yep.

00:02:47.420 Yeah, probably.

00:02:48.180 Well, yeah.

00:02:49.240 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

00:02:52.680 Did race exist as a reality before?

00:02:54.560 We made race exist.

00:02:56.080 Does that make sense?

00:02:56.880 It does make sense.

00:02:58.020 What do you mean?

00:02:58.640 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. 0.71

00:03:02.120 This is more for you than this for you.

00:03:04.060 Am I Racist?

00:03:05.380 You know, that trailer reminds me, Matt, that I actually saw one of your 17 black friends

00:03:15.340 in the city last night.

00:03:17.520 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to do the work, okay?

00:03:21.700 I'm going to hope that you're not in my studio when I get back.

00:03:23.760 I am going to sit here and I am going to do the work for the next 41 minutes or so.

00:03:30.220 Everyone else, in the meantime, should subscribe to The Daily Wire to watch Am I Racist?

00:03:36.380 And occasionally to watch Matt Walsh hosting my show in his flannel and his beard in my studio.

00:03:43.420 Matt, thank you for being here.

00:03:46.080 Thank you, Michael.

00:03:46.660 Go get the movie.

00:03:49.860 Go watch the movie.

00:03:50.600 I had people all over New York, actually, talking about the movie because every right

00:03:56.820 winger in the country, it felt like, descended on Manhattan Island yesterday.

00:04:02.440 This was absolutely wild.

00:04:05.480 Hot on the heels of President Trump's extremely revealing three-hour interview with Joe Rogan,

00:04:10.960 which we're going to get all the way through.

00:04:12.520 We have so much to get to today.

00:04:14.160 Hot on the heels of all of that.

00:04:15.280 President Trump rounded up his final campaign push with the wildest political rally I have

00:04:22.620 ever seen, from near or from far, at Madison Square Garden.

00:04:27.160 I've got the tea.

00:04:28.640 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:04:29.320 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:04:45.280 President Trump filling up the most legendary events arena in the United States to capacity.

00:04:56.120 It was completely insane with probably over 100,000 people outside.

00:05:01.300 And meanwhile, Kamala Harris and the Democrats broadly are running a pro-masturbation 30-second

00:05:09.120 campaign ad to try to get young men to vote for her. 0.99

00:05:11.980 So the two campaigns really could not be more different.

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00:05:53.040 The Madison Square Garden rally, which many people said could not be done because New 0.99

00:05:59.080 York is a Democrat state and Trump is a terrible, evil fascist and everyone was going to hate 0.98

00:06:05.660 him and there's no way he could fill up Madison Square Garden. 0.98

00:06:07.940 I mean, he floated this rally a while ago and he actually pulled it off. 0.96

00:06:13.040 People said it was stupid for him to hold the rally, even if it could be pulled off well 0.91

00:06:16.340 in the final week of the campaign. 0.99

00:06:18.100 What's Trump doing campaigning in New York?

00:06:20.000 He's not going to win New York, they say.

00:06:21.780 He should be in the swing states.

00:06:23.200 The whole thing was genius.

00:06:24.620 It was an incredible political rally.

00:06:26.780 The genius of holding it a week before the election is that it felt like another RNC.

00:06:32.600 You know, the Republicans had their convention.

00:06:34.740 Their convention went so well.

00:06:36.400 Their debate went so well that the Democrats got rid of their nominee, replaced their nominee

00:06:40.820 with Kamala Harris.

00:06:41.660 Then they had their convention.

00:06:42.840 That gave them some momentum.

00:06:44.360 The MSG rally felt like another mini convention.

00:06:46.460 It was pretty wild.

00:06:47.880 It was pretty star-studded.

00:06:48.940 It was just a spectacular event.

00:06:50.960 It filled up completely to capacity.

00:06:54.180 I couldn't even get poor Professor Jacob in.

00:06:56.260 There was even—I was standing—or I was sitting, rather, as close as you could be without

00:07:01.700 actually being on the floor, like where the speakers were, and Elon was there.

00:07:07.300 And even that little floor area with serious VIPs—we're talking Elon, we're talking J.D.

00:07:12.740 Vance, we're talking, you know, real dignitaries—even that with standing room capacity, you really

00:07:18.840 couldn't move.

00:07:19.480 All the way from that level, all the way up to the rafters, there was really not a seat

00:07:23.920 to be found.

00:07:25.060 It went extraordinarily well.

00:07:26.940 We were told in the lead-up to this rally by people like Hillary Clinton that this was

00:07:31.380 going to be a Nazi rally.

00:07:34.120 And, you know, one other thing that you'll see next week, Caitlin, is Trump actually reenacting

00:07:41.780 the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939.

00:07:47.940 I write about this in my book.

00:07:50.120 President Franklin Roosevelt was appalled that neo-Nazis, fascists in America were lining

00:07:58.000 up to essentially pledge their support for the kind of government that they were seeing

00:08:05.340 in Germany.

00:08:06.760 So I don't think we can ignore it.

00:08:09.160 Okay, and you hadn't heard about this, of course, because Hillary wrote it in her book

00:08:12.600 and nobody's reading her most recent book.

00:08:14.720 Hillary seems really confused here.

00:08:16.380 For instance, she's saying there was a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939, and

00:08:21.120 she's calling those people neo-Nazis.

00:08:23.200 But in 1939, they weren't neo.

00:08:25.060 They were actually just Nazis.

00:08:26.220 And there was a rally that had swastikas up that was in support of the Nazis over in

00:08:30.420 Germany.

00:08:30.820 That's true.

00:08:31.240 There was such an event in 1939.

00:08:33.940 There have been other events at Madison Square Garden.

00:08:36.420 I'm not sure if Hillary Clinton and the Democrats know that.

00:08:39.160 There are like Knicks games.

00:08:41.200 So if Trump holding a rally at Madison Square Garden was reminiscent of prior events such

00:08:47.040 as a Nazi rally, does that mean that the Trump rally yesterday was also reminiscent of a

00:08:52.100 Knicks game?

00:08:52.900 Was it reminiscent of that Billy Joel concert I went to in 2005?

00:08:56.460 Was it?

00:08:56.880 No, it was.

00:08:58.320 It was its own thing.

00:08:59.880 And even Jonathan Karl at ABC News has had to admit this.

00:09:03.580 Even the liberal media.

00:09:04.780 Jonathan Karl said, I guess he was at the event yesterday.

00:09:07.380 He said, I was there for six hours.

00:09:09.500 He said, it's the MAGA movement is its own movement.

00:09:12.720 This is a real movement.

00:09:14.060 Trump has put together a real thing.

00:09:16.420 The place was packed and outside was flooded.

00:09:18.560 They were actually broadcasting it on the screens outside.

00:09:21.800 It was really, it was really magnificent.

00:09:24.800 And so, of course, the Libs compare it to the Nazis because the Libs always compare Republicans

00:09:28.520 to Hitler and the Nazis and all the rest of it. 0.94

00:09:30.960 However, I was thinking, sitting there in that room, how unjust it is to make the comparison

00:09:38.400 to Hitler and fascists and Nazis and the things Democrats always do when they're talking about

00:09:42.580 us.

00:09:42.960 And it's so unjust because I move in very conservative circles, but I also move in some

00:09:48.560 liberal circles as well.

00:09:50.080 I move in, I'm from New York.

00:09:51.860 I lived in Los Angeles.

00:09:53.880 I went to a very liberal university.

00:09:55.200 I've been around a lot of Libs and I can say, I think with a little bit of objectivity, I

00:10:01.400 don't think with too much bias, you see much more charity and much more grace and much more

00:10:08.040 kindness and much more friendliness and much more balance and much more moderation and much

00:10:14.360 more good humor at the right-wing rallies, at the MAGA rallies, than you do at the left-wing

00:10:19.440 events.

00:10:20.300 I'm not saying you never hear an untoward remark at a right-wing event.

00:10:23.980 But broadly speaking, these people are really good people and they come in and they leave the

00:10:28.820 place better than they found it.

00:10:29.980 And when you go to left-wing events, there's a lot more shrieking.

00:10:33.460 There's a lot more talk of hatred.

00:10:36.800 There's a lot more vitriol.

00:10:39.060 There's a lot more invective.

00:10:40.380 There's a lot more damage done to venues.

00:10:43.320 It's, you know, I know I'm a right-winger.

00:10:46.180 I've got my prejudices and I've got my allegiances.

00:10:50.080 But it's so deeply unjust to make those kinds of comparisons about the right-wing because

00:10:57.340 they're just really good people.

00:11:00.120 They're extraordinarily diverse.

00:11:02.000 They're geographically diverse.

00:11:03.200 They're racially diverse.

00:11:04.400 They're culturally diverse.

00:11:05.780 And they're just, they're good.

00:11:07.420 They're good people.

00:11:08.080 I don't know how else to put it.

00:11:09.560 It is, in as much as people can be good, they're really good people.

00:11:12.440 And it was a beautiful event.

00:11:13.400 I'm not going to pull a lot of clips from the rally.

00:11:16.460 I think many of you probably watched it yesterday, if you didn't, you know, it was six and a

00:11:19.960 half hours or something.

00:11:20.860 So we would be here all day.

00:11:22.820 However, there are two points that Trump made during his speech that I really want to hit

00:11:27.540 on because they were impressive.

00:11:30.020 The first one is Trump says we need to change the tax code such that if you care for a family

00:11:39.160 member, you can have a tax deduction.

00:11:41.580 And I think this is so smart.

00:11:42.960 This is a great example of a pro-family policy that is simple.

00:11:47.600 It's easy.

00:11:48.200 It's, you know, it's, I don't think it would require too much to push it through Congress.

00:11:52.480 Maybe some of the fiscal hawks won't like it, but I think they should like it.

00:11:56.100 Right now, when you have aging family members or family members with disabilities, you can

00:12:01.180 deduct certain medical expenses and certain care expenses if you go out and hire some random

00:12:06.400 person to take care of your relative.

00:12:07.960 But not if, you know, grandma and grandpa take care of a relative.

00:12:11.460 And not if you are caring for a brother or sister, you can't deduct that on your taxes.

00:12:15.840 But it's much better for the family members to care for the family members than to go

00:12:19.100 out and just hire some random person.

00:12:21.040 And so I thought that was a really simple way to advance a pro-family policy at a time

00:12:25.360 when marriages are collapsing, at a time when the birth rate is plummeting, at a time when

00:12:28.520 we need a family policy in America.

00:12:30.060 I thought that was brilliant.

00:12:31.180 The other point that Trump made that I loved is he said that we need legal penalties for

00:12:37.520 people who burn the American flag.

00:12:39.020 And there are going to be some on the right who don't like that proposal.

00:12:42.380 They're going to say that it's a matter of free speech to burn the American flag.

00:12:45.260 That is a relatively novel idea.

00:12:47.880 There have been some very serious jurists who have advanced the idea that burning the

00:12:51.140 flag is protected political speech, Antonin Scalia among them.

00:12:54.760 But the pre-Scalia, you know, pre-recent decades understanding of burning the American flag is that

00:13:02.100 it was not protected by the First Amendment.

00:13:03.820 There were all sorts of laws against it going very far back in our country.

00:13:07.220 And as you may have noticed, if you read my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling

00:13:11.180 Minds, I think that that was a healthier country.

00:13:14.920 Thank you very much.

00:13:15.660 Even from afar, I like that we get my bell.

00:13:18.020 We were a healthier country when we had standards and norms and taboos that were out in the open

00:13:23.940 and that were good and that were enforced by the culture and by the law because the law

00:13:28.900 is a tutor.

00:13:29.300 And what Trump is advocating here is actually a return to a deeply conservative policy.

00:13:35.260 And it's actually important because signs matter because they signify things and they

00:13:39.060 signify meaning.

00:13:40.360 And we have a crisis of meaning in America.

00:13:42.500 So I thought it was good.

00:13:43.040 There was a lot of other great stuff.

00:13:44.080 Those were two things that stood out to me that a lot of people weren't talking about.

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00:15:15.620 Enough about the rally.

00:15:17.200 I want to turn to at least an on-par, at least an event that met that standard of the rally

00:15:27.720 in its significance in the final couple weeks of the campaign.

00:15:30.360 That is Trump going on Rogan.

00:15:33.640 Kamala could never.

00:15:35.760 She could never.

00:15:36.520 I bet a lot of you have listened to the Trump-Rogan interview.

00:15:40.540 It's quite long, so maybe some of you skipped around.

00:15:43.360 I'm going to try to fly through this because Trump, on his feet with the most prominent

00:15:50.040 interviewer of our time, has revealed so much about himself.

00:15:56.420 Rogan opens up the interview and he reveals something about what Trump reveals about the

00:16:01.740 political system.

00:16:02.820 Rogan opens up the interview by referencing Trump right before he really, you know, hit

00:16:11.140 the national scene as a presidential candidate.

00:16:13.740 Trump, when he was launching his presidential campaign, not that long ago, whatever it was,

00:16:17.120 nine years ago, going on The View.

00:16:20.600 And Rogan pointed out how strange it is that he was warmly received by all those liberal women.

00:16:25.980 Donald Trump is a billionaire, a real estate mogul, and a television star.

00:16:31.780 But does he really want to add President of the United States to his resume?

00:16:36.360 A lot of people would like him to.

00:16:38.280 Please, let's find out.

00:16:39.220 And please welcome my friend, Donald Trump.

00:16:41.860 He's giving him hugs, kisses, Joe Behar.

00:17:06.540 Well, the audience loves him.

00:17:08.860 We're so happy to have you.

00:17:10.020 Whenever you're on with us, we're very happy.

00:17:14.260 Whenever you're on with us, we're very happy.

00:17:16.220 My friend, Donald Trump, that wasn't 20 years ago.

00:17:18.960 That wasn't 30 years ago.

00:17:21.040 That was about nine years ago when Trump started running in 2015.

00:17:26.120 I love that Joe opened with this.

00:17:28.080 This was so insightful because it reveals something that Trump reveals about the system,

00:17:32.640 which is that the system is fake.

00:17:34.600 And Trump is able uniquely to reveal this fact about the system

00:17:39.760 because Trump has been a celebrity since the 80s, at least.

00:17:44.280 Because Trump was the toast of the town.

00:17:47.520 Because Trump is not from Texas or Tennessee.

00:17:51.120 Trump is a New Yorker.

00:17:53.800 Trump did not come from some church movement.

00:17:57.560 Trump did not come from pro-life activism.

00:17:59.720 Trump did not come from any of the traditionally right-wing areas of politics.

00:18:05.960 Trump was a TV star and a real estate mogul and a playboy billionaire.

00:18:10.600 And New York and not even just New York, a lot of New York still loves Trump.

00:18:15.380 The liberal establishment loved him as recently as when he declared his candidacy for president.

00:18:22.280 And then, when he was running and he started to do well, and then certainly when he beat Hillary Clinton,

00:18:27.560 the system had to turn him into a Nazi. 0.53

00:18:30.020 So Barbara Walters, my friend, my good friend, Donald Trump,

00:18:34.320 and Whoopi Goldberg there kissing him and Joy Behar kissing him,

00:18:37.040 they just had to, like robots, they just had to get the upgrade to their software.

00:18:40.620 Boop, beep, boop, sorry, nope, Trump, evil now.

00:18:43.300 And it all had to go away.

00:18:44.760 And it reveals how artificial that system is.

00:18:48.780 It reveals how disingenuous those accusations about Trump and really about all the Republicans are.

00:18:55.720 Because they're not just calling Trump a Nazi and the Trump rallies Nazi rallies.

00:18:59.160 They did it to Mitt Romney.

00:19:00.340 They did it to John McCain.

00:19:01.340 They did it to George Bush.

00:19:02.320 They did it to the other George Bush.

00:19:03.880 They did it to Ronald Reagan.

00:19:04.980 They do it to everyone. 0.99

00:19:07.120 Trump just uniquely can reveal how silly that is.

00:19:09.920 So then, the next really revealing clip I saw from the Trump-Rogan interview, 0.84

00:19:16.260 when Trump is discussing the moment he gets there into the White House,

00:19:20.680 and he talks about what he first noticed.

00:19:24.060 We get to the White House, and now it's a little bit before dark, beautiful.

00:19:30.460 And we went up to the president's quarters.

00:19:34.080 They call them the presidential quarters.

00:19:35.520 And I'm standing in this beautiful hallway.

00:19:40.360 You know, it's funny.

00:19:41.260 Nobody ever talks about the White House as being beautiful inside.

00:19:44.500 You know, you think it's going to be everything's going to be all metal doors and stuff.

00:19:47.580 It's not.

00:19:48.820 It's so beautiful.

00:19:50.280 I made my money largely on luxury.

00:19:53.200 The hallway is like 25 feet wide.

00:19:55.980 The ceiling heights are, you know, every, it's so beautiful.

00:20:00.420 Beauty.

00:20:01.700 Beauty.

00:20:02.500 And I think he's being totally sincere here.

00:20:04.340 I think he's being sincere much, if not most, if not all the time.

00:20:09.260 Sometimes his sincerity gets him in trouble a little bit,

00:20:11.420 because he's not politic about the way he discusses issues.

00:20:15.620 But here, he sounds as sincere as I've ever heard him.

00:20:19.200 He says, you know, first thing I noticed is just how beautiful it is.

00:20:22.300 The hallways.

00:20:23.660 The wood.

00:20:24.600 The ornamentation.

00:20:27.400 It's good to be attracted to beauty.

00:20:29.800 Because beauty is one of the transcendentals.

00:20:32.020 Truth, goodness, and beauty.

00:20:34.340 And when you're attracted to beautiful things, you're more likely to encounter the truth and goodness.

00:20:38.940 When you're attracted to true things, you're more likely to encounter beauty and goodness, right?

00:20:42.260 They kind of lead you one to the other.

00:20:44.460 Today, the left wants us to be attracted to things that are not beautiful.

00:20:48.900 They're trying to upend our standards of beauty.

00:20:50.600 They're trying to tell us that things that are grotesque are really beautiful.

00:20:53.980 That things that are out of place are really beautiful.

00:20:57.120 Not to look at beautiful women, that's somehow sexist and misogynistic. 1.00

00:21:00.560 But to look at men who dress up like women, who are grotesque caricatures of women.

00:21:04.380 We're told that's actually beautiful.

00:21:06.200 We're told that really unhealthy lifestyles are beautiful.

00:21:09.860 But Trump's saying, no, no, no.

00:21:10.720 Look, the thing that struck me that really resonated for me was beauty.

00:21:14.940 Remember, Trump had that great executive order.

00:21:16.660 The Make Federal Buildings Beautiful Again Act.

00:21:19.280 Where he wanted them to have neoclassical architecture.

00:21:21.400 It tells you that whatever you want to say about Trump, people always say, oh, he's defective in this area.

00:21:25.800 He's defective in that area.

00:21:26.760 I like him, but he's got the—you know, his apparatus is still working pretty well.

00:21:33.140 If you can say, look, I just—I don't read all the political philosophy books, but I—you know, I'm attracted to beautiful things.

00:21:39.920 And I can sniff the difference between the truth and BS.

00:21:44.460 And I want to do good stuff and not bad stuff.

00:21:46.820 And I'm not going to allow ideologies to twist me into a pretzel to call good evil and evil good.

00:21:51.440 That is a really admirable quality in politics.

00:21:55.440 It's obviously served him well.

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00:23:11.320 Trump moves on to his biggest mistake.

00:23:13.880 He says his biggest mistake is he hired some bad people.

00:23:16.320 And he said, look, I had to hire a lot of people.

00:23:18.020 I didn't know anyone in Washington.

00:23:19.480 But that was the biggest mistake because everyone, no matter what they say about him and the campaign, no matter, everyone is a shark in Washington, D.C.

00:23:31.020 And no matter what they say, they want power.

00:23:34.960 Look, everybody wants it.

00:23:37.140 By the way, no matter what you do, but it's very dangerous to pick somebody outside of a politician because a politician has been basically vetted for years.

00:23:46.440 Right.

00:23:46.760 You pick a business guy and they've never been vetted at all and they're, you know, the head of a big company or something, but they've never been vetted.

00:23:54.280 You know nothing about his personal life.

00:23:56.200 You know nothing about where he's been.

00:23:57.680 And when you put them in, it's a little bit dangerous because all of a sudden they get checked up and you hear things that you're saying, wow, this is not going to work out too well.

00:24:06.140 So it's very dangerous.

00:24:07.300 Picking people that are outside of politics is somewhat dangerous.

00:24:12.360 So he's saying, look, they all, all these people, they all want power.

00:24:17.760 They all want the position.

00:24:19.160 They're all trying to get in there however they can.

00:24:23.180 But what's the alternative?

00:24:25.260 If the knock on the first Trump administration was that Trump picked too many swamp creatures, too many people who were too deeply involved in politics, Trump is rightly pointing out, okay, the thing about people who are involved in politics is they have been vetted.

00:24:40.420 I think this explains why Trump is attracted to really famous people, famous celebrities, and also people who have been in politics a long time.

00:24:49.020 People have been very successful in politics because there is a natural vetting process.

00:24:52.800 The scandals are going to come out.

00:24:54.280 They're going to have taken the blows.

00:24:55.860 They're going to have been bloodied a little bit.

00:24:57.140 We're going to see if they can survive.

00:24:59.980 He says at various points in the campaign, he goes, I hate excuses.

00:25:03.220 I'm not making excuses.

00:25:04.760 But he says this one is a little bit of an excuse because if you pick people totally from outside of politics, well, the political establishment can eat them for lunch usually.

00:25:16.560 But if you pick people from within politics, these are people who have often made concessions.

00:25:20.440 Picking people that are outside of politics is somewhat dangerous, he says.

00:25:24.720 This is a commentary also on himself.

00:25:29.420 This is why they attack Trump so much because they liked Trump.

00:25:35.640 They liked Trump when he just kind of did what they wanted him to do and he was getting all the top ratings on NBC with The Apprentice.

00:25:41.680 And he had his real estate and his neckties and his watches and his golf courses.

00:25:45.440 And so everyone likes him.

00:25:47.060 He plays nice.

00:25:47.660 He writes checks to Democrat politicians.

00:25:49.680 But then when he really gets involved in politics in a way that they can't control, that's breaking orthodoxies on the left and on the right, he's upending everything.

00:26:01.900 That's dangerous.

00:26:03.200 So they try to throw everything at him.

00:26:04.780 You know, he hit on a waitress in 1972.

00:26:07.240 They try to throw everything at him.

00:26:08.380 He had a phone call with the president of Ukraine, which is Trump's job.

00:26:10.880 It's his job to talk to foreign leaders.

00:26:12.280 They try to impeach him.

00:26:14.500 They try to imprison him.

00:26:16.480 They establish the justification to assassinate him because they recognize something that Trump is admitting is true.

00:26:24.880 Namely, when you pick people for positions of power who are outside of the political establishment, it's dangerous.

00:26:33.500 Then another wonderful little tidbit here with Trump.

00:26:39.680 He explains his personal feelings toward people who worked for him, who served in his administration, who then go on the liberal networks to attack him.

00:26:50.900 And his answer is not what you would expect.

00:26:52.480 I've had many people go on CNN and they call and said, I don't know what to do.

00:26:57.220 They want to pay me a lot, but I have to be negative on you.

00:26:59.760 I said, be negative.

00:27:00.560 That's OK.

00:27:01.360 There are guys on like CNN.

00:27:03.320 They won't hire them. 0.86

00:27:05.120 Sean Duffy is a congressman and he retired.

00:27:08.940 He got a good job with CNN, but he was only positive about Trump.

00:27:12.580 So they kept him, but they would never put him on.

00:27:16.320 I mean, I respect what he did.

00:27:17.560 He could have gone, you know, negative.

00:27:18.760 I tell people, go negative, let my friends make the money.

00:27:22.860 I tell people, I look, I tell people.

00:27:25.120 It's nice, Sean Duffy wanted to stay positive, but I tell people, go on TV, go negative on me.

00:27:30.280 That's make your money.

00:27:30.960 I want my friends to make money.

00:27:33.320 It's a reminder of something that I've said from the beginning that even some of my friends in conservatism got wrong about Trump.

00:27:39.900 They say, Trump's so petty, he takes everything personally.

00:27:42.340 I said, excuse me, Trump takes nothing personally.

00:27:44.540 And you heard it proven right there with Rogan.

00:27:49.460 Trump, he reacts, he punches back, he hits you two or three times as hard, but he doesn't take things personally.

00:27:56.440 He says, yeah, go on TV, say something negative, whatever, let my friends make money.

00:28:00.800 Here's how you know he doesn't take things personally.

00:28:02.560 He and Ted Cruz had a bruising primary campaign.

00:28:05.580 And then at the end of the primary campaign, when Ted agrees to help Trump, what does Trump say?

00:28:11.040 He goes, oh, yeah, he's not lying, Ted, anymore.

00:28:12.640 He's beautiful, Ted.

00:28:13.280 I love him.

00:28:13.980 Trump can work with just about anybody, even if they've had a brutal, vicious fight.

00:28:17.940 It reminds me of Michael Corleone in The Godfather, when Michael wants to go and kill the cop who smacked him around a little bit because the cop was a dirty cop and he was complicit in the assassination of Don Corleone. 0.67

00:28:32.660 Sonny says, what? 0.91

00:28:33.720 You're going to take this all personally because you got smacked around a little bit?

00:28:36.820 And Michael Corleone says, no, no, it's not personal, Sonny.

00:28:39.480 It's strictly business.

00:28:40.960 For Trump, I think it's strictly business.

00:28:43.240 Which is a good attitude to have.

00:28:44.440 It's actually an attitude, ironically, of humility.

00:28:49.380 Yeah, people, they attack him on CNN.

00:28:51.000 That's okay.

00:28:51.360 Go let my friends make money.

00:28:52.740 We're going to need loyalty when it counts.

00:28:54.760 When the campaign really gets going, when the policy is really on the line, when the rubber meets the road, that's when we want loyalty.

00:29:01.140 All this other stuff, it's just noise.

00:29:03.100 Then, in the interview, Trump floats an idea that he also floated yesterday at Madison Square Garden.

00:29:10.320 I don't think this is just a one-off.

00:29:11.740 I think this is a serious proposal.

00:29:13.260 The kind of proposal that we haven't heard in about 100 years in the United States.

00:29:17.360 Namely, to get rid of the income tax and to bring in government revenue through tariffs.

00:29:22.440 To me, the most beautiful word, and I've said this for the last couple of weeks in the dictionary today, is the word tariff.

00:29:31.940 It's more beautiful than love.

00:29:33.760 It's more beautiful than anything.

00:29:34.840 It's the most beautiful word.

00:29:37.620 This country can become rich with the use, the proper use of tariffs.

00:29:43.320 Did you just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes and replacing it with tariffs?

00:29:49.160 Well, okay.

00:29:49.920 Were you serious about that?

00:29:51.000 Yeah, sure.

00:29:51.600 But why not?

00:29:52.480 Yeah, sure.

00:29:53.480 Why not?

00:29:55.820 There's two layers to this answer.

00:29:57.320 The one is just on the policy.

00:29:59.300 Trump has spoken highly of William McKinley, former president, the turn of the previous century.

00:30:05.940 He's spoken highly of tariffs before.

00:30:08.340 Some of the squishier, modern conservative types, many of them just reflexively hate tariffs because they were taught in their seventh grade history class by some liberal teacher that tariffs don't work or whatever.

00:30:19.560 So they just reflexively hate it.

00:30:21.280 Even though Abraham Lincoln told us, give me a tariff, I'll give you the strongest nation on earth.

00:30:25.460 But some people reflexively don't like tariffs.

00:30:28.440 Some, who are free traders, will acquiesce to the use of tariffs instrumentally as a way to increase free trade.

00:30:38.880 So they'll say, okay, we'll threaten tariffs when it's advantageous to trade agreements that free up trade a little bit more.

00:30:45.020 But Trump is going further here.

00:30:46.920 Trump is saying, no, no, tariffs are good in themselves.

00:30:50.040 More beautiful than love.

00:30:51.680 What a beautiful word these tariffs are.

00:30:53.880 And so he's making an actual political economic case for tariffs as a positive good.

00:31:00.760 And I know the modern economists are going to be pulling their hair out of their heads.

00:31:04.000 However, Trump does have in his corner McKinley, who he brings up.

00:31:09.780 He does have the Gilded Age.

00:31:12.320 But he's also got Abraham Lincoln, who's the first Republican president.

00:31:16.080 And he was the founder of the Republican Party.

00:31:17.520 So there is historical, political, and economic firepower before Trump here.

00:31:25.260 But what this reveals at the deeper level even, forget about tariffs and forget about the income tax.

00:31:29.900 I think a lot of people would love to get rid of the income tax.

00:31:32.240 Is Trump is really good at bringing people together.

00:31:36.540 That answer that he just gave will appease libertarians and protectionists.

00:31:40.960 He'll get both of them to support him on that answer.

00:31:43.920 The libertarians, because he says he wants to get rid of the income tax.

00:31:47.700 The protectionists, because he says he wants the tariffs.

00:31:50.420 There's a little bit for everyone here.

00:31:51.980 And he's not being a cynical calculator, I don't think.

00:31:54.440 I think he's just breaking the system.

00:31:56.620 And when you break the system, naturally there's a realignment.

00:31:59.380 So then Bobby Kennedy shows up to your rally, your Republican rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City a week before the election.

00:32:04.620 None of this makes any sense.

00:32:06.300 But it's happening.

00:32:06.960 And it's inevitably going to happen because Trump genuinely scrambled up the system.

00:32:14.900 You think about right now, at the rally yesterday, Rudy Giuliani devoted probably a quarter of his speech to how much he loves the state of Israel and the Jews.

00:32:22.700 And how we have to defend the Jews.

00:32:24.300 And everybody was cheering and applauding.

00:32:26.420 There were a lot of people wearing yarmulkes in MSG.

00:32:29.540 And at the same time, I saw at least one woman wearing a Muslim headscarf.

00:32:34.500 Wearing either an abaya or even the one where you just see the eyes.

00:32:38.800 And you have imams coming out endorsing Donald Trump.

00:32:42.900 Hold on.

00:32:43.360 You got the Jews and the Arabs. 1.00

00:32:44.580 You got the Jews and the Muslims coming together to support this guy.

00:32:47.660 And you got Kamala Harris' support among Jews and among Arabs and Muslims collapsing at the same time.

00:32:52.820 How is this possible?

00:32:54.220 Well, because Trump is saying to Jews, I will support the state of Israel.

00:32:58.020 And Trump is saying to Arabs and Muslims, I will pursue peace.

00:33:02.240 And I'll stop all this warfare in the Middle East. 0.99

00:33:05.860 There's something in there for both of them.

00:33:07.600 Kamala says, I'm going to turn my back on the state of Israel.

00:33:09.960 And I'm going to get more war in all the Muslim countries in the Middle East. 1.00

00:33:12.580 That's the worst of all scenarios.

00:33:14.180 Trump, and I think you got to give him credit for it at this point, nine years in, Trump is really good at forming new coalitions, new alliances, a new form of American politics.

00:33:30.880 Then, speaking of Bobby Kennedy, Trump brings up environmental consultants.

00:33:37.920 He had a really funny bit at the rally.

00:33:39.300 He goes, I love Bobby Kennedy.

00:33:40.900 We're going to put him, we're going to let him run wild on Big Pharma.

00:33:44.220 And we're going to let him run wild on the FDA.

00:33:47.520 And we're going to let him run, we're not going to let him run too wild on oil and gas.

00:33:50.460 Okay, we're going to rein him in a little bit on oil and gas.

00:33:53.180 We like what he says about food and medicine.

00:33:55.640 We don't like so much the EPA stuff or whatever.

00:33:57.880 And it was, Bobby Kennedy's right there in the room.

00:33:59.980 It was very, very funny.

00:34:01.260 Trump speaks about this issue of environmentalism and environmentalism and politics.

00:34:07.820 Angele Rogan, in a way, probably, even if you're on the left or you're on the right, you've heard about this issue your whole life.

00:34:12.840 Probably you haven't heard about it this way before.

00:34:15.240 So when you're saying that, so there's people that are making money by making it difficult.

00:34:20.620 Are you talking about lawyers?

00:34:22.140 No, I'm talking about environmental consultants and lawyers.

00:34:25.240 Environmental consultants profit off of dragging out the process.

00:34:29.120 Absolutely.

00:34:30.120 And how do they profit?

00:34:31.280 How do they profit off of that?

00:34:32.040 And I'd probably do the same thing if I were them, to be honest with you.

00:34:35.000 As a businessman.

00:34:35.320 I want to be honest with you.

00:34:36.180 How do they do that?

00:34:37.220 How do they make it?

00:34:38.180 I love that.

00:34:38.760 He goes, yeah, so what these guys do is the reason this environmental burden is so disastrous for businesses, the reason politicians like it, the reason that it keeps up.

00:34:49.860 It's not necessarily because of the science.

00:34:53.240 It's not necessarily because the world is going to end in 12 years, 15 years ago, like AOC said or whatever.

00:34:58.920 It's because there is a political system in place with sticks and carrots that encourages all of this environmental lobbying.

00:35:08.740 He says, yeah, these environmental lobbyists, these environmental lawyers, they make a lot of money and they have a lot of power and that's why they stymie builders.

00:35:15.640 And Trump knows this because Trump's a builder and he's worked personally with a lot of these guys for decades.

00:35:21.120 And then what does he say?

00:35:23.400 As he's revealing a little bit about the architecture of the system, system that he knows a lot about, more than he knows about Washington politics, he knows a lot about building and environmental regulations and business.

00:35:34.560 And Trump says, and you know, frankly, if I were in their position, I would do it too.

00:35:39.280 Because it takes a thief to catch a thief.

00:35:42.140 Trump is saying, look, I'm not going to be sanctimonious.

00:35:44.060 I'm not going to be holier than thou.

00:35:45.640 If I were in their position, I'd do it too.

00:35:47.100 The reason they're doing it is not necessarily because they're bad people.

00:35:49.880 The reason that these lobbyists and these lawyers are gumming up the works for everybody is because there's a system of sticks and carrots in place that create incentives for them to do that.

00:35:58.720 And that's why we need to reform the system so that the incentives are more conducive to the flourishing of Americans.

00:36:05.520 That's what we're going to do.

00:36:06.080 It's not that they're bad people.

00:36:07.260 It's not that they're evil.

00:36:08.260 It's just the system's a little bit broken and we're going to fix it.

00:36:11.320 And if I were in their shoes, I'd probably do it too.

00:36:13.900 It's a very humble way to talk about politics.

00:36:16.220 And it's much more insightful than probably any other politician I've ever heard talk about that issue.

00:36:21.480 Now, my favorite comment yesterday was from ex-prodigyxgames3296.

00:36:26.560 It says, you can tell Kamala's lying because she can't look forward for more than two seconds. 0.67

00:36:31.680 This is ironic because I'm reading this on a prompter right now, which is bullet.

00:36:34.120 So it looks like I'm changing my gaze too.

00:36:36.400 Wandering eyes is a sign of deceit.

00:36:37.660 I basically agree with that.

00:36:39.660 I saw in this interview, whenever it was, two, three days ago, Kamala, she'd have a question.

00:36:46.740 And it's not like she was just looking over, you know, right now I'm looking over watching a clip where I'm looking over here at a lighter side.

00:36:52.600 Kamala would hear the question and then just turn her head, stare off vacantly into space while she was concocting whatever lie she needed. 1.00

00:37:01.660 That's not a good sign.

00:37:02.460 When you have to do that, you're talking to somebody, looking right in the eye.

00:37:06.620 And every time they ask you a straight question, you go, ah, let me, what do we have here?

00:37:11.460 That is, in fact, a sign of deceit.

00:37:16.720 So then, on environmental regulation, Trump is asked a question that you've heard for your whole life.

00:37:24.180 From environmentalists, from capitalists, from all, nuclear energy.

00:37:32.960 Why is it?

00:37:34.400 You'll hear this from a lot of poli-sci 101 kind of students.

00:37:38.260 Why is it that we don't have nuclear energy?

00:37:41.860 Nuclear energy is so much more efficient than any other kind of energy, not just wind and solar, which is not efficient at all, but also more efficient than oil and gas.

00:37:49.240 Why don't we have nuclear energy here?

00:37:51.140 It's because those dumb environmentalists won't let us, and it's because the greedy capitalists and oil and gas want to suppress it. 0.58

00:37:56.900 But if we just had nuclear energy, we'd have flying cars. 0.98

00:38:00.080 Our society would be so great. 1.00

00:38:01.720 How come all these big, dumb idiots in politics never listen to me? 1.00

00:38:05.600 You know, I've got all the answers. 1.00

00:38:06.940 We just need nuclear.

00:38:07.920 It's going to be a magic wand to fix our problems.

00:38:10.900 Trump gives a sophisticated answer.

00:38:12.820 Let me ask you about nuclear.

00:38:14.060 One of the things that when I've talked to people that have a real understanding of nuclear power, what their position is, it's probably the cleanest, safest form of electricity that we could generate, and that the fears of nuclear power are really about a few disasters.

00:38:32.260 The Fukushima, Three Mile Island, these are old systems, and they're much more capable now, and they're capable of making even better systems.

00:38:43.580 But it's a difficult political issue because you think nuclear power, you think Chernobyl.

00:38:49.440 That's what everybody does.

00:38:50.260 They have this connection.

00:38:51.060 They have the potential disaster.

00:38:53.300 Or Fukushima.

00:38:53.880 Well, you're not supposed to enter the land for 3,000 years or something.

00:38:57.140 I think it's worse than that.

00:38:58.740 I think that area is going to be radioactive for probably longer than you could imagine.

00:39:03.680 But the point is they're better at it now.

00:39:06.320 Right.

00:39:06.760 And that they could do it now, and you can generate power in a way that you don't have to worry about these.

00:39:12.080 One of the most ridiculous things is electric cars being powered by coal-fired plants. 0.89

00:39:17.520 It's a ridiculous thing. 0.88

00:39:18.600 That's what's happening. 0.98

00:39:21.580 Look, that's what's happening.

00:39:22.660 Okay, and you can't enter the land for 3,000 years, and it's really, really crazy.

00:39:26.960 And why does Trump not go all in?

00:39:31.160 Why doesn't he take the bait from Joe Rogan and say, yeah, we absolutely need nuclear power?

00:39:37.660 Because he says, look, it's dangerous.

00:39:40.580 Okay, he's recognizing not just Fukushima, not just Three Mile Island, not just Chernobyl.

00:39:46.000 The big problem with nuclear power, if a country really relies on it, is it becomes a military target.

00:39:51.500 That's the problem.

00:39:53.940 Yes, there's the problem of human error.

00:39:56.100 But Joe says, well, it's a lot better now.

00:39:57.820 Maybe it is a lot better now.

00:39:59.320 But there's this political reality, which is in times of war, foreign actors and adversaries could target your nuclear power plant.

00:40:09.380 A terrorist could try to blow up your nuclear power plant.

00:40:12.920 That's the risk.

00:40:15.400 And I think there's a lot to be said for nuclear power, and we should explore it.

00:40:21.360 But there's a reason that we haven't just gone all in on nuclear power, and it's not just that we're all big dummies.

00:40:25.320 In a utopia, everything would be powered by nuclear, sure.

00:40:30.960 But we don't live in utopia.

00:40:32.680 There is no utopia.

00:40:34.240 We live in a world of warfare.

00:40:36.200 We live in a world where adversaries are constantly trying to take advantage.

00:40:39.420 We live in political reality.

00:40:41.160 And more than just about any presidential candidate in my lifetime, in fact, certainly more than any presidential candidate in my lifetime, Trump deals in political reality.

00:40:52.580 It's not that there's no goal.

00:40:55.080 There are no ideals.

00:40:55.940 But he's not an idealist.

00:40:57.680 He's saying, nah, look, politics, it's kind of messy.

00:40:59.980 It's kind of dirty.

00:41:01.300 And when politics becomes corrupt, you need a guy who can go in there and fix things.

00:41:05.100 And speaking of all this equipment, Trump then makes this same point on the Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:41:14.540 The knock on the Afghanistan withdrawal is that we left all this expensive equipment there.

00:41:19.420 Can you believe all these zillions of dollars we left there?

00:41:23.400 I'm speaking not of the day of the withdrawal where you have 13 American service members killed, and that was a human disaster.

00:41:30.320 I'm saying even just the geopolitics of it, you give all this equipment to the Taliban, and it was so expensive.

00:41:35.960 Trump describes an argument he had with General Mark Milley, chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was furious about white rage and, I don't know, is probably waving a rainbow flag somewhere right now.

00:41:46.420 Trump showed the myopia of his military leadership.

00:41:51.780 They should have taken all their equipment out.

00:41:53.980 Everything should, every plane, every screw should have been taken out, every tent. 0.88

00:41:57.960 And I said that, that's when I realized that Milley was a dummy.

00:42:01.580 I said, we're leaving, but I want to get everything out.

00:42:05.040 Sir, it's cheaper to leave it.

00:42:06.700 I said, what do you mean to leave it?

00:42:08.320 It's cheaper to leave it.

00:42:08.800 Yeah, he said it's cheaper to leave it.

00:42:10.360 Cheaper?

00:42:10.860 Cheaper.

00:42:11.300 He said it's cheaper.

00:42:12.620 Not more dangerous.

00:42:14.320 He just said cheaper.

00:42:15.960 I said, I want every plane.

00:42:17.700 I want every tank.

00:42:18.680 I want the goggles.

00:42:19.860 They have night goggles.

00:42:21.020 They have all this stuff that these guys now have.

00:42:23.520 He said, sir, it's cheaper to get out and leave it. 0.98

00:42:26.280 I said, this guy's nuts. 1.00

00:42:27.760 I'm telling you, he was so stupid. 1.00

00:42:29.740 He was so unwise. 1.00

00:42:31.120 He was like an unwise man.

00:42:35.440 I love that. 1.00

00:42:36.700 He was so stupid. 1.00

00:42:38.080 He was so unwise. 1.00

00:42:39.460 He was like an unwise man. 0.69

00:42:42.040 And he was in that interaction he's describing.

00:42:44.220 He was.

00:42:45.460 Because so many in our political establishment, they can tabulate dollars and cents.

00:42:50.120 It's not that they care about, you know, tablature books because they're going to run up the debt to $35 trillion and counting.

00:42:56.540 But they can figure out all the little numbers.

00:42:59.540 They can make the numbers work.

00:43:00.580 But they got more dollars than cents.

00:43:04.260 They don't recognize that there's more to life than money.

00:43:08.720 The technocrats today, they don't understand that.

00:43:10.760 Even the free trade ideologues don't understand that.

00:43:14.220 They say, look, if we ship all of our manufacturing overseas, you're going to be able to get T-shirts and electronics for a little bit cheaper.

00:43:20.100 So on average, a family is going to save $5,000.

00:43:22.720 And isn't that great?

00:43:23.280 It's actually, it's like getting a raise.

00:43:24.840 It's, even though you lost your job and you lost your job and now you're depressed and now you're addicted to drugs and your family's falling apart and your community's falling apart.

00:43:33.260 But hey, on paper, you look, dollars and cents in the Excel spreadsheet, you actually made a little bit more money from saying there's more to life than money.

00:43:40.260 It's kind of funny that the billionaire from New York is telling you there's more to life than money.

00:43:44.560 There's more to politics than money.

00:43:45.700 Sure, it's cheaper to leave all the equipment in Afghanistan.

00:43:48.060 But now you've armed our enemy of 20 years with state-of-the-art military equipment.

00:43:53.480 You don't think that's going to hurt us down the road? 0.76

00:43:56.820 You don't think that's a little penny-wise pound foolish? 0.51

00:43:59.580 Final point on the Trump-Rogan interview. 0.61

00:44:01.120 It was a really, really good interview.

00:44:02.920 I tried to suppress three hours plus into about 10 minutes, 15 minutes.

00:44:08.040 Trump brings up McDonald's and the political calculation that went into becoming a fry cook.

00:44:15.940 I went into the place and I did the French fry thing.

00:44:19.420 And it just hit.

00:44:21.040 But that's like in life.

00:44:22.540 Sometimes you do.

00:44:23.560 I thought it was like a quick throwaway.

00:44:25.040 We're going to be there for 15 minutes.

00:44:26.360 Then I said, I've worked here for 15 minutes, which is 15 minutes more than she worked here.

00:44:32.220 She lied about McDonald's.

00:44:34.000 I absolutely love this.

00:44:37.940 I love the McDonald's bit, but I love what he says.

00:44:40.320 He goes, it just hit.

00:44:43.440 But that's like it in life.

00:44:47.000 Sometimes you do.

00:44:47.840 Sometimes you just hit.

00:44:48.920 I thought it was a throwaway, but it just hit.

00:44:50.400 I remember one time years ago, I don't know.

00:44:52.940 I had had some academic achievement or something like this.

00:44:56.960 This was back when I was really young.

00:44:59.100 And a family member said, Michael, I think you're the most successful person I know.

00:45:04.060 I said, oh, that's very sweet.

00:45:05.880 That's very nice because I had whatever, whatever the achievement was.

00:45:09.460 But I said, but I'm also certainly the biggest failure, you know.

00:45:14.160 And I said, what are you talking about?

00:45:15.200 I was like, oh, I've failed at so many things.

00:45:17.560 I've thrown spaghetti at the wall.

00:45:19.260 And I have succeeded at a few things, but I've failed at a lot of things.

00:45:23.700 And so, which I think is the right way to do things.

00:45:25.580 I think you just kind of go for it.

00:45:26.680 You know, you say yes to life, see how it works.

00:45:29.080 Trump is giving that same advice.

00:45:31.700 And the same thing could be said about Trump.

00:45:33.480 Trump is like the biggest success alive today.

00:45:36.700 He's also the biggest failure.

00:45:38.180 He's had bankruptcies.

00:45:39.360 He's had companies flop.

00:45:40.800 He's had embarrassments.

00:45:41.980 He's had scandals.

00:45:43.640 He's had, he's been impeached twice.

00:45:46.760 He's had, oh, what a failure. 1.00

00:45:48.640 What a total loser. 1.00

00:45:50.260 What a, except you just can't keep him down. 1.00

00:45:55.300 What a, oh, he's a flop. 0.99

00:45:56.900 He's a failure. 0.91

00:45:57.640 He's never going to recover from this. 0.94

00:45:59.420 He's been indicted four times and he goes out and he gives the press conference.

00:46:02.300 We're getting back up on the horse.

00:46:03.720 You just can't keep this guy down.

00:46:08.300 He's the biggest winner because he's willing to risk being the biggest loser.

00:46:12.960 That's why he's willing to just do it.

00:46:15.460 He's just going to go out there and do it.

00:46:16.760 And sometimes in life, look, I thought it was a throwaway, but actually, look, it really

00:46:20.420 worked out.

00:46:21.020 Sometimes it really do be like that.

00:46:24.560 I have not had time because look, I'm really jazzed, man.

00:46:28.660 I was at Madison Square Garden and historic presidential rally yesterday.

00:46:32.580 The Republican in Madison Square Garden in Manhattan, totally crazy.

00:46:36.260 And we had the long Rogan interview to get through.

00:46:37.860 So I didn't get to Democrats running a pro-masturbation campaign ad for Harris.

00:46:46.080 I'm actually kind of happy that I didn't get to that.

00:46:48.400 We will get to that.

00:46:50.200 I guess we have to get to it tomorrow.

00:46:52.200 But, you know, we'll have a little palate cleanser in the meantime.

00:46:55.440 No membrum segmentum today.

00:46:56.800 I got to go get on an airplane, come back to D.C., take my studio back from Mr. Walsh.

00:47:01.500 Go check out air on the Daily Wire Plus platform today.

00:47:03.940 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:47:04.480 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:47:05.240 See you tomorrow.

00:47:06.280 See you tomorrow.

The Michael Knowles Show - October 28, 2024

Ep. 1604 - The Joe Rogan & Trump Episode REACTION

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