The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1623 - The Matt Gaetz Withdrawal EXPLAINED In 5 Mins

00:00:00.000 Just over two weeks after President Trump's landslide election, the transition team has hit

00:00:05.540 its first major speed bump as Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz withdraws his name from

00:00:11.400 consideration amid a looming sex scandal. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the show. Big internet drama, which I usually avoid, but this one I'll get into

00:00:39.820 because I think there's a broader point to be made on it. A gal who appeared on my show, Nala Ray,

00:00:45.340 is being accused of admitting that she lied about everything on my show and that she didn't really

00:00:50.740 give up porn and she didn't really convert to Christianity. So anyway, I'll get into that in

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00:02:08.600 swanky looking beautiful little box. Matt Gaetz has withdrawn his nomination from the attorney general

00:02:15.800 race. Matt Gaetz says, I had excellent meetings with senators yesterday. I appreciate their

00:02:20.880 thoughtful feedback and the incredible support of so many. While the momentum was strong,

00:02:25.320 it is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work

00:02:30.000 of the Trump-Vance transition. There is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington

00:02:34.400 scuffle. Thus, I'll be withdrawing my name from consideration to serve as AG. Trump's DOJ must be

00:02:39.480 in place and ready on day one. I remain fully committed to see that Donald J. Trump is the most

00:02:43.580 successful president in history. I will forever be honored that President Trump nominated me to

00:02:47.220 lead the DOJ. I'm certain he will save America. Whoa, why is Matt Gaetz out just a little over two

00:02:53.600 weeks after the election? I suggested at the time, I hate to say I told you so, that there might be a

00:03:00.980 little bit more strategery going on there than met the eye because Matt Gaetz had been accused of all

00:03:08.040 sorts of weird sex stuff. And the DOJ declined to pursue charges. So this was the Biden DOJ.

00:03:14.280 They felt the case was so flimsy that they weren't going to pursue charges. Nevertheless,

00:03:18.140 there was this House ethics report. The House ethics report was due to come out the Friday after

00:03:24.020 his nomination. He was nominated on a Wednesday. Gaetz took the opportunity on that Wednesday to resign

00:03:28.940 from Congress, which was a nice off-ramp to be able to stop the House from releasing the ethics report

00:03:35.860 unless they wanted to just look petty and like they were trying to torpedo a nominee.

00:03:40.640 It gave him an off-ramp without looking as though he were resigning in disgrace or resigning out of

00:03:46.880 fear. Then there was very little chance that he was going to get through his AG. Even Republican

00:03:51.760 senators weren't going to move on it. So now he can withdraw from that nomination. And who knows what

00:03:55.980 he could do? Maybe he could run for governor of Florida. Maybe he could pursue some other kind of

00:04:00.160 political post. But it seems basically to have worked out pretty well for him. Had the ethics report

00:04:05.220 come out, it would have led to a really big political fight. Maybe Gaetz would have survived

00:04:09.160 it. Maybe he wouldn't have survived it. So this, one of the better outcomes for Matt Gaetz.

00:04:14.860 As for Trump, does it really help Trump? At the time, I said it did help Trump because it meant

00:04:21.140 that we weren't talking about Pete Hegseth. We weren't talking about Tulsi Gabbard. We weren't

00:04:24.720 talking about Bobby Kennedy. All these supposedly controversial picks for the cabinet that Trump had put up

00:04:30.320 there. It was a way to kind of distract from what everyone else was paying attention to,

00:04:34.260 even if that distraction wasn't going to have long-term consequences, because Gaetz was going

00:04:38.060 to pull out. Now, just what, a week or so later. That may have kind of worked. Now, unfortunately,

00:04:43.920 now there's a little bit of blood in the water. Trump has shown that he's willing to accept the

00:04:47.900 withdrawal of one of his appointees. Does this mean that others are going to be pressured to

00:04:52.700 withdraw? Or does this mean the others are going to get through more easily? That remains to be seen.

00:04:56.760 But I do see some pretty clear benefits, at least for Gaetz and at least arguably for Trump.

00:05:02.340 So now the focus is going to be back on Pete Hegseth and the lib media are wasting no time.

00:05:06.880 Big hit piece in Mediaite yesterday, trying to torpedo Hegseth. And I hate giving air time

00:05:13.340 to these kinds of salacious and, I think, baseless stories. However, assuming Pete is going to go through

00:05:20.980 the confirmation process, all of this is going to be aired out. So I think it's better to get ahead of

00:05:24.760 the story. The headline is, Mediaite obtains full police report on Pete Hegseth sexual assault

00:05:31.240 allegation. So the media have already had a field day pointing out that Pete has been married multiple

00:05:35.940 times and suggesting that he's got girl problems. Here they're saying that he committed a sexual

00:05:41.260 assault, or at least that's what they're insinuating. Okay, what happened? I won't go

00:05:46.180 through the whole story. They're saying that Pete, this was years ago, something like seven years ago,

00:05:50.240 Pete was at some political event and he was hanging out with a bunch of girls and they were drinking

00:05:55.440 in a suite and they were drinking at the hotel bar. And then eventually he winds up down by the pool and

00:06:01.080 he's getting into a sort of elevated conversation with one of these women and they're kind of yelling

00:06:05.820 at each other. But then the pool staff and the hotel staff come down and the woman apologizes for

00:06:14.440 Pete. And then they walk off arm in arm with the woman smiling, according to witnesses. This is

00:06:19.840 where this begins. I'll just read from Mediaite. The hotel worker said Jane Doe then led Hegseth away.

00:06:26.260 He said Hegseth appeared very drunk while Jane Doe was standing on her own and seemed coherent.

00:06:30.680 Doesn't mean she wasn't a little buzzed, but apparently, according to this hotel worker,

00:06:35.980 Pete had had more to drink than her. Surveillance video reviewed by police from around 1.15 a.m.

00:06:40.840 showed Doe and Hegseth walking toward the pool, their arms locked, and Doe appeared to be smiling,

00:06:47.180 per the report. So right there, these two are getting along pretty clearly. That's not even

00:06:53.780 according to eyewitnesses. That's according to video footage. Okay. Doe told police that she had

00:07:00.040 been drinking that night and told the nurse that she believed someone had slipped something in her

00:07:04.980 drink. Okay. It's possible people do slip things in drinks, but it's really,

00:07:10.440 there's certainly no reason to think Pete Hegseth would have done that. And sometimes people say

00:07:14.340 that someone slipped something in their drink and really it was just that they had too many drinks.

00:07:18.500 She told police that her recollection became fuzzy after the pool exchange and that the next memory

00:07:22.640 she had was in an unknown room. She said Hegseth took her phone and blocked the door with his body

00:07:27.540 when she tried to leave. She told police she said no repeatedly. She said she was next on a bed or a

00:07:32.420 couch and Hegseth was on top of her with his dog tags hovering over her face. Then it goes into details

00:07:37.200 that we don't need to get into that are just a little lurid, but don't really add anything to

00:07:40.480 the story. She says she did not remember how she got back to her hotel room later that night.

00:07:47.800 Four days later, she went to the hospital to be checked out. Four days later, this is not the

00:07:54.860 next morning. This is not the morning after. This is not even the morning after that. This is the

00:07:58.620 morning after that, after that, after that, after that. And here is the final line I'll read.

00:08:04.760 After sex, Hegseth said Doe showed early signs of regret and said she would tell her husband

00:08:10.340 she fell asleep on a couch in someone else's room. Okay.

00:08:18.380 There is absolutely no evidence based on video footage, based on any witnesses, based on what

00:08:26.300 Pete Hegseth is saying here, and really even based on what the woman is supposedly alleging,

00:08:31.180 according to the Media Eye report, there is no evidence for the allegations that this was

00:08:37.360 non-consensual, that this was an assault of any kind. There is some evidence against the

00:08:46.520 allegations. There's actually a fair bit of evidence against the allegations, the smiling

00:08:50.380 on camera, the arm in arm, the number of days it took, some evidence against it.

00:08:56.160 There is obviously evidence that Pete has made mistakes in his life. There's obviously evidence

00:09:01.960 that Pete Hegseth has been a Casanova. Okay. Nobody is denying that. But I have to ask,

00:09:07.540 since when has that been the standard for political appointments?

00:09:11.800 If that were the standard for political appointments,

00:09:14.880 Bill Clinton wouldn't be president. Probably half of Congress would have to resign.

00:09:20.260 Bobby Kennedy wouldn't be. The entire Kennedy family wouldn't be in politics.

00:09:23.560 You know, that's obviously not the standard. So this reads to me like absolute dirt, like a total

00:09:33.100 smear campaign, not grounded in reality, that's just going to turn every political fight now into

00:09:39.180 Kavanaugh 2.0. Kavanaugh, the Kavanaugh fight, which was also a totally baseless allegation that fell apart

00:09:46.600 under even the slightest scrutiny, but still made life hell for Brett Kavanaugh. This is a recreation of

00:09:53.300 Clarence Thomas, high-tech lynching. I don't know. This is really dirty stuff. If this is the best

00:09:58.920 they've got, however, Pete is going to get through. They're going to try to make his life a living hell,

00:10:03.780 but this is a very weak allegation. There's no evidence for it whatsoever. It seems to me they're

00:10:10.200 only trying to put that through to smear Pete for being a ladies' man years ago. Okay. I don't think

00:10:15.940 he would deny that. I don't think that's the standard for political appointees. Really,

00:10:21.320 really dirty hit job. And it's the kind of story you're going to have to get in front of because

00:10:24.960 otherwise they're going, they're going to do Kavanaugh times 10, seems to me.

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00:10:58.820 ensure your title is still in your name. I usually avoid internet drama, including when it involves me

00:11:06.100 because I think it's mostly kind of silly and stupid and doesn't deserve a response. However,

00:11:10.520 this little piece of internet drama, which involves at least my show, I think is, is helpful because

00:11:17.060 there's a broader political and religious point to make on it. There's an accusation that a gal who

00:11:22.120 sat down on my show for a Michael and episode, really long interview, Nala Ray, that she was totally

00:11:28.360 lying, that she lied to my face, that she made it all up. Nala Ray worked in porn. She was very

00:11:34.120 successful in porn on OnlyFans, and then she says she had a conversion, and she quit porn, and she

00:11:40.060 gave it up, and now she covers up. You know, she wears clothing that's not revealing, and she got

00:11:44.260 married, and she says that she converted to Christianity. And we sat down and talked about

00:11:48.020 this. I think it's a really interesting conversation. You can go check it out on my

00:11:51.100 YouTube channel and on your favorite podcast app. But there's this allegation going around the

00:11:56.800 internet, and people kept tagging me, and that's the only way I saw it, that she was actually lying

00:12:01.020 about the whole thing. Whatever podcast posted said, so Nala was lying about everything, and then

00:12:06.440 a bunch of other accounts said Nala was lying, and she lied to Michael Knowles' face, and she didn't

00:12:10.620 really convert, and she didn't really give up porn, and it's all fake. And here's the clip that they

00:12:15.680 played. As a viral creator on I went on so many podcasts because I knew the only way to grow my

00:12:23.040 was to be viral, and it's such an oversaturated platform right now, and I've been on it for like

00:12:29.720 five and a half years. So everything I've said on podcasts is complete clickbait. I did it to go

00:12:35.980 viral to then make money, and it worked. I said whatever I needed to because I understand the male

00:12:41.020 brain, and I needed to make money, and I was like, I got to take it down. Basically, you lied about

00:12:45.360 everything. Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so that's the clip that's going around, and because I think my

00:12:51.040 show was probably the biggest show that she went on of all these podcasts, so people keep tagging me in

00:12:56.060 this and saying, see, she's admitting that she made it up. She didn't really convert. She didn't

00:12:59.960 really give up porn. She just did it to make money and grow her OnlyFans channel and her porn account,

00:13:05.620 and so she's a total sociopath. That's the line. So I said, huh. Well, I don't know. I mean, I only

00:13:11.440 sat down with this girl one time, but she struck me as basically sincere, so I'm really surprised to

00:13:17.240 hear that. Maybe there's a little more context here. So then I look for the context. What was she saying?

00:13:23.480 That's a 30-second clip or something. What was the full context of what she was saying? And

00:13:27.480 this is what I discovered.

00:13:29.360 Get over the cheating kink, Nala. I am so happy we get to finally address this. So as a viral creator

00:13:36.440 on OnlyFans, like when I was on OnlyFans about eight, nine months ago, I went on so many podcasts

00:13:42.480 because I knew the only way to grow my OnlyFans was to be viral, and it's such an oversaturated

00:13:48.500 platform right now, and I've been on it for like five and a half years. So everything I've

00:13:55.260 said on podcasts is complete clickbait. I did it to go viral to then make money, and so

00:14:01.280 many people believed it, and it worked. So that's what's so like crazy about the internet,

00:14:06.140 and if you've heard it before, it's very true. The internet is not real. So like everything

00:14:11.080 I've said, like, oh my god, I love cheating. Like, dude, I was so freaking dead single at the

00:14:15.080 time. Like, who would I have cheated on, bro? Like, so for me, I made up this complete character

00:14:21.500 that everyone believed in, and everyone was like, I was very controversial to people, and

00:14:26.480 I was very, like some people really, really liked me. But at the end of the day, social

00:14:31.100 media is just fake news. So I never had a cheating kink. I've been single for such a long time,

00:14:38.520 especially when I was on OnlyFans, and I said whatever I needed to because I understand

00:14:43.920 the male brain, and I needed to make money, and I was like, bet.

00:14:47.480 But isn't the counter to this position that if you spent that much time lying about that,

00:14:52.400 why should we assume you're not spending time lying about this?

00:14:54.900 Because you can, as a Christian, if you doubt me, as a Christian, you should look at the fruits

00:14:59.440 of the Spirit. And if you really do, like if you can't have an actual conversation with me to see

00:15:03.520 where my focuses lie now, just ask God and look at the fruit of the Spirit.

00:15:07.960 So the context of this is, she's asked, when you were on this show last time, and you said you had

00:15:13.920 kink fetish for cheating or being cheated on, is that true? And she says, no, no, no, I lied then.

00:15:20.360 I was lying on podcasts when I was on OnlyFans, because I understood the male brain, and because

00:15:27.020 porn is a fantasy, and I was giving people that fantasy, but it was a lie. I didn't even have

00:15:30.040 a boyfriend at the time. And so the follow-up question, which is a good question, is, okay,

00:15:33.800 if you were lying then, how do we know you're not lying now, now that you've given up pornography?

00:15:38.500 And she says, well, you judge it by the fruits of the Spirit. And then she further proves that

00:15:44.760 that previous clip was dishonest, because she refers to her work on OnlyFans in the past tense.

00:15:50.380 She's done with porn. She's done selling her body. You can also see this visibly. She's covered up.

00:15:55.900 On this show, women are often scantily clad. She's covered up. She's wearing a big hoodie.

00:16:00.460 She's describing porn as being in the past. So whatever you think about this girl,

00:16:03.680 let's say you think she is insincere, or she's not a true Christian, or whatever you think about

00:16:11.600 her. You certainly have to admit the first clip is deceptive. It is claiming the opposite of what

00:16:18.700 she is actually saying. And to the point, how do we know you're not lying now? She, I think,

00:16:24.840 gives a really good answer here, which is, well, the way you know I'm not lying now, or some evidence

00:16:28.920 for that is. Previously, I was in porn, and porn is a fantasy. Porn is grounded in lies. Lies about

00:16:37.020 human nature, lies about the purpose of sex, lies about how the sexes relate to one another and how

00:16:42.200 women relate to sexual acts. So that was based on lies, and I lied. Whereas Christianity is grounded

00:16:47.380 in the truth. Our Lord is the truth himself. And so that is in itself one reason why people in porn

00:16:56.520 are intrinsically engaging in lies. Christianity intrinsically inclines one toward the truth,

00:17:03.700 by definition. It seems to me quite scandalous that this clip is going around, that the first

00:17:09.660 clip is going around, to insinuate that she's making the opposite point that she's making.

00:17:15.080 And it's scandalous because it is so totally lacking in grace, and it's the sort of thing that would seem

00:17:22.640 to me to be leading someone away from Christ. It strikes me that if one is going to err,

00:17:29.360 one should always err on the side of grace. Because you have to ask yourself, what is the end that we're

00:17:34.680 seeking here? The end that I am seeking, at least, is to lead more people to Christ. That's the end that

00:17:41.460 I'm after. So if someone is inclined to go in that direction, to give up a life of sin and vice,

00:17:49.080 and is showing evidence that she wishes to do that, I would like to encourage that person

00:17:55.560 down that path. I think that would be a good thing. Some people, though, if they're trying to

00:17:59.740 twist her words and make it seem as though she's saying the opposite of what she's really saying,

00:18:03.440 it would seem that those people are intentionally trying to lead someone away from Christ,

00:18:07.800 or to put up obstacles that would get in the way of a person seeking life in Christ. And that is

00:18:13.920 deeply scandalous. And you will answer for that. If you are putting up obstacles, if you are

00:18:21.420 scandalizing people, scandal, which is a serious, serious sin, you will answer for that someday. So

00:18:26.440 that seems kind of crazy to me. The question you have to ask yourself in all of these conversations

00:18:31.540 is what is the end we're seeking? This gal got in trouble too, because she was asked a question

00:18:36.140 about the Trinity. This is the central mystery of the Christian faith, how God has three persons in

00:18:42.020 one divine unity. God is one, and yet we have the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.

00:18:47.460 This is the central mystery that we cannot really fully comprehend or articulate.

00:18:52.560 Many have tried. There's a legend about St. Augustine attempting to fully comprehend the Trinity,

00:18:57.580 and an angel mocks him for trying to do something impossible. So anyway, Nala got tripped up on the

00:19:04.780 nature of the Trinity. And it seems to me there are two ways to engage with that. Either you can say,

00:19:09.600 ha-ha, see, you've fallen into this heresy. I don't know. Everyone falls into a heresy when

00:19:13.160 they try to describe the Trinity just about, whether it's the heresy of modalism, whether

00:19:17.180 it's the heresy of Arianism, which took over half of self-professed Christians in antiquity.

00:19:21.880 With any of these heresies, it's very difficult. Either you can respond and say, ha-ha, gotcha,

00:19:25.860 see, boom, you're not a Christian, get out of here. Or you can say, hey, you're seeking Christ,

00:19:30.300 you're trying to improve yourself, you're trying to grow in sanctity. Here are some ways that maybe,

00:19:34.020 you know, here's a pitfall that sometimes you fall into. But anyway, you know, keep going,

00:19:37.380 you know, just do your best, you know, pray, hope, and don't worry. You do your best,

00:19:42.520 God will do the rest. Seems to me that's the thing that we ought to do. But the question then

00:19:45.860 you have to have is, what's the point? If the point is, and this is a broader point even

00:19:50.620 on politics, on cultural battles, if the point is just to dunk on people and own them and degrade

00:19:58.520 them and debase them, then sure, pull every gotcha you possibly can and deceptively edit people and try

00:20:04.600 to make it seem as though they're saying the opposite of what they're saying, then don't

00:20:07.380 engage in good faith. But if the point is to persuade people and lead them closer to the truth

00:20:12.000 and to help them to grow in sanctity, well, then you should probably do that. You should probably

00:20:17.140 do that. You should probably offer them grace and try to speak the truth in love. Two very different

00:20:22.620 approaches for two very different ways of life, and they'll have two very different consequences,

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00:21:37.140 from Hard Boiled Entertainment, who says, and just as we're on the brink of peace, always remember,

00:21:43.440 never underestimate Joe's ability to F things up. Yes, we are there, man. Russia, well, Ukraine firing

00:21:51.680 missiles into Russia. Russia responding. We thought we voted for peace. We thought we voted for the

00:22:01.580 Abraham Accords and Russia not invading other countries and things just being kind of cool.

00:22:07.740 Well, don't forget, it's end of November. We have two more months of the Democrats' ability

00:22:14.800 to try to tie Trump's hands and prevent peace. And it looks like they're doing their best at it.

00:22:21.380 Now, speaking of changing hearts and minds, AOC has responded to the other drama going on on the

00:22:28.800 Hill right now over whether or not a man, a Democrat congressman named Tim McBride, who calls himself

00:22:33.940 Sarah, can invade the women's bathroom over the objections of the actual women who are in Congress.

00:22:40.700 And Speaker Mike Johnson has made clear he does not get to go into the women's bathroom.

00:22:45.200 After I called a little bit of attention to this issue a week or so ago, because it seems like a

00:22:50.600 trivial fight, but there's a lot that's that's being smuggled in with a man going into the women's

00:22:55.100 bathroom. The whole ideology of transgenderism is being smuggled in. So Speaker Johnson, as I said,

00:22:59.380 I was hopeful for, has said, no, we're not going to allow that to happen. AOC melts down over it.

00:23:05.160 It's disgusting. And everybody, no matter how you feel on this issue, should reject it completely.

00:23:11.620 What are they doing? They're doing this so that Nancy Mace can

00:23:13.960 make a buck and send a text and fundraise off an email. They're not doing this to protect people.

00:23:18.900 They're endangering women. They're endangering girls of all kinds, and everybody should reject it.

00:23:24.360 It's gross. Thank you. Thank you.

00:23:26.240 It's gross. It is gross that we're not letting this dude with some combination or one or the other of

00:23:33.920 mental illness and a sexual fetish just walk into the women's bathroom over their objections,

00:23:39.180 including people who have experienced rape like Nancy Mace, as she said on this show just a few

00:23:43.780 days ago. It's disgusting that we won't let that man do that. This is endangering women and girls of

00:23:51.420 all kinds. Wait, what? How is it endangering women and girls to say that men can't go into the women's

00:23:57.180 bathroom? That would seem to me to be the opposite of endangering women and girls. This is an example

00:24:03.120 of something that Democrats do frequently, which is they just say words. And some people use rhetoric

00:24:11.800 and little clever tricks of their language to try to persuade or to spin realities. But this is

00:24:18.720 something Democrats seem to do a lot. She's just saying words that have no relation to reality,

00:24:23.620 but she's saying them emphatically and with passion and hoping that that will persuade people.

00:24:28.420 And it won't. So that's why I'm glad that AOC is pursuing this path. She has learned absolutely

00:24:33.880 nothing. This election, this landslide that went to Trump and the Republicans was in no small part due

00:24:39.740 to Democrats overstepping on the trans issue. Not even because people are so focused on the trans issue,

00:24:45.120 but because it was so offensive to people's intellects and it's so proved that the Democrats had lost the

00:24:49.680 common sense. If Democrats believe that a man is secretly a woman, if Democrats want to castrate

00:24:54.800 kids, then you can't trust Democrats on anything, on Ukraine, on immigration, on the economy, because

00:24:59.580 they've obviously lost their minds. They're not in touch with reality or the common sense. So AOC learned

00:25:05.080 nothing. Some Democrats are saying, look, maybe we need to moderate on identity politics. Look, maybe we

00:25:10.560 need to moderate on castrating little kids. Maybe we need to moderate. AOC says, no, it is repulsive to me

00:25:17.320 that we will not force women to use the bathroom and give up their private spaces to men who are mentally

00:25:23.240 ill and have bizarre sexual fantasies and disordered desires. That's repulsive to me. Okay, AOC, shout it from

00:25:29.960 the rooftops, put it on TV commercials. I'm all for it. She's learned nothing and we might get the 2024 results

00:25:35.820 next election too. Meanwhile, the wackos are proving Nancy Mace's point. Nancy Mace was giving a speech

00:25:44.280 and a man, some big hulking fella who dressed up as a lady, who has a lot of problems, obviously in

00:25:52.060 his mind. Stands up and tries to charge the stage. I'm sorry, we're moving with that in real time

00:26:01.260 right now. This is ridiculous. There's another man who's significantly shorter than the supposed

00:26:07.500 woman. People die this year because of the hate and lies that you are spreading. And if we want an

00:26:14.040 internet, are we building an internet with free speech for everyone or just the privileged few?

00:26:18.520 Are you going to stand up to the lives of trans people, black and brown people? Are we fighting

00:26:23.500 for justice or are we fighting for big tech? God loves him. I love him, but his penis isn't going to

00:26:32.980 be in my bathroom. So, um, at any rate, but we have a responsibility. Okay. All right. You get the

00:26:41.300 point. How dare you say that I'm not a beautiful woman and I can't use your bathroom. I'm going to

00:26:47.600 get up, run up on that stage and beat you to a bloody pulp chickie. Cause I'm a beautiful and feminine

00:26:53.040 and dainty woman. And you get the male security guard there who, who over whom this transvestite

00:27:01.140 towers, this hulking transvestite. You, I'm going to show you what a woman is. And the security guard

00:27:11.420 happily is able to constrain this deranged lunatic of a man and get him out of the assembly. But it seems

00:27:18.420 to prove the point because what if the security guard weren't there? What if people who by definition

00:27:23.980 are suffering from mental illness and severe perversion do find themselves in the bathroom

00:27:29.860 with Nancy Mace, whom they hate Nancy Mace, whom they regularly threatened to kill for objecting to

00:27:35.840 their deluded, uh, self-identity. What if, what if Nancy Mace is just there and they catch her with

00:27:42.380 her pants down, which is what happens in the bathroom and the security guards not there to

00:27:46.920 protect her, her, a victim of sexual assault. That's not acceptable. That's just not acceptable

00:27:53.420 for anyone. And it shouldn't take these kinds of incidents to prove it for the good of society.

00:27:59.860 I've said it before for the good of society. And especially for the good of the confused people

00:28:06.580 who have fallen prey to this ideology, transgenderism must be eradicated from public

00:28:12.280 life entirely. The whole preposterous ideology at every level. Period. Punto e basta. Speaking of

00:28:21.160 strange ideology, Jaguar, Jaguar, the preferred car company of wealthy British women has just decided

00:28:30.160 to rebrand and Jaguar's rebranding has come through a viral commercial. Take it away.

00:28:41.420 For those who cannot see, it's a bunch of androgynous individuals wearing high fashion haute couture

00:28:50.740 sorts of dresses and suits. Carrying sledgehammers and seem to be on planet Mars or something.

00:29:00.160 Copy nothing. Jaguar. Jaguar. Buy a Jaguar and you can become androgynous and really weird.

00:29:14.340 Jaguar. Jaguar was always kind of a posh British luxury car brand. Not, you know, just sort of

00:29:24.000 expensive, but still tasteful. And now it's really weird and transsexual and androgynous and colorful

00:29:32.500 and bizarre. I don't think I'm speaking with hyperbole when I say this is why Trump won.

00:29:40.700 The fact that Jaguar needs to go trans is why Trump won. I have a little advice to corporate America

00:29:47.560 America and to the people who run our institutions. Not everything has to be gay. Not every. I'm not

00:29:56.220 saying some things are going to be kind of gay. The YMCA, I guess, is kind of gay. It's been in that

00:29:59.920 song for 50 years now. Some things are going to be a little bit show tunes. They're always going to be

00:30:05.100 a little bit gay. I mean, plenty of straight people like them, but it's, but not everything has to be

00:30:10.380 gay. Some things can be normal. It's okay. The stuffy old British car driven by wealthy women

00:30:19.740 predominantly, that doesn't have to be gay. But the most people who voted for Trump actually don't

00:30:27.920 really care if some things are gay. They don't really think that much about politics or, but what

00:30:32.760 they object to is that everything has to be gay, that kindergarten classrooms and libraries have to

00:30:37.580 be gay. That's what they object to that. It's just constantly crammed down your throat and no one

00:30:41.940 wants that. Okay. But that's fine. Jaguar. I want, I want every campaign ad in the future to be the

00:30:48.640 new Jaguar ad and AOC talking about how we got to shove dudes into the women's bathroom. And I want

00:30:53.780 that they've learned nothing. That's great. Keep playing it. I I'm all for it. Now there's so much

00:30:59.640 more I want to get to. My friend Lauren Southern was just speaking at Canadian parliament. I want to get to

00:31:05.120 that. A Democrat strategist doesn't know what, what weapons that military uses. A Bob Casey finally

00:31:13.160 conceded in Pennsylvania. So Dave McCormick is, he was already officially the Senator elect, but now

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00:33:39.500 Hi, Michael. As I'm sure you've seen, the day after the election, there was much wailing and gnashing

00:33:44.440 of teeth from our leftist friends. I saw a particular argument made by a leftist quote-unquote lawyer

00:33:53.220 who stated that due to the Dobbs decision, conservatives were coming for quote interracial

00:33:59.420 marriage. She based her claim based off of the use of stare decisis. I think I'm pronouncing that

00:34:05.740 correctly, which is basically the court's precedent. I made the argument that Alito's decision had

00:34:11.880 very little to do with stare decisis and more to do with the separation of Roe versus Wade and by

00:34:20.040 nature Casey from the 14th Amendment and the protections it ensues. I argued that Loving

00:34:25.740 is clearly protected under the 14th Amendment and that Alito's separation of Roe and Casey from Loving

00:34:33.940 and by making a distinction between Roe and Loving that Alito actually affirms Loving's protection under

00:34:41.840 the 14th Amendment while stripping Roe and Casey's protections of the 14th. Do you agree with my

00:34:48.740 analysis of the Dobbs decision and am I understanding the ruling correctly? Love the show. Thanks.

00:34:55.100 Great question. I agree with your top line analysis that no, the Dobbs decision over ruling Roe v. Wade

00:34:59.820 does not imperil Loving v. Virginia, you know, the ruling that brought us a constitutional right to

00:35:07.900 interracial marriage. It does not, there is no threat to interracial marriage anywhere in the

00:35:12.240 United States. One bit of evidence for this is that one of the great Supreme Court justices who brought

00:35:17.660 us the Dobbs decision is himself in an interracial marriage. That would be Clarence Thomas. So that's

00:35:23.560 totally ridiculous. The reason though, the reason for the question about that doesn't really rest on

00:35:29.280 stare decisis, stare decisis which is respect for court precedent. It rests more on a questioning of

00:35:34.260 substantive due process. Substantive due process, which does play a role in the Loving decision,

00:35:41.040 but substantive due process is something that is rejected by Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito and

00:35:46.300 questioned by guys like Antonin Scalia. Substantive due process, we would say, is a contradiction

00:35:52.920 in terms because due process refers to a process that people have. You know, you commit a crime,

00:35:58.320 you're arrested, you're brought up on charges, you face a trial, maybe you're convicted by a jury of

00:36:02.460 your peers. That's a process. Substantive due process says that there is a substance, substantive

00:36:09.300 matters that can, that basically take the place of due process. And you know, you can be found to have

00:36:16.240 a violation of your due process because of substantive claims and that I'm giving a poorly articulated and

00:36:21.600 overly simplistic view of it. That's basically what it is. So substantive due process is pretty

00:36:26.880 much ridiculous. And so if the Dobbs decision were to say substantive due process is totally out,

00:36:34.180 it's a bunch of bunk, it's total nonsense, then that could raise questions about all sorts of court

00:36:38.240 cases. But the bottom line of it is the reason the Dobbs decision, the other reason the Dobbs decision

00:36:43.940 does not in any way imperil interracial marriage is one, the justices say that in the opinion that this

00:36:49.640 does not imperil loving. But also there's just no appetite. Nobody wants to abolish interracial

00:36:56.860 marriage or outlaw interracial marriage or do anything to interracial marriage. Nobody wants

00:37:00.400 that. Half the country wanted to stop the killing of little babies. So that's the other, just as a

00:37:07.880 practical prudential reason, there is no political appetite. If there's a political appetite for

00:37:11.620 anything, there is a chance that that thing could come to pass and be brought into being in a

00:37:17.020 self-governing republic such as ours. But there is no appetite for that. And the Dobbs decision

00:37:23.440 explicitly does not imperil that. So it's a bunch of nonsense. But it's not just nonsense because of

00:37:28.040 stare decisis. There is this question about substantive due process, which we should continue

00:37:32.580 to pursue as being mostly ridiculous because the libs have rammed a lot of nonsense through using

00:37:38.060 substantive due process. Next question. Hey, Mike, a lot of conservatives are celebrating a lot of

00:37:43.980 things right now. And one of the things they're celebrating is people like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk

00:37:49.400 with their huge followings coming into the fold and endorsing Trump, which is a really big deal.

00:37:55.820 But my fear is that since these people are not ideological conservatives and they're just sort of

00:38:00.720 calling the shots as they see them, they might likely just go right back to supporting Democrats in

00:38:06.500 2028. Let's say that the Democrats, for example, learn something and they put forward someone that's

00:38:12.760 more moderate in 2028, like Andrew Yang or something. Do you really think that Joe Rogan would

00:38:18.860 vote for, say, J.D. Vance over Andrew Yang? What are your thoughts? Yeah, maybe he would. First of all, I

00:38:26.880 don't consider Andrew Yang to be moderate at all. I think Andrew Yang is pretty radical. He's calling for a

00:38:31.820 universal basic income and demanding that we create wages and tax forms for people having a wife. And

00:38:38.540 I don't know, he's pretty, he seems like a really nice guy, but he's politically, he seems quite

00:38:42.440 radical to me. As for Joe Rogan, though, yeah, I guess he could support Andrew Yang or someone like

00:38:49.300 him in 2028. But I don't know. It's not as though politics is static, that this time he endorsed this

00:38:54.360 guy, next time he'll endorse the opposite guy. It's, you know, we're creatures of habit. So the more

00:38:58.280 that Joe Rogan is brought into the Trump world and the conservative fold, I think the more likely he

00:39:04.340 is to support those kinds of candidates in the future. What happens if next time Bobby Kennedy

00:39:09.360 endorses the Democrat? I don't know. We'll deal with that then. I'm not going to give up the win

00:39:12.740 today because of some hypothetical loss we might have in the future. I don't think that's how politics

00:39:17.600 works. I don't think you win by losing. I think you win by winning. There are people who legitimately

00:39:21.180 think you win by losing, that to lose an election is good because it'll force us to recalibrate,

00:39:25.920 ensure the libs will pack the court and destroy our system of government in the meantime. But

00:39:30.020 don't worry, next time we'll have a really great candidate that is beloved by, you know,

00:39:34.160 60-year-old conservative desiccated institutions. I don't buy that for one second. I think we win by

00:39:40.320 winning. I think we are winning right now. And we just need to take the people who have taken the

00:39:44.560 first little step. They put their feet into the shallow end of conservatism. We need to lead them

00:39:48.760 with charity and grace into the deeper end of the pool. We don't want to repel them.

00:39:53.620 We don't want to create obstacles to them deepening their conservatism. We want to pull them in and

00:39:58.580 encourage them because politics often comes down to the distinction between friend and enemy. We

00:40:03.860 want to be their friends and people tend to become more like their friends. Next question.

00:40:09.420 Hi, Michael. I have a faith question for you. I was baptized in a non-denominational Protestant church

00:40:15.980 in 2019 and then my husband was baptized shortly after in 2020. We've really grown in our faith

00:40:22.900 and I personally feel like my faith journey is leading me towards the Catholic church just because

00:40:29.080 I am on fire for Christ. My husband seems to be too, but he has his reservations about

00:40:36.240 the Catholic church. I've tried to speak with him about things that I've learned and he seems very

00:40:42.940 resistant. I don't want to go against my husband because he is the leader of our family. However,

00:40:49.820 I really do feel like I want to have my children baptized. I feel this calling very strongly.

00:40:57.680 How do I convince my husband or how can I speak to my husband to help him understand my point of

00:41:04.020 view and to get him on board to lead us as our family to the Catholic church? I really appreciate

00:41:10.060 your advice. Thank you. Really good question and phrased really, really well because you're saying,

00:41:15.240 look, I respect my husband as the head of the household and I don't want to be in opposition

00:41:20.480 to him in any way, all of which is very, very good. Now, there is a reminder here as pertains to your

00:41:24.960 own conversion. It reminds me of St. Thomas More describing Henry VIII, who as St. Thomas More is

00:41:31.540 about to be executed because he won't give up his faith. He says, I die the king's loyal subject,

00:41:38.260 but God's first. And so you might say the same thing about your husband. You say, look, I am my

00:41:43.580 husband's loyal subject, but God's first. So I wouldn't allow that to impede your conversion and

00:41:48.500 your practicing the Catholic faith. And you might then just take the opportunity to answer some of

00:41:54.480 your husband's objections to Catholicism. I forget if it was Ronald Knox or Fulton Sheen or John Henry

00:41:59.840 Newman. I confuse often the great quotables of Catholicism. But they say, there are not 100 people in the

00:42:07.200 country who seriously oppose the Catholic faith. There are a million people who oppose what they

00:42:13.700 mistakenly believe to be the Catholic faith, but it's usually a lot of fake news. There's a good

00:42:18.320 podcast, if you're so inclined, that I just listened to on the Thomistic Institute on the differences,

00:42:24.080 the similarities and differences between Martin Luther's view of justification and grace and St.

00:42:28.660 Thomas Aquinas' view, the Catholic view, which is really good. That sort of thing might help bring him

00:42:33.220 in. St. John Henry Newman said, 10,000 questions don't make one doubt. It's very good to have

00:42:39.120 questions about the faith. I still have many questions, but it doesn't make one doubt. So I

00:42:43.040 would do that. I think it's important for your kids to be baptized. Let the little children come

00:42:47.720 to me. But one way that you might express this to your husband, who maybe doesn't support infant

00:42:54.060 baptism, is to point out that given some of his Protestant priors, actually infant baptism is a

00:43:02.600 great thing to do. If, and again, I'm just guessing, but if your husband's opposition to Catholicism is

00:43:09.060 that he mistakenly believes Catholicism to be a works-based salvation or anything like that, then

00:43:14.580 you might point out that infant baptism actually acknowledges God's sovereignty, that infant baptism

00:43:22.460 is not only scriptural. You see it take place in the book of Acts. And I think you hear our Lord

00:43:27.400 encourage it in the Gospels. But actually, it takes the individual will of earning salvation totally

00:43:36.760 out of the question, because infant baptism in particular recognizes that the gift of salvation

00:43:42.760 is coming from God gratuitously. It is a matter of his grace. It is not the sort of thing we earn with

00:43:49.620 our will. Little babies can't earn anything with their own will. So in a way, you could say, look,

00:43:54.080 it's putting all of the focus on God. It's proving that this grace is not earned, that it is truly

00:43:59.180 gracious. And honey, it would really make me feel better. And here are all the reasons I like. And

00:44:03.980 if I think it really matters, and you think it really doesn't matter at all, then would you mind

00:44:10.600 just giving it to me, since it's something that really matters to me and doesn't matter to you?

00:44:15.520 Those would be some ways I would phrase it. And then through that conversation,

00:44:20.040 assuming it's done in love, you can both really grow in faith. And I think I'll swim the Tiber.

00:44:24.580 Next question.

00:44:28.700 Hello, Michael, and thank you for taking my question. I'm 23, and I've been dating my girlfriend for

00:44:34.060 almost five years. I would like to propose to her and get married, but there's a problem.

00:44:39.400 Both of us are 23, in college, broke, and we're living with my parents. I myself am not even working

00:44:48.800 because I've been trying to find a job, but no one wants to hire me because of my school schedule.

00:44:53.840 Right now, it doesn't seem like it would make sense for us to get married financially,

00:44:58.300 but I would like to make this next step. I could propose to her and us just stay engaged for a while,

00:45:05.680 but I wouldn't really care for that. I was hoping you could give me some advice on how I could navigate

00:45:11.720 this situation, whether it be propose and just stay engaged for a while, or just wait until we are

00:45:18.660 both financially stable. Thank you.

00:45:21.580 Good question. You don't need to wait until you're both financially stable. You don't need to wait until

00:45:24.960 you can afford a Maserati or something like that. But I would recommend not becoming the formal head

00:45:30.480 of a household until you can have a household, until you have some form of employment. I'm not

00:45:39.900 even saying until you're out of debt. I'm not even saying until you're out of college. I'm not saying

00:45:43.160 necessarily any of that, but I would recommend making sure that you've got some sure footing because

00:45:48.920 the role of a husband is not just a personal relationship to a wife. The role of a husband is

00:45:55.280 really an office that comes with a lot of responsibilities. So if you're going to assume that office,

00:45:59.340 you need to make sure that you can carry out the duties of that office, at the very least at the

00:46:03.220 minimum level. So what I would do if I were in your case, you find this girl, you really like her,

00:46:07.600 she's the one, is I would propose, lock it down. You know, maybe you're engaged for a year or something

00:46:14.520 like that. That's not too long. You're finishing up school. And then I would make sure that you have a

00:46:19.260 job and you have at least a path toward some kind of independence, household independence.

00:46:26.400 You know, make sure that you've got that all locked down. That will also greatly reduce the

00:46:32.160 stress in your early marriage. And it will give you greater authority and credibility as the head

00:46:38.120 of your household. So that's what I would do. And it means you've got to delay that fun thing,

00:46:41.540 you know, that married couples do. But that's okay. A little patience. Patience can be sanctifying

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