Ep. 1667 - Trump's Gaza Takeover EXPLAINED in 4 Minutes
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Trump announces that the U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it too. We ll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the destroyed buildings, and create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area.
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After almost a year and a half of war between Israel and Hamas,
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after 77 years of regular war between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs,
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President Trump might have just solved the question of who gets Gaza.
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Is it the Muslims? Is it the Jews? No, it's Trump.
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The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too.
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We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs
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and other weapons on the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings,
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level it out, create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs
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Do a real job, do something different, just can't go back.
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If you go back, it's going to end up the same way it has for 100 years.
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This man has never set his eyes on a piece of real estate that he did not want to acquire.
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Even in ruined Gaza, not the most lush real estate you've ever seen,
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The Gaza Strip Mall, Mag Gaza, the art of the deal.
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Or is he actually trying to make a different deal entirely?
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Now, I think, putting President Trump's proposal for Gaza aside,
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most fair-minded people can acknowledge that when we're talking about who really has the right to the Gaza Strip,
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it is neither the Muslims nor the Jews, it is King Baldwin III.
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I think most people with even a passing familiarity with history and the law,
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who have even a modicum of integrity and fairness,
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would recognize it belongs to King Baldwin and his successors.
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I also noticed, someone pointed this out on X last night,
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King Baldwin bears a striking similarity, an odd resemblance to Barron Trump,
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Of all, you say, hey, we're going to get Greenland.
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I think, oh, Greenland, that's beautiful, a lot of resources, strategic up in the Arctic.
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Hey, we're going to take back the Panama Canal.
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Okay, that definitely very strategic, very much in America's national security interest.
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I totally under, we never should have given it up in the first place during the Carter administration.
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Some people are suggesting that this was just a deal that Bibi Netanyahu cooked up.
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Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, was at the White House with President Trump yesterday.
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And this is Trump just doing Netanyahu's bidding.
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Now, great, okay, Bibi breaks it, and then Trump goes in and cleans it up, and it's all good for Israel.
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That's what Israel, but I got to tell you, the primary video footage of Trump's announcement has the camera focused just on Trump.
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If you look at the other angle, Bibi Netanyahu's expression does not look like the expression of someone who is thrilled about this proposal.
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This does not look like the expression of someone who even expected this proposal.
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Here's Trump's announcement from Netanyahu's angle.
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The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it, too.
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And be responsible for dismantling all of the...
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The minute that Trump announces we're going to take over the Gaza Strip, he's got his eyebrow raised.
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He looks out at the audience, kind of with an odd smirk, like, what is this guy talking about?
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He looks back at Trump, um, shifting all over, looking down at his notes.
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This is a man who's very much in command of his body.
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It's going to end up the same way it has for a hundred years.
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Keeps looking at, uh, how am I supposed to react here?
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...could be the beginning of a larger and more enduring piece that will end the...
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My administration has been moving quickly to restore trust in...
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I do not read this announcement as a secret deal that Trump and Netanyahu cooked up in the back room.
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Obviously, they've been talking about this issue, but I read this announcement from Trump as a move.
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I read this announcement from Trump as a part of a much larger negotiation.
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Not just a negotiation with the Palestinian Arabs or with Arab states, Muslim states in the region.
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I view this announcement as also part of a negotiation with the state of Israel.
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I don't know that Netanyahu really benefits from Trump coming in and saying, we own Gaza now.
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In part because if Trump claims Gaza, says that's ours now, that means the war is over.
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And if the war is over, that's bad for Netanyahu.
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One, to maintain his domestic political popularity.
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But two, because Hamas has not been totally dismantled yet.
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That was the strategic objective of the war in Gaza.
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After October 7th, Hamas leads this assault on Israel, Israeli civilians.
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And so Israel goes in and says, we can no longer accept the security threat on our border.
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The war has been going on almost a year and a half now.
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There's a ceasefire deal announced by Trump because when Trump got elected, he said, hey,
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Just wrap this thing up by the time I'm inaugurated.
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And Trump seems to be following through on that.
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A lot of people in Israel are upset by the ceasefire deal because they wanted the war
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to continue and they wanted Hamas to be further obliterated.
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Well, if the United States owns Gaza, then the Israelis can't drop any more bombs.
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Now, a lot of people are saying, we don't want to own Gaza.
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We don't want to be nation building in the Middle East.
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I'm just not convinced that Trump's statements yesterday reflect his true strategic objectives.
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I think, and I think we got a lot of evidence behind this now, that Trump sometimes talks
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past the sale, to use the language of Scott Adams.
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I think sometimes Trump throws things out there so that he can walk certain proposals back
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You know, he's written multiple books about this.
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He doesn't exactly hide the ball on negotiating.
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I mean, look, maybe there's going to be a big international Trump golf course and hotel
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Maybe I would be surprised by that, but that could happen.
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There, Trump and Netanyahu discuss it in the Oval Office.
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Would Palestinians have the right to return to Gaza if they left while the rebuilding was
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It would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good, where they wouldn't
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It's been one of the meanest, toughest places on Earth.
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And right now, I've seen every picture from every angle better than if I were there.
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So if we can build them through massive amounts of money supplied by other people, very rich
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If we can build something for them in one of the countries, and it could be Jordan, and
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it could be Egypt, it could be other countries, and you could build four or five or six areas.
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But you take certain areas and you build really good quality housing, like a beautiful town,
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like someplace where they can live and not die.
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Because Gaza is a guarantee that they're going to end up dying.
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And it's going to happen again, as sure as you're standing there, Peter.
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Okay, so the principle Trump's articulating at the end is, the definition of insanity is
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to keep doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results.
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So people who are saying that Trump's proposals here, maybe his proposals are sincere, maybe
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they're just a negotiating tactic, maybe he's exaggerating, maybe it's some combination.
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But Trump's response to that, his rejoinder is, no, you know what's insane?
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Just trying the same thing over and over and over again that has led to the exact same results
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You heard the question, I think, from Peter Doocy, will the Palestinians be permitted to return
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But will they be permitted to return, at least in principle?
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That looks like something they've been discussing.
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Egypt and Jordan are going to take them, which has been a big component of Israeli-Palestinian
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He says, they're going to stay in Egypt, or they're going to stay in Jordan.
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We're going to make nice places for them, big, beautiful condominiums.
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Which, you know how much I hate to say I told you so, but on this issue, I so totally told
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you so for years now, and I feel bad because it's an unpleasant situation, but I feel totally,
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totally vindicated the strategic goal in Gaza is now and has always been ethnic cleansing.
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We'll get to what that means in just a moment, because a lot of people don't understand what
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I got in so much trouble a year and a half ago when I said, look, the Israelis' goal in
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I got in trouble because people said, Michael, how dare you accuse the Israelis of genocide?
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I said, the strategic goal is ethnic cleansing.
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Genocide is when you exterminate an entire population.
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Ethnic cleansing is when you displace an entire population.
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Genocide, very clearly prohibited in international law.
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Ethnic cleansing, actually not so clearly prohibited, not totally addressed in international
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Not pleasant, not something that one generally encourages, ethnic cleansing.
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The stated goal of the Palestinian Arabs is now and has always been the ethnic cleansing
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And in fact, in many cases, the stated goal has been genocide of the Jews in the state of
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What is Israel supposed to expect from this little area of land on its west side?
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This area of land that is constantly shooting rockets into it that on October 7th of 2023 invades
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After October 7th, the Israeli state decided that Palestinians in Gaza were an unacceptable security
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And so even if it wasn't the stated objective, the clear strategic objective was the ethnic
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cleansing, the displacement of the people in Gaza.
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Now, there's really nowhere for them to live because the buildings have been leveled.
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But let's not forget the Palestinians stated goal.
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The goal actually that the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza voted for through the organization of
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Hamas was the ethnic cleansing of the Jews in the state of Israel.
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So the mutual goals of both belligerents here was the ethnic cleansing of the other.
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If you've been paying attention to this for even five minutes, if you have even two brain
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cells to rub together and you've spent any time focusing on this, this was obviously
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Now, one other notable statement came out of Trump's meeting with Netanyahu.
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The statement pertains to Iranian attempts to assassinate Trump.
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It's Iran and their proxies who have threatened to retaliate against you and your team by killing
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And that would be a terrible thing for them to do.
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And Biden should have said that, but he never did.
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If that happens to a leader or close to a leader, frankly, if you had other people involved
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also, you would call for total obliteration of a state that did it.
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This is a good threat because whatever you think about the threat from Iran on the United
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States, some people think that the threat against the United States is exaggerated from
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Whatever you think about it, Iran very much wants to assassinate Trump.
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And John Bolton and Mike Pompeo and other people.
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Because President Trump and all those other guys assassinated the top Iranian general,
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So they've been trying to kill Trump for a long time.
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What a just vague but terrifying threat if you're one of the mullahs in Iran.
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There won't be anything left of Iran if I'm assassinated.
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If I'm not assassinated, maybe we play nice with Iran.
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If I'm assassinated, if anyone even close to me is assassinated, there won't be anything
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I think Trump's comments on Gaza are not totally disconnected from those comments in response
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I said I'm going to build a hotel casino in Kanyunis.
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Denmark believes me when I'm making threats about Greenland.
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And Panama believes me when I'm making threats about the canal.
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And Mexico and Canada both believe me when I'm making threats about tariffs.
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So, hey, Iran, do you really want to take the chance?
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That's the point of the threat that Trump is making here against Iran.
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The only thing is Trump now needs to make sure that neither Netanyahu nor Mohammed bin
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Salman in Saudi Arabia assassinate him and make it look like Iran.
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Because if you are Bibi or MBS in Saudi Arabia, you're thinking, hold on, wait, Trump's
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promising to completely obliterate my arch enemy, Iran.
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I think actually Trump gets along very well with Netanyahu.
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Netanyahu said Trump is the biggest friend of the state of Israel that Israel has ever
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Saudi Arabia has a very, very good relationship with the Trump White House in particular.
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So I think a lot of these threats, especially getting back to Gaza, are he's making a huge
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claim here, a claim that he might follow through on.
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Which will then trigger states like Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Egypt and Israel, people in the
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region, to say, hold on, actually, no, we'll work out a deal.
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So I understand the legitimate concern from people, especially military families, who say,
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I don't want my boys going over there to build resorts in Gaza.
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But I would just say, you know, to sound like a hip, cool zoomer, let him cook.
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The guy, the guy's got a good track record on these things.
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Now, speaking of Trump and killing things, President Trump is, is announced after weeks
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of speculation that he will, in fact, end the Department of Education.
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And on the education department, why nominate Linda McMahon to be the education department
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secretary if you're going to get rid of the education department?
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Because I told Linda, Linda, I hope you do a great job and put yourself out of a job.
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So we're ranked number 40 out of 40 schools, right?
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So we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world.
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And what I want to do is let the states run schools.
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But in addition to that, I want the states to run schools.
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So do you think that's something you can do with an executive order?
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Look, if I could give the schools back to Iowa and Idaho and Indiana and all these places
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Is he going to end the Department of Education?
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He said he ran on ending the Department of Education.
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But then he appointed Linda McMahon to be the Secretary of Education, which seems like
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Just like Republicans have been promising to do for 45 years.
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When people claim that Trump is radical, we've never seen anything like this before.
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He speaks in a way that is jarring and maybe that we haven't experienced before.
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But in terms of what he is doing, you know what makes Trump unique?
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You know what makes him a singular, distinctive figure?
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It's not that he's got the craziest ideas ever.
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It's that he is actually following through on the kinds of promises that Republicans have
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We've been hearing that Republicans are going to end the Department of Education since Ronald
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Every Republican president, presidential candidate promises to do it.
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Just like getting back to the Middle East, we've been hearing for decades and decades that America
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is going to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
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Every Republican president was promising that, but then none of them did it.
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You want to know the big difference is Trump actually does the things that all the other
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The difference is actually integrity and follow through.
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How strange to say, given the popular portrayal of President Trump.
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Unfortunately, not last night, but two nights ago.
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Mailbag's coming up on Friday, so you've got to get your mailbag questions in.
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That means you go to your voice app, however you record your voice, and keep it to certainly
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Then I will hear your beautiful, dulcet, mellifluous tones on Friday.
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Washington Post as the symbol and mouthpiece of the liberal establishment.
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Elon Musk's Doge, Department of Government Efficiency, is illegal.
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This is what Elon is doing at Trump's behest to cut departments and fat away from the federal
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So says WAPO, so say all these Democrat senators, all these Democrat-talking heads, U.S. government
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Now they're apparently quoting these secret U.S. Trump officials that privately warn that
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The billionaire's Doge team has launched an all-out assault on federal agencies, triggering
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I'd like to give a little hat tip here to a great Twitter account, ex-account, Suit Moose
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Doge is not only not illegal, Doge isn't even original.
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Now, the Department of Government Efficiency is not some new idea that Elon cooked up sitting
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It's not some new idea that Trump cooked up on his own.
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We have had many examples of Doges in the history of the United States.
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And in fact, we've had Doges, we've had government efficiency initiatives in the executive branch
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that have been implemented in pretty similar ways to the ways that this is being implemented.
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There seems to be a little confusion about that.
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Doge is a temporary service nestled under the U.S. Digital Service.
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Doge is formally tasked with upgrading software, but it's really tasked with auditing the entire
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As the great Sutmus Esquire on X points out, Woodrow Wilson created a Bureau of Efficiency
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The purpose of the Bureau of Efficiency was essentially the purpose of Doge.
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After Wilson, FDR created the Brownlow Commission.
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Brownlow Commission ended with the creation of the executive office of the president, which
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Something like 1,800 staff members nestled in the executive office of the president.
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Most of them work in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building.
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That was created through an executive commission, pretty much like Doge.
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After FDR, President Truman created the Hoover Commission.
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The Hoover Commission was followed by another Reorganization Act.
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FDR got his changes through a Reorganization Act.
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That was followed by another Reorganization Act.
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But the Hoover Commission was just something that President Truman cooked up to create efficiencies
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Ronald Reagan, good old St. Gipper, had the Grace Commission.
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He created the Grace Commission via executive order, just like Trump created Doge.
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The purpose of the Grace Commission was to cut fat in the executive branch.
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And there was actually a campaign talking point that without the Grace Commission, the U.S.
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But they cut away so much fat that it didn't hit $13 trillion.
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It actually took another decade or more, more than that, to hit $13 trillion.
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Not just St. Reagan, not just even those old-timey Democrats, even real modern Democrats.
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Al Gore, when he was vice president, created the National Partnership for Reinventing Government.
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Same purpose as Doge, to create efficiencies in the government.
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The National Partnership for Reinventing Government eliminated over 100 government programs.
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Eliminated over a quarter million federal jobs.
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People are arguing now, Trump doesn't have the right.
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Elon Musk certainly doesn't have the right to be just deleting all of these federal jobs.
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A quarter million federal jobs, consolidated over 800 agencies.
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None of those commissions and bureaus and initiatives, none of them were created by Congress.
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None of them were created as a matter of law on Capitol Hill.
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Well, they were all created in the executive in the exact same way that Donald Trump created Doge.
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Chuck Schumer on Capitol Hill apparently didn't get the memo.
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And the American people, mark my words, the American people will not stand for an unelected secret group
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These are public institutions that deal with things like Social Security and Medicare and national defense
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and provide for the well-being of the American people.
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And the American people have a right to be part of that debate.
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And one viewpoint got a few more votes than the other.
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That doesn't mean what's been done for centuries in this country should just go out the window
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and be substituted by a small group of people who think they know a lot more than the wisdom of the American people.
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What's been done for a century in the United States is exactly what Trump is doing right now.
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Schumer, I guess, is just ignorant of his history.
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The aberration, the break with historical precedent,
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would be to have this whole thing run out of Congress.
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Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman, Reagan, Al freaking Gore.
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All of them did it the way that Trump is doing it.
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None of them did it the way that you're proposing, Chuck.
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His proposals are out of keeping with the American...
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He's acting very much within the law and within historical precedent.
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And just because you won a few more votes, a few more votes.
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It was a clear popular vote victory for a Republican for the first time in 20 years.
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Huge swaths of every demographic, even the ones that you most rely on.
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Just because of that doesn't mean that democracy is thrown out the window.
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If Trump did not implement Doge, that would be throwing democracy out the window.
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Don't forget, this isn't some secret group of people.
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I love he says, this is a secret group of people.
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He's one of the most public individuals on planet Earth.
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They haven't exactly hid the ball on this, Chuck Schumer.
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Trump campaigned on putting Elon Musk in charge of efficiency in the government.
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This is my same argument as to why the Senate needs to confirm Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy Jr.
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The argument for that is Trump campaigned on this.
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Maybe you like Tulsi, maybe you like Bobby, maybe you don't like either of them.
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You can't say that the American people didn't know what they were getting.
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Trump brought them up on stage with him at Madison Square Garden and said, this is what
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And by the way, also at Madison Square Garden and at many other rallies, he pulls Elon Musk
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He says, I'm going to put this guy in charge of creating efficiencies in the federal government.
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We don't need some secret group unaccountable to the people to be ruling us.
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Chuck, that's what you've been doing for the last four years.
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Does anybody, even if you think Biden got elected, does anybody think,
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We have no idea who's been running the country for four years.
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Most people are clear at this point it wasn't Joe Biden.
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Now, speaking of efficiencies, another great innovative proposal from overseas, or at least
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My favorite Latin American head of state, Naib Bukele, the leader of El Salvador, has made
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He has offered to imprison America's criminals.
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You know, Trump flies criminal aliens down to Colombia.
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Colombia says, no, no, gracias, no, we don't want that.
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And then, you know, then Trump works out a deal.
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He goes, oh, please, don't, not only should you bring us criminal El Salvadorans, not only
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should you bring us criminal illegal aliens, we'll take your criminal American citizens
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Naib Bukele, you want to know if that guy's good at one thing, he's good at many things,
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but if you want to know he's good at one thing, it is imprisoning very nasty criminals.
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That guy turned El Salvador from the most dangerous country on earth to the safest country
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And he did it by taking all the face tattooed Satan worshiping gangsters and throwing in
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a hellish prison and then videotaping them running around like cockroaches.
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And then broadcasting that to all the other face tattooed gangsters.
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He says, we've offered the United States of America the opportunity to outsource part
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We are willing to take in only convicted criminals, including convicted US citizens,
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I love this, into our mega prison, CECOT, in exchange for a fee.
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The fee would be relatively low for the US, but significant for us, making our entire prison
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You think the libs are saying, we need to end private prisons in America.
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I think Trump's outside the box thinking here can say, okay, great.
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We're just going to, we're going to outsource them to El Salvador.
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The libs won't arrest rapists and murderers and people who set subway cars on fire and
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they'll actually arrest the people who try to stop the bad guys.
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Well, now we got a new sheriff in town and you know what we're going to do?
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We're not only going to arrest our criminals, we're going to ship them off to Naib Bukele.
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That, I think he, if anyone can reform them, it's going to be that guy.
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It'd probably be a lot cheaper than imprisoning them in the United States.
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I don't know if people are going to go for it, but I like, I at least like that proposal
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as a starting point for criminal justice reform.
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Laz Tavos, who says,
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if smoking marijuana causes short-term memory loss, what does smoking marijuana do?
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I laughed when I read it, and I laughed when I read it a second time.
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My, speaking of, so wow, maybe I had short-term memory loss from that marijuana.
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Speaking of protecting Americans, Tulsi Gabbard has advanced out of committee.
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The Senate Intelligence Committee voted yesterday to advance Tulsi Gabbard's nomination.
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I mean, to be expected, frankly, the fact that all the Republicans will vote for her,
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at least in committee, is a good sign, because I expected plenty of Republicans to squish on Tulsi Gabbard.
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You know, I remember, I was at that Madison Square Garden rally,
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where Tulsi spoke, and Bobby Kennedy spoke, and Elon Musk spoke, and a lot of people spoke.
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But I remember, I was sitting with some friends, seeing a stage steal, and Dave Rubin, and a number of other people.
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Why campaign just a couple weeks before the election in New York City?
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And some friends of mine said, he's going for the popular vote.
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He thinks that he's got the electoral college in the bag.
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So now, he's putting all his chips on the table.
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In retrospect, that looks like what he was doing.
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Had Trump hid the ball, played it safe, run a campaign like Romney 2012,
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which is, we're not going to talk about anything even remotely controversial.
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You know, had Trump run one of these, I'm just going to fix inflation kind of campaigns.
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I think that the wisdom of the Romney campaign, that could be my next blank book,
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the wisdom of the Romney campaign was just mistaken.
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But had he done that, and then he came into office, and he started talking about all these wild things.
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We're going to take back the Katama Canal, all this stuff.
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All of this would have been so totally jarring and unpopular.
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However, if during the campaign, Trump says, hey, when you elect me, you know what?
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You're getting two Democrat presidential candidates, and we're going to make America healthy again,
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and we're going to have beef tallow, you know, basically sprayed down into the atmosphere.
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And we're going to do this, and we're going to do all, and we're going to have a lot of tariffs,
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We're going to put Elon Musk in charge of some government office I haven't even invented yet.
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And because he ran on it, he's got a lot of runway.
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People are familiar with that, and I think it's what gives him so much negotiating leverage.
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Now, speaking of advancing out of government, speaking of people just being advanced out of the government,
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an important story happened a couple days ago, but I want to get to it.
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The USDA inspector general was escorted out of her office by security.
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Phyllis Fong is a 22-year veteran of the USDA, and she told her colleagues that she planned to stay at the White House,
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or stay at USDA after the White House fired her.
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And her argument was that the White House did not follow the proper protocols to fire her,
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Even though Trump said she was out, she was going to keep her job, and that was that.
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They could drag her out with security if they wanted to, which is exactly what Trump did.
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She said, according to an email reviewed by Reuters, that the Independent Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency,
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quote, has taken the position that these termination notices do not comply with the requirements set out in law,
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I'm going to drag you out of your office kicking and screaming if I have to.
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And Trump did that to send the same kind of message he's been sending on all these fronts.
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The thing about bluffing is sometimes you've got to follow through.
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That's the only way you can have an effective bluff.
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Anyone who's played two games of poker in your entire life knows this.
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So sometimes you've got to follow through, and he does.
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And that's going to cause some chaos and consternation.
00:42:45.820
Walter Kern made a good point on social media, which is that we hear a lot about the peaceful transfer of power.
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This is the American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power, which President Trump so upended, supposedly, in 2020.
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They forget about all the riots and the setting cars on fire and the shrieking and the denial of the election from top Democrats in 2016.
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But Trump threatened the peaceful transfer of power for the first time ever.
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Well, Walter Kern made the point that there's a difference between the peaceful transfer of power and changing shifts at your job.
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That what we've called the peaceful transfer of power, the shift in power from, I don't know, Reagan to Clinton, Clinton to Bush, Bush to Obama.
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That that was less a transfer of power than it was just a shift change.
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That, yeah, there were different kind of policy desires.
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But the fundamental understanding of the political order really was the same in many ways.
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I actually forgot about George Bush the first in between from Reagan to Bush to Bush to Clinton to Clinton to Bush to Bush to Obama.
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That they all basically shared the same underlying philosophy.
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Adrian Vermeule, the legal theorist at Harvard, pointed to the distinction between formal and material transfer of power.
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That you can have two guys, one wearing a red tie, one wearing a blue tie, and they have a formal transfer of power at the inauguration.
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But if they all agree on the basics, it's kind of just formal.
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But if you have one guy who's wearing a red tie and one guy who's wearing a jean jacket and a tank top, you know, maybe that's not so much a formal transfer of power as a material transfer.
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You're actually going to be getting something different in your government now.
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And material transfers of power are not that peaceful.
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The elections of, well, I don't know, even Jackson's election, that was a little bit rowdy.
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How many times have we really had the peaceful transfer of power?
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Good point brought up by them to show that we are actually seeing a shift in,
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Now, speaking of a shift, there's one, it's a minor point, but it's a point that I do want to make.
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I speak, I, first person, speak in third person from now on.
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That's, that's a, that's a odd, strange, funny little tweet.
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That's a, it's a great, he's suggesting, of course, that he, he cannot, but he wrote in language.
00:46:27.180
So he has, it's just a funny, delightful little, when I saw this, now I know Kanye then showed up to the Grammys and stripped his wife down to her skimmies.
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And I know, you know, the whole, that, that was, but I'm just talking about the Twitter, the return to Twitter.
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Just a sense, even down to the tweets, that we're back.
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Something is, just a fog has, a miasma has lifted off the country.
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We're brimming with joy, to use a phrase from Kamala.
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Now, of course, our, our genius political scientists, so I should be clear about that.
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Not political scientists, like nerds with statistics, but, but scientists in lab coats who are actually very political.
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They tell us that the doomsday clock is closest to midnight, closer than it has ever been.
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So, something to consider while we talk about building up new resort casinos in, in Gaza.
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They say that things have never been any worse, but I don't know.
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There was no member block today, because I have to go on Piers Morgan's show.
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So, very sorry to have to do that to you, but it's, it's always a delight to go on Piers Morgan's show, so I thought you would forgive me.
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