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00:00:00.000 Daniel Penny, the hero Marine who protected innocent people on a subway by taking down

00:00:04.880 a career criminal that was threatening everyone, is a free man as justice, surprisingly, is served

00:00:11.360 in New York. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the show. Speaking of New York crime cases that have gripped the nation,

00:00:37.080 the guy who shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO and murdered him by Rockefeller Plaza has maybe

00:00:45.920 been apprehended. There is a person of interest there who seems to check a lot of the boxes.

00:00:51.940 We'll get into who this kid is because I shouldn't say kid. He's an adult man, but he

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00:02:09.080 Daniel Penny is acquitted. This is really, really great news. You know that the biggest charge against

00:02:16.060 Daniel Penny, which was second-degree manslaughter, that was already dismissed. But the prosecutors,

00:02:21.940 the libs, the judges, they still wanted to take this man down, this good Samaritan who protected

00:02:27.260 a train car full of people from a violent career criminal. And so they said, okay, we're going to

00:02:31.800 throw the top charge out, but we want the jury to go back in, and we want you to consider whether or

00:02:36.860 not he's guilty of negligent homicide. So it's not quite as serious, but it would still carry four

00:02:41.920 years of prison time. Please, we have to send this man to prison. The man who was killed, the career

00:02:49.120 criminal who had been threatening everyone. He's a black man. This guy's a white man. So right there,

00:02:53.720 you know, all the black people are good. All the white people are bad, according to the libs.

00:02:57.480 And then this guy, he's a military veteran. Those guys are the worst. We can't, oh, we always have to

00:03:02.700 prefer career criminals to military veterans. And here's the kicker. He acted in defense, not only

00:03:09.020 of himself, but of everyone around him. Oh, no, no, no. You're never allowed to act in self-defense.

00:03:14.120 Not in the libs, America. No, sir. So this guy had three strikes against him. They tried so hard,

00:03:20.060 and yet the jury comes back in, and they say, unanimous decision, not guilty. The courtroom erupted

00:03:29.720 in applause. We, the jury, have come to a unanimous decision on count two. The courtroom was absolutely

00:03:37.700 thrilled. This is not only justice, but I think this is a sign of a broader shift in the culture.

00:03:47.920 People have had enough of this, even in the blue states, even in the blue cities, even in New York.

00:03:53.100 People have had enough of the criminals running roughshod over innocent people. People have had

00:03:57.380 enough of the cops being told to stand down. People have had enough of ordinary civilians being told that

00:04:02.980 they can't protect themselves. They've had enough of it. And so even in a New York courtroom, people

00:04:08.060 are going to applaud. Even the New York jury, people are going to say unanimously, with greater

00:04:12.700 clarity even than on the first charge, yeah, this guy, no, stop it. He is innocent. If anything,

00:04:18.520 the guy should be given a medal for defending his community. Really good stuff. These supporters

00:04:24.860 of Jordan Neely, the supposed supporters of Jordan Neely, the man who was killed, the criminal who had

00:04:30.400 been threatening everybody, they gather outside the courtroom and they give the same song and dance

00:04:35.760 routine that we see from racial hustlers since time immemorial. If we get to this point, it's too late.

00:04:44.200 We have to be there for each other. And that's our call to action. Everybody that's pissed off at this

00:04:50.340 verdict, I challenge you to go outside today and help one person. That's my challenge. If you're angry,

00:04:59.660 if you're hurt, go help one person. That's how we beat the system. That's how we turn this around

00:05:08.880 by being there for each other.

00:05:15.840 I just want to say, I miss my son. My son didn't have to go through this. I didn't have to go through

00:05:23.580 this either. It hurts. Really, really hurts. What are we going to do people? What's going to happen to us

00:05:36.080 now? I had enough of this system is rigged. Come on, people. That's it. That's the whole comment.

00:05:50.480 So this is the father of Jordan Neely, the man who was killed in a justified homicide because he was

00:05:57.360 threatening all these people on a subway car. Okay. He says, I miss my son. I have sympathy for this

00:06:03.720 father. I have sympathy for any father, even a father who wasn't involved in his son's life, let's say.

00:06:07.880 But that's what I have to ask myself. Jordan Neely, 30-year-old man, was homeless. He had a rap sheet a mile

00:06:15.660 long. We know that this father wasn't married to Jordan Neely's mother when he was growing up. We

00:06:23.000 know this because Neely, when he was 14 years old, saw his poor mother murdered by a man with whom she

00:06:32.600 had been in an abusive relationship. And then her body was found in a suitcase on the side of the

00:06:38.740 Henry Hudson Parkway. And this, in some reporting, people have said that Jordan Neely's mental

00:06:46.100 problems came from the trauma. Obviously, you'd be pretty traumatized if that happened to your

00:06:50.620 mother. Where was Jordan Neely's father then? Where was Jordan Neely's father when he was

00:06:56.540 arrested 42 times, 42 some odd times? Where was Jordan Neely's father when Jordan Neely was homeless

00:07:03.640 for however many years? When he was addicted to drugs? Where was the father then? Where were all

00:07:09.580 the supporters then? This reminds me of George Floyd. George Floyd dies and all this family,

00:07:15.480 all these people come out of the woodwork to talk about justice and how they needed a piece of the

00:07:19.480 pie from the BLM shakedowns that happened in the wake of George Floyd's death. Where were those guys

00:07:24.180 when George Floyd was alive? Where were any of these people? They show up when it's time for a

00:07:29.900 shakedown. And maybe some of them are genuinely sad. You talk about, hey, let's go out here and do

00:07:36.540 something good for someone. Come on, channel your frustration. Yeah, all right. Well, how about you

00:07:41.620 give that advice into the mirror then, huh? Instead of trying to ruin an American hero's life, a U.S.

00:07:47.800 Marine's life, who was courageously protecting innocent people from the violent criminals. How about that?

00:07:55.240 Where were the friends and family and supporters when Jordan Neely needed them, huh? Nowhere to be

00:08:01.860 seen, but now they think it's a payday and they show up. Meanwhile, a Republican in Congress, Eli Crane,

00:08:07.760 excellent Republican member of Congress, he proposed, even before the verdict came in,

00:08:13.860 proposed giving Daniel Penny the Congressional Gold Medal. A lot of people don't know what the

00:08:18.120 Congressional Gold Medal is. This is our nation's, I think, oldest honor. This goes back to 1776.

00:08:25.240 And it's right up there with the Presidential Medal of Freedom. But it's given out by Congress.

00:08:33.280 Daniel Penny's actions exemplify what it means to stand against the grain to do right in a world that

00:08:36.760 rewards moral cowardice. He deserves the Congressional Gold Medal. Absolutely. And I hope he gets it now.

00:08:42.620 Hope he gets it. In fact, it would have been even more merited, I think, had Daniel Penny,

00:08:54.460 God forbid, been convicted. This guy who does a courageous act, a very virtuous act, had he in it

00:09:00.540 looked like it could go this way for a while. This was what the judge wanted, clearly. It's what the

00:09:04.520 prosecution obviously was going for. Had this guy been found guilty, sentenced to prison, all the

00:09:09.560 more reason for congressional Republicans to stand up. Now they can do it and take a victory lap and

00:09:15.800 give this guy an award that he really deserves. But now is the time for Republicans who have been

00:09:23.720 given unified government with a mandate from the American people in an electoral college landslide,

00:09:28.640 but also in a popular vote victory. Now we need to reset some of the ideals. Now we need to reset some

00:09:36.220 of the norms, reset some of the incentives. We should not be playing according to the leftist

00:09:44.060 hierarchy of values. We shouldn't be playing according to the intersectional hierarchy that

00:09:50.160 says that all black people are good, all white people are bad, all women are good, all men are bad,

00:09:54.260 all sexual deviants are good, all normal people are bad, whatever it is. We shouldn't play along

00:09:58.380 with that. We shouldn't play along with the notion that all the criminals are good and all the

00:10:04.600 victims are somehow culpable. No, no, no. We need to reset the values. We need to use words like normal

00:10:12.960 again. We need to use words like good, moral, virtuous. We need to use all those words. And we

00:10:19.480 need to reward the people who do good stuff and we need to punish the people who do bad stuff.

00:10:22.980 And we need to use our power in the government to do that. Now speaking of criminal justice,

00:10:28.220 and righting some wrongs. One last little bit from that Meet the Press interview that President

00:10:33.260 Trump gave where I thought he did marvelously. President Trump floated pardons for the supposed

00:10:41.380 interactionists of January 6th, the worst in history of this or any republic. Here, the incredulity,

00:10:51.120 the absolute drooling bewilderment from the NBC host.

00:10:56.160 I'm going to look at everything. We're going to look at individual cases. Yeah. Okay. But I'm going

00:11:00.020 to be acting very quickly. Within your first 100 days, first day? First day. First day. Yeah,

00:11:07.420 I'm looking first day. You're going to issue these pardons.

00:11:09.160 These people have been there. How long is it? Three or four years. You know, by the way,

00:11:13.700 they've been in there for years and they're in a filthy, disgusting place

00:11:19.420 that shouldn't even be allowed to be open. Absolutely right. We need pardons for the

00:11:25.920 January 6th. I'm sure there are some number of people who did bad things. That's why he's going

00:11:30.640 to look at it on a case by case basis. But it's important. I'm glad Trump clarified. He said day one.

00:11:36.040 I'm not even going to wait till day two or day three. This is a top priority for a few reasons.

00:11:43.140 One, it's the right thing to do. It's a matter of justice. Criminals get off the hook. People

00:11:49.260 loot, rob, rape, pillage, and burn. And Kamala Harris raises money for them on Twitter. And

00:11:55.020 staffers for Joe Biden raise money for them on Twitter. You burn down Minneapolis,

00:11:58.300 the VP is going to raise money for you. But the people who take selfies in the Capitol Rotunda,

00:12:02.620 the grannies who show up to redress their grievances, they're the ones who go to prison.

00:12:07.500 I don't think so. So as a matter of justice, Trump should let the vast majority of these people go.

00:12:12.500 Also, politics also comes down to friend and enemy. And these people who showed up to support Trump,

00:12:21.480 the people who were peaceful, who were let into the Capitol by police in some cases, who were given

00:12:26.440 private tours by the cops before the men in black showed up months later or a year later and then

00:12:31.920 arrested them for nothing. Those people are supporters, okay? And we need to show people

00:12:38.000 not only that we're on your side if you're a supporter of ours, but at the very least,

00:12:43.820 that you won't be punished for supporting us. Democrats have created this incentive structure

00:12:47.480 where if in any way you suggest support for a Republican or a conservative,

00:12:51.080 you could be punished at your school. You could face professional reprisals. You might have the

00:12:57.060 FBI come knocking on your door. You're a little too pro-life. Well, maybe you'll get arrested in

00:13:01.640 front of your kids. You support Trump. You want maybe some kind of electoral commission after the

00:13:08.200 2020 election. Yeah, well, you're going to go to jail for a couple of years, okay? You could be

00:13:11.920 really seriously punished. You could be ostracized. You could face not only social repercussions,

00:13:16.660 but legal repercussions. We need to reset that standard too. There are a lot of things that we

00:13:22.680 need to reset now that we have some power. If we want that power to endure beyond just a couple of

00:13:27.360 years while we have unified government, we need to reset the carrots and the sticks. There's so much

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00:14:42.260 Seth, the Defense Secretary nominee for President Trump, is looking a little bit better right

00:14:49.300 now as a nominee. You know, we had Matt Gaetz go up, and Matt Gaetz was shot down. The senators

00:14:55.940 said, you're not going to get the votes. Then the liberals turned all their attention to

00:15:01.160 Pete Hegg Seth for Secretary of Defense, to Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence,

00:15:05.600 to Bobby Kennedy, Secretary of Health and Human Services. And Pete Hegg Seth is getting the brunt

00:15:13.160 of it right now. All of these anonymous reports. One, that Pete was a Casanova. Two, now people

00:15:20.660 saying he's a drunk or something. Again, with no evidence whatsoever. Crazy claim that he's a rapist

00:15:25.140 or something. Not only with no evidence to support some of these claims, but with a lot of evidence to

00:15:30.280 the contrary. And it's just a free for all. And I mentioned the Gaetz nomination at first, because

00:15:34.840 when Gaetz went down, that put a little bit of blood in the water. And now all these sharks are

00:15:39.380 circling. Well, one of the big holdouts on the Hegg Seth nomination for the Pentagon was Joni Ernst.

00:15:46.620 And Republican Senator Joni Ernst, it was reported, was maybe interested in that Defense Secretary job

00:15:54.760 herself. So that's all you need. Murkowski and Collins, liberal Republicans, you know they're

00:16:00.780 going to be no's. So then all you really have to do is pluck off one more, one or two more.

00:16:05.380 Lindsey Graham was signaling that he didn't like the Hegg Seth nomination. Mitch McConnell obviously

00:16:11.240 doesn't like much of anything about Trump. So Joni Ernst was a big player here. Joni Ernst just came

00:16:15.560 out and said she's going to support Hegg Seth. Or at least she said that she is currently supporting

00:16:20.640 Hegg Seth. And she's hopeful that he'll get through the process. Her exact words.

00:16:24.700 Following our encouraging conversations, Pete committed to completing a full audit of the

00:16:28.640 Pentagon and selecting a senior official who will uphold the roles and value of our servicemen and

00:16:33.260 women based on quality and standards, not quotas, and who will prioritize and strengthen my work

00:16:37.900 to prevent sexual assault within the ranks. As I support Pete through this process, I look forward

00:16:43.260 to a fair hearing based on truth, not anonymous sources. Really good news. This is the first time

00:16:50.320 that I can tell that Joni Ernst has said that she is supporting Pete Hegg Seth at all, much less

00:16:56.860 supporting him through this process. I don't know what Trump offered her. I don't know what Trump

00:17:01.760 threatened her with. I do know what Republicans, myself included, have observed about her, which is

00:17:08.220 that Republican primary voters are not going to take kindly to a Republican who votes for Joe Biden's

00:17:14.660 defense secretary nominees, but won't vote for Donald Trump's. A perfectly qualified nominee

00:17:20.620 like Pete Hegg Seth. Tom Cotton takes it further, though. That's Republican senator from Arkansas.

00:17:25.940 He tweeted out, I expect our Republican Senate is going to confirm all of President Trump's nominees.

00:17:31.600 This is very good news. Is he bluffing or does he know something that we don't know?

00:17:35.760 Well, my warning on Hegg Seth, I really like Pete Hegg Seth. I think he'll do a great job as the

00:17:40.800 defense secretary. I've known Pete for a long time. I think there's a lot of nonsense people are

00:17:43.960 saying about him. And the one serious criticism that he's getting, which is that he's been married

00:17:49.260 multiple times, is a little bit of a Casanova. He seems to have rectified that problem some time

00:17:54.060 ago. So that's in the past. They're trying to keep digging that up to kill his nomination. But I said,

00:17:59.580 look, I don't care if you hate Pete Hegg Seth. If Pete Hegg Seth goes down after Matt Gaetz goes down,

00:18:03.960 good luck getting your other nominees through. Good luck. Bobby Kennedy, you think, is going to get

00:18:08.140 through? If extramarital affairs in the past are enough to take down a cabinet secretary, well,

00:18:15.240 don't even bother trying with Bobby Kennedy. That's a long shot. If being outside of the foreign

00:18:20.660 policy establishment, the military industrial complex, the defense industry lobbyists, if being

00:18:25.560 outside their favored circles is enough to disqualify you, forget about Tulsi Gabbard. She's

00:18:30.980 definitely going down. In fact, I think forget about a lot of Trump's nominees. It took Trump a long

00:18:36.860 time to get his nominees through in 2016. I think he's trying to move faster now. Well, the way you

00:18:41.380 win is by winning. The way you win is by winning. And I think Republicans are starting to get that

00:18:48.500 message. You got to band together. This is not a huge majority. You're talking about, what, 53 senators?

00:18:54.080 So if every single one of these people, Ernst, McCollins, Murkowski, if they all

00:18:59.900 have little temper tantrums and they all have their own little private interests in what they're

00:19:04.980 angling for and they won't all band together and support the nominees, okay, then I guess

00:19:08.860 what was the point of electing a Republican? Dems are going to find blood in the water. You're not

00:19:13.340 going to get anything done. You win by winning. You get Hegseth through, it's much easier to get

00:19:17.840 Kennedy through, much easier to get Tulsi Gabbard through, much easier to do things for the American

00:19:22.900 people, the majority of whom voted for Trump. And by the way, when they voted for Trump, he wasn't

00:19:27.600 hiding the ball on liking Bobby Kennedy. He wasn't hiding the ball on wanting to put Tulsi in the

00:19:32.320 government, okay? He campaigned with those people. This is what they voted for. And any of these senators

00:19:39.140 who even on our side, supposedly on our side, who want to hold this up, okay, you might have to answer

00:19:44.120 for that in a couple of years. And don't worry about me. I'm not going to be cutting the big checks, but the

00:19:48.960 fact that the world's richest man has now taken a very active interest in advancing President Trump's

00:19:54.160 agenda. Now that Republicans seem to be doing a pretty good job organizing, getting out the vote

00:19:59.080 on the ground, okay. You win by winning. Now, major news story, the United Healthcare CEO who was

00:20:09.260 murdered last week, when I was in New York, actually, he was just some blocks uptown from me.

00:20:14.720 There are all sorts of theories about who murdered him. Was it a professional hitman? Was it one of

00:20:21.620 his colleagues? You know, he was being investigated for insider trading. Was it a professional job?

00:20:26.740 Was it a disgruntled customer? Was it? Who was it? Well, a person of interest has been identified.

00:20:35.300 The suspect was in a McDonald's and was recognized by an employee who then called local police.

00:20:41.520 Responding officers questioned the suspect who was acting suspiciously and was carrying multiple

00:20:48.060 fraudulent IDs, as well as a U.S. passport. Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm

00:20:55.480 on his person, as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon used in the murder.

00:21:02.400 They also recovered clothing, including a mask consistent with those worn by our wanted individual.

00:21:08.780 Also recovered was a fraudulent New Jersey ID, matching the ID our suspect used to check into

00:21:17.340 his New York City hostel before the shooting incident. Additionally, officers recovered a

00:21:24.220 handwritten document that speaks to both his motivation and mindset. NYPD detectives are en route

00:21:32.120 to Pennsylvania as we seek to interview this subject further.

00:21:39.880 Kind of seems like they got him. I know I have to say allegedly, reportedly, but just given all of

00:21:45.420 that evidence, it would appear that they have their guy. And we now know a little bit about their guy.

00:21:53.960 And I know a lot of this guy. I think this guy is actually exemplary of our time,

00:22:02.520 of his generation, of the kind of culture that we're living in. We'll get into it in a moment.

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00:23:27.460 Machine Learning, netsuite.com slash Knowles. What do we know about this person? I'm not going to say

00:23:33.800 his name because he obviously loves attention and I don't see any reason to give it to him.

00:23:38.780 This guy is rabidly anti-capitalist according to his writings, if it is the person of interest who

00:23:48.520 actually committed the murder. Rabidly anti-capitalist, terrified of global warming,

00:23:55.400 a major climate change worrier, an admirer of the Unabomber who has hated the healthcare industry since a

00:24:03.960 relative died. Also an Ivy League graduate. This guy was a graduate of UPenn, tough school to get

00:24:12.940 into, very impressive, wealthy, prestigious school, and was the valedictorian of his prep school. He

00:24:19.320 went to a very expensive prep school, Gilman School in Baltimore, tuition there's $40,000 per year.

00:24:25.600 He wrote a manifesto, of course, only two and a half pages. Not exactly the Unabomber, but it was

00:24:34.600 channeling the Unabomber. I read one passage of it. It reads like a, I don't know, it reads like a poor

00:24:41.420 impression of the Unabomber. At least Ted Kaczynski was extremely intelligent. You know, he was a nut and

00:24:45.620 everything, but he was smart. This one seemed like a weak impression. According to his Facebook account,

00:24:52.400 which does not seem to have been used recently, says he's the co-founder of App Roar Studios,

00:24:58.260 which describes itself as an app development startup founded to provide the simplest and most

00:25:02.960 engaging gaming experience. So look, we don't know if the person of interest is actually the killer.

00:25:07.660 There will be a trial. We don't know much else about him, at least any specific facts.

00:25:14.620 We don't know a lot. That'll all come out over the course of the trial.

00:25:20.000 And I usually hate psychobabble, but I'm going to engage in a lot of psychobabble because I know a

00:25:26.280 lot of rabid anti-capitalist, climate change alarmist, Ivy League graduate, top of their high school class,

00:25:35.560 rich kids who are reflexively liberal and who love attention and are wantrepreneurs who need to

00:25:44.540 make themselves the center of everything. If I were to engage in psychobabble with this kid,

00:25:52.780 as I know the type, I've met a lot of these types, he seems to suffer from the central pathology of

00:26:02.700 the millennial Zoomer generation, which is main character syndrome. This guy, I'm just, again,

00:26:12.100 I don't know anything about him personally other than the facts I've stated, but I've met a lot of

00:26:16.020 people who fit that description. And he seems to have hardcore main character syndrome. And so he

00:26:23.380 goes out and commits a murder. He murders the CEO of a healthcare company because what? Maybe he's

00:26:29.980 nuts. Maybe he just had a psychotic break. I've met a number of these striver kids at the top schools,

00:26:36.560 often from rich, privileged backgrounds, who just have a break. They just snap.

00:26:43.540 People who spend a lot of time and money starting their own company, they're going to be the next

00:26:48.660 Mark Zuckerberg. Maybe it doesn't totally work out. Maybe the only way this guy was going to get

00:26:54.000 attention, he's the big crusader. He's going to save the world from the sun monster. He's the big crusader.

00:26:59.280 He's going to rewrite the political economy of the United States, of the West. He's going to take

00:27:05.020 down bourgeois society. But these people, they crave attention. They demand to matter. These people

00:27:11.820 have been told that they are the most important thing since sliced bread, indispensable to humanity

00:27:17.040 since they were in diapers, especially the ones who go to the ritzy schools and who are at the top of

00:27:22.000 their class. They're never brought back to reality. Now, how do you bring them back to reality? I'm not

00:27:29.220 a rabid anti-capitalist crusader, so I'm not knocking fancy private schools. I'm not knocking

00:27:34.140 elite education, obviously. I'm quite supportive of real elite education, not just the facade of elite

00:27:41.000 education to teach people a bunch of nonsense. But what do you do? You need to have all of those

00:27:49.600 conditions moored by reality, moored by moral reality, moored by religion, moored by the exaltation

00:27:58.960 of virtues like humility, practicality, prudence, charity, care for others. You have to—otherwise,

00:28:08.760 if you just have all of the noblesse without any of the oblige, if you just have all of the privilege

00:28:15.380 without any of the responsibility, you're going to get these wacko narcissist psychos

00:28:20.460 who act like a character out of Nietzsche, who act like a Nietzschean figure out of a Dostoevsky

00:28:29.500 book, for that matter, who just feel that they are justified in doing anything, who feel that they

00:28:38.660 are world historic figures, they demand to be world historic figures, and everyone else is just a side

00:28:44.520 character in their special story. I don't know for a fact if that's exactly what's going on here. I

00:28:50.260 might be just reading into it because of the handful of details we know, but I know the type,

00:28:56.100 and that I think is endemic to our age. Now, speaking of narcissists and justice being served,

00:29:02.600 Taylor Lorenz, one of the more frustrating and grating liberal journalist figures, Taylor Lorenz

00:29:10.860 has apparently been fired from Vox Media after she celebrated the murder of the UnitedHealthcare

00:29:17.600 CEO. Lorenz wrote this not on Twitter or X, but on the news, like a new liberal Twitter that some of

00:29:25.840 them are doing this week. They seem to have a new fake liberal Twitter every three weeks, and then no

00:29:30.300 one really uses it. It's the whole fun of Twitter as you argue with people. So I don't know, whatever the

00:29:34.700 one is this week, she posted an article about how Blue Cross Blue Shield will no longer cover

00:29:41.240 anesthesia for the full length of certain surgeries. And she said, quote, and people wonder why we want

00:29:46.420 these executives dead. So she's saying, yeah, I support killing this, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare.

00:29:51.880 And then she kind of tried to gaslight people and pretend she didn't really say that. But anyway,

00:29:55.760 according to reports, we'll see if they're true, she was booted from Vox Media, a left-wing

00:30:01.040 company. She's saying the reports are 100% false, but the media reporters are saying it anyway. So

00:30:06.360 who do I believe? I don't really believe Taylor Lorenz about anything, so I think it might be true.

00:30:11.860 What does this tell us? It tells us something has changed. I told you earlier, something's changed

00:30:17.260 in New York. The acquittal of Daniel Penny, something's changed. I don't know that Daniel

00:30:21.920 Penny would have been acquitted five years ago. At the height of BLM, I don't think Daniel Penny

00:30:26.180 gets acquitted, certainly not in New York. What changed? Well, here, what changed is

00:30:30.560 now there are consequences, even for the liberal media. Now there are consequences to calling for

00:30:37.680 the death of innocent people. Now there are consequences to following your ideology to such

00:30:42.920 ghastly and cruel ends. Now there are consequences for criminals on the streets in New York. Now there

00:30:49.260 are consequences for, some would call them criminals, for liberal journalists. Maybe they're

00:30:55.200 going to get booted out of that White House press room. Maybe they're going to be fired from their

00:30:59.040 websites. Why? Because no one's paying attention anymore. The fact that MSNBC's ratings are dropping

00:31:04.840 to middling podcast levels, lower than middling podcast levels in the Prime demo, 25 to 54.

00:31:12.540 The fact that my doppelganger at MSNBC needs to take a $5 million pay cut. The fact that MSNBC is

00:31:17.820 probably going to be spun off. It's on the chopping block. And CNN is having mass firings. The fact that

00:31:23.720 I don't think that Vox reportedly has fired Taylor Lorenz because all of a sudden they've

00:31:29.720 caught a case of integrity. I think they are reportedly firing Taylor Lorenz because they

00:31:35.820 realize, oh shoot, there's really not an audience for this radical leftism. Oh shoot, it turns out

00:31:42.760 people don't love criminals running roughshod all over citizens on the street. Oh shoot, turns out we

00:31:48.460 still kind of like to support the good guy, you know, and the underdog and America and tradition

00:31:54.260 and normality. We like that. We still like normality, it turns out. Consequences. It's the

00:32:00.620 conservative consolation that Russell Kirk identifies and others have identified, which is that there's

00:32:05.960 so much absurdity and pain in the short term, but reality does reassert itself eventually. I think we

00:32:13.420 are watching reality reassert itself right now. Now, speaking of violence, Benjamin Netanyahu,

00:32:20.480 BB in Israel is taking credit for toppling Bashar al-Assad in Syria. I covered the coup in Syria,

00:32:29.040 which ended the 13-year civil war by ousting Bashar al-Assad. And the media are portraying this

00:32:35.920 as some wonderful thing. Oh, that evil, terrible dictator in Syria has gone away now. A new birth of

00:32:41.440 freedom. It's the Syrian spring, wonderful liberation. And I thought, hold on, let me,

00:32:46.500 I've heard this, I've heard this number before. I remember hearing this one in Libya and Iraq and a

00:32:52.040 number of other places. So let me see who replaced that mean old evil Bashar al-Assad. Oh, a guy who

00:32:56.840 worked for Al-Qaeda. Oh, great. Okay. Oh, a guy who worked for ISIS. Cool. Wow. Why am I celebrating

00:33:02.080 that Bashar al-Assad has been replaced by someone who worked for ISIS? I'm not celebrating that at

00:33:08.300 all. Because say what you will about Bashar al-Assad, he did substantially protect religious

00:33:15.100 minorities, including Christians in Syria. Al-Qaeda and ISIS don't protect Christians. They

00:33:20.940 target Christians. These are some of the oldest Christian communities in the world. This is where

00:33:24.840 Christianity was founded. So I'm not celebrating this. Bibi Netanyahu is celebrating this and claiming

00:33:31.100 credit for it. Joe Biden is celebrating this and claiming credit for it. The liberal foreign policy

00:33:36.580 establishment is celebrating this and taking credit for it. And I see why they are individually. If I

00:33:43.040 were in Israel, I would certainly be supporting this. If I were in the liberal foreign policy

00:33:49.860 establishment, I would probably be supporting this. Some in the liberal foreign policy establishment like

00:33:55.460 Iran. And Assad was a proxy of Iran. And Assad also was a proxy of Vladimir Putin. And it gets really

00:34:03.280 complicated. I get all of that. But I don't know that this is a good thing. So I have three takeaways.

00:34:09.780 One, I think Netanyahu actually does deserve some credit. It was pretty impressive.

00:34:16.820 Netanyahu's argument is, had Hamas not attacked us, we would not have hammered Hamas back. And then

00:34:22.520 Hezbollah attacked us. And then we hammered Hezbollah. And it was only because Hezbollah was getting so

00:34:27.000 hammered. And Hamas was being destroyed. And Iran was on its back foot. And Russia, by the way,

00:34:32.840 was bogged down in Ukraine. So Netanyahu can't take credit for that. But because of that, the big

00:34:37.660 supporters for Assad were weakened. And so the rebels could go in there and boot him out. One,

00:34:42.560 Netanyahu, really good at his job. Two, even allies have different interests at times. It's true of any,

00:34:47.560 it's not just unique. Some people only focus on Israel. With any of our allies, sometimes we have

00:34:52.860 opposing interests. This might be one of those times, although many in the US foreign policy

00:34:57.380 establishment would say anything that weakens Russia and anything that weakens Iran is a good

00:35:01.000 thing. And they just don't care as much about the Syrian Christians. And I do care about the Syrian

00:35:04.940 Christians. So that's a point where I would probably pull away from the American foreign policy

00:35:09.600 establishment. But at the very least, something I think we could all agree on is

00:35:13.980 we need American leadership. We need American leadership sometimes as much to wrangle our

00:35:21.820 allies as to wrangle our enemies. Because here's something I could tell you. If you

00:35:26.440 hate Bashar al-Assad, or if you don't totally hate Bashar al-Assad, I thought, you know,

00:35:33.800 the devil we knew was probably better than the devil we don't. Regardless, had we had real American

00:35:40.760 leadership? Lo, these past three and a half years. Had Trump remained in office after 2020,

00:35:48.280 Assad would still be in power. Hamas would never have attacked Israel on October 7th. Putin would

00:35:55.040 never have invaded Ukraine, or further invaded into Ukraine, past Crimea. It wouldn't have happened.

00:36:01.540 You can't prove a counterfactual, but I guess my evidence for this is

00:36:05.720 the Middle Eastern dictators just kind of chilled when Trump was in office.

00:36:10.800 The radical anti-Israel pro-Palestine people, they just kind of chilled when Trump was in office.

00:36:16.180 Vladimir Putin, for the first time in 20 years, did not further invade a country while Trump was in

00:36:22.840 office. Strong American leadership can protect peace and interests and vulnerable minority communities

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00:37:32.320 My favorite comment yesterday is from Caroline L. W1F, who says,

00:37:37.580 excellent analysis on the Trump interview, Michael, was thinking yesterday Trump should

00:37:41.100 appoint you to something. Oh, that's very kind of you. If my country called on me to serve,

00:37:45.700 I suppose I would have to consider it, but that's very kind of you. In the meantime,

00:37:48.240 I'll keep doing my show and selling cigars. That's very nice. I'm glad you liked my take on those

00:37:52.280 things. Now, speaking of Syria and part of my consistent belief that Assad was probably better

00:38:01.320 than whoever was going to follow him, and certainly better for Syrian Christians, but probably better

00:38:05.960 just generally. The rebels over there in Syria are apparently emptying Assad's prisons. And we all

00:38:15.540 knew this was going to happen. If you followed this at all, this is what happens. You overthrow the

00:38:18.800 government, and then the rebels come in, and they free all the people that the government had

00:38:22.860 imprisoned. So this is how the media are reporting on it. The Associated Press, propaganda par excellence.

00:38:29.280 Syrian rebels free prisoners from Assad's notorious dungeons who celebrate in Damascus streets.

00:38:39.080 Okay. Bashar Bahoum woke in his dungeon prison cell in Damascus at dawn Sunday,

00:38:45.160 thinking it would be the last day of his life. But no, it wasn't. The people at the door were the rebels.

00:38:50.020 Okay. You can read the article if you like. I'd like to correct this headline a little bit, though.

00:38:57.280 Syrian rebels. I'm going to correct that to mostly terrorists. Syrian terrorists free, I'm going to correct

00:39:07.320 prisoners. I'm sure there are plenty of innocent people who were imprisoned by the Assad regime.

00:39:10.480 The guy was a total butcher. All right, let's not whitewash it. But a lot of the people that Assad

00:39:14.940 imprisoned were Islamist terrorists. So let me, I'll rewrite it a little bit. Syrian terrorists free

00:39:21.940 terror, other terrorists from Assad's notorious dungeons. We'll just change that to prisons.

00:39:28.400 You know, it's just a prison. I'm sure it was a nasty prison, but it's a prison.

00:39:32.260 Terrorists free more terrorists from Assad's prisons. Okay. Why is that a good thing?

00:39:36.660 Can anyone explain to me why it's a good thing? I get it degrades Russia. And so from a grand

00:39:43.340 strategic perspective, I guess that's good because Russia's missiles pointed at us. Okay,

00:39:46.700 I get that. And Iran is already down. So hitting one of their proxies kicks Iran in the teeth. And

00:39:52.340 we don't like Iran. I don't really care that much about Iran, but Iran, it's not, it's not a good

00:39:56.600 state. You know, I kind of, I liked the Shah more than I like these guys. And, but, and they're not as

00:40:01.720 big an adversary historically as Russia or something, but okay, I get it. But

00:40:05.140 why, why is this good? It seems like when we topple these guys, these areas just become

00:40:11.340 hotbeds for terrorism. And the people who are harmed are people like the Druze,

00:40:18.380 maybe the Kurds, you know, religious minorities. The majority of Syria is Sunni. The government

00:40:24.320 that was overthrown was Alawite, which is a break off of Shia Islam. And so Bashar al-Assad made a big

00:40:29.600 part of his, of his reign that he would protect religious minorities because he was trying to

00:40:34.520 keep down a Sunni majority. And one of the minorities that he protected, it would appear

00:40:39.780 reasonably well, was Christian. So that's not, why is this good? I don't know. Is that it seems,

00:40:45.140 because even if you can convince me and you can, in a way I can see the grand strategic argument

00:40:49.800 for why it's good. You got to get the Russians and that's why it's good to fund Ukraine. I see all

00:40:54.520 of it. But what are the odds this works out well? You know, there are kind of two reads of the

00:41:01.780 foreign policy establishment. There's like the James Bond read and there's the burn after reading

00:41:06.940 read. One is these guys, the CIA, the intelligence agencies, the Pentagon, they're omnipotent,

00:41:14.160 they're omniscient, they're geniuses, they know everything. And then the other one is that they're

00:41:18.660 just, they just bumble around a lot. And every time they try to improve anything, things just get

00:41:24.080 worse.

00:41:25.000 That's the Coen brothers burn after reading version. And when it comes to toppling Middle

00:41:28.780 Eastern dictators, I don't know, Libya, that didn't work out well. Egypt, that didn't work

00:41:33.780 out all that well. Worked out better than Libya, I guess. Iraq, that really didn't work out well.

00:41:38.800 So I, I don't know, not, not convinced. When it says they freed, the prisoners have been freed

00:41:47.040 from us. Is it possible that Bashar Assad imprisoned some of these people for a reason? I don't know.

00:41:51.280 There are a lot of terrorists in Syria. You know, I don't know. I'm not celebrating.

00:41:55.120 Speaking of people who should be in prison, the Boston city councilor, Tanya Fernandez Anderson,

00:42:01.320 has recently gone on a tirade. She went viral. For this tirade, this woman is accused of engaging in a

00:42:11.800 little bit of corruption. And here's, here's her racially tinged invective.

00:42:17.320 What the do I have to do in this council in order to get respect as a black woman? I'm not afraid

00:42:26.120 of anybody here. When I make a mistake, I will be clear. I don't hate you as a white woman. I don't

00:42:33.060 hate you as a white man. I am sick and tired of this body. So stupidly racially divided. So afraid,

00:42:42.900 so depraved. People with no faith. Because they are afraid of, they're losing their advancement.

00:42:50.980 They're afraid of bargaining. They're afraid of leveraging. These people have, oh my God,

00:43:00.200 I can't even call you cowards because desperation deserves mercy. Here's a different redistricting.

00:43:06.320 Fine. We give it to a white woman. Can we all get along? Can we get together? Can we love each

00:43:12.220 other now? Can we make sure that black and brown babies don't die? Can we make sure that cops don't

00:43:17.720 kill before people are proven innocent? I don't know about you. I, I found it difficult to track

00:43:24.160 the logic of that tirade, but it starts to make a little more sense when you realize this woman's

00:43:30.760 now been indicted for five counts of wire fraud and one kind of theft. She, uh, allegedly gave a

00:43:37.080 relative of hers a $13,000 bonus. And then that relative slipped her seven G's in cash in a city hall

00:43:44.960 bathroom. Uh, the lady doth protest too much meeting. So she goes out there and it's the same

00:43:51.320 old story. We hear, we're going to hear it after the Daniel Penny verdict. It's racism and it's the

00:43:56.560 systems rigged and it's, uh, you're going after me cause I'm a black woman. And if I were a white woman,

00:44:02.580 you would never arrest me for all the graft and the bribes I'm taking. And this is racism and sexism.

00:44:08.480 And you know, the, the more emotional she becomes, the more you think, Oh, yikes. She's accusing the

00:44:14.060 other side of desperation. Desperation deserves mercy. And this woman, she does not seem like an

00:44:20.600 orderly statesman inclined toward the common good. It's a reminder. Once again, it's always the ones

00:44:27.780 you most expect. It's always, you know, had, had, uh, had this woman just sort of sat quietly said,

00:44:34.480 you know, listen, I, there's some problems in this body and I think we need to treat each other

00:44:38.280 with greater civility. And, and then she got accused of corruption. I'd say, wow, that was

00:44:41.720 surprising. But when you scream and you yell and you play the race card all the time, you know, you

00:44:48.660 got my attention and you got my suspicions up. Now, uh, speaking of crazy women, there is a report out

00:44:58.120 now. It's out of Australia, but I think it obtains in the West broadly in America, which is that

00:45:04.840 there's a new religion on the rise. There's a new religion that's really taking off in a way we

00:45:09.440 haven't seen it take off in a while. And that would be witchcraft. I, not my description of this

00:45:15.820 is their own description is people saying we are witches. We practice witchcraft and the defense of

00:45:23.300 witchcraft is typical. Actually, there's a strange overlap between the defense of witchcraft and just

00:45:31.840 the ordinary, uh, liberal kind of platitudinous speaking about diversity and inclusion and

00:45:38.360 individuality and emancipation. We don't have time to get to it. You know, I'm a tease. We'll have to

00:45:41.760 get to it tomorrow. There is no member block because I'm flying to Minnesota, but I will be back

00:45:45.960 with you tomorrow. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. See you then.

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