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00:00:37.820 This is a really big day.

00:00:40.060 I am honored.

00:00:41.360 I would like to thank the Academy.

00:00:43.400 The Southern Poverty Law Center has named a video I did for Prager University in which I attack the alt-right.

00:00:49.400 The most egregious PragerU video of all time.

00:00:56.980 Thank you.

00:00:57.780 It's an honor.

00:00:58.840 Meanwhile, the left is breathlessly reporting frivolous nonsense.

00:01:02.740 We will analyze some of that, but only later in the show.

00:01:05.140 Because first, and I'm also honored to have this, actor and comedian Tom Arnold will stop by to talk about his new show on Vice,

00:01:12.160 which focuses on that strangely elusive Russian golden showers tape Democrats have insisted they have on Donald Trump.

00:01:19.220 We will discuss how the Democrats are running on smoke and mirrors.

00:01:23.080 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:25.120 All right, let's get right into it.

00:01:34.520 We have Tom here.

00:01:36.020 Vice is doing a new show delving into the issue Americans really care about most,

00:01:41.280 whether there is a video of Russian hookers urinating on a bed in Donald Trump's hotel room.

00:01:46.580 To discuss the show, we have brought the host here himself.

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00:03:23.440 Tom Arnold has already joined the movement in that ad read.

00:03:26.220 He is an actor and a comedian.

00:03:27.440 You know Tom.

00:03:28.380 You've seen him alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie True Lies and a million other things.

00:03:32.860 You've seen him alongside ex-wife Roseanne Barr probably recently in the news and in a bunch of other movies and TV shows.

00:03:39.540 Tom is now doing a show with Viceland in which he gets down to the real important issues facing the country.

00:03:45.460 That elusive golden showers tape from the long discredited Democrat funded Steele dossier.

00:03:52.100 Here is the trailer.

00:03:55.720 Donald Trump saying quote unquote grab them by the pussy.

00:04:00.140 Talking about 16 year old girls and their underwear here.

00:04:02.860 Okay.

00:04:04.360 Spewing racial slurs on the set of Celebrity Apprentices.

00:04:08.320 President Trump denies any involvement with prostitutes.

00:04:14.780 Don't worry.

00:04:16.480 Tom Arnold is on it.

00:04:18.520 And I'm Tom Arnold.

00:04:19.420 Tom, thank you for being here.

00:04:28.400 Okay, that was strange.

00:04:30.620 Well, my, here's my first question.

00:04:32.800 Because as with many things in the broom closet of the Ben Shapiro show, we'll fix it in post.

00:04:37.540 Right.

00:04:38.200 Right.

00:04:38.720 My first question for you.

00:04:39.840 This is a show, as people will have seen now in post-production.

00:04:43.180 Yeah.

00:04:43.660 This is a show.

00:04:44.280 Let me explain something to you, young man.

00:04:46.040 A golden shower is, there's a difference between a golden shower and a, and also there's a difference between a hooker and a model.

00:04:54.840 So, so that's a red herring, sir.

00:04:57.280 Okay.

00:04:57.520 There was no golden shower, there was a, a model urinating on a bed because, because Donald Trump doesn't like Barack Obama.

00:05:06.640 Would you agree that Donald Trump doesn't like Barack Obama?

00:05:09.360 I would agree that half the people in this room don't like Barack Obama because we, we're very lucky to have Vice joining us today to be filming this for part of the show.

00:05:16.180 Right.

00:05:16.480 Usually it's a hundred percent of the people in the room.

00:05:18.760 Have you ever had a, someone urinate on a bed because you don't like Barack Obama?

00:05:23.380 Do you, is that the level of dislike from Barack Obama that you have?

00:05:26.900 Well, it never occurred to me.

00:05:28.180 The main, my level of dislike for Barack Obama was such that I would even vote for Mitt Romney to get rid of Barack Obama.

00:05:33.000 Well, that's interesting.

00:05:34.040 My, that's interesting.

00:05:35.100 My first question, this whole thing is about this tape.

00:05:37.120 By the way, we just interviewed, I just interviewed David Korn.

00:05:39.680 Yeah.

00:05:39.940 And because of him and his dang tape recording, having that waiter tape record, Mitt Romney, we could be in the second term of Mitt Romney's presidency right now.

00:05:49.220 That's true.

00:05:49.760 You're right.

00:05:50.240 That is true.

00:05:50.980 If it was for dang David Korn.

00:05:52.380 David Korn gave us Donald Trump.

00:05:53.840 He gave us Donald Trump.

00:05:55.440 Do you have the tape?

00:05:56.280 Do you have the Russia urination on the bed, Barack Obama tape?

00:06:00.700 I'm a hundred percent sure it exists.

00:06:03.060 How are you sure?

00:06:03.820 You don't have it yourself.

00:06:05.020 I don't have it myself, but I'm also sure the Steele dossier is a hundred percent real.

00:06:09.580 But even Democrats now are saying that Steele dossier is, I mean, we, we know demonstrably some of it isn't true.

00:06:15.200 First of all, can we agree on one thing?

00:06:16.740 Democrats are idiots.

00:06:18.380 Can we agree on that?

00:06:19.620 Not all of them, but you know.

00:06:21.100 Right, right.

00:06:21.420 Once the cameras go off.

00:06:22.700 Not all of them, not all of them.

00:06:24.700 And Republicans are morons.

00:06:26.880 Can we agree with that?

00:06:27.780 Well, I can agree with the first part more easily than the second part.

00:06:31.680 Let me just say something about Donald Trump.

00:06:33.080 And I love the way you talk about him.

00:06:34.800 You talk about him like a second grader talks about Santa Claus to toddlers.

00:06:39.240 You're like, guys, come on.

00:06:41.060 He doesn't go to every house on Christmas Eve.

00:06:44.060 That's a, that's a story.

00:06:45.900 Yeah.

00:06:46.180 He's a story.

00:06:47.120 So, but yet I'm going to tell you about Donald Trump.

00:06:49.340 He is outside of Macy's telling everyone he goes to every house on Christmas Eve.

00:06:53.440 He really does.

00:06:54.280 He's that crazy.

00:06:55.220 Well, he has been giving us wonderful gifts since he was inaugurated.

00:06:58.100 I get in that way.

00:06:58.800 I think he's like Donald Trump.

00:06:59.840 Like for Santa Claus.

00:07:01.480 That's right.

00:07:02.380 Well, this is my question.

00:07:03.960 So you don't, you don't have the tape, but you're sure it exists.

00:07:07.020 Yeah.

00:07:07.240 Well, I lived in the, in the Moscow Ritz.

00:07:09.400 And they do tape everything you do there.

00:07:11.380 Of course they do.

00:07:11.960 That goes without saying.

00:07:12.740 And it's kind of funny how they do it.

00:07:14.260 They, they brag about their technological advancements at the Moscow Ritz.

00:07:19.020 And the irony there is because they're recording everything you're doing.

00:07:21.660 Right.

00:07:21.860 But we know.

00:07:22.380 Did you know that he went to a pee pee party the summer before in, in Las Vegas?

00:07:26.440 That he went to a pee pee show.

00:07:28.440 And I have, I have a picture of him doing that the summer before that.

00:07:31.860 Do you, so you're making.

00:07:33.220 Isikoff, Michael Isikoff in their book, there's a picture of him doing that.

00:07:37.460 So the groundwork was laid.

00:07:38.960 He went to a show where a woman peed into a champagne flute.

00:07:42.640 There's a picture of him doing that the summer before this.

00:07:45.200 But here's the thing, Tom.

00:07:46.300 Russian roulette's the name of the book.

00:07:47.680 You love books.

00:07:48.320 Please read that book.

00:07:49.080 I will, I read, I read them.

00:07:50.660 I write them.

00:07:51.180 I don't use words.

00:07:51.860 Yeah, you do.

00:07:52.460 I know that's how you, that's so funny.

00:07:54.340 The book you wrote would be funny.

00:07:55.260 Thank you very much.

00:07:55.960 It's funny.

00:07:56.500 So you're making a lot.

00:07:57.480 What a waste of paper.

00:07:58.600 What?

00:07:59.140 And trees and stuff.

00:08:00.300 Trees are an organic, renewable resource.

00:08:01.980 I'm saving the environment by printing that book.

00:08:04.080 Otherwise it'll turn into parking lots.

00:08:04.840 You have amazing hair, son.

00:08:06.120 Stop it.

00:08:06.760 You're going to make me blush.

00:08:08.200 You make a lot of these claims that the tape exists.

00:08:11.760 The Democrats have been looking for this tape.

00:08:13.480 We know the Democrats funded that Steele dossier.

00:08:15.700 We know a lot of it has been discredited.

00:08:17.060 But let's be honest.

00:08:17.780 Did the Republicans start it?

00:08:19.080 I know the Democrats really funded a lot of it.

00:08:21.060 We know that both Republicans and Democrats have used Fusion GPS for opposition research.

00:08:25.940 Totally fine.

00:08:26.540 Yeah, of course.

00:08:26.620 Of course.

00:08:26.880 But the Steele dossier.

00:08:28.240 Are you saying it's not accurate?

00:08:29.420 The Steele dossier?

00:08:30.680 Absolutely it's not accurate.

00:08:31.780 We know that.

00:08:32.300 How do you, what's not accurate?

00:08:33.660 Give me something.

00:08:34.500 I'll go through points by points.

00:08:35.580 Okay.

00:08:35.760 So in the Steele dossier, this is quoting from the Steele dossier.

00:08:39.160 The Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting, and assisting Trump for at least five years.

00:08:42.840 Aim endorsed by Putin has been to encourage splits and divisions in the Western alliance.

00:08:46.220 Now that would bring it back to 2011.

00:08:47.440 You don't think that's true?

00:08:48.400 It can't be true.

00:08:49.500 Okay.

00:08:49.820 But what's going on right now?

00:08:51.180 By the way, what about the news this week with our alliances and the G7 and what's going

00:08:57.900 on with Trump and Canada?

00:09:00.040 The split is not true about that.

00:09:03.060 Literally, with what Trudeau and Trump and our alliances and what's going on with Germany

00:09:08.400 is absolutely true.

00:09:09.900 What's wrong with our alliances?

00:09:10.380 Well, all of our allies, we're not getting along with them.

00:09:13.100 We're getting along very well with them.

00:09:14.400 To North Korea and Putin and China and not our allies anymore.

00:09:20.540 Our allies.

00:09:20.940 That's exactly what's happening, brother.

00:09:22.900 Under the Obama administration, our allies paid far less for their involvement in NATO

00:09:28.000 than they do under Donald Trump.

00:09:29.000 Oh, is that what, seriously?

00:09:29.700 Yeah.

00:09:29.920 Is that what really was about?

00:09:31.060 Even though both Barack Obama and his predecessor encouraged our allies in NATO to actually pay

00:09:37.960 their fair share.

00:09:38.800 So that's really what it's about.

00:09:41.440 Yes, it's about us working together with our allies, which we're doing.

00:09:44.400 Okay.

00:09:44.860 That's, that's good news to know.

00:09:46.500 Well, you know, Donald Trump is so-

00:09:47.640 Because that is what's happening.

00:09:48.760 That doesn't matter.

00:09:49.580 They didn't say anything about, there's nothing Steele dossier about, oh, they're going to

00:09:52.880 pay more money.

00:09:53.740 Those words you just read are happening right now in real time.

00:09:57.320 Well, here, here's a-

00:09:58.020 Okay.

00:09:58.640 Here's some pretty strange ones.

00:09:59.820 So here's another line from the Steele dossier.

00:10:01.840 Okay.

00:10:02.420 The, it alludes to the existence of a Russian dossier or compromat on Hillary Clinton is confirmed

00:10:08.680 by source B.

00:10:09.900 A, she or he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been collated by Department K of

00:10:15.140 the FSB for many years.

00:10:16.820 Okay.

00:10:17.100 Except the Directorate K, which is an, an infamous part of Russian intelligence, doesn't do intelligence

00:10:23.360 on foreign leaders.

00:10:24.240 It, that, that, SVR does, FAPC does, but not Directorate K.

00:10:28.460 So it just doesn't add up.

00:10:29.980 Okay.

00:10:30.200 First of all, I'm not even sure what you just said, but if they got something about Hillary,

00:10:33.420 get it.

00:10:34.000 Because get her-

00:10:35.020 What I'm saying is-

00:10:35.580 And then she should not be president anymore.

00:10:37.240 That means nothing.

00:10:38.180 There are-

00:10:38.280 Let me tell you something.

00:10:38.840 The first thing you read is absolutely true because there is, everything you said, our allies,

00:10:43.980 you see what's going on.

00:10:44.700 You're saying that Russia predicted in 2011 that Donald Trump could become the president

00:10:48.100 of the United States?

00:10:49.000 Russia, Vladimir Putin being the only person on earth who predicted that Donald Trump could

00:10:52.480 be the president of the United States?

00:10:53.480 No, Donald, when Donald Trump called and said that Barack Obama was not born here, when

00:10:57.800 he started the birther campaign in 2011, and people rose up and supported him.

00:11:02.780 Did anybody seriously think that he would become the president in 2011?

00:11:06.340 I know in 2013, when, when Vladimir Putin called his room in the, in Moscow, Ritz-Carlton,

00:11:11.940 and he, Donald Trump put that call on a speakerphone, and the, some people I know that were with the,

00:11:16.260 the Miss Universe contest, and he said to everybody, I want you to be the president.

00:11:20.500 We will support you in any way we can.

00:11:22.140 But this is the problem, Tom.

00:11:23.200 You hear all the time.

00:11:24.620 Well, he is the president, and this is happening.

00:11:27.120 So, yeah.

00:11:28.000 He is the president.

00:11:28.440 So, let's stick in the moment here.

00:11:30.280 But here's the problem.

00:11:31.160 The question has, has been, we have these tapes.

00:11:33.860 Then it was, well, we don't have these tapes.

00:11:34.940 And he just gave up all of our, he just cited with, he gave stuff to North Korea that's

00:11:40.760 just unprecedented.

00:11:41.520 What did he give to North Korea?

00:11:42.380 He said, okay, no more war exercises.

00:11:44.920 When is the war game scheduled?

00:11:46.580 The war game's not scheduled.

00:11:47.080 No, but you heard his words.

00:11:48.620 You heard his words.

00:11:49.220 I know you're coming for Santa Claus.

00:11:50.660 Like, Santa didn't really mean that.

00:11:52.180 He said that.

00:11:52.420 But Tom, when is that war game scheduled for?

00:11:54.200 It's not scheduled for a full year.

00:11:54.920 I know, you're being, you're being practical.

00:11:56.840 You should be the president.

00:11:58.060 But you're not, for real.

00:11:59.220 I got the Tom Arnold endorsement for president.

00:12:01.080 That's pretty good.

00:12:01.340 But he's, he is out of his mind.

00:12:03.120 I know, first of all, I know him.

00:12:04.760 I've been to the Playboy Mansion with him.

00:12:06.420 I wasn't the creepy guy.

00:12:07.360 I've known him 30 years.

00:12:08.300 I wish you were president.

00:12:10.000 You're a smart, analytical kid.

00:12:12.700 You know, I'm glad you're around, you know, but, but he's insane.

00:12:17.080 Okay.

00:12:17.520 And, and, uh.

00:12:18.140 But I wonder, is it, we always hear he's stupid.

00:12:21.300 He's insane from people who know him.

00:12:22.920 He's exactly as he was 30 years ago.

00:12:25.200 But he keeps being successful.

00:12:26.860 And this is my real question.

00:12:28.140 Wait a minute.

00:12:28.680 Is he successful?

00:12:29.620 We are losing everything.

00:12:31.340 He, every day, we, we risk losing everything.

00:12:34.200 There's people propping him up.

00:12:35.600 I'm not saying you.

00:12:36.900 I'm saying you're like, oh, no, what he really means.

00:12:39.440 No, he is that bat shit crazy.

00:12:41.620 But look at, but look at the, the actual facts on the ground.

00:12:44.680 The actual facts are, he is a, let me tell you something.

00:12:47.420 He's a straight up racist.

00:12:49.180 Look at his policies.

00:12:50.660 Look at his policies.

00:12:51.240 What policy is racist?

00:12:53.280 They're ripping people from the mothers, children from their mothers at the borders.

00:12:59.520 It's not, it's a policy.

00:13:01.080 They're deporting illegal aliens, is what you're saying.

00:13:02.980 No, no, no, no, no.

00:13:03.320 But there's a cruelty to it.

00:13:05.060 But it's not, but what's the racism?

00:13:06.760 Michael.

00:13:07.220 What's the racism?

00:13:07.900 Because it's always brown people.

00:13:10.640 I'm telling you, just pay the.

00:13:11.780 Brown people are crossing the border from Mexico.

00:13:13.700 That's true.

00:13:14.680 But, but.

00:13:15.000 But do you think if it were white people crossing the border, that they wouldn't be deported?

00:13:18.520 That we shouldn't enforce immigration law?

00:13:19.920 I'm telling you, there's something about it.

00:13:22.200 I'm telling you that it's there for whole countries.

00:13:24.540 I'm telling you there is a difference.

00:13:26.500 There is a difference.

00:13:27.640 Are you saying Haiti is some lovely metropolis that we should really move to?

00:13:30.880 I get, I get what you're doing.

00:13:32.580 The point is.

00:13:33.040 I know the guy too.

00:13:34.660 I spent time with the guy.

00:13:36.140 It is different.

00:13:37.140 You, there's no reason to rip babies from their mothers, period.

00:13:41.160 Anywhere, anywhere that there's no.

00:13:42.840 So you're saying there's no reason to deport illegal aliens?

00:13:45.120 No, no, no, there's different.

00:13:46.760 That's a different, that's a red herring.

00:13:48.280 That's different.

00:13:49.440 That's different.

00:13:49.780 How is that different?

00:13:50.480 We're talking about deporting illegal aliens.

00:13:51.660 Because we're Americans.

00:13:52.800 We don't do that.

00:13:53.840 We're better than that.

00:13:54.780 We don't enforce our immigration law because we're Americans?

00:13:56.900 We have humanity.

00:13:58.320 There are ways to do things and we're better than that.

00:14:01.440 But don't you think that Americans have a right to determine who gets to come in and

00:14:05.340 out of the country and use our taxpayer funded services?

00:14:08.440 That's right.

00:14:09.000 And commit crimes in the United States at higher rates?

00:14:10.440 And we can do it the American way because we're better than that.

00:14:13.420 What's the American way?

00:14:14.220 With humanity and with respect.

00:14:16.800 So you're saying don't deport illegal aliens?

00:14:18.620 No, I'm saying you do.

00:14:20.080 You absolutely do.

00:14:20.960 So how do you do it?

00:14:21.540 You do it the right way, the American way.

00:14:23.340 And then you treat people with respect and you treat people well and you don't rip people

00:14:27.900 apart and you don't use that, you know, that, that, that's how, you know, that's how.

00:14:32.180 You're talking about those images of the kids in the cages and all that kind of stuff.

00:14:35.560 No, no, I'm talking about literally what they're doing.

00:14:37.520 Right.

00:14:37.820 But Barack, Barack, although.

00:14:39.300 Are you a father?

00:14:40.480 Well, it's a big country and it's a wise man who knows who his father is.

00:14:43.620 But none that I know of.

00:14:44.800 All right.

00:14:45.000 No, I said you're not a father.

00:14:45.840 Well, if you were just a man, if you were, and I have imagined your son being taken from

00:14:51.580 you, if you could imagine that feeling.

00:14:53.300 Yeah.

00:14:53.480 I don't want my son to cross illegally into another country too.

00:14:56.140 Okay.

00:14:56.500 And I wouldn't do it on his behalf.

00:14:57.700 No, no, no, but you don't, you don't understand.

00:14:59.820 What's your parent?

00:15:00.940 You'll understand.

00:15:01.660 There's something inside of you that is so miserable.

00:15:03.420 Well, I'm not going to illegally enter another country so that I don't use my son.

00:15:06.420 No, I get it.

00:15:06.700 I get it.

00:15:06.860 I'm sorry.

00:15:07.360 No, and I don't need to be disrespectful to you, but you don't know what the f*** you're

00:15:10.300 talking about.

00:15:10.940 Okay?

00:15:11.300 What, what don't I know?

00:15:12.040 Until you're a parent.

00:15:12.800 What's your parent?

00:15:13.720 You know, you, you can't even imagine.

00:15:16.440 It's such a miserable thing.

00:15:16.760 I know plenty of parents who oppose illegal immigration.

00:15:18.860 Yeah, you, there's, you, there's, it's, you absolutely oppose, there's just a humane

00:15:24.160 way of doing things.

00:15:24.880 Do you think that the people who voted for Donald Trump, half the country, that they're

00:15:29.860 racist, deplorable, irredeemable?

00:15:31.920 No, I don't think that.

00:15:32.580 But they voted for a racist.

00:15:33.320 I can't possibly.

00:15:34.140 They voted for racist policies, according to you.

00:15:35.740 That would be as bad as me being you and saying, oh, it's about, making a blanket statement

00:15:41.820 like, oh, you can't, you can't deport illegal aliens.

00:15:45.600 No, you, humanity.

00:15:46.740 You have to have humanity, especially when you have to think about where are the, the

00:15:51.240 earth is one planet.

00:15:52.400 Okay?

00:15:53.220 Do you believe in God, for instance?

00:15:54.580 Yes.

00:15:54.920 Okay.

00:15:56.080 Then take a step back.

00:15:57.520 If you believe in God, so you think God is like, deport people, deport people, no humanity,

00:16:03.860 no humanity, Michael Dolez.

00:16:05.220 No, he, behold, no humanity.

00:16:07.180 These are the laws.

00:16:08.260 The God is, God is God of perfect justice and perfect mercy, which is very difficult for

00:16:12.580 us.

00:16:12.740 But we know from St. Paul's epistles that the civil authority is endowed with a right

00:16:17.400 to enforce the law.

00:16:19.180 Isn't that right?

00:16:20.260 That's all.

00:16:20.800 First of all, I'm Jewish.

00:16:22.060 Render, render unto Caesar.

00:16:23.140 So tell me about mercy.

00:16:24.740 Tell me about the mercy at the border of taking babies from their mothers intentionally to be

00:16:30.260 punitive, to be punitive.

00:16:31.880 And these mothers are escaping domestic violence to get to America, the land of the free, the

00:16:36.900 home of the brave, just to get an opportunity to save their children's lives.

00:16:40.240 And tell me about Jesus.

00:16:42.080 And I saw the Jesus documentary that Mark Burnett made, or the miniseries.

00:16:45.840 If you want to read the book, it's a good book.

00:16:47.320 Right.

00:16:47.560 Well, I've read the chapter, the first chapter, or the first part.

00:16:52.300 Let me tell you something.

00:16:52.860 What would Jesus think about all this?

00:16:55.260 For real.

00:16:56.340 What would Jesus think about the civil government enforcing the law?

00:16:59.020 Well, I'll take it from his apostle that it is perfectly right for the civil government

00:17:01.880 to enforce the law.

00:17:03.560 Hold on.

00:17:04.040 What do you think about these money guys, these billionaires?

00:17:07.140 Well, I don't know how many billionaires there were at the time.

00:17:09.640 Here, let's talk with your heart for a second.

00:17:13.860 Yeah.

00:17:14.920 Babies being yanked from their mother.

00:17:16.640 Is there not a better way to do this?

00:17:18.880 What is the better way?

00:17:20.420 I mean, first of all, we're not deporting little babies and sending them and letting the

00:17:23.880 mothers stay.

00:17:24.560 Let me just say this.

00:17:25.080 We say the babies go to Honduras, but the mothers stay in America.

00:17:27.360 That's not what happens.

00:17:28.220 Babies go to Chicago.

00:17:29.680 Don't tell the mothers where they are.

00:17:31.200 It's unacceptable.

00:17:31.860 Listen, we can do better.

00:17:32.940 We can do better.

00:17:33.720 We have the most charitable immigration regime in the entire world.

00:17:36.400 No, no, no.

00:17:36.720 We have the highest foreign-born population.

00:17:39.920 You run this better than they do down there.

00:17:42.300 You know where that monitor is?

00:17:43.680 You got a better crew here.

00:17:45.120 People, listen, they don't know what they're doing down there yet.

00:17:48.020 We apprehend over a thousand people a day crossing illegal into this country at the border.

00:17:52.040 And as Donald Trump correctly said, bringing drugs and bringing grime.

00:17:54.040 Listen, I worked in a meatpacking plant for three years.

00:17:56.080 We bred Hormel meatpacking plant better.

00:17:58.420 They don't know what they're doing yet.

00:17:59.880 Let me tell you, they just changed the policy.

00:18:01.620 They don't have things set up.

00:18:02.840 They don't have housing set up.

00:18:04.340 We knew we had hog refinement facilities better than they do down there.

00:18:08.500 We have housing in their own countries.

00:18:09.160 Are you going to put, you don't know, I'm telling you, you haven't been there.

00:18:12.940 I'm telling you, the people down there, they don't, now they're talking about setting up

00:18:16.680 tents.

00:18:17.520 It's a freaking hundred degrees here.

00:18:19.400 They don't have things set up.

00:18:20.780 Tom, do you know what makes that so hard?

00:18:22.460 We apprehend a thousand people.

00:18:24.200 They're kids.

00:18:24.740 They're human beings.

00:18:25.520 Hold on.

00:18:25.820 They're human beings.

00:18:26.700 We would not allow our pork and cattle to be treated like this right now because legally

00:18:33.040 you can't.

00:18:33.940 You have to have certain kind of facilities.

00:18:35.740 Right now they're just saying, well, we got somebody.

00:18:37.400 How many people that we apprehend at the border every day do we just send right back to their

00:18:41.060 country as, as probably we should.

00:18:43.060 Do you know how many people we do that to?

00:18:44.120 Do you ever have a-

00:18:44.900 Zero people.

00:18:45.820 You know what would help you guys for a second?

00:18:48.100 And I know the bleeding heart liberals, I know it can be bullshit.

00:18:50.620 I know they're way over the fucking top, but for a second, and can you not think that

00:18:54.720 way?

00:18:54.900 Could you think it would be going against Trump?

00:18:56.820 For a second, can you not, can you not go-

00:18:59.580 I think we should enforce our laws.

00:19:00.860 I think Americans have a right to, to their own democratically enacted laws, bipartisan laws to

00:19:06.700 decide who comes in and who comes out.

00:19:08.480 We have the highest, highest rates of immigration until recently because it's dropped under,

00:19:13.140 brought, under Donald Trump.

00:19:15.360 But we have the highest percentage of foreign born population in American history since 1890.

00:19:20.320 Under the best of circumstances, assimilation is difficult.

00:19:23.300 Under these sort of circumstances, it's virtually impossible.

00:19:26.580 80% of women and girls who cross the border-

00:19:29.240 You know, Italians-

00:19:30.040 80%, excuse me, Tom, let me finish this point.

00:19:32.240 Italians were not, no, no, but think about this.

00:19:34.760 We hated Italians.

00:19:35.960 Everybody hated Italians.

00:19:37.380 Americans did not want Italians here.

00:19:39.780 They were like, no, no.

00:19:40.860 They were scorned.

00:19:42.080 They were the scum of the earth.

00:19:43.300 You probably don't remember this.

00:19:44.360 Your parents, your grandparents could tell you about this.

00:19:46.480 Did not want, they did not want Italians here.

00:19:49.140 And just read the history.

00:19:50.520 I know you've read books and, and they were scorned and they were, they were looked down upon

00:19:54.680 and, and it was awful.

00:19:56.400 Tom.

00:19:56.800 It was awful.

00:19:57.860 According to Amnesty International and the Huffington Post, not exactly right-wing outlets,

00:20:02.920 between 60 and 80% of women and girls who cross the border illegally-

00:20:06.000 It's awful.

00:20:06.120 I agree with you.

00:20:06.380 Are raped and sexually assaulted.

00:20:08.000 What is compassionate or merciful or humanitarian about encouraging a regime,

00:20:13.060 encouraging human traffickers who bring those women and girls across the border

00:20:16.260 and rape them along the way?

00:20:17.300 That's a red herring.

00:20:18.400 It's a red herring.

00:20:19.120 60 to 80% is a red herring.

00:20:20.620 It's a red herring.

00:20:21.100 You aren't, but it's what we do when they get to the border, to rip their children apart.

00:20:25.260 We need to take, that's our policy to scare them to go back.

00:20:28.920 We're going to take their children from them.

00:20:30.580 Tom, I don't, I don't think there's a federal statute to rip children away from them.

00:20:34.060 No, no, it's a policy.

00:20:35.960 Will you look into it for me?

00:20:37.920 Will you?

00:20:38.500 Will you do something about it with me?

00:20:40.920 If it's a, will you?

00:20:42.520 Me and you.

00:20:43.040 If, if there's a federal policy to rip children away from their mothers-

00:20:49.040 To take the children away from their parents.

00:20:51.560 To-

00:20:51.880 There has been suicides of the parents because they couldn't find their children.

00:20:54.720 Well, there, when people do get to the border, they do have to be processed.

00:20:57.460 They're, they're, that is certainly true.

00:20:59.060 There's no national policy to rip children away from their parents.

00:21:00.560 There's a four month old child that was taken from her mother yesterday.

00:21:03.780 Will you at least investigate this with me?

00:21:06.080 Horrible things happen because of illegal immigration.

00:21:08.260 That's why we need to stop illegal immigration.

00:21:09.600 Okay, so you're not denying it's true.

00:21:11.660 No, I'm, I'm, I'm actually saying it's much worse than you are saying it is.

00:21:15.320 I'm saying illegal immigration causes many, many more problems than you are saying it is,

00:21:19.660 which is why we need to cut off all incentives for it and enforce our immigration laws and have people follow-

00:21:23.740 But we could do better, we could do better.

00:21:25.360 I, I, I, well, it's easy to say these slogans, right?

00:21:27.840 It's, and it's easy for this innuendo.

00:21:29.400 This is the question that I want to get to because right now the economy's going gangbusters.

00:21:33.520 It's doing better than it ever has.

00:21:34.480 No, no, no, no, for, for rich people, for rich people, for corporations, for, for, you know, whatever.

00:21:39.980 Everybody just got a tax cut, the economy's doing very well.

00:21:41.640 No, no, everybody, come on.

00:21:42.620 That's, you know, the stock market is doing very well.

00:21:45.800 The stock market.

00:21:47.760 You say that, but it's never the last book.

00:21:50.460 To pull my friendship hero, facts don't care about your feelings.

00:21:53.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:54.260 Black unemployment at historic lows.

00:21:55.580 But your feelings, these people, you still got to care about people.

00:21:58.520 But, but at the end of the day, this is reality.

00:22:01.160 This is reality.

00:22:02.540 It's not your reality, but, you know, you're responsible.

00:22:05.300 But there's only one reality, Tom.

00:22:06.740 Yeah, no, no.

00:22:07.400 Oh, no, that's not true.

00:22:08.780 And you have to accept there are, there are other realities.

00:22:11.000 If you think your reality is the only one, you're full.

00:22:14.180 I think we've explained the Democrat-Republican divide.

00:22:16.720 No, no, there's not even Democrat-Republican.

00:22:18.760 Because I think there is one reality.

00:22:19.560 Well, there's one big reality.

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00:24:02.720 All right, Tom, back to reality.

00:24:04.240 You're telling me this explains the show because I've never seen that Trump urine tape.

00:24:09.420 And Democrats, it seems to me they are distracting from all of the good things that are happening in this country

00:24:14.480 with innuendo and implications and the fantasies of other realities that are fantasies.

00:24:19.980 Well, it is true that we are far apart because I guess we feel like you're totally over here

00:24:27.360 with the fantasy that Donald Trump is infallible and everything.

00:24:31.460 I don't think he's infallible.

00:24:31.880 When have I ever said he's infallible?

00:24:32.960 Okay, give me.

00:24:33.280 I say he's a very infallible man.

00:24:34.160 Let's meet in the middle.

00:24:35.080 Okay, Dave, one thing that he's absolutely lied about.

00:24:38.260 That he, well, I think Donald Trump talks like a New Yorker.

00:24:41.080 So I'll give you an example.

00:24:42.000 Oh, that gives him an out.

00:24:43.160 That, well, no, but it's a real acknowledgement.

00:24:45.000 Okay, give me an example.

00:24:46.220 So the example is this.

00:24:47.320 Donald Trump says we have, you know, oh, we had the biggest crowds ever for this.

00:24:51.320 We had 60,000 people at such and such a rally.

00:24:54.700 Now, in reality, maybe the rally only had 30 or 40,000 people.

00:24:58.720 I'm willing to acknowledge that.

00:25:00.240 The way New Yorkers talk is a little hyperbolic.

00:25:02.180 He goes out, he says, you know, this is the most tremendous thing that's ever happened in the history of the world.

00:25:06.720 Maybe it's not the most tremendous thing that's ever happened, but it's a hyperbole and it leads into an exuberance.

00:25:12.280 I don't think that's the kind of lie is saying if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

00:25:16.140 Which the former president, Barack Obama, that's a terrible lie.

00:25:18.660 The 3,000 lies, you don't think that man has straight up lied to the American people?

00:25:24.080 What has he lied about?

00:25:25.140 Everything.

00:25:26.300 He has lied, when he said, my rich friends are really mad about this tax break.

00:25:29.980 It will not help them.

00:25:31.120 It raised taxes on people in New York and Los Angeles, on me, and on people in the highest income bracket.

00:25:39.360 It raised taxes on them.

00:25:40.680 It raised taxes on me.

00:25:41.940 It raised taxes on you, I'm sure, too.

00:25:43.660 It did, but all the trillions, because he hates me.

00:25:45.340 All the trillions of dollars that are coming back into this country, that are overseen.

00:25:50.280 We have repatriated money from this country.

00:25:52.020 The trillions of dollars.

00:25:52.580 We've repatriated jobs as well.

00:25:54.320 We know this.

00:25:55.060 There's a new announcement every week.

00:25:56.080 My family will not benefit.

00:25:57.740 They have not going to benefit from me.

00:25:58.900 Well, you won't, because you're too rich, Tom.

00:26:00.480 I won't benefit either.

00:26:01.200 His family.

00:26:02.280 Ivanka.

00:26:03.320 Jared.

00:26:04.220 They will not benefit from working in my administration.

00:26:07.440 How have they benefited?

00:26:08.440 $82 million last year, that family benefited.

00:26:11.900 Well, yeah, the Trump organization is still in operation.

00:26:15.000 Sure.

00:26:15.260 The Trump organization is still making money, obviously.

00:26:17.480 They personally made.

00:26:18.720 How much money did Barack Obama have going into the presidency and leaving the presidency?

00:26:23.080 Okay.

00:26:23.360 Did he have more or less?

00:26:24.040 $3 million?

00:26:24.660 Barack Obama was the freaking president of the United States.

00:26:26.900 He wasn't a small senior advisor.

00:26:29.580 How much?

00:26:29.940 Okay, let me ask you this.

00:26:30.680 How many times did Barack Obama golf?

00:26:32.220 And how many times did you complain about it?

00:26:33.680 I don't mind.

00:26:34.160 I never complain about the golf.

00:26:35.440 But you know who did?

00:26:36.960 Donald Trump.

00:26:37.960 And Donald Trump said, I will never golf.

00:26:39.640 He's golfed 10 times more.

00:26:41.460 Do you ever call him out on his...

00:26:43.220 How many times he calls other people out on it?

00:26:45.620 This is actually getting to the central point of your TV show and my criticism of the premise

00:26:50.240 of the TV show.

00:26:50.780 Here's the central point.

00:26:51.900 Here's the central point.

00:26:52.680 I don't trust him negotiating anything for us.

00:26:55.600 I think that Donald Trump is a Russian asset.

00:26:58.760 I don't think he knows it.

00:26:59.740 What's your evidence of that?

00:27:00.580 I don't think he knows it.

00:27:01.640 What's your evidence?

00:27:02.300 He is in love with Putin.

00:27:04.760 He has...

00:27:05.400 Putin does have something on him.

00:27:08.040 What is your evidence of that?

00:27:09.160 He won't let us investigate.

00:27:10.860 He won't let us follow through.

00:27:12.360 They meddled in our election.

00:27:14.160 He's done everything he can't...

00:27:14.860 How did they meddle in the election?

00:27:16.580 They spent $100,000 on Facebook ads for one digital company.

00:27:19.180 Do you not listen to our own intelligence?

00:27:21.540 What intelligence are you referring to?

00:27:23.080 Because I'm citing the $100,000 on Facebook ads.

00:27:25.100 You are privy to it because it's the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI.

00:27:29.240 They've shared all that with Donald Trump.

00:27:30.780 But how did they meddle specifically?

00:27:32.280 Because it's easy to use these big innuendos.

00:27:33.100 Well, I'd love to tell you, except I'm not privy to it either.

00:27:36.080 Well, I can tell you exactly not.

00:27:37.080 They have 100% certainty to share that with the people that don't.

00:27:39.600 I can tell you how the Russians meddled in the election.

00:27:41.540 And by the way, they fixed the election for Donald Trump.

00:27:44.580 Tom, I can...

00:27:45.060 It's not like they just spent $100,000.

00:27:46.840 They fixed...

00:27:47.640 How did they fix the election?

00:27:48.240 He's an illegitimate president, and he knows it.

00:27:50.640 And that's why he's fighting this.

00:27:52.160 He is not the president.

00:27:53.820 He doesn't deserve to be the president.

00:27:55.420 Tom, I...

00:27:55.960 It's...

00:27:56.760 In...

00:27:57.240 Tom...

00:27:57.340 He is not the president.

00:27:58.500 He's an illegitimate president.

00:27:59.900 I know...

00:28:00.360 Everything he accused Barack Obama of, that's him.

00:28:02.660 He's not the president.

00:28:03.820 He took all our health insurance away?

00:28:05.400 I don't think he did that.

00:28:06.240 Yeah.

00:28:06.560 Well, Donald Trump...

00:28:07.140 That's another thing.

00:28:07.800 He is trying to take people's health insurance away just because Barack Obama gave it to them.

00:28:11.980 Tom, I liked my doctor, and I didn't get to keep my doctor because of Barack Obama.

00:28:14.520 Do you want to know what Putin did, and he's going to do it again in 18, and Donald Trump

00:28:19.500 is going to make sure he doesn't stop him.

00:28:21.260 Tom.

00:28:21.420 He's not protecting our ballot boxes, our voting machines.

00:28:24.980 What are you talking about?

00:28:25.280 He's going to let Russia do it again.

00:28:26.920 Donald...

00:28:27.560 Listen, the Senate had a hearing yesterday, and they're freaked out about it because he's

00:28:32.420 not doing anything about it.

00:28:34.100 That bothers me.

00:28:35.420 Voting is a basic tenet of our people.

00:28:38.560 That's why Republicans are trying to protect the integrity of the ballot box.

00:28:41.220 Why didn't they show up for that Senate hearing?

00:28:42.880 Republican senators did not show up because they're beholding Donald Trump.

00:28:46.260 Hey, Tom, Tom, if you want to protect the integrity of the ballot box, do you think

00:28:49.520 that people should have to show an ID to vote?

00:28:52.100 I think you should protect us from Russia, number one, not from Americans.

00:28:56.880 Protect us from outside.

00:28:58.200 I thought we were going to...

00:28:58.520 Listen to John McCain.

00:29:00.280 Is John McCain a patriot?

00:29:01.160 That's usually not great advice.

00:29:02.180 Is John McCain...

00:29:02.920 Really?

00:29:03.480 Really?

00:29:03.920 I'll take f***ing John McCain over Donald Trump and any of these guys.

00:29:06.940 I know.

00:29:07.260 He's a patriot.

00:29:07.700 Left winners much prefer John McCain to conservative Republicans.

00:29:10.820 That's true.

00:29:11.420 That's very true.

00:29:12.000 Hey, buddy, if you're not taking John McCain as a patriot, a man has stood up to all this...

00:29:16.440 Yeah, he's a patriot.

00:29:17.280 He's a patriot.

00:29:18.020 Yeah.

00:29:18.320 But I don't like his political views.

00:29:20.040 Really?

00:29:20.540 I don't.

00:29:20.940 I think he wanted to gut the first one.

00:29:21.760 But I'll tell you what, when the going gets tough, if the guy says, you know, here's

00:29:25.160 the line versus outside forces, it's John McCain.

00:29:29.100 The guy has proved it every time.

00:29:30.600 Better than you or me or Donald Trump, who's put himself on the line for this country,

00:29:35.180 it's John McCain.

00:29:36.200 Okay?

00:29:36.620 Yes.

00:29:36.820 Forget politics.

00:29:37.480 He served admirably.

00:29:38.000 It's John McCain.

00:29:38.640 Yes.

00:29:39.460 True.

00:29:39.640 Beyond served admirably.

00:29:41.180 He did.

00:29:41.360 That's a bull**** thing to say.

00:29:42.400 He served admirably.

00:29:43.400 Very admirably.

00:29:44.300 What was he like?

00:29:44.700 He lived in a f***ing cage for five and a half years.

00:29:46.920 Yeah.

00:29:47.420 Extremely admirably.

00:29:48.060 Okay.

00:29:48.300 Sure.

00:29:48.680 But that doesn't mean that his political views have much stock in that.

00:29:50.620 I'm not talking about politics.

00:29:51.660 I'm talking about he's an American patriot that put himself on the line.

00:29:55.520 And this is what it's like.

00:29:56.500 Because they're going to screw around with our vote.

00:29:58.960 It's an important thing.

00:30:00.100 And you're about, oh, don't, you want to take away votes.

00:30:02.880 Oh, you got to show an ID.

00:30:03.700 I want to take away legal votes.

00:30:04.560 I'm talking about Russia.

00:30:05.480 Keep them out of our election.

00:30:07.260 But Tom.

00:30:07.900 What are you doing to keep them out of our election?

00:30:09.160 You want to keep people of color from voting by showing IDs or old people?

00:30:13.260 When have I ever suggested-

00:30:13.760 You want to make it harder for people to vote.

00:30:15.300 I want to make it harder for Russians to vote.

00:30:16.740 You know, Tom, that is a real accusation.

00:30:18.540 You're saying I want to keep black people from voting.

00:30:19.960 Well, you see what the, you see how many people can't vote.

00:30:23.040 You said it, Tom.

00:30:23.860 Who do you not want to vote?

00:30:26.300 Americans.

00:30:26.840 I don't want Russians to vote.

00:30:28.220 Well, really, I don't want Democrats to vote very much.

00:30:29.960 Right, okay.

00:30:30.760 But I think everybody has the right to vote.

00:30:34.160 Why are you trying to stop Americans from voting?

00:30:36.440 Stop Russians from voting.

00:30:38.020 Tom, I want people who have the right to vote to be able to vote.

00:30:41.200 And I want people who don't have the right to vote to not be able to vote.

00:30:43.260 But it's such a stupid thing.

00:30:44.820 Like, two people out of a billion vote more than once.

00:30:48.840 You're making a big deal out of it.

00:30:49.920 You think there are two illegal votes cast every year?

00:30:52.040 You think you're looking here, look over there.

00:30:54.140 Stop Russians from voting.

00:30:55.460 Put your energies to that.

00:30:56.860 This is a bull****** argument.

00:30:58.300 You know, you're spending all your time, trying to get Democrats so they can't vote.

00:31:01.500 So you get your idiot Republicans in office.

00:31:03.880 No, no, I want them to be able to vote.

00:31:04.380 I'd prefer if they voted for Republicans.

00:31:04.840 No, you just want to suppress black people and Republicans votes.

00:31:08.040 That's what you do.

00:31:08.780 You know, that's a big accusation.

00:31:10.020 Well, it's a fact.

00:31:10.840 It's an absolute fact.

00:31:11.780 You know it.

00:31:12.400 What is your evidence?

00:31:13.340 All you-

00:31:13.840 Facts.

00:31:14.820 Look at facts.

00:31:15.600 How many, 20, look at-

00:31:17.800 Tom.

00:31:18.180 It's a fact.

00:31:18.900 Look at Ohio.

00:31:19.660 How many people you stopped from voting.

00:31:21.040 They're people of color because they are Democrats.

00:31:23.480 You're right.

00:31:24.000 Tom, you're just saying things that are fantasies.

00:31:26.700 No, no, I'm saying they're facts.

00:31:28.700 Why don't you stop Russians voting?

00:31:30.280 Put your-

00:31:30.920 Be an American.

00:31:31.520 I don't think a lot of Russian nationals-

00:31:33.320 Be an American and not a f***ing political.

00:31:34.280 I think-

00:31:34.720 I don't think a lot of Russian nationals voted in our last election.

00:31:37.500 I don't think anybody suggested that.

00:31:38.500 Oh, but they were here campaigning.

00:31:39.840 They were here pretending to be-

00:31:41.120 They were lobbying Hillary Clinton to-

00:31:43.260 You know that.

00:31:43.940 You know better than that.

00:31:44.340 20% of the American production of uranium.

00:31:46.800 That's true.

00:31:47.480 When are you going to do the special-

00:31:48.080 Oh my God, that's bad.

00:31:49.000 Even Fox disproved that.

00:31:50.420 Disproved what?

00:31:51.560 Shepard Smith.

00:31:52.280 I'll send you the clip on-

00:31:53.120 What did that disprove?

00:31:54.420 That had quit Red Herring.

00:31:55.400 What did Fox disprove?

00:31:55.900 That's a f***ing Red Herring.

00:31:57.260 You know that.

00:31:58.060 Tom, you can-

00:31:58.760 You know that.

00:31:59.400 You can interrupt and distract and use profanity all you want.

00:32:02.540 I didn't know if you could.

00:32:03.480 Can't you use profanity?

00:32:04.300 Well, we'll edit it in post.

00:32:06.000 I'm sorry.

00:32:06.660 But Tom, you can distract and you can change the subject and you can interrupt all you want.

00:32:10.820 That doesn't change the reality of the situation.

00:32:13.180 Do you know who Sergio Milad is?

00:32:14.100 He's a source D in the Christopher Steele.

00:32:17.000 I'm supposed to find out if you know who he is.

00:32:18.460 Source D.

00:32:18.820 He's a guy who's in the room for the peepee stuff.

00:32:21.340 So the Steele dossier, because we've been talking about the Steele dossier paid for by Democrats

00:32:27.080 and lied about by Democrats and lied about by Democrats.

00:32:30.460 What do you mean they lied?

00:32:31.460 They lied about their involvement in it.

00:32:33.100 But it's all true.

00:32:33.700 Until just a month before the election.

00:32:35.040 It's all true though.

00:32:35.900 But we know that some of it's been disproved.

00:32:37.400 Do you care if it's true?

00:32:37.620 We know that it's been disproved.

00:32:39.420 By who?

00:32:39.720 No, no, no.

00:32:40.520 You can't say that.

00:32:41.220 It's been disproved.

00:32:41.760 I'll keep going then.

00:32:42.500 I'll prove it.

00:32:43.600 Isakov and Korn have proven it.

00:32:45.440 And I have a guest.

00:32:46.340 Let's go.

00:32:46.680 We're going to keep going on this stuff.

00:32:48.000 We'll really prove it.

00:32:48.840 So.

00:32:49.920 Let's see.

00:32:50.360 What do you think Christopher Steele's a hero?

00:32:52.460 This guy came to the aid of the United States.

00:32:54.480 He's worked with us.

00:32:55.080 I think he's a foreign interloper interfering in our elections.

00:32:57.640 That's what I think he is.

00:32:58.000 But then they're called allies.

00:32:58.800 Ironically.

00:32:59.120 We called allies.

00:32:59.960 You know our greatest allies.

00:33:01.220 So who do you think our allies are?

00:33:04.080 Jean Kim Il or whatever that's our ally?

00:33:08.120 Kim Jong Un?

00:33:08.860 Yeah.

00:33:09.060 Little rocket man?

00:33:09.820 Yeah.

00:33:10.780 No, seriously.

00:33:11.660 Who do you think our allies are?

00:33:13.520 Our allies are our allies.

00:33:14.840 We have a lot of allies around the world.

00:33:16.820 Oh, I suppose Italy.

00:33:18.540 I'll use my own heritage for a moment.

00:33:20.440 France really likes us now.

00:33:21.720 The French Premier Emmanuel Macron loves Donald Trump.

00:33:23.880 But he also said Donald Trump.

00:33:25.540 Don't be.

00:33:25.920 Did you give me a statement this week?

00:33:27.040 Hey, buddy.

00:33:27.600 Back up.

00:33:27.940 Israel is an ally of ours.

00:33:29.200 They're very happy with us now because Barack Obama turned on our ally.

00:33:32.480 Why do you keep talking?

00:33:33.080 Barack Obama isn't even in the news.

00:33:34.440 He doesn't even say anything.

00:33:35.260 Why are you dogging him?

00:33:36.440 Because.

00:33:36.680 What is it about that guy?

00:33:38.040 What is it that you guys feel you get blaming stuff on him?

00:33:40.880 What is he?

00:33:41.620 What's different about him?

00:33:42.240 He was a terrible, terrible president who damaged the country immensely.

00:33:45.280 Yeah.

00:33:45.540 That's why we keep talking about it.

00:33:46.640 No, I think there's something else about him.

00:33:48.680 There's something about him that you don't like.

00:33:51.040 He was a far left-wing Democrat who damaged the country, who destroyed a sixth of the economy.

00:33:54.700 Think about what the.

00:33:55.360 Who had the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.

00:33:57.320 You're aware of the economy when he took over.

00:33:59.280 Will you give him that?

00:34:00.140 Because you know facts.

00:34:00.980 Do you remember the economy when Barack Obama took over?

00:34:02.400 There was a financial crisis.

00:34:04.040 No, no, no.

00:34:04.620 Don't, don't.

00:34:05.180 And he had the worst recovery since the Great Depression.

00:34:07.720 Presided over it.

00:34:08.500 It was almost a depression.

00:34:09.780 We'd been in two wars.

00:34:10.700 Give him that.

00:34:12.020 Give him that.

00:34:12.360 Well, you know.

00:34:13.300 No, give him that.

00:34:14.140 Come on.

00:34:14.440 It is true that the vast majority of deaths, American soldier deaths in Afghanistan, occurred

00:34:17.980 under Barack Obama's watch.

00:34:19.340 Okay, but listen.

00:34:19.540 Because he was a wartime president.

00:34:20.640 Listen, don't be.

00:34:21.360 Who created more wars in the Middle East.

00:34:23.420 Come on.

00:34:24.240 Come on.

00:34:24.560 You're a smart kid.

00:34:25.400 Give him this, too.

00:34:26.080 He was the first black American president.

00:34:28.260 You remember that.

00:34:28.780 That's a big deal in this country.

00:34:29.880 This country.

00:34:30.820 What you're saying is the people who oppose Barack Obama are racist.

00:34:33.460 That's what you're saying.

00:34:33.840 No, no.

00:34:34.320 But this country had slavery.

00:34:36.280 Give him that.

00:34:37.240 We've been through a lot in this country.

00:34:38.400 There was slavery in America.

00:34:39.580 No, that's a big deal.

00:34:40.540 Acknowledge that that's a big deal.

00:34:42.100 And we went through Jim Crow.

00:34:43.700 And we threw it through.

00:34:44.460 Acknowledge that.

00:34:45.120 Don't overlook it.

00:34:46.100 Who denies that slavery was a bad thing?

00:34:48.120 But you have to acknowledge that we went through a lot.

00:34:51.520 So it was a big deal for all of us when he was elected.

00:34:55.380 Acknowledge it.

00:34:55.760 I wish he'd been a good president.

00:34:56.920 No, no, no.

00:34:57.260 It'd be nice if the first black president were a good president.

00:34:59.360 Take a moment.

00:35:00.380 Because you seem like an a** when you talk like that.

00:35:02.360 To just jump over that.

00:35:03.380 When I mentioned that he was a terrible president?

00:35:04.840 No, no.

00:35:05.160 To not take a beat and go, you know, that's a big deal.

00:35:07.920 And he did, that was a huge, to take just one side and go, the economy was the crapper.

00:35:13.700 He was awful around the board.

00:35:16.560 He lied to Americans repeatedly.

00:35:18.260 He was terrible on foreign affairs.

00:35:19.440 He was terrible on domestic affairs.

00:35:20.840 That's a very sad thing that the first black president was so awful.

00:35:23.340 Hold on.

00:35:23.620 You need to take a beat.

00:35:27.340 You need to take a beat.

00:35:28.900 You need to take a beat.

00:35:29.720 All right.

00:35:29.960 I'm going to take a beat and do one last ad and then we'll get back into the last segment of this.

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00:36:51.460 So my final point on this is all that we've heard about, we don't see the left making TV shows about the terrible economy or TV shows about the terrible foreign affairs or the TV shows about all the terrible oppression going on in the country because they couldn't.

00:37:07.500 None of that is happening.

00:37:08.940 All we're seeing shows on are Stormy Daniels, the porn star and the elusive tapes from a long discredited dossier and the this and the that.

00:37:19.320 Where, you know, and oh, I heard he said a bad word on tape or this or that.

00:37:23.180 Isn't that just because Democrats are distracting from how everything is going tickety-boo?

00:37:31.260 Good God, Brad.

00:37:34.540 You know, I guess we're all just going about our business.

00:37:37.620 You guys are making shows.

00:37:41.800 You know, you guys are hitting the same beat, too.

00:37:43.960 You just are going about.

00:37:45.980 But we're not making up stories.

00:37:48.100 Well, you're pretending they don't exist.

00:37:52.060 You're just going over.

00:37:53.940 You're just kind of going up here.

00:37:55.580 There are a lot of stories.

00:37:56.340 Tom, show me the tape of the Russian models urinating on the bed and then I'll say it's real.

00:38:02.140 Show me the tape right now.

00:38:03.240 Oh, no, I've got to save for it.

00:38:04.560 It's going to be on my show.

00:38:05.540 But it does exist.

00:38:06.000 But you have.

00:38:06.560 So now you're saying you do have the tape.

00:38:07.840 I'm saying it exists 100%.

00:38:09.480 I'm saying.

00:38:10.120 No, but do you have the tape?

00:38:11.020 I'm saying that.

00:38:12.040 I'm saying you will see.

00:38:13.200 Because you've accused him of all this.

00:38:14.440 I'll tell you what you're going to see.

00:38:15.920 If you don't think Trump says the N-word.

00:38:18.220 If you don't think Trump calls women all kinds of films.

00:38:20.620 Hold on.

00:38:21.000 You will see that.

00:38:22.140 We have the tape of Donald Trump saying the N-word.

00:38:24.660 Do we have it?

00:38:25.080 Can we play it?

00:38:27.120 There are white.

00:38:30.400 I've seen a lot of white in my time.

00:38:32.380 I'm going to use that word.

00:38:33.840 Today our country has lost a true American original.

00:38:36.880 My friend and mentor, Robert Seabird.

00:38:39.180 They're a white.

00:38:40.700 Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.

00:38:44.740 I've seen a lot of white in my time.

00:38:46.820 I'm going to use that word.

00:38:48.700 Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.

00:38:52.600 Today our country has lost a true American original.

00:38:55.620 My friend and mentor, Robert Seabird.

00:38:57.740 Guys, was that Donald Trump or was that Donald Trump or was that former Senate Majority Leader

00:39:03.060 Robert Byrd, the Democrat, whom Hillary Clinton referred to as her great friend and mentor?

00:39:07.520 Was that Trump?

00:39:08.380 I think it was the Democrat.

00:39:09.360 When are you going to do the story about this?

00:39:10.980 I did it.

00:39:11.540 That's hilarious.

00:39:12.680 Using the N-word.

00:39:13.840 It's not easy to use the N-word.

00:39:14.680 It's Robert Byrd.

00:39:16.260 Everybody's using the N-word.

00:39:17.000 You've never said the N-word?

00:39:18.060 I think every-

00:39:18.540 I weren't going to beat Peggy Plant.

00:39:20.900 So you've heard these words, but you-

00:39:22.460 I've heard these words.

00:39:22.980 Of course I have heard these words.

00:39:24.020 From Iowa.

00:39:24.940 But so-

00:39:25.700 Who hasn't?

00:39:26.200 My next door neighbor's dog was named the N-word.

00:39:28.780 All right.

00:39:29.040 They were like, of course.

00:39:31.000 So are you going to, so are you defending Donald Trump for allegedly using a racial slur

00:39:36.040 in an alleged video that nobody's seen?

00:39:38.460 Are you defending him now because everybody's said it?

00:39:40.580 Yeah.

00:39:41.060 I'm on this whole show.

00:39:42.640 I was to defend Donald Trump and say, Donald Trump, why?

00:39:45.660 Here's him saying the N-word.

00:39:46.640 Why?

00:39:47.000 Of course he said it.

00:39:47.640 It seems, Tom, it seems hypocritical.

00:39:49.480 I'm going to pee on the bed.

00:39:50.480 Of course he did that.

00:39:50.580 When you look at Robert Byrd and Hillary Clinton using, and you yourself say everybody's used

00:39:55.080 these slurs.

00:39:55.460 You realize she's not the president, though.

00:39:57.560 You can't take her down.

00:39:58.640 Thank you.

00:39:59.140 Yeah.

00:39:59.780 Good Lord.

00:40:00.480 That's wonderful.

00:40:01.360 And she's not the president because of Donald Trump.

00:40:03.120 A serious question.

00:40:03.600 Do you feel totally confident that he will not get us in some sort of war?

00:40:07.060 I think he has been incredible on foreign affairs.

00:40:09.940 Do you think he will not get us in a war, Michael?

00:40:11.720 I'm telling you, I'm asking you serious.

00:40:13.060 Do you think not one military soldier will die because of it?

00:40:16.580 I'm serious.

00:40:17.320 Well, wars happen all the time.

00:40:18.760 I mean, and we can't decide them, right?

00:40:20.440 The war on terror was thrust on us.

00:40:21.640 But I care.

00:40:22.540 You know, I don't think they'll get us into you.

00:40:24.300 I've been to Afghanistan.

00:40:25.240 I've been to Iraq.

00:40:25.940 I've been to all the places.

00:40:26.920 I talk to the families.

00:40:27.780 I do a lot of service work in that area.

00:40:29.400 Yeah.

00:40:29.800 Do you feel comfortable telling the servicemen and women and their families, America, that

00:40:34.000 that guy has got it together enough to not risk the lives of any man and woman?

00:40:37.880 Well, the military risks their lives to defend the country and attacks happen on us.

00:40:42.240 Do you feel 100% that he's confident?

00:40:43.480 I am 100% confident that he is a much more competent commander in chief than we've seen

00:40:49.180 in recent years and certainly more so than Barack Obama.

00:40:51.200 I'm 100% confident of that, confident.

00:40:53.720 Do you feel he's 100% confident?

00:40:56.200 Yes, I do.

00:40:56.980 I think if you just look at how his handling, we know that ISIS has been utterly militarily

00:41:01.360 demolished.

00:41:02.260 We're seeing some progress being made on the Korean situation.

00:41:04.940 It's the first inning, but it's being made.

00:41:06.400 That's pretty good.

00:41:07.220 We're seeing our allies finally coming around and cooperating with international agreements.

00:41:11.480 We're seeing countries like China who have violated World Trade Organization treaties

00:41:15.220 for years, finally coming to the table and negotiating.

00:41:18.080 We're seeing the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, saying that Donald Trump is responsible

00:41:22.340 for the surge in the global economy.

00:41:24.040 I am totally confident in this president, shocking as it is to say, on his handling of

00:41:29.320 foreign affairs.

00:41:29.960 Absolutely.

00:41:30.500 And I see no evidence to the contrary.

00:41:32.880 If you were a father, you might take pause before saying that.

00:41:37.040 I'm just telling you.

00:41:37.520 I'm just telling you.

00:41:38.660 How would...

00:41:39.380 Because...

00:41:40.300 I would say, okay, I'm not going to ignore those facts.

00:41:43.060 No, no.

00:41:43.360 It would be, again, like the thing at the border with the kids being taken away from

00:41:49.240 parents.

00:41:49.700 It would be more personal.

00:41:52.180 But it wouldn't change reality.

00:41:54.040 It does change reality.

00:41:55.280 What's your parent?

00:41:56.000 The reality changes.

00:41:57.180 Tom, we have actually hit on...

00:41:58.380 I've got to let you go because I know you've got a busy day.

00:42:00.060 I know.

00:42:01.880 We have actually hit on this.

00:42:02.780 The difference here is I'm sitting here saying, look, there's only this one reality that's

00:42:08.340 happening.

00:42:08.680 And you are literally saying right now, the personal is different than the reality.

00:42:12.300 There's the subjective reality.

00:42:13.820 There are multiple realities.

00:42:15.220 That explains it.

00:42:15.860 That explains the show.

00:42:16.620 That explains the Democrat campaigns for the last two years.

00:42:19.520 More than that.

00:42:20.560 Tom?

00:42:21.080 All right.

00:42:21.520 Great to have you on.

00:42:22.400 Thank you so much, pal.

00:42:23.460 Thank you, buddy.

00:42:23.500 I appreciate it.

00:42:24.360 I really...

00:42:24.840 And I really have to say this because it's a very fun conversation.

00:42:28.300 No Democrats, no left-wingers ever come on my show.

00:42:31.080 And you agreed to come on my show.

00:42:32.340 You're great.

00:42:32.880 You're great.

00:42:33.240 You're fantastic.

00:42:33.700 You're a smart kid.

00:42:34.780 All right.

00:42:35.100 Thank you very much.

00:42:36.000 Good luck to you.

00:42:36.700 All right.

00:42:36.960 We've got to cut out of here before we get to all the rest of the news if we have like

00:42:41.400 five minutes left.

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00:43:35.000 All right.

00:43:35.660 We've got to get back into this.

00:43:36.940 So, uh, I said, this was, we're talking about a lot of smoke and mirrors here.

00:43:40.580 All of the emotivism, all of the innuendo, not so much of the facts.

00:43:44.020 Listen to this from the Southern Poverty Law Center, you know, cause we, we could, uh,

00:43:48.480 we could just call all the news today frivolous nonsense.

00:43:50.920 So, uh, we're focusing on, uh, the Southern Poverty Law Center because they've named my little

00:43:56.660 old me, my PragerU video, the most egregious Prager video of all time.

00:44:00.800 And it's the video in which I attack the racists of the alternative right, but they're really

00:44:05.540 upset.

00:44:05.820 So here, so what is the Southern Poverty Law Center?

00:44:08.580 Uh, it's this massively funded, uh, uh, propaganda machine.

00:44:12.400 It's just this leftist propaganda machine.

00:44:14.320 That's all it is.

00:44:15.460 They, they, you know, they have this patina of credibility cause they have a interesting

00:44:19.140 sounding name.

00:44:19.960 They are nothing.

00:44:20.880 They spent $10 million on fundraising in 2015, way more than they did on legal services.

00:44:25.840 They transferred millions to offshore tax havens.

00:44:28.180 Uh, they smeared the Family Research Council, which is a pro-traditional family group.

00:44:33.120 A gunman who shot up that council cited the influence of the Southern Poverty Law Center

00:44:37.760 in his shooting.

00:44:39.300 Uh, there was mob violence at Charles Murray's speech at Middlebury.

00:44:43.460 Uh, a faculty member who was there cited Southern Poverty Law Center again as justification.

00:44:47.500 Two years ago, the FBI totally stopped citing SPLC as a source cause it's so frivolous.

00:44:53.660 Probably shouldn't have nonprofit status.

00:44:55.680 Its founder is just a direct marketing guru, Morris Dees.

00:44:58.700 He was actually inducted into the direct marketing hall of fame.

00:45:01.660 Real civil rights activists call him a con man.

00:45:04.860 And, uh, but he's so effective because all he does is rely on innuendo.

00:45:08.640 Just like we were talking about with Tom, it's that exact same.

00:45:10.660 It's all, well, what do you, you don't think this exists?

00:45:13.360 What you, come on, you don't, don't you really think?

00:45:15.300 It's all just innuendo.

00:45:16.680 And so, ironically, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become a hate group.

00:45:21.480 They're like against hate groups and they've become a hate group.

00:45:23.940 This is what they wrote about my video from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:45:26.900 Quote, the most egregious of PragerU's videos in Tripodi's opinion is what is the alt-right?

00:45:31.740 Hosted by conservative internet talk show host Michael Knowles.

00:45:34.780 The video posits that as an alternative to conservatism, the alt-right is most accurately compared with the left for three reasons.

00:45:40.980 The left and the alt-right are obsessed with identity politics.

00:45:43.320 Both focus on group identity rather than the individual and both the left and the alt-right ultimately reject God.

00:45:49.240 The video ends with Knowles declaring, in other words, the alt-right has nothing in common with conservatism and is in fact much closer to leftism.

00:45:55.740 Except, of course, that the left is much, much larger.

00:45:59.500 That's all they wrote.

00:46:00.200 They said it's the most egregious video and then they just quote my video.

00:46:05.740 But they don't give any evidence for why it's egregious.

00:46:08.220 They don't give any argument for why it's egregious.

00:46:10.440 They just, they make a blanket statement and then they just fill it in with words.

00:46:16.040 They just try to distract with frivolous nonsense, right?

00:46:19.340 It's just these distractions.

00:46:21.120 This, well, isn't, don't you think the economy is doing well?

00:46:23.180 Don't talk about the economy.

00:46:24.160 Talk about this imaginary video that everyone's been talking about.

00:46:27.360 Well, don't you think the foreign affairs, no, don't talk about that.

00:46:30.060 Don't talk about, right, it's all just distraction.

00:46:32.760 And by the way, this, this is how Donald Trump won.

00:46:35.800 I know it's become cliche to say this is how Donald Trump won or this is how Donald Trump won.

00:46:39.660 This is actually how he won.

00:46:41.480 Have you, have you heard about the ongoing saga of Chick-fil-A?

00:46:44.580 So, right, there was an article in the Huffington Post that said,

00:46:47.020 if you really love LGBTQ people, you just can't keep eating Chick-fil-A.

00:46:52.780 You can't, so if you really like gay people, you can't eat chicken sandwiches.

00:46:57.180 And this is what the article said.

00:46:58.680 It said, quote, if you care about queer people or yourself, you yourself are queer,

00:47:03.000 you have absolutely no business eating at Chick-fil-A ever.

00:47:06.020 It's really that straightforward.

00:47:08.440 And they dinged them because Chick-fil-A donates to the Salvation Army, which is Christian.

00:47:13.800 And if it's Christian, then it's bad because it's not part of the pride movement or something.

00:47:19.480 The politicization of everything is so tedious.

00:47:22.120 This base innuendo that everybody who doesn't agree with you is a bigot or a racist or a

00:47:27.940 this or a that, you know, it's so tedious and it's so divisive.

00:47:32.500 I mean, even, you know, the acronym LGBT is by definition divisive, right, because it keeps

00:47:36.980 dividing itself.

00:47:38.180 It's LGBTQ, P, LMNOP or something.

00:47:41.940 It just keeps going on and on and on to divide into smaller and smaller interest groups.

00:47:46.480 There isn't much of a common culture anymore.

00:47:48.680 There isn't, you don't see a lot of common culture.

00:47:50.740 We don't watch the same TV shows.

00:47:52.760 We, you know, it's, I, I, I'm going to watch Tom Arnold's show because, you know, we had

00:47:57.360 him on, but I suspect a lot of our audience probably isn't going to watch his show.

00:48:01.520 And it's not that we all watch different things, different movies, different news, different,

00:48:05.540 we read different books.

00:48:07.080 If we read it all, we don't have a common religion.

00:48:09.020 We don't even have a common traditional love of country.

00:48:11.800 And this is what makes Donald Trump appealing because Donald Trump appeals to like the last

00:48:18.680 remaining things that unite us.

00:48:21.480 And I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing.

00:48:22.880 I wish there was more that united us, but he appeals to winning.

00:48:26.080 At least everybody should want winning, right?

00:48:27.820 He appeals to good deals.

00:48:29.160 We're going to get good deals, right?

00:48:30.460 Okay.

00:48:30.700 That appeals to all of us.

00:48:32.120 Strength, peace, even football, right?

00:48:34.360 He, you know, when a football, at least you think that could unite all of us.

00:48:37.580 And then that guy, Colin Kaepernick, tried to make that divisive as well and tried to

00:48:44.540 protest against the symbol of America itself.

00:48:46.980 And he called them out on it.

00:48:47.900 People don't want that.

00:48:49.180 This presidency, ironically, of Donald Trump is essentially a call for unity, again, in

00:48:54.360 its own very brash Trumpian way.

00:48:56.800 You know, he says things like, we all have the same blood of patriots.

00:48:59.960 We all bleed the same blood of patriots.

00:49:02.100 What made Barack Obama so tedious, it was all just about poking his opponents, all just about

00:49:06.320 dividing and dividing, talking about why men should use the little girl's bathroom and

00:49:11.180 painting the White House in rainbow colors of light, right?

00:49:13.800 You know, it's so just divisive, writing off his countrymen as bitter clingers.

00:49:18.460 I mean, listen to that.

00:49:19.480 I asked Tom, I said, are you calling half the country racist?

00:49:22.000 And he said, no.

00:49:22.800 And then he called half the country racist that, you know, when you write off your countrymen

00:49:27.180 as bitter clingers like Barack Obama did, or Hillary Clinton writes them off as deplorable

00:49:31.580 and irredeemable, that, that, people don't like that.

00:49:36.940 People don't, you know, that's not aspirational.

00:49:39.560 That's not inspired.

00:49:41.040 That's just ugly and crass and base and divisive.

00:49:44.340 And the good news for us is as long as our political opponents on the left keep that up,

00:49:49.180 I think things are going to look up for us.

00:49:50.780 I mean, there's a real aspirational quality to this presidency, to this political moment.

00:49:54.880 And Bill Kristol, the erstwhile Republican commentator and conservative commentator,

00:50:01.360 he said the Reagan years were aspirational and Trump isn't.

00:50:04.300 He's missing it.

00:50:05.140 People are missing this.

00:50:06.140 This is an aspirational moment of coming together, of succeeding, of trying to bring North Korea

00:50:11.240 to the table.

00:50:11.900 And we had a good first inning.

00:50:13.300 Hopefully it goes all the way to the end.

00:50:14.620 This is a good moment.

00:50:16.240 And the left is relying strictly on smoke and mirrors.

00:50:19.220 It is all illusion and innuendo and smoke and mirrors.

00:50:21.920 And it's best just to smack it down and to ignore it.

00:50:26.800 All right, that's the rest of our show.

00:50:28.380 It's going to be hard to beat that one.

00:50:29.860 Tom is a lively personality.

00:50:32.140 But we won't be back tomorrow.

00:50:33.220 We have another great guest.

00:50:34.580 And then we've got some more good stuff planned.

00:50:36.320 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

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Ep. 167 - The Smoke-And-Mirrors Left

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