The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1660 - FAFO： Trump Destroys Colombia

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00:00:37.580 The Colombian government blocked two U.S. deportation flights on Sunday.

00:00:42.340 Here is how President Trump responded.

00:00:45.880 Quote,

00:00:46.440 I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in Colombia.

00:00:53.240 This order was given by Colombia's socialist president, Gustavo Petro, who is already very unpopular amongst his people.

00:01:01.020 Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security and public safety of the United States,

00:01:05.500 so I've directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures.

00:01:12.700 Emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the United States.

00:01:17.740 In one week, the 25% tariffs will be raised to 50%.

00:01:21.560 A travel ban and immediate visa revocations on the Colombia government officials and all allies and supporters.

00:01:29.940 Visa sanctions on all party members, family members, and supporters of the Colombian government.

00:01:35.460 Enhanced customs and border protection inspections of all Colombian nationals and cargo on national security grounds.

00:01:42.700 IEEPA treasury, banking, and financial sanctions to be fully imposed.

00:01:47.700 This is going at the president's money.

00:01:49.240 Just a little side note here.

00:01:50.340 This is going at the president's money.

00:01:52.100 Maybe some money that the Colombian elites have stashed in the United States. 0.92

00:01:55.480 Who knows?

00:01:55.960 Goes right for the money.

00:01:57.760 Continues.

00:01:58.640 These measures are just the beginning.

00:02:01.200 We will not allow the Colombian government to violate its legal obligations with regard to the acceptance and return of the criminals they forced into the United States.

00:02:08.840 So Trump sends that out.

00:02:10.980 The libs start screeching and whining and crying.

00:02:13.680 But then what do you know?

00:02:14.540 Now, one hour later, one hour later, one hour later, we get this note from El Señor Presidente de Colombia.

00:02:23.420 Now, my Spanish is not very good, but I can see a really important phrase bolded here.

00:02:29.300 Avión Presidencial.

00:02:31.060 So, from my pidgin Spanish here, it would appear to me that the Colombian president totally caved, immediately, not only said that he would accept the illegals, but in fact sent his presidential airplane to go pick them up.

00:02:48.200 This is pretty good stuff.

00:02:52.040 This serves two purposes, really.

00:02:54.920 This serves the purpose, the immediate objective, of deporting criminals.

00:02:59.500 This also, however, serves the broader strategic objective of telling the world we mean business.

00:03:06.240 The new strategy has already proven a success.

00:03:09.760 It turns out it really is that easy to deport illegal aliens. 0.84

00:03:13.940 The Democrats just don't want to.

00:03:15.580 I've got one question for everybody.

00:03:19.660 One question I've been asking myself over the past week.

00:03:23.080 Doesn't it feel good to have a real, competent president again?

00:03:28.040 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:03:28.800 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:03:45.580 Welcome back to the show. 0.74

00:03:50.260 Speaking of Latin American heads of state, Argentinian president Javier Millet just traveled to Davos for the World Economic Forum, where he called them all pedos.

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00:04:30.360 You know, the Colombian president, he was trying to save face, I think.

00:04:35.220 His argument was, well, I'm going to send the presidential jet because I just care about the dignity of these migrants.

00:04:43.020 I don't want them flown here on military aircraft.

00:04:46.520 It's about the dignity.

00:04:48.080 I don't think so.

00:04:49.960 That's not passing the BS test.

00:04:51.840 First, I think that he called, that he was bluffing, first of all, when he said we're not going to take these planes.

00:05:00.060 He obviously doesn't want the Colombian criminals in his country, even though they're Colombian and they're not American and they need to go back to Colombia. 1.00

00:05:06.320 He was bluffing, and President Trump called his bluff.

00:05:11.320 Now, the question always is, well, is Trump bluffing too?

00:05:13.780 That was the question that Vladimir Putin had in Russia when Trump said, allegedly, that he would hit Moscow if Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.

00:05:22.580 The question is, is he bluffing?

00:05:24.560 Well, maybe he is bluffing.

00:05:26.460 But with Trump, can you take the chance?

00:05:29.880 Now, in this case, Trump obviously was not bluffing.

00:05:33.360 He already had the tariffs and the sanctions and the visa restrictions and all of it in the works.

00:05:39.220 Once the Colombian president immediately caved and started following the law and allowing the United States to enforce its own law,

00:05:45.940 then Trump said, okay, look, some of these measures have already gone into practice,

00:05:50.780 and we're going to lift them once we have confirmation that the illegals are on the ground in Colombia.

00:05:55.660 Some of these, like the really heavy tariffs, we're just going to keep them in reserve until next time.

00:06:02.780 You got that, Colombian president?

00:06:05.300 Comprende, amigo?

00:06:06.840 Yeah, good?

00:06:07.680 All right, good.

00:06:08.240 I'm glad to hear it.

00:06:08.920 Now, while President Trump was dog-walking the Colombian president,

00:06:15.540 Trump's mentee, J.D. Vance, was proving that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

00:06:20.300 He was doing an interview on CBS, Face the Nation, in which he was grilled on immigration,

00:06:28.140 notably the claim that America was founded by immigrants.

00:06:32.280 Well, this is a country founded by immigrants.

00:06:34.620 Well, this is a country founded by-

00:06:35.780 This is a unique country.

00:06:36.340 This is a very unique country, and it was founded by some immigrants and some settlers.

00:06:41.540 But just because we were founded by immigrants doesn't mean that 240 years later that we have 0.78

00:06:46.140 to have the dumbest immigration policy in the world. 0.96

00:06:48.160 Really good response from J.D. here, and I'm glad he got this settler word in, because just at a very literal, historical level, America was not founded by immigrants. 0.98

00:07:00.780 That's just a lie.

00:07:02.320 The libs say it all the time.

00:07:03.680 They've been especially saying it since the middle of the 20th century onward.

00:07:06.680 But that is just part of the liberal mythos.

00:07:08.860 That isn't real.

00:07:10.180 America was founded by settlers.

00:07:12.500 This isn't ambiguous.

00:07:13.680 We have the records.

00:07:14.600 We know the history.

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00:07:28.140 It's a sidebar.

00:07:28.740 The pilgrims on the Mayflower were not immigrants.

00:07:34.080 They were settlers.

00:07:36.420 Many of the other people who came were settlers.

00:07:39.160 They came to a new land.

00:07:41.420 They settled treaties with some of the people who were still there, even though it was a largely barren land.

00:07:46.940 But there were still some people there.

00:07:48.380 They established treaties.

00:07:49.500 They had alliances.

00:07:50.420 They fought wars.

00:07:51.760 Sometimes wars were launched on them.

00:07:53.480 And ultimately, they conquered and won.

00:07:56.160 And back in those days, we still had a notion of the right of conquest, the law of conquest.

00:08:02.080 And then now we have a country.

00:08:04.800 There is very, very little similarity between the settlers who came on the Mayflower and some MS-13 gang member who hops the wall on the Rio Grande and comes into America to bring fentanyl.

00:08:19.180 Very, very little in common.

00:08:21.420 Some would say almost nothing in common.

00:08:22.840 Okay, so J.D. here, he's saying, look, we were founded by immigrants in part, but it's also settlers, you know.

00:08:29.160 So immigrants have played a big role in America.

00:08:31.440 Half my family came over on the Mayflower.

00:08:33.760 Half my family came over on a sardine boat from Italy, okay.

00:08:36.260 They were immigrants.

00:08:36.980 I'm not knocking that immigrants have contributed to America.

00:08:39.540 But please stop repeating this ridiculous canard that we were founded by immigrants. 0.99

00:08:44.960 We were not.

00:08:46.180 Even if we were, that wouldn't mean that we need to take 10 million of them all the time, you know, coming over from dubious circumstances, working with dubious criminal organizations.

00:08:56.020 Nobody needs that.

00:08:56.980 But the interviewer here presses the point, and this is where J.D. had, and I know this word is overused, but I think you need it here.

00:09:06.340 He had an iconic response.

00:09:08.020 Well, Margaret, I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. 1.00

00:09:13.540 In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted, and then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our country.

00:09:21.460 That happened during the campaign, if you may remember.

00:09:23.880 So clearly not all of these foreign nationals have been properly vetted.

00:09:26.480 No, but there are 30,000 people in the pipeline, Afghan refugees.

00:09:29.340 But my primary concern as the vice president, Margaret, is to look after the American people.

00:09:33.940 And now that we know that we have vetting problems with a lot of these refugee programs, we absolutely cannot unleash thousands of unvetted people into our country. 1.00

00:09:43.600 These people are vetted.

00:09:44.560 These people are vetted.

00:09:45.420 Just like the guy who planned a terrorist attack in Oklahoma a few months ago.

00:09:48.460 He was allegedly properly vetted.

00:09:50.300 And many people in the media and the Democratic Party said that he was properly vetted.

00:09:54.380 Clearly he wasn't.

00:09:55.260 I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted.

00:10:00.440 And because I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens' kids to do that either.

00:10:05.420 No, and that was a very particular case.

00:10:07.420 It wasn't clear if he was radicalized when he got here or while he was living here.

00:10:11.240 I don't really care, Margaret.

00:10:12.280 I don't want that person in my country.

00:10:14.100 And I think most Americans agree with me.

00:10:17.280 There it is.

00:10:18.120 There's the mic drop.

00:10:19.780 I really don't care, Margaret.

00:10:21.740 So first of all, J.D. is so good at this, I think this is going to be a big feature of the second Trump administration.

00:10:28.160 Trump is going to send Vance out to do a lot of these shows.

00:10:30.600 Because Vance is really, really good at sparring with the journalists.

00:10:34.200 Trump is quite good at it in his own way.

00:10:36.440 But Vance is really, really good at being precise.

00:10:39.300 He knows the party line.

00:10:41.000 He's obviously deeply educated and intelligent.

00:10:43.780 And he's articulate.

00:10:44.880 He's just really good at this, okay?

00:10:46.260 I could see this being a huge part of the vice president's role in the second Trump administration.

00:10:50.520 And that's what he grills her on here.

00:10:52.960 She says, well, actually, they're vetted immigrants, okay?

00:10:56.260 And they're all vetted.

00:10:57.120 And he says, yeah, what about the guy who just performed a terrorist attack?

00:10:59.920 That guy was supposedly vetted.

00:11:01.420 Okay, that was a really particular case.

00:11:04.020 And I don't actually, I don't think that really counts.

00:11:06.820 Because he was wearing a blue t-shirt.

00:11:08.780 And it wasn't like a beige t-shirt.

00:11:12.460 And he had just gotten a haircut.

00:11:14.320 He was having a rough day.

00:11:15.360 He woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

00:11:16.660 And he just cuts her off.

00:11:17.460 He says, you know, I really don't care, Margaret.

00:11:20.520 We're not going to let him in.

00:11:22.620 Okay, that's it.

00:11:24.880 That is the response.

00:11:27.160 That needs to be the Republican response to all of these people.

00:11:33.280 Make America Great Again is probably the greatest political slogan of our time.

00:11:37.400 Just below that is, I really don't care, Margaret.

00:11:42.420 Yeah, I really, we're not going to do it.

00:11:44.720 The arguments I've just made are really good, Margaret.

00:11:48.040 And you're being obtuse.

00:11:50.040 And you're keeping your head in the sand.

00:11:52.620 And that's fine.

00:11:53.500 I guess that's your prerogative.

00:11:54.860 But we just want unified government from the American people.

00:11:58.100 And most people don't want some face-tattooed criminal illegal alien in their neighborhood. 1.00

00:12:03.060 And look, I don't have to deal with it because I'm like a rich, powerful guy.

00:12:07.080 But I care about my country, unlike the rich, powerful liberals.

00:12:10.460 So if I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force other Americans to have it for their kids.

00:12:15.100 And you know, I just really don't care, Margaret.

00:12:18.740 I love it so much.

00:12:21.500 There was a clip years ago, also on CBS, actually, of Scalia talking to Leslie Stahl.

00:12:27.540 And Leslie Stahl was asking Scalia to explain how torture was not cruel and unusual punishment.

00:12:32.540 They said, well, it's because it's not punishment.

00:12:34.060 It's a tactic to get information, but it's not punishment.

00:12:36.020 And she couldn't process this.

00:12:37.880 She said, no, but she, but no, you know, it's like you're trying to beat the you-know-what out of them.

00:12:43.100 And she's just stammering over her words.

00:12:45.180 And at a certain point, he cuts her off and says, well, anyway, that's my opinion.

00:12:49.480 And it happens to be correct.

00:12:51.820 And this is the new version of that.

00:12:53.880 Yeah, well, anyway, I really don't care, Margaret.

00:12:57.900 We're deporting them.

00:12:59.080 I'm sorry. 0.76

00:12:59.740 I'm sorry that you're so upset that we deport face-tattooed Mexican Satanists and Taliban members. 1.00

00:13:07.080 Yeah, I know.

00:13:07.580 I know that upsets you, but I really don't care.

00:13:11.500 Now, I do care what you have to say, which is why I want you to know how to submit voicemail back questions.

00:13:18.380 It's very simple.

00:13:18.840 You go to dailywire.com, you click the watch page, you click the Michael Knowles show.

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00:13:25.200 Then you click submit a mailbag question.

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00:13:29.120 It just opens up a little email box.

00:13:30.340 You can send the written mailbag.

00:13:31.340 Or if you want to send a voicemail bag, here's what you do.

00:13:34.060 You record it on your phone, however you record audio.

00:13:36.440 But I am imploring you.

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00:13:39.520 Keep these voicemails to less than a minute.

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00:13:51.180 So you have to limit it, okay?

00:13:53.260 So you record your voice message, add it to the email, and then send it in.

00:13:58.200 And then I will get to hear your beautiful dulcet tones, your mellifluous voice on Friday.

00:14:04.680 Now, speaking of immigration policy, we have the numbers.

00:14:10.740 President Trump's first week, he arrested 538 illegal aliens, and he deported hundreds more.

00:14:16.480 That's according to the White House.

00:14:18.740 It's great.

00:14:19.260 I'm not knocking it.

00:14:20.000 This is a breath of fresh air.

00:14:21.200 You're really not going to hear complaints out of me.

00:14:23.140 However, we need to recognize what this is.

00:14:26.460 And that is a good start.

00:14:29.040 This is not the best it's going to be.

00:14:31.620 I hope not.

00:14:32.180 This is not a huge show of force.

00:14:36.120 No.

00:14:37.260 538 people plus hundreds more.

00:14:40.140 Let's be generous and say that hundreds more takes the total arrested and deported to 1,000.

00:14:47.840 1,000 per week comes out to 52,000 per year.

00:14:53.320 52,000 per year comes out to 208,000 per term.

00:14:57.120 And President Trump's only getting one term.

00:14:58.700 Unless Andy Ogles' constitutional amendment goes through, which probably will not happen.

00:15:02.960 You're talking about, at this rate, deporting 208,000 people.

00:15:05.960 Now, I think we should give President Trump a little break here, okay?

00:15:09.060 He's been a little bit busy this week.

00:15:11.120 He's accomplished an extraordinary amount in the first week.

00:15:13.960 However, we need to dramatically ramp up the deportations.

00:15:20.940 I'm not even saying by 20% or 50%.

00:15:23.640 I'm talking about by orders of magnitude.

00:15:26.060 You need to radically ramp up the deportations.

00:15:29.400 The conservative estimates say that there are between 11 and 16.8 million illegal aliens in the United States.

00:15:36.060 Some people think the number is much, much higher than that.

00:15:38.540 But I'm using conservative estimates, 11 to 16.8 million.

00:15:43.960 So that means that right now, if we just deport 208,000 illegals per year, that we will have deported 1.2% to a little under 2%.

00:15:54.120 It's just not enough.

00:15:57.060 That's just, that's not even close.

00:15:58.760 So it has to ramp up dramatically.

00:16:03.880 Now, the political problem is that illegal aliens have families here. 0.91

00:16:09.320 So it's going to create a big issue if you start deporting people's, like, Aunt Gertrude.

00:16:13.700 I guess their names aren't Gertrude, but it'd be like Aunt, you know, Maria or something.

00:16:17.220 So I understand the political problem.

00:16:19.300 But even if you are only deporting the really, really bad ones, you need to ramp that up dramatically.

00:16:25.800 Which I trust will be done.

00:16:28.640 Again, you're not going to hear complaints out of me.

00:16:30.260 This is the first week of a presidential administration in my lifetime.

00:16:33.100 It's all phenomenal.

00:16:34.340 I'm all into it.

00:16:35.220 But let's just keep these numbers in mind.

00:16:38.200 Just to even have an appreciation for the scale of the problem that President Trump faces.

00:16:43.560 Do you know how hard it is to deport 11 to 17 million people or more?

00:16:48.940 It's really hard.

00:16:50.600 Okay, so I'll give them a little grace, but it means we've got to ramp things up a little bit.

00:16:54.100 Now, the Libs are complaining because President Trump's first deportation flights were expensive, according to them.

00:17:03.760 This is the argument.

00:17:04.480 According to the Mirror UK, Trump's first deportation flights, with average of just 80 migrants, cost up to $852,000 per trip.

00:17:16.120 All right, that's expensive.

00:17:18.460 I agree.

00:17:19.300 Just 80 migrants on the flights, and it cost $850,000 per trip.

00:17:25.300 That's, okay, so what, $10,000 per flight, per seat, rather?

00:17:33.580 Okay, but let's put this into perspective.

00:17:35.640 How much does it cost just to have illegal aliens in the country? 1.00

00:17:41.720 By the way, these are the very worst. 1.00

00:17:43.120 So these are the ones who are killing people and raping people and committing all sorts of particularly heinous crimes,

00:17:48.200 which you can't really put a dollar number on, but in as much as you can, cost a lot of money.

00:17:53.820 But I'm actually putting that aside.

00:17:55.100 I'm saying your regular, average, illegal alien who does not go out and murder people and rob and commit all sorts of other crimes.

00:18:01.740 In the state of California, which is where I am right now, it costs $132,860 to keep a prisoner in California for a year.

00:18:14.420 Okay?

00:18:15.880 That's just what it costs.

00:18:17.220 So if we're just going to arrest the illegal aliens and not deport them, that costs a lot of money. 0.86

00:18:22.600 And Trump is only deporting criminal aliens right now.

00:18:26.460 Now, the Federation for American Immigration Reform Fair says that each illegal or U.S.-born child of an illegal alien costs $8,776 annually.

00:18:38.160 That is not people in prison.

00:18:39.600 That is not people who are committing crimes.

00:18:41.200 That's just your average old illegal alien. 0.97

00:18:44.440 Heritage Foundation in 2010 found that each unlawful immigrant household costs $14,387.

00:18:50.540 That is cost for services offset by the taxes paid.

00:18:53.640 So that's being as generous as we can to the illegal alien households. 0.85

00:18:56.840 Still costs over $14,000 a year per household.

00:18:59.640 That's an outdated number.

00:19:00.760 That's 2010.

00:19:01.500 The number is certainly much higher now.

00:19:04.040 According to the Center for Immigration Studies, the average household headed by an immigrant, legal or illegal, costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits. 0.96

00:19:13.460 It's not counting state benefits.

00:19:14.820 That is 41% higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.

00:19:20.640 Household, Native American, I'm not talking about the feathers and the tomahawks.

00:19:24.120 I'm talking about regular old Americans. 0.88

00:19:26.400 Okay.

00:19:26.620 So even take out the $132,000, $133,000 to keep a prisoner. 0.89

00:19:32.900 And these guys are criminals. 0.77

00:19:35.760 Just regular old illegal aliens cost a ton of money. 0.99

00:19:40.000 This flight is a good deal.

00:19:42.800 Even if you're going to pay $850,000 for a flight of 80 people, which I assume the costs can come down a little bit.

00:19:48.020 But even if you are, that's a good deal.

00:19:50.120 The libs are walking into a little bit of a trap here from the immigration restrictionists, which is they're saying, look how expensive this is.

00:19:56.920 And the immigration restrictionists, even just the people who want to enforce the law, are saying, yeah.

00:20:01.100 Do you have any idea how expensive it is just to have illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:20:05.180 Because the libs will say, well, no, but they pay taxes.

00:20:08.120 And, you know, they don't even get Social Security or whatever.

00:20:10.760 Yeah.

00:20:11.040 Okay.

00:20:11.700 Even the small amount of taxes that they do pay, and they do pay some taxes, when you consider that with the welfare benefits that they receive, not even counting the crimes that they commit, it costs us money to have them.

00:20:26.320 Okay.

00:20:26.620 They're a drag on the economy.

00:20:27.820 So you want to come here with numbers to me?

00:20:29.700 You want to come here and talk about the costs of the planes?

00:20:31.680 All right.

00:20:31.900 Let's talk about costs.

00:20:33.300 President Trump, once again, the art of the deal, great negotiator, getting us a really good price.

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00:21:41.620 Speaking of Latinos, one of my favorite Latinos, Javier Millet, the president of Argentina,

00:21:47.040 just went to Davos, to the World Economic Forum, to call all of those liberal elites pedophiles.

00:21:53.380 Promove the agenda LGBT, queriendo imponernos que las mujeres son hombres y las hombres son mujeres. 0.99

00:21:58.040 Promove the LGBT agenda. 0.98

00:21:59.260 It says that women are men and men are women. 0.96

00:22:01.420 Only if that is how they perceive themselves.

00:22:04.460 They say nothing when a man disguises himself as a woman and kills his rival in a boxing ring. 0.79

00:22:09.720 Or when a prisoner claims to be a woman and ends up raping any woman who crosses his path in prison. 0.85

00:22:14.660 Without going any further, a few weeks ago, the case of two American homosexuals who fly on the flag of sexual diversity 0.89

00:22:20.580 and were sentenced to 100 years in prison for abusing and filming their adopted children for more than two years made headlines around the world.

00:22:29.060 I want to be clear that when I say abuse, it's not a euphemism, because in its most extreme versions, gender ideology constitutes plain and simple child abuse.

00:22:41.080 So true. 0.98

00:22:42.160 They are pedophiles. 0.95

00:22:43.600 Therefore, I want to know who endorses these behaviors. 0.99

00:22:46.060 I want to know who endorses these behaviors, because they're pedophiles too. 0.80

00:22:51.900 Javier Millet, coming out swinging, man.

00:22:54.900 And, you know, I met him a week ago at the Trump inauguration, and I just had to translate what he said because Javier Millet doesn't speak English.

00:23:04.380 Which is why, actually, in our picture together, I couldn't.

00:23:07.320 I was speaking to him in English, but his security guard was yelling at me because I was holding a martini.

00:23:12.020 And I don't know.

00:23:12.420 I'm sure that guy's under a ton of threats, and he might have thought that I was going to, you know, throw a martini on him or worse.

00:23:17.560 But anyway, in the picture, because Millet didn't understand a word I was saying, he's looking at me like I'm about to pounce on him or something.

00:23:24.360 But that guy, he's got the right idea over at WEF.

00:23:27.640 It's pretty simple.

00:23:28.760 You know, it's like Oren McIntyre has that meme that he posts.

00:23:31.840 He says, it's not so complicated.

00:23:35.060 These people just want to diddle kids. 1.00

00:23:37.220 You know, and it doesn't explain the whole ideology, but it does explain some of it.

00:23:41.580 At a certain point, if a group of people continues to condone abusive behaviors, just needlessly support ideologies that conduce toward child abuse and that really damage the lives of children and that put vulnerable people in really bad situations.

00:24:02.720 At a certain point, I'm going to stop defending you and saying, well, you might have the best of intentions.

00:24:07.900 At a certain point, you're complicit, okay?

00:24:10.120 That's true, not just of the gender ideology.

00:24:13.040 That's true on immigration.

00:24:14.200 That's true.

00:24:15.040 I understand why someone might want more immigration or even open borders.

00:24:18.580 But at a certain point, when people are getting, like, murdered and raped and face-tattooed Satanists or hopping the border poisoning Americans, at a certain point, you lose my sympathy, okay?

00:24:28.780 At a certain point, we just have to enforce the law.

00:24:31.260 Now, there's a story that DW has got.

00:24:36.660 We'll have a longer Twitter thread on this later today.

00:24:40.120 But, you know, Trump is succeeding at dismantling DEI, which is really, really great.

00:24:45.820 You're seeing these initiatives across the federal government.

00:24:48.260 You're seeing downstream effects of that.

00:24:50.300 However, we cannot get complacent because the libs in the federal government, at the state level, and at the local level are going to try to resist this.

00:25:00.600 And they're going to try really hard, and they're going to try immediately.

00:25:03.180 There's one story, which we have from a school district in Colorado, Durango.

00:25:09.100 The school board received a complaint that one of the classrooms was flying a Black Lives Matter and a Pride Progress flag.

00:25:19.000 Pride Progress is the Pride flag, but it's got the trans and the BLM and, I don't know, it's like the terrorist Pride flag. 0.94

00:25:26.160 So we're flying these flags.

00:25:27.080 And a mother said, I want these flags in the classroom.

00:25:31.080 So there was a review by the chief academic officer.

00:25:34.200 And the chief academic officer said, yeah, all right, well, if the teacher's going to fly that, then we need an open forum for all flags.

00:25:39.440 You know, this could be a First Amendment issue.

00:25:41.020 And the district's lawyers did not want this open forum because they feared, and we have documentation of this, that the apparatchiks in the school board and the school district feared that this could open the pathway to a straight Lives Matter flag in the classroom.

00:25:58.640 Could you imagine heaven forfend?

00:26:00.180 We can't have that.

00:26:00.900 So the district, the Durango School District, has decided that what they're going to do is they're going to redefine things like Black Lives Matter, Black Power, Pride, as government speech.

00:26:15.940 Not political speech, but government speech.

00:26:18.200 Now, I don't know the local laws.

00:26:20.340 I don't know exactly how these lawyers are in a Jesuitical way trying to parse the difference.

00:26:25.320 Obviously, government speech is political speech.

00:26:27.600 Political speech does pertain to government speech.

00:26:29.280 But I guess this is a legal distinction that would allow them to create protections for radical leftist ideology in the classroom, radical leftist indoctrination, but not trigger an open forum for other people to express their far more normal political views.

00:26:43.720 The board is furious about this.

00:26:45.380 They're referring to parents, concerned parents, as outside adults.

00:26:49.380 Is adults important to the child?

00:26:52.420 This is giving Biden vibes, you know.

00:26:54.740 This is giving radical extremist parent sorts of connotations.

00:27:00.880 So they're considering this resolution now.

00:27:05.000 They still want to embrace trans in the classroom.

00:27:07.400 They still want to embrace so-called gender affirming care, which is child abuse, as Javier Malay rightly pointed out at Davos. 0.60

00:27:14.020 This district, by the way, should probably be a little careful because one of their teachers was arrested for child pornography.

00:27:20.260 It's allegedly one of the teachers who was flying the pride flag was arrested for possession of child pornography and attempting to entice a child.

00:27:27.380 Okay.

00:27:27.740 So if I were this school district, I would be pretty cautious with the old pride flag. 0.96

00:27:32.440 They're not.

00:27:33.100 They're trying to enshrine all of this radical leftism, contrary to the national movement against DEI, contrary to the national movement against gender ideology.

00:27:44.980 I mean, President Trump won unified government in large part because of these issues.

00:27:49.340 But you're seeing so much pushback, ways to hide the programs, ways to legally protect them while not protecting conservative speech.

00:27:55.600 That's going on.

00:27:56.740 So, you know, we like the wins.

00:27:58.660 We're applauding President Trump.

00:27:59.880 We're so happy.

00:28:00.800 You need to dig in at the local level, at the state level, even at the federal level.

00:28:05.560 We're going to have to dig in because the leftists are not going to go down without a fight.

00:28:11.080 Now, speaking of elites, breaking news, pull over your car, sit down if you're standing up.

00:28:20.360 The New York Times is reporting that the CIA now favors the lab leak theory to explain COVID's origins.

00:28:28.480 That story is from, what, January 25th, 2025.

00:28:37.240 You might recall, you might recall during COVID, this New York Times headline,

00:28:41.940 Senator Tom Cotton repeats fringe theory of COVID origins.

00:28:48.260 Scientists have dismissed suggestions that the Chinese government was behind the outbreak.

00:28:53.960 But it's the kind of tale that gains traction among those who see China as a threat.

00:28:57.860 Fringe theory, totally crazy.

00:29:02.860 Oh, actually, the CIA agrees.

00:29:04.360 So now we, the New York Times, are going to admit it five years later.

00:29:08.160 Okay, well, congrats to the New York Times, the paper of record, for admitting an obvious fact

00:29:13.580 five years after everyone with two brain cells to rub together knew it.

00:29:18.920 But even this headline is not accurate.

00:29:22.360 This headline is obviously dishonest.

00:29:24.980 Because it says, CIA now favors lab leak theory.

00:29:28.300 That's not true.

00:29:29.820 The CIA doesn't now favor anything.

00:29:33.880 Trump is now the president.

00:29:35.880 That's what happens.

00:29:36.800 That's, you could change the headline to, Trump is now the president.

00:29:39.540 And so the CIA needs to get in line.

00:29:44.300 Yeah, that Trump was the president back in 2020.

00:29:46.440 When Trump was the president, that time, that time around, the first go-round, the deep state

00:29:54.760 was doing everything it could to cut down this guy's administration.

00:29:59.300 Before he even became president, the FBI and the DOJ were trying to kill his administration.

00:30:04.680 Then they did, they continued that effort through the Mueller investigation.

00:30:07.960 You had the intelligence agencies conspiring against him, lying about him.

00:30:13.120 Chuck Schumer even joked about it.

00:30:14.220 He said, don't make enemies at the intel agencies.

00:30:16.120 They'll get you 20 ways from Sunday.

00:30:19.660 Trump is out of office.

00:30:21.440 Then they try to throw him in prison. 0.70

00:30:23.000 They establish the justification to kill him, which almost happened twice.

00:30:26.120 And he comes back in, and they just lost.

00:30:29.360 Okay, the libs seem really demoralized right now.

00:30:31.840 The agencies grudgingly seem to be getting in line.

00:30:34.500 Trump seems to be exerting more power over them.

00:30:36.100 And coincidentally, right now, the CIA says, oh yeah, actually, the Republicans might have

00:30:40.780 been right.

00:30:42.440 We've known this.

00:30:44.520 We've known this for a long time.

00:30:46.780 Okay?

00:30:47.740 The New York Times, I think, knew this for a long time.

00:30:50.960 The only question to me is not, did the virus originate in a lab leak?

00:30:57.400 That was obvious.

00:30:58.540 That has been for years.

00:30:59.320 The question is, was it intentional or unintentional?

00:31:02.280 That's what I want to know.

00:31:03.740 And I don't know the answer to that.

00:31:05.520 Did the Chinese government intentionally leak COVID?

00:31:08.380 Because when I look at the ways that people were conspiring against Trump back in 2020,

00:31:12.320 2019, 2020, I can't help but notice that Trump was waging a successful trade war against China.

00:31:18.600 And then, and Trump was looking like he was going to sail to re-election victory.

00:31:23.080 And COVID was the way to, first of all, for China to stop that trade war.

00:31:27.640 And COVID was also the way to give Democrats justification to change all the election rules.

00:31:31.920 So I don't know.

00:31:32.380 I'm not saying that it was intentional.

00:31:33.960 I don't have any evidence that it was intentional.

00:31:35.740 It might not have been intentional.

00:31:37.160 But I could see that as a possibility.

00:31:39.520 At the very least, that's the debate.

00:31:41.500 But the New York Times and the CIA, for that matter.

00:31:44.620 I'm sick of it with the CIA.

00:31:47.040 And the administrative government.

00:31:49.440 These guys are pretending that the real controversy is over a debate that was effectively resolved five years ago.

00:31:55.160 No, let's go.

00:31:55.980 Let's move on, buddy.

00:31:56.820 It's the Trump era.

00:31:57.540 I know you're trying to catch up, but you're going to have to move a little faster.

00:32:02.160 Now, also very exciting news in the Trump era.

00:32:06.040 Pete Hegseth has been confirmed by the skin of his teeth to be the Secretary of Defense.

00:32:10.660 Collins, Murkowski, and good old Mitch McConnell, three Republican senators, voted against Pete Hegseth.

00:32:21.500 And nevertheless, he overcame.

00:32:23.080 We will get to how that went down.

00:32:25.340 We'll get to another shocking vote that might switch to get RFK through in a moment.

00:32:29.660 First, I want to tell you about my favorite comment of the day.

00:32:32.700 That was on Friday.

00:32:33.920 Spider-Man and Jenny says, two terms for president only, two terms for Congress as well.

00:32:38.760 No exceptions because some people love Trump and seem sycophantic.

00:32:43.480 It's either sympathetic or sycophantic.

00:32:45.280 Maybe it's both.

00:32:46.180 That's a nice new word.

00:32:47.560 It's a nice neologism.

00:32:49.080 Look, I get the point.

00:32:50.960 However, I'll point out Ronald Reagan disagreed with you.

00:32:53.500 Ronald Reagan wanted to repeal the 22nd Amendment.

00:32:56.260 He thought that there are term limits at the ballot box.

00:33:00.380 We have a natural kind of term limit in our American republic, and that is the voters at the ballot box.

00:33:09.360 Now, some people think that incumbency is too hard to overcome.

00:33:13.120 Maybe.

00:33:13.740 I do not favor term limits.

00:33:15.280 Certainly not for the House of Representatives.

00:33:17.620 Not really for the Senate.

00:33:19.100 And I'm basically with Reagan, even on the presidency.

00:33:23.000 And, well, Trump actually says he doesn't want to serve a third term.

00:33:25.320 But I'm with Reagan, at least.

00:33:26.280 I don't think there should really be term limits.

00:33:27.760 Because there will be power.

00:33:33.020 This is the thing.

00:33:33.800 People want term limits because they think that it's going to limit power. 0.99

00:33:37.560 But the power just exists.

00:33:39.460 There is just a certain amount of power that is to be wielded in the government.

00:33:43.520 The question is, by whom?

00:33:46.120 Is it going to be wielded by the elected representative?

00:33:48.600 Is it going to be wielded by the staffers and the committee staffers in the House?

00:33:52.760 Is it going to be wielded by lobbyists?

00:33:54.940 Is it going to be wielded by bureaucrats in the administrative state?

00:33:58.120 That's the only question.

00:33:59.280 But there will not be a reduction in power.

00:34:02.240 So when you limit the power of the elected representatives, it just goes to one of the other guys.

00:34:07.700 It just goes to a staffer or a bureaucrat or a lobbyist.

00:34:13.840 It just goes to one of them.

00:34:15.080 So that's why I get it.

00:34:16.340 You know, I understand the impulse to say, no, we need term limits everywhere.

00:34:19.220 But I think term limits moves power from people who at least constitutionally ought to have the power

00:34:25.220 to people who wield it in much worse ways.

00:34:28.840 So I'm not, I get it, but I wouldn't be so quick about that.

00:34:31.500 So Pete Hegseth, 51-50 confirmed as SecDef.

00:34:37.960 On this vote, the yeas are 50 and the nays are 50. 0.94

00:34:42.020 The Senate being equally divided, the vice president votes in the affirmative, and the nomination is confirmed.

00:34:52.240 Here we go.

00:34:53.000 The hits keep coming for J.D. Vance.

00:34:54.480 He had to break the tie because he's the president of the Senate as vice president of the United States.

00:34:58.280 So he goes down there.

00:34:59.280 He joked, he said, I thought I was done voting in the Senate.

00:35:01.880 Okay, well, we'll vote.

00:35:04.000 So Collins and Murkowski, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski,

00:35:07.440 squished senators from Maine and Alaska, respectively.

00:35:11.760 We kind of expected them not to vote for Pete.

00:35:15.860 They're the squishy ones.

00:35:17.260 They're the moderate ones.

00:35:18.460 That's just, in part, that's how they got elected.

00:35:20.900 Okay, Mitch McConnell, that was unfortunate.

00:35:22.860 Mitch McConnell voted against Hegseth on the DGAF anymore principle.

00:35:31.200 You know, he's not going to run for re-election.

00:35:33.140 He's 150 years old.

00:35:34.480 He's no longer even the Senate majority leader.

00:35:36.420 He's done.

00:35:37.060 He doesn't care.

00:35:37.640 He doesn't like Pete for whatever reason.

00:35:39.440 He doesn't seem to like Trump very much.

00:35:41.240 Okay.

00:35:42.280 He voted against him.

00:35:43.100 So people initially, when I saw Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski post these essays to X explaining why they were going to vote against Pete, 0.99

00:35:53.500 my first impulse was, you jerks, we're going to primary you. 0.99

00:35:56.800 How dare you? 1.00

00:35:57.620 We're not going to forget this.

00:35:58.780 But then I thought, hold on.

00:35:59.900 They're both posting this at the same time, maybe because Pete has the votes.

00:36:09.220 That sometimes happens.

00:36:10.940 Sometimes they'll hold off.

00:36:12.100 They'll say, I don't know who I'm going to vote for.

00:36:13.320 I don't know how I'm going to vote on a certain bill until they know that the other side has the votes.

00:36:18.540 And then they'll say, okay, now I have cover to vote against this person.

00:36:21.460 Then I can get re-elected and I don't need to worry about my constituents.

00:36:25.300 In the case of McConnell, that wasn't a concern.

00:36:27.620 I think McConnell just doesn't like Pete and doesn't like Trump that much.

00:36:31.380 But when I saw those two pop up, my second thought was, oh, good, Pete's got it.

00:36:36.400 And he did have it.

00:36:37.400 And I don't care.

00:36:38.180 I don't care if Pete gets confirmed 51 to 50.

00:36:40.420 I don't care if he gets confirmed 99 to 1.

00:36:44.660 Whatever.

00:36:45.300 What matters is winning.

00:36:47.020 And this is what President Trump said.

00:36:48.140 President Trump was asked, are you disappointed that McConnell voted no?

00:36:51.140 And he had a cold as ice answer.

00:36:52.900 His answer was, no, I didn't even know that.

00:36:56.120 No, I don't know that.

00:36:58.040 I just heard that we won.

00:37:00.280 Winning is what matters, right?

00:37:02.220 And this is a principle that I quote frequently from Cocaine Mitch McConnell.

00:37:07.300 The winners go to Washington and the losers go home.

00:37:10.640 And it doesn't matter if you win by one vote or 100 votes.

00:37:14.420 Pete won.

00:37:15.480 Trump won.

00:37:16.200 Good start.

00:37:16.900 Now, as I've said from the beginning, they put Pete up as the first confirmation hearing

00:37:21.780 as the canary in the coal mine.

00:37:23.280 Pete is one of the most controversial nominees, along with Bobby Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbard,

00:37:29.860 Kash Patel.

00:37:31.320 So they threw Pete up there for the first confirmation hearing just as a trial balloon.

00:37:35.760 Then they had a bunch of boring confirmation hearings, people like Marco Rubio, where everyone

00:37:40.040 knew he was going to sail through.

00:37:41.280 It's no question whatsoever.

00:37:42.160 John Ratcliffe.

00:37:42.880 They all knew he was going to get it.

00:37:45.300 And then they were saving Tulsi, RFK Jr., Kash Patel for later on.

00:37:50.160 The fact that Pete was able to get through is good news for Tulsi, RFK, and Kash Patel.

00:37:56.480 But RFK's got some more good news, which is the Democrat senator, Sheldon Whitehouse, senator

00:38:02.740 from Rhode Island, reportedly might vote for Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:38:07.740 That's really weird.

00:38:08.500 Why is that?

00:38:10.520 Because they're college buddies.

00:38:13.900 That's why.

00:38:14.680 That's actually why.

00:38:15.300 According to a Politico reporter, Whitehouse has not ruled out the possibility of voting

00:38:21.980 for Kennedy.

00:38:22.440 He says, I'm not going to reveal how I'm voting on any nominee.

00:38:25.940 He gave a similar answer to Slate.

00:38:27.780 Said, there's a bunch of stuff I want from HHS.

00:38:29.660 I'm going to hold my fire on that.

00:38:30.900 I'm going to hold my fire on how I'm going to vote.

00:38:32.340 Turns out these guys have been buddies since law school.

00:38:35.040 And they used to go hiking together and hunting together.

00:38:37.680 And they've been friends for a real long time.

00:38:39.280 And because of that, it is being reported by swampy Beltway Press, Sheldon Whitehouse

00:38:46.060 might vote for Kennedy.

00:38:47.140 And I think that's great.

00:38:48.340 And this shows you yet again the strength of a non-traditional political coalition.

00:38:56.400 Okay, Trump has put together an eclectic political coalition.

00:39:00.340 And there are plenty of Republicans who don't like it.

00:39:03.020 I really like Tulsi Gabbard.

00:39:04.740 There are a lot of Republicans who don't like Tulsi Gabbard.

00:39:06.380 Okay, I don't really know much about Bobby Kennedy.

00:39:09.580 Even though he actually lived in the town over from where I grew up.

00:39:14.600 He lived in the town I was born in.

00:39:15.680 Went to church at my grandmother's church for like 60 years.

00:39:17.860 So I've been around him for a long time.

00:39:18.780 But I don't really know much about him.

00:39:19.980 He seems fine, I guess.

00:39:21.620 There are a lot of Republicans who have a much tougher view of Bobby Kennedy than I do.

00:39:25.680 Okay, there are some who just wish we were back in the Mitt Romney era.

00:39:30.220 And it was all the predictable Republicans wearing all the predictable Brooks Brothers suits.

00:39:33.440 And they all said the predictable things.

00:39:34.940 And that's not Trump.

00:39:35.700 Okay, Trump put together a wacky coalition.

00:39:38.120 But one of the benefits of the wacky coalition is, one, if you as a Republican keep losing elections,

00:39:44.620 with the McCain coalition, the Romney coalition, if you keep losing elections,

00:39:50.940 it means you've got to mix up your coalition a little bit.

00:39:53.640 So it at least gives you a shot to win.

00:39:55.420 But then, two, once you do win, it helps you get your guys across the line.

00:39:59.100 Because Kennedy is a Kennedy, okay?

00:40:00.900 The Kennedys are the dominant living family in Democrat politics.

00:40:07.560 At least they have been for most of our lifetime.

00:40:09.100 I think they probably are.

00:40:10.200 There's still a huge one, okay?

00:40:11.860 And he's on Trump's side.

00:40:16.040 And they're going to pull over some Democrats. 0.98

00:40:17.840 Even Tulsi might be able to pull some Democrats.

00:40:19.540 Now, speaking of Bobby Kennedy Jr. and, you know, health supplements, there is a really silly news story app that I have to pull.

00:40:30.300 It's from, this was published in CBS, though I like CBS recently, because CBS aired, I felt, a very fair piece on why men voted for Trump that I happen to be featured in.

00:40:40.840 And so, I'm not knocking CBS, but I am knocking this ridiculous idea put forward by a rabbi that psychedelics are an elephant in the room when talking about a sacred Jewish text.

00:40:55.180 And that psychedelics are actually maybe really important to the Jewish religion.

00:41:00.840 Now, I'm just going to do a quick fact check with my Jewish associate producer here.

00:41:04.480 Professor Jacob, are psychedelics a key part of the Jewish religion?

00:41:09.020 I've never talked about it.

00:41:10.120 He hasn't taken them.

00:41:11.280 That's good.

00:41:11.620 Could you imagine?

00:41:12.500 Could you imagine how off the wall he'd be if he had taken them?

00:41:14.520 But here's what the piece says.

00:41:16.480 I'll just read a little bit of it.

00:41:18.400 An existential question many people spend their lifetime seeking an answer to is, where can God be found?

00:41:25.180 Some in the Jewish faith believe they already know the answer to that question and say psychedelics helped them get there.

00:41:31.300 Yes, God, this is a quote.

00:41:32.920 Yes, God's in the trees and God's in the bush and God's in the plant and God's also within us.

00:41:37.440 And the breath leads us straight back to God within us, explains Meyer K., the co-founder and lead facilitator of Adama, an organization that it says cultivates safe and sacred containers for Jewish men to, quote, discover their true selves and connect in brotherhood, health, masculinity, and divine connection.

00:41:57.980 Now, this strikes me not as some part of the traditional Jewish religion, but, well, to quote Norm Macdonald, this strikes me as a bunch of commie gobbledygook. 0.86

00:42:11.100 A bunch of new age commie gobbledygook.

00:42:13.440 The piece goes on, says, a 2023 peer-reviewed study in psychopharmacology found that the percentage of participants who identified as believing in God or a higher power increased from 29% to 59% after psychedelic use.

00:42:26.360 And I could believe that.

00:42:28.200 Rabbi Harry Rosenberg advocates for the use of psychedelics for healing and connection.

00:42:32.720 Rosenberg believes the Torah, Judaism's most sacred text, may describe psychedelic experiences.

00:42:38.160 He believes divinity lives in all of us and for some psychedelics help access it.

00:42:41.520 Okay.

00:42:42.200 Okay.

00:42:43.300 The reason I bring this up is not just because it seems a little quirky from the Jewish perspective, but because I have friends who have told me this.

00:42:52.680 I have multiple friends.

00:42:54.280 At this point, I might say many friends who have told me, you know, man, Michael, taking psychedelics really helped me understand, man, peace.

00:43:03.540 And, you know, that this world isn't all there is.

00:43:06.380 I broke through the veil, man.

00:43:08.060 It really brought me closer to the divine.

00:43:10.740 You know what I mean, brother?

00:43:12.940 They didn't all talk quite like that, but it's pretty close.

00:43:15.840 And I've heard this.

00:43:17.580 However, I can't help but notice that people who take psychedelics never come out of their experiences more aware of their own deficiencies.

00:43:28.340 I can't help but notice to really drive the point home for religion, people who take psychedelics never seem to come out of them more aware of their need for a savior.

00:43:39.360 You notice that?

00:43:40.100 In fact, one friend I was talking to, in fact, I've actually heard this from multiple friends.

00:43:45.480 They say, yeah, man, you know, took some drugs and then, you know, I just realized there's no sin.

00:43:51.820 There's no sin, man.

00:43:52.800 I don't need to be hung up all the time on sins and stuff.

00:43:55.020 You think, no, actually, there is sin and you do need to be hung up on it.

00:43:58.060 And you need to feel bad about it and you need to confess your sins and you need to stop doing them.

00:44:02.580 That's at least what God says to do.

00:44:05.560 I don't know whatever drug cooked up in a Mexican bathtub you take does, but that's what God says to do. 1.00

00:44:10.540 I'd be very wary, very wary of the psychedelic religion because they're being really mainstreamed right now.

00:44:17.680 I don't know, man.

00:44:19.580 The devil appears as an angel of light sometimes.

00:44:22.520 You kind of judge the tree by its fruit, don't you?

00:44:25.240 Do you think, like, burned out hippies have the clearest view of religion and morality?

00:44:29.680 Probably not.

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