The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 163 - Bad Jokes： Roseanne And The Left’s Fake Outrage

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00:00:38.420 Roseanne Barr told a joke in poor taste about an ex-government aide, 1.00

00:00:43.120 and so within five seconds, ABC has canceled one of the most popular shows in the country.

00:00:48.220 We will explain why the left pounced.

00:00:50.840 We will analyze the fake outrage and where the problem really lies.

00:00:54.880 Meanwhile, nuclear talks with North Korea proceed a pace.

00:00:57.980 Everything is tickety-boo, so we just have to make up reasons to be all upset and angry.

00:01:02.480 Then, Carol Markowitz stops by to discuss why New York Democrats are especially corrupt.

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00:03:52.180 I wanted to get into some of the racial stereotypes and poor jokes by talking about Peter Millar

00:03:57.760 because what we've got to talk about today is Roseanne Barr.

00:04:01.320 This is breaking news.

00:04:02.400 It just happened not 20 minutes ago.

00:04:04.840 ABC News has canceled Roseanne's mega super hit revival of her sitcom.

00:04:11.340 They canceled it because Roseanne told a bad joke that was in poor taste and had a racial 1.00

00:04:16.060 component on Twitter.

00:04:17.520 And so they canceled it instantaneously.

00:04:20.280 It was so, so fast.

00:04:21.900 Now, what was the joke?

00:04:23.200 She told a joke about Valerie Jarrett, an ex-government aide. 0.96

00:04:26.860 The response was swift.

00:04:28.560 It happened immediately.

00:04:29.660 Now they're all out of work.

00:04:30.880 Meanwhile, do you remember Kathy Griffin held up Donald Trump's bloodied head in that joke

00:04:36.620 that was also in poor taste?

00:04:38.080 But it took a long time for her to, you know, people turn.

00:04:41.640 Should she lose her job?

00:04:43.240 Should she still go on CNN?

00:04:44.760 The question is, why is Kathy Griffin a C-list comedian on CNN to begin with? 0.94

00:04:49.480 Oh, right, because they're fake news.

00:04:51.380 Michelle Wolfe insulted the appearance of Sarah Sanders, the sitting press secretary

00:04:55.420 at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, to her face.

00:04:58.220 Everyone's defending her on the left.

00:04:59.940 Everyone's defending Kathy Griffin on the left.

00:05:01.780 Kathy Griffin, both of whom are unapologetic, by the way.

00:05:04.260 Both of them are currently unapologetic about their jokes.

00:05:07.700 Roseanne apologized right away.

00:05:09.200 She knew that she crossed the line.

00:05:11.420 She knew the joke was weak.

00:05:13.080 It was mean.

00:05:13.660 It wasn't nice.

00:05:14.720 And nevertheless, they canceled her really quickly.

00:05:17.180 ABC wrote, quote, Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant, and inconsistent with

00:05:22.200 our values, and we have decided to cancel her show.

00:05:25.540 So what I'm going to do here is attack the left and the immediacy of this response, the

00:05:30.920 way that they responded to this.

00:05:32.240 But I have to be crystal clear these days because the left is so ready to pounce.

00:05:36.580 That's kind of the point of this show today.

00:05:38.420 They're so, they're looking for anything.

00:05:40.900 Things are going so, so well in this country.

00:05:43.120 They need anything to try to attack the right, even if it's minor, even if it's a misdirection

00:05:48.120 or whatever.

00:05:49.100 But I want to be crystal clear.

00:05:51.920 I am not defending the joke.

00:05:53.960 It was not a good joke.

00:05:55.320 It was mean.

00:05:56.220 It was in poor taste.

00:05:57.440 I am not defending the joke.

00:05:59.560 But what was so wrong about the joke?

00:06:02.440 We'll analyze that.

00:06:03.260 We'll see why it failed, why it was weak, and why the left, I think, is disingenuous as

00:06:08.340 they're attacking it.

00:06:09.100 But, um, so, okay, let's, we've, we've introed this enough.

00:06:13.540 What did Roseanne say?

00:06:14.760 Roseanne told this joke, quote, because it was in a tweet, so it's not terribly grammatical,

00:06:19.720 but this is it.

00:06:20.800 Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby equals VJ. 0.90

00:06:27.040 And VJ is standing for Valerie Jarrett.

00:06:30.280 You're not doubled over, guffawing with laughter?

00:06:32.940 Of course not.

00:06:33.620 It's not a very good joke.

00:06:35.280 You're not, I don't think anybody is saying, ah, ha, ha, Roseanne, right.

00:06:38.080 Just not a good joke.

00:06:39.100 It's in poor taste.

00:06:39.940 And she apologized immediately.

00:06:41.520 She said, quote,

00:06:42.140 She tweeted that out immediately.

00:06:55.880 She didn't, not like some of these other comedians on the left or on the, who, you know, takes

00:07:00.480 them days to even sort of apologize, or in Kathy Griffin's case, she unapologizes.

00:07:05.580 She did it immediately, and she was right to do it because the joke was not good.

00:07:09.480 So now we have to ask ourselves, is this apology legitimate?

00:07:13.280 Did she really mean what she said? 0.98

00:07:16.040 Or does Roseanne Barr just hate black people, just want to discriminate against black people, 1.00

00:07:22.360 just really hate them? 0.99

00:07:23.400 Which is the more likely scenario?

00:07:26.720 100% of people think it is the former.

00:07:29.940 Nobody, I think Roseanne cast a black child to play her granddaughter on the revival of Roseanne.

00:07:36.460 I don't think that, I don't think she's out there with the tiki torches and the pointy white hats.

00:07:41.220 I don't think she has racial animus. 1.00

00:07:42.960 I think she told a bad joke.

00:07:44.980 Isn't that legitimate?

00:07:46.040 Does anybody out there seriously believe that Roseanne is this angry, bitter, vicious, 1.00

00:07:51.200 anti-black racist who wants to bring back Jim Crow? 0.99

00:07:55.900 No, nobody believes that. 0.96

00:07:57.080 But we all have to pretend that now because things are going too well in the country.

00:08:01.300 And Roseanne had to show she had the audacity to vote for Donald Trump. 0.99

00:08:04.360 So they got to take her down. 0.94

00:08:05.660 They got to hit anyone even vaguely associated with Trump.

00:08:08.720 To understand this joke, we will analyze this joke very precisely and why Roseanne shouldn't

00:08:15.360 have her entire life ruined because of it, but why the left is going after it. 0.99

00:08:18.960 Before we do that, we have to explain who is Valerie Jarrett.

00:08:22.280 People don't know a lot about her.

00:08:23.880 Valerie Jarrett had the ear of Barack Obama for his entire two terms in the White House. 1.00

00:08:28.540 She was a senior, senior advisor.

00:08:29.940 She's very close to the Obamas, but we don't know a lot about her.

00:08:32.700 Well, I do, but it's because I took five minutes to Google it.

00:08:35.800 Most people don't know a lot about her.

00:08:37.660 So she's a senior advisor.

00:08:39.120 She was the co-chairman of the Obama-Biden transition team.

00:08:43.440 She helped set up everything in this White House.

00:08:46.220 And the first part of the Roseanne joke, which is not being talked about, is linking Valerie

00:08:51.840 Jarrett to the Muslim Brotherhood. 0.93

00:08:53.460 Why is it not being talked about?

00:08:54.680 Because they can't refute that charge.

00:08:56.320 Valerie Jarrett, a senior, senior advisor to Barack Obama, does have ties to the Muslim

00:09:00.980 Brotherhood, and she has ties to a lot of radical extreme leftist groups.

00:09:05.020 What are those?

00:09:05.640 Well, Judicial Watch, that wonderful government watchdog, was able to get files from the FBI

00:09:11.800 that show that Jarrett's father, that her maternal grandfather, and her father-in-law were

00:09:17.240 all hardcore communists.

00:09:19.000 They were under FBI surveillance.

00:09:21.260 Why is that?

00:09:21.820 Well, Valerie Jarrett's father, Dr. James Bowman, he corresponded and communicated with

00:09:27.920 and spoke to a paid Soviet agent, Alfred Stern, half a century ago.

00:09:34.100 And this guy, Stern, was indicted.

00:09:35.840 We know this guy was a Soviet agent.

00:09:39.400 Bowman then moved to Iran for work in the 1950s.

00:09:42.980 That's where Valerie Jarrett was born.

00:09:44.860 Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran.

00:09:46.060 Her maternal grandfather, Robert Rochon Taylor, also had business ties to that Soviet agent,

00:09:53.080 Stern.

00:09:53.940 And so they all moved around D.C., Chicago, Iran. 0.97

00:09:57.520 I don't know which place is worse.

00:09:59.040 I don't know which, I mean, is that the axis of evil?

00:10:01.820 No, that's too, that's not nice enough.

00:10:03.380 That's just a joke.

00:10:04.660 I'm just telling a joke.

00:10:05.880 Don't cancel my ABC sitcom for that.

00:10:08.180 So Valerie Jarrett, her father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, is a big-time Chicago communist.

00:10:12.980 He was considered by the FBI, we know from these documents, to be a potential communist

00:10:17.900 saboteur.

00:10:19.320 Jarrett has ties, along with our president, to Frank Marshall Davis, a well-known communist.

00:10:23.780 And Jarrett has ties to a lot of Muslim Brotherhood-linked organizations.

00:10:28.960 Just a brief overview.

00:10:30.380 What is the Muslim Brotherhood?

00:10:31.640 That phrase gets thrown around a lot.

00:10:33.560 What do they actually want to do?

00:10:35.120 What do they want to accomplish?

00:10:36.180 The Obama administration tried to convince us that the Muslim Brotherhood is this moderate.

00:10:40.500 These are the good guys.

00:10:41.320 These are the reformers.

00:10:42.980 They're not.

00:10:43.860 We know from a 1991 memorandum from the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, the group's stated goal

00:10:50.200 is, quote, eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.

00:10:56.060 These are the ties to the senior advisor of the president.

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00:12:59.300 Now back to Roseanne.

00:13:00.920 So back to Valerie Jarrett first. 0.87

00:13:02.840 So that is Valerie Jarrett. 0.84

00:13:04.720 She has these connections to the Muslim Brotherhood, and that was part of Roseanne's attempted joke.

00:13:10.540 So even early on in the Obama administration, 2009, the Obama administration chose Ingrid

00:13:17.560 Mattson, who's a leader of a Muslim Brotherhood-linked group, the Islamic Society of North America,

00:13:22.380 to give a prayer at that inauguration.

00:13:24.920 But what did they do after that?

00:13:26.220 Barack Obama sent Valerie Jarrett, this senior advisor, to be the keynote speaker at an ISNA

00:13:32.160 national conference linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:13:35.060 After that, Barack Obama tapped Arif Ali Khan to be Assistant Secretary for Policy Development

00:13:40.960 at the Department of Homeland Security.

00:13:43.760 He did that two weeks after Ali Khan participated in a fundraiser for the Muslim Public Affairs

00:13:49.480 Council, which is another admittedly Muslim Brotherhood-linked group.

00:13:54.120 Documents from that group, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, admit to following immediately

00:13:58.640 in the footsteps of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood and being linked to that organization

00:14:02.880 too.

00:14:03.840 So that is Valerie Jarrett. 0.84

00:14:06.880 Now that we have that, let's get to the joke.

00:14:10.540 Roseanne's joke has two components to it. 0.82

00:14:12.820 One is ideological, one is racial.

00:14:15.940 In Roseanne's apology, she said, I'm sorry for joking in this way about Valerie Jarrett's

00:14:20.380 politics and race.

00:14:22.480 You know, it wasn't nice, and I'm sorry.

00:14:24.400 But Roseanne, because she constructed the joke, because it wasn't attempted a joke, knew there

00:14:29.300 are these two aspects to it, the Muslim Brotherhood line and then the ape line, the Planet of the 0.99

00:14:34.360 Apes line.

00:14:35.600 An example of this joke, if you were to make this joke about little old me, for instance,

00:14:40.240 you could say, William F. Buckley Jr. and a bottle of Bertolli Extra Virgin had a baby.

00:14:47.360 MK.

00:14:48.540 Right?

00:14:48.800 That is the exact parallel of that joke.

00:14:51.080 You have the ideological component, and then you have this racial component, because I don't

00:14:55.180 know, maybe you're very naive and young and idealistic and pure, but Italian people are 0.99

00:14:59.500 sometimes compared to olive oil.

00:15:01.840 Now, what's interesting is that the left only takes issue with the racial part here.

00:15:07.340 They don't, they're not attacking her for saying, how dare you say Valerie Jarrett is

00:15:11.460 related to the Muslim Brotherhood?

00:15:13.480 Because the one, the racial joke is just a very basic, low-hanging racial joke.

00:15:19.280 But the ideological joke is, I think, more interesting, right?

00:15:23.640 It's about what Valerie Jarrett thinks, what she believes.

00:15:26.080 You're accusing her of having relations with this extremist Muslim group, but that part,

00:15:32.140 they can't attack because it's true.

00:15:34.180 So I think they know that.

00:15:35.460 Okay, we're not going to get that one. 0.95

00:15:36.840 Let's hit her with the lower-hanging racist line. 1.00

00:15:39.860 So the left pounced immediately.

00:15:41.760 Joe Scarborough, right after this comes out, Joe Scarborough goes, hey, ABC, Roseanne compared

00:15:47.180 Valerie Jarrett to an ape.

00:15:48.520 There is no apology she can make that justifies ABC turning a blind eye to this bigotry by airing

00:15:54.440 another second of her show. 0.91

00:15:56.940 Even in the age of Trump, these are red lines that can never be crossed.

00:16:01.700 Al Sharpton.

00:16:02.340 You knew Al Sharpton was going to get on the scene.

00:16:04.380 I'm surprised Al Sharpton didn't start tweeting about this before it even happened.

00:16:07.580 Sharpton tweets out, quote,

00:16:08.980 Then another one, DeRay McKesson, who came to prominence as an activist during the Black

00:16:23.320 Lives Matter moment.

00:16:24.560 He tweeted out, quote,

00:16:25.320 ABC, how desperate are you to profit from Roseanne's racism? 0.99

00:16:29.680 We know racism sells in this country.

00:16:31.820 It always has.

00:16:33.020 But you don't have to participate in it.

00:16:34.560 This apology is meaningless.

00:16:36.640 Cancel Roseanne. 1.00

00:16:37.460 And this is an important charge because DeRay McKesson is saying her apology is BS.

00:16:43.940 I won't accept her apology.

00:16:45.080 I think it's fake.

00:16:46.060 I think it's fraudulent.

00:16:46.940 I'm not going to do it.

00:16:47.720 What happens?

00:16:48.300 ABC immediately cancels Roseanne.

00:16:50.740 Immediately.

00:16:51.640 Has there been a board meeting?

00:16:53.440 Have they been talking to Roseanne's agents or looking into this or looking into Roseanne's

00:16:58.260 history?

00:16:58.960 No.

00:16:59.560 Canceled immediately.

00:17:00.620 And that's the problem here because I am not defending the joke.

00:17:04.060 I'm just comparing the treatment that Roseanne got for making a joke and poor taste about 1.00

00:17:09.520 aspects of people's identity and that maybe offend a lot of people or go over the line

00:17:13.520 or whatever.

00:17:14.040 I'm comparing that to so many other comedians who have gotten way better treatment.

00:17:19.620 Actually, here's the great example of this.

00:17:21.540 This happened 25 minutes ago.

00:17:23.520 Because politics at this point is beyond parody, we have superseded parody, Andrea Mitchell of

00:17:29.980 NBC thought it would be a good idea to interview one of the NBC contributors about this whole

00:17:35.400 dust up on someone making offensive comments about broad groups of people on social media

00:17:40.780 and on the internet.

00:17:41.680 Who does she ask? 0.99

00:17:42.860 Joy Reid.

00:17:43.620 Take a look.

00:17:44.060 And then I want to also ask you about, it's hard to believe, but Roseanne Barr, and she

00:17:50.600 has been tweeting outrageous things, but she tweeted about the Obama administration and

00:17:58.500 Valerie Jarrett and made a really horrendous comment about Valerie Jarrett. 0.98

00:18:05.120 Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby, VJ, meaning Valerie Jarrett. 0.57

00:18:09.720 Now she has apologized to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans, saying, I'm truly sorry

00:18:14.060 for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks.

00:18:16.880 I should have known better.

00:18:17.980 Forgive me.

00:18:18.400 My joke was in bad taste.

00:18:20.980 I mean, what do you have to do on social media to get fired from a top rated show on an American

00:18:28.000 broadcast network?

00:18:32.540 I'll rephrase that.

00:18:33.960 What do you have to do on social media to get fired from an American broadcast network?

00:18:41.340 Just to remind you, because I know politics moves so fast these days that you've probably

00:18:45.240 forgotten about the news cycle of a week ago.

00:18:47.600 Joy Reid was just discovered to have made a ton of very offensive tweets about broad groups

00:18:53.700 of people on social media years ago on her blog.

00:18:56.920 She tweeted out, she accused gay men of all wanting to, all being sexually attracted to 0.96

00:19:04.220 young teenage boys. 0.99

00:19:05.840 Said, oh yeah, everybody knows this about gay men. 1.00

00:19:08.720 They all want to have sex with young teenage boys. 1.00

00:19:11.640 She tweeted out, homophobic is the term that's being used, anti-gay slurs, anti-gay accusations, 1.00

00:19:19.860 anti-gay jokes, right?

00:19:21.800 All over her social media. 0.57

00:19:23.420 And then it was discovered.

00:19:24.780 And then do you know what she did?

00:19:25.820 She lied about it.

00:19:26.560 She said, oh no, I don't, I don't remember doing that.

00:19:29.560 No, I think I was hacked.

00:19:30.880 By the way, when someone says they were hacked for something they said or did, that's how

00:19:34.820 you know they did it.

00:19:35.740 That's the Anthony Weiner rule.

00:19:38.060 You know, you know that she did it.

00:19:40.260 Joy Reid actually did all of this.

00:19:42.240 And what happened?

00:19:43.200 Did even MSNBC, which is left of Lenin, they said, oh no, we don't need to fire her. 1.00

00:19:47.780 No, you know, hey, look, she made these horribly offensive comments just a little while 1.00

00:19:51.780 ago, but you know, we'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

00:19:54.380 Roseanne makes an offensive joke, a bad joke. 1.00

00:19:56.560 Joke and poor taste, immediately canceled.

00:19:59.580 Massive ratings, immediately canceled.

00:20:01.800 So, okay, Roseanne was right to apologize, sure.

00:20:05.760 I actually don't think people understand why this joke was in bad taste, why it was right

00:20:10.100 to apologize.

00:20:10.960 Before we explain the joke for all of the humorless left, because the defining feature of the

00:20:16.320 left in the Trump era is its humorlessness.

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00:22:35.360 So why is this joke so bad from Roseanne?

00:22:38.600 So it's the racial component.

00:22:40.860 There is this racial component.

00:22:42.440 Now, what about that is so bad?

00:22:44.820 Well, all racial jokes of this quality, they all attempt to portray people as animals or uncivilized or unconscious.

00:22:54.260 So it basically – all the jokes play on taking a human being who has consciousness and saying you're not really conscious.

00:23:00.220 You're like a brute. 0.97

00:23:01.560 You're – so for black people who have dark skin, a racial joke along that line will compare them to an animal that has dark skin. 1.00

00:23:10.220 But this trope has existed in other places too.

00:23:13.440 In Black Panther, in the comic book and the movie Black Panther, there's a character, M'Baku, and his other name is Man-Ape.

00:23:21.140 They're drawing that parallel, right, because he's this brutal, adversarial character.

00:23:26.240 These jokes exist for other races too. 0.82

00:23:28.080 This isn't just a line of joking for black people.

00:23:31.280 Now, I'll use the race that constitutes my own ethnic heritage so that I don't get Roseanne, so that I don't – somehow ABC is going to fire me.

00:23:39.480 Say, ABC, you haven't employed me.

00:23:41.000 Well, yeah, okay, you're getting fired anyway.

00:23:42.820 So for Italians, you hear the term – we'll just use the term greaseball. 0.98

00:23:46.160 You ever hear that for Italians? 0.97

00:23:47.600 So what is this for? 0.96

00:23:49.660 Well, it's saying southern Italians are – they're less refined. 0.99

00:23:52.760 They're brutal. 1.00

00:23:53.620 They're more like an animal. 0.91

00:23:54.820 They're unhygienic.

00:23:55.960 They're covered in grease.

00:23:57.200 They don't shower.

00:23:58.200 They're not aware of themselves.

00:24:00.260 They're not aware of how, you know, brutal they are, so they can't take care of it.

00:24:04.380 Another one used in Italy is terrone, which comes from the land, right?

00:24:08.180 He's a tiller of the land.

00:24:09.440 He's a laborer.

00:24:10.260 He only works with his hands.

00:24:11.700 He can't work with his head.

00:24:12.920 That's what a lot of these go to.

00:24:15.100 Now, here's another one.

00:24:16.660 You ever hear the term honky?

00:24:17.840 That's used for white people? 0.94

00:24:19.400 Honky, it doesn't just come from nowhere.

00:24:21.200 I know it's a little – it evokes this image of a car horn or something.

00:24:24.780 What it comes from, it's actually an Hungarian insult.

00:24:27.380 It's an insult from the mispronunciation of honky from Hungarians, and it's referring to Hungarian laborers, manual laborers who don't work with their minds, work with their hands. 0.93

00:24:36.580 All of them.

00:24:37.160 Roseanne's Planet of the Apes reference, greaseball, Dago is an Italian one, hungary, you know, honky from your hands. 0.99

00:24:46.280 All of them just mock the lack of consciousness.

00:24:49.820 Now, why is it in poor taste?

00:24:51.780 Because with Valerie Jarrett, it came out of nowhere.

00:24:54.580 So Valerie Jarrett is this very sophisticated woman.

00:24:58.180 You might despise her politics.

00:24:59.920 She might have radical ties. 0.92

00:25:02.100 But she is a very intelligent woman.

00:25:05.460 She – the joke just isn't funny.

00:25:09.160 Her race is not central to what's funny about Valerie Jarrett as a character.

00:25:13.680 She's a radical.

00:25:14.500 That's the central aspect, not her race.

00:25:17.320 And so anyway, we get out of this, this feigned outrage from the left, and I really think it's feigned.

00:25:24.740 I really think so.

00:25:26.080 Is the joke offensive?

00:25:27.420 Yeah.

00:25:27.860 Is it mean?

00:25:28.660 Is it low?

00:25:29.360 Is it not funny?

00:25:30.500 Sure.

00:25:30.900 Yeah, right. 0.98

00:25:32.460 But does the left really think that she hates black people, that Roseanne is some secret neo-Nazi? 0.94

00:25:36.640 I don't think so. 0.85

00:25:37.480 And the way that I know it's feigned is because of Kathy Griffin and Michelle Wolf.

00:25:41.260 Michelle – Kathy Griffin, rather, holds up this photo of Donald Trump's decapitated head. 0.97

00:25:46.880 And it's covered in blood and all of that.

00:25:48.920 And then she – we know she doesn't like Trump.

00:25:52.420 She said awful things about the guy.

00:25:54.220 And she's unapologetic about it.

00:25:56.460 Roseanne apologized.

00:25:57.260 Kathy Griffin didn't apologize.

00:25:58.620 She apologized and then she unapologized.

00:26:00.360 Here you go.

00:26:00.740 She told as herself.

00:26:01.920 Hey, everybody.

00:26:02.500 It's me, Kathy Griffin.

00:26:03.700 I sincerely apologize.

00:26:05.700 I am just now seeing the reaction of these images.

00:26:08.740 I'm a comic.

00:26:09.780 I cross the line.

00:26:10.980 I move the line.

00:26:12.020 Then I cross it.

00:26:12.780 I went way too far.

00:26:14.340 The image is too disturbing.

00:26:16.140 I understand how it offends people.

00:26:18.440 It wasn't funny.

00:26:19.300 I get it.

00:26:20.220 I've made a lot of mistakes in my career.

00:26:21.940 I will continue.

00:26:22.780 I ask your forgiveness.

00:26:25.060 So that was comedian Kathy Griffin apologizing for her infamous photo shoot holding the decapitated

00:26:31.220 likeness of the guy in the White House.

00:26:32.980 She caused an uproar and made some powerful enemies. 0.61

00:26:36.320 But she's not really, you know, taking it very hard anymore.

00:26:41.160 She's telling us how tough things got and how she's going to, you know, come through it.

00:26:46.060 She's going to get back on the road and keep on rolling. 1.00

00:26:48.480 Please welcome back the fabulous Kathy Griffin.

00:26:50.920 Thank you, ladies.

00:26:52.640 Thank you.

00:26:53.240 Thank you.

00:26:53.900 Thank you.

00:26:54.880 Thank you.

00:26:55.460 Thank you.

00:26:56.140 By the way, I take the apology back.

00:27:03.800 Okay.

00:27:04.700 We're going to need to ding that bell if that happens again, Kathy. 0.84

00:27:07.720 The sons, Don Jr. and Eric, or as I called them, Eddie Munster and date rape.

00:27:11.680 Look, I'm not holding back on this family.

00:27:13.580 This president is different and I have been through the mill.

00:27:17.040 And so now I'm back on the road.

00:27:18.420 I sold out Carnegie Hall in less than 24 hours.

00:27:22.260 The fabulous Kathy Griffin.

00:27:24.440 There she is.

00:27:25.020 The fabulous Kathy Griffin.

00:27:26.860 And by the way, how do we know?

00:27:28.540 I knew from the minute she gave that apology that she wasn't really apologizing.

00:27:33.020 And it's because of her phrasing.

00:27:34.200 She said, I just saw the reaction to the photo.

00:27:36.860 And now I apologize.

00:27:39.000 Do you see that?

00:27:39.740 She's it's it's like people do this sometimes.

00:27:42.120 They'll say you'll they'll say something awful about you or insult you or something.

00:27:46.320 You say, how dare you?

00:27:46.980 And they say, oh, well, I'm sorry if you feel offended.

00:27:50.340 I'm sorry if I did this to you.

00:27:53.140 I'm sorry.

00:27:53.320 No, you say it's not about how I feel.

00:27:54.720 It's about what you did.

00:27:56.000 You can only apologize for what you did.

00:27:57.580 You can't apologize for how somebody reacts to that.

00:28:00.380 And that's what she did.

00:28:01.140 That's a big difference.

00:28:01.880 Roseanne said, I'm sorry.

00:28:03.140 The joke was bad and I'm sorry.

00:28:04.480 Kathy Griffin says, I'm sorry that people reacted that way.

00:28:08.500 I saw people reacted that way.

00:28:09.980 So now I'll apologize.

00:28:11.220 Right.

00:28:11.420 That's that's a huge difference here.

00:28:13.400 Same with Michelle Wolf. 0.98

00:28:15.140 Michelle Wolf attacked Sanders. 1.00

00:28:17.300 The press secretary, Sarah Sanders, viciously wasn't terribly funny, joked about her appearance 1.00

00:28:22.900 in person to her face.

00:28:24.700 The left defends both of them, both of them utterly unapologetic.

00:28:28.020 The left defends both of them, defends the jokes, defends the sets, defends making fun of

00:28:31.960 people's appearance.

00:28:32.980 And in the case of in the case of Kathy Griffin, holding up the bloody decapitated head of the 1.00

00:28:38.240 president gives a lot of appearance.

00:28:41.080 This is not to defend Roseanne's joke.

00:28:45.080 This is not to do that.

00:28:46.660 It is to defend apologies.

00:28:48.900 It's and it's to point out how disingenuous the left's alleged offense here is alleged outrage.

00:28:56.360 How do we know?

00:28:57.060 Just over the weekend, I tried not to read the news too much this weekend, but I couldn't

00:29:00.540 help with this one's the left exposed themselves for their feigned outrage.

00:29:04.820 It was over.

00:29:05.800 There were these photos that came out of immigrant children being held in custody, being in these

00:29:11.360 conditions where they're sleeping on the floor and they're behind bars and they're illegal

00:29:16.280 aliens who have come into America and they're being held in.

00:29:19.300 Everyone exploded with outrage.

00:29:21.080 John Favreau, former advisor to the president, excuse me, a former advisor to President Obama

00:29:25.500 said, quote, this is what is happening right now.

00:29:28.140 The only debate that matters is how we force our government to get these kids back to their 0.98

00:29:32.040 families as fast as humanly possible.

00:29:34.520 Jake Silverstein, the editor in chief of New York Times Magazine, editor in chief.

00:29:38.860 All of these photos are disturbing, but the first two are especially awful.

00:29:42.300 CNN reporter Hadassi Gold tweeted the photos.

00:29:45.180 And then but here's the main problem.

00:29:47.540 They weren't from the Trump administration.

00:29:49.840 Those are photos from four years ago.

00:29:52.580 Those photos were from 2014.

00:29:54.040 That's from the Obama administration.

00:29:55.200 You had a senior advisor to Barack Obama tweeting about how terribly the government was handling

00:30:00.280 immigration, how awful it was, how we have to force them to change. 1.00

00:30:03.140 It was his boss that was doing it.

00:30:05.160 It was his boss that was doing it.

00:30:07.300 Silverstein, the editor of New York Times Magazine.

00:30:09.340 How do these people become the editors of these magazines?

00:30:12.040 Editor of New York Times Magazine tweets the same thing.

00:30:14.760 CNN reporter tweets the same thing.

00:30:16.700 And then what did they all do?

00:30:17.900 They all deleted their tweets.

00:30:19.680 That's how you know it's fake.

00:30:20.980 Because if it were real, they would have left their tweets up and they would have turned on

00:30:24.220 Barack Obama.

00:30:25.240 It was so, how dare you? 0.99

00:30:26.180 What a terrible president you were.

00:30:27.420 But it's fake because they're hacks because it's just made up. 0.53

00:30:30.860 And it's to score political points when everything is going so well politically, economically,

00:30:35.540 as a matter of foreign policy.

00:30:36.800 On every front, things are going well in the country.

00:30:39.520 So they have to seize on these little, little moments and blow them up into something that

00:30:43.860 they're not.

00:30:44.760 CNN reporter Hadassi Gold, by the way, tweeted the photos.

00:30:47.340 Then she deleted them.

00:30:48.760 Then she defended deleting them.

00:30:50.060 She said, deleted the previous tweet because it gave the impression of recent photos.

00:30:53.400 They're from 2014.

00:30:55.280 Well, that's a quite a different tone from what you were saying before.

00:30:57.740 How awful.

00:30:58.440 Donald Trump, this is all right.

00:31:00.140 But no, I deleted them.

00:31:01.420 I just, no, I deleted them.

00:31:03.060 Just so I don't confuse you.

00:31:05.260 No, I don't think that's true.

00:31:06.400 I think you don't want egg on your face and you're unwilling to attack Obama for the same

00:31:10.240 things that you would attack Donald Trump.

00:31:11.500 Where's the outrage?

00:31:12.780 Where is the real outrage?

00:31:15.440 I don't know.

00:31:16.080 If the whole story were Roseanne tweeted this joke that made fun of Joy Reid's appearance 0.69

00:31:21.840 and it had a racial component and then ABC fired her, I would say, okay, that, I guess 1.00

00:31:26.720 that happens in America.

00:31:27.640 You compare a black person to Planet of the Apes, you're going to lose your job. 1.00

00:31:31.840 And you know, that's, that's the way it is. 0.94

00:31:33.380 But I can't believe it's, it's not disingenuous.

00:31:36.920 When I look at Michelle Wolf, Kathy Griffin, Joy Reid, all of those immigrant photos, it's 0.99

00:31:42.100 just too hard to believe.

00:31:43.540 Okay.

00:31:43.740 I got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube, but we have a great interview coming up from

00:31:48.760 Carol Markowitz, great New York post columnist has done excellent reporting on New York politics,

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00:31:57.720 Since I'm in New York, I thought it would be fun to delve into some of that, the home of

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00:32:05.980 We will get to all of that.

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00:33:09.820 Okay, scandalous bachelor party tales coming up.

00:33:24.220 Before we get to that, Carol Markowitz, New York Post columnist, great writer on New York

00:33:29.180 politics.

00:33:30.060 Let's talk, because I'm sick and tired of attacking the left nationally today.

00:33:34.560 I want to attack the left in New York specifically.

00:33:37.360 So I sat down before I left with Carol Markowitz.

00:33:40.060 Here's our interview.

00:33:41.200 Carol, thank you for being here.

00:33:42.960 Thanks so much for having me, Michael.

00:33:44.240 So as we speak right now, I am in New York.

00:33:48.820 You know.

00:33:49.140 Welcome.

00:33:49.600 Oh, thanks so much.

00:33:50.740 It's always good to be back in the city so nice they named it twice.

00:33:53.480 Love New York.

00:33:54.120 I'm from New York.

00:33:54.980 And I've noticed something about New York politics that is pretty strange.

00:34:01.380 It attracts the worst human beings on the face of the earth.

00:34:06.360 Anthony Weiner, Elliot Spitzer, Eric Schneiderman.

00:34:10.860 Those are just the big names that have recently come up.

00:34:14.080 The list goes on and on and on.

00:34:15.820 All those guys have one thing in common.

00:34:17.600 They've worked in New York politics. 0.88

00:34:19.720 What is it about New York that attracts these bizarre, callow, shallow, quasi-psychopaths? 0.63

00:34:28.300 Well, I think, I mean, my theory is it's because it's a one-party town.

00:34:31.780 It's so rare for Republicans to win most of these positions.

00:34:36.900 You know, once in a while we'll have a Republican mayor when things get really, really bad or governor.

00:34:41.340 But very rarely will we have city council or any other position held by a Republican.

00:34:46.820 So they live in this, like, insular world where their competition is only other Democrats and it's a real party machine.

00:34:55.080 And I think they just don't learn to compete fairly or nicely or, you know, to really be able to, they don't have to be good people.

00:35:05.820 They just have to spout the right politics.

00:35:07.960 So it's a disadvantage to them.

00:35:10.540 That is certainly true.

00:35:11.480 And I think that that's definitely part of it.

00:35:13.460 It reminds me of Chicago, you know, these other big cities, D.C., which just breeds this corruption.

00:35:19.680 But I have another theory on this, especially when you talk about the state politicians like Schneiderman or Elliot Spitzer, some of those other guys, Cuomo. 0.60

00:35:29.260 I'm not lumping him in quite there yet, but he is a bulldog of a man.

00:35:32.280 And my theory on this is that Albany is not a very pleasant city to live in.

00:35:39.060 Right, sure.

00:35:40.180 So you bring all of these guys.

00:35:42.520 They're very ambitious.

00:35:43.780 They're usually pretty smart.

00:35:45.620 They, you know, they really want to make it in politics.

00:35:47.920 They all want to be the president.

00:35:49.140 And then you send them up to this town in the middle of nowhere.

00:35:52.160 And it just, you know, it attracts this really bizarre kind of mentality.

00:35:57.620 That's my theory on, in particular, why New York calls.

00:36:00.980 That's pretty good.

00:36:02.260 Now, I want to talk about Eric Schneiderman in particular.

00:36:05.520 So he's the attorney general in New York.

00:36:08.580 Well, he was.

00:36:09.940 And he, Donald Trump, Nostradonald, as I've taken to calling him, predicted in 2013.

00:36:17.580 He said, Spitzer's gone.

00:36:19.360 Wiener's gone.

00:36:20.580 Mark my words, Schneiderman's going to be next.

00:36:23.240 He's worse than the other two.

00:36:24.320 So five years later, it comes out that this guy is non-consensually battering women.

00:36:30.400 He gets drunk. 0.99

00:36:31.260 He batters women during sex. 0.99

00:36:33.280 Multiple women came forward about this. 1.00

00:36:37.040 How many people knew that this was happening?

00:36:39.060 Who saw this brewing?

00:36:40.000 Because I don't think that Donald Trump actually sees the future.

00:36:42.440 I think this is just word on the street.

00:36:44.600 How many people knew about this?

00:36:45.780 How was it covered up so long?

00:36:47.980 That's really the amazing thing about this.

00:36:49.960 And I think it was also true with Spitzer and Wiener.

00:36:52.540 I think there were whispers for a long time about these men.

00:36:55.660 And no one cared.

00:36:56.620 And no one acted.

00:36:57.620 And in part, again, it comes back to they had the right politics.

00:37:01.180 And so even in the story where a woman was debating whether or not to come forward about

00:37:06.660 Schneiderman after he had beaten her. 0.67

00:37:09.220 And she was like, well, he has the right politics.

00:37:11.300 I don't know if I want to destroy his life.

00:37:13.160 And another woman had friends say to her, you know, don't do this to this guy. 0.85

00:37:17.260 This guy is on our side.

00:37:18.880 And, you know, we don't want to lose him politically.

00:37:21.840 So I think that it's definitely a whisper situation where people did know and no one cared because

00:37:29.700 they were doing the right political things for them.

00:37:31.800 And there's that just that machine.

00:37:33.980 I remember a New York assemblyman said that Albany is the most corrupt state capital in

00:37:39.020 the country.

00:37:39.960 I remember even in my own district where I grew up, the state senator, Vincent Leibel,

00:37:45.080 was he was a hero.

00:37:47.000 I mean, he was he did his job.

00:37:48.420 He brought money back to the district.

00:37:50.000 And he ended up getting booked by the FBI for corruption schemes and misusing money and

00:37:55.640 all of that.

00:37:56.340 It just was such a such a poisonous environment that people would cover up for everybody.

00:38:01.660 Yeah, everyone.

00:38:02.400 It was an open secret about who was corrupt, who was this, who was doing this to this person

00:38:07.340 in this way.

00:38:08.560 But you wouldn't talk about it because the machine protected itself.

00:38:12.840 Now I want to talk about this guy, Aaron Schlossberg.

00:38:16.260 He's that lawyer who was in a Manhattan deli and he yelled at a worker there for speaking

00:38:22.500 Spanish to customers.

00:38:23.620 Let's just cut to a quick little cut of that tape.

00:38:27.340 Clients say your staff is speaking Spanish to customers when they should be speaking

00:38:31.220 very violent.

00:38:32.120 I mean, sometimes they do.

00:38:33.540 Like he is.

00:38:34.620 Every person I listen to.

00:38:36.060 He's spoken.

00:38:36.840 He's spoken.

00:38:37.620 She's speaking.

00:38:38.500 It's America.

00:38:39.760 They, you're, you're.

00:38:40.840 Yeah.

00:38:41.660 He is America. 1.00

00:38:43.180 He's very ignorant. 1.00

00:38:46.600 He's very ignorant. 1.00

00:38:48.340 And he shouldn't be allowed to. 1.00

00:38:49.900 I will be following up.

00:38:51.120 And my guess is they're not documented.

00:38:52.680 So my next call is to ICE to have each one of them get out of my country.

00:38:56.140 If they have the vote to come here and live off of my money, I pay for their welfare.

00:39:00.560 I pay for their ability to be here.

00:39:01.900 The least they can do, the least they can do. 1.00

00:39:04.860 Their welfare is such an ignorant. 0.97

00:39:07.280 Running a place in Midtown Manhattan, your staff should be speaking English. 0.99

00:39:10.660 Not funny.

00:39:11.060 Because of people like you, our nation.

00:39:13.160 Honey, I'm calling ICE.

00:39:14.480 Call ICE.

00:39:16.080 So that they can see.

00:39:16.960 Maybe you shouldn't eat that sandwich today.

00:39:18.880 Take a break from the food. 1.00

00:39:20.040 Maybe you should get hit by a car, you piece of. 1.00

00:39:21.860 So you see Schlossberg here. 1.00

00:39:24.480 And I have to say, the guy seems a little unhinged in the video.

00:39:28.280 He's not being terribly charitable.

00:39:30.480 But I'll put myself out on a limb and defend the sentiment here, which is that in America,

00:39:37.360 people should speak English.

00:39:38.900 And further the sentiment that assimilation is hard in the best of circumstances.

00:39:43.880 But when you have a huge illegal immigration problem, when you have a mass immigration for

00:39:49.580 decades from only certain places of the world, but not from other places of the world, cultural

00:39:54.700 assimilation is nearly impossible.

00:39:57.300 And so I think he actually is expressing a cultural frustration that is perfectly legitimate. 0.90

00:40:02.320 He's not doing it in a charitable way.

00:40:04.080 Of course, one doesn't know if the people he was talking about are illegal aliens.

00:40:09.600 Now, statistically speaking, a lot of them are illegal aliens.

00:40:12.380 A lot of people in the restaurant industries, industries that can be paid off the books.

00:40:17.840 That's not to undercut that suggestion.

00:40:20.060 Still, not a very charitable way to put it. 0.87

00:40:22.740 The guy should get smacked around a little bit for it.

00:40:24.800 You shouldn't behave that way in public.

00:40:26.700 Now, you wrote about this.

00:40:27.980 You wrote a very good piece on it.

00:40:29.040 He got his public comeuppance, you know, this guy's got a temper and he's been a loose

00:40:34.040 cannon for a long time.

00:40:35.680 But now it's become a free speech issue.

00:40:39.040 The Bronx borough president, Ruben Diaz Jr., is saying he should lose his law license.

00:40:43.800 Where is this going to go?

00:40:45.000 What does this mean for New York politics?

00:40:47.080 Right.

00:40:47.420 I mean, first of all, I'm an immigrant and I've always been very pro speaking English.

00:40:52.320 I think it's better for immigrants.

00:40:54.260 But I have to say, you know, there's also definitely the sense of stay out of my business.

00:40:59.100 If I think I can do business better in Spanish or Russian or Hebrew or any other language,

00:41:03.620 it's not not your problem.

00:41:05.400 And I think this guy really, you know, way overstepped.

00:41:09.040 And even if he was just again, take out the race angle from it. 0.99

00:41:13.300 He was just being a jerk to minimum wage employees. 0.99

00:41:15.880 And that's not cool. 0.99

00:41:16.880 And so if he gets punished by his community, if his like the place he rents his office from

00:41:23.360 no longer wants him there, if his friends get mad at him, if his neighbors don't like him,

00:41:28.740 that's all fine and good.

00:41:30.200 And I think that, you know, like the New Yorkers are protesting outside his house with a mariachi

00:41:34.260 band.

00:41:34.820 Fine.

00:41:35.320 All of that.

00:41:36.480 They have a real sense of humor in New York, you know, so you get things like that.

00:41:40.240 So that's all fine.

00:41:43.340 But now politicians are targeting his law license.

00:41:46.580 And the thing is, if you or I wrote to the board and said, I think he should lose his

00:41:51.420 law license over this, we would just be citizens writing to a committee that oversees this.

00:41:57.860 But politicians writing to that committee is very different.

00:42:00.520 And it's a it's a real case of punishing him for speech they don't like speech.

00:42:05.380 Again, I also don't like it's not about liking or not liking.

00:42:08.560 It's about shutting it down or the government specifically punishing somebody for speech.

00:42:14.080 And it really oversteps.

00:42:16.060 And I think that it's a violation of his First Amendment rights to have these politicians

00:42:20.040 try to strip him of his law license for words they don't like.

00:42:23.400 Absolutely.

00:42:24.020 And there is a broader free speech crisis in the country.

00:42:27.020 You see people shouting down or disinviting conservative speakers.

00:42:30.780 I was just at a dinner in New York not too long ago called the Disinvitation Dinner

00:42:34.420 for the Bill Buckley program, where every year they take a speaker who is disinvited from

00:42:39.560 a college campus and they have him come and give a speech.

00:42:42.580 And you see this all over the place.

00:42:44.880 You know, Ben Shapiro has they have to like, you know, take out six hundred thousand dollars

00:42:50.300 worth of security to protect against a five foot.

00:42:52.880 Very dangerous.

00:42:53.820 Oh, he's very dangerous.

00:42:54.820 I don't know if you've ever met him in person.

00:42:56.440 He's a five foot nine Orthodox Jew who's relatively polite, mild mannered.

00:43:01.060 He's very intimidating.

00:43:03.060 And so you see this this crisis brewing.

00:43:06.340 But people, they don't seem to understand there are different levels.

00:43:10.040 There are different issues being discussed.

00:43:11.860 What private people can say to private people, what private organizations or businesses can

00:43:16.520 say to one another and what politicians who have the public trust are allowed to say

00:43:22.080 about free speech and what speech they can limit.

00:43:24.540 Do you see this problem getting better in the near future or only getting worse, both in

00:43:30.040 New York and nationally?

00:43:31.620 Well, part of the problem is that we just don't teach any kind of historical or, you

00:43:36.700 know, we don't teach the amendments.

00:43:38.140 The people graduate thinking that it's a violation of their First Amendment rights if they can't

00:43:43.600 yell at work.

00:43:44.480 For example, the whole kneeling thing, you know, in the NFL, the NFL says you can't do

00:43:50.060 it.

00:43:50.340 It's not a violation of your First Amendment rights.

00:43:52.620 Go ahead and kneel any other time other than when you're at your job.

00:43:56.480 Um, so I think that people really just don't understand the distinction.

00:44:00.100 And what happens is, uh, these, when these politicians do overstep like this, nobody realizes

00:44:06.060 this is different.

00:44:07.320 This isn't just protesting outside of a place that you don't like, or that is doing something

00:44:11.460 that you're, um, unhappy about.

00:44:13.540 This is a politician stepping in and telling, say a business, stop this kind of speech.

00:44:18.680 Stop, um, allowing these speakers to, uh, you know, to speak at your place of business.

00:44:24.160 That's absolutely right.

00:44:25.320 And, and it's even just, we know this is true practically because most of what Ben does at

00:44:31.080 my place of work is yell and scream at me.

00:44:33.840 So if you weren't allowed to do that, I don't know, that means the boss couldn't even come

00:44:37.280 into his own office.

00:44:38.200 Doesn't make any sense.

00:44:39.300 Uh, really, really interesting stuff.

00:44:41.260 And a lot of times people don't, all we want to do is talk about the really glamorous

00:44:45.240 sort of issues, the really national ones that splash on the news.

00:44:48.960 But all of politics happens at the local and state level, all the really interesting stuff.

00:44:53.720 And a lot of, of what really matters.

00:44:55.760 So, uh, really good points.

00:44:57.640 I, uh, I look forward to, uh, reading even more about this case.

00:45:00.960 And it's so, it's so important to, uh, cover, you know, Schneiderman, Wiener, Spitzer.

00:45:06.900 Those are the guys who are, uh, you know, affecting politics just below the surface, just below

00:45:12.540 where the cameras are, uh, are always focused.

00:45:15.220 So really good stuff.

00:45:15.920 Carol, thank you so much for being here.

00:45:17.920 Thank you so much.

00:45:18.300 I hope, thank you.

00:45:19.160 I hope that the machine in Albany doesn't off me before I make it back to LA, but it,

00:45:23.860 it, in any case, the conversation was worth it nonetheless.

00:45:27.480 That's right.

00:45:28.100 You're always welcome in Brooklyn.

00:45:31.200 So speaking of just below the surface, I guess I, I got to say something about the bachelor

00:45:36.140 party because the bachelor party actually made me realize something very important, which

00:45:41.080 is that I really, really, really want to get married.

00:45:43.480 It made me realize that.

00:45:45.220 And I think this is actually the purpose of bachelor parties.

00:45:48.360 So the bachelor party exists to just cause mayhem and chaos and degeneracy and dereliction

00:45:56.440 of duty.

00:45:57.100 And you go out and you drink too much and you smoke Cuban cigars and you go gambling in Atlantic

00:46:01.360 City.

00:46:01.820 Maybe I'm just talking about my bachelor party.

00:46:03.480 You eat too much steak.

00:46:04.560 You only consume red meat. 1.00

00:46:05.920 You feel like a disgusting, filthy, masculine animal for a day or a couple of days. 0.97

00:46:12.100 Because the purpose of this is to remind you that being a single man, isn't that great? 0.98

00:46:17.600 Like it is really fun for about five seconds, but then like all sinful things, you just get

00:46:23.480 disgusted by it and exhausted with it.

00:46:25.780 So we had a really good time.

00:46:28.040 A bunch of my pals, we went out in Manhattan and then we went down to Atlantic city, uh,

00:46:32.760 which, you know, that's like the New Jersey of New Jersey.

00:46:35.120 I mean, this place is, uh, uh, not, not what it was ever supposed to be and certainly not

00:46:40.120 what it used to be.

00:46:41.180 So, uh, we went down there.

00:46:42.520 We had a really good time. 1.00

00:46:43.340 It was great to hang out with men, but men are disgusting animals. 0.99

00:46:46.820 And it really reminded me of the complimentarity of the sexes, how important it is to, uh, to 0.99

00:46:51.860 find that lady and move on in your life.

00:46:53.760 Because listen, high school is a lot of fun.

00:46:56.080 I had a good time in high school.

00:46:57.400 College is a lot of fun.

00:46:58.440 I had a great time in college.

00:47:00.160 Your twenties are a lot of fun being, I was living in New York, then living out in LA.

00:47:05.420 That's super fun.

00:47:06.500 That's really good.

00:47:07.040 But you can't live there forever.

00:47:08.460 If you live there forever, you're going to become an overgrown child.

00:47:10.820 So you got to keep moving on.

00:47:12.220 Maybe that means, maybe that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get married.

00:47:15.960 Sometimes it's hard to find people in our swipe right culture, but it means moving on

00:47:19.480 and doing something new, progressing forward, uh, building new relationships, uh, interpersonal

00:47:24.740 friendship, uh, or romantic relationships, going somewhere in your career, reading new books,

00:47:30.900 challenging yourself to move forward.

00:47:32.520 Because if you don't do that, if you want to be stuck, uh, and keep just having too much

00:47:37.100 fun, you're going to be an adolescence forever.

00:47:38.840 And you're going to wind up in a hotel room in Atlantic city with too many Cuban cigars 1.00

00:47:43.120 and too much whiskey and, you know, leftovers of steak all around you and a bunch of smelly

00:47:48.460 men.

00:47:48.960 Nobody wants that forever.

00:47:50.360 You can only hang out with your pals for so long.

00:47:52.220 So it was really good.

00:47:53.060 I really defend the ritual of the bachelor party party.

00:47:56.700 And I'm glad, I'm glad I had one and I'm glad it's over, uh, before I go, it's no longer

00:48:03.280 Memorial day.

00:48:04.100 It's Tuesday, but we did have Memorial day and, uh, we didn't broadcast on there.

00:48:08.340 So I do just want to, uh, remind everybody that freedom isn't free.

00:48:13.100 And of course we owe so many of our freedoms and what we enjoy in this country and our life

00:48:18.700 here and our ability to pursue happiness here.

00:48:20.680 We owe that to the real heroes, the men and women who die serving their country, who give

00:48:25.900 their lives for our freedom.

00:48:27.460 There's a classic expression, dolce et decorum est pro patria mori.

00:48:31.740 It is sweet and fitting to die for your country, sweet and seemly to die for your country.

00:48:38.800 And in this culture, we lose sight of that a lot.

00:48:42.560 We, some people confuse Memorial day and veterans day.

00:48:44.820 They're different days.

00:48:45.860 Veterans are the people who fought Memorial days for the people who died, who gave their

00:48:49.780 lives for the country.

00:48:50.660 And in a culture that's materialistic and that is self hating, like America is today.

00:48:56.060 And like the West is today, we hate ourselves.

00:48:58.480 We hate our founders.

00:48:59.740 We hate the, the religion that, that gave us the culture that gave us our politics. 1.00

00:49:06.060 Since we hate all of that, then it doesn't make any sense to die for your country.

00:49:09.620 And it's a strange day in America.

00:49:11.780 It's a, it's a day that doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:49:14.440 If you live in a, in this very modern, uh, materialistic, atheistic, uh, culture that

00:49:21.320 we have, fortunately, mostly on the right, there is a patriotic culture that's been preserved

00:49:27.340 and a sense that this life is in everything, that there are things more important than just

00:49:32.160 going around and continuing to live, that there are noble causes worth giving your life

00:49:36.300 for, you know, if, uh, life is so, whoever thought that life is so dear and peace, so

00:49:40.900 sweet as to be purchased at the hands of chains and slavery.

00:49:44.380 That's what Ronald Reagan asked in his time for choosing speech.

00:49:47.940 Some things in life are worth dying for.

00:49:49.960 I'm glad that I haven't had to do that.

00:49:51.760 I'm very glad that, uh, greater men did that for me.

00:49:54.940 And we should all take a moment to remember that and to think about how, what Memorial

00:49:59.400 Day means in, in this kind of culture.

00:50:01.240 And maybe Memorial Day is a guidepost for us to try to turn that culture back to something 0.97

00:50:06.380 that makes a little bit more sense and helps us make sense of our freedom and the men and

00:50:09.960 women who have died to preserve that freedom for us.

00:50:12.640 Okay.

00:50:13.520 That's quite a gamut today.

00:50:14.880 Talking about bad jokes, you know, canceling sitcoms, bachelor parties, and Dolce de Coro

00:50:22.360 Meste.

00:50:23.160 Uh, that's our show.

00:50:23.900 I'll be back tomorrow.

00:50:24.760 And then folks, I'm going away to get married and go to a beach somewhere.

00:50:27.580 So unless ABC cancels my show, I'll be back after that.

00:50:30.940 Get your mailbag questions.

00:50:31.920 And I want to take some tomorrow in the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:50:34.500 This is the Michael Knowles show.

00:50:35.680 I'll talk to you soon.

The Michael Knowles Show - May 29, 2018

Ep. 163 - Bad Jokes： Roseanne And The Left’s Fake Outrage

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