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00:00:15.880 Kamala has finally conceded.

00:00:17.840 And while many are praising her speech, I think it was downright scandalous.

00:00:22.320 I think it was too little, too late from a cynical politician whose 15 minutes are up

00:00:27.720 as President Trump prepares his return to the White House with a clear mandate to govern.

00:00:34.000 I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:02:19.620 Kamala conceded.

00:02:21.560 And people are praising this speech.

00:02:23.700 I don't really think this is a praiseworthy speech.

00:02:27.180 First of all, she should have given the speech on election night.

00:02:30.920 Everyone knew she lost on election night.

00:02:33.360 In fact, the campaigns knew that she lost much earlier.

00:02:36.220 Let's not forget, on election night, probably by about 10 p.m., 10 or 11 p.m., the Kamala

00:02:42.160 campaign was no longer fielding questions from reporters, okay?

00:02:45.460 They knew.

00:02:46.340 They had internals.

00:02:47.580 They had internal polling, which showed that things were not looking as good as they wanted

00:02:52.460 them to.

00:02:53.580 And then they just knew.

00:02:54.600 They knew relatively early in the night.

00:02:56.100 We all knew in the public by midnight or so central time.

00:03:00.140 She should have come out there and told her supporters, hey, thanks for all your help,

00:03:04.900 but it's not going to work out.

00:03:05.960 She should have gone out there and told the American people, hey, I'll accept the results

00:03:09.000 of this landslide election, landslide in the Electoral College, and even with a clear

00:03:14.500 popular vote for Donald Trump.

00:03:17.340 She didn't do that.

00:03:18.200 She did the same thing Hillary did, which is delay, delay, delay.

00:03:21.100 I don't know, hope that 5 million ballots would come in in a trunk somewhere in Philadelphia.

00:03:25.940 It didn't happen.

00:03:27.260 And so finally, she was forced to concede at risk of looking completely absurd.

00:03:30.920 And here is how she conceded.

00:03:33.480 People who are watching, it is okay to feel sad and disappointed, but please know it's

00:03:40.220 going to be okay.

00:03:41.660 On the campaign, I would often say, when we fight, we win.

00:03:47.100 But here's the thing.

00:03:48.420 Here's the thing.

00:03:49.680 Sometimes the fight takes a while.

00:03:52.480 That doesn't mean we won't win.

00:03:54.640 That doesn't mean we won't win.

00:03:58.580 The important thing is don't ever give up.

00:04:02.780 Don't ever give up.

00:04:04.480 Don't ever stop trying to make the world a better place.

00:04:10.220 You have power.

00:04:12.220 You have power.

00:04:14.180 And don't you ever listen when anyone tells you something is impossible because it has

00:04:21.100 never been done before.

00:04:22.700 It's going to be okay.

00:04:29.260 Hold on.

00:04:29.920 The premise of the Kamala campaign was the premise of the Biden campaign, which is that

00:04:34.260 Trump is Hitler and he poses an existential threat to democracy.

00:04:37.720 So it's okay.

00:04:39.920 Hey, everybody.

00:04:41.100 Thank you all for coming out here.

00:04:42.860 Thank you for you.

00:04:43.640 You feel sad.

00:04:44.660 It's okay.

00:04:45.080 But it's going to be okay that we elected Hitler.

00:04:47.820 Hitler is a-okay as far as I'm concerned.

00:04:52.460 So says Kamala Harris.

00:04:54.340 Hitler is okay.

00:04:56.620 Trump will destroy the fabric of our country.

00:05:00.680 He will shred the Constitution.

00:05:02.980 He poses an existential threat.

00:05:05.880 We are all going to die.

00:05:08.460 And that is okay.

00:05:11.080 That doesn't sound okay to me.

00:05:12.740 That sounds very scary.

00:05:14.320 What?

00:05:15.220 It's okay.

00:05:16.000 Hold on.

00:05:17.380 If it's okay, then I guess the premise was false.

00:05:23.000 The only way it's okay is if Trump's not Hitler.

00:05:26.160 The only way it's okay is if Trump does not pose an existential threat to our Constitution

00:05:30.480 and our sacred democracy and our country, the only way it's okay is if she has been lying

00:05:35.360 to us the whole time.

00:05:37.320 And before her, Biden lying to us the whole time.

00:05:41.140 That's the only way it's okay.

00:05:42.400 So I agree with her.

00:05:43.340 It'll be okay.

00:05:44.080 It'll actually be much better now that Donald Trump is the president-elect.

00:05:49.020 And it'll certainly be much better after January 20th when he enters office, re-enters

00:05:53.680 office as the president.

00:05:55.200 And one of the reasons it's going to be much better is for all the talk we hear about Trump's

00:06:00.480 lies, all the many lies of Donald Trump, by which the liberal media mean there were 37,000

00:06:07.040 people at the rally instead of 36 or 38.

00:06:11.760 The reason it'll be okay and it'll actually be much better when Trump is president is because

00:06:15.880 he doesn't lie on the important things like this.

00:06:19.180 He doesn't say that his opponents are Hitler.

00:06:22.440 He doesn't say that men can be women.

00:06:25.200 He doesn't say that babies aren't babies.

00:06:27.500 He doesn't say that invasions are conducive to the flourishing of the country.

00:06:34.360 He doesn't say that an open border is a closed border.

00:06:37.200 He doesn't lie about the important things.

00:06:40.100 All the way up to the premise of the Kamala campaign, which nearly got the guy killed twice.

00:06:47.880 Because the premise of that campaign, that Trump poses an existential threat, that Trump is

00:06:52.220 Hitler, is the justification to assassinate him.

00:06:55.640 See you later, lady.

00:06:56.820 I'm just, I'm done with her.

00:06:58.520 We don't, in fact, have to hand it to Kamala Harris.

00:07:01.700 Up till the very last moment, this woman has behaved in a disgraceful way in this campaign,

00:07:08.200 even up to trying to delay conceding.

00:07:10.800 By the way, when she conceded, this will not surprise any of you who have been paying attention to this race.

00:07:17.760 It's not even as though this concession speech were some great original work.

00:07:21.340 You know, the reason she had to delay it 12 hours was because she had to write this magnificent Periclean concession speech.

00:07:27.540 She basically copied it from Hillary Clinton.

00:07:29.560 The outcome of this election is not what we wanted, not what we fought for, not what we voted for.

00:07:39.580 This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for.

00:07:43.720 Earlier today, I spoke with President-elect Trump and congratulated him on his victory.

00:07:49.940 I also told him that we will help him and his team with their transition.

00:07:55.500 Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country.

00:08:02.060 Over the 107 days of this campaign, we have been intentional about building community and building coalitions,

00:08:13.560 bringing people together from every walk of life and background.

00:08:18.460 We've spent a year and a half bringing together millions of people from every corner of our country

00:08:25.160 to say with one voice that we believe that the American dream is big enough for everyone.

00:08:32.420 To the young people who are watching, it is okay to feel sad and disappointed, but please know it's going to be okay.

00:08:40.360 To the young people in particular, I hope you will hear this.

00:08:44.780 On the campaign, I would often say, when we fight, we win.

00:08:50.000 But here's the thing, here's the thing.

00:08:52.620 Sometimes the fight takes a while.

00:08:55.680 That doesn't mean we won't win.

00:08:58.180 That doesn't mean we won't win.

00:09:01.200 This loss hurts, but please never stop believing that fighting for what's right is worth it.

00:09:09.920 Okay, that video by way of the TikTok account, the recount, I saw it from Ryder Selmy on X.

00:09:17.920 Totally generic stuff.

00:09:20.020 Totally generic stuff.

00:09:21.740 Just like Kamala's whole campaign, which is one of the reasons, one of multiple reasons,

00:09:27.180 that Kamala's campaign never caught on.

00:09:29.460 What were people going to vote for?

00:09:31.800 Were they going to vote for Kamala because they want to end fracking?

00:09:35.800 Well, but she also said she didn't want to end fracking.

00:09:38.700 Were they going to vote for Kamala because they want mass migration?

00:09:45.060 Because she was the border's are and presided over an open border?

00:09:48.240 Well, she also said she wanted to close the border and even suggested she wanted to build the wall.

00:09:53.980 Were they going to vote for her because she's pro-Israel?

00:09:56.100 Well, she also implied that she's pro-Gaza.

00:09:59.620 Were they going to vote for her because what?

00:10:02.440 She held every side of every issue.

00:10:05.440 There was nothing to vote for.

00:10:06.840 With Trump, love him or hate him, there's a lot to vote for.

00:10:10.280 He tells you what he believes and he pursues it.

00:10:13.440 There's one difference, though, between the Kamala concession and the Hillary concession.

00:10:18.580 You could tell during the Hillary concession, part of what made it kind of delightful for those who have wanted Hillary to get out of politics for a long time,

00:10:25.760 is that you could tell she was in a murderous rage.

00:10:29.500 And she really didn't want to be conceding and she knew this was the end of her political career and it was driving her nuts.

00:10:35.980 With Kamala, the one thing I'll give to her is she seemed relatively at ease giving this speech.

00:10:44.780 And I think it's because easy come, easy go.

00:10:47.360 I think the reason Kamala seemed relatively at ease, she wasn't sobbing or holding back fiery fury, was because she had no business being up there in the first place.

00:10:57.440 And that's what the American people know, which is why Trump won in a landslide.

00:11:01.580 This woman was obviously unfit to be president.

00:11:05.600 She did not possess the requisite mental faculties, the requisite knowledge, the requisite preparation, the requisite anything.

00:11:14.800 The requisite political formation, the requisite anything to be president.

00:11:19.920 She was, as Joe Biden himself said, a DEI hire.

00:11:25.020 He picked her because he was backed into a corner by charges of racism.

00:11:29.540 He had to pick a black woman.

00:11:30.840 The only options available to him were Karen Bass, who was a communist, Susan Rice, who was the fall man for Benghazi under Obama, and Kamala, who was unimpressive, but at least better than the other two, when Joe Biden picked her.

00:11:45.920 So he picks Kamala, and then they booted out Biden, and Kamala became the nominee without having had to win a single vote.

00:11:52.540 And so easy come, easy go.

00:11:55.080 All right, now Kamala's going to go off into the sunset.

00:11:57.840 But I think conservatives, when Hillary's campaign ended, when her career ended, conservatives were so happy.

00:12:04.660 We breathed a sigh of relief because this woman had been gunning for the White House for decades, and she had horrible ideas, and she was just terrible.

00:12:12.280 So we were so happy.

00:12:13.600 With Kamala, a further indictment of her candidacy is conservatives don't even really care.

00:12:19.240 I'm not, when I walked into a cigar shop that I would frequent after Hillary lost, the, one of the workers at the shop came up to me and just started singing, ding dong, the witch is dead.

00:12:31.140 Okay, people were really, really happy when Hillary lost.

00:12:33.840 And with Kamala, you just think, okay, another empty suit that is an avatar of the Borg, the blob, the liberal establishment.

00:12:41.700 She goes down, I don't, I don't, I don't even really think about Kamala Harris.

00:12:46.340 I don't, she doesn't even strike me as all that much of an individual distinctive person.

00:12:52.600 She's just, okay, the libs went down.

00:12:54.840 That's what we're, we're excited that Trump is in office, that Trump is going to make America great again,

00:13:01.400 and that the generic liberal Borg has been set back at least for four years.

00:13:08.220 Now, there was one little wink of providence here.

00:13:10.120 This was, this was an under discussed aspect of the concession.

00:13:14.700 But seemingly out of nowhere, as we were waiting for Kamala to concede, do you see this?

00:13:22.420 A little, just a little squirrel pops up.

00:13:23.840 Wow, look at that cute little squirrel.

00:13:26.340 It was just a little squirrel running across the stage.

00:13:28.220 Now, some are suggesting that this was AI or CGI.

00:13:35.500 I don't know, maybe it was real.

00:13:36.740 This was outside of Howard University.

00:13:39.700 Maybe it was, I don't know.

00:13:40.480 Either way, was, was Peanut, was Peanut given a little, a little ave ad quae vale to Kamala?

00:13:48.600 I don't know.

00:13:49.040 Was that a little wink of providence in the whole campaign?

00:13:51.260 Could be.

00:13:51.780 Why not?

00:13:52.220 I choose to believe that it is.

00:13:54.340 Not only did Kamala Harris sign off, Kamala's campaign signed off.

00:13:58.720 And when I tell you that I don't think all that much about Kamala, and I don't think,

00:14:03.640 I don't have any ill will toward Kamala, certainly at a personal level.

00:14:07.380 So, Kamala's campaign, specifically Kamala's ex-account, the Kamala HQ account, that maybe

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00:15:31.760 The Kamala HQ signs off with this picture of Kamala Harris and Tim Walls looking goofy.

00:15:38.240 From all of us at Kamala HQ, thank you for following along.

00:15:40.800 So they actually posted this at 5.55 p.m. on November 5th.

00:15:45.520 Now, you might read it as just a generic, okay, the campaign's over for now.

00:15:50.080 But the campaign wouldn't really be over if she got elected because she could run for

00:15:53.040 a second term.

00:15:53.980 I think this was a little bit more maybe of a recognition that things aren't looking that

00:15:58.720 good right now in the campaign.

00:16:00.580 So see you later.

00:16:01.660 And it was this big, happy picture.

00:16:05.240 The Kamala HQ account has posted all sorts of clips specifically about me, about many

00:16:13.100 other people in politics as well.

00:16:17.060 And despite all the many lies they've told about me, there are outlets that post clips

00:16:21.200 of mine where they try to get me canceled or they try to, I don't know, take something

00:16:24.200 out of context or something.

00:16:25.680 And I think, all right, that's politics.

00:16:27.580 That's how it goes.

00:16:28.000 But the Kamala HQ has lied about me multiple times.

00:16:32.640 Even while posting video of me, the Kamala campaign, the official Kamala campaign, has

00:16:37.120 lied about things that I've said, just hoping that people won't watch the video or listen

00:16:41.040 themselves.

00:16:42.100 So they've lied about things that I've said.

00:16:43.920 They have lied about positions that I've held.

00:16:46.120 They've lied about groups that I'm affiliated with.

00:16:48.360 They've lied.

00:16:48.620 They've actually just lied, okay?

00:16:51.000 And it's not just me.

00:16:51.920 They've done it about a number of other conservatives as well.

00:16:54.600 Well, that's something that you ordinarily do not see from a presidential campaign, just

00:16:59.380 the sheer mendacity, which is why it's really rich when the libs accuse Trump of lying.

00:17:04.880 By the standards of the Democrats, President Trump is the most honest politician in America

00:17:10.060 by a country mile.

00:17:12.700 It's why it's so rich when the libs say that Donald Trump, and even some people on the right,

00:17:16.880 some people say, Trump doesn't have good character, but we'll vote for him anyway because

00:17:20.280 of policy.

00:17:21.120 No, actually, certainly by the standards of Democrats, Donald Trump has extraordinarily

00:17:26.820 good character, is extraordinarily virtuous.

00:17:30.340 Frankly, by the standards of many Republican politicians, the man has a lot of character.

00:17:35.380 And also, just by the standards of politics, he exhibits certain virtues, virtues like courage,

00:17:42.980 which is the prerequisite for all of the other virtues, virtues like prudence, a number of

00:17:48.160 other virtues, more than really any politician in our lifetime.

00:17:50.920 But it's why it's so rich.

00:17:52.160 Whatever the Democrats accuse Trump of, they themselves are guilty of probably 10 times

00:17:57.980 over.

00:17:59.040 So all of that is prefaced to say, despite the many lies that the Kamala campaign has said

00:18:04.000 about me, I want to thank them.

00:18:05.620 Because I think the Kamala campaign did probably as much as anybody to send voters over to Donald

00:18:15.360 Trump.

00:18:16.360 I think they probably did about as much as Elon Musk or any of the other people who came

00:18:22.020 on to the Trump campaign.

00:18:23.880 Because of something Elon Musk said, Elon Musk said, hey, the Democrats, the Kamala campaign,

00:18:31.200 they're lying to me.

00:18:34.040 Bill Maher said, don't lie to me, Kamala campaign.

00:18:36.580 When the Kamala campaign came out and said Donald Trump wants to put Liz Cheney in front of a

00:18:40.240 firing squad, Bill Maher said, hey, look, I already don't like Donald Trump.

00:18:44.280 You don't need to persuade me not to like Donald Trump.

00:18:46.680 But stop lying to me.

00:18:48.040 That's not what he said.

00:18:49.680 We know that's not what he said.

00:18:50.680 It's insulting to our intelligence.

00:18:53.740 It's not just insulting to the people you're lying about.

00:18:55.960 It's insulting to the people you're speaking to when you lie to them.

00:19:00.040 And I think the Kamala campaign insulted people's intelligence.

00:19:03.680 I think the whole premise of her candidacy was an insult to voters' intelligence, specifically

00:19:07.800 to Democrats' intelligence, you're going to run a campaign saying this is the democracy's on the

00:19:13.220 ballot, Trump's a threat to democracy, and we're going to save it.

00:19:16.100 And that's why we're going to ignore all of your votes in the primaries.

00:19:18.900 We're going to install this woman whom none of you really like.

00:19:22.840 And we're going to pretend that we're the great defenders of democratic norms.

00:19:26.940 Give me a break.

00:19:29.560 Voters do not like being lied to.

00:19:31.940 And that is enough to push people from the center or even the center left over to the right,

00:19:37.660 to the tune of millions of votes in this campaign.

00:19:42.380 Now, there's one race that still has not been called, and it's really, really tight.

00:19:46.120 And I'm hoping that the Republican pulls it out in no small part because I sat down with

00:19:51.060 this Republican for a wonderful hour-plus interview.

00:19:54.760 Maybe it was closer to two hours.

00:19:56.740 That would be American hero and Senate candidate Sam Brown.

00:20:02.060 If you don't mind going back in time, what happened?

00:20:05.660 We were providing security for a convoy that was delivering turbines to a dam to help power

00:20:11.340 southern Afghanistan.

00:20:13.180 There's not a warning when your life is about to go up in flames.

00:20:17.600 I had three sensations.

00:20:19.840 My truck got blown in the air, and so I felt this sinking feeling into my seat.

00:20:23.060 The blast overpressure made everything go silent.

00:20:25.620 And in a moment, I suddenly realized who I was.

00:20:29.280 I threw my arms in the air in a moment of desperation that was true conviction that I

00:20:36.360 needed God.

00:20:37.540 And I screamed, Jesus, save me.

00:20:39.120 And I had these three final thoughts.

00:20:40.760 How long is it going to take to burn to death?

00:20:42.920 What's the transition from this life to the next going to be like?

00:20:46.020 And I made the decision to give up the will to live.

00:20:47.860 The miracle then came.

00:20:56.560 So we've been waiting on the results of this campaign.

00:21:00.820 As of this morning, I think the vote was we were at 69% counted or something like that.

00:21:08.500 It was far from over.

00:21:11.480 And Sam was slightly leading.

00:21:12.820 And I'm now hearing that Sam is down, that the race might even be called, that Sam has

00:21:19.460 lost.

00:21:20.500 Do we have, I'm just calling to the control room now, do we have any final numbers?

00:21:25.780 All right.

00:21:26.360 The producers are searching for final numbers.

00:21:31.640 To what?

00:21:32.380 47.7 to what?

00:21:34.740 47.7 to 46.7.

00:21:36.700 So you're talking about a one-point race that obviously these numbers move a lot because

00:21:43.420 they could be a tenth of a point away, but then a big batch of votes comes in.

00:21:48.180 Well, it's unfortunate.

00:21:49.860 We'll see how many organizations have called the race now, if it really is over.

00:21:53.360 All the more reason to listen to Sam's story.

00:21:56.400 This guy has an incredible personal story, an incredible political journey, an incredibly

00:22:01.340 tight race, in a year where Trump's, you know, won in an electoral landslide, won the popular

00:22:09.020 vote, won those swing states, won the Rust Belt in a total sweep.

00:22:14.920 And yet, many of the Senate races, many of the down-ballot races were a lot closer and

00:22:22.400 ultimately ended up going to the Democrats.

00:22:24.800 We will get to some more of those races later.

00:22:27.220 Real sorry to hear that Sam is down, though, and possibly has officially lost that race.

00:22:33.440 If so, the guy should run again.

00:22:35.000 The guy has an incredible story.

00:22:36.560 And in the meantime, you should listen to that interview.

00:22:39.380 Okay, back to the presidential.

00:22:41.140 How did the Kamala campaign do?

00:22:44.640 There were going to be all sorts of recriminations.

00:22:46.480 We're already hearing a lot of them.

00:22:47.520 This is the fault of black men.

00:22:49.560 It's kind of rich to hear Democrats who constantly accuse Republicans of being racist and scapegoating

00:22:55.260 people.

00:22:55.660 The minute that black men even slightly break from the Democrat Party, you're hearing all

00:23:01.300 sorts of invective against black men, against Hispanics.

00:23:05.660 They're hitting white women, too, as they often do.

00:23:08.320 But they're really going out.

00:23:09.600 They say, how dare you, black men and Hispanics?

00:23:11.860 We own you.

00:23:12.880 You're supposed to vote for us.

00:23:13.960 How dare you?

00:23:14.860 It just sounds like they're, you know, I don't know, Klansmen or something like that.

00:23:19.140 They're totally reverting.

00:23:20.700 The facade is gone.

00:23:21.700 There is no no more kumbaya, no more politically correct speech.

00:23:26.380 But once you get past this demographic group or that demographic group, the excuse that

00:23:32.960 the Kamala campaign is settling on, it seems, is that she just didn't have enough time.

00:23:38.240 My panel, and this is rundown, starting with you, Audie.

00:23:42.760 What are you looking for?

00:23:44.120 Obviously, there's so much.

00:23:45.460 But like, just give me one.

00:23:46.960 I would say that 2020 was a historic turnout.

00:23:50.160 I mean, the highest since the 1900s.

00:23:52.340 So if it doesn't match that, who stayed home and why?

00:23:55.920 And I think so many of our questions will come to that.

00:23:58.220 Which group stayed home and why?

00:23:59.640 Donald Trump has been running for two years.

00:24:03.060 Kamala Harris has been running for 170, 107 days.

00:24:07.000 So one of my big questions is, particularly with her candidacy, is whether that was just

00:24:13.560 enough time to introduce herself to the country and to candidates who weren't so were dead set

00:24:20.420 on running, voting for a Democrat, wasn't so sure about him or whether she could have

00:24:25.720 used a little bit more time.

00:24:27.480 If only she had more time.

00:24:30.000 This is the Don Corleone excuse.

00:24:31.700 He's lamenting to his son, Michael.

00:24:33.340 If only there was more time.

00:24:35.420 If only we had more time.

00:24:38.080 Did she need more time?

00:24:40.100 Kamala Harris ran for Attorney General of California in 2011.

00:24:43.940 And she was successful, albeit in a close race.

00:24:46.660 Then she, or rather, she assumed office in 2011.

00:24:50.920 She assumed office as a U.S. Senator from California in 2017.

00:24:54.460 She assumed office as the Vice President of the United States 2021, three years ago.

00:25:03.020 What more introduction do you need?

00:25:04.840 She's been the sitting Vice President for three and a half years.

00:25:08.680 She ran for President before she was the sitting Vice President.

00:25:11.460 She introduced herself to voters then, and voters rejected her.

00:25:14.000 They rejected her before they rejected pretty much any other Democrat.

00:25:17.480 Right off the bat, they said, we don't like you, lady.

00:25:19.380 And she continued to introduce herself.

00:25:21.660 And then the other question is, who would the campaign have introduced?

00:25:26.260 Would they have introduced tough prosecutor Kamala?

00:25:28.900 Or would they have introduced bail the rioters out of jail Kamala?

00:25:31.820 Would they have introduced open borders Kamala?

00:25:34.000 Or build the wall Kamala?

00:25:35.520 Which Kamala would they, who, the issue is not time.

00:25:39.460 The issue is not time.

00:25:41.360 In fact, the opposite is true.

00:25:43.860 The more time Kamala had to introduce herself, the worse her poll numbers looked.

00:25:49.920 When Kamala announced, that was pretty much the height of her campaign.

00:25:54.240 Then she avoided reporters as much as she could.

00:25:56.860 And then finally she sits down with reporters.

00:25:58.860 And every time she'd sit down with a reporter, her numbers would go down.

00:26:02.420 That isn't it.

00:26:03.880 It can't be time.

00:26:06.360 It can't be happenstance.

00:26:08.740 It can't be, oh, Joe Biden waited too long.

00:26:12.060 Joe Biden, on election day, was more popular than Kamala Harris.

00:26:16.820 I'm not saying Joe Biden would have won, but he probably would have done better than Kamala Harris.

00:26:21.460 It can't be that.

00:26:24.580 Kamala lost because she was a bad candidate.

00:26:28.200 She refused to have an identity.

00:26:30.720 She refused to stand for anything.

00:26:32.860 And that repelled a lot of voters.

00:26:35.000 The things that she was understood to stand for were unpopular.

00:26:41.260 And voters, you can't blame one demographic group or some other demographic group.

00:26:45.860 You can't, they're, they all, to some degree, came out to vote for Trump.

00:26:51.580 Black women were, was still pretty much held the line for the Democrats.

00:26:54.900 So you'll hear Democrats exalting black women.

00:26:57.600 But a black woman also lost the race.

00:26:59.780 So, and, and she was rejected by every other sort of group.

00:27:06.280 Now, why was that?

00:27:08.440 Was it because of misogyny?

00:27:10.320 Was it because of racism?

00:27:11.100 We'll get to those questions in a moment.

00:27:12.220 First, though, some practical matters here.

00:27:16.580 Donald Trump's legal problems have just ended.

00:27:20.480 They ended immediately.

00:27:21.780 Jack Smith, the special prosecutor who Biden sicked on Trump to try to throw his chief political rival into prison.

00:27:30.940 He has just dropped his case.

00:27:33.360 You remember, Jack Smith was pursuing two cases.

00:27:36.620 There was the classified documents case that Donald Trump had some documents in Florida.

00:27:40.840 And now Joe Biden, of course, had classified documents that he had even less of a right to have, splayed out in multiple properties, in his garage next to his Corvette, available to his crackhead son, who was selling secrets to the Chinese, allegedly, trying to sell secrets to the Chinese, allegedly, and peddling American influence elsewhere in the world, including Ukraine.

00:28:01.840 That didn't matter.

00:28:03.900 No prosecution of Biden, but Donald Trump kept a souvenir keychain from the White House, so you got to throw in prison for 500 years.

00:28:11.820 That case was already thrown out by the judge in the case, Eileen Cannon.

00:28:16.700 But there was another case.

00:28:18.040 There was the federal case being pursued by the DOJ and by Jack Smith that Donald Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election.

00:28:25.980 That case is done.

00:28:27.500 Deader than disco, it's over.

00:28:29.960 Now, in principle, Jack Smith could have kept this case going until Trump took office.

00:28:35.840 Trump had already promised.

00:28:36.640 He said, I'm firing Jack Smith day one.

00:28:38.920 I believe his phrase was, within two seconds of taking office, I'm firing Jack Smith, as he well should.

00:28:47.120 But Jack Smith could continue the case up until January 20th.

00:28:50.560 He's not.

00:28:53.160 It's over.

00:28:54.460 And this reminds us of something.

00:28:56.380 Jeremy mentioned it on Backstage yesterday.

00:28:59.260 But one of our friends here, Siaka, Black Jeremy, in the commercials, he was at the election party.

00:29:05.040 And when the results came in, he said, wow, I'm not going to prison.

00:29:09.960 Because Siaka was at the Capitol on January 6th.

00:29:12.620 And he wasn't committing violence or anything like that.

00:29:15.980 He was just at the Capitol exercising his constitutional rights to protest in the People's House.

00:29:19.860 And he was later on raided, later on even than that, arrested.

00:29:26.340 It was an obvious political prosecution.

00:29:28.560 And he said, wow, Trump just won.

00:29:31.260 And now I'm not going to prison unjustly.

00:29:35.640 Elections have real consequences, real tangible consequences for real people.

00:29:40.460 In this case, the Democrats were trying to imprison their chief political rival.

00:29:47.060 And they were trying to do it for years.

00:29:49.540 And they came pretty close to doing it.

00:29:52.260 And then the American people said, no, we don't want that.

00:29:55.700 Poll after poll showed that the vast majority of the American people believed that the prosecutions of Donald Trump were politically motivated.

00:30:01.560 This wasn't a matter of lady justice being blind.

00:30:04.780 This was a matter of thug Democrats shredding the Constitution to wield the state to imprison their political enemies like happens in tinpot dictatorships and banana republics.

00:30:17.340 It was a national disgrace.

00:30:20.180 And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the entire Democrat apparatus should go down in infamy for their actions.

00:30:28.980 And now that's over.

00:30:31.560 There is a real irony.

00:30:33.460 We're talking about winks of providence, a little squirrel at Kamala's speech.

00:30:37.440 Little winks of providence.

00:30:39.020 Democrats have been telling us democracy is on the ballot.

00:30:41.420 Our Constitution is on the ballot for this whole election.

00:30:44.960 And that might have ended up being true.

00:30:48.680 Because Trump wins and all of a sudden the political prosecutions, persecutions, they just disappear.

00:30:56.660 Had Trump lost, good people would have gone to prison for disagreeing with Kamala and Joe Biden.

00:31:03.120 Good people would have—the president of the United States, former president, chief political rival to the Dems, very possibly would have gone to prison.

00:31:10.400 Very likely, perhaps, would have gone to prison.

00:31:12.060 That would have represented far nearer an existential threat to our democracy than anything Donald Trump has ever said or done.

00:31:21.200 Now, the question is, are we going to get pardons?

00:31:23.660 I sure hope we will.

00:31:25.800 I hope for the majority of January 6thers who did very little, if anything, wrong on January 6th and who have sat in federal prison and who have had their records destroyed.

00:31:37.320 I hope those people receive full pardons for the pro-lifers who have been unjustly imprisoned by Democrats for violations of the FACE Act, this Bill Clinton-era law that was dishonest from the start.

00:31:54.400 It said that it was going to protect access to abortion mills, but also to pregnancy centers and houses of worship.

00:32:01.700 That's how they sold it.

00:32:02.540 You know, it was going to protect everybody.

00:32:03.680 And it is not used to protect pro-life pregnancy centers, is not used to protect churches.

00:32:08.740 Churches can be vandalized.

00:32:10.080 Pro-life pregnancy centers can be burned down.

00:32:11.860 Forget about the FACE Act.

00:32:13.200 The FACE Act is used to imprison Christian grandmothers who peacefully demonstrate at baby killing sites.

00:32:20.820 And there are people, it shouldn't be totally a matter of age or sex, but I think it really drives the point home.

00:32:29.820 There are 75-year-old grandmas who are sitting in federal prison right now because they peacefully demonstrated and objected and prayed about babies who are being slaughtered by Democrats.

00:32:43.260 As they said, please, please don't kill the babies.

00:32:45.620 And they're peaceful.

00:32:46.000 They're not throwing fists.

00:32:47.040 They're just at abortion clinics saying, please don't kill the babies.

00:32:50.780 They go to federal prison for that.

00:32:52.220 It would be wonderful if President Trump would issue full pardons to all of those people, all of the peaceful pro-lifers who just say no thanks.

00:33:03.000 And then furthermore, I know I'm very happy to say there are lawmakers who listen to this show.

00:33:07.900 There are people in political power who listen to this show at the state, and in this case, the federal level.

00:33:13.960 The FACE Act has to go.

00:33:16.040 The FACE Act is a disgusting law.

00:33:18.220 It is a grave injustice.

00:33:19.880 It does not do what it said it would do.

00:33:22.500 It was sold on a lie, and it is used exclusively to persecute some of the best people in our country, peaceful Christians who just pray that we stop killing babies.

00:33:34.980 It has been successfully wielded against those people.

00:33:37.720 It's got to go.

00:33:38.440 And I really hope, assuming we have a Republican House and a Republican Senate, we know we have the Republican White House,

00:33:43.300 it would be a wonderful thing if we finally repealed that grave injustice of the FACE Act and pardoned everyone who's been unjustly prosecuted under it.

00:33:54.560 Now, we heard a little bit of the news about Sam Brown in Nevada just moments ago.

00:34:00.160 We're still waiting to see what the House is going to look like because a lot of the seats that were crucial were in New York and California.

00:34:07.940 And we know the more liberal a state is, the less likely it is to conduct its elections in an efficient and transparent way.

00:34:14.400 So we're still waiting on the results from the House.

00:34:16.980 What about those Senate seats?

00:34:19.380 We'll get to that in a moment.

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00:34:53.380 My favorite comment yesterday is from SandyK067, who says,

00:34:57.700 I'm a woman who voted for Trump because I don't want my young nieces to share a shower at school with the guys,

00:35:03.860 and I don't want any of them growing up to be ashamed of the color of their skin.

00:35:06.920 Many such cases.

00:35:09.760 You're going to hear that the election of Trump, it's just a war on women,

00:35:14.660 and it's because of the patriarchy and the white men and the however.

00:35:21.800 A lot of women voted for Trump.

00:35:24.020 A lot of women voted for Trump.

00:35:25.220 A lot of non-white people voted for Trump.

00:35:26.860 And that issue, that issue which the geniuses of our political establishment mock,

00:35:32.840 they say, who cares about this social issue of trans identity?

00:35:37.120 That was a big issue for a lot of people, and a lot of people in the center and on the center left.

00:35:41.720 And it gets down to what Bill Maher said and Elon Musk said, don't lie to me.

00:35:46.120 Don't lie to me and say that a man is a woman.

00:35:48.000 Don't lie to me and say that a husky Hank stripping down in my little girl's locker room at the public pool is okay.

00:35:54.620 Don't lie to me.

00:35:56.220 It's very disrespectful.

00:35:57.900 And the voters expressed their offense at that disrespect at the ballot box.

00:36:02.880 Now, it's not all sunshine and roses, as I alluded to earlier.

00:36:07.240 In those swing states, some of the Senate elections not going all that well.

00:36:10.820 Now, Alyssa Slotkin, the Democrat in Michigan, has defeated Republican Mike Rogers.

00:36:18.620 That is unfortunate, but CNN projected that last night.

00:36:23.860 This is really unfortunate.

00:36:25.860 What does this tell us?

00:36:27.000 It tells us something that I mentioned on the backstage show yesterday.

00:36:30.780 I may have mentioned it on my show.

00:36:32.060 It's all kind of blurring because we've just been on air more or less all the time for about 72 hours now.

00:36:37.260 It means that Trump did better than the down-ballot races.

00:36:42.040 It means that there were people in Michigan who came out to vote for Trump and then either didn't vote down the ballot or voted for Democrats down the ballot.

00:36:54.640 They came out.

00:36:55.460 They love Trump.

00:36:56.520 They don't necessarily love the Republican Party.

00:36:58.600 They don't necessarily care about the other candidates.

00:37:00.640 Which means that for the Republicans who have said for years, oh, you know, Trump, he's an imperfect vessel.

00:37:09.900 As if they're not imperfect.

00:37:11.500 You know, as if they're just so perfect to these guys.

00:37:13.800 They say, this Trump, he's imperfect.

00:37:16.520 This Trump, he, you know, his policies are basically okay.

00:37:20.360 We can tolerate it.

00:37:21.040 There would be so many better Republicans.

00:37:23.060 If only we picked another Republican in the 2016 primary.

00:37:25.960 If only we picked another Republican in the 2024 primary.

00:37:28.920 Oh, I guess we'll tolerate this Trump.

00:37:30.860 He's just a weak candidate relative to the field.

00:37:33.540 And, oh, this Trump.

00:37:37.160 When you look at what happened in the swing states and the Senate races and down-ballot.

00:37:41.780 What we conclude is Trump is actually a better candidate than most of those other Republicans.

00:37:49.780 Trump is not only, you know, this guy that we tolerate.

00:37:53.560 Okay, he squeaked across the finish line.

00:37:56.340 Trump has done better than other Republicans.

00:37:59.820 He is a positively good candidate.

00:38:02.860 If it were possible to have more candidates like him, that would probably be a good idea.

00:38:08.200 Especially now that the Republican coalition has changed because of and under Donald Trump.

00:38:15.220 Changed in a positive way.

00:38:16.800 That allowed Republicans to win even the popular vote for the first time in 20 years.

00:38:21.280 It's too bad.

00:38:22.080 I really like Mike Rogers.

00:38:23.200 I was really hoping he'd pull it out in Michigan.

00:38:26.100 But there are people who came out, they just wanted to vote for Trump.

00:38:28.820 They didn't care about the other Republicans.

00:38:30.300 Maybe they prefer Democrats even to other Republicans.

00:38:33.540 That means that the other Republicans need to learn from Trump.

00:38:37.340 And I don't want to hear any more of these self-appointed geniuses.

00:38:40.880 Say, oh, actually, you know what Trump really should do?

00:38:42.840 Trump really should just behave more like the generic establishment Republicans.

00:38:46.500 No, Trump does better than they do.

00:38:47.980 If only Trump ran like X primary candidate or Y primary candidate or Mitt Romney or John McCain.

00:38:55.400 No, Trump did better than those guys.

00:38:57.860 All those other guys should be emulating him, as many of them are.

00:39:01.420 Another bit of bad news.

00:39:02.680 Tammy Baldwin has beaded.

00:39:04.940 You can tell I've slept so well in the last few days.

00:39:07.780 How can you sleep when you're so full of joy and covfefe?

00:39:10.900 Tammy Baldwin has beat out Eric Hovde.

00:39:14.480 This is in the Wisconsin race.

00:39:17.120 I was really hopeful about the Wisconsin race.

00:39:20.020 CNN also projected last night that the Democrat was going to win there.

00:39:23.260 This is unfortunate because we started to get really bullish.

00:39:26.040 We wanted to take back the Senate, and that was basically baked in already because West

00:39:31.860 Virginia was going to flip with Democrat Joe Manchin's retirement.

00:39:35.180 A Republican was more or less guaranteed to win that.

00:39:37.240 So, okay, that flips power.

00:39:38.780 Chuck Schumer is no longer the Senate majority leader.

00:39:40.980 Especially now, you've got a Republican in the White House, so the vice president's going

00:39:44.620 to be the tie-breaking vote.

00:39:45.580 If it comes down to a tie-breaking vote, things are looking good in the Senate, but we want

00:39:48.860 to build on that.

00:39:49.920 We don't want a slim majority.

00:39:51.460 We don't want it to be 50-50 with a tie-breaking vote or 51-49.

00:39:55.080 We want 52, 53, 54.

00:39:57.020 By the end of election night, we were hearing, we might have 55 seats for the Republicans in

00:40:00.600 the Senate.

00:40:01.840 That's not going to happen anymore.

00:40:03.040 So, when I checked the race, the Nevada race, it was more or less tied, and Sam Brown was

00:40:10.960 actually a little bit ahead with 47.3%.

00:40:13.200 That's obviously changed, and now they've called the race.

00:40:16.140 That's too bad.

00:40:17.320 Arizona, 68% of the vote in.

00:40:20.360 Cary Lake versus Ruben Gallego.

00:40:22.800 Cary Lake has struggled in that race.

00:40:25.720 Gallego, 50.2%.

00:40:27.420 To Cary Lake's 47.8%.

00:40:30.040 That is a bigger margin.

00:40:32.000 That's going to be tougher to make up.

00:40:33.260 Now, again, 68% reporting.

00:40:35.200 We'll see what happens.

00:40:36.300 It would be good if we got another Republican senator in there, but not looking great.

00:40:40.660 Pennsylvania, hey, control room.

00:40:42.300 While I've been on air, have they called Pennsylvania yet?

00:40:46.280 They're checking.

00:40:47.260 Okay, last I checked, you had 98% of the vote in.

00:40:50.780 So, you had basically all the ballots in, and the race was 48.9 to 48.5.

00:40:57.620 Four-tenths of a percentage point separated this race.

00:40:59.760 And the Republican, Dave McCormick, was in the lead over Democrat Bob Casey.

00:41:03.600 This was really good news, because the last time we had a Senate race in Pennsylvania,

00:41:08.240 in the Republican primary, had Dave McCormick, who was a little more of a business Republican.

00:41:12.880 He's not the most rock-ribbed, far-right Republican there is.

00:41:15.620 However, it's Pennsylvania, so it's tough to run a really tried-and-true right winger.

00:41:21.320 And I thought McCormick was a more compelling candidate than, say, Dr. Oz.

00:41:25.320 Dr. Oz went down in flames, unfortunately, in that race.

00:41:28.480 McCormick seems to be doing pretty well for now, but this is a nail-biter.

00:41:32.300 They have not called the race yet.

00:41:33.340 They still have not called it.

00:41:34.360 Okay, so who knows what we are over 98% now of ballots in.

00:41:38.980 This is going to take a while.

00:41:40.280 We're going to be waiting on these results, I suspect, for a long time.

00:41:44.200 How about the House majority?

00:41:45.540 House majority remains too close to call.

00:41:48.400 So, we'll see.

00:41:51.000 I'm still confident the Republicans are going to have the majority.

00:41:54.580 It would be good for the Trump administration to have the House, because then you could make

00:41:59.640 the laws.

00:42:00.000 You'd have unified government.

00:42:00.920 You'd have the House.

00:42:01.380 You'd have the Senate.

00:42:01.800 You'd have the White House.

00:42:02.500 You'd have the Supreme Court in a relatively reliable way.

00:42:06.220 Wow, that is great.

00:42:09.080 Regardless, though, of how the House goes, Trump clearly has a mandate to govern.

00:42:16.220 And this is different.

00:42:17.260 In 2016, Trump did not clearly have a mandate to govern.

00:42:21.820 In 2016, it was a real messy, tough race.

00:42:25.000 And he won.

00:42:27.000 And it was awesome.

00:42:28.660 But the Democrats could still say that he lost the popular vote.

00:42:33.240 Democrats could still drag up all this nonsense, the Russia hoax that they cooked up between

00:42:37.860 the FBI and the Democrats.

00:42:39.060 They could still drag up all of these non-traversies and scandals.

00:42:42.380 Here, though, there is nothing else for them to dig up or to contrive or to invent.

00:42:47.740 Every scandal that they could possibly try to throw on Trump, they've already done it.

00:42:52.080 They've thrown everything at him, prosecutions, the justification for assassination.

00:42:56.600 None of it worked.

00:42:57.520 Trump won by even more this time.

00:42:59.540 And he won among a greater variety of voters.

00:43:01.920 And he even won the popular vote.

00:43:03.900 This man has a mandate to govern, which makes me think this will be better than the first term.

00:43:09.140 And it very likely will be better.

00:43:10.880 Okay, before we go, who else do we blame?

00:43:13.980 We got to get a little bit of the tears from the libs.

00:43:17.660 Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe.

00:43:21.060 He's throwing shade at the black men, at the Hispanic men.

00:43:25.640 He says the black and Hispanic men, they hate women.

00:43:29.320 And the Hispanics generally hate black people.

00:43:33.120 It must be the maturing of America.

00:43:35.780 Well, I just say really quickly, too.

00:43:39.040 Democrats need to be mature.

00:43:40.880 And they need to be honest.

00:43:43.080 And they need to say, yes, there is.

00:43:45.440 There's misogyny.

00:43:47.300 But it's not just misogyny from white men.

00:43:50.360 It's misogyny from Hispanic men.

00:43:53.200 Right.

00:43:53.680 It's misogyny from black men.

00:43:55.520 Things we've all been talking about who do not want a woman leading them.

00:43:59.500 It might be race issues with Hispanics.

00:44:03.520 They don't want a black woman as president.

00:44:06.060 You know, the Democratic Party, I've always found when you're sitting around talking, they love to just sort of balkanize everybody into these separate groups and say, oh, white people don't like women and black people.

00:44:23.040 No, this is it is time for the Democrats to say, OK, and you and I have talked about this before.

00:44:29.300 A lot of Hispanic voters have problems with black candidates.

00:44:33.840 There it is.

00:44:35.040 All right.

00:44:35.380 No more of this only going after the white guy.

00:44:37.900 That's implausible now.

00:44:39.280 So here comes morning joke.

00:44:40.680 Gloves are off.

00:44:41.660 How dare you, black men?

00:44:43.340 How dare you, Hispanics?

00:44:45.380 You're supposed to be on my team.

00:44:46.680 Do what I say.

00:44:48.200 It's because they're misogynistic.

00:44:49.800 OK, if the Trump victory is attributable to misogyny, how do you explain that Trump did better among women this time than he did last time?

00:44:57.900 Women did not support Kamala Harris.

00:45:02.620 Hillary Clinton won women by 13 points in 2016.

00:45:06.320 Joe Biden won women, it appears, by 15 points in 2020.

00:45:11.600 Harris got women by just 10 points.

00:45:13.340 Women were less likely to support Harris than the other guys.

00:45:16.340 Young women actually came out for Trump in greater numbers than they did in 2020.

00:45:23.820 How do you explain that?

00:45:24.840 If it's about anti-black racism or something, how do you explain the fact that Trump got significantly greater chunk of the black vote, specifically black men, this time around?

00:45:32.980 As even Morning Joe is admitting here.

00:45:35.200 What does this tell you?

00:45:36.160 It tells you the left is more willing to change the target of their smears rather than the substance of their smears.

00:45:45.040 That's a really important takeaway.

00:45:46.900 Lock that one away because that's going to remain true for a long time.

00:45:51.720 All the Democrats have is you're a racist, you're a misogynist, you hate this group, you hate that group.

00:45:57.760 That's all they've got.

00:45:58.820 They don't have anything else.

00:46:00.420 They previously have just wielded that against white people.

00:46:04.120 They're no longer just wielding it against white people.

00:46:06.340 That's implausible after this race.

00:46:07.700 So they say, actually, you black people, you hate black people.

00:46:11.200 I don't know.

00:46:11.460 You hate, hey, you Hispanic people.

00:46:13.060 Hey, you women, you hate women.

00:46:15.040 That's it.

00:46:16.040 All they got is the racism and misogyny.

00:46:17.940 So they can't change the subject.

00:46:19.500 They can't change the substance.

00:46:21.200 They've only got to change the target.

00:46:23.900 Okay, there's so much more that's happened.

00:46:25.520 But we have to pause it here for the proper Michael Knowles show.

00:46:29.940 We are now going to continue our live coverage because everyone's just so excited and we're

00:46:37.020 all just giddy and dancing.

00:46:38.680 So we're going to remain live for everyone on YouTube, on the social media platforms,

00:46:43.620 on X, until Mr. Shapiro comes on.

00:46:47.040 I'm going to be taking some of your questions on this iPad.

00:46:49.640 However, I'm not taking them from the hoi polloi.

00:46:51.700 I love all of you out there who are watching YouTube land and X.

00:46:54.480 However, if you want to ask questions, if you want to get your comments read, you have

00:46:58.560 to join Daily Wire Plus.

00:47:00.100 We also have Phil Labonte coming up.

00:47:03.020 That's right.

00:47:03.480 We have one of the great stars of the Tim Pool universe coming up.

00:47:09.680 First, though, a little bit from the iPad.

00:47:12.620 Woo-hoo, Michael, says Mr. Mark Rama.

00:47:14.820 Woo-hoo.

00:47:15.840 What's up, D.W. Chrissy, iPad time.

00:47:18.940 Would Kamala have gone after the homeschooling family, says TradWive4547?

00:47:23.520 For sure.

00:47:24.400 Yeah, are you kidding me?

00:47:25.440 The Biden-Harris administration was spying on Catholic churches, parishes that they viewed

00:47:32.220 as too traditionalist, and equating them with terrorists and domestic extremists.

00:47:36.980 They were peddling all sorts of craziness through their educational regulations, forcing

00:47:41.920 transgenderism into schools.

00:47:43.680 They hate school choice.

00:47:45.060 They're totally in the pocket of the teachers' unions.

00:47:46.940 Yeah, for sure.

00:47:48.120 Especially now that homeschooling is exploding.

00:47:49.680 Hey, Michael, says Victorian Lady Esquire.

00:47:55.100 Hey, what's up?

00:47:55.740 How you doing, Victorian Lady Esquire?

00:47:58.000 Creamy Bucket.

00:47:58.720 Sexy Mike, are you excited that literal Hitler is president again?

00:48:01.900 What a question.

00:48:03.160 What a way to put it.

00:48:04.860 That's Kamala.

00:48:05.620 Hey, everyone.

00:48:08.160 We're all a little bit dejected that Hitler got elected president, but it's going to be

00:48:12.840 okay.

00:48:13.980 It's okay that literally Hitler is going to be governing us.

00:48:17.040 It's okay.

00:48:17.680 All right?

00:48:18.400 Just keep fighting.

00:48:19.100 Ha, ha, ha.

00:48:20.020 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:48:21.400 That was more of a Tucker laugh than a Kamala laugh.

00:48:23.360 I'll work on my Kamala laugh.

00:48:24.740 What a special week, says Catherine.

00:48:26.960 Ha, I am special, says Hatelyan.

00:48:35.360 Mr. L. Trell, until the end of time.

00:48:38.800 A lot of people just saying good morning.

00:48:42.040 Michael, what was for breakfast?

00:48:43.540 Says Napic Art.

00:48:44.180 Okay, finally, people are asking the important questions.

00:48:46.820 Sweet little Alisa, my beautiful saintly wife,

00:48:49.880 made me a lovely cheese omelet with some nice prosciutto with a little crisp on it,

00:48:54.220 and then a homemade waffle, a couple homemade waffles with a little drizzle of syrup.

00:48:58.120 Not too much.

00:48:58.900 You know, we got to fit into my smoking jacket.

00:49:00.760 And a nice shot of espresso.

00:49:02.160 It was delicious.

00:49:03.240 Delicious.

00:49:05.040 Multiple people asking me about my breakfast.

00:49:08.380 Wow.

00:49:10.360 A lot of people talking about Hitler.

00:49:13.640 Chicken soup.

00:49:14.320 Michael, Michael, Michael.

00:49:14.920 I saw a friend yesterday.

00:49:15.560 He said, I look happy.

00:49:16.580 I've never been told I look happy.

00:49:18.260 And he said he could tell.

00:49:19.540 I'm just so freaking happy.

00:49:20.640 I had a friend of mine tell me.

00:49:22.100 I had dinner with some friends last night.

00:49:23.620 And they said that they think their neighbors now know their political views

00:49:28.600 because they were out walking in the morning.

00:49:31.480 And they said, oh, hey, good morning.

00:49:33.600 How's it going?

00:49:34.760 And the neighbor said, how's it?

00:49:39.780 You know, and I think that probably gave it away.

00:49:42.100 If you had a little bit too much of a smile on your face yesterday,

00:49:44.700 a little too much pep in your step, people know the secret is out.

00:49:49.620 Watch out.

00:49:50.380 Watch out.

00:49:51.420 Though the lips seem so dispirited at this point,

00:49:53.260 I don't even know that they're going to burn the cities down as they often do.

00:49:56.780 Okay.

00:49:57.040 I want to get to Phil Labonte.

00:49:59.800 That's right.

00:50:00.240 Phil, one of the stars of TimCast IRL, an actual singer and musician.

00:50:07.080 You know, some of us in podcasting, you know, pull out a ukulele every now and again or something,

00:50:12.440 kind of play around on the mandolin.

00:50:13.960 But Phil is actually a musician.

00:50:16.420 He is a lead singer of the metalcore band, All That Remains,

00:50:20.140 and a famous figure from TimCast IRL.

00:50:23.620 Phil, thank you for coming on the show.

00:50:26.380 Well, hello, Michael.

00:50:27.080 Don't sell yourself short.

00:50:28.460 I've heard you play.

00:50:29.840 Don't sell yourself short.

00:50:31.140 You are an absolutely phenomenal musician.

00:50:33.660 Well, that's very kind of you.

00:50:34.880 Do you think there's going to be any room for my soprano ukulele in any metalcore songs?

00:50:39.900 I tell you what, we can make, music is a universal language,

00:50:45.760 and I'm sure that we could find a place for you.

00:50:47.400 That sounds good.

00:50:48.100 I consider myself the Yngwie Malmsteen of the ukulele,

00:50:51.560 so I can't wait to try to do all sorts of tagging and things.

00:50:55.320 You're in better shape.

00:50:56.320 You're much more svelte than Yngwie.

00:50:57.520 Yeah, thank you.

00:50:58.360 Thank you very much.

00:50:59.500 So what's your take?

00:51:00.540 I mean, truly, you know, you come from music.

00:51:02.940 You come from areas that are not full of political nerds

00:51:07.200 and necessarily rock-ribbed right-wing Republicans.

00:51:10.900 What's the vibe, man?

00:51:12.280 It was a vibe election.

00:51:13.500 What's the vibe 48 hours after the election?

00:51:17.060 I mean, personally, I'm excited.

00:51:19.360 Yesterday, like you were mentioning, you know,

00:51:21.360 you're hearing about your neighbors or your friends

00:51:23.060 that were talking about their neighbors, you know,

00:51:24.680 walking around looking dejected,

00:51:26.180 and they were walking around with a spring in their step,

00:51:27.560 and I couldn't help but walk around with that same spring in my step.

00:51:31.200 It has been my belief that the Harris administration

00:51:35.360 would be just like the Biden administration

00:51:37.580 and use the DOJ against their political opponents.

00:51:40.440 Like, I think that I was pretty confident

00:51:43.740 that there would be significant efforts to stifle speech,

00:51:48.640 to continue to go after people like Tim Pool

00:51:52.700 or like the Daily Wire, like Ben,

00:51:55.160 to try to quash dissent.

00:51:58.660 And I feel like there has been a significant cloud lifted

00:52:03.200 because that doesn't, you know, that's not in the cards anymore.

00:52:06.780 And so personally, I'm thankful for my friends

00:52:10.300 because they're not going to be fearing,

00:52:13.040 or they don't have to fear the full weight

00:52:14.580 of the federal government anymore,

00:52:15.580 but also for the American people

00:52:17.340 because the freedom of speech is important.

00:52:21.440 And that was the fundamental fear that I had

00:52:24.380 was that there was going to be, you know,

00:52:26.280 the DOJ coming down on people for,

00:52:28.820 on normal people for having political speech

00:52:30.860 that was unpopular.

00:52:33.680 That was a big issue for a lot of people.

00:52:35.860 That was a big issue for Elon, Tulsi, Bobby Kennedy.

00:52:40.460 And it wasn't, look, I hate that the government

00:52:43.680 was going to try to throw us all into the gulags

00:52:45.620 for what we say,

00:52:46.540 but it wasn't even the top issue for me, you know?

00:52:48.820 I mean, I just, I felt they were going to unjustly target

00:52:51.120 a lot of us, but I think that really resonated

00:52:54.320 for a lot of voters, this censorship.

00:52:57.160 Maybe in the same way that the transgender bathroom issue

00:53:01.140 and transgenderism in schools resonated for a lot of people.

00:53:04.460 It's not that it was necessarily directly going to affect them

00:53:07.680 all that frequently, but it's just,

00:53:09.380 it was so offensive to them.

00:53:11.100 It was so, it just really cut to the core,

00:53:14.080 you know, to tell people to lie.

00:53:16.260 I guess that's what unites those two issues.

00:53:18.140 It was the government saying,

00:53:19.620 hey, you better lie.

00:53:20.780 You better shut up and not tell the truth at least.

00:53:23.280 And I think that that really did offend quite a lot of people.

00:53:26.000 And I'm with you also.

00:53:27.140 So I felt a kind of relief, even more.

00:53:31.420 I remember in 2016, I felt surprise.

00:53:35.740 I did, I voted for Trump, but I didn't,

00:53:37.520 it was hard to imagine he was really going to win.

00:53:39.480 Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:39.880 And then I felt surprise.

00:53:41.300 I felt elation.

00:53:42.300 I felt joy.

00:53:43.020 I felt excitement.

00:53:43.680 I felt all those things.

00:53:44.920 I felt a great deal of humor.

00:53:45.980 But this time around, I think the primary thing I felt was relief.

00:53:52.420 I tweeted it out.

00:53:53.280 And I don't, I really endeavor never to take the Lord's name in vain,

00:53:56.200 but I don't think I was taking the Lord's name in vain here.

00:53:58.100 I just tweeted out.

00:53:59.080 I said, thank God, thank God that this man was elected president.

00:54:06.760 So much will get better instantly because this man was elected president.

00:54:12.000 I don't mean he's going to fix the economy, though.

00:54:13.660 I think he'll do that.

00:54:14.280 I don't mean he's going to stop the invasion, though.

00:54:16.220 I think he'll do that.

00:54:17.480 I mean, well, just to use the example of Jack Smith,

00:54:20.840 the weaponization of the government against chief political rivals,

00:54:24.360 that ended immediately.

00:54:26.260 Thank God.

00:54:27.420 We faced very, very serious threats.

00:54:30.160 And so I felt excitement and all the rest, but I just felt a sense of relief.

00:54:36.200 Absolutely.

00:54:36.920 And to your point, I agree.

00:54:39.720 I felt the same sense of relief,

00:54:41.080 but I think at least a part of my relief came from the reassurance by the fact that there was such a decisive victory.

00:54:49.800 It reassured me that America still does care about the things that make America America.

00:54:56.820 Things like the freedom of speech.

00:54:58.700 I do agree that there was probably parents that were terrified for their daughters.

00:55:04.140 You know, the idea of a man going into the bathroom with their daughter and, you know, something terrible happening.

00:55:11.760 Obviously terrified parents, and rightly, rightly, they should fear that, especially when it's state-sanctioned.

00:55:19.220 You know, if you're a parent and your daughter goes into the bathroom and something happens,

00:55:23.880 and then the state says, well, you have to deal with it.

00:55:27.300 We're not going to do anything.

00:55:28.500 We're not going to—you don't have the law to protect you,

00:55:31.620 and we're not going to be able to, you know, address your grievances.

00:55:34.660 I think that that scared parents, but more than that, I think that for me,

00:55:39.380 because—probably because I'm not a father right now,

00:55:41.640 but for me, it was the reassurance that my countrymen still believe in my country, right?

00:55:49.920 Like the fundamental principles that make America what it is,

00:55:55.300 for the past 15 or so years, 20 years,

00:55:59.360 a lot of people have treated them as if they're passe, as if they're not important.

00:56:05.200 And you hear it, like, just yesterday on The View,

00:56:09.040 there was someone talking about how, you know,

00:56:11.540 the reason Trump won was because they weren't regulating the social media networks.

00:56:16.820 And you know they were talking about X and Elon Musk.

00:56:19.440 And that is just so abhorrent to me.

00:56:22.900 The idea that not only is something as fundamental as the freedom of speech being attacked,

00:56:31.320 but it's being attacked by your fellow citizens.

00:56:34.860 They're saying, we would want to use the power of government to shut up people that disagree with us.

00:56:41.900 And so for me, the relief—I agree, it was definitely a sense of relief.

00:56:45.420 I'm right on the same page with you.

00:56:46.940 But for me, it was a sense of relief that, thankfully, we won in a decisive manner.

00:56:53.860 And that was a ringing endorsement of America.

00:56:57.280 It was a ringing endorsement of the country that I so deeply love.

00:57:01.060 Yeah, I guess on that very point, the fact that the demographic numbers were so shocking

00:57:07.740 is also a good bit of relief that, okay, our fellow Americans aren't totally nuts,

00:57:14.560 that there's actually hope for the American people.

00:57:16.540 Because, you know, when you look at 45% of Hispanics in some places voting for Trump,

00:57:24.620 then you think, okay, Hispanics can assimilate.

00:57:29.360 Oh, that's actually good.

00:57:30.740 We've been told from the left and parts of the right, Hispanic people cannot assimilate,

00:57:35.060 or certain Hispanic groups at least cannot assimilate.

00:57:37.680 I thought, oh, okay, 44%, 45%, that's pretty good.

00:57:41.380 If a group can assimilate to even 50-50, that, okay, it's like the Italians.

00:57:46.200 You know, you get Nancy Pelosi on one hand, Antonin Scalia on another hand.

00:57:49.480 You can't tell by looking at an Italian guy what his politics are.

00:57:53.340 That's assimilation.

00:57:55.040 Okay, Hispanics can do it.

00:57:56.940 Same thing with the black vote.

00:57:58.320 The fact that maybe 20% of black men voted for Trump means, great, black voters are not

00:58:04.960 totally allergic to the Republican Party in all cases.

00:58:08.640 Maybe to some Republican politicians, but, oh, great, it's not just a total lock.

00:58:13.540 The fact that women moved more toward Trump.

00:58:16.420 Oh, great, women haven't just been totally hypnotized by Democrats.

00:58:20.020 They aren't just totally enthralled to Democrats' offers to let them murder babies.

00:58:25.160 You know, if that were the case, that would be damning stuff about, well, almost any demographic

00:58:31.780 group you could name.

00:58:32.800 But that's not what happened.

00:58:34.320 The realignment shows us that actually the demographics are kind of dynamic, that they

00:58:38.720 can be persuaded, that arguments actually still work in our republic.

00:58:42.800 Okay, maybe there's a future for self-government.

00:58:45.720 Yes, yes, I completely agree.

00:58:47.400 It was an unmitigated disaster for the narrative spun by the left, the narrative that America

00:58:55.460 is inherently bad and that America inherently hates different groups of people based strictly

00:59:00.960 on their race or on the color of their skin.

00:59:03.480 There was a total rebuke of those ideas.

00:59:06.260 And I'm incredibly grateful for it because it's what I believed since I was a child.

00:59:12.900 I'm a Gen X guy.

00:59:14.860 And so we were raised to believe that the color of your skin isn't important, you know,

00:59:19.740 that people are people.

00:59:21.800 And if you make a good argument, you can convince people regardless of the color of their skin

00:59:26.180 or where they grew up or how they were raised, that an argument is something, the argument

00:59:32.460 is the important thing.

00:59:34.020 And for a long time, the left has been making a counter argument, something that I was shocked

00:59:41.460 when I found, when I realized what they were doing.

00:59:43.800 But they were making the argument that, you know, if you have this skin color, then you

00:59:47.780 must think this.

00:59:49.400 And it was something that wasn't just a subtle thing.

00:59:55.160 It was something overt.

00:59:56.360 When Joe Biden says, if you don't vote for me, then you're not black.

01:00:01.700 I mean, I was horrified.

01:00:03.240 I'm like, what is this guy thinking?

01:00:04.800 Like, the key thing about Hispanic people and black people and women people is they're

01:00:12.280 people, not the color of their skin.

01:00:14.840 They're people.

01:00:15.540 They're human beings just like me and you.

01:00:17.140 And they may have inclinations and they are going to come from a different, they may come

01:00:21.680 from a different upbringing or have a different experience in life, but that doesn't make them

01:00:26.520 less people.

01:00:27.640 They're just people.

01:00:28.920 And people can be reasoned with, people can be, you can talk to people and we can find

01:00:34.600 common ground with people.

01:00:36.720 And I think that that's one of the things that I love the most about our country is it

01:00:41.940 is a nation of people that come together because they agree.

01:00:46.400 I'm fine with excluding people that disagree.

01:00:48.900 If you don't love America, stay out.

01:00:51.240 You know, I love America.

01:00:52.260 But if you're not, if you don't believe in the founding principles, then don't come to

01:00:55.580 America.

01:00:55.980 You know, we can boot out all the communists you want to boot out.

01:00:58.920 I'm right there with you.

01:01:00.320 But when it comes to people that, you know, love the ideals that our country is founded

01:01:05.760 on, then I think we should welcome them with open arms, you know.

01:01:09.080 And I think that these arguments make themselves when they're approached with honesty and with

01:01:16.020 charity.

01:01:16.420 You know, there are so many points you're making about human nature here that I think really

01:01:21.880 have resonated with people, that the left has made an enemy of human nature.

01:01:26.780 The left has made an enemy of reality.

01:01:29.000 And people know that.

01:01:30.660 You know, what distinguishes humans in their nature from other animals is that we have

01:01:36.440 a reason.

01:01:37.100 So we have will and intellect.

01:01:38.880 That's why we can be put on trial for stealing a candy bar.

01:01:42.580 A squirrel cannot be put on trial for stealing a candy bar.

01:01:45.160 The state will just come in and take the squirrel and execute the squirrel, of course, naturally,

01:01:48.540 especially in New York.

01:01:49.120 But that's why.

01:01:50.820 That's what distinguishes us, right?

01:01:51.980 So we have a reason.

01:01:52.960 So as you say, we are persuadable.

01:01:55.120 We can make arguments.

01:01:56.160 Now, there are distinctions within humanity.

01:01:58.820 There really are racial differences.

01:02:00.380 That isn't, you know, it's not evil to say that.

01:02:03.820 It's not false to say that.

01:02:04.980 There are distinctions between races.

01:02:07.060 And there are distinctions between the sexes.

01:02:09.820 Men and women really are different.

01:02:11.620 But I think on this point, especially when we're talking about identity politics, this is

01:02:15.960 the distinction between race and sex is really important, too.

01:02:19.100 Because whatever differences there are between the races, you know, black people run faster

01:02:24.080 than white people or whatever, those are real.

01:02:27.340 But sexual differences are much deeper than racial differences.

01:02:31.060 Racial differences get a lot blurrier than the sexual differences.

01:02:33.780 And I think that this is all a long way of saying, I think this is why the transgender

01:02:39.600 issue has in itself resonated so much and as a symbol of a political program has resonated

01:02:47.300 so much, is that we know in our core, men and women, we possess reason.

01:02:53.140 Sometimes we think the other one does not possess reason at all.

01:02:55.860 And sometimes there are good reasons to believe that.

01:02:58.540 But men and women really do both possess reason.

01:03:00.440 But we are different, you know, that distinction between the sexes is the fundamental distinction

01:03:06.780 within human nature.

01:03:08.400 And so if a political party comes up to me and says, yeah, actually, no, that isn't true.

01:03:14.400 The most basic division in human nature, it's not real.

01:03:18.100 I'm going to know.

01:03:19.320 I don't care if I've been a lifelong Democrat.

01:03:21.100 I don't care if I live in New York City.

01:03:22.840 I'm going to know they're lying to me, okay?

01:03:25.700 And when people lie to me, I'm less inclined to vote for them.

01:03:29.160 Yeah, the idea that men can become women or women could become men, that's just stupid.

01:03:36.800 And it's something that I completely agree.

01:03:41.000 The people that I interact with in LA, like last year, I spent a lot of time in Los Angeles

01:03:47.480 because we were recording a record.

01:03:48.560 And I'm spending a lot of time with people that are very, you know, very progressive,

01:03:53.120 have very progressive ideas.

01:03:55.320 And, you know, when it's just you and your producer in the studio or you and an engineer

01:03:59.980 in the studio or you and someone else that typically has very progressive ideas, but they're

01:04:05.060 like, yo, this stuff that they're talking about with men, that is some BS, man.

01:04:10.780 That's crazy.

01:04:11.480 I don't know what they're doing.

01:04:12.780 And, you know, they don't want to say it publicly.

01:04:15.320 And I don't blame them because the reality that they live in or the circumstances that

01:04:21.560 they work in every day makes it dangerous for them to say those kind of things.

01:04:26.900 And, you know, everyone's got a family and bills to pay and stuff.

01:04:29.920 So I understand it.

01:04:30.820 Um, but at the same time, nobody believes that except for the most ideologically possessed

01:04:38.520 and it's people where these, the trans ideology and stuff, it, it, it is not just about politics.

01:04:47.020 It's about a religion for them.

01:04:48.580 It's, or it's, it's their, it's their religion.

01:04:51.520 Um, and I don't think that there's a whole lot of argument against that, that fits.

01:04:56.880 I mean, when such a basic thing, you know, men and women are different and men cannot

01:05:03.180 become women and women cannot become men.

01:05:05.540 When those things are, are pushed back against the, the proper response is from, from normal

01:05:12.440 thinking people, from right thinking people, the proper response is you're crazy.

01:05:17.040 Yeah.

01:05:17.660 Like there's not, no, I think that issue might have, have secured Ted Cruz, his Senate seat,

01:05:25.120 which seems crazy, but that was the biggest ad of that race down there in Texas was an

01:05:28.720 ad of Colin Allred, who was a former football player, tackling a little girl and said, Colin

01:05:33.340 Allred, and it was a totally fair ad.

01:05:35.060 So Colin Allred has voted to put men in, into girls sports.

01:05:38.840 And, and it really worked not because that it's not at the top of my list, economics, inflation,

01:05:45.120 immigration, you know, that's, what's at the top of most people's priority issues list,

01:05:49.120 but it's just a good rule of thumb.

01:05:50.980 When, when I think about, if I were hanging out in the recording studio, I got my little

01:05:54.960 ukulele there and I'm talking to some of your more liberal friends.

01:05:58.260 If, if they brought up, I don't know, uh, democracy, the Democrats made a big deal about

01:06:04.800 democracy this cycle.

01:06:06.440 Michael, what do you think about democracy?

01:06:08.180 I probably would have given it some answer like the framers of the, of the constitution,

01:06:11.820 or maybe some quote from the federalist papers, or maybe from St. Thomas Aquinas.

01:06:15.980 And I would have said probably from the ideal regime is really a mixed regime that includes

01:06:19.300 elements of all the three types of regime that Polybius recognizes as being legitimate

01:06:23.160 and good forms of government, blah, blah.

01:06:24.460 And their eyes would glaze over, or they might just disagree with me and say like, what?

01:06:27.760 I'm pro-democracy, weirdo.

01:06:29.520 What are you talking about?

01:06:30.480 Yeah.

01:06:30.680 We, and we would, if, if they asked about free speech, I would give an argument like

01:06:34.640 I made in my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.

01:06:36.680 And I would have, you know, said that actually there are limits to speech and in the American

01:06:39.980 tradition, blah, blah, blah.

01:06:41.020 And their eyes would glaze over and they'd probably disagree with me.

01:06:43.160 And, but we don't need to agree on all those things.

01:06:47.060 If I had a conversation with Bobby Kennedy or Elon Musk about any number of issues, we

01:06:52.540 would disagree about them and would disagree fundamentally maybe about some of those issues.

01:06:58.360 But that one issue, it's like, it's like the key that just unlocks all the rest.

01:07:03.860 It's the key that says, Hey, are you, are you an honest person?

01:07:08.340 Basically, I think that's what it is.

01:07:09.600 You know, are you, we're going to be honest with each other.

01:07:12.120 We're going to argue in good faith.

01:07:13.880 We both want something for our country that is even plausibly similar.

01:07:19.080 Okay, great.

01:07:20.500 Now we're on the same team.

01:07:22.180 And that's why we're all going to show up to the same Trump rally.

01:07:25.860 And it's, you're going to have Kennedy, the most prominent living Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard,

01:07:30.640 a former Democrat presidential candidate and Elon Musk and Donald Trump and a bunch of

01:07:34.560 right-wing Republicans.

01:07:36.060 And it's actually going to make sense that we're all together.

01:07:39.600 Yeah, one of the things that I continually say on, uh, on IRL with Tim, my interest in

01:07:48.300 being active in this space is really about kind of trying to separate the crazy progressives

01:07:56.280 from the normal Democrats, right?

01:07:58.880 And trying to remind the normal Democrats that they're fundamentally liberals, which is

01:08:04.480 what, you know, people that are conservative usually are comfortable with the term classical

01:08:08.980 liberal, you know, um, some of them, that's something, some, and I understand that there's,

01:08:14.220 there's, there, there are new, there is nuance, but most of the time when you're talking, if

01:08:17.680 you say you're a classical liberal, people are like, okay, they want the things that the

01:08:21.060 founders, uh, would want.

01:08:23.160 They, they're, they approve of, again, freedom of speech.

01:08:26.140 The individual comes before the state, uh, the state exists to protect the rights of the

01:08:30.860 individual, protect, you know, to secure property rights.

01:08:33.240 These things are, are kind of, or generally thought of as universals in America.

01:08:39.120 Progressives don't believe anything.

01:08:39.780 That is what the classical liberals believe.

01:08:41.280 That's true.

01:08:41.680 Not to interrupt too much, but you know, some conservatives have a different view of things,

01:08:44.400 but you know, maybe we'll get into that later on Tim Kast IRL.

01:08:46.740 Sorry, I interrupted you.

01:08:48.240 That's, that's, that's fair.

01:08:49.220 Um, but the, the progressives, they don't even believe in property rights.

01:08:53.340 They don't believe in any fundamental rights.

01:08:55.460 They, they, they believe that words are power and that's all that matters.

01:09:01.040 So what they say, um, is only so that way they can attain power.

01:09:06.540 It's, it's a, it's a postmodern worldview.

01:09:09.020 They don't believe in the enlightenment principles.

01:09:11.100 They believe the enlightenment was, was an error.

01:09:13.560 They don't believe in, in, in any of the founding principles from the, from, from the U S.

01:09:19.040 And I think that if we can separate the progressives, the postmodernists from the liberals, then we can

01:09:28.060 at least have a conversation with the liberals because conservatives, liberals, conservatives,

01:09:32.460 classical liberals, and liberals can talk and at least are speaking the same language.

01:09:37.280 Postmodernists and people that are, that are extremely progressive.

01:09:39.780 They don't even believe that you can talk in a good faith way.

01:09:44.100 They believe that words are only, only exist to exert power.

01:09:47.680 And so they'll lie and won't care because if they get their way, they win.

01:09:51.680 That's, and that's all they care about.

01:09:52.680 It's only about power.

01:09:54.180 So, whereas there, there are going to be differences between conservatives, liberals, and, and classical

01:09:59.480 liberals and liberals and stuff.

01:10:00.980 Um, I think at least you're in, you're playing the same game.

01:10:04.240 Whereas the postmodernists and progressives, they're playing a totally different.

01:10:07.160 Well, I like, I really like your point and I might take it even further, but with the real

01:10:11.820 leftists, they, it's not just that they can't talk to conservatives.

01:10:16.660 They can't talk.

01:10:17.600 If you really believe words don't convey meaning, if you really believe that it's all, we're

01:10:21.880 all just kind of grunting like baboons who are trying to hit each other on the head with

01:10:25.800 a stick, then talking doesn't even mean anything because there's no meaning that's being conveyed.

01:10:30.920 That's a really, really interesting point.

01:10:33.220 Uh, but perhaps we'll leave that there because I think Phil, if I, if I'm not mistaken, I won't

01:10:37.520 let the cat out of the bag.

01:10:38.820 I believe I'll be seeing you later tonight.

01:10:40.300 Is that right?

01:10:41.400 Uh, well, I tell you what, I hope so.

01:10:44.540 I, I've been hoping there has been rumors.

01:10:46.720 And I hope that if you do, if you do end up coming, I hope you bring the smoking jacket

01:10:51.420 because you look dapper and I like being in the presence of dapper looking.

01:10:54.840 Stop it.

01:10:55.260 Get out of here.

01:10:55.660 At the very least, I could bring those cigars that I really, well, you know, that would

01:10:59.540 be wonderful as well.

01:11:01.320 Phil Labonte, everybody needs to go watch, check out all the Phil stuff, but watch Phil tonight

01:11:07.720 on Timcast because we'll see, we'll see what happens.

01:11:09.800 We'll see, you know, it's a, we're all hanging out in Nashville.

01:11:12.140 We'll see, you know, we'll see what goes on.

01:11:13.820 Phil, thank you for being here.

01:11:15.700 Thank you very much, sir.

01:11:16.720 Okay.

01:11:16.980 I do want to get to a little bit from the iPad.

01:11:19.500 The left is a dumpster fire.

01:11:20.760 It says Catholic homeschool.

01:11:22.020 So, so true.

01:11:24.520 The left is, okay.

01:11:25.880 That's, I'm not going to say that on, on, it's a fine enough line, but I probably won't

01:11:30.440 say it on YouTube because we're live on YouTube right now.

01:11:32.660 Cause we're waiting.

01:11:33.300 We're going to hang out with our friend, Monsieur Shapiro, uh, momentarily.

01:11:37.000 The left is all emotions as Jiminy's cricket.

01:11:40.100 That's true.

01:11:40.840 It's true in a really deep way in that normal people, uh, we all have passions, but we, we

01:11:48.160 try to bring our passions under the command of our reason.

01:11:51.300 So, you know, if somebody cuts you off in traffic, you, you hope that you won't just fly into

01:11:57.120 a rage, cut that person off, pull out your AK 47 and start blasting like Rambo, right?

01:12:02.200 You know, you kind of hope you think, okay, all right, forgot my, my wrath is firing up

01:12:06.960 a little.

01:12:07.200 I'm going to, nope, we're not going to indulge them.

01:12:08.900 I'm going to bring my passions under the control of reason, but the libs, uh, do not

01:12:13.100 do that.

01:12:13.460 They shriek and they scream generally, generally.

01:12:17.500 Honest Dave, is Ben going to have his show or members block after this, or are we going

01:12:20.820 to get kicked off again?

01:12:22.780 That's a good question.

01:12:24.580 I don't, I don't know the answer to that.

01:12:27.040 I don't run things over here.

01:12:28.360 I do my show.

01:12:29.280 And then if Ben wants to show up, he can do that as well.

01:12:33.420 Uh, the Dems took Joe off the ballot.

01:12:35.680 And so the dead people did not feel represented and did not vote.

01:12:38.940 Hmm.

01:12:39.100 That's a good point.

01:12:40.040 Maybe that's why Joe law or why Kamala lost the dead people vote that can sometimes push

01:12:45.980 the Democrats over, over the limit.

01:12:48.740 Okay.

01:12:49.140 There's also one before I get, I'll get, I'll try to get to a little bit more iPad.

01:12:52.480 There is one, uh, little compilation I want to get to though.

01:12:56.100 And I didn't get to it in the main show.

01:12:57.680 I felt it would be a little too indulgent, but I would like to play it at least for all

01:13:03.300 of us here on YouTube.

01:13:04.280 Just, it's a little, maybe a little bit shot in Freude.

01:13:08.020 There's a compilation going around of people, people telling Donald Trump for more than a

01:13:14.900 decade now that he will not be president.

01:13:19.740 Please take it away.

01:13:20.760 Mr.

01:13:21.020 Obama.

01:13:22.180 Believe Mr.

01:13:22.880 Trump will not be president.

01:13:24.480 I don't think he'll end up being president of the United States.

01:13:26.380 Will he win the general election?

01:13:28.180 I don't believe so.

01:13:29.060 No.

01:13:29.380 I don't think there's any way that Donald Trump gets elected president of the United

01:13:32.660 States.

01:13:33.140 Tomorrow night, I think when Hillary Clinton wins that Donald Trump will have lost this

01:13:40.220 election from the very first day he announced.

01:13:43.880 Donald Trump will have been kept from the White House by a big, beautiful brown wall.

01:13:51.160 Clinton has 274 in the lean Republican or solid Republican.

01:13:56.180 So something has to flip.

01:13:58.780 Kentucky, where Fox News can project that Donald Trump will prevail, picking up eight

01:14:02.540 electoral votes.

01:14:04.720 Just taking you up through part of 2016.

01:14:08.560 I don't really have the time to, it would be too indulgent for me to play the whole thing.

01:14:14.220 But you got to remember, this goes back to 2011, 2012, White House Correspondents Association

01:14:18.940 dinner.

01:14:20.080 Trump has been making noise about running for president.

01:14:22.340 It's the other thing.

01:14:23.920 When people say Trump just ran for president in 16, as a lark, as a marketing stunt, this

01:14:29.680 man talked about running for president in the 1980s.

01:14:32.720 He ran a major newspaper ad against Reagan about charting a new course or building on the

01:14:40.320 promises of Reagan in the 80s.

01:14:43.920 He then began to run for president in 2000 as a Reform Party candidate.

01:14:49.080 He then talked about running for president in 2012.

01:14:54.100 There was a Comedy Central roast of Donald Trump, and he made it in no small part about

01:14:59.220 running for president.

01:15:02.040 And then he ultimately didn't.

01:15:03.100 And Obama mocked him and said, well, Mr. Trump, you're never going to be president.

01:15:07.160 The political saga of Donald Trump is not just a thing that started in 2016.

01:15:11.600 He has been looking at this since the 80s.

01:15:13.660 He's an intentional guy.

01:15:14.840 He's an intentional guy, a pretty intelligent guy, and clearly pretty politically effective

01:15:20.740 because he is now one of the most significant presidents in American history.

01:15:27.300 Forget about Grover Cleveland.

01:15:29.380 This guy is a major historical figure, whatever happens now.

01:15:35.920 Now, I am also told President Biden is going to be speaking.

01:15:39.220 Who knew that he still could?

01:15:42.320 President Biden will be speaking from the Rose Garden at just about 13 minutes from now.

01:15:48.920 And Mr.

01:15:50.020 Monsieur Shapiro is going to be covering that.

01:15:52.580 This is a real, this is a win-win.

01:15:54.340 You get to see Biden probably gloating and thrilled that Kamala lost.

01:15:58.640 You're going to see Biden.

01:15:59.460 I know he's going to walk out there wearing the dark MAGA hat.

01:16:01.460 And also, also then, you're not going to need to pay any attention to Shapiro's show

01:16:07.400 because Ben is going to be watching the Rose Garden.

01:16:09.140 He'll be giving his commentary as that happens.

01:16:11.560 But first, in our remaining few moments here, I'm so pleased to be joined by my friend and

01:16:16.960 colleague, Cabot Phillips.

01:16:19.720 Cabot, thank you for being here.

01:16:23.060 Thank you, Michael, for having me.

01:16:24.800 So, Cabot, one thing that ever since Trump won, I've tried not to let intrude upon my

01:16:32.600 show is the fact that we're now starting to lose some of these races.

01:16:36.780 Because I don't, I'm feeling really good.

01:16:38.740 And so I did, but I know you're paying attention to a lot of the constantly changing facts on

01:16:43.000 the ground.

01:16:44.400 Election night ends, Trump wins in a landslide, and things are looking good in the Michigan

01:16:50.020 Senate race, in the Wisconsin Senate race.

01:16:52.080 And actually, they weren't necessarily looking that good in the Nevada Senate race.

01:16:54.800 But it started to look good in the Nevada Senate race.

01:16:57.260 Arizona wasn't looking so hot, but it's tightened up a little bit.

01:17:00.560 So, okay, where are we?

01:17:03.640 Senate, House, what is the Trump administration, what is the Trump government going to look like?

01:17:09.520 Yeah, well, it looks like Republicans likely will get to 53 seats.

01:17:12.980 Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick holding on to a narrow lead.

01:17:15.640 We're waiting for the last 5% or so of votes to come in Pennsylvania.

01:17:18.720 I don't think that's 5%.

01:17:19.720 Last I saw it was 98% reported.

01:17:22.300 So this last 2% is taking so long.

01:17:25.240 When are we going to hear about Pennsylvania?

01:17:27.360 They're telling us that it should be by the end of tomorrow.

01:17:30.340 But again, we just don't know.

01:17:32.220 Historical president has shown.

01:17:33.320 It could be weeks from now.

01:17:34.900 We still probably won't know in Arizona for a week, although it looks like Carrie Lake

01:17:37.820 is going to lose pretty handily.

01:17:39.720 But it looks like Republicans will be at 53.

01:17:42.340 In the House, we're still waiting for a few dozen seats, actually, to be called there.

01:17:47.580 This isn't at State's Q, which the Daily Wire has partnered with for data.

01:17:51.280 They have Republican odds at 90% for holding the House majority there.

01:17:56.260 Remember, you need 218 seats for majority Republicans right now called in 206.

01:18:01.860 Democrats are at 191.

01:18:04.120 There are 18 seats right now where Republicans are ahead.

01:18:08.300 So if they can hold on to really even just 12 of those 18, they will have the majority.

01:18:14.660 Most projections that we're seeing make it seem like Republicans will end up with around

01:18:18.240 220 seats.

01:18:20.140 So a very narrow majority, which could make it more difficult.

01:18:24.120 We've seen the turmoil in the House recently.

01:18:27.000 They haven't really been able to get their act together.

01:18:28.580 So it only takes four or five of these squishy Republicans to make it very difficult for

01:18:33.640 Republicans in the Trump administration to get their agenda through the House.

01:18:37.040 But the administration themselves, President-elect Trump and his team, have been saying that

01:18:40.980 they're going to hit the ground running on day one.

01:18:42.580 They said they're totally confident they will have a House majority, and they're going to

01:18:45.880 make sure that they get those Republicans in line in the House.

01:18:49.000 The Senate should not be nearly as much of an issue, though.

01:18:51.000 I do wonder if it will be easier to get the House in line.

01:18:54.440 Trying to lead the House majority for Republicans is like herding cats a lot of the time.

01:19:01.500 However, it might be a little bit tougher when the stakes are lower, when you have a Democrat

01:19:07.100 president, I think then the infighting might be able to kick up a little bit.

01:19:11.640 If you've got a strong leader in President Trump who can really apply both sticks and

01:19:16.600 carrots to various members of the House, do you anticipate that the Republicans are more

01:19:22.300 likely to get in line?

01:19:24.440 It does seem that way.

01:19:25.960 From everything we're hearing out of D.C., it seems like Johnson and other House leadership,

01:19:30.780 Scalise, they're essentially preparing their guys saying, hey, we have the clear mandate.

01:19:37.580 OK, there's no more questions.

01:19:39.140 You know, when Democrats were in office, it might have been easy for you guys to drag your

01:19:43.420 feet a little bit and show your constituents at home.

01:19:45.800 Hey, you know, I'm trying to play both sides here.

01:19:48.080 There's no more room for that.

01:19:49.360 Republicans have the mandate clearly from the American people.

01:19:52.060 You look at the popular vote, you look at what's happening in the House, Senate presidency.

01:19:55.460 So I do expect to see a lot more pressure on some of those squishier Republicans to get

01:20:00.340 in line.

01:20:00.760 And also, Mike Johnson is coming in as the speaker in a much stronger position than we've

01:20:04.820 seen in years past when McCarthy was having a lot of trouble keeping his gang in line.

01:20:10.200 OK, so now tell me just a little bit about what happened in Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

01:20:15.400 I really like Sam Brown.

01:20:16.580 I'm nothing against Mike Rogers or Aghavdi.

01:20:18.820 I just don't know them, really.

01:20:20.240 And I had a long interview with Sam Brown.

01:20:22.540 I'm really impressed with the guy.

01:20:24.160 He was leading at one point in that race down there.

01:20:26.820 I guess it's been called for his opponent, for Jackie Rosen.

01:20:30.380 But why is it that Trump did well in these states?

01:20:34.200 You know, Trump, he wins Wisconsin.

01:20:35.520 He wins Michigan.

01:20:36.240 Why did Trump do better than the Senate candidates?

01:20:40.540 Well, we're hearing different answers from these two parties.

01:20:43.880 The Republican side, they're saying that, you know, the focus of voters was a lot more

01:20:48.440 on Donald Trump and that the name ID for him was helping and that you might have a lot

01:20:52.700 of low propensity voters that were only coming out to cast their ballot for Donald Trump.

01:20:57.400 And they just didn't care as much about the down ballot races.

01:21:00.180 And so that was impacting things.

01:21:01.740 The Democrats are saying that this is actually a sign of optimism for them, that there were so

01:21:06.160 many Senate races and even Montana where they lost that race.

01:21:09.700 Tester still ran 13 points ahead of Kamala Harris.

01:21:13.300 We saw, you know, a number of states, Ohio as well, where these Democratic Senate candidates,

01:21:18.780 obviously Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, where they were running ahead of Harris.

01:21:21.860 And so the Democrats are saying, hey, this is actually proof that the Democratic brand

01:21:25.880 as a whole can still win over voters.

01:21:27.920 We can still win elections in the future.

01:21:30.760 This was just a Kamala Harris, Joe Biden problem.

01:21:33.160 And so they are telling themselves, hey, look, don't worry, guys, that the brand as a whole,

01:21:37.540 that's not the issue.

01:21:39.060 Once we move forward two or four years from now and the Biden administration fades into

01:21:44.920 history and oblivion, we'll have a lot more success.

01:21:47.960 And so that is their general messaging.

01:21:50.240 And that's what they think the running ahead shows.

01:21:52.340 But what is the brand?

01:21:53.420 I guess, you know, to me, it seemed the reason they picked Kamala and the reason they picked

01:21:58.440 Joe Biden, for that matter, is that neither of them really has personality.

01:22:03.440 Both of those people are just empty suits.

01:22:05.980 They are avatars for the Democrat Party.

01:22:09.080 So if the avatars for the Democrat Party went down in flames, or I guess Biden was thrown

01:22:15.000 out in flames and then Kamala went down on the ballot, what's the brand?

01:22:19.840 Are they going to run Jon Tester next time for president?

01:22:21.980 Like, what's the lesson they're taking?

01:22:25.260 They don't have a brand.

01:22:26.980 Their brand for the last eight years has been, we hate Donald Trump.

01:22:31.820 We're not Donald Trump.

01:22:33.100 I saw this over and over with the voters that I talked to in Battleground States, talked

01:22:36.720 to hundreds of Battleground voters around the country.

01:22:39.040 I never heard from the vast majority of Harris supporters why they were actually voting for

01:22:44.280 her beyond Donald Trump.

01:22:45.520 The first and last name out of three quarters of Democrat voters was Donald Trump.

01:22:49.860 It was not Kamala Harris.

01:22:51.120 And so they were saying, look, I don't need to know anything about Kamala Harris or

01:22:54.420 what the Democrats are running because I'm just voting against Donald Trump.

01:22:57.360 And the Democrats were encouraging that they were actively trying to not give them clear

01:23:01.360 policy positions.

01:23:02.160 They were actively trying to hide Harris from describing how she would legislate if elected.

01:23:06.700 And so they were relying on, hey, Trump's the boogeyman.

01:23:09.340 That is our core message.

01:23:11.200 But in the future now, they're left with this problem.

01:23:14.620 Trump is not going to be on the ticket four years from now.

01:23:17.580 And so what is their message going to be?

01:23:19.460 They do not have a coherent message right now.

01:23:22.180 And one beautiful thing that I've seen in the last few days has been the blame game

01:23:26.640 from Democrats where progressives are saying, well, she wasn't far left enough.

01:23:30.420 And she was trying to kowtow to the moderates in the party.

01:23:33.600 And the moderates are saying, well, it's the progressives.

01:23:35.900 You guys forced her too far left on these things.

01:23:38.440 They have a clear problem looking forward in the future.

01:23:41.520 They don't have a coherent message.

01:23:43.120 You've got the GOP more united than ever in modern history.

01:23:45.960 And you can see that with the results.

01:23:48.520 The Democrats are going to have to figure that out.

01:23:50.060 And I don't think there's a clear answer.

01:23:51.460 So I agree.

01:23:52.980 It's delightful to watch the Democrats infighting like this.

01:23:56.040 But what is your answer to it?

01:23:58.460 They've posed all these potential scapegoats.

01:24:02.240 I'm so Italian today.

01:24:03.740 I'm just knocking over microphones.

01:24:05.360 They've suggested it's the fault of black men.

01:24:08.700 They've suggested it's the fault of Hispanics.

01:24:11.540 They've said both groups.

01:24:12.800 This was just on one cable news panel that both groups alternately hate women and black people.

01:24:19.540 They've said it's the fault of Kamala Harris.

01:24:22.920 They've said it's the fault of timing.

01:24:24.340 She just didn't have enough time.

01:24:25.820 They've said it's the fault of Joe Biden.

01:24:27.760 He didn't get out early enough.

01:24:28.800 I guess that's related to the time issue.

01:24:30.860 They've said you have Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks saying it's the fault of the mods,

01:24:35.240 so-called moderates, and they need to become more populist.

01:24:38.280 As you say, the establishment, she's just gone too woke.

01:24:41.240 She's, you know, it's the fault of the campus intifada.

01:24:43.740 So, okay, what is it?

01:24:46.860 Why'd she go down so hard?

01:24:49.700 I think the biggest reason, there's two of them, the biggest reason, she's a terrible candidate.

01:24:54.260 In 2020, she lasted shorter in the Democratic primary than Marianne Williamson.

01:24:58.180 And no one wanted to vote for her.

01:25:00.940 And the only reason that she even was on the top of the ticket is because of the anti-Democratic coup to place her there.

01:25:07.280 And also, you can't ignore just the fundamentals of the race.

01:25:10.260 It's so easy for people in the media who are pontificating about, well, who could win this race before Tuesday?

01:25:15.760 Them saying, well, there's all these nuanced discussions about, you know, the Puerto Rico comments and the unrest people have about Donald Trump.

01:25:24.460 No, the fundamentals of this race all along were what was going to decide things.

01:25:28.420 And the fundamentals were that the economy has sucked for the last four years, that the border has been overflowing.

01:25:33.220 And it turns out those two things are actually what decided this race.

01:25:36.920 And I think the most important thing for Democrats to grapple with is the fact that their prediction of states like Texas in the future moving more purple and that they were going to solidify their strong, deep blue states.

01:25:50.200 And then they were going to expand the map. That did not come true. If you look at the deep blue states, Democrats lost major ground.

01:25:58.020 So in 2020, New Jersey, Donald Trump lost that race by 16 points.

01:26:02.400 This year, it was he lost by five points in 2020. He lost California by 29 points.

01:26:07.740 This time it was only 17 points. New York, it was 23 points in 2020.

01:26:12.020 He lost New York by 12 points this year.

01:26:13.780 And Illinois, the bluest of blue, Illinois, he only lost by eight points this year.

01:26:19.780 And so these states where they are the safest are now looking like those in the future could actually be the ones that they're having to spend some money in.

01:26:26.820 And their hopes of turning Texas purple, that did not come to fruition.

01:26:30.680 Republicans won Texas and Florida by larger margins than Democrats won Illinois, New Jersey and New York.

01:26:37.080 Wow. Wow. That is because of my whole life I've I've heard they're going to turn Texas blue.

01:26:44.600 And I like a dummy. I fall for it sometimes, not every time, but sometimes I fall for it.

01:26:49.620 I was a little nervous that Senator Cruz was going to lose his race, at least for a while over the summer.

01:26:53.920 And and but it hasn't happened in really in many ways.

01:26:57.440 The opposite is happening, as you say, in their states.

01:27:00.400 That's a great relief. No, no question about it.

01:27:03.360 But I just wonder, as they as they move forward, as Trump is no longer an issue for them anymore, if they've if, as you say, they've made their identity Trump for 10 years, what are they going to run on?

01:27:15.980 And then, two, can they be honest with themselves as part of the reason they're they're blaming all of these other factors is because, as you suggest, they can't say the economy is bad.

01:27:28.280 They can't say that immigration is a problem. They can't say that foreign affairs have have gone down the tank since Biden has been in office.

01:27:35.900 And so they it occurs to me that they have this media problem, which is the media in order to point to the real issues that drove people to the polls, they would have to admit that they've been lying to the voters for years.

01:27:50.620 They've been lying about the economy. They've been lying about immigration.

01:27:53.020 They've been lying about the transgender issue, which clearly resonated for a lot of people.

01:27:57.260 They've been trying to downplay it. They've been lying about how much Americans love abortion.

01:28:01.440 They've been lying. They've been lying about everything.

01:28:03.460 So they can't. That's why all of this chatter is just going to remain so fruitless is they in as a systemic problem.

01:28:11.300 They can't get to the heart of the matter.

01:28:12.760 And Michael, they've also lied to people about who they have to support, like they've told minority voters, you have to vote Democrat because the other side hates you.

01:28:24.680 They did this, especially with Latino voters.

01:28:27.420 Latest exit polling this morning, there was a new one from NBC.

01:28:29.940 Trump won 46 percent of Latino voters.

01:28:32.220 If you look at the vote totals, if you look at the vote totals in Texas on the border counties and you look at Donald Trump's gains since 2016.

01:28:40.680 So if you look at Starr County, this is a 97 percent Latino county.

01:28:46.020 Since 2016, Donald Trump has gained 75 points in Starr County.

01:28:51.560 He won that county by a blowout.

01:28:53.580 It is the most diverse, least white county in the entire country.

01:28:56.820 Wow.

01:28:57.060 Maverick County.

01:28:57.720 He gained 72 percent of the votes in 2016.

01:29:01.460 Zapata County, 54 percent of the vote.

01:29:03.660 Webb County, 52 percent of the vote.

01:29:05.240 These are all majority Latino communities.

01:29:08.100 And I can't help but wonder if you're a Latino voter in this country who's been told, hey, you got to support Democrats.

01:29:15.440 And the reason is because we're going to make sure that the border is open and we're going to make sure people aren't deported.

01:29:21.200 Right.

01:29:21.400 And in the last 24 hours, I've seen so many Democrats posting, hey, you know, Donald Trump, he got the vote.

01:29:27.720 Votes of people that that are going to be deported by him.

01:29:30.580 Right.

01:29:30.860 And it's as if the left thinks that every Latino in this country.

01:29:33.880 We're not deported those.

01:29:35.060 We want more of those voters.

01:29:36.460 Cabot, we have to leave it there because Joe Biden is appearing in the Rose Garden.

01:29:40.300 And I bet I'm not I'm not actually putting money on this.

01:29:43.280 I wouldn't be surprised if he wore a dark MAGA hat, though.

01:29:45.660 You know, very few people are happier in America right now than Joe Biden.

01:29:48.880 Cabot Phillips, thank you so much.

01:29:50.080 I turn now to my other friend and colleague, the one, the only man who's not here right now.

01:29:57.560 I think you're back in Florida.

01:29:58.560 Mr. Benjamin Shapiro.

01:30:00.020 Yes, Michael Mulls.

01:30:01.300 I am in the best state in America.

01:30:04.100 We're still doing America.

01:30:04.940 We're going to do America for four years.

01:30:07.600 I've not tired of the winning.

01:30:08.940 Donald Trump lied to me.

01:30:09.880 He promised me I would tire of the winning.

01:30:11.600 I've not yet tired of it.

01:30:12.820 In fact, I am enthused by it.

01:30:13.960 I was telling friends this morning, Michael, that, you know, I have this growing feeling in the pit of my stomach.

01:30:19.660 It's either indigestion or optimism.

01:30:21.580 I've never experienced optimism before.

01:30:23.340 And so this is this is an unfamiliar sensation for me.

01:30:27.280 To be safe.

01:30:27.920 Let's just assume it's from all the popcorn and the jelly beans at backstage.

01:30:30.780 It's got it has to be the indigestion.

01:30:32.360 It might have been that before I let you go.

01:30:34.040 It definitely could be that.

01:30:35.460 Do you have any predictions for this this Rose Garden press conference from Biden?

01:30:40.560 I mean, it's going to be amazing when he declares himself the first female president.

01:30:43.360 Just as like the last dig at Kamala.

01:30:45.700 It's like, you know what?

01:30:46.420 On my way out.

01:30:47.300 You took me out.

01:30:48.300 So I think that it's going to be the most passive aggressive press conference pretty much ever.

01:30:52.960 Right.

01:30:53.140 I mean, he's going to come out.

01:30:54.280 He's going to make some sort of statement about how we believe in the peaceful transition about like the same kind of nonsense that she was spouting the other day when she when she conceded yesterday.

01:31:03.020 But I do think that there are going to be some backhanded slaps at Kamala Harris and her campaign because he is about it and they are dumping all of this in his lap again.

01:31:13.360 Like they foisted him out of his nomination and now they're trying to blame him for her losing and he's ticked off as hell about it.

01:31:20.440 So that's what I'm here for.

01:31:22.160 I mean, I've already vowed publicly that any book that is written by a Kamala Harris campaign insider, I will read.

01:31:26.740 I will devour those.

01:31:27.700 That's like that's my junk food.

01:31:29.400 Right.

01:31:29.500 Those are my soap operas and my wife with with British romantic TV like that's like like that's that's my jam.

01:31:36.220 I mean, I'll just read that.

01:31:37.500 I will do I will all day long.

01:31:39.520 So I'm very eager for this press conference.

01:31:41.740 It's supposed to happen any moment, which means it'll probably happen about two hours from now since Joe Biden has never shown up on time for a press conference at any point.

01:31:48.220 But, Michael, we're going to let you go and we're going to go ahead and start a good show now.

01:31:54.480 So wait, wait a second.

01:31:56.140 All right.

01:31:56.660 Good to see you.

01:31:57.320 Good to see you, Mr. Shapiro.

01:31:59.220 Good to see all of you out there in Internet land.

01:32:02.080 I'm Michael Knowles.

01:32:02.680 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

01:32:03.540 We will see you tomorrow.

01:32:05.360 Good to see you tomorrow.

01:32:05.380 Good to see you tomorrow.

Ep. 1612 - The Libs Go Full MELTDOWN Across The Country

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