The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1618 - Make America Healthy Again

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00:00:22.560 You thought Pete Hegseth was a wild pick for Secretary of Defense, huh?

00:00:27.340 That probably seemed pretty run-of-the-mill after you heard about Matt Gaetz for Attorney General, right?

00:00:33.840 Oh, yeah, yeah, that was real shocking.

00:00:36.560 Until yesterday, when you found out about the final boss of all cabinet picks,

00:00:41.060 big pharma smashing, vaccine-hating, status quo disrupting, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

00:00:47.460 First Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:00:49.560 Whoa, baby, we've got all the latest from President Trump's totally unleashed transition.

00:00:55.660 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:40.440 Biggest news of the day.

00:02:43.640 Biggest news in a while.

00:02:45.340 I don't know.

00:02:45.640 Biggest news since two days ago when Trump made other shocking picks for his cabinet.

00:02:51.500 Bobby Kennedy, director of health and human services.

00:02:54.940 Bobby Kennedy, lifelong Democrat from the most prominent Democrat family in the country today.

00:03:00.560 Bobby Kennedy decides he's going to run for president as an independent against the Democrat, against the Republican.

00:03:05.500 Then he decides, no, he's going to endorse the Republican.

00:03:08.180 He endorses Trump.

00:03:08.880 He says, vote for Trump in the swing states, but not in the non-swing states.

00:03:12.440 Then he says, nah, forget about it.

00:03:13.640 I'm going whole hog in.

00:03:14.620 I'm campaigning with Trump.

00:03:16.220 And so you had to assume there was some deal made here that Bobby Kennedy would be a part of the Trump administration.

00:03:22.280 But I think a lot of people thought, okay, maybe he'll be a health advisor.

00:03:26.520 Maybe he'll have some role in White House policy.

00:03:31.280 Maybe they put him, I don't know, at FDA.

00:03:33.980 That would be totally crazy.

00:03:35.620 Wow, Bobby Kennedy at FDA.

00:03:36.860 But very few people expected that Trump would go all the way, put Bobby Kennedy in charge of one of the most important agencies in the entire government, the Department of Health and Human Services.

00:03:53.760 And that's exactly what Trump did.

00:03:56.040 Trump posts yesterday to social media.

00:03:58.060 I'm thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:04:02.740 For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to public health.

00:04:10.800 The safety and health of all Americans is the most important role of any administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping to ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming health crisis in this country.

00:04:26.580 Mr. Kennedy will restore these agencies to the traditions of gold standard scientific research and beacons of transparency to end the chronic disease epidemic and to make America great and healthy again.

00:04:37.680 Again, you want a shock to the system, this is the way to do it.

00:04:43.380 Oh, you wanted disruption, didn't you?

00:04:45.400 That's what people voted for.

00:04:47.860 Okay, you want a shock to the system, here's how you do it.

00:04:50.120 You put Bobby Kennedy at HHS.

00:04:51.760 And yet, I'm sensing in here a little bit of that Trump cleverness, a little bit of that Trump negotiation, a little bit of what we saw, I think, in the nomination of Matt Gaetz.

00:05:01.480 What's really going on here?

00:05:02.320 He says that Bobby Kennedy is going to protect us from harmful chemicals and pollutants in the environment.

00:05:10.100 Okay, well, hold on.

00:05:11.680 If that's really what he was going to focus on, Bobby Kennedy would be at the EPA.

00:05:16.180 The HHS is now really in charge of pollutants and chemicals in the environment, pesticides.

00:05:21.660 Now, what about food additives or pharmaceutical products?

00:05:27.260 Well, hold on.

00:05:28.180 These are all the things that President Trump's listing.

00:05:29.940 If he were really just going to focus on pharmaceutical products and food additives, he'd be at the FDA.

00:05:36.160 He wouldn't be at HHS.

00:05:37.940 What's going on here?

00:05:40.560 HHS is by far the more prominent and influential and powerful agency.

00:05:45.840 HHS is in charge of Medicare and Medicaid, for goodness sakes.

00:05:48.340 But what exactly is Kennedy's role here?

00:05:53.320 There's no doubt Big Pharma is reacting negatively to this nomination.

00:05:57.360 Big Pharma stocks dropped immediately after this was announced.

00:06:00.960 And yet, it's not as though from this perch, Kennedy can totally just smack down the Big Pharma companies or the big food companies.

00:06:08.360 Or, you know, that would really be more FDA or, I don't know, Department of Agriculture or something like that.

00:06:12.440 It wouldn't.

00:06:13.420 Or the EPA, as I mentioned.

00:06:15.020 It seems to me this is part of a Trump negotiation.

00:06:21.020 He's going all the way here.

00:06:23.000 There are going to be a lot of people who don't want to confirm Bobby Kennedy.

00:06:26.040 There are going to be a lot of entrenched interests who don't want to approve Bobby Kennedy at HHS.

00:06:31.440 Just as there are going to be a lot of people who don't want to approve Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

00:06:35.580 Right now, the betting markets have Matt Gaetz's approval for attorney general at under 50 percent, well under 50 percent.

00:06:42.620 I think it's at 28 percent or something like that.

00:06:45.580 Seems to me what Trump is doing here is he's going whole hog.

00:06:50.480 He is doing what Scott Adams said is talking past the sale.

00:06:53.660 He's asking for 75 percent more than he'd be willing to settle with.

00:06:59.520 But he's going for it because, look, he's got a mandate.

00:07:02.100 The voters gave him a unified government and they elected him running ahead of the down ballot races.

00:07:06.860 So this guy knows he has got power.

00:07:09.080 He is flexing that power right now.

00:07:10.880 And he's saying, yeah, I'm going to ask for everything and then some and the kitchen sink.

00:07:16.460 And then, OK, if I've got a wheel and deal and negotiate a little bit, well, then I'm going to ask for recess appointments.

00:07:21.740 And I'm going to let the Senate Democrats fight me or Senate Republicans rather fight me on recess appointments.

00:07:26.040 And then, OK, if I can't get that, maybe I'll walk it back a little bit.

00:07:29.220 Maybe if I have to, OK, I'll put Matt Gaetz in a slightly different post.

00:07:33.540 Again, this is just my speculation.

00:07:34.740 I have no reason to believe that Trump is thinking this precise thing other than my own observations of how the man operates and my own thought that that would be a smart strategy.

00:07:44.020 OK, maybe I'll cave a little bit.

00:07:46.360 I'll put Matt Gaetz in a slightly different post.

00:07:48.780 But you've got to give me Pete Hegseth at defense.

00:07:51.020 You've got to give me Tulsi as DNI.

00:07:52.640 You've got to give me Kennedy as HHS secretary.

00:07:54.880 Oh, you don't want Kennedy as HHS secretary?

00:07:57.040 OK, maybe I'll put Kennedy somewhere else, FDA or something.

00:08:00.880 But then you've got to give me Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

00:08:03.120 Then you've got to give me Hegseth.

00:08:04.240 You've got to give me Tulsi.

00:08:05.100 I think this is something that President Trump has talked and written about a lot.

00:08:09.240 This is the art of the deal.

00:08:10.540 But then also think about these particular picks.

00:08:12.820 Dan Bongino made this point to me yesterday.

00:08:14.920 Dan is incredibly insightful on, well, on a lot of matters of politics.

00:08:19.800 But this one hit me.

00:08:21.320 I was chatting with him on his show yesterday.

00:08:24.180 We were talking about all the picks, and he said, you know, Michael, it just occurs to me.

00:08:27.240 The knock on Trump is that he demands loyalty tests, and he only rewards his sycophants who are totally loyal to him all the time.

00:08:38.260 And yet, think about the people he's been appointing here.

00:08:42.120 He's been appointing Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:08:45.220 He's appointing Marco Rubio, secretary of state.

00:08:47.800 He's appointing Bobby Kennedy at HHS.

00:08:50.300 He's appointing Tulsi Gabbard, DNI.

00:08:52.420 What do these people have in common?

00:08:56.440 They all ran against him for president.

00:08:59.580 What are you talking about, loyalty, Dan?

00:09:02.060 He is disproportionately appointing people who not only have opposed him, but who have run against him for president.

00:09:11.540 Seems to me, this was Dan's point.

00:09:14.800 He said, seems to me, he requires people who are loyal to a mission, people who are loyal to an agenda, but not people that are personally loyal to him.

00:09:22.040 And he actually, and this is something I've observed about Trump for years now, he doesn't seem to take things all that personally.

00:09:27.700 He doesn't seem to be all that petty.

00:09:29.080 He's willing to bury the hatchet easily.

00:09:31.260 Think about what he did with Ted Cruz.

00:09:32.720 He and Ted Cruz had a brutal, brutal primary in 2016, called him Lion Ted, said all sorts of things about his father.

00:09:39.580 But then, when they bury the hatchet, he says, okay, he's not Lion Ted anymore.

00:09:42.860 He's beautiful, Ted.

00:09:43.620 Yeah, I love him.

00:09:44.200 He's great.

00:09:44.580 We work together.

00:09:45.180 He's great.

00:09:47.600 It's about politics.

00:09:50.140 It's about the mission.

00:09:50.960 It's about what we all do together.

00:09:52.120 It's about the common good.

00:09:53.120 It's really not about this petty personal stuff.

00:09:56.500 And it's a little bit about the art of the deal.

00:09:59.100 Given Trump's starting position on these cabinet picks, it seems like the Democrats are really, the Democrats and the squish Republicans are really about to be outflanked.

00:10:08.400 Chuck Schumer knows this as the leader of the Democrats in the Senate.

00:10:12.000 That is why Chuck Schumer all of a sudden is begging for bipartisanship.

00:10:16.100 Now, let me turn to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle.

00:10:21.520 Another closely contested election now comes to an end.

00:10:26.200 To my Republican colleagues, I offer a word of caution in good faith.

00:10:32.580 Take care not to misread the will of the people and do not abandon the need for bipartisanship.

00:10:39.200 After winning an election, the temptation may be to go to the extreme.

00:10:44.820 We've seen that happen over the decades, and it's consistently backfired on the party in power.

00:10:50.860 So instead of going to the extremes, I remind my colleagues that this body is most effective when it's bipartisan.

00:10:56.540 If we want in the next four years the Senate to be as productive as the last four, the only way that will happen is through bipartisan cooperation.

00:11:07.880 Democrats will be ready to do what we have consistently done.

00:11:11.700 Work with both sides when the opportunity arises.

00:11:14.900 Oh, yeah, Democrats, known for working with both sides when the opportunity arises.

00:11:18.660 First off, he says, after a closely contested election, closely contested election, that was a blowout.

00:11:24.160 That was a landslide.

00:11:25.080 Trump won everything.

00:11:28.000 He won the Rust Belt.

00:11:29.560 He won the Sun Belt.

00:11:31.000 He dominated the electoral college, 312 electoral votes to, what, like 230 or something from Kamala?

00:11:40.780 And then he dominated the popular vote.

00:11:44.620 And then he won one in five black guys.

00:11:46.900 That's shocking for a Republican.

00:11:48.360 And then he won almost half of Hispanics.

00:11:49.780 And then he won 40% of women under 30.

00:11:52.160 Closely contested election.

00:11:53.580 It was a complete blowout with a mandate for Trump's leadership because they gave the Republicans unified government.

00:11:59.240 So the premise, completely off here.

00:12:02.260 But then he says, I don't, well, parties shouldn't go to the extremes.

00:12:05.500 Shouldn't go to the extremes.

00:12:06.360 In the last 15 years, you people have abolished marriage and pretended that men can become women.

00:12:12.920 You have moved abortion from something that ought to be safe, legal, and rare to an exalted sacramental right that ought to occur at the moment of birth or even after birth.

00:12:22.240 And you castrate little children as a matter of public policy at times attempting to evade even the parents' knowledge of that.

00:12:30.660 But don't go to the extremes.

00:12:32.920 Don't go to the extremes.

00:12:33.840 You're right.

00:12:34.100 That does backfire at some point.

00:12:35.660 But the left has been pursuing that extreme policy.

00:12:38.340 And in the long run, it seems to have served them pretty well.

00:12:40.220 But despite setbacks in certain elections like this one, that's why we need a spirit of bipartisanship.

00:12:46.120 That's why we don't want to become extremists.

00:12:50.040 Hey, do you remember Chuck Schumer's bipartisan conciliatory language when he was threatening Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court?

00:12:57.900 I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.

00:13:05.820 You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.

00:13:14.500 You won't know what hit you.

00:13:15.580 And then Kavanaugh did go forward with a good decision.

00:13:17.480 That was a decision to stop pretending that there's a right to murder kids in the Constitution.

00:13:21.840 And then shortly after that, a leftist tried to murder Brett Kavanaugh and possibly his entire family in his home.

00:13:29.480 You've released the whirlwind.

00:13:31.120 You know Chuck Schumer can't even be making a political threat there.

00:13:33.840 He can't even be speaking rhetorically about some election or something because Supreme Court justices are appointed for life.

00:13:43.300 This is a direct threat.

00:13:44.800 And there were many protests outside the Supreme Court justices' houses, also in violation of federal law, federal law which was not enforced.

00:13:51.040 But let's be conciliatory.

00:13:52.500 We're going to threaten to murder Supreme Court justices.

00:13:54.940 Three weeks ago, these guys were talking about packing the Supreme Court.

00:13:58.240 They were talking about abolishing the filibuster.

00:14:00.080 But then they got completely walloped in the election, and all of a sudden, we need to remember to be bipartisan.

00:14:05.140 Yeah, you know what, buddy?

00:14:06.180 I don't want to hear it.

00:14:07.560 You know what I want to hear?

00:14:08.740 I want to hear Republicans following through on the mandate that the voters gave them.

00:14:12.780 And I want Chuck Schumer to keep his little mouth shut for at least two years, see what happens in the next election.

00:14:18.780 But until then, I've heard enough from Chuck Schumer.

00:14:21.000 I've heard enough whining and screaming.

00:14:22.640 I've heard enough threats against Supreme Court justices.

00:14:24.560 I've heard enough promises to completely upend American political and legal traditions.

00:14:29.700 So that's okay.

00:14:31.020 That's all right, Chuck.

00:14:32.080 We don't need to hear anymore.

00:14:33.200 You can keep pleading for bipartisanship all you want.

00:14:36.520 I want President Trump to go full steam ahead, and I expect Senate Republicans to get in line.

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00:16:12.860 Now, the Democrats are not going to go quietly.

00:16:16.880 They don't have a lot of power right now.

00:16:18.440 They've really been dealt a tough blow, not only within the government, but also in the media.

00:16:24.600 MSNBC might be sold for parts within a month.

00:16:26.900 CNN has been obliterated in the ratings.

00:16:29.520 The Washington Post and the New York Times are admitting streamers and podcasters are totally eating their lunch.

00:16:34.160 Washington Post called this the podcast election.

00:16:36.180 So even one of their biggest centers of power, the media, really, really feeling it right now.

00:16:41.600 And they're lashing out.

00:16:43.040 They're whining and they're screaming.

00:16:44.520 MSNBC defaming the Secretary of Defense nominee, Pete Hegseth.

00:16:50.600 Add the Secretary of Defense nominee, Peter Hegseth, the Fox News commentator as well.

00:16:57.400 Because this is someone who we can host.

00:17:00.280 Important distinction.

00:17:01.900 This is someone who, you know, is known to be a white supremacist, known to be an extremist.

00:17:10.480 Pete Hegseth is known to be a white supremacist?

00:17:16.240 It's so ridiculous that I should not even be offended by this kind of nonsense on a network that very few people are watching.

00:17:24.400 That is probably just going to be abolished.

00:17:26.320 And who knows, maybe I'll take Rachel Maddow's spot and then the viewers might not even notice in a matter of weeks.

00:17:32.160 But I am offended, actually, on behalf of Pete.

00:17:37.040 Pete can take it.

00:17:37.780 He's a tough guy.

00:17:38.420 But I've known Pete Hegseth for many years at this point.

00:17:41.900 Pete is one of the first people I met when I first came onto the scene in political media.

00:17:46.660 Pete Hegseth is one of the most mainstream conservatives there is in the country.

00:17:52.760 It is so, it's not merely offensive to Pete Hegseth and his character that this woman would make this hideous, defamatory claim.

00:18:02.440 It's offensive to the intelligence of the audience that she would say something like this based on nothing.

00:18:08.000 This reminds me one time, David Webb, the conservative radio host, was talking to some lunatic Democrat on his show.

00:18:17.100 And she was losing the argument, so she accused him of exploiting his white privilege.

00:18:21.900 And David Webb started laughing.

00:18:23.220 And you might be laughing, too, if you hear that, if you're familiar with David Webb, because David Webb is a black guy.

00:18:29.660 The woman just had no idea, had no familiarity.

00:18:32.220 Obviously, this woman has no familiarity with Pete because Chris Hayes has to correct her.

00:18:36.040 She didn't even know what show he's on on Fox News.

00:18:39.540 So outrageous.

00:18:41.260 I mean, so part of me really, really hopes that Pete Hegseth sues this woman for everything she's worth.

00:18:47.740 I don't know that she's got two nickels to rub together, but she might.

00:18:50.860 She's obviously, you know, peddling some kind of grievance nonsense on television.

00:18:55.120 That can be pretty lucrative.

00:18:56.020 So part of me wants Pete Hegseth to sue this woman for defamation, take her for everything she's worth.

00:19:01.980 It's really, really hideous stuff.

00:19:03.780 However, it's worth remembering that the defamation law in the United States is such that it's actually very difficult to win defamation cases if you are in any way a public figure.

00:19:15.020 So I'd like for Pete to do that.

00:19:17.140 I don't know that he will.

00:19:18.520 It's probably a waste of time.

00:19:20.020 But given that, this is why President Trump needs to be able to threaten recess appointments.

00:19:28.620 Pete Hegseth is the nice guy on the Fox News morning show, okay?

00:19:33.540 And this woman is calling him a white supremacist.

00:19:37.580 This guy is, I mean, he's got a very serious background as well in the military, Princeton, Harvard, all the rest of it.

00:19:45.040 But he's like a nice guy on a morning show, okay?

00:19:48.260 And if MSNBC is willing to defame that kind of guy, American hero, serves his country, clean cut, nice guy on a morning show.

00:20:00.340 If MSNBC is willing to defame that kind of guy as a white supremacist, they are not going to hold anything back on any of these appointments.

00:20:09.300 And I don't want to deal with that.

00:20:12.240 I don't think the American people want to deal with that.

00:20:15.000 No thanks.

00:20:15.840 Not after Democrats have spent four years trying to imprison us, successfully imprisoning us in some cases, trying to kick the Republican nominee off the ballot and justifying his assassination, which nearly occurred twice, one time leaving a hole in his ear.

00:20:28.100 I'm not interested in wasting time and playing games with these people.

00:20:35.640 If they're going to do this kind of stuff for Trump's totally mainstream nominees, no thanks, sorry.

00:20:42.060 Recess appointments, put them through.

00:20:43.560 I don't want to hear it.

00:20:44.740 I am not in the mood to play around.

00:20:46.980 Now, a lot of people are thinking right now about President Trump's legacy.

00:20:53.320 And on the point of legacy, Mike Tyson, the great boxer, has gone viral for what people are saying is some kind of wacky advice.

00:21:03.520 I think it's 90% very, very good advice on the question of legacy, advice that he offers to a very young girl.

00:21:11.580 Well, in your return to the ring for this fight, you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to see the legend, Mike Tyson, in the ring for the first time.

00:21:21.700 So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done?

00:21:27.260 Well, I don't know.

00:21:28.040 I don't believe in the word legacy.

00:21:29.520 I just think that's another word for ego.

00:21:32.120 Legacy doesn't mean nothing.

00:21:33.680 That's just some word everybody grabbed onto.

00:21:35.700 Someone said that word and everyone grabbed on the word, so now it's used every five seconds.

00:21:40.760 It means absolutely nothing to me.

00:21:42.360 I'm just passing through.

00:21:43.300 I'm going to die, and it's going to be over.

00:21:46.260 Who cares about legacy after that?

00:21:49.180 What a big ego.

00:21:50.480 I'm going to die.

00:21:51.100 I want people to think that I'm this.

00:21:52.380 I'm great.

00:21:53.200 No, we're nothing.

00:21:54.220 We're just dead.

00:21:55.440 We're dust.

00:21:56.580 We're absolutely nothing.

00:21:58.780 Our legacy is nothing.

00:22:01.660 Well, thank you so much for sharing that.

00:22:03.080 That is something that I have not heard before.

00:22:05.700 Someone say that as an answer.

00:22:07.040 Can you really imagine somebody saying, I want my legacy to be this way when I – you're dead.

00:22:12.440 Why do you want –

00:22:13.000 True.

00:22:13.140 Do you think somebody really wants to think about you?

00:22:15.900 How – what's the adaption I think?

00:22:18.100 I want people to think about me when I'm gone.

00:22:19.920 Who the f*** cares about me?

00:22:22.680 My kids, maybe.

00:22:23.980 Or grandkids.

00:22:24.880 True.

00:22:26.860 Thanks, Mr. Tyson.

00:22:28.180 Thanks for that advice.

00:22:29.580 You're welcome, little girl.

00:22:30.580 You're totally welcome.

00:22:31.440 Yeah, very much.

00:22:31.940 It's 90% good advice.

00:22:36.080 90%.

00:22:36.520 It's a memento mori.

00:22:37.920 It's what you hear when you go to church on Ash Wednesday.

00:22:42.460 Remember, man, you are dust, and to dust you will return.

00:22:45.100 Seek transit gloria mundi.

00:22:46.700 Thus pass the glories of this world.

00:22:48.380 It's all going to come to nothing in this world.

00:22:50.320 The reason I say he's only 90% right is that there is a legacy in the sense that we are eternal.

00:22:57.900 We have souls, and our souls are eternal, and there will be an eternal destination.

00:23:01.920 There will be a final destination beyond this mortal coil, which is why we should strive not for earthly glory, which will turn to nothing, which will just decay and be eaten by worms.

00:23:11.880 But we should look for eternal glory.

00:23:15.160 We should endeavor for holiness, not just the fleeting fame of this world.

00:23:19.400 So he's 90% right.

00:23:20.820 But then 90%, really, really good stuff, and no surprise to get a memento mori from a man who could kill probably anyone that he swung a fist at.

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00:25:02.100 My favorite comment yesterday is from Shan Pasta Flock.

00:25:07.520 Michael Knowles has single-handedly added good grief lady to my regular vocabulary.

00:25:11.640 I'm glad to hear that.

00:25:12.640 You know, often people are not aware of their idioms that they frequently use or verbal tics

00:25:22.620 or inflections.

00:25:24.080 I've started to notice some of them because I have little kids.

00:25:27.580 And when you have little kids, they copy everything you do.

00:25:30.240 And so you become aware of things that you didn't know you do.

00:25:32.260 But that is a phrase.

00:25:33.120 I guess I use that a lot.

00:25:34.140 Good grief, lady.

00:25:35.040 I like it.

00:25:35.920 Expresses my exasperation and bemusement.

00:25:40.680 That's so much that goes on.

00:25:43.640 Speaking of ladies who have caused much grief, Oprah Winfrey has just been confronted about

00:25:51.560 a million-dollar fee that her production company received from Kamala Harris.

00:25:57.080 Now, you remember, I mentioned this on the show a couple days ago.

00:25:59.020 She was confronted by a guy just on the street.

00:26:02.700 She was walking around Santa Barbara or L.A., somewhere in Southern California.

00:26:06.600 And she denied that she took the million bucks from Kamala.

00:26:10.700 Hey, Oprah.

00:26:11.400 Good morning.

00:26:12.760 How are you, darling?

00:26:14.220 You're looking very good.

00:26:15.260 How do you think the election went?

00:26:17.020 Not talking about the election.

00:26:18.540 Thank you very much.

00:26:19.100 Oh, is it true that they paid you a million dollars for the endorsement for Kamala?

00:26:22.740 Not true.

00:26:23.780 Not true.

00:26:24.340 Okay.

00:26:24.900 I was paid nothing ever.

00:26:26.300 What do you think about all the celebrities with their mass exodus?

00:26:31.100 Do you think Prince Harry's going to lose his visa now that Trump's president?

00:26:39.240 Thank you, Oprah.

00:26:39.940 Thank you, Oprah.

00:26:41.320 Not true.

00:26:42.720 I did not take a million dollars from Kamala Harris.

00:26:46.200 Okay.

00:26:46.400 Well, now Oprah's changing her tune.

00:26:47.880 We have a report out now.

00:26:51.720 Oprah finally explains the controversial million-dollar fee.

00:26:55.640 What happened?

00:26:57.660 She said, usually, this is something Oprah herself posted to Instagram.

00:27:01.160 Usually, I'm reluctant to respond to rumors in general.

00:27:03.140 But these days, I realize that if you don't stop a lie, it just gets bigger.

00:27:06.460 My production company, Harpo, was asked to bring in set design, lights, cameras, microphones,

00:27:11.300 crew, producers, and every other item necessary, including the benches and chairs we sat on,

00:27:15.260 to put on a live production.

00:27:17.240 This was for a joint event between Oprah and Kamala.

00:27:22.820 Unite for America live-streamed out of Michigan in September.

00:27:26.960 So, she said she did not personally get one dime from the campaign.

00:27:31.160 She said, I did not take any personal fee.

00:27:33.580 However, the people who worked on that production needed to be paid and were.

00:27:37.760 End of story.

00:27:38.540 Okay, that's her explanation, huh?

00:27:43.880 Yeah, so she's admitting that she lied, or at the very least, misled.

00:27:48.760 Nobody seriously thought that Oprah Winfrey took a million-dollar handout under the table

00:27:54.440 in cash from Kamala Harris.

00:27:55.960 Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire.

00:27:57.180 She doesn't need a million dollars from Kamala Harris directly.

00:28:01.280 And she's too smart to take a payoff directly.

00:28:04.000 Unfortunately, everyone knew, everyone who read anything about the story knew,

00:28:09.560 that the payoff went from Kamala Harris to Oprah's production company.

00:28:13.580 But that is highly unusual.

00:28:15.440 I have interviewed many prominent people.

00:28:18.720 And when I interview prominent people, I don't ask them to pay for my sets and my cameras and my crew.

00:28:25.940 I pay for my sets and my cameras.

00:28:27.640 I'm like, well, I actually don't pay for it.

00:28:28.720 Jeremy Boring pays for it.

00:28:29.540 But it's our company that pays for it.

00:28:32.960 It's highly unusual for a supposed journalist of any media figure to be interviewing a presidential candidate

00:28:39.860 and then send the bill to the presidential candidate,

00:28:43.200 especially when the media figure in question is a billionaire.

00:28:47.540 This was a payoff.

00:28:49.560 Simple as.

00:28:50.640 This was Kamala Harris renting out Oprah's credibility, renting out Oprah's crew, and purchasing Oprah's endorsement.

00:29:02.120 That's what this was.

00:29:03.180 And it's not only Oprah.

00:29:04.700 Same thing happened with Al Sharpton.

00:29:07.740 Kamala Harris paid Al Sharpton half a million dollars.

00:29:11.380 He goes for a little bit of a lower rate than Oprah does.

00:29:13.420 Half a million dollars weeks before Sharpton gave her a glowing interview.

00:29:17.700 And Al Sharpton has been doing this for years.

00:29:19.420 He is a he is a shakedown artist par excellence.

00:29:22.440 That is his job.

00:29:25.260 Sharpton's National Action Network, which is Al Sharpton's slush fund,

00:29:29.520 got a bunch of money from the Kamala campaign,

00:29:33.380 received two payments of two hundred fifty thousand dollars,

00:29:36.840 September 5th and October 1st.

00:29:39.700 Then two days after the second payment on October 3rd,

00:29:43.180 Al Sharpton aired a video from Kamala Harris wishing him a happy birthday on his MSNBC show.

00:29:47.660 That's coincidental timing, just two days later.

00:29:50.540 And then,

00:29:51.580 70 days after that,

00:29:53.820 Al Sharpton aired a glowing interview,

00:29:56.300 just a real happy,

00:29:58.140 friendly interview with Kamala Harris,

00:30:00.620 in which he described her campaign as extraordinary and historic,

00:30:06.760 and attacked Trump as being hostile and erratic.

00:30:09.460 Half a million bucks, that's not bad.

00:30:13.380 If I were a complete con artist,

00:30:15.520 I would take half a million bucks to say something nice about Kamala Harris.

00:30:20.380 But make no mistake, that's what was going on here.

00:30:22.400 And the million to Oprah and the half a million to Al Sharpton,

00:30:25.340 that was a small piece of a larger,

00:30:27.460 nearly five and a half million dollar campaign

00:30:29.400 to pay off various grievance groups.

00:30:32.480 Black advocacy groups, Latino advocacy groups.

00:30:34.900 It's funny because it didn't work.

00:30:36.800 Kamala knew she had a problem with black male voters,

00:30:38.980 and ultimately she lost 20% of them.

00:30:42.820 Kamala knew she had a problem with Hispanics.

00:30:44.720 She lost almost half of them.

00:30:46.820 She thought, okay,

00:30:47.460 the way that she's going to win them back

00:30:49.300 is by paying off their grievance groups,

00:30:52.120 their self-appointed leaders

00:30:54.220 who like to mow mow the flak catchers.

00:30:56.320 And that didn't work,

00:30:57.000 because ordinary black people

00:30:58.460 and ordinary Hispanics

00:31:00.600 don't follow people like Al Sharpton.

00:31:03.620 And then on the celebrity endorsement broadly,

00:31:06.800 someone like Oprah,

00:31:07.800 I just don't think that works anymore

00:31:09.540 in the way that it used to.

00:31:10.960 And that's because of something

00:31:11.940 I've been talking about on this show for a few days now,

00:31:13.800 which is a major media change.

00:31:17.000 New York Times and Washington Post

00:31:18.360 are whining about me.

00:31:21.000 The establishment media are complaining,

00:31:24.100 forget about me,

00:31:24.740 I'm small potatoes compared to someone like Joe Rogan.

00:31:28.320 Joe Rogan,

00:31:28.880 whose interview with President Trump

00:31:30.100 and his interview with J.D. Vance

00:31:31.400 were both far more significant media events

00:31:33.780 than anything any candidate did

00:31:35.820 in the old establishment media,

00:31:37.560 which is the secret story of this campaign.

00:31:42.420 It's kind of below the surface.

00:31:44.060 We're all talking about the big appointees,

00:31:45.760 Pete Hegseth or Tulsi or Bobby Kennedy,

00:31:47.900 but the big revolutionary opportunity here

00:31:50.060 really is to reset the relationship,

00:31:51.960 not merely between the citizen and the government,

00:31:53.820 but between the citizens,

00:31:55.860 and specifically conservatives and Republicans,

00:31:57.760 and the press,

00:31:58.360 which has wielded so much power,

00:32:00.160 the media wielded so much power

00:32:01.420 for Democrats in recent decades,

00:32:02.780 and that power seems to be cracking right now.

00:32:06.240 The whole Kamala campaign was totally contrived.

00:32:08.760 All that joy we heard about it

00:32:10.220 was completely contrived.

00:32:11.620 It was pushed up there

00:32:14.500 in nothing more than a thin facade

00:32:17.980 because Kamala paid off various celebrities

00:32:22.600 to pretend to be excited about her,

00:32:24.940 and it ultimately did not work.

00:32:26.920 Now, speaking of wastes of money,

00:32:29.380 there's a story I said I would get to

00:32:30.820 earlier on in the week,

00:32:32.020 and I really want to make sure I get to it

00:32:33.840 because it's so deeply stupid.

00:32:35.720 The FDA is forcing Costco

00:32:39.600 to recall 80,000 pounds of butter.

00:32:42.260 80,000 pounds of butter.

00:32:43.800 That's a lot of butter.

00:32:45.800 They are recalling it

00:32:47.060 because the butter packages

00:32:49.760 did not say two words.

00:32:53.580 Contains milk.

00:32:55.780 Because butter

00:32:57.540 doesn't specifically label

00:33:00.820 the milk

00:33:02.700 that is required to make any kind of butter,

00:33:05.320 80,000 pounds of perfectly good butter.

00:33:08.860 This is Kirkland brand butter.

00:33:10.340 This is the butter that I use.

00:33:12.860 Okay?

00:33:13.320 I'm very pro-Costco.

00:33:14.760 This is excellent butter,

00:33:16.060 and it's at a good price.

00:33:17.640 Can I just have the butter?

00:33:19.480 I don't know.

00:33:19.960 Can I write to the FDA?

00:33:21.460 It's not up to Costco.

00:33:22.400 It's up to the FDA.

00:33:23.440 Can I get 80,000 pounds of butter?

00:33:25.960 These days,

00:33:26.640 in the Biden economy,

00:33:27.460 that's worth a lot of money.

00:33:30.020 Both unsalted sweet cream butter

00:33:31.680 and salted sweet cream butter

00:33:33.460 because the agency

00:33:35.220 wants people to know

00:33:36.380 that there's milk and butter.

00:33:39.000 Okay, I understand

00:33:40.200 why there are labels

00:33:41.280 on packages and things,

00:33:42.680 but maybe,

00:33:43.620 could we have a little carve out here?

00:33:45.200 Maybe a little exception.

00:33:47.260 People who shop at Costco,

00:33:49.040 they know what butter is.

00:33:52.180 Okay?

00:33:52.540 It's a,

00:33:53.620 the Costco shopper

00:33:54.820 is a sophisticated shopper.

00:33:56.540 The Costco shopper knows.

00:34:01.320 And I,

00:34:02.240 it seems like a huge waste.

00:34:03.800 But this news story,

00:34:04.780 I love this news story

00:34:05.600 because this news story

00:34:07.020 is the perfect setup.

00:34:08.820 It seems providential

00:34:09.940 to Elon and Vivek

00:34:12.700 and the Department of Government Efficiency.

00:34:15.500 You got the FDA

00:34:16.780 wasting 80,000 pounds

00:34:19.360 of perfectly good butter

00:34:20.240 at a time when it's very difficult

00:34:21.660 to afford buying groceries

00:34:23.240 because of a technicality.

00:34:27.600 They want people to know

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00:34:30.440 This,

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00:34:31.700 The butter is being sacrificed

00:34:33.180 in order to further

00:34:35.640 government efficiency.

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00:35:47.820 Hi, Michael.

00:35:50.240 My name is Katie

00:35:51.360 and I am getting married

00:35:53.340 in January.

00:35:54.940 I'm pretty young.

00:35:56.100 I'm 20

00:35:56.680 and my fiance is 22,

00:35:58.600 which is really exciting.

00:36:01.200 The only thing

00:36:02.120 about a January wedding

00:36:03.120 is how close it is

00:36:04.660 after the elections

00:36:05.460 and there is a lot

00:36:07.060 of division

00:36:07.600 because of that.

00:36:09.800 When,

00:36:10.700 the day after the elections,

00:36:12.380 long story short,

00:36:13.340 I posted a photo.

00:36:14.440 It was a cartoon image

00:36:17.040 of Jesus washing

00:36:18.240 both Kamala Harris

00:36:19.340 and Donald Trump's feet.

00:36:21.260 And I have a gay cousin

00:36:22.720 who's very liberal

00:36:23.960 and he's 29

00:36:25.500 and he commented,

00:36:27.580 did you vote for him?

00:36:28.940 And I know

00:36:29.600 if I answer that question,

00:36:31.300 it's going to cause

00:36:32.260 all kinds of division.

00:36:33.500 He's going to blow it up

00:36:34.320 in my family

00:36:34.980 who's pretty much,

00:36:36.420 a lot of them are liberal.

00:36:37.820 So,

00:36:38.560 I don't know

00:36:39.040 how to approach that.

00:36:40.240 I ignored the message,

00:36:41.680 but I don't want

00:36:43.120 to compromise my morals

00:36:44.480 and lie.

00:36:45.840 So,

00:36:46.340 I don't know

00:36:46.660 what you think

00:36:47.100 I should do

00:36:47.620 to avoid tensions

00:36:48.620 leading up to this wedding.

00:36:50.680 And if you think

00:36:51.820 I should just continue

00:36:53.260 to ignore it,

00:36:54.080 thank you

00:36:54.520 and I love all the work

00:36:55.200 that you do.

00:36:56.160 Thank you very much.

00:36:57.060 It's very exciting

00:36:57.800 with this wedding.

00:36:59.160 If it were me,

00:37:00.020 I would ignore it.

00:37:00.780 I think that's

00:37:01.240 an inappropriate question.

00:37:02.980 I don't see much benefit

00:37:05.000 to answering

00:37:06.160 that question publicly.

00:37:08.120 I just don't think

00:37:09.220 it's a pertinent question.

00:37:10.760 However,

00:37:11.220 if he asked you directly,

00:37:12.360 you should give him an answer

00:37:13.280 and you shouldn't feel bad

00:37:14.220 about your answer at all.

00:37:16.080 Very,

00:37:16.640 very silly.

00:37:17.500 Especially that it's

00:37:18.240 in response to

00:37:19.180 this picture

00:37:20.120 that you put up,

00:37:21.200 which is conciliatory

00:37:23.940 and charitable,

00:37:26.700 real charitable.

00:37:29.020 Given the absolute perfidy

00:37:31.120 of Kamala Harris

00:37:32.140 and the wickedness

00:37:33.100 of her campaign

00:37:33.840 and the things

00:37:35.000 that she was promoting,

00:37:36.500 notably murdering children

00:37:38.100 and castrating kids,

00:37:39.380 I think you were being

00:37:41.200 very gracious

00:37:41.960 and charitable.

00:37:43.500 So I wouldn't,

00:37:44.160 if anyone asks you,

00:37:44.980 say, yeah,

00:37:45.360 I absolutely voted for Trump.

00:37:47.100 I think,

00:37:47.720 I understand

00:37:48.240 that people voted for Harris.

00:37:49.680 I understand why

00:37:50.140 they voted for Harris,

00:37:50.840 but I think it's

00:37:51.420 absolutely unconscionable

00:37:52.560 and they should

00:37:53.380 seriously examine

00:37:54.540 their conscience.

00:37:57.100 I would,

00:37:57.800 I would,

00:37:58.560 and this is true

00:37:59.240 in a lot of areas,

00:38:00.460 I would,

00:38:01.240 if confronted about this,

00:38:04.100 double down.

00:38:04.860 I would put them

00:38:05.740 on their heels.

00:38:06.520 I would say,

00:38:06.880 look,

00:38:07.140 I understand.

00:38:08.360 I think you did something

00:38:09.260 really,

00:38:09.800 really evil

00:38:10.320 by voting for Kamala Harris,

00:38:11.700 but I love you anyway

00:38:12.700 and I understand

00:38:13.640 why you would do it.

00:38:14.520 I get the rationale for it.

00:38:16.260 It was very,

00:38:17.040 very evil,

00:38:17.520 but don't worry,

00:38:18.080 I forgive you.

00:38:19.220 That's what I would do.

00:38:20.020 They want to put you

00:38:20.640 on your heels.

00:38:21.560 How could you possibly

00:38:22.660 have voted for Trump?

00:38:24.080 No, no,

00:38:24.420 you have nothing

00:38:24.940 to be ashamed of

00:38:25.600 in voting for Trump.

00:38:26.380 They do have something

00:38:27.400 to be ashamed of

00:38:28.080 in voting for Kamala Harris.

00:38:29.640 Doesn't mean you should

00:38:30.320 write them out of your life

00:38:31.220 as they probably

00:38:32.220 would like to do to you,

00:38:34.000 but I would put them on,

00:38:35.060 I would,

00:38:35.280 I would not be,

00:38:36.380 squishy about this at all.

00:38:38.860 No, no, no.

00:38:39.180 What you did

00:38:39.860 by voting for Kamala Harris

00:38:40.860 is very, very evil,

00:38:42.460 but you probably

00:38:43.640 didn't do it intentionally

00:38:44.640 and, you know,

00:38:45.820 all fall short

00:38:46.400 of the glory of God

00:38:47.240 and so I totally,

00:38:48.540 I forgive you for it.

00:38:49.520 I don't judge you for it.

00:38:51.500 You know,

00:38:51.680 I look forward to seeing you

00:38:52.440 at the wedding,

00:38:53.240 but yeah,

00:38:53.980 you shouldn't have done that.

00:38:55.320 That's what I would do.

00:38:56.240 Forget about that.

00:38:56.840 This is your wedding day.

00:38:57.820 You've got some lunatic

00:38:58.820 29-year-old cousin

00:38:59.860 who wants to whine and cry

00:39:01.320 because he doesn't get

00:39:01.940 to kill enough babies

00:39:02.700 and castrate enough kids.

00:39:03.700 Give me a break.

00:39:04.500 Next question.

00:39:05.040 Hello, Michael.

00:39:06.920 Big fan of the show.

00:39:08.240 My question is coming to you

00:39:09.480 from Kansas City, Missouri,

00:39:10.800 where during the election

00:39:11.840 we had a couple

00:39:12.580 of constitutional amendments

00:39:13.880 up for a vote,

00:39:15.680 one of which included

00:39:16.720 legalizing sports gambling.

00:39:19.320 Virtually everyone

00:39:20.020 close to me

00:39:20.680 in the lead-up

00:39:21.100 to the election

00:39:21.660 was adamant

00:39:22.400 about voting yes.

00:39:23.800 They argued that

00:39:24.720 Missouri residents

00:39:25.620 frequently had to

00:39:26.820 cross state lines

00:39:27.900 into Kansas

00:39:28.760 or Illinois

00:39:29.620 to place bets,

00:39:30.440 so we might as well

00:39:31.440 collect the revenue

00:39:32.120 for Missouri

00:39:32.660 if it's happening anyway.

00:39:34.340 It's also guaranteed

00:39:35.180 money for the schools

00:39:36.620 even though

00:39:37.120 the language said

00:39:38.060 it would not guarantee

00:39:38.960 increased school funding,

00:39:40.620 et cetera.

00:39:41.700 While I'm not completely

00:39:42.600 opposed to gambling

00:39:43.480 on sports,

00:39:44.640 I argued that

00:39:45.520 since gambling

00:39:46.100 is a vice

00:39:46.700 in which could easily

00:39:47.460 be abused,

00:39:48.560 we shouldn't necessarily

00:39:49.540 make it easier

00:39:50.300 to access.

00:39:51.580 I'm seeing the rise

00:39:52.340 of gambling websites

00:39:53.380 being advertised

00:39:54.080 all over the place

00:39:54.860 these days.

00:39:55.980 It seems the promotion

00:39:56.900 of gambling

00:39:57.420 has increased dramatically

00:39:58.620 in recent years,

00:40:00.040 and my concern is that

00:40:01.080 if we simply allow people

00:40:02.220 to log into an app

00:40:03.260 and bet thousands of dollars,

00:40:04.760 this one will certainly

00:40:05.540 be abused by those

00:40:06.640 that are susceptible

00:40:07.260 to addiction.

00:40:09.020 I think I'd prefer

00:40:09.700 to legalize sports gambling

00:40:10.920 but only allow it

00:40:11.760 in casinos

00:40:12.420 and things like that

00:40:14.120 to limit its accessibility.

00:40:16.240 Again,

00:40:16.720 nearly everyone

00:40:17.640 close to me

00:40:18.260 I've spoken to

00:40:18.880 seems to disagree

00:40:19.900 with me dramatically

00:40:20.760 on this.

00:40:21.900 What are your thoughts

00:40:22.540 on this or gambling

00:40:23.620 in general,

00:40:24.580 and do you see merits

00:40:25.660 on either or both sides?

00:40:27.600 Love to hear your thoughts.

00:40:29.020 Thanks for all you do

00:40:29.740 and looking forward

00:40:30.260 to hearing from you.

00:40:31.080 I totally agree

00:40:32.040 with your take.

00:40:33.540 I think you can,

00:40:34.880 you could legalize it

00:40:35.960 to some measure

00:40:37.480 as long as you

00:40:38.920 severely restrict it.

00:40:40.360 I generally hate gambling

00:40:41.700 and sports gambling,

00:40:43.280 which is ironic

00:40:44.420 because I gamble frequently

00:40:46.240 but I gamble

00:40:46.980 in a very modest way.

00:40:49.380 And the way I gamble

00:40:50.180 is when I go out

00:40:51.100 to have lunch

00:40:51.660 or a drink or something

00:40:53.080 with a few friends of mine,

00:40:54.780 there are specific friends

00:40:55.780 that I do this with,

00:40:57.080 I will,

00:40:57.840 we will play

00:40:58.420 rock, paper, scissors, shoot

00:40:59.320 for every single bill.

00:41:01.080 And so over,

00:41:02.120 you know,

00:41:02.340 this has been going on

00:41:02.900 for over 10 years now.

00:41:03.940 So there is actually

00:41:04.840 a lot of money

00:41:05.320 being exchanged

00:41:05.980 but, you know,

00:41:06.860 it kind of evens out

00:41:08.440 a little bit.

00:41:08.820 It's a little fun,

00:41:09.380 it makes it interesting

00:41:10.040 and maybe you pick up

00:41:10.840 a $50 tab

00:41:11.660 or a $100 tab

00:41:12.640 or maybe even more.

00:41:13.300 but you mentioned

00:41:18.140 gambling thousands of dollars.

00:41:19.420 The thought of gambling

00:41:20.540 thousands of dollars

00:41:21.380 really troubles me.

00:41:23.860 I've seen it.

00:41:25.500 I know gamblers.

00:41:27.000 It's not,

00:41:27.620 it's really bad.

00:41:28.460 It can be really bad

00:41:29.140 and it can really

00:41:29.720 damage families

00:41:31.180 more so than even

00:41:32.400 many other vices

00:41:33.280 or in more pronounced ways

00:41:36.900 even than other vices.

00:41:37.640 So I guess it's okay

00:41:40.500 in certain limited ways

00:41:41.740 but I wouldn't,

00:41:42.760 I wouldn't make

00:41:44.220 total widespread

00:41:45.320 unrestricted gambling

00:41:46.560 some great cause

00:41:48.080 for the conservatives.

00:41:49.040 I don't think it's good.

00:41:49.920 I think here,

00:41:50.720 as Aristotle would tell us,

00:41:53.320 prudence is the chief

00:41:54.400 political virtue.

00:41:55.300 And so not everyone,

00:41:57.600 as Thomas Aquinas says,

00:41:58.380 not everyone is as advanced

00:41:59.540 in virtue.

00:41:59.980 So it's not that you want

00:42:00.740 to totally tamp out everything.

00:42:02.400 This is the Thomistic argument

00:42:03.540 for permitting prostitution

00:42:05.040 even in certain places

00:42:06.140 but it's about making sure

00:42:08.640 that this is highly regulated

00:42:09.900 so that the worst effects

00:42:12.960 of it are mitigated.

00:42:14.600 Next question.

00:42:16.280 Hey, Michael.

00:42:17.260 I'm a 31-year-old Christian man

00:42:19.140 who's been looking

00:42:19.880 for a nice Christian girl

00:42:21.620 for a few years now.

00:42:23.240 Unfortunately,

00:42:23.740 I've come to some

00:42:24.800 irreconcilable disagreements

00:42:26.760 over things such as abortion

00:42:28.380 with the past couple girls

00:42:29.760 who I've dated.

00:42:30.240 despite meeting them in church.

00:42:33.300 Totally against abortion,

00:42:34.520 by the way.

00:42:35.000 No exception.

00:42:36.660 My question is,

00:42:37.740 how do we single Christian men

00:42:39.540 convince nice single Christian ladies

00:42:41.760 to put themselves out there

00:42:43.200 a little more?

00:42:44.260 I'm on a couple

00:42:44.760 of the Christian dating apps

00:42:45.760 but the dating pool is sparse.

00:42:48.020 I don't really want to go to a bar.

00:42:50.220 I try to go where the ladies are

00:42:51.640 but there's not a whole lot around

00:42:54.060 where I am, unfortunately.

00:42:56.320 By the way,

00:42:57.080 I am in Oklahoma.

00:42:59.120 Throwback to that question

00:43:00.120 from last week.

00:43:01.600 I love your show.

00:43:02.820 Hashtag came for Ben,

00:43:03.880 stayed for Michael

00:43:04.460 and I am hoping to meet a girl

00:43:06.400 who leaves me speechless.

00:43:10.720 Excuse me.

00:43:11.700 Oh, there we go.

00:43:12.260 Okay, good.

00:43:12.660 I was waiting for it.

00:43:13.460 All right, that's good.

00:43:15.280 Many such cases as you,

00:43:17.240 sorry you're having trouble

00:43:18.820 finding a nice lady

00:43:19.920 but that happens

00:43:21.120 and even you meet a girl

00:43:22.400 in church

00:43:22.780 and it turns out

00:43:23.360 she's a huge lib.

00:43:24.040 Isn't that so crazy these days?

00:43:26.060 Now, you might have more luck

00:43:27.520 in certain parishes

00:43:29.380 and ecclesial communities

00:43:31.440 than others.

00:43:32.680 However,

00:43:33.720 how do you do it?

00:43:35.320 You don't,

00:43:35.640 the apps aren't really working for you

00:43:37.060 because the apps

00:43:37.540 are intrinsically liberal

00:43:38.560 even if you can meet

00:43:39.460 good conservative people on there.

00:43:41.240 Both of those things are true.

00:43:43.180 So what I would try to do

00:43:44.340 is lean into your

00:43:45.640 real network of people.

00:43:49.040 Again, maybe easier said than done

00:43:51.100 depending on how big your family is,

00:43:53.380 how big your work community is.

00:43:55.940 You know,

00:43:56.100 if you're living in the middle of nowhere

00:43:57.160 in Oklahoma,

00:43:58.160 that's going to be different

00:43:59.340 than living a little closer to a city

00:44:00.620 just in terms of the number of people.

00:44:02.800 However,

00:44:03.280 I would lean into that a little bit.

00:44:04.660 Hey,

00:44:05.200 do you know anyone?

00:44:06.040 You ask your family members,

00:44:07.180 you ask your colleagues,

00:44:08.420 you ask your friends,

00:44:09.700 you ask people you know from church,

00:44:11.080 not just gals you're going to meet at church,

00:44:12.300 but hey,

00:44:13.040 do you,

00:44:13.500 can you set me up?

00:44:15.240 This is the way it was done traditionally

00:44:16.940 and I think it's good

00:44:18.200 because that's really

00:44:19.020 what a dating app tries to do.

00:44:20.380 It just uses a digital network

00:44:21.740 instead of a more

00:44:22.840 incarnate,

00:44:24.900 historical,

00:44:25.900 tangible network.

00:44:27.300 But,

00:44:28.220 you know,

00:44:28.840 you're going to have

00:44:31.240 more reliability,

00:44:32.720 I think,

00:44:33.040 if you can say,

00:44:33.500 okay,

00:44:33.640 well actually,

00:44:34.380 it's my friend at work,

00:44:36.000 his cousin's roommate

00:44:37.300 is single

00:44:38.080 and is good

00:44:39.300 and she's been vetted

00:44:40.120 by like three people.

00:44:41.080 So okay,

00:44:41.320 that's what I would lean into

00:44:42.460 a little bit more

00:44:43.140 than just throwing yourself

00:44:44.480 out there on an app.

00:44:45.200 It's the same thing

00:44:45.680 with getting a job actually.

00:44:47.760 If you want to get a job,

00:44:49.500 I find it,

00:44:51.200 they say it's not what you know

00:44:52.360 but who you know.

00:44:53.060 Well,

00:44:53.180 it's actually both.

00:44:53.900 It is what you know

00:44:54.480 but it's also who you know.

00:44:55.420 I find getting a job

00:44:57.280 is better

00:44:58.720 and more inclined

00:44:59.480 to work out

00:45:00.200 if you go through people

00:45:02.380 you know.

00:45:03.840 And so you can vet the company,

00:45:05.020 you can vet the work culture,

00:45:06.140 you can vet the kind of work,

00:45:07.000 you can maybe get a leg in

00:45:08.440 rather than just submitting

00:45:09.780 an application

00:45:10.480 to a slush pile

00:45:11.940 on a website.

00:45:14.060 The apps are a little bit

00:45:15.240 like the slush pile

00:45:16.040 so I would lean in

00:45:17.120 a little bit more

00:45:17.700 to who you know.

00:45:19.000 Next question.

00:45:19.540 Hey Mike,

00:45:21.260 there was a moment

00:45:21.840 in the Trump campaign

00:45:23.060 that when it happened

00:45:25.440 a lot of conservatives

00:45:26.400 tried to ignore

00:45:27.260 out of fear

00:45:28.040 but because Trump won

00:45:30.560 so overwhelmingly

00:45:31.420 I think it actually represents

00:45:32.740 one of the most important moments

00:45:33.920 of the campaign

00:45:34.600 and I'm talking about

00:45:35.420 the Tony Hinchcliffe endorsement

00:45:36.960 at Madison Square Garden.

00:45:38.640 He said some jokes that night

00:45:39.900 that a lot of people

00:45:41.060 on the left deemed

00:45:41.860 were offensive

00:45:42.640 but weren't really that offensive

00:45:45.040 by historical standards

00:45:46.860 and

00:45:48.080 if Donald Trump lost

00:45:50.660 it might have represented

00:45:52.280 the final nail in the coffin

00:45:53.460 of comedy in America

00:45:54.400 but because he won

00:45:55.880 and because he won

00:45:56.640 so overwhelmingly

00:45:57.480 more importantly

00:45:58.400 I think this moment

00:46:00.000 represents a sort of

00:46:00.980 watershed moment

00:46:01.840 for a rebirth

00:46:03.660 of comedy in America.

00:46:05.440 Comedians all over the country

00:46:06.500 can look to that moment

00:46:07.320 and say

00:46:07.740 it's okay to say jokes

00:46:09.680 that I think are funny again

00:46:11.000 but what do you think?

00:46:13.080 I would love for this

00:46:14.060 to be the case

00:46:14.600 but what do you think?

00:46:15.680 I was in the room

00:46:16.360 for that joke

00:46:17.040 that was at MSG

00:46:18.140 and I know some conservatives

00:46:19.620 were saying

00:46:20.120 it was a bad joke

00:46:21.200 because he said

00:46:22.200 we're talking about

00:46:22.860 the island of garbage

00:46:23.840 that people talk about

00:46:24.720 in the ocean

00:46:25.020 he says yeah yeah

00:46:25.620 well we know that

00:46:26.220 it's Puerto Rico

00:46:26.860 it was a Puerto Rico joke

00:46:28.300 in New York

00:46:28.760 there's a lot of Puerto Ricans

00:46:29.580 and conservatives said

00:46:32.280 it's a bad joke

00:46:32.980 I don't think it was a bad joke

00:46:33.900 it was a funny joke

00:46:34.580 obviously Puerto Ricans

00:46:36.800 and Hispanics

00:46:37.360 were not particularly

00:46:38.220 offended by it

00:46:38.920 I don't think

00:46:39.360 that other people

00:46:39.940 should be offended

00:46:40.460 on their behalf

00:46:41.060 by it

00:46:41.300 it was a perfectly funny joke

00:46:42.860 you gotta remember though

00:46:44.120 which this wasn't clear

00:46:46.140 if you saw it on TV

00:46:46.940 but in the room

00:46:47.420 Hinchcliffe was the opener

00:46:48.880 he went on at like

00:46:50.660 1230 or 1pm

00:46:52.040 Trump wasn't going on

00:46:53.760 scheduled until 5

00:46:54.800 he actually went on

00:46:55.400 at 7 o'clock

00:46:56.160 so Hinchcliffe was working

00:46:59.180 with a crowd

00:46:59.720 it was probably

00:47:00.240 a quarter to a third

00:47:01.360 full in MSG

00:47:02.200 I didn't even pay

00:47:03.000 I didn't even hear

00:47:03.560 that joke in person

00:47:04.360 I heard his set

00:47:05.400 made fun of Republicans

00:47:06.380 it made fun of Democrats

00:47:07.600 it was a funny set

00:47:09.340 but to pretend

00:47:12.060 that this was

00:47:12.520 some consequential moment

00:47:13.680 in the campaign

00:47:14.200 was totally ridiculous

00:47:15.420 and then on the flip side

00:47:16.600 to pretend that he was

00:47:17.360 telling these awful jokes

00:47:18.420 or that he bombed

00:47:19.240 or that no

00:47:19.600 he was doing

00:47:20.860 a pretty funny set

00:47:21.820 people were still

00:47:22.780 entering the hall

00:47:23.460 people weren't paying

00:47:24.120 very close attention

00:47:24.860 it was fine

00:47:25.640 it was cool man

00:47:26.940 and so

00:47:28.020 I like to your conclusion

00:47:30.240 yeah people would have

00:47:31.000 maybe blamed the joke

00:47:31.940 had Trump lost

00:47:32.760 or lost narrowly

00:47:33.660 but here

00:47:34.780 it's not that we have to say

00:47:36.080 it was the greatest comedy set ever

00:47:37.340 it was perfectly good

00:47:38.780 and we don't have to say

00:47:40.220 that it was this terrible

00:47:40.960 awful misstep

00:47:42.220 we can just say like

00:47:43.140 yeah

00:47:43.380 yeah how about that

00:47:44.600 a guy told a joke

00:47:45.300 and it was fine

00:47:45.840 and it actually didn't

00:47:47.560 affect people's behavior

00:47:48.780 at all

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The Michael Knowles Show - November 15, 2024

Ep. 1618 - Make America Healthy Again

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