The Michael Knowles Show - December 05, 2024


Ep. 1630 - The Supreme Court Transgenderism Case EXPLAINED


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

166.02094

Word Count

7,856

Sentence Count

514

Misogynist Sentences

27

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments yesterday in a monumental case that might uphold the right of states to ban transing kids in Tennessee. And the arguments were not only disastrous for the pro-trans side, they were also just generally hilarious.


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00:00:54.020 The Supreme Court heard oral arguments yesterday in a monumental case that might uphold the right
00:01:00.000 of states to ban transing kids.
00:01:03.420 And the arguments were not only disastrous for the pro-trans side, they were also just generally
00:01:09.760 hilarious.
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00:02:10.020 The Associated Press, The Washington Post, pretty much everyone, including in the liberal
00:02:16.140 media establishment, admit the Supreme Court is likely, based on oral arguments, to uphold
00:02:23.100 the Tennessee law that bans transing kids.
00:02:28.600 Now, this Tennessee law came about in part because the Daily Wire, specifically our pal
00:02:33.600 Matt Walsh, put up a Twitter thread, just a modest Twitter thread talking about something
00:02:38.500 that people in Tennessee knew about, but a lot of other people didn't know about, namely
00:02:42.380 that Vanderbilt Children's Hospital was transing kids.
00:02:46.140 So that was it.
00:02:46.640 One little tweet.
00:02:48.300 One little series of tweets.
00:02:49.480 And then the state legislature got involved.
00:02:52.400 And then the Attorney General, Jonathan Scrimetti of Tennessee, got involved.
00:02:56.800 Then this case went all the way up to the Supreme Court.
00:03:00.580 Oral arguments were heard yesterday.
00:03:02.340 The U.S. solicitor general who was suing Scrimetti, Scrimetti, the Tennessee Attorney General, her
00:03:11.000 name is Elizabeth Preligar.
00:03:12.380 There were other lawyers in this case, one of them being a trans-identifying lawyer herself.
00:03:19.580 She's a woman who thinks that her name, that she thinks that she's a man, and her name is Chase
00:03:25.100 Strangio, the first ever trans-identifying lawyer to argue a case before the Supreme Court
00:03:31.200 has the last name Strangio.
00:03:33.680 If you ever doubt providence, if you ever doubt the existence and mirth of God, just listen to
00:03:39.300 these things.
00:03:40.300 So what were the big takeaways?
00:03:42.620 I mean, these oral arguments went on for over two hours.
00:03:45.340 I have the highlights, and there were some real highlights.
00:03:48.860 I think that the federal government's case here was weak as could possibly be.
00:03:55.460 Justice Alito begins with a little bit of a grilling, because the federal government argues
00:04:01.340 these treatments, so-called, namely gelding little kids, are medically necessary treatments
00:04:07.020 in order to prevent depression and anxiety and suicide among supposedly trans kids.
00:04:13.480 And this is the medical consensus, and these backward hillbillies in Tennessee,
00:04:18.860 are trying to deny people necessary medical treatments.
00:04:21.600 So Justice Alito had this question for the council.
00:04:26.900 Can I ask you a question about the state of medical evidence at the present time?
00:04:33.180 In your petition, you made a sweeping statement, which I will quote,
00:04:38.660 overwhelming evidence establishes that the appropriate gender-affirming treatment with puberty blockers
00:04:44.880 and hormones directly and substantially improves the physical, psychological well-being of transgender
00:04:51.400 adolescents with gender dysphoria.
00:04:54.540 That was in November 2023.
00:04:57.280 Now, even before then, the Swedish National Board of Health and Welfare wrote the following.
00:05:04.680 They currently assess, quote, that the risks of puberty blockers and gender-affirming treatment
00:05:11.080 are likely to outweigh the expected benefits of these treatments, which is directly contrary
00:05:17.420 to the sweeping statement in your petition.
00:05:19.880 After the filing of your petition, of course, we saw the release of the Cass report in the United Kingdom,
00:05:30.780 which found a complete lack of high-quality evidence showing that the benefits of the treatments in question here
00:05:39.380 outweigh the risks.
00:05:41.740 And so I wonder if you would like to stand by the statement that you made in your petition,
00:05:49.640 or if you think it would now be appropriate to modify that and withdraw the statement that there is overwhelming evidence
00:05:57.720 establishing that these treatments have benefits that greatly outweigh the risks and the dangers.
00:06:04.480 I, of course, acknowledge, Justice Alito, that there is a lot of debate happening here and abroad
00:06:10.240 about the proper model of delivery of this care and exactly when adolescents should receive it
00:06:15.300 and how to identify the adolescents for whom it would be helpful.
00:06:18.400 But I stand by that there is a consensus that these treatments can be medically necessary for some adolescents.
00:06:24.860 Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:06:26.800 These treatments can be medically necessary.
00:06:29.960 Even that is bogus.
00:06:31.620 But you just changed your view, Solicitor General, from the overwhelming consensus of all the genius scientists,
00:06:39.600 the medical community says that these are medically necessary treatments to, well, I don't know,
00:06:45.220 maybe sometimes it's not horrible.
00:06:48.140 That's your weakening of your position.
00:06:51.660 Alito just totally destroys the scientific premise behind the case.
00:06:56.140 And he does it in this beautiful way.
00:07:00.600 I just, I love Alito.
00:07:02.240 The guy is absolutely rock solid and clever and funny in his own dry way.
00:07:07.200 He says, you know, counsel, you begin by saying that the overwhelming evidence suggests that transing the kids is good.
00:07:16.140 However, all of the best evidence says it's terrible.
00:07:19.660 Do you want to, do you maybe want to withdraw the chief medical claim in your case?
00:07:25.860 Well, I recognize that it's controversial, Justice Alito.
00:07:29.140 No, no, no, hold on.
00:07:29.700 Wait, did you not hear what the justice just said?
00:07:32.120 It's actually not controversial.
00:07:34.880 All of the best evidence that we have that has been gathered on this topic,
00:07:39.960 all of the highest quality evidence we have on transiting the kids is that it doesn't help anybody.
00:07:45.200 So it's really not all that controversial.
00:07:47.180 Everything we know about it is that transing the kids is bad.
00:07:52.000 So right off the top there, Alito just guts the government's case from a scientific perspective.
00:07:57.360 Then the SG goes away and we get the trans identifying lawyer who goes by the name Chase Strangio.
00:08:04.320 I don't know what Miss Strangio's real first name is, but she is a lawyer for the ACLU.
00:08:11.480 And she gets up there to make history as the first trans identifying lawyer to argue before the Supreme Court.
00:08:18.160 And here's what Chief Justice Roberts asks her.
00:08:21.340 Counsel, is there any significant respect in which your position departs from that of the Solicitor General?
00:08:28.380 No, Your Honor.
00:08:29.180 I love it.
00:08:31.080 You can basically stop listening right there.
00:08:33.500 Because you say, okay, why after the Solicitor General made the best case she could for a completely indefensible action,
00:08:43.160 namely gelding little children in the name of a bunch of perverts, sick fantasies and ideologies,
00:08:48.620 right after the SG does her best, which was a total failure,
00:08:52.060 now you've got the trans identifying lawyer coming up to make history.
00:08:55.080 And Chief Justice Roberts asks, hey, hey, lawyer, is there anything new that you have to add to these discussions?
00:09:03.600 And the trans identifying lawyer says, no, not really.
00:09:06.700 I just want to talk at the Supreme Court.
00:09:08.660 Like, okay, well, now it was good, I think, that this trans identifying lawyer spoke at the Supreme Court
00:09:15.280 because she was manifestly unqualified to do so.
00:09:18.460 And having such a profound defect of perception that she thinks she's the opposite sex,
00:09:23.360 probably should not practice law.
00:09:25.080 However, she kept speaking, and Justice Alito asked a perspicacious question to cut through the heart of her argument.
00:09:34.940 Are there individuals who are born male, assigned male at birth,
00:09:42.740 who at one point identify as female, but then later come to identify as male?
00:09:51.700 And likewise for individuals who are assigned female at birth, at some point identify as female,
00:10:00.200 I'm sorry, identify as male, but later come to identify as female?
00:10:06.120 Are there not such people?
00:10:07.700 There are such people. I agree with that, Justice.
00:10:09.240 So it's not an immutable characteristic, is it?
00:10:11.760 Well, I think people's understanding of it shifts,
00:10:14.700 but the evidence shows that there is at least a strong underlying basis.
00:10:17.640 I think Alito is just so smart.
00:10:20.060 Sorry, I just smacked my little Michael Christmas ornament here that the producers put on my lamp.
00:10:24.980 Alito is so smart because he says, hold on, are there people who, they're boys,
00:10:33.340 but then they say that they're girls, but then later on they say that they're boys, or vice versa?
00:10:38.900 In other words, does the trans identity transition for some people over time?
00:10:45.880 And the lawyer has to say yes, because the premise of transgender ideology is that gender isn't really fixed, man.
00:10:54.160 It's fluid, and it goes back and forth.
00:10:56.020 And one day, one morning you could wake up and you're a boy, and the next morning you're a girl,
00:11:00.280 and 50 times during the course of the day you go back and forth.
00:11:03.280 Okay, so then transgenderism is not an immutable characteristic.
00:11:08.920 If transgenderism were an immutable characteristic,
00:11:11.840 there might be some really strong anti-discrimination case here.
00:11:16.380 If the law said we're not going to permit black people to do something,
00:11:21.600 if the law said we're not willing to permit women to do something for that matter,
00:11:25.860 that even though gender remains in flux, you might say, okay,
00:11:28.300 well, they're attacking immutable characteristics.
00:11:30.280 Even these days you would say if the government discriminates against gay people,
00:11:34.940 because now homosexual tendencies are considered to be immutable.
00:11:38.860 Okay, but here the gender ideology itself by definition has to be fluid.
00:11:45.780 It has to be transitory.
00:11:47.040 So he says, okay, it's not immutable then.
00:11:50.020 So it's not really a matter of discrimination.
00:11:53.260 And then Justice Thomas comes in.
00:11:56.120 After all these jabs, Justice Thomas comes in with the right hook.
00:11:59.140 If you are successful, what would your remedy be?
00:12:05.020 Your Honor, if we're successful here,
00:12:07.660 the remedy would be to enjoin the state of Tennessee defendants
00:12:12.080 from enforcing SB1 as applied to our individual plaintiffs.
00:12:17.140 So in practical terms, what would it be?
00:12:21.940 What would you get?
00:12:23.180 Wouldn't you get the, you would get different treatment based on sex?
00:12:30.140 So many people missed this part of the argument,
00:12:32.620 because the way that Justice Thomas speaks is kind of slow and quiet and unassuming
00:12:38.240 and not very provocative.
00:12:39.420 But this was a brilliant, brilliant piece of argumentation here,
00:12:43.960 or rather of argumentation disguised as questioning
00:12:47.160 that the federal government side had absolutely no answer to.
00:12:53.200 Mr. Strangeo had no answer to.
00:12:55.480 The argument is from the government that boys need,
00:13:01.940 boys who think they're girls need estrogen treatment.
00:13:04.720 I'm oversimplifying, but only barely.
00:13:06.920 Boys who want to be girls need estrogen treatment.
00:13:09.600 Girls who want to be boys need testosterone treatment.
00:13:12.960 And it is a discrimination on the basis of sex and gender identity
00:13:17.980 to deny them that treatment.
00:13:21.100 But if a boy went to the doctor at age 12 or whatever,
00:13:27.020 and said, doc, I want some testosterone.
00:13:30.600 If a boy wanted the testosterone treatment, not a girl wanting the testosterone,
00:13:33.460 but if a boy wanted it, he would not be given that treatment
00:13:36.240 because it wouldn't fit this criterion of gender dysphoria.
00:13:40.980 Same with the girl.
00:13:41.840 If the girl went to the doctor to say, I want some estrogen,
00:13:44.640 the doctor would say no.
00:13:46.840 The treatment would only pertain to people who want to pretend to be the opposite sex,
00:13:51.880 which means that it's discrimination on the basis of sex.
00:13:56.360 It's a little bit dizzying, but the whole gender ideology is disorienting
00:14:01.840 because the whole thing is a nonsense.
00:14:03.180 So sometimes it's difficult to track the argument that the pro-trans people are making.
00:14:07.120 But Justice Thomas does it very well,
00:14:08.720 and he allows them to fall into the trap that they have set for themselves.
00:14:14.020 Absolute routing of the trans ideology at the Supreme Court.
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00:15:30.180 The conservative justice has knocked it out of the ballpark.
00:15:35.160 Sotomayor does her best, the leftist justice, Sonia Sotomayor, does her best
00:15:39.260 to try to trip up the Tennessee Solicitor General arguing against transing the kids,
00:15:46.500 arguing in favor of the law banning transing the kids.
00:15:49.120 And here is the best argument that Sotomayor could muster.
00:15:53.300 Cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners.
00:15:56.080 So it becomes a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk.
00:16:01.640 And the question of how many minors have to have their bodies irreparably harmed
00:16:06.380 for unproven benefits is one that is best left.
00:16:09.540 I'm sorry, Counselor.
00:16:11.440 Every medical treatment has a risk.
00:16:15.360 Even taking aspirin.
00:16:18.200 There is always going to be a percentage of the population
00:16:22.480 under any medical treatment that's going to suffer.
00:16:25.040 I'm sorry, Counsel.
00:16:27.640 I have to interrupt here.
00:16:30.660 Do you not understand that gelding a little child,
00:16:36.440 permanently sterilizing a child,
00:16:38.900 turning a kid into a eunuch starting at age 11,
00:16:42.320 and giving them bone problems,
00:16:44.580 and failing to ameliorate,
00:16:46.900 and perhaps even exacerbating the child's anxiety,
00:16:49.820 depression, and likelihood of suicide is similar to taking an aspirin.
00:16:58.020 How do you not understand that, Counsel?
00:17:00.960 This is the best they got.
00:17:02.100 I think this woman went to Yale Law School.
00:17:04.140 I think she did, didn't it, Sotomayor?
00:17:07.020 That is weak sauce.
00:17:08.660 And don't even get me started on Ketanji Jackson,
00:17:11.060 the most recent leftist justice,
00:17:12.800 who boasts two degrees from Harvard,
00:17:15.000 and yet who, during her confirmation hearings,
00:17:17.820 couldn't say what a woman is.
00:17:19.340 When she was asked by Marsha Blackburn,
00:17:21.680 what is a woman,
00:17:22.740 she said, well, I'm not a biologist.
00:17:26.240 You know, I'm not a weatherman,
00:17:27.480 but I know which way the wind's blowing, okay?
00:17:30.040 You shouldn't really need all that specialized training
00:17:32.500 to know what a woman is.
00:17:34.040 But this is what really cuts to the heart of this case.
00:17:37.380 The oral arguments went very well for the conservatives,
00:17:39.800 but the whole thing really seems like a charade to me,
00:17:43.480 because there are certain matters
00:17:46.380 for which argumentation and the presentation of evidence
00:17:51.860 and persuasive rhetoric
00:17:54.000 really conduce to get you to a certain conclusion.
00:17:59.000 What is a woman,
00:18:00.060 which is really what this case is about,
00:18:01.440 what is a woman is not one of those questions.
00:18:04.300 What is a woman is a question
00:18:06.800 that actually precedes argument.
00:18:09.800 What is a woman is a question
00:18:12.840 that really is closer to a premise,
00:18:15.960 or the answer to which is really closer
00:18:17.520 to a premise than a conclusion.
00:18:19.880 It's closer to a first principle
00:18:21.540 than something that we deduce
00:18:23.180 using our rational faculties.
00:18:25.220 Sometimes people will say,
00:18:26.420 well, a woman is an adult human female,
00:18:28.620 you know, and give you a knowing, wry wink.
00:18:31.080 But that answer is unsatisfactory.
00:18:33.460 The real answer is,
00:18:34.380 a woman is the kind of person
00:18:36.200 who isn't a man.
00:18:37.880 You know, the real answer is,
00:18:39.480 shut up, you know what a woman is.
00:18:41.800 That's actually the answer.
00:18:44.480 We have to begin.
00:18:46.120 It's the sort of thing
00:18:47.460 that Supreme Court oral arguments
00:18:49.440 and deliberations need to just presume.
00:18:52.140 And I'll show you why.
00:18:53.100 In the transcript,
00:18:54.360 obviously I listened to much of this oral argument,
00:18:57.240 but the way that I found the really juicy parts
00:18:59.460 was I read through the transcript.
00:19:00.880 And in the transcript,
00:19:02.700 this person,
00:19:04.460 this trans-identifying lawyer,
00:19:05.700 who's a woman who pretends to be a man,
00:19:07.300 is referred to as Mr. Strangio.
00:19:09.440 That's a problem.
00:19:10.940 That means that the Supreme Court
00:19:12.340 is beginning by accepting the premise
00:19:15.060 that a man can be a woman
00:19:16.500 and a woman can be a man.
00:19:17.900 But that's really the matter
00:19:18.920 that's being debated.
00:19:20.300 Ultimately here,
00:19:21.640 everyone's pretending
00:19:22.560 that that's not the matter
00:19:23.480 that's being debated
00:19:24.160 because Tennessee is trying
00:19:25.540 to narrowly define this
00:19:26.760 as a matter of only transing the kids
00:19:29.420 and the federal government
00:19:31.140 is trying to define this
00:19:33.340 also somewhat narrowly
00:19:34.740 as a medical matter
00:19:35.900 and as a matter of anti-discrimination.
00:19:38.200 But what we're not talking about
00:19:40.880 is the giant elephant in the room,
00:19:42.360 which is the absurd premise
00:19:44.320 that a man can become a woman
00:19:46.040 and a woman can become a man.
00:19:47.880 And unfortunately,
00:19:48.620 the Supreme Court
00:19:49.120 is just presuming that.
00:19:50.180 By referring to this woman
00:19:51.320 as Mr. Strangio,
00:19:53.580 you're accepting that.
00:19:54.440 By using the preferred pronouns
00:19:56.160 of deluded people,
00:19:57.540 you are implicitly accepting
00:19:59.440 transgender ideology.
00:20:00.940 Even by using phrases
00:20:01.980 like biological man
00:20:03.820 or biological woman,
00:20:05.020 you are implicitly accepting
00:20:06.380 that there's some other kind of man
00:20:07.660 or some other kind of woman.
00:20:08.460 You're implicitly acceding
00:20:10.160 to transgenderism.
00:20:11.780 And that's a big, big problem.
00:20:13.400 So look, we're called to be
00:20:15.100 wise as serpents
00:20:16.080 and innocent as doves.
00:20:17.120 I think the justices,
00:20:18.500 the conservative justices
00:20:19.340 did a really good job here.
00:20:21.040 I think even the liberal media
00:20:22.320 are going to give up
00:20:23.000 on this case probably.
00:20:24.140 It's just the notion that
00:20:26.140 gelding children
00:20:28.060 is somehow a constitutional right
00:20:30.300 and states don't have a right
00:20:31.400 to pass laws against it.
00:20:32.540 I think it's too far
00:20:33.860 even for our lunatics
00:20:34.940 and perverts
00:20:35.540 who run our country today.
00:20:37.320 But this is bad
00:20:40.180 that we even have to debate this.
00:20:41.740 And it's really bad
00:20:42.420 that we are debating this
00:20:43.180 on terms that are favorable too,
00:20:45.780 that are implicitly accepting
00:20:47.060 the premises of transgenderism.
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00:22:04.860 You know,
00:22:05.360 I have this series,
00:22:06.300 a little side hustle
00:22:07.080 called Michael And,
00:22:08.080 where I sit down
00:22:08.740 for long conversations
00:22:10.100 and the episodes
00:22:12.000 have millions and millions
00:22:12.800 of views.
00:22:13.220 People seem interested in them
00:22:14.260 because they're not
00:22:15.020 just really news of the day.
00:22:16.160 They're delving into
00:22:17.200 far deeper matters.
00:22:18.940 Well,
00:22:19.200 in one of the most popular
00:22:20.100 episodes we've ever done,
00:22:21.120 I sat down with Blake Healy,
00:22:22.580 who is the author
00:22:23.380 of a best-selling book,
00:22:24.540 The Veil,
00:22:25.280 who claims to be able
00:22:26.500 to see things
00:22:27.380 in the spiritual world,
00:22:28.880 including angels and demons.
00:22:31.020 Here is what he had to say.
00:22:33.760 I'd see angels and demons
00:22:35.320 in about equal measure.
00:22:36.760 There was this sense
00:22:37.320 of separation.
00:22:38.640 And even though I could
00:22:39.260 identify how that's something
00:22:40.200 that might be scary,
00:22:41.360 there wasn't any sense
00:22:42.220 of immediate danger.
00:22:43.280 I looked up,
00:22:44.240 and instead of my mom,
00:22:44.940 I saw this just kind of shadow.
00:22:46.540 As soon as I looked at it,
00:22:47.440 it's kind of slunked
00:22:48.560 into the crack,
00:22:49.740 walked around
00:22:50.260 to the edge of my bed.
00:22:51.240 It kind of had these
00:22:52.000 milky white eyes.
00:22:53.600 Its eyes flashed,
00:22:55.980 and I felt this
00:22:57.100 overwhelming sense of fear.
00:22:58.980 Absolute panic
00:22:59.940 was just going
00:23:01.320 through my body.
00:23:02.160 It happened night
00:23:02.820 after night after night
00:23:04.040 for three and a half years.
00:23:05.980 You have this question,
00:23:07.340 which is,
00:23:08.140 am I a highly
00:23:09.000 functioning schizophrenic?
00:23:10.760 They talked to me
00:23:11.460 about this concept
00:23:12.120 that I hadn't heard of before,
00:23:13.480 that they called
00:23:14.420 seeing in the spirit.
00:23:15.700 Something in that recipe
00:23:17.320 of expanding the options
00:23:19.780 from either I'm going crazy
00:23:21.440 or the devil's decided
00:23:22.380 to ruin my life
00:23:23.240 to this third option
00:23:24.700 of maybe I have a gift
00:23:26.000 that I just haven't learned
00:23:26.980 how to manage yet.
00:23:28.400 This is your daily experience.
00:23:30.200 It is.
00:23:31.020 Do you see these things now?
00:23:32.260 Like right now?
00:23:33.460 While we're talking
00:23:34.200 at this very moment.
00:23:35.140 What do you see?
00:23:35.760 Right now,
00:23:36.340 I can see your personal angel
00:23:38.160 standing right behind you,
00:23:39.380 just behind your left shoulder.
00:23:41.340 Watch the full episode
00:23:49.100 to find out
00:23:49.680 do you believe him?
00:23:50.480 Do you not believe him?
00:23:51.800 If you do believe him,
00:23:52.780 what does it all mean?
00:23:53.520 Watch it on
00:23:54.560 the Michael Wells YouTube channel
00:23:55.720 and do not forget
00:23:57.040 to subscribe
00:23:57.580 for the ad-free version
00:23:58.840 on Daily Wire Plus.
00:24:02.300 Turning to macabre matters,
00:24:04.420 the CEO of UnitedHealthcare,
00:24:06.260 Brian Thompson,
00:24:07.020 was murdered
00:24:07.640 up by Rockefeller Plaza.
00:24:09.340 I was in Rockefeller Plaza
00:24:10.860 four days ago.
00:24:12.820 I was over the last weekend.
00:24:14.300 I was in Rockefeller Plaza,
00:24:15.640 came back to Tennessee.
00:24:17.120 Then I flew back to New York
00:24:18.680 and I was staying
00:24:19.720 just some blocks down,
00:24:21.260 but not too far
00:24:22.200 from where this guy was murdered.
00:24:24.740 And when I heard he was murdered,
00:24:26.260 I thought, wow,
00:24:27.220 usually I stay a little
00:24:27.940 further uptown.
00:24:28.540 I said, wow,
00:24:29.260 good thing I didn't stay
00:24:30.080 in my usual spot
00:24:31.040 because had I,
00:24:32.460 I don't know,
00:24:32.920 I might have been near
00:24:33.620 the scene of a shooting.
00:24:34.620 But then when I saw the video,
00:24:36.320 I realized I could have been
00:24:37.680 standing right next to that guy.
00:24:38.980 The killer would not have
00:24:41.040 harmed a hair on my head
00:24:42.300 because this was very obviously
00:24:44.280 a targeted killing.
00:24:45.800 I think it took place
00:24:46.460 about a quarter of 7 a.m.
00:24:49.220 outside the Hilton
00:24:50.620 by Rockefeller Plaza.
00:24:52.140 And you can see
00:24:53.220 the CEO of UnitedHealthcare
00:24:54.920 is walking up
00:24:55.980 wearing a nice blue jacket.
00:24:59.240 And then a killer
00:25:00.160 shows up behind him,
00:25:01.180 all black,
00:25:02.020 hood on,
00:25:03.020 pulls out a gun.
00:25:03.840 And some are reporting
00:25:04.860 it was a subsonic rounds
00:25:08.060 with a suppressor on it,
00:25:10.000 just shoots the guy.
00:25:11.000 And then he just keeps walking.
00:25:13.620 So the CEO goes down,
00:25:15.100 he just keeps walking,
00:25:16.000 apparently hopped on a city bike,
00:25:17.740 rode up towards Central Park,
00:25:19.000 and as of airtime,
00:25:21.700 has still not been caught.
00:25:24.460 Then I was flying out
00:25:25.340 of New York yesterday,
00:25:26.440 a lot of cops
00:25:26.940 all over the airport,
00:25:27.840 probably assuming this guy
00:25:28.800 was going to get away.
00:25:29.680 It would seem as though
00:25:31.140 this guy could have been
00:25:33.100 a hitman.
00:25:34.100 It looked like
00:25:34.900 a pretty professional job.
00:25:36.160 Some are arguing
00:25:36.700 it wasn't a totally
00:25:37.400 professional job.
00:25:38.260 I don't know,
00:25:38.660 it looked pretty good to me.
00:25:39.540 The fact that this guy
00:25:40.220 still hasn't been caught,
00:25:41.900 that he got away
00:25:43.200 from the scene rather quickly,
00:25:44.320 that he targeted him,
00:25:46.540 seems like a professional
00:25:47.840 contract killing to me.
00:25:49.620 But then the question is,
00:25:50.680 why was this healthcare CEO killed?
00:25:53.660 Some suggested,
00:25:54.900 and my mind went here
00:25:55.700 at first too,
00:25:56.560 maybe it's because
00:25:57.640 UnitedHealthcare
00:25:58.860 denies people's insurance claims,
00:26:00.880 maybe some family member
00:26:02.040 had a claim denied,
00:26:03.300 maybe a family ended up
00:26:04.240 in a ton of medical debt,
00:26:05.160 maybe a family member
00:26:05.900 ended up dead,
00:26:06.940 and someone was just
00:26:08.080 exacting revenge
00:26:09.640 on this CEO.
00:26:12.120 Could be,
00:26:12.700 plenty of people
00:26:13.120 have an ax to grind
00:26:13.860 with medical insurance CEOs.
00:26:15.780 But then I saw this part.
00:26:18.580 Apparently,
00:26:19.140 Brian Thompson
00:26:19.800 was one of several
00:26:20.840 senior executives
00:26:22.040 at UnitedHealthcare
00:26:23.580 who was under investigation
00:26:25.440 by the DOJ.
00:26:26.500 because on February 16th,
00:26:30.180 he exercised stock options
00:26:31.880 and sold shares
00:26:32.560 worth over 15 million bucks.
00:26:34.760 That was less than two weeks
00:26:36.560 before news of this
00:26:37.940 federal antitrust investigation
00:26:39.720 went public.
00:26:40.740 That's according to
00:26:41.240 Crane's New York
00:26:41.800 business report.
00:26:43.220 It wasn't just him.
00:26:45.340 UnitedHealth Group
00:26:46.040 chairman Stephen Helmsley,
00:26:48.060 chief people officer,
00:26:49.440 whatever that is,
00:26:50.280 Aaron McSweeney,
00:26:51.140 and chief accounting officer,
00:26:52.840 Tom Roos,
00:26:53.800 sold a combined
00:26:54.860 $101.5 million
00:26:57.500 worth of shares.
00:27:00.080 Helmsley,
00:27:00.820 the chairman,
00:27:01.760 netted $85 million
00:27:02.920 according to the report.
00:27:03.920 So it does seem like
00:27:04.880 there was
00:27:05.240 an intense amount
00:27:06.860 of insider trading
00:27:07.780 going on here.
00:27:09.060 So then why was he murdered?
00:27:10.200 Was he murdered
00:27:10.680 because of a vengeful
00:27:12.540 customer
00:27:14.160 who was jilted
00:27:15.400 by the company?
00:27:16.180 Or was he murdered
00:27:17.120 perhaps because
00:27:17.800 there was this antitrust probe
00:27:18.880 and maybe this guy
00:27:19.800 knew a little bit too much?
00:27:22.080 Seems to me,
00:27:23.000 having read all of that
00:27:23.780 on the insider trading,
00:27:25.080 it is much more likely
00:27:26.160 to be the latter case.
00:27:27.220 Why do I bring up
00:27:27.700 the story at all?
00:27:29.040 It's tabloid fodder.
00:27:30.360 It's interesting.
00:27:31.020 It's a murder story.
00:27:31.880 It's grisly.
00:27:32.820 I bring it up
00:27:33.520 just as a matter
00:27:35.100 of political thinking
00:27:36.360 applicable
00:27:38.000 to any number
00:27:39.620 of political matters.
00:27:41.540 It's usually wise
00:27:42.840 to follow the incentives.
00:27:45.000 If you want to figure out
00:27:46.140 what's going on,
00:27:46.860 if you want to figure out
00:27:47.640 why someone did something,
00:27:49.260 it's usually
00:27:52.020 more effective.
00:27:53.200 Rather than thinking
00:27:53.940 in all sorts of abstract,
00:27:55.280 abstruse philosophy
00:27:56.280 or ideology,
00:27:57.380 it's usually a little bit clearer
00:27:58.880 just to follow
00:27:59.560 the incentives.
00:28:01.480 And as of now,
00:28:02.900 if I were looking
00:28:04.380 and if I were a cop,
00:28:05.360 I'm not a cop,
00:28:05.860 if I were a detective,
00:28:06.740 I would probably focus
00:28:08.420 on the money.
00:28:11.120 Now, speaking of incentives
00:28:13.020 and disincentives,
00:28:14.140 some really,
00:28:15.200 really great news
00:28:16.020 coming out
00:28:16.700 of the Trump transition.
00:28:18.700 You might recall
00:28:19.760 that some weeks ago
00:28:21.980 on the show,
00:28:22.480 I said that the next
00:28:24.940 White House press secretary
00:28:26.180 should rip up
00:28:28.000 the White House seating chart
00:28:29.820 and replace it.
00:28:31.800 Not only because
00:28:32.860 the establishment media
00:28:34.360 lie and don't have credibility,
00:28:36.280 but also because increasingly
00:28:37.480 they don't have an audience.
00:28:38.840 MSNBC gets like
00:28:39.880 three viewers a night
00:28:40.860 and is being spun off.
00:28:42.640 It's on the chopping block.
00:28:43.880 CNN is dealing
00:28:45.820 with massive problems,
00:28:47.200 massive layoffs,
00:28:48.160 a huge collapse in ratings.
00:28:50.400 The New York Times,
00:28:51.060 the Washington Post
00:28:51.620 admit that this was
00:28:52.180 the podcast election
00:28:53.260 and that the streamers
00:28:54.840 and the podcasters
00:28:55.560 and the new media
00:28:56.300 really came into their own
00:28:57.840 and the establishment media
00:28:58.800 were on their heels.
00:29:00.120 Washington Post said
00:29:00.880 that new media
00:29:02.520 are eating the old media's lunch.
00:29:04.540 So my conclusion from that was,
00:29:06.380 all right,
00:29:06.600 not even just to be vindictive,
00:29:08.900 though maybe there's
00:29:09.420 a little bit of that,
00:29:10.240 but also just because
00:29:11.740 the purpose of the White House briefing
00:29:13.220 is to communicate
00:29:14.140 what's going on at the White House
00:29:15.120 to the American people
00:29:16.180 to receive the questions
00:29:17.600 from the American people
00:29:18.440 through the media
00:29:19.060 that they trust
00:29:19.940 and that they listen to
00:29:20.960 because of that,
00:29:22.200 it makes no sense
00:29:23.260 to have CNN in the front row.
00:29:24.620 It makes no sense
00:29:25.660 to have the New York Times
00:29:27.040 maybe anywhere in the room,
00:29:28.720 but certainly up toward
00:29:29.500 the top of the room,
00:29:30.180 it makes no sense
00:29:30.840 for MSNBC to have a chair.
00:29:32.880 You got to redo
00:29:34.240 the seating chart.
00:29:35.580 So I called for that,
00:29:36.940 made a little bit of news.
00:29:38.260 Then I was on Don Jr.'s show,
00:29:40.840 mentioned this.
00:29:41.980 Don suggested, actually,
00:29:44.740 that he had talked
00:29:45.740 to his father
00:29:46.140 about the matter
00:29:46.800 and his father
00:29:47.520 was amenable to it.
00:29:48.720 Now we're getting
00:29:49.340 a report in The Hill
00:29:51.260 that it looks like
00:29:53.220 it's going to happen.
00:29:53.780 White House press corps
00:29:55.040 recoils at Trump's threat
00:29:56.180 to shake up
00:29:57.220 the briefing room.
00:29:58.880 People close to Trump,
00:30:00.000 writes The Hill,
00:30:01.560 have said in recent days
00:30:02.540 he should dramatically change
00:30:03.600 who gets access
00:30:04.120 to the president,
00:30:04.740 suggesting podcasters,
00:30:05.720 internet personalities,
00:30:06.500 and media deemed
00:30:06.980 more friendly to him
00:30:07.800 could replace outlets
00:30:08.520 like major television networks.
00:30:09.840 Okay, hold on.
00:30:11.660 It's not just media
00:30:13.660 that are more friendly to him.
00:30:15.160 That is not what we said.
00:30:17.020 I've been pretty close
00:30:17.980 to the center of this story,
00:30:19.020 so I know once I speak.
00:30:21.540 What has been said
00:30:22.480 is that media
00:30:23.440 that have more credibility
00:30:25.460 and a wider reach
00:30:28.120 and a deeper reach,
00:30:29.380 those are the outlets
00:30:30.340 that should be there.
00:30:31.080 It's not just a matter
00:30:32.160 of personal petty grievances.
00:30:35.240 This is a matter of justice,
00:30:37.300 and this is a matter
00:30:38.200 of practicality.
00:30:40.840 What media are actually
00:30:42.240 reaching the people?
00:30:43.120 That's who you should prioritize.
00:30:45.700 Could replace outlets
00:30:46.700 like major television networks,
00:30:47.900 The New York Times,
00:30:48.460 The Washington Post,
00:30:49.080 and The Room's front rows.
00:30:49.840 Reporters covering the White House
00:30:50.740 in conversations
00:30:51.740 with The Hill this week
00:30:52.760 described a feeling
00:30:53.680 of annoyance, frustration,
00:30:55.780 and dread at such an idea.
00:30:57.600 Yes, they should feel dread
00:30:59.120 because it means
00:31:00.540 that they're totally undeserved
00:31:03.140 monopoly on political discourse,
00:31:05.560 on the public square,
00:31:06.380 the public square,
00:31:07.360 which is where politics happens
00:31:09.060 in a self-governing republic,
00:31:10.440 that that might be coming to an end.
00:31:11.900 This is one of the most important things
00:31:14.000 the Trump administration could do.
00:31:16.720 We said from the beginning,
00:31:18.520 Trump is already looking
00:31:19.300 to reset the relationship
00:31:20.440 between the citizen
00:31:21.660 and the federal government.
00:31:23.260 Great.
00:31:24.080 That's good.
00:31:24.540 That's a big part of Elon Musk
00:31:25.980 and Vivek coming in
00:31:27.260 with the Department
00:31:28.240 of Government Efficiency.
00:31:29.580 But perhaps just as important,
00:31:31.860 perhaps more important,
00:31:33.300 is Trump's once-in-a-century,
00:31:37.020 at least once-in-a-generation
00:31:38.080 opportunity,
00:31:38.860 to reset the relationship
00:31:40.160 between the citizen
00:31:42.260 and the media,
00:31:43.800 and the relationship
00:31:44.960 between the media
00:31:45.800 and the White House.
00:31:48.080 Media really, really matter.
00:31:50.440 Media is the plural of medium.
00:31:52.380 It is the medium
00:31:53.180 through which
00:31:54.300 the citizens
00:31:55.520 relate to their government.
00:31:57.960 And that medium,
00:31:59.840 those media,
00:32:00.920 have become
00:32:01.580 very, very corrupt.
00:32:04.040 And usually,
00:32:05.080 they're just too strong
00:32:05.900 for us to do anything about it.
00:32:07.100 But they're weak right now.
00:32:08.260 And we've got to kick them
00:32:09.140 while they're down.
00:32:10.080 And we need to replace them
00:32:11.520 with better media
00:32:12.660 who will do a better job
00:32:13.900 serving the function
00:32:14.780 that they're supposed to serve.
00:32:16.140 Really, really
00:32:16.960 encouraging stuff.
00:32:19.800 Now,
00:32:21.020 speaking of the Libs
00:32:22.340 admitting defeat
00:32:23.460 or the likelihood of defeat,
00:32:24.840 Politico has a rather
00:32:26.440 interesting story out right now.
00:32:29.200 Joe Biden is considering
00:32:30.500 blanket pardons
00:32:32.040 for some of his top allies,
00:32:34.140 not only in the executive branch,
00:32:36.240 not only in the executive agencies,
00:32:37.740 but also even electeds
00:32:40.140 in Congress.
00:32:40.900 The deliberations
00:32:43.240 touch on pardoning
00:32:44.400 those currently in office
00:32:45.380 elected and appointed,
00:32:46.300 as well as former officials
00:32:47.640 who've angered Trump
00:32:48.380 and his loyalists.
00:32:50.060 Those who could face exposure
00:32:51.780 include such members
00:32:53.040 of Congress as January 6th.
00:32:54.340 Oh, sorry.
00:32:56.960 January 6th!
00:32:58.480 The worst day in the history
00:32:59.300 of this or any republic committee.
00:33:01.260 As Senator-elect Adam Schiff,
00:33:04.260 former GOP representative
00:33:06.060 Liz Cheney of Wyoming,
00:33:07.260 Trump has previously said
00:33:09.760 Liz Cheney should go to jail
00:33:12.560 along with the rest
00:33:13.260 of the unselect committee.
00:33:14.560 Also mentioned by Biden's
00:33:15.600 aides for a part
00:33:16.040 is Anthony Fauci,
00:33:16.980 former head of the NIH,
00:33:18.280 or sorry,
00:33:18.580 former head of the
00:33:19.480 National Institute of Allergy
00:33:21.000 and Infectious Diseases,
00:33:22.340 a top official at the NIH
00:33:23.460 who became a lightning rod
00:33:24.920 for criticism from the right
00:33:26.160 during the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:33:27.820 There we go.
00:33:28.120 They even get a little
00:33:28.660 right pounces in there,
00:33:30.580 even at the end.
00:33:31.160 It's not that Anthony Fauci
00:33:32.160 lied to us consistently
00:33:33.420 and screwed up our country
00:33:34.480 for years and not only
00:33:38.440 got things wrong,
00:33:39.600 but intentionally hid information
00:33:41.640 and was deceptive
00:33:42.700 and had lots of consequences
00:33:43.860 to that.
00:33:44.480 No, no, no.
00:33:44.880 It's that he was a lightning rod
00:33:47.480 for criticism.
00:33:49.340 He became a,
00:33:50.080 hey, hey, Politico,
00:33:51.640 how did he become
00:33:52.720 a lightning rod for criticism?
00:33:54.380 Where did all the criticism
00:33:55.680 come from?
00:33:56.800 Was it just these irrational
00:33:58.020 conservatives who decided
00:33:59.800 one day to criticize?
00:34:00.980 No, perhaps he deserved criticism.
00:34:02.920 Liz Cheney,
00:34:04.940 Adam Schiff,
00:34:05.500 the January 6th committee.
00:34:08.580 Why would President Trump
00:34:09.960 maybe take issue
00:34:11.200 with the January 6th committee?
00:34:12.460 Is it because
00:34:13.220 the January 6th committee
00:34:14.580 knowingly hid evidence
00:34:16.540 that helped to exonerate
00:34:19.260 President Trump?
00:34:20.280 Is it because
00:34:20.940 the January 6th committee
00:34:22.540 targeted the president
00:34:25.580 in a way that was
00:34:27.040 deeply unjust,
00:34:28.200 that maybe they even
00:34:29.080 committed some crimes in there?
00:34:30.900 Did they do anything?
00:34:32.920 To attract this criticism,
00:34:34.080 I think probably they did.
00:34:35.180 So, Biden,
00:34:37.120 after pardoning Hunter
00:34:38.480 for any crimes
00:34:39.500 that he did
00:34:40.200 or did not
00:34:40.940 or might have committed
00:34:41.900 from just before
00:34:43.520 he got on the board
00:34:44.360 of Burisma
00:34:44.880 and took a bunch
00:34:45.580 of bribes from Ukraine
00:34:46.620 to sell Joe Biden
00:34:47.880 state influence
00:34:48.680 all the way up
00:34:49.660 until December 1st
00:34:50.840 of this year,
00:34:52.260 right after that blanket
00:34:53.280 unprecedented presidential pardon,
00:34:55.240 now Biden's going to
00:34:55.980 pardon all of his other friends
00:34:57.000 for any crimes
00:34:58.480 that they may have committed.
00:34:59.640 The question I have is,
00:35:01.300 is this the new normal?
00:35:03.440 This is just what we do now?
00:35:05.620 We just have to pardon?
00:35:07.020 The president has to pardon
00:35:08.460 everyone around him
00:35:10.340 whom the next administration
00:35:12.140 might go after?
00:35:14.500 Yikes.
00:35:15.160 That is bad news bears, man.
00:35:17.420 That is not good.
00:35:18.680 That is banana republic
00:35:20.020 kind of stuff.
00:35:21.400 That is tin pot dictatorship
00:35:23.680 kind of stuff.
00:35:24.120 But I get it.
00:35:25.060 I get why Biden
00:35:25.880 would be doing it
00:35:26.520 because he reduced America
00:35:28.320 to a tin pot dictatorship
00:35:29.480 and a banana republic.
00:35:31.480 Before Joe Biden,
00:35:32.940 we didn't prosecute
00:35:34.080 former presidents.
00:35:35.500 Before Joe Biden,
00:35:36.660 we didn't prosecute
00:35:37.680 the leader of the opposition.
00:35:39.820 Joe Biden
00:35:40.520 and the Democrats
00:35:41.460 gave us that.
00:35:43.480 So I can't even say,
00:35:44.920 look, cut it out.
00:35:46.560 Trump won't investigate
00:35:47.940 these people
00:35:48.620 who upended
00:35:49.860 200 years of our,
00:35:51.320 more than 200 years
00:35:52.380 of our tradition.
00:35:53.540 These people
00:35:54.200 who led
00:35:55.360 a legal insurrection
00:35:56.720 of our country
00:35:57.340 far more significant
00:35:58.300 than whatever
00:35:58.680 the horn hat guy
00:35:59.380 did on January 6th.
00:36:01.100 No, I'm not going
00:36:01.700 to tell Trump,
00:36:02.240 don't do that.
00:36:03.840 The Democrats
00:36:04.700 did something
00:36:06.300 egregiously wrong.
00:36:08.820 And if we don't
00:36:10.640 want that to happen again,
00:36:11.520 we probably need
00:36:12.220 to hold them to account.
00:36:14.000 And what Joe Biden
00:36:15.040 is going to do
00:36:15.440 to protect himself
00:36:16.140 and his friends
00:36:16.680 is he's probably
00:36:18.180 going to further
00:36:19.320 degrade America
00:36:20.300 into resembling
00:36:21.420 a banana republic.
00:36:22.880 He's going to take
00:36:24.000 his actions
00:36:25.260 all the way
00:36:25.820 to their logical conclusion.
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00:36:58.560 My favorite comment
00:36:59.500 yesterday is from
00:36:59.980 Cheryl Calogero.
00:37:02.160 Calogero?
00:37:02.740 I don't know.
00:37:03.480 Who at 3330
00:37:04.480 says,
00:37:04.900 Michael,
00:37:05.160 I love your studio.
00:37:06.160 The decor is very masculine.
00:37:08.020 Fits you beautifully.
00:37:09.340 Great design job.
00:37:10.380 Thank you very much.
00:37:11.140 I can't take too much credit
00:37:12.240 for the design
00:37:13.300 in my studio.
00:37:14.440 I perhaps served
00:37:15.980 as an inspiration
00:37:16.760 for it,
00:37:17.460 but it was our
00:37:18.040 excellent designer,
00:37:19.480 Carol and Ralph
00:37:20.740 and other people
00:37:21.440 who really made it happen.
00:37:24.020 I mostly just served
00:37:25.420 to veto things,
00:37:26.560 but I didn't even have
00:37:27.420 to veto very much.
00:37:28.280 They did a great job.
00:37:29.340 And then while I was
00:37:30.140 in New York,
00:37:31.040 what did my producers do?
00:37:33.120 They decked the halls
00:37:34.260 for Christmas.
00:37:35.340 And now,
00:37:36.540 you know my views on this.
00:37:38.360 I'm very against
00:37:39.360 Advent erasure.
00:37:41.420 Okay,
00:37:41.680 we need to make America
00:37:42.400 great again,
00:37:42.860 make America healthy again,
00:37:43.780 make Advent solemn again.
00:37:45.820 So,
00:37:46.980 what do I make of my,
00:37:48.020 it looks nice,
00:37:48.940 what they did.
00:37:49.560 For those of you
00:37:50.120 only listening,
00:37:50.740 they put my,
00:37:51.640 they put stockings up
00:37:52.780 with Michael,
00:37:54.840 Ben,
00:37:55.220 Markella,
00:37:55.660 and Jacob on it.
00:37:56.520 They put up
00:37:57.120 little festive bells
00:37:59.060 and little Michael ornaments
00:38:00.520 and holly,
00:38:01.600 and I don't think
00:38:02.000 there's any mistletoe in here.
00:38:04.100 I really,
00:38:04.300 I really hope
00:38:05.520 there's no mistletoe in here
00:38:06.620 when, you know,
00:38:07.140 the producers come in.
00:38:08.540 However,
00:38:09.080 what does that mean?
00:38:09.820 It means that they
00:38:10.980 put up a lot
00:38:12.120 of Advent decorations.
00:38:13.060 So,
00:38:13.800 thank you for the Advent decorations.
00:38:15.520 It's beautiful.
00:38:16.700 This feels very sober
00:38:18.660 and solemn
00:38:19.340 and looks really nice.
00:38:22.260 Now,
00:38:23.000 we have got
00:38:24.560 some tea
00:38:25.560 to spill.
00:38:26.360 The other day,
00:38:26.840 I spilled my
00:38:27.760 fruity seltzer.
00:38:29.360 I am about to spill
00:38:30.320 some tea.
00:38:34.780 There is a rumor
00:38:35.940 going around
00:38:36.620 Washington, D.C.
00:38:37.500 that Trump
00:38:38.020 is going to pull
00:38:38.740 his support
00:38:39.240 for Pete Hegseth
00:38:39.900 for defense secretary
00:38:40.840 and swap him out
00:38:42.580 for Ron DeSantis.
00:38:45.500 I'm going to say
00:38:46.180 at the outset here.
00:38:48.880 I like Ron DeSantis.
00:38:50.080 I think Ron DeSantis
00:38:50.700 is extremely intelligent,
00:38:52.040 extremely competent.
00:38:52.900 He could do
00:38:53.260 pretty much any job
00:38:54.080 in the entire government
00:38:54.900 in the country.
00:38:55.600 He'd do great at it.
00:38:56.880 This is in no way
00:38:57.820 a reflection
00:38:58.280 of DeSantis' qualifications.
00:38:59.940 He's more than qualified.
00:39:02.680 If I were President Trump,
00:39:03.980 I would not back off
00:39:04.940 Pete Hegseth.
00:39:06.860 I really,
00:39:08.140 really like
00:39:08.620 Pete Hegseth.
00:39:09.260 I think Pete Hegseth
00:39:10.480 would do a terrific job
00:39:11.960 as the Secretary of Defense.
00:39:14.180 I think Pete Hegseth
00:39:14.920 is already doing wonders.
00:39:16.100 I think his nomination
00:39:16.820 is already doing wonders
00:39:17.740 for military recruitment
00:39:19.160 and military morale.
00:39:21.040 I think that the attacks
00:39:22.740 on Pete Hegseth
00:39:23.400 are in part
00:39:24.600 dishonest
00:39:25.700 and in other parts
00:39:27.440 exaggerated
00:39:28.160 and leading to
00:39:29.400 selective outrage.
00:39:30.980 The real attack
00:39:31.980 on Pete Hegseth
00:39:32.640 is that
00:39:33.420 some years ago
00:39:34.280 he was a Cazanova.
00:39:36.220 That some years ago
00:39:37.340 he was a ladies' man.
00:39:39.080 He hasn't
00:39:39.820 really hid that fact.
00:39:41.260 I think it's been
00:39:41.680 pretty public
00:39:42.180 for a while
00:39:43.140 and though now
00:39:44.520 he's not that way,
00:39:45.520 he used to be that way
00:39:46.540 and that's disqualifying.
00:39:49.520 Democrats would never
00:39:50.360 apply that standard
00:39:51.080 to any of their own people.
00:39:52.680 They're trying to accuse him
00:39:53.680 of rape,
00:39:54.240 that there's zero evidence
00:39:55.280 for that.
00:39:55.760 That's totally out the window.
00:39:57.220 So if I were President Trump,
00:39:58.800 I would not back off
00:40:00.200 the Hegseth nomination
00:40:01.160 because
00:40:02.040 if he backs off
00:40:03.160 the Hegseth nomination,
00:40:04.620 then they're just going to go
00:40:06.340 after Bobby Kennedy.
00:40:07.340 And if he backs off
00:40:08.400 the Bobby Kennedy nomination,
00:40:09.580 they're just going to go
00:40:10.140 after Tulsi.
00:40:10.940 And if he backs off
00:40:11.760 the Tulsi nomination,
00:40:12.720 they're going to go
00:40:13.080 after the next person.
00:40:14.300 And they're going to,
00:40:14.880 at a certain point,
00:40:16.000 they're just going to sense
00:40:17.220 there's so much blood
00:40:17.960 in the water
00:40:18.440 that the Democrats
00:40:19.200 and the squishes
00:40:19.800 can go after
00:40:20.300 any of Trump's nominees.
00:40:21.460 So if I were President Trump,
00:40:23.100 I would stick it out
00:40:25.200 because I think,
00:40:26.440 one,
00:40:26.720 I really like Pete
00:40:27.620 and two,
00:40:28.460 I think that Pete
00:40:29.360 can get through.
00:40:31.240 But let's say
00:40:32.160 that they're trying
00:40:32.820 to work out a deal.
00:40:33.700 What does that deal look like?
00:40:35.000 I mentioned earlier
00:40:35.720 in the show
00:40:36.100 when I was talking about
00:40:36.600 the murder in New York.
00:40:38.140 You've got to follow incentives.
00:40:40.220 If you want to understand
00:40:41.100 how machinations
00:40:41.960 are going down,
00:40:43.760 ideology can be helpful,
00:40:45.880 but cold hard incentives
00:40:48.060 can sometimes be more helpful.
00:40:49.880 And here's this little story.
00:40:51.660 It came out of the Bulwark.
00:40:52.900 This is an outlet
00:40:54.840 that I do not usually read,
00:40:56.080 but it's instructive here
00:40:56.980 because the Bulwark hates Trump.
00:40:59.400 It was an outlet
00:40:59.820 founded in direct opposition
00:41:01.560 to Trump
00:41:02.120 and they're pushing this idea
00:41:03.260 that Trump is going to pull off
00:41:04.180 the Hegseth nomination.
00:41:06.300 The Bulwark does make
00:41:07.260 one good point here,
00:41:08.160 which is that
00:41:08.740 Marco Rubio
00:41:10.740 is going to be
00:41:11.080 the Secretary of State.
00:41:12.640 Ron DeSantis
00:41:13.120 is the governor of Florida.
00:41:14.500 That means that
00:41:15.280 Ron DeSantis
00:41:15.940 has to figure out
00:41:17.100 who's going to replace
00:41:18.140 Marco Rubio
00:41:19.260 in the United States Senate.
00:41:20.460 Laura Trump
00:41:22.100 has reportedly
00:41:23.540 expressed some interest
00:41:26.040 in taking this seat
00:41:27.200 in Florida.
00:41:27.880 Obviously,
00:41:28.240 the Trumps are quite prominent
00:41:29.160 in Florida,
00:41:29.880 especially in Palm Beach.
00:41:31.380 So,
00:41:32.080 is there a world
00:41:33.880 in which
00:41:34.440 a deal goes down,
00:41:37.260 DeSantis goes
00:41:38.040 to the Pentagon,
00:41:39.480 and Laura Trump
00:41:40.420 goes into Rubio's
00:41:41.420 Senate seat?
00:41:43.460 People are asking,
00:41:44.660 why would President Trump
00:41:45.800 pick Ron DeSantis,
00:41:46.920 the man
00:41:47.400 against whom he fought
00:41:48.720 a brutal primary?
00:41:49.720 It wasn't a particularly
00:41:50.880 difficult primary.
00:41:52.860 It was never a primary
00:41:54.080 that Trump
00:41:55.760 was going to lose,
00:41:56.600 I don't think.
00:41:56.980 I think Trump's nomination
00:41:57.860 was pretty much
00:41:58.460 a fait accompli
00:41:59.080 from the beginning,
00:42:00.540 but especially
00:42:01.120 after the prosecutions,
00:42:02.060 then it was totally over.
00:42:03.480 But even still,
00:42:04.740 why would Trump
00:42:05.320 pick DeSantis?
00:42:07.440 Look,
00:42:07.920 in part,
00:42:09.400 Trump doesn't
00:42:09.840 take things personally.
00:42:11.160 He fights brutally.
00:42:12.680 He can fight personally,
00:42:14.200 but then he doesn't
00:42:15.020 really take things personally.
00:42:16.440 He kisses and makes up
00:42:17.780 with Lindsey Graham,
00:42:18.660 who he ran against
00:42:19.380 in 16,
00:42:20.040 with Rand Paul,
00:42:21.380 with Ted Cruz,
00:42:22.320 with Marco Rubio,
00:42:23.280 obviously,
00:42:23.920 puts it Secretary of State.
00:42:24.940 So,
00:42:25.900 you could see Trump
00:42:26.820 putting him somewhere,
00:42:28.560 but he'd probably have
00:42:29.260 to have a reason for it.
00:42:31.000 That would explain
00:42:32.320 how to do it.
00:42:33.220 Now,
00:42:33.460 would that be a good deal?
00:42:34.440 Maybe it would.
00:42:36.020 However,
00:42:36.520 there is a real cost.
00:42:37.760 If Trump pulls away
00:42:39.320 from his current nominee,
00:42:42.940 that is,
00:42:43.440 now you're going to have
00:42:43.960 two nominees go down
00:42:45.180 before they even
00:42:45.860 really seek
00:42:46.660 the Senate confirmation,
00:42:47.800 Matt Gaetz,
00:42:48.460 and I don't know.
00:42:49.300 To me,
00:42:49.800 that's really dangerous.
00:42:52.120 I think you get
00:42:53.120 one of those.
00:42:54.580 You get a limited number,
00:42:56.400 and if you're already
00:42:56.880 going to blow
00:42:57.220 your limited number
00:42:57.860 of pulling away
00:42:58.500 on your nominees,
00:42:59.940 then you might wind up
00:43:00.960 in the same trouble
00:43:02.180 that Trump ended up
00:43:03.000 in the first time around,
00:43:04.140 which is that
00:43:04.840 he wasn't able
00:43:05.640 to get a lot of his
00:43:06.300 top picks through
00:43:07.060 for a year,
00:43:07.800 two years
00:43:08.280 into his administration.
00:43:09.680 That seems to me unwise.
00:43:11.160 I would try to lock down
00:43:11.960 the Senate right now,
00:43:13.200 get Hegseth through,
00:43:14.060 but if it goes down,
00:43:16.320 I don't know.
00:43:17.580 I don't believe
00:43:19.520 the scuttlebutt
00:43:20.280 until it winds up
00:43:21.200 being real,
00:43:21.980 and there would seem
00:43:22.840 to be an active campaign
00:43:24.300 to put DeSantis
00:43:24.940 in at the Pentagon,
00:43:25.960 but just because
00:43:26.760 it's an active campaign
00:43:27.620 doesn't mean
00:43:28.180 that it isn't true.
00:43:29.980 Speaking of qualifications,
00:43:31.460 finally,
00:43:31.780 we get some good news.
00:43:33.700 There is
00:43:34.500 a demographic cliff,
00:43:38.700 according to reports,
00:43:40.100 that is going to
00:43:41.200 shut down
00:43:42.860 a lot of colleges.
00:43:43.720 This, I believe,
00:43:44.360 came out of
00:43:44.620 the Wall Street Journal.
00:43:45.980 It's citing,
00:43:47.080 reporting by Bloomberg
00:43:48.180 and the Federal Reserve
00:43:49.220 Bank of Philadelphia,
00:43:51.060 a model showing
00:43:52.200 that as fewer people
00:43:54.540 are born,
00:43:55.960 first of all,
00:43:56.700 as fewer people
00:43:57.560 then still
00:43:58.520 go to college,
00:44:00.520 researchers
00:44:00.980 have reportedly
00:44:02.540 developed simulations
00:44:03.500 to determine
00:44:05.260 the likelihood
00:44:05.740 future closures
00:44:06.640 of these schools.
00:44:07.540 Finding the worst-case scenario
00:44:08.500 shows schools
00:44:09.100 experiencing
00:44:09.660 a one-time
00:44:10.500 15% drop
00:44:12.320 in new students.
00:44:13.580 That would result
00:44:14.440 in 80 more colleges
00:44:15.980 closing,
00:44:16.940 affecting more than
00:44:17.660 100,000 students
00:44:19.300 and 20,880 staff members.
00:44:22.700 The significant drop
00:44:23.840 in students
00:44:24.480 seeking higher education
00:44:25.500 is known as
00:44:25.960 the demographic cliff.
00:44:27.080 When I went to college,
00:44:28.100 the year after I went
00:44:28.840 to college,
00:44:29.280 2009,
00:44:30.340 marked the high point
00:44:31.680 in American high school
00:44:32.640 graduates going to college.
00:44:33.800 I think it was like
00:44:34.220 70% that year.
00:44:35.500 It was totally crazy.
00:44:36.340 It's petered off
00:44:38.220 a little since then
00:44:38.940 in part because
00:44:40.240 the costs have gone
00:44:41.500 through the roof.
00:44:42.620 The ROI
00:44:43.740 in terms of
00:44:44.680 professional attainment
00:44:45.960 has really dropped.
00:44:47.820 And then even the ROI
00:44:49.020 on what university education
00:44:50.520 is supposed to be for,
00:44:51.720 which is not to be
00:44:52.440 utilitarian,
00:44:53.160 not to be trade school,
00:44:54.120 not to be professional training,
00:44:55.640 but to give you
00:44:56.840 a proper liberal education
00:44:58.380 to help you make sense
00:44:59.940 of your freedom,
00:45:01.020 to help you
00:45:01.820 become a cultured
00:45:03.420 and cultivated person.
00:45:04.400 That's also gone away.
00:45:06.380 So not only do you
00:45:07.460 not graduate college
00:45:08.180 with useful skills,
00:45:09.200 you don't even graduate them
00:45:10.520 with what you're supposed
00:45:11.180 to have,
00:45:11.560 which is useless skills.
00:45:12.820 You really get nothing for it.
00:45:14.260 So people have stopped
00:45:14.960 attending college.
00:45:15.700 And then on top of that,
00:45:17.020 there are just fewer people.
00:45:19.180 We just are not having kids.
00:45:20.380 Americans have not
00:45:21.000 replaced themselves
00:45:21.780 since 1971
00:45:22.880 and it's dropping off
00:45:24.460 even further.
00:45:25.760 Now people just get dogs
00:45:27.000 and they treat their dogs
00:45:27.880 as though they're kids.
00:45:29.180 Well, there are going
00:45:29.820 to be consequences to that.
00:45:31.480 One of the consequences is
00:45:32.780 a lot of these institutions
00:45:34.220 are going to be revealed
00:45:35.280 for what they are.
00:45:36.600 A lot of these institutions
00:45:38.000 that cropped up
00:45:39.480 as a way to just force kids
00:45:41.460 to pressure them
00:45:42.280 with the soft pressure
00:45:43.260 of culture
00:45:43.700 and the hard pressure
00:45:44.740 of political funding
00:45:46.080 to say,
00:45:47.400 you need to go to college
00:45:48.500 to have a good life.
00:45:50.340 Those schools are going
00:45:51.120 to go by the wayside.
00:45:52.960 It's a point that I bring up
00:45:54.320 a lot on the show
00:45:55.080 because I think it is
00:45:56.100 the ultimate
00:45:56.820 conservative consolation,
00:45:58.500 which is that
00:45:59.140 things get crazy.
00:46:00.600 People fly away
00:46:01.460 with flights of fancy.
00:46:02.420 It's so nuts
00:46:03.080 that they even think
00:46:03.640 a man could be a woman.
00:46:04.780 But reality reasserts
00:46:07.120 itself in the end.
00:46:08.660 In the end,
00:46:09.880 it might take a long time.
00:46:11.620 We might want to hasten
00:46:12.740 this along a little bit.
00:46:13.700 But in the end,
00:46:14.400 reality will
00:46:15.400 reassert itself.
00:46:18.520 You can't have institutions
00:46:20.020 charge you a quarter million dollars
00:46:21.240 and give you nothing
00:46:21.960 and have those institutions
00:46:22.860 continue to thrive forever.
00:46:24.120 It doesn't work.
00:46:25.640 You can't have a society
00:46:26.960 that doesn't get married
00:46:28.400 and doesn't have children
00:46:29.300 and doesn't replace itself
00:46:30.480 and have that society continue.
00:46:32.920 It's just not going to happen.
00:46:34.940 Kronos is going to devour his sons.
00:46:37.600 You know,
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