The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1630 - The Supreme Court Transgenderism Case EXPLAINED

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00:00:54.020 The Supreme Court heard oral arguments yesterday in a monumental case that might uphold the right

00:01:00.000 of states to ban transing kids.

00:01:03.420 And the arguments were not only disastrous for the pro-trans side, they were also just generally

00:01:09.760 hilarious.

00:01:10.680 I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:02:10.020 The Associated Press, The Washington Post, pretty much everyone, including in the liberal

00:02:16.140 media establishment, admit the Supreme Court is likely, based on oral arguments, to uphold

00:02:23.100 the Tennessee law that bans transing kids.

00:02:28.600 Now, this Tennessee law came about in part because the Daily Wire, specifically our pal

00:02:33.600 Matt Walsh, put up a Twitter thread, just a modest Twitter thread talking about something

00:02:38.500 that people in Tennessee knew about, but a lot of other people didn't know about, namely

00:02:42.380 that Vanderbilt Children's Hospital was transing kids.

00:02:46.140 So that was it.

00:02:46.640 One little tweet.

00:02:48.300 One little series of tweets.

00:02:49.480 And then the state legislature got involved.

00:02:52.400 And then the Attorney General, Jonathan Scrimetti of Tennessee, got involved.

00:02:56.800 Then this case went all the way up to the Supreme Court.

00:03:00.580 Oral arguments were heard yesterday.

00:03:02.340 The U.S. solicitor general who was suing Scrimetti, Scrimetti, the Tennessee Attorney General, her

00:03:11.000 name is Elizabeth Preligar.

00:03:12.380 There were other lawyers in this case, one of them being a trans-identifying lawyer herself. 0.56

00:03:19.580 She's a woman who thinks that her name, that she thinks that she's a man, and her name is Chase 0.69

00:03:25.100 Strangio, the first ever trans-identifying lawyer to argue a case before the Supreme Court

00:03:31.200 has the last name Strangio.

00:03:33.680 If you ever doubt providence, if you ever doubt the existence and mirth of God, just listen to

00:03:39.300 these things.

00:03:40.300 So what were the big takeaways?

00:03:42.620 I mean, these oral arguments went on for over two hours.

00:03:45.340 I have the highlights, and there were some real highlights.

00:03:48.860 I think that the federal government's case here was weak as could possibly be.

00:03:55.460 Justice Alito begins with a little bit of a grilling, because the federal government argues

00:04:01.340 these treatments, so-called, namely gelding little kids, are medically necessary treatments

00:04:07.020 in order to prevent depression and anxiety and suicide among supposedly trans kids.

00:04:13.480 And this is the medical consensus, and these backward hillbillies in Tennessee, 1.00

00:04:18.860 are trying to deny people necessary medical treatments.

00:04:21.600 So Justice Alito had this question for the council.

00:04:26.900 Can I ask you a question about the state of medical evidence at the present time?

00:04:33.180 In your petition, you made a sweeping statement, which I will quote,

00:04:38.660 overwhelming evidence establishes that the appropriate gender-affirming treatment with puberty blockers

00:04:44.880 and hormones directly and substantially improves the physical, psychological well-being of transgender

00:04:51.400 adolescents with gender dysphoria.

00:04:54.540 That was in November 2023.

00:04:57.280 Now, even before then, the Swedish National Board of Health and Welfare wrote the following.

00:05:04.680 They currently assess, quote, that the risks of puberty blockers and gender-affirming treatment

00:05:11.080 are likely to outweigh the expected benefits of these treatments, which is directly contrary

00:05:17.420 to the sweeping statement in your petition.

00:05:19.880 After the filing of your petition, of course, we saw the release of the Cass report in the United Kingdom,

00:05:30.780 which found a complete lack of high-quality evidence showing that the benefits of the treatments in question here

00:05:39.380 outweigh the risks.

00:05:41.740 And so I wonder if you would like to stand by the statement that you made in your petition,

00:05:49.640 or if you think it would now be appropriate to modify that and withdraw the statement that there is overwhelming evidence

00:05:57.720 establishing that these treatments have benefits that greatly outweigh the risks and the dangers.

00:06:04.480 I, of course, acknowledge, Justice Alito, that there is a lot of debate happening here and abroad

00:06:10.240 about the proper model of delivery of this care and exactly when adolescents should receive it

00:06:15.300 and how to identify the adolescents for whom it would be helpful.

00:06:18.400 But I stand by that there is a consensus that these treatments can be medically necessary for some adolescents.

00:06:24.860 Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:06:26.800 These treatments can be medically necessary.

00:06:29.960 Even that is bogus.

00:06:31.620 But you just changed your view, Solicitor General, from the overwhelming consensus of all the genius scientists,

00:06:39.600 the medical community says that these are medically necessary treatments to, well, I don't know,

00:06:45.220 maybe sometimes it's not horrible.

00:06:48.140 That's your weakening of your position.

00:06:51.660 Alito just totally destroys the scientific premise behind the case.

00:06:56.140 And he does it in this beautiful way.

00:07:00.600 I just, I love Alito.

00:07:02.240 The guy is absolutely rock solid and clever and funny in his own dry way.

00:07:07.200 He says, you know, counsel, you begin by saying that the overwhelming evidence suggests that transing the kids is good.

00:07:16.140 However, all of the best evidence says it's terrible.

00:07:19.660 Do you want to, do you maybe want to withdraw the chief medical claim in your case?

00:07:25.860 Well, I recognize that it's controversial, Justice Alito.

00:07:29.140 No, no, no, hold on.

00:07:29.700 Wait, did you not hear what the justice just said?

00:07:32.120 It's actually not controversial.

00:07:34.880 All of the best evidence that we have that has been gathered on this topic,

00:07:39.960 all of the highest quality evidence we have on transiting the kids is that it doesn't help anybody.

00:07:45.200 So it's really not all that controversial.

00:07:47.180 Everything we know about it is that transing the kids is bad. 1.00

00:07:52.000 So right off the top there, Alito just guts the government's case from a scientific perspective.

00:07:57.360 Then the SG goes away and we get the trans identifying lawyer who goes by the name Chase Strangio.

00:08:04.320 I don't know what Miss Strangio's real first name is, but she is a lawyer for the ACLU.

00:08:11.480 And she gets up there to make history as the first trans identifying lawyer to argue before the Supreme Court.

00:08:18.160 And here's what Chief Justice Roberts asks her.

00:08:21.340 Counsel, is there any significant respect in which your position departs from that of the Solicitor General?

00:08:28.380 No, Your Honor.

00:08:29.180 I love it.

00:08:31.080 You can basically stop listening right there.

00:08:33.500 Because you say, okay, why after the Solicitor General made the best case she could for a completely indefensible action, 0.95

00:08:43.160 namely gelding little children in the name of a bunch of perverts, sick fantasies and ideologies,

00:08:48.620 right after the SG does her best, which was a total failure, 0.93

00:08:52.060 now you've got the trans identifying lawyer coming up to make history.

00:08:55.080 And Chief Justice Roberts asks, hey, hey, lawyer, is there anything new that you have to add to these discussions?

00:09:03.600 And the trans identifying lawyer says, no, not really.

00:09:06.700 I just want to talk at the Supreme Court.

00:09:08.660 Like, okay, well, now it was good, I think, that this trans identifying lawyer spoke at the Supreme Court

00:09:15.280 because she was manifestly unqualified to do so. 0.65

00:09:18.460 And having such a profound defect of perception that she thinks she's the opposite sex,

00:09:23.360 probably should not practice law.

00:09:25.080 However, she kept speaking, and Justice Alito asked a perspicacious question to cut through the heart of her argument.

00:09:34.940 Are there individuals who are born male, assigned male at birth,

00:09:42.740 who at one point identify as female, but then later come to identify as male?

00:09:51.700 And likewise for individuals who are assigned female at birth, at some point identify as female,

00:10:00.200 I'm sorry, identify as male, but later come to identify as female?

00:10:06.120 Are there not such people?

00:10:07.700 There are such people. I agree with that, Justice.

00:10:09.240 So it's not an immutable characteristic, is it?

00:10:11.760 Well, I think people's understanding of it shifts,

00:10:14.700 but the evidence shows that there is at least a strong underlying basis.

00:10:17.640 I think Alito is just so smart.

00:10:20.060 Sorry, I just smacked my little Michael Christmas ornament here that the producers put on my lamp.

00:10:24.980 Alito is so smart because he says, hold on, are there people who, they're boys,

00:10:33.340 but then they say that they're girls, but then later on they say that they're boys, or vice versa?

00:10:38.900 In other words, does the trans identity transition for some people over time?

00:10:45.880 And the lawyer has to say yes, because the premise of transgender ideology is that gender isn't really fixed, man.

00:10:54.160 It's fluid, and it goes back and forth.

00:10:56.020 And one day, one morning you could wake up and you're a boy, and the next morning you're a girl,

00:11:00.280 and 50 times during the course of the day you go back and forth.

00:11:03.280 Okay, so then transgenderism is not an immutable characteristic.

00:11:08.920 If transgenderism were an immutable characteristic, 1.00

00:11:11.840 there might be some really strong anti-discrimination case here.

00:11:16.380 If the law said we're not going to permit black people to do something,

00:11:21.600 if the law said we're not willing to permit women to do something for that matter, 1.00

00:11:25.860 that even though gender remains in flux, you might say, okay,

00:11:28.300 well, they're attacking immutable characteristics.

00:11:30.280 Even these days you would say if the government discriminates against gay people,

00:11:34.940 because now homosexual tendencies are considered to be immutable.

00:11:38.860 Okay, but here the gender ideology itself by definition has to be fluid. 0.99

00:11:45.780 It has to be transitory.

00:11:47.040 So he says, okay, it's not immutable then.

00:11:50.020 So it's not really a matter of discrimination.

00:11:53.260 And then Justice Thomas comes in.

00:11:56.120 After all these jabs, Justice Thomas comes in with the right hook.

00:11:59.140 If you are successful, what would your remedy be?

00:12:05.020 Your Honor, if we're successful here,

00:12:07.660 the remedy would be to enjoin the state of Tennessee defendants

00:12:12.080 from enforcing SB1 as applied to our individual plaintiffs.

00:12:17.140 So in practical terms, what would it be?

00:12:21.940 What would you get?

00:12:23.180 Wouldn't you get the, you would get different treatment based on sex? 0.99

00:12:30.140 So many people missed this part of the argument,

00:12:32.620 because the way that Justice Thomas speaks is kind of slow and quiet and unassuming

00:12:38.240 and not very provocative.

00:12:39.420 But this was a brilliant, brilliant piece of argumentation here,

00:12:43.960 or rather of argumentation disguised as questioning

00:12:47.160 that the federal government side had absolutely no answer to.

00:12:53.200 Mr. Strangeo had no answer to.

00:12:55.480 The argument is from the government that boys need, 0.96

00:13:01.940 boys who think they're girls need estrogen treatment.

00:13:04.720 I'm oversimplifying, but only barely.

00:13:06.920 Boys who want to be girls need estrogen treatment. 0.97

00:13:09.600 Girls who want to be boys need testosterone treatment. 1.00

00:13:12.960 And it is a discrimination on the basis of sex and gender identity

00:13:17.980 to deny them that treatment.

00:13:21.100 But if a boy went to the doctor at age 12 or whatever,

00:13:27.020 and said, doc, I want some testosterone. 0.73

00:13:30.600 If a boy wanted the testosterone treatment, not a girl wanting the testosterone, 1.00

00:13:33.460 but if a boy wanted it, he would not be given that treatment

00:13:36.240 because it wouldn't fit this criterion of gender dysphoria.

00:13:40.980 Same with the girl.

00:13:41.840 If the girl went to the doctor to say, I want some estrogen, 1.00

00:13:44.640 the doctor would say no.

00:13:46.840 The treatment would only pertain to people who want to pretend to be the opposite sex,

00:13:51.880 which means that it's discrimination on the basis of sex.

00:13:56.360 It's a little bit dizzying, but the whole gender ideology is disorienting 1.00

00:14:01.840 because the whole thing is a nonsense.

00:14:03.180 So sometimes it's difficult to track the argument that the pro-trans people are making.

00:14:07.120 But Justice Thomas does it very well,

00:14:08.720 and he allows them to fall into the trap that they have set for themselves.

00:14:14.020 Absolute routing of the trans ideology at the Supreme Court.

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00:15:30.180 The conservative justice has knocked it out of the ballpark.

00:15:35.160 Sotomayor does her best, the leftist justice, Sonia Sotomayor, does her best

00:15:39.260 to try to trip up the Tennessee Solicitor General arguing against transing the kids,

00:15:46.500 arguing in favor of the law banning transing the kids.

00:15:49.120 And here is the best argument that Sotomayor could muster.

00:15:53.300 Cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. 1.00

00:15:56.080 So it becomes a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk.

00:16:01.640 And the question of how many minors have to have their bodies irreparably harmed

00:16:06.380 for unproven benefits is one that is best left.

00:16:09.540 I'm sorry, Counselor.

00:16:11.440 Every medical treatment has a risk.

00:16:15.360 Even taking aspirin.

00:16:18.200 There is always going to be a percentage of the population

00:16:22.480 under any medical treatment that's going to suffer.

00:16:25.040 I'm sorry, Counsel.

00:16:27.640 I have to interrupt here.

00:16:30.660 Do you not understand that gelding a little child,

00:16:36.440 permanently sterilizing a child,

00:16:38.900 turning a kid into a eunuch starting at age 11,

00:16:42.320 and giving them bone problems,

00:16:44.580 and failing to ameliorate,

00:16:46.900 and perhaps even exacerbating the child's anxiety,

00:16:49.820 depression, and likelihood of suicide is similar to taking an aspirin.

00:16:58.020 How do you not understand that, Counsel?

00:17:00.960 This is the best they got.

00:17:02.100 I think this woman went to Yale Law School. 1.00

00:17:04.140 I think she did, didn't it, Sotomayor?

00:17:07.020 That is weak sauce.

00:17:08.660 And don't even get me started on Ketanji Jackson,

00:17:11.060 the most recent leftist justice,

00:17:12.800 who boasts two degrees from Harvard,

00:17:15.000 and yet who, during her confirmation hearings,

00:17:17.820 couldn't say what a woman is. 1.00

00:17:19.340 When she was asked by Marsha Blackburn,

00:17:21.680 what is a woman, 1.00

00:17:22.740 she said, well, I'm not a biologist.

00:17:26.240 You know, I'm not a weatherman,

00:17:27.480 but I know which way the wind's blowing, okay?

00:17:30.040 You shouldn't really need all that specialized training

00:17:32.500 to know what a woman is.

00:17:34.040 But this is what really cuts to the heart of this case.

00:17:37.380 The oral arguments went very well for the conservatives,

00:17:39.800 but the whole thing really seems like a charade to me,

00:17:43.480 because there are certain matters

00:17:46.380 for which argumentation and the presentation of evidence

00:17:51.860 and persuasive rhetoric

00:17:54.000 really conduce to get you to a certain conclusion.

00:17:59.000 What is a woman, 1.00

00:18:00.060 which is really what this case is about,

00:18:01.440 what is a woman is not one of those questions.

00:18:04.300 What is a woman is a question 1.00

00:18:06.800 that actually precedes argument.

00:18:09.800 What is a woman is a question 1.00

00:18:12.840 that really is closer to a premise,

00:18:15.960 or the answer to which is really closer

00:18:17.520 to a premise than a conclusion.

00:18:19.880 It's closer to a first principle

00:18:21.540 than something that we deduce

00:18:23.180 using our rational faculties.

00:18:25.220 Sometimes people will say,

00:18:26.420 well, a woman is an adult human female, 1.00

00:18:28.620 you know, and give you a knowing, wry wink.

00:18:31.080 But that answer is unsatisfactory.

00:18:33.460 The real answer is,

00:18:34.380 a woman is the kind of person 1.00

00:18:36.200 who isn't a man.

00:18:37.880 You know, the real answer is, 1.00

00:18:39.480 shut up, you know what a woman is. 1.00

00:18:41.800 That's actually the answer. 1.00

00:18:44.480 We have to begin.

00:18:46.120 It's the sort of thing

00:18:47.460 that Supreme Court oral arguments

00:18:49.440 and deliberations need to just presume.

00:18:52.140 And I'll show you why.

00:18:53.100 In the transcript,

00:18:54.360 obviously I listened to much of this oral argument,

00:18:57.240 but the way that I found the really juicy parts

00:18:59.460 was I read through the transcript.

00:19:00.880 And in the transcript,

00:19:02.700 this person,

00:19:04.460 this trans-identifying lawyer,

00:19:05.700 who's a woman who pretends to be a man, 0.92

00:19:07.300 is referred to as Mr. Strangio.

00:19:09.440 That's a problem.

00:19:10.940 That means that the Supreme Court

00:19:12.340 is beginning by accepting the premise

00:19:15.060 that a man can be a woman

00:19:16.500 and a woman can be a man. 1.00

00:19:17.900 But that's really the matter

00:19:18.920 that's being debated.

00:19:20.300 Ultimately here,

00:19:21.640 everyone's pretending

00:19:22.560 that that's not the matter

00:19:23.480 that's being debated

00:19:24.160 because Tennessee is trying 1.00

00:19:25.540 to narrowly define this

00:19:26.760 as a matter of only transing the kids

00:19:29.420 and the federal government

00:19:31.140 is trying to define this

00:19:33.340 also somewhat narrowly

00:19:34.740 as a medical matter

00:19:35.900 and as a matter of anti-discrimination.

00:19:38.200 But what we're not talking about

00:19:40.880 is the giant elephant in the room,

00:19:42.360 which is the absurd premise

00:19:44.320 that a man can become a woman 0.95

00:19:46.040 and a woman can become a man. 0.98

00:19:47.880 And unfortunately,

00:19:48.620 the Supreme Court

00:19:49.120 is just presuming that.

00:19:50.180 By referring to this woman

00:19:51.320 as Mr. Strangio,

00:19:53.580 you're accepting that.

00:19:54.440 By using the preferred pronouns

00:19:56.160 of deluded people,

00:19:57.540 you are implicitly accepting

00:19:59.440 transgender ideology.

00:20:00.940 Even by using phrases

00:20:01.980 like biological man

00:20:03.820 or biological woman,

00:20:05.020 you are implicitly accepting

00:20:06.380 that there's some other kind of man

00:20:07.660 or some other kind of woman. 1.00

00:20:08.460 You're implicitly acceding 0.57

00:20:10.160 to transgenderism.

00:20:11.780 And that's a big, big problem.

00:20:13.400 So look, we're called to be

00:20:15.100 wise as serpents

00:20:16.080 and innocent as doves.

00:20:17.120 I think the justices,

00:20:18.500 the conservative justices

00:20:19.340 did a really good job here.

00:20:21.040 I think even the liberal media

00:20:22.320 are going to give up

00:20:23.000 on this case probably.

00:20:24.140 It's just the notion that

00:20:26.140 gelding children 0.98

00:20:28.060 is somehow a constitutional right

00:20:30.300 and states don't have a right

00:20:31.400 to pass laws against it.

00:20:32.540 I think it's too far 0.98

00:20:33.860 even for our lunatics 1.00

00:20:34.940 and perverts 1.00

00:20:35.540 who run our country today. 0.98

00:20:37.320 But this is bad

00:20:40.180 that we even have to debate this.

00:20:41.740 And it's really bad

00:20:42.420 that we are debating this

00:20:43.180 on terms that are favorable too,

00:20:45.780 that are implicitly accepting

00:20:47.060 the premises of transgenderism.

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00:20:52.300 the CEO of United Healthcare,

00:20:54.800 Brian Thompson,

00:20:55.520 was just murdered blocks away

00:20:57.860 from where I was staying

00:20:58.640 in New York yesterday.

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00:22:04.860 You know,

00:22:05.360 I have this series,

00:22:06.300 a little side hustle

00:22:07.080 called Michael And,

00:22:08.080 where I sit down

00:22:08.740 for long conversations

00:22:10.100 and the episodes

00:22:12.000 have millions and millions

00:22:12.800 of views.

00:22:13.220 People seem interested in them

00:22:14.260 because they're not

00:22:15.020 just really news of the day.

00:22:16.160 They're delving into

00:22:17.200 far deeper matters.

00:22:18.940 Well,

00:22:19.200 in one of the most popular

00:22:20.100 episodes we've ever done,

00:22:21.120 I sat down with Blake Healy,

00:22:22.580 who is the author

00:22:23.380 of a best-selling book,

00:22:24.540 The Veil,

00:22:25.280 who claims to be able

00:22:26.500 to see things

00:22:27.380 in the spiritual world,

00:22:28.880 including angels and demons.

00:22:31.020 Here is what he had to say.

00:22:33.760 I'd see angels and demons

00:22:35.320 in about equal measure.

00:22:36.760 There was this sense

00:22:37.320 of separation.

00:22:38.640 And even though I could

00:22:39.260 identify how that's something

00:22:40.200 that might be scary,

00:22:41.360 there wasn't any sense

00:22:42.220 of immediate danger.

00:22:43.280 I looked up,

00:22:44.240 and instead of my mom,

00:22:44.940 I saw this just kind of shadow.

00:22:46.540 As soon as I looked at it,

00:22:47.440 it's kind of slunked

00:22:48.560 into the crack,

00:22:49.740 walked around

00:22:50.260 to the edge of my bed.

00:22:51.240 It kind of had these

00:22:52.000 milky white eyes.

00:22:53.600 Its eyes flashed,

00:22:55.980 and I felt this

00:22:57.100 overwhelming sense of fear.

00:22:58.980 Absolute panic

00:22:59.940 was just going

00:23:01.320 through my body.

00:23:02.160 It happened night

00:23:02.820 after night after night

00:23:04.040 for three and a half years.

00:23:05.980 You have this question,

00:23:07.340 which is,

00:23:08.140 am I a highly

00:23:09.000 functioning schizophrenic?

00:23:10.760 They talked to me

00:23:11.460 about this concept

00:23:12.120 that I hadn't heard of before,

00:23:13.480 that they called

00:23:14.420 seeing in the spirit.

00:23:15.700 Something in that recipe

00:23:17.320 of expanding the options

00:23:19.780 from either I'm going crazy

00:23:21.440 or the devil's decided

00:23:22.380 to ruin my life

00:23:23.240 to this third option

00:23:24.700 of maybe I have a gift

00:23:26.000 that I just haven't learned

00:23:26.980 how to manage yet.

00:23:28.400 This is your daily experience.

00:23:30.200 It is.

00:23:31.020 Do you see these things now?

00:23:32.260 Like right now?

00:23:33.460 While we're talking

00:23:34.200 at this very moment.

00:23:35.140 What do you see?

00:23:35.760 Right now,

00:23:36.340 I can see your personal angel

00:23:38.160 standing right behind you,

00:23:39.380 just behind your left shoulder.

00:23:41.340 Watch the full episode

00:23:49.100 to find out

00:23:49.680 do you believe him?

00:23:50.480 Do you not believe him?

00:23:51.800 If you do believe him,

00:23:52.780 what does it all mean?

00:23:53.520 Watch it on

00:23:54.560 the Michael Wells YouTube channel

00:23:55.720 and do not forget

00:23:57.040 to subscribe

00:23:57.580 for the ad-free version

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00:24:02.300 Turning to macabre matters,

00:24:04.420 the CEO of UnitedHealthcare,

00:24:06.260 Brian Thompson,

00:24:07.020 was murdered

00:24:07.640 up by Rockefeller Plaza.

00:24:09.340 I was in Rockefeller Plaza

00:24:10.860 four days ago.

00:24:12.820 I was over the last weekend.

00:24:14.300 I was in Rockefeller Plaza,

00:24:15.640 came back to Tennessee.

00:24:17.120 Then I flew back to New York

00:24:18.680 and I was staying

00:24:19.720 just some blocks down,

00:24:21.260 but not too far

00:24:22.200 from where this guy was murdered.

00:24:24.740 And when I heard he was murdered,

00:24:26.260 I thought, wow,

00:24:27.220 usually I stay a little

00:24:27.940 further uptown.

00:24:28.540 I said, wow,

00:24:29.260 good thing I didn't stay

00:24:30.080 in my usual spot

00:24:31.040 because had I,

00:24:32.460 I don't know,

00:24:32.920 I might have been near

00:24:33.620 the scene of a shooting.

00:24:34.620 But then when I saw the video,

00:24:36.320 I realized I could have been

00:24:37.680 standing right next to that guy.

00:24:38.980 The killer would not have

00:24:41.040 harmed a hair on my head

00:24:42.300 because this was very obviously

00:24:44.280 a targeted killing.

00:24:45.800 I think it took place

00:24:46.460 about a quarter of 7 a.m.

00:24:49.220 outside the Hilton

00:24:50.620 by Rockefeller Plaza.

00:24:52.140 And you can see

00:24:53.220 the CEO of UnitedHealthcare

00:24:54.920 is walking up

00:24:55.980 wearing a nice blue jacket.

00:24:59.240 And then a killer

00:25:00.160 shows up behind him, 0.99

00:25:01.180 all black,

00:25:02.020 hood on, 0.86

00:25:03.020 pulls out a gun.

00:25:03.840 And some are reporting

00:25:04.860 it was a subsonic rounds

00:25:08.060 with a suppressor on it, 0.99

00:25:10.000 just shoots the guy. 1.00

00:25:11.000 And then he just keeps walking.

00:25:13.620 So the CEO goes down,

00:25:15.100 he just keeps walking,

00:25:16.000 apparently hopped on a city bike,

00:25:17.740 rode up towards Central Park,

00:25:19.000 and as of airtime,

00:25:21.700 has still not been caught.

00:25:24.460 Then I was flying out

00:25:25.340 of New York yesterday,

00:25:26.440 a lot of cops

00:25:26.940 all over the airport,

00:25:27.840 probably assuming this guy

00:25:28.800 was going to get away.

00:25:29.680 It would seem as though

00:25:31.140 this guy could have been

00:25:33.100 a hitman.

00:25:34.100 It looked like

00:25:34.900 a pretty professional job.

00:25:36.160 Some are arguing

00:25:36.700 it wasn't a totally

00:25:37.400 professional job.

00:25:38.260 I don't know,

00:25:38.660 it looked pretty good to me.

00:25:39.540 The fact that this guy

00:25:40.220 still hasn't been caught,

00:25:41.900 that he got away

00:25:43.200 from the scene rather quickly,

00:25:44.320 that he targeted him,

00:25:46.540 seems like a professional

00:25:47.840 contract killing to me.

00:25:49.620 But then the question is,

00:25:50.680 why was this healthcare CEO killed?

00:25:53.660 Some suggested,

00:25:54.900 and my mind went here

00:25:55.700 at first too,

00:25:56.560 maybe it's because

00:25:57.640 UnitedHealthcare

00:25:58.860 denies people's insurance claims,

00:26:00.880 maybe some family member

00:26:02.040 had a claim denied,

00:26:03.300 maybe a family ended up

00:26:04.240 in a ton of medical debt,

00:26:05.160 maybe a family member

00:26:05.900 ended up dead,

00:26:06.940 and someone was just

00:26:08.080 exacting revenge

00:26:09.640 on this CEO.

00:26:12.120 Could be,

00:26:12.700 plenty of people

00:26:13.120 have an ax to grind

00:26:13.860 with medical insurance CEOs.

00:26:15.780 But then I saw this part.

00:26:18.580 Apparently,

00:26:19.140 Brian Thompson

00:26:19.800 was one of several

00:26:20.840 senior executives

00:26:22.040 at UnitedHealthcare

00:26:23.580 who was under investigation

00:26:25.440 by the DOJ.

00:26:26.500 because on February 16th,

00:26:30.180 he exercised stock options

00:26:31.880 and sold shares

00:26:32.560 worth over 15 million bucks.

00:26:34.760 That was less than two weeks

00:26:36.560 before news of this

00:26:37.940 federal antitrust investigation

00:26:39.720 went public.

00:26:40.740 That's according to

00:26:41.240 Crane's New York

00:26:41.800 business report.

00:26:43.220 It wasn't just him.

00:26:45.340 UnitedHealth Group

00:26:46.040 chairman Stephen Helmsley,

00:26:48.060 chief people officer,

00:26:49.440 whatever that is,

00:26:50.280 Aaron McSweeney,

00:26:51.140 and chief accounting officer,

00:26:52.840 Tom Roos,

00:26:53.800 sold a combined

00:26:54.860 $101.5 million

00:26:57.500 worth of shares.

00:27:00.080 Helmsley,

00:27:00.820 the chairman,

00:27:01.760 netted $85 million

00:27:02.920 according to the report.

00:27:03.920 So it does seem like

00:27:04.880 there was

00:27:05.240 an intense amount

00:27:06.860 of insider trading

00:27:07.780 going on here.

00:27:09.060 So then why was he murdered?

00:27:10.200 Was he murdered

00:27:10.680 because of a vengeful

00:27:12.540 customer

00:27:14.160 who was jilted

00:27:15.400 by the company?

00:27:16.180 Or was he murdered

00:27:17.120 perhaps because

00:27:17.800 there was this antitrust probe

00:27:18.880 and maybe this guy

00:27:19.800 knew a little bit too much?

00:27:22.080 Seems to me,

00:27:23.000 having read all of that

00:27:23.780 on the insider trading,

00:27:25.080 it is much more likely

00:27:26.160 to be the latter case.

00:27:27.220 Why do I bring up

00:27:27.700 the story at all?

00:27:29.040 It's tabloid fodder.

00:27:30.360 It's interesting.

00:27:31.020 It's a murder story.

00:27:31.880 It's grisly.

00:27:32.820 I bring it up

00:27:33.520 just as a matter

00:27:35.100 of political thinking

00:27:36.360 applicable

00:27:38.000 to any number

00:27:39.620 of political matters.

00:27:41.540 It's usually wise

00:27:42.840 to follow the incentives.

00:27:45.000 If you want to figure out

00:27:46.140 what's going on,

00:27:46.860 if you want to figure out

00:27:47.640 why someone did something,

00:27:49.260 it's usually

00:27:52.020 more effective.

00:27:53.200 Rather than thinking

00:27:53.940 in all sorts of abstract,

00:27:55.280 abstruse philosophy

00:27:56.280 or ideology,

00:27:57.380 it's usually a little bit clearer

00:27:58.880 just to follow

00:27:59.560 the incentives.

00:28:01.480 And as of now,

00:28:02.900 if I were looking

00:28:04.380 and if I were a cop,

00:28:05.360 I'm not a cop,

00:28:05.860 if I were a detective,

00:28:06.740 I would probably focus

00:28:08.420 on the money.

00:28:11.120 Now, speaking of incentives

00:28:13.020 and disincentives,

00:28:14.140 some really,

00:28:15.200 really great news

00:28:16.020 coming out

00:28:16.700 of the Trump transition.

00:28:18.700 You might recall

00:28:19.760 that some weeks ago

00:28:21.980 on the show,

00:28:22.480 I said that the next

00:28:24.940 White House press secretary

00:28:26.180 should rip up

00:28:28.000 the White House seating chart

00:28:29.820 and replace it.

00:28:31.800 Not only because

00:28:32.860 the establishment media

00:28:34.360 lie and don't have credibility,

00:28:36.280 but also because increasingly

00:28:37.480 they don't have an audience.

00:28:38.840 MSNBC gets like

00:28:39.880 three viewers a night

00:28:40.860 and is being spun off.

00:28:42.640 It's on the chopping block.

00:28:43.880 CNN is dealing

00:28:45.820 with massive problems,

00:28:47.200 massive layoffs,

00:28:48.160 a huge collapse in ratings.

00:28:50.400 The New York Times,

00:28:51.060 the Washington Post

00:28:51.620 admit that this was

00:28:52.180 the podcast election

00:28:53.260 and that the streamers

00:28:54.840 and the podcasters

00:28:55.560 and the new media

00:28:56.300 really came into their own

00:28:57.840 and the establishment media

00:28:58.800 were on their heels.

00:29:00.120 Washington Post said

00:29:00.880 that new media

00:29:02.520 are eating the old media's lunch.

00:29:04.540 So my conclusion from that was,

00:29:06.380 all right,

00:29:06.600 not even just to be vindictive,

00:29:08.900 though maybe there's

00:29:09.420 a little bit of that,

00:29:10.240 but also just because

00:29:11.740 the purpose of the White House briefing

00:29:13.220 is to communicate

00:29:14.140 what's going on at the White House

00:29:15.120 to the American people

00:29:16.180 to receive the questions

00:29:17.600 from the American people

00:29:18.440 through the media

00:29:19.060 that they trust

00:29:19.940 and that they listen to

00:29:20.960 because of that,

00:29:22.200 it makes no sense

00:29:23.260 to have CNN in the front row.

00:29:24.620 It makes no sense

00:29:25.660 to have the New York Times

00:29:27.040 maybe anywhere in the room,

00:29:28.720 but certainly up toward

00:29:29.500 the top of the room,

00:29:30.180 it makes no sense

00:29:30.840 for MSNBC to have a chair. 0.98

00:29:32.880 You got to redo

00:29:34.240 the seating chart.

00:29:35.580 So I called for that,

00:29:36.940 made a little bit of news.

00:29:38.260 Then I was on Don Jr.'s show,

00:29:40.840 mentioned this.

00:29:41.980 Don suggested, actually,

00:29:44.740 that he had talked

00:29:45.740 to his father

00:29:46.140 about the matter

00:29:46.800 and his father

00:29:47.520 was amenable to it.

00:29:48.720 Now we're getting

00:29:49.340 a report in The Hill

00:29:51.260 that it looks like

00:29:53.220 it's going to happen.

00:29:53.780 White House press corps

00:29:55.040 recoils at Trump's threat

00:29:56.180 to shake up

00:29:57.220 the briefing room.

00:29:58.880 People close to Trump,

00:30:00.000 writes The Hill,

00:30:01.560 have said in recent days

00:30:02.540 he should dramatically change

00:30:03.600 who gets access

00:30:04.120 to the president,

00:30:04.740 suggesting podcasters,

00:30:05.720 internet personalities,

00:30:06.500 and media deemed

00:30:06.980 more friendly to him

00:30:07.800 could replace outlets

00:30:08.520 like major television networks.

00:30:09.840 Okay, hold on.

00:30:11.660 It's not just media

00:30:13.660 that are more friendly to him.

00:30:15.160 That is not what we said.

00:30:17.020 I've been pretty close

00:30:17.980 to the center of this story,

00:30:19.020 so I know once I speak.

00:30:21.540 What has been said

00:30:22.480 is that media

00:30:23.440 that have more credibility

00:30:25.460 and a wider reach

00:30:28.120 and a deeper reach,

00:30:29.380 those are the outlets

00:30:30.340 that should be there.

00:30:31.080 It's not just a matter

00:30:32.160 of personal petty grievances.

00:30:35.240 This is a matter of justice,

00:30:37.300 and this is a matter

00:30:38.200 of practicality.

00:30:40.840 What media are actually

00:30:42.240 reaching the people?

00:30:43.120 That's who you should prioritize.

00:30:45.700 Could replace outlets

00:30:46.700 like major television networks,

00:30:47.900 The New York Times,

00:30:48.460 The Washington Post,

00:30:49.080 and The Room's front rows.

00:30:49.840 Reporters covering the White House

00:30:50.740 in conversations

00:30:51.740 with The Hill this week

00:30:52.760 described a feeling

00:30:53.680 of annoyance, frustration,

00:30:55.780 and dread at such an idea.

00:30:57.600 Yes, they should feel dread

00:30:59.120 because it means

00:31:00.540 that they're totally undeserved

00:31:03.140 monopoly on political discourse,

00:31:05.560 on the public square,

00:31:06.380 the public square,

00:31:07.360 which is where politics happens

00:31:09.060 in a self-governing republic,

00:31:10.440 that that might be coming to an end.

00:31:11.900 This is one of the most important things

00:31:14.000 the Trump administration could do.

00:31:16.720 We said from the beginning,

00:31:18.520 Trump is already looking

00:31:19.300 to reset the relationship

00:31:20.440 between the citizen

00:31:21.660 and the federal government.

00:31:23.260 Great.

00:31:24.080 That's good.

00:31:24.540 That's a big part of Elon Musk

00:31:25.980 and Vivek coming in

00:31:27.260 with the Department

00:31:28.240 of Government Efficiency.

00:31:29.580 But perhaps just as important,

00:31:31.860 perhaps more important,

00:31:33.300 is Trump's once-in-a-century,

00:31:37.020 at least once-in-a-generation

00:31:38.080 opportunity,

00:31:38.860 to reset the relationship

00:31:40.160 between the citizen

00:31:42.260 and the media,

00:31:43.800 and the relationship

00:31:44.960 between the media

00:31:45.800 and the White House.

00:31:48.080 Media really, really matter.

00:31:50.440 Media is the plural of medium.

00:31:52.380 It is the medium

00:31:53.180 through which

00:31:54.300 the citizens

00:31:55.520 relate to their government.

00:31:57.960 And that medium,

00:31:59.840 those media,

00:32:00.920 have become

00:32:01.580 very, very corrupt.

00:32:04.040 And usually, 0.69

00:32:05.080 they're just too strong

00:32:05.900 for us to do anything about it.

00:32:07.100 But they're weak right now. 1.00

00:32:08.260 And we've got to kick them 1.00

00:32:09.140 while they're down. 0.98

00:32:10.080 And we need to replace them

00:32:11.520 with better media

00:32:12.660 who will do a better job

00:32:13.900 serving the function

00:32:14.780 that they're supposed to serve.

00:32:16.140 Really, really

00:32:16.960 encouraging stuff.

00:32:19.800 Now,

00:32:21.020 speaking of the Libs

00:32:22.340 admitting defeat

00:32:23.460 or the likelihood of defeat,

00:32:24.840 Politico has a rather

00:32:26.440 interesting story out right now.

00:32:29.200 Joe Biden is considering

00:32:30.500 blanket pardons

00:32:32.040 for some of his top allies,

00:32:34.140 not only in the executive branch,

00:32:36.240 not only in the executive agencies,

00:32:37.740 but also even electeds

00:32:40.140 in Congress.

00:32:40.900 The deliberations

00:32:43.240 touch on pardoning

00:32:44.400 those currently in office

00:32:45.380 elected and appointed,

00:32:46.300 as well as former officials

00:32:47.640 who've angered Trump

00:32:48.380 and his loyalists.

00:32:50.060 Those who could face exposure

00:32:51.780 include such members

00:32:53.040 of Congress as January 6th.

00:32:54.340 Oh, sorry.

00:32:56.960 January 6th!

00:32:58.480 The worst day in the history

00:32:59.300 of this or any republic committee.

00:33:01.260 As Senator-elect Adam Schiff,

00:33:04.260 former GOP representative

00:33:06.060 Liz Cheney of Wyoming,

00:33:07.260 Trump has previously said

00:33:09.760 Liz Cheney should go to jail 1.00

00:33:12.560 along with the rest

00:33:13.260 of the unselect committee.

00:33:14.560 Also mentioned by Biden's

00:33:15.600 aides for a part

00:33:16.040 is Anthony Fauci,

00:33:16.980 former head of the NIH,

00:33:18.280 or sorry,

00:33:18.580 former head of the

00:33:19.480 National Institute of Allergy

00:33:21.000 and Infectious Diseases,

00:33:22.340 a top official at the NIH

00:33:23.460 who became a lightning rod

00:33:24.920 for criticism from the right

00:33:26.160 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:33:27.820 There we go.

00:33:28.120 They even get a little

00:33:28.660 right pounces in there,

00:33:30.580 even at the end.

00:33:31.160 It's not that Anthony Fauci

00:33:32.160 lied to us consistently

00:33:33.420 and screwed up our country 0.94

00:33:34.480 for years and not only

00:33:38.440 got things wrong,

00:33:39.600 but intentionally hid information

00:33:41.640 and was deceptive

00:33:42.700 and had lots of consequences

00:33:43.860 to that.

00:33:44.480 No, no, no.

00:33:44.880 It's that he was a lightning rod

00:33:47.480 for criticism.

00:33:49.340 He became a,

00:33:50.080 hey, hey, Politico,

00:33:51.640 how did he become

00:33:52.720 a lightning rod for criticism?

00:33:54.380 Where did all the criticism

00:33:55.680 come from?

00:33:56.800 Was it just these irrational

00:33:58.020 conservatives who decided

00:33:59.800 one day to criticize?

00:34:00.980 No, perhaps he deserved criticism.

00:34:02.920 Liz Cheney,

00:34:04.940 Adam Schiff,

00:34:05.500 the January 6th committee.

00:34:08.580 Why would President Trump

00:34:09.960 maybe take issue

00:34:11.200 with the January 6th committee?

00:34:12.460 Is it because

00:34:13.220 the January 6th committee

00:34:14.580 knowingly hid evidence

00:34:16.540 that helped to exonerate

00:34:19.260 President Trump?

00:34:20.280 Is it because

00:34:20.940 the January 6th committee

00:34:22.540 targeted the president

00:34:25.580 in a way that was

00:34:27.040 deeply unjust,

00:34:28.200 that maybe they even

00:34:29.080 committed some crimes in there?

00:34:30.900 Did they do anything?

00:34:32.920 To attract this criticism,

00:34:34.080 I think probably they did.

00:34:35.180 So, Biden,

00:34:37.120 after pardoning Hunter

00:34:38.480 for any crimes

00:34:39.500 that he did

00:34:40.200 or did not

00:34:40.940 or might have committed

00:34:41.900 from just before

00:34:43.520 he got on the board

00:34:44.360 of Burisma

00:34:44.880 and took a bunch

00:34:45.580 of bribes from Ukraine

00:34:46.620 to sell Joe Biden

00:34:47.880 state influence

00:34:48.680 all the way up

00:34:49.660 until December 1st

00:34:50.840 of this year,

00:34:52.260 right after that blanket

00:34:53.280 unprecedented presidential pardon,

00:34:55.240 now Biden's going to

00:34:55.980 pardon all of his other friends

00:34:57.000 for any crimes

00:34:58.480 that they may have committed.

00:34:59.640 The question I have is,

00:35:01.300 is this the new normal?

00:35:03.440 This is just what we do now?

00:35:05.620 We just have to pardon?

00:35:07.020 The president has to pardon

00:35:08.460 everyone around him

00:35:10.340 whom the next administration

00:35:12.140 might go after?

00:35:14.500 Yikes.

00:35:15.160 That is bad news bears, man.

00:35:17.420 That is not good.

00:35:18.680 That is banana republic 0.98

00:35:20.020 kind of stuff.

00:35:21.400 That is tin pot dictatorship

00:35:23.680 kind of stuff.

00:35:24.120 But I get it.

00:35:25.060 I get why Biden

00:35:25.880 would be doing it

00:35:26.520 because he reduced America

00:35:28.320 to a tin pot dictatorship

00:35:29.480 and a banana republic.

00:35:31.480 Before Joe Biden,

00:35:32.940 we didn't prosecute

00:35:34.080 former presidents.

00:35:35.500 Before Joe Biden,

00:35:36.660 we didn't prosecute

00:35:37.680 the leader of the opposition.

00:35:39.820 Joe Biden

00:35:40.520 and the Democrats

00:35:41.460 gave us that.

00:35:43.480 So I can't even say,

00:35:44.920 look, cut it out.

00:35:46.560 Trump won't investigate

00:35:47.940 these people

00:35:48.620 who upended

00:35:49.860 200 years of our,

00:35:51.320 more than 200 years

00:35:52.380 of our tradition.

00:35:53.540 These people

00:35:54.200 who led

00:35:55.360 a legal insurrection

00:35:56.720 of our country

00:35:57.340 far more significant

00:35:58.300 than whatever

00:35:58.680 the horn hat guy

00:35:59.380 did on January 6th.

00:36:01.100 No, I'm not going

00:36:01.700 to tell Trump,

00:36:02.240 don't do that.

00:36:03.840 The Democrats

00:36:04.700 did something

00:36:06.300 egregiously wrong.

00:36:08.820 And if we don't

00:36:10.640 want that to happen again,

00:36:11.520 we probably need

00:36:12.220 to hold them to account.

00:36:14.000 And what Joe Biden

00:36:15.040 is going to do

00:36:15.440 to protect himself

00:36:16.140 and his friends

00:36:16.680 is he's probably

00:36:18.180 going to further

00:36:19.320 degrade America 0.67

00:36:20.300 into resembling

00:36:21.420 a banana republic.

00:36:22.880 He's going to take

00:36:24.000 his actions

00:36:25.260 all the way

00:36:25.820 to their logical conclusion.

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00:36:58.560 My favorite comment

00:36:59.500 yesterday is from

00:36:59.980 Cheryl Calogero.

00:37:02.160 Calogero?

00:37:02.740 I don't know.

00:37:03.480 Who at 3330

00:37:04.480 says,

00:37:04.900 Michael,

00:37:05.160 I love your studio.

00:37:06.160 The decor is very masculine.

00:37:08.020 Fits you beautifully.

00:37:09.340 Great design job.

00:37:10.380 Thank you very much.

00:37:11.140 I can't take too much credit

00:37:12.240 for the design

00:37:13.300 in my studio.

00:37:14.440 I perhaps served

00:37:15.980 as an inspiration

00:37:16.760 for it,

00:37:17.460 but it was our

00:37:18.040 excellent designer,

00:37:19.480 Carol and Ralph

00:37:20.740 and other people

00:37:21.440 who really made it happen.

00:37:24.020 I mostly just served

00:37:25.420 to veto things,

00:37:26.560 but I didn't even have

00:37:27.420 to veto very much.

00:37:28.280 They did a great job.

00:37:29.340 And then while I was

00:37:30.140 in New York,

00:37:31.040 what did my producers do?

00:37:33.120 They decked the halls

00:37:34.260 for Christmas.

00:37:35.340 And now,

00:37:36.540 you know my views on this.

00:37:38.360 I'm very against

00:37:39.360 Advent erasure.

00:37:41.420 Okay,

00:37:41.680 we need to make America

00:37:42.400 great again,

00:37:42.860 make America healthy again,

00:37:43.780 make Advent solemn again.

00:37:45.820 So,

00:37:46.980 what do I make of my,

00:37:48.020 it looks nice,

00:37:48.940 what they did.

00:37:49.560 For those of you

00:37:50.120 only listening,

00:37:50.740 they put my,

00:37:51.640 they put stockings up

00:37:52.780 with Michael,

00:37:54.840 Ben,

00:37:55.220 Markella,

00:37:55.660 and Jacob on it.

00:37:56.520 They put up

00:37:57.120 little festive bells

00:37:59.060 and little Michael ornaments

00:38:00.520 and holly,

00:38:01.600 and I don't think

00:38:02.000 there's any mistletoe in here.

00:38:04.100 I really,

00:38:04.300 I really hope

00:38:05.520 there's no mistletoe in here

00:38:06.620 when, you know,

00:38:07.140 the producers come in.

00:38:08.540 However,

00:38:09.080 what does that mean?

00:38:09.820 It means that they

00:38:10.980 put up a lot

00:38:12.120 of Advent decorations.

00:38:13.060 So,

00:38:13.800 thank you for the Advent decorations.

00:38:15.520 It's beautiful.

00:38:16.700 This feels very sober

00:38:18.660 and solemn

00:38:19.340 and looks really nice.

00:38:22.260 Now,

00:38:23.000 we have got

00:38:24.560 some tea

00:38:25.560 to spill.

00:38:26.360 The other day,

00:38:26.840 I spilled my

00:38:27.760 fruity seltzer.

00:38:29.360 I am about to spill

00:38:30.320 some tea.

00:38:34.780 There is a rumor

00:38:35.940 going around

00:38:36.620 Washington, D.C.

00:38:37.500 that Trump

00:38:38.020 is going to pull

00:38:38.740 his support

00:38:39.240 for Pete Hegseth

00:38:39.900 for defense secretary

00:38:40.840 and swap him out

00:38:42.580 for Ron DeSantis.

00:38:45.500 I'm going to say

00:38:46.180 at the outset here.

00:38:48.880 I like Ron DeSantis.

00:38:50.080 I think Ron DeSantis

00:38:50.700 is extremely intelligent,

00:38:52.040 extremely competent.

00:38:52.900 He could do

00:38:53.260 pretty much any job

00:38:54.080 in the entire government

00:38:54.900 in the country.

00:38:55.600 He'd do great at it.

00:38:56.880 This is in no way

00:38:57.820 a reflection

00:38:58.280 of DeSantis' qualifications.

00:38:59.940 He's more than qualified.

00:39:02.680 If I were President Trump,

00:39:03.980 I would not back off

00:39:04.940 Pete Hegseth.

00:39:06.860 I really,

00:39:08.140 really like

00:39:08.620 Pete Hegseth.

00:39:09.260 I think Pete Hegseth

00:39:10.480 would do a terrific job

00:39:11.960 as the Secretary of Defense.

00:39:14.180 I think Pete Hegseth

00:39:14.920 is already doing wonders.

00:39:16.100 I think his nomination

00:39:16.820 is already doing wonders

00:39:17.740 for military recruitment

00:39:19.160 and military morale.

00:39:21.040 I think that the attacks

00:39:22.740 on Pete Hegseth

00:39:23.400 are in part

00:39:24.600 dishonest

00:39:25.700 and in other parts

00:39:27.440 exaggerated

00:39:28.160 and leading to

00:39:29.400 selective outrage.

00:39:30.980 The real attack

00:39:31.980 on Pete Hegseth

00:39:32.640 is that

00:39:33.420 some years ago

00:39:34.280 he was a Cazanova.

00:39:36.220 That some years ago

00:39:37.340 he was a ladies' man.

00:39:39.080 He hasn't

00:39:39.820 really hid that fact.

00:39:41.260 I think it's been

00:39:41.680 pretty public

00:39:42.180 for a while

00:39:43.140 and though now

00:39:44.520 he's not that way,

00:39:45.520 he used to be that way

00:39:46.540 and that's disqualifying.

00:39:49.520 Democrats would never

00:39:50.360 apply that standard

00:39:51.080 to any of their own people.

00:39:52.680 They're trying to accuse him

00:39:53.680 of rape,

00:39:54.240 that there's zero evidence

00:39:55.280 for that.

00:39:55.760 That's totally out the window.

00:39:57.220 So if I were President Trump,

00:39:58.800 I would not back off

00:40:00.200 the Hegseth nomination

00:40:01.160 because

00:40:02.040 if he backs off

00:40:03.160 the Hegseth nomination,

00:40:04.620 then they're just going to go

00:40:06.340 after Bobby Kennedy.

00:40:07.340 And if he backs off

00:40:08.400 the Bobby Kennedy nomination,

00:40:09.580 they're just going to go

00:40:10.140 after Tulsi.

00:40:10.940 And if he backs off

00:40:11.760 the Tulsi nomination,

00:40:12.720 they're going to go

00:40:13.080 after the next person.

00:40:14.300 And they're going to,

00:40:14.880 at a certain point,

00:40:16.000 they're just going to sense

00:40:17.220 there's so much blood

00:40:17.960 in the water

00:40:18.440 that the Democrats

00:40:19.200 and the squishes

00:40:19.800 can go after

00:40:20.300 any of Trump's nominees.

00:40:21.460 So if I were President Trump,

00:40:23.100 I would stick it out

00:40:25.200 because I think,

00:40:26.440 one,

00:40:26.720 I really like Pete

00:40:27.620 and two,

00:40:28.460 I think that Pete

00:40:29.360 can get through.

00:40:31.240 But let's say

00:40:32.160 that they're trying

00:40:32.820 to work out a deal.

00:40:33.700 What does that deal look like?

00:40:35.000 I mentioned earlier

00:40:35.720 in the show

00:40:36.100 when I was talking about

00:40:36.600 the murder in New York.

00:40:38.140 You've got to follow incentives.

00:40:40.220 If you want to understand

00:40:41.100 how machinations

00:40:41.960 are going down,

00:40:43.760 ideology can be helpful,

00:40:45.880 but cold hard incentives

00:40:48.060 can sometimes be more helpful.

00:40:49.880 And here's this little story.

00:40:51.660 It came out of the Bulwark.

00:40:52.900 This is an outlet

00:40:54.840 that I do not usually read,

00:40:56.080 but it's instructive here

00:40:56.980 because the Bulwark hates Trump.

00:40:59.400 It was an outlet

00:40:59.820 founded in direct opposition

00:41:01.560 to Trump

00:41:02.120 and they're pushing this idea

00:41:03.260 that Trump is going to pull off

00:41:04.180 the Hegseth nomination.

00:41:06.300 The Bulwark does make

00:41:07.260 one good point here,

00:41:08.160 which is that

00:41:08.740 Marco Rubio

00:41:10.740 is going to be

00:41:11.080 the Secretary of State.

00:41:12.640 Ron DeSantis

00:41:13.120 is the governor of Florida.

00:41:14.500 That means that

00:41:15.280 Ron DeSantis

00:41:15.940 has to figure out

00:41:17.100 who's going to replace

00:41:18.140 Marco Rubio

00:41:19.260 in the United States Senate.

00:41:20.460 Laura Trump

00:41:22.100 has reportedly

00:41:23.540 expressed some interest

00:41:26.040 in taking this seat

00:41:27.200 in Florida.

00:41:27.880 Obviously,

00:41:28.240 the Trumps are quite prominent

00:41:29.160 in Florida,

00:41:29.880 especially in Palm Beach.

00:41:31.380 So,

00:41:32.080 is there a world

00:41:33.880 in which

00:41:34.440 a deal goes down,

00:41:37.260 DeSantis goes

00:41:38.040 to the Pentagon,

00:41:39.480 and Laura Trump

00:41:40.420 goes into Rubio's

00:41:41.420 Senate seat?

00:41:43.460 People are asking,

00:41:44.660 why would President Trump

00:41:45.800 pick Ron DeSantis,

00:41:46.920 the man

00:41:47.400 against whom he fought

00:41:48.720 a brutal primary?

00:41:49.720 It wasn't a particularly

00:41:50.880 difficult primary.

00:41:52.860 It was never a primary

00:41:54.080 that Trump

00:41:55.760 was going to lose,

00:41:56.600 I don't think.

00:41:56.980 I think Trump's nomination

00:41:57.860 was pretty much

00:41:58.460 a fait accompli

00:41:59.080 from the beginning,

00:42:00.540 but especially

00:42:01.120 after the prosecutions,

00:42:02.060 then it was totally over.

00:42:03.480 But even still,

00:42:04.740 why would Trump

00:42:05.320 pick DeSantis?

00:42:07.440 Look,

00:42:07.920 in part,

00:42:09.400 Trump doesn't

00:42:09.840 take things personally.

00:42:11.160 He fights brutally.

00:42:12.680 He can fight personally,

00:42:14.200 but then he doesn't

00:42:15.020 really take things personally.

00:42:16.440 He kisses and makes up

00:42:17.780 with Lindsey Graham,

00:42:18.660 who he ran against

00:42:19.380 in 16,

00:42:20.040 with Rand Paul,

00:42:21.380 with Ted Cruz,

00:42:22.320 with Marco Rubio,

00:42:23.280 obviously,

00:42:23.920 puts it Secretary of State.

00:42:24.940 So,

00:42:25.900 you could see Trump

00:42:26.820 putting him somewhere,

00:42:28.560 but he'd probably have

00:42:29.260 to have a reason for it.

00:42:31.000 That would explain

00:42:32.320 how to do it.

00:42:33.220 Now,

00:42:33.460 would that be a good deal?

00:42:34.440 Maybe it would.

00:42:36.020 However,

00:42:36.520 there is a real cost.

00:42:37.760 If Trump pulls away

00:42:39.320 from his current nominee,

00:42:42.940 that is,

00:42:43.440 now you're going to have

00:42:43.960 two nominees go down

00:42:45.180 before they even

00:42:45.860 really seek

00:42:46.660 the Senate confirmation,

00:42:47.800 Matt Gaetz,

00:42:48.460 and I don't know.

00:42:49.300 To me,

00:42:49.800 that's really dangerous.

00:42:52.120 I think you get

00:42:53.120 one of those.

00:42:54.580 You get a limited number,

00:42:56.400 and if you're already

00:42:56.880 going to blow

00:42:57.220 your limited number

00:42:57.860 of pulling away

00:42:58.500 on your nominees,

00:42:59.940 then you might wind up

00:43:00.960 in the same trouble

00:43:02.180 that Trump ended up

00:43:03.000 in the first time around,

00:43:04.140 which is that

00:43:04.840 he wasn't able

00:43:05.640 to get a lot of his

00:43:06.300 top picks through

00:43:07.060 for a year,

00:43:07.800 two years

00:43:08.280 into his administration.

00:43:09.680 That seems to me unwise.

00:43:11.160 I would try to lock down

00:43:11.960 the Senate right now,

00:43:13.200 get Hegseth through,

00:43:14.060 but if it goes down,

00:43:16.320 I don't know.

00:43:17.580 I don't believe

00:43:19.520 the scuttlebutt

00:43:20.280 until it winds up

00:43:21.200 being real,

00:43:21.980 and there would seem

00:43:22.840 to be an active campaign

00:43:24.300 to put DeSantis

00:43:24.940 in at the Pentagon,

00:43:25.960 but just because

00:43:26.760 it's an active campaign

00:43:27.620 doesn't mean

00:43:28.180 that it isn't true.

00:43:29.980 Speaking of qualifications,

00:43:31.460 finally,

00:43:31.780 we get some good news.

00:43:33.700 There is

00:43:34.500 a demographic cliff,

00:43:38.700 according to reports,

00:43:40.100 that is going to

00:43:41.200 shut down

00:43:42.860 a lot of colleges.

00:43:43.720 This, I believe,

00:43:44.360 came out of

00:43:44.620 the Wall Street Journal.

00:43:45.980 It's citing,

00:43:47.080 reporting by Bloomberg

00:43:48.180 and the Federal Reserve

00:43:49.220 Bank of Philadelphia,

00:43:51.060 a model showing

00:43:52.200 that as fewer people

00:43:54.540 are born,

00:43:55.960 first of all,

00:43:56.700 as fewer people

00:43:57.560 then still

00:43:58.520 go to college,

00:44:00.520 researchers

00:44:00.980 have reportedly

00:44:02.540 developed simulations

00:44:03.500 to determine

00:44:05.260 the likelihood

00:44:05.740 future closures

00:44:06.640 of these schools.

00:44:07.540 Finding the worst-case scenario

00:44:08.500 shows schools

00:44:09.100 experiencing

00:44:09.660 a one-time

00:44:10.500 15% drop

00:44:12.320 in new students.

00:44:13.580 That would result

00:44:14.440 in 80 more colleges

00:44:15.980 closing,

00:44:16.940 affecting more than

00:44:17.660 100,000 students

00:44:19.300 and 20,880 staff members.

00:44:22.700 The significant drop

00:44:23.840 in students

00:44:24.480 seeking higher education

00:44:25.500 is known as

00:44:25.960 the demographic cliff.

00:44:27.080 When I went to college,

00:44:28.100 the year after I went

00:44:28.840 to college,

00:44:29.280 2009,

00:44:30.340 marked the high point

00:44:31.680 in American high school

00:44:32.640 graduates going to college.

00:44:33.800 I think it was like

00:44:34.220 70% that year.

00:44:35.500 It was totally crazy.

00:44:36.340 It's petered off

00:44:38.220 a little since then

00:44:38.940 in part because

00:44:40.240 the costs have gone

00:44:41.500 through the roof.

00:44:42.620 The ROI

00:44:43.740 in terms of

00:44:44.680 professional attainment

00:44:45.960 has really dropped.

00:44:47.820 And then even the ROI

00:44:49.020 on what university education

00:44:50.520 is supposed to be for,

00:44:51.720 which is not to be

00:44:52.440 utilitarian,

00:44:53.160 not to be trade school,

00:44:54.120 not to be professional training,

00:44:55.640 but to give you

00:44:56.840 a proper liberal education

00:44:58.380 to help you make sense

00:44:59.940 of your freedom,

00:45:01.020 to help you

00:45:01.820 become a cultured

00:45:03.420 and cultivated person.

00:45:04.400 That's also gone away.

00:45:06.380 So not only do you

00:45:07.460 not graduate college

00:45:08.180 with useful skills,

00:45:09.200 you don't even graduate them

00:45:10.520 with what you're supposed

00:45:11.180 to have, 0.87

00:45:11.560 which is useless skills.

00:45:12.820 You really get nothing for it.

00:45:14.260 So people have stopped

00:45:14.960 attending college.

00:45:15.700 And then on top of that,

00:45:17.020 there are just fewer people.

00:45:19.180 We just are not having kids.

00:45:20.380 Americans have not 1.00

00:45:21.000 replaced themselves

00:45:21.780 since 1971

00:45:22.880 and it's dropping off

00:45:24.460 even further.

00:45:25.760 Now people just get dogs

00:45:27.000 and they treat their dogs

00:45:27.880 as though they're kids.

00:45:29.180 Well, there are going

00:45:29.820 to be consequences to that.

00:45:31.480 One of the consequences is

00:45:32.780 a lot of these institutions

00:45:34.220 are going to be revealed

00:45:35.280 for what they are.

00:45:36.600 A lot of these institutions

00:45:38.000 that cropped up

00:45:39.480 as a way to just force kids

00:45:41.460 to pressure them

00:45:42.280 with the soft pressure

00:45:43.260 of culture

00:45:43.700 and the hard pressure

00:45:44.740 of political funding

00:45:46.080 to say,

00:45:47.400 you need to go to college

00:45:48.500 to have a good life.

00:45:50.340 Those schools are going

00:45:51.120 to go by the wayside.

00:45:52.960 It's a point that I bring up

00:45:54.320 a lot on the show

00:45:55.080 because I think it is

00:45:56.100 the ultimate

00:45:56.820 conservative consolation,

00:45:58.500 which is that

00:45:59.140 things get crazy.

00:46:00.600 People fly away

00:46:01.460 with flights of fancy.

00:46:02.420 It's so nuts

00:46:03.080 that they even think

00:46:03.640 a man could be a woman. 0.99

00:46:04.780 But reality reasserts

00:46:07.120 itself in the end.

00:46:08.660 In the end,

00:46:09.880 it might take a long time.

00:46:11.620 We might want to hasten

00:46:12.740 this along a little bit.

00:46:13.700 But in the end,

00:46:14.400 reality will

00:46:15.400 reassert itself.

00:46:18.520 You can't have institutions

00:46:20.020 charge you a quarter million dollars

00:46:21.240 and give you nothing

00:46:21.960 and have those institutions

00:46:22.860 continue to thrive forever.

00:46:24.120 It doesn't work.

00:46:25.640 You can't have a society

00:46:26.960 that doesn't get married 1.00

00:46:28.400 and doesn't have children

00:46:29.300 and doesn't replace itself

00:46:30.480 and have that society continue.

00:46:32.920 It's just not going to happen.

00:46:34.940 Kronos is going to devour his sons.

00:46:37.600 You know,

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The Michael Knowles Show - December 05, 2024

Ep. 1630 - The Supreme Court Transgenderism Case EXPLAINED

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