The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1676 - Trans Monkeys Explained in 5 Minutes

00:00:00.060 A big day for bioethics. The House Oversight Committee discovers that Dr. Fauci spent 241

00:00:07.020 million of your taxpayer dollars transing monkeys and other animals. Dr. Deborah Birx,

00:00:13.380 you remember she was the scarf lady during the COVID lockdowns. She finally admits that they 0.98

00:00:18.140 all lied to you about the COVID vaccines, I guess better late than never. And President Trump signs

00:00:22.960 an executive order vastly expanding in vitro fertilization. I'm Michael Knowles, this is

00:00:28.880 The Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. Speaking of bioethics and new laws and

00:00:54.560 regulations, the Ohio legislature is considering banning all sex not intended for procreation.

00:01:02.740 But there is a little catch that the Democrats snuck in there. There's so much more to say first

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00:02:12.780 that is balanceofnature.com promo code K-N-O-W-L-E-S. $241 million. This thanks to Eli Crane and the House

00:02:24.660 Oversight Committee discovering, thanks to a testimony specifically from the Senior Vice

00:02:31.460 President of Advocacy and Public Policy at White Coast Waste Project. This is Justin Goodman.

00:02:37.900 On the $241 million that Dr. Fauci greenlit to trans-various animals.

00:02:48.040 These cases, they're involved mice, rats, monkeys who are being surgically mutilated and subjected

00:02:56.740 to hormone therapies to mimic female to male or male to female gender transitions,

00:03:03.540 gender-affirming hormone therapies, and then looking at the biological, psychological,

00:03:11.480 and physiological effects of the gender transitions, looking at the effects of taking vaccines after

00:03:17.480 you've transitioned these animals from male to female or female to male, looking at the size of

00:03:23.960 their genitals changing after you've put them on estrogen or testosterone therapies to transition 0.95

00:03:30.160 them. And in the case that the chairwoman, the example the chairwoman gave, there was a $1.1 million

00:03:37.720 grant to give female lab rats testosterone to mimic transgender male humans and then overdose them 0.99

00:03:47.340 with this party drug to see if animals who were taking test, female animals taking testosterone were 1.00

00:03:55.300 more likely to overdose on the sex party drug than animals who were not taking testosterone.

00:04:01.580 Okay, so there are a few layers there, just in case you missed it. The public health officials in the

00:04:09.660 United States, notably Dr. Fauci, greenlit all of this money, hundreds of millions of dollars,

00:04:15.900 to trans different animals, monkeys and other animals. But it didn't stop there. Then they transed a 1.00

00:04:24.860 bunch of different animals and gave them hardcore party drugs to see if the transed animals reacted 1.00

00:04:34.140 in a more severe way to the hardcore party drugs. And the immediate conservative reaction to this

00:04:41.340 is going to be that this is a clear example of government waste and what a stupid, feckless,

00:04:47.480 wasteful use of money. That's not the real story here. You have to ask yourself, people like Dr.

00:04:54.200 Fauci, they might be wrong about everything. They might be malicious. They might be just a generally

00:04:58.680 malignant kind of force in public life. But they're not stupid, actually. A lot of them are pretty

00:05:04.880 clever. A lot of them are really good at wielding power. Dr. Fauci became the most powerful politician

00:05:09.400 in America for years. So they got a couple brain cells to rub together. Why are they doing this?

00:05:15.700 There is, in fact, a medical argument and a political argument for running these kinds of studies

00:05:23.340 in a permissive society. The reason they're doing this is not to figure out if monkeys want to go

00:05:28.220 trans. It's because human beings have gone trans increasingly in recent years. And so they are testing 1.00

00:05:34.480 the effects of transgender procedures and even the effects of hardcore party drugs that sexually 0.99

00:05:42.720 deviant people often engage in on the sexually deviant monkeys that are supposed to simulate

00:05:49.280 sexually deviant human people. That's what it's for. They are testing, just like the same reason 0.99

00:05:55.140 they do all sorts of other medical tests on animals, is to explore what these things look like in human

00:06:02.020 beings. And we live in a really permissive society that tolerates hardcore party drugs, that tolerates

00:06:08.000 transing people and all sorts of other weird sexual behaviors. So it actually does stand to 0.99

00:06:12.360 reason that we would test out the medical effects of these things on animals. The problem is we

00:06:19.800 shouldn't be so permissive. If we were not such a permissive society in recent decades, really

00:06:26.300 beginning in the 1960s but exploding in recent years, if we were not this permissive, we wouldn't

00:06:32.440 have to blow $241 million testing out the effects of bizarre hormone therapies and hardcore party drugs

00:06:40.240 on monkeys. Because we wouldn't have to worry about the public health effects of that on human beings.

00:06:47.360 It makes sense that we're doing these studies, given our political insanity. But there's a simple,

00:06:53.840 much more cost-effective way to deal with these problems that's actually much more conducive to

00:06:58.940 human flourishing. And that's to say, no, you don't get to do the hardcore party drugs. No, you don't get to

00:07:04.600 go on cross-sex hormones. No, you don't get to chop your body up. No, we're not going to tolerate all 1.00

00:07:09.680 of this extreme sexual deviancy. Just act normal. It'll be better for the taxpayer dollars. It'll be

00:07:19.080 better for the monkeys. And it will be better for the people too. Now, speaking of our public health

00:07:26.640 officials coming clean with some of their dubious spending, Dr. Deborah Birx, Dr. Scarf herself,

00:07:35.040 one of the faces of the American response to the coronavirus pandemic. And at this point, what,

00:07:40.580 five years ago, Dr. Birx has come out and admitted not only did the COVID vaccines not prevent infection,

00:07:49.720 as we were told they did, they were never designed to prevent infection. It's not just that the

00:07:57.400 vaccines failed to do what they were supposed to do. What Dr. Birx, one of the top authorities on

00:08:04.920 COVID is now admitting is, yeah, they were never supposed to do that in the first place.

00:08:10.220 The public health officials, we all just kind of lied to you.

00:08:13.560 That is not what the COVID vaccine was designed to do. It wasn't designed against infection. And if

00:08:20.820 you look at the vaccine hesitancy rates, they've doubled since COVID. So we have to start addressing

00:08:27.660 these things. We can't just ignore them. And Deborah, let me ask you, let me ask you,

00:08:31.000 Deborah, I mean, given that you were the face of COVID from the Trump presidency at the time,

00:08:36.560 do you share, this doctor who I was with, do you share the concerns about the longer term

00:08:42.360 negative impact of some of the COVID vaccines?

00:08:47.060 The messenger RNA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe

00:08:52.800 disease, because that's what the disease, that's what the vaccine was developed for. But when we say

00:08:58.340 that we're following the science and the data, we need to follow the science and the data. And the

00:09:03.540 science and the data said people primarily over 65 or people with significant comorbidities were at risk

00:09:09.500 for severe disease. Those are the individuals that should have been immunized first. And we should

00:09:15.180 have put our science behind our immunization schedule and protected those most at risk.

00:09:22.340 Okay, so I'm glad to hear this now, but I don't even know if I should believe this now.

00:09:28.520 I guess I knew the whole time that the COVID vaccines were not going to prevent infection.

00:09:32.840 People with common sense knew that. No one really trusted Fauci by the time these vaccines came out.

00:09:37.880 But really, I have no reason to even trust Dr. Birx at this point when she's admitting that they

00:09:44.100 were all lying five years ago, because she's admitting that they were liars.

00:09:48.480 And I love the way she phrases this. She goes, you know, the real tragedy here

00:09:52.660 is that now we weren't following the science, okay? And that means that people are distrusting

00:09:58.180 the public health officials. I don't know that that's the big, I don't think the big tragedy is we

00:10:04.300 don't trust Dr. Fauci anymore. I think the big tragedy is people were forced, were mandated by

00:10:09.740 the government in many cases to take a dangerous drug that for some people was needlessly dangerous

00:10:18.380 against their will, against the medical literature. In some cases, people died. In some cases,

00:10:24.580 people got blood clots or myocarditis and died for no reason whatsoever. That's the issue. You know,

00:10:29.960 it's the great Norm Macdonald joke. He says, you know, people say that the problem with Bill Cosby,

00:10:34.280 that the worst thing was the hypocrisy. I don't think it was the worst thing. I think the worst

00:10:37.760 thing was the raping. I think hypocrisy was pretty low on the list, actually. That's how I feel here.

00:10:41.940 Yeah, the distrust of the NIH now, I guess that's a problem. But I think it's more the people getting

00:10:47.740 myocarditis and blood clots and dying. To me, that's the bigger problem.

00:10:51.480 It is difficult to overstate what an admission this is. People lost their jobs. They were forced

00:11:00.320 out of their careers. In some cases, they were just mandated to get it. We were told.

00:11:08.180 Well, you know what? I actually have the clip. The clips were scrubbed from the internet largely,

00:11:12.260 but in an earlier show years ago now at this point, I was able to bring them back together.

00:11:16.540 And then I actually had to go back to my show to even find the compilation. This is what we were told.

00:11:21.200 By all the geniuses back during COVID.

00:11:25.340 You're okay. You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.

00:11:30.480 These vaccines are highly, highly effective.

00:11:34.040 Vaccinated people do not carry the virus. Don't get sick.

00:11:37.620 They're really, really good against variants.

00:11:39.820 Everyone who takes the vaccine is not just protecting themselves, but reducing their transmission

00:11:44.920 to other people and allowing society to get back to normal.

00:11:48.580 Get your first shot. And when you're due for your second, get your second shot.

00:11:51.900 A key goal is to stop the transmission, to get the immunity levels up so that you get almost no,

00:11:57.000 almost no infection going on whatsoever.

00:12:00.560 When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected.

00:12:04.480 Okay. Are all of those people just the stupidest people in the country? Are they all just completely brain dead?

00:12:13.360 Some of them are smarter than others. Fair enough.

00:12:17.600 But, but a number of people there are reasonably intelligent.

00:12:21.720 A number of people there, including Dr. Fauci, but in Bill Gates, Bill Gates, pretty smart guy.

00:12:28.780 These are people who ostensibly were in the know.

00:12:33.860 But Dr. Birx just, Dr. Birx is not some kook, fringe, conspiracy.

00:12:37.580 She was one of, she was one of them.

00:12:38.860 She was one of the faces.

00:12:40.400 One of probably the top three faces of coronavirus.

00:12:42.580 And she just said, yeah, the vaccine was never supposed to prevent infection.

00:12:47.720 So what conclusion am I supposed to come to other than they lied to you.

00:12:52.300 They lied to you.

00:12:54.000 They forced you to take a dangerous drug needlessly or to lose your careers and your livelihood.

00:13:01.560 And is it any wonder that everyone is now cheering on Elon Musk and the House Oversight Committee

00:13:10.980 and the Trump administration broadly when they go in and ruthlessly gut these agencies?

00:13:18.480 That should be no surprise whatsoever.

00:13:21.380 The people, it's not just the NIH.

00:13:23.720 It's not just the Fauci's of the world.

00:13:25.300 It's USAID.

00:13:26.540 It's the IRS.

00:13:27.440 It's, it's so much of the federal apparatus.

00:13:30.380 These people who are, who are losing their jobs now, these people who are losing their power now

00:13:36.640 and whose demise the American people are applauding.

00:13:40.600 Those people have no one to blame but themselves.

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00:15:16.720 Speaking of bioethics, a little bit of bad news.

00:15:19.140 The Trump administration, thus far, has been basically one relentless roller coaster of joy and triumph, okay?

00:15:31.240 The Trump administration, thus far, all the executive orders, a little bit of legislation they were able to get through Congress,

00:15:38.980 the foreign initiatives, the government efficiency initiatives, everything has just been amazing.

00:15:45.620 Exceeded my wildest expectations, and I already had very high expectations for the administration.

00:15:53.180 However, it is impossible for an administration to bat 1,000 all of the time, 1.00

00:15:58.820 and so they just hit their first hiccup.

00:16:01.280 An announcement yesterday that the White House is pushing an executive order to vastly expand in vitro fertilization.

00:16:10.980 Here's the announcement, and it's not even President Trump making the announcement.

00:16:14.580 This is President Trump introducing a member of the staff to make the announcement on behalf of the administration.

00:16:23.840 Explain what we did. Thank you.

00:16:27.320 Good afternoon, y'all.

00:16:28.940 A short while ago, President Trump signed three items.

00:16:34.480 The first is an executive order relating to the affordability and availability of in vitro fertilization and other fertility treatments.

00:16:41.980 These are treatments that have become unaffordable for many Americans or have been unaffordable for many Americans.

00:16:48.440 And the executive order is a directive to the Domestic Policy Council to examine ways to make IVF and other fertility treatments more affordable for more Americans.

00:16:59.120 There you go, and you see he moves on.

00:17:00.640 So already, right off the top, what this tells me is this IVFEO is not a top priority for President Trump, nor should it be.

00:17:08.700 Certainly it should not be.

00:17:10.240 Trump himself is not even making the announcement.

00:17:12.780 He has a deputy making the announcement.

00:17:15.820 And even when the staff member comes out, he doesn't say, this is the big day.

00:17:20.880 All right, we're finally fulfilling our grand promise on in vitro fertilization.

00:17:25.800 No one voted for Trump for in vitro fertilization.

00:17:28.060 He says, okay, we got a few things that we did.

00:17:30.340 One is on IVF.

00:17:31.500 Then we're moving on to number two, number three.

00:17:33.900 This is bad.

00:17:35.060 I'm not going to sugarcoat it in any way.

00:17:36.940 IVF is really bad.

00:17:38.400 And it seems good to some people at first glance because kids are good and because infertility is very, very difficult to deal with.

00:17:47.400 My wife and I dealt with it for a couple of years when we were first married, trying to have our first kid.

00:17:52.560 I can empathize with you.

00:17:54.280 I know how bad it is.

00:17:55.800 And kids are always good.

00:17:57.220 But good ends do not justify immoral means.

00:18:01.780 Okay?

00:18:02.180 And the reality of IVF is, just as a practical matter, it immediately increases the number of abortions by many multiples, if not by orders of magnitude.

00:18:14.380 Okay?

00:18:14.660 Because the way in vitro fertilization really works, not in the brochures and the advertisements they give you in the fertility clinic, but in reality, the way that IVF works in practice is, multiple human beings are created.

00:18:27.400 I'll just take you through IVF.

00:18:29.040 They procure semen from men through a disgraceful and embarrassing and intrinsically disordered act that we don't need to talk too much about.

00:18:39.220 So, right off the bat, not a reputable procedure.

00:18:42.500 Okay?

00:18:42.720 Not the sort of thing you write home to granny about. 0.99

00:18:45.060 Then, they procure the eggs from the woman through a terribly invasive and painful procedure.

00:18:52.500 They get that from the women. 1.00

00:18:54.840 And then, they create multiple human beings.

00:18:59.040 Could be three, could be five, could be ten, could be fifteen human beings.

00:19:03.260 They just make all these embryos. 0.99

00:19:04.920 And then, they start to test them.

00:19:07.300 All right, do you want a boy?

00:19:08.100 Do you want a girl? 0.98

00:19:08.840 Ah, this one might not have the perfect genetics.

00:19:10.820 Okay, well, you know what?

00:19:12.380 We're going to pick two or three or four, and we're going to implant them.

00:19:15.020 Then, if too many of them take, they will kill some of them through abortion. 0.89

00:19:20.820 They have all sorts of euphemisms to describe a reduction of the embryos, but what it comes down to is abortion.

00:19:27.180 They'll kill some of them. 0.99

00:19:28.880 For the ones that do take, they might be born, though the odds of success are actually very low.

00:19:34.700 It's a very expensive procedure.

00:19:36.320 It's a very painful emotional and physically procedure.

00:19:38.780 And the odds of it actually working are relatively low.

00:19:41.640 Then, you still have all these human beings in a petri dish.

00:19:44.160 Those human beings, your kids, are just being put into a freezer indefinitely or until later on down the road when they will be destroyed and killed.

00:19:52.920 So, right off the bat, if IVF is to be expanded, unfortunately, we will go from having the most pro-life administration ever in American history, bar none, to the most radically pro-abortion administration ever.

00:20:05.940 And I think it will be unintentional.

00:20:07.380 I don't even blame Trump or many of the White House staff personally for this.

00:20:10.700 That's just what's going to happen.

00:20:11.640 Most people don't know how IVF really works.

00:20:13.580 But that will increase the abortion rate dramatically, unimaginably, because we don't know how widespread this would be.

00:20:21.980 On top of that, that's not even the essential reason that IVF is so wrong.

00:20:26.120 The essential reason that IVF is so wrong is that in procreation, the only people who can be said to have ultimate legitimate rights are the children.

00:20:36.620 The right of a child to be the product of the specific conjugal act of his mother and father joined together in a lifelong marriage.

00:20:43.160 That's, if we're speaking philosophically and ethically here, those are the people who have rights.

00:20:49.040 Parents do not have the right to procure a child. 0.67

00:20:51.540 Children are goods.

00:20:53.180 They're a gift from God.

00:20:54.280 They're wonderful.

00:20:55.060 But you don't have a right to a child like you have the right to go purchase a handbag.

00:20:58.620 Now, where the rubber meets the road here is that by establishing the domination of science and technology over the origin and destiny of human life, what IVF does is sets up these hideous scenarios where, as is being litigated right now, you sometimes have the case of the scientist in the laboratory accidentally mixing up the sperm and the egg.

00:21:19.700 So you create a human being from the genetics of a man and a woman who might not have ever met each other. 0.79

00:21:27.900 Now you've got a child who not only will not know his natural mother and father, but who, in principle, basically can't know his natural mother and father.

00:21:35.380 The mother and father probably don't even know each other.

00:21:37.560 Now, sometimes the babies are created from the right sperm and egg, but they're implanted in the wrong wombs. 0.94

00:21:43.680 And even the babies will be raised for some period of time by the wrong parents before this is sorted out.

00:21:48.340 These are all real cases.

00:21:49.700 That have been litigated just in recent years.

00:21:52.640 On top of that, you have a study that came out that showed that kids who are born via surrogacy, which often attends to the IVF procedure, are significantly more likely to experience antisocial behavior, depression, and anxiety by the age of seven.

00:22:09.620 So just the surrogacy alone creates major problems.

00:22:12.780 On top of that, the IVF and surrogacy incentivize single parents to intentionally create children with the express intent of denying that child his natural mother or father. 0.89

00:22:24.800 On top of that, the IVF procedure permits homosexual couples to intentionally create children in order to deprive those children of their natural mother and father. 0.99

00:22:35.620 I could go on and on.

00:22:36.880 We could be here for hours discussing the many, many evils that attend to IVF that most people don't think of because all they know is their friend or their cousin or even their own kid was born via IVF.

00:22:49.960 And they didn't really give it a lot of serious bioethical thought, and they just don't want to hear about it.

00:22:54.040 They don't want to think about it.

00:22:54.720 It's okay.

00:22:55.040 You can love your kid or your cousin or your friend born via IVF and not embrace, in principle, this relatively novel technology that is just not ethically defensible.

00:23:06.960 So those are all the moral arguments for why this is a bad idea to expand.

00:23:11.380 There is a political side of it, too, though, which I think a lot of—some people are just not appreciating on the Republican side of the aisle right now.

00:23:18.900 Namely, you are going to alienate a lot of your base.

00:23:22.280 The pro-life movement is not for this.

00:23:26.200 The Catholics have been opposed to this for decades.

00:23:28.640 The Southern Baptists, the largest Protestant denomination in the country, is opposed to IVF, articulated that view just about a year ago.

00:23:36.540 This is not only morally a big problem.

00:23:39.960 This is politically a big issue.

00:23:41.880 There is very little political upside in this for the Trump administration.

00:23:45.780 The Trump administration is not going to get credit from the people who love IVF.

00:23:49.300 All those liberals and leftists are still going to hate Trump.

00:23:53.060 But he's going to lose a lot of support from some of his most important supporters.

00:23:57.860 And just on the ethical and moral side of it, it's just not worth it.

00:24:01.840 So I actually, in some ways, appreciate the way that this was rolled out.

00:24:07.000 It wasn't rolled out by Trump himself.

00:24:08.460 Not with the big signing, you know, in front of all the cameras.

00:24:11.420 It was just a staff member who brought it up among other EOs.

00:24:16.960 And it's really just instructing a council to look into ways to reduce costs.

00:24:20.900 So it's so removed.

00:24:22.560 It seems to me this is coming from someone who is as supportive of President Trump as it is possible to be.

00:24:29.600 And that has been true for almost a decade now, okay?

00:24:32.660 Someone very much with the interests of this administration at heart, you can scrap it.

00:24:38.880 Just scrap it.

00:24:39.860 Slow walk it.

00:24:40.740 Have this domestic policy council write up some report in six or eight months.

00:24:45.360 And then just forget about it.

00:24:47.700 Ethically, morally, this is not a good idea.

00:24:49.960 Yeah, it's going to become a worse and worse idea over time as people become aware of the bioethical problems with IVF.

00:24:56.960 But just politically, it's not, the juice is not worth the squeeze.

00:25:01.000 You're not, you get basically no upside.

00:25:03.220 And you get a lot of political downside.

00:25:05.300 It's okay.

00:25:06.020 There's no knock.

00:25:06.700 It happens to everyone.

00:25:07.960 This means that the Trump admin in its first three weeks is batting 999 instead of 1,000.

00:25:13.420 Okay, that's fine.

00:25:14.860 People will look past that.

00:25:16.580 There will be plenty of grace, especially for how great things are.

00:25:18.620 Or, scrap it.

00:25:20.220 This is not, it is not worth it.

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00:26:36.260 White House Deputy Chief of Staff, all around MAGA legend, Stephen Miller, just appeared on CNN to defend the administration's policies broadly,

00:26:49.780 to defend the deportations, which is an area of policy strength for Stephen Miller,

00:26:55.340 and just generally to destroy the network on which Mr. Miller was a guest.

00:27:01.140 You mentioned yesterday, and you mentioned again here, illegal immigrants who are getting child tax credits.

00:27:11.780 Are you looking for that information in the IRS data?

00:27:18.220 Any time a crime is committed, of course there should be an investigation.

00:27:24.480 Is it your position that if somebody who is here criminally is stealing taxpayer dollars?

00:27:31.140 The federal government will find every illegal alien who is stealing American taxpayer dollars. 1.00

00:27:38.000 And that is what Americans expect to happen.

00:27:39.620 Will you find that in the IRS data and share that with law enforcement?

00:27:40.200 I don't even fathom the premise of your question.

00:27:43.620 It's a simple question.

00:27:44.720 Will you find that information in the IRS data and share that with law enforcement?

00:27:48.300 If IRS investigators find illegal aliens stealing taxpayer money, of course they'll be referred to ICE.

00:27:53.920 Of course they'll be referred to Homeland Security investigations.

00:27:56.780 That CNN, which is endlessly talked about the importance of democracy and the rule of law,

00:28:02.440 would say that no class in this country should be above the law, least of all illegal aliens who have trespassed on our territory.

00:28:09.200 Stephen, I'm just asking, I wanted to get your position on some things.

00:28:14.180 CNN's not taking a position.

00:28:15.620 No, no, they're just the facts, Jack.

00:28:18.140 Straight down the middle.

00:28:19.640 Objective, neutral, centrist?

00:28:21.280 I don't think so.

00:28:22.440 Stephen Miller goes on, he says, oh yeah, yeah, I think you might be a little bit biased, CNN.

00:28:27.060 CNN just comes off looking so out of touch here to me.

00:28:31.940 Because you can tell from the beginning of her line of questioning, she says, so as the Trump team looks into the IRS data,

00:28:41.400 are they going to refer those data to law enforcement, specifically with child tax credits?

00:28:47.940 Ah, see, what she's doing here is she's trying to paint the deportations as a matter of deporting the doe-eyed sweet little dreamers. 0.99

00:28:53.960 But that's not who President Trump has been deporting.

00:28:57.080 President Trump has prioritized deporting face-tattooed Mexican gangsters and Trende Aragua criminals from Venezuela and murderers and rapists and all these terrible people.

00:29:08.340 It's not the doe-eyed little dreamers.

00:29:09.800 The dreamers, by the way, are like 43 at this point.

00:29:13.160 Okay, so that's what she's trying to get at.

00:29:15.980 Oh, is it the child tax credit?

00:29:17.640 And Stephen Miller, he says, yeah, we're looking at, of course we're looking at IRS data.

00:29:22.420 We're the government now.

00:29:23.480 You know, we're allowed to look at the government data.

00:29:25.540 And we're looking at it for evidence of crimes.

00:29:28.560 Crimes committed by people who have no right to be in this country in the first place. 0.94

00:29:33.640 Crimes committed by people who are stealing taxpayer dollars.

00:29:36.620 And yeah, we're referring that to law enforcement.

00:29:40.500 She goes, oh yeah.

00:29:41.400 Yeah, that's a simple question.

00:29:42.240 You refer that to law enforcement, huh?

00:29:43.920 He goes, yeah.

00:29:44.460 So it's actually a pretty honest debate.

00:29:47.540 Despite how dishonest the media want to be, it's actually a pretty honest debate.

00:29:52.860 Should we tolerate the presence of 11 to 16 million foreign nationals in our country illegally? 1.00

00:30:01.320 Or should we not?

00:30:03.000 That was on the ballot in November.

00:30:04.480 The people voted.

00:30:05.240 The majority of Americans voted to deport them.

00:30:07.840 46% of Hispanics voted to deport them.

00:30:11.740 Most people voted for that.

00:30:14.460 Well, should we consider illegal immigrants to be criminals?

00:30:20.120 That was on the ballot in November.

00:30:21.800 It was a fair fight.

00:30:23.060 Whatever you want to say about Donald Trump, you can't say he hid the ball.

00:30:27.460 What CNN fails to understand, they still haven't learned this lesson from November, is mass deportations are a mainstream majority public opinion issue right now.

00:30:41.640 Well, I wouldn't have guessed it five years ago.

00:30:44.300 So in some ways, I'm just as surprised as CNN is.

00:30:46.800 But that is a fact.

00:30:48.460 They have not made sense of it.

00:30:49.960 It seems so, so out of touch.

00:30:52.260 The liberals, the establishment generally, are just, they just seem out of touch.

00:30:57.200 I don't know if it's because Trump won the popular vote.

00:30:59.620 I don't know if it's because his first few weeks in office have been so exciting and have led to good approval ratings and good ratings, not just on Trump's approval broadly, but on the things that he's actually doing and the fact that he's fulfilling his campaign promises.

00:31:14.280 That's even according to liberal polls, but it just seems out of touch.

00:31:17.940 Like this establishment lawyer out of San Antonio who just went viral for his appearance on a podcast explaining how he loved sending his kids to private school, but he doesn't want poor kids to have the same opportunity that he had.

00:31:33.820 My wife and I are both.

00:31:35.200 My wife's a physician.

00:31:36.480 I'm a lawyer, obviously, and we're both products of public school education.

00:31:40.660 When we moved into the San Antonio ISD boundary, our local schools just weren't performing, so we opted to go private and eventually into the archdiocese schools here in San Antonio.

00:31:54.540 We paid a lot of money.

00:31:56.220 We didn't ask anyone to supplement that or to help pay for that.

00:32:01.220 That was a personal decision that my wife and I did, and our kids were well-educated.

00:32:07.020 Okay, this just comes off so terribly, and I feel for this guy.

00:32:13.700 In fact, I think this guy's a Republican.

00:32:16.100 I looked him up, did a little cursory search.

00:32:17.740 I think he's a Republican, kind of Chamber of Commerce type.

00:32:21.020 At least that's what was popping up in some of the San Antonio records.

00:32:24.420 And he doesn't hear how this sounds.

00:32:28.280 Because also, it doesn't sound like he's a billionaire.

00:32:30.340 He's in the upper middle class.

00:32:31.700 He's a lawyer.

00:32:32.360 His wife's a physician.

00:32:33.140 I mean, it's not easy to send kids to private school, even if you've got a good salary and you've got a good professional job.

00:32:39.460 So he's saying, look, we did it.

00:32:41.240 We scrimped and we saved and we sacrificed in some ways.

00:32:43.960 We sent our kids to private school.

00:32:45.660 And we didn't ask anyone to help us out with that.

00:32:47.940 We didn't ask for school vouchers or school choice.

00:32:51.660 But the effect that he's saying is, look, the public schools were failing.

00:32:55.720 We weren't going to send our precious kids to those public schools.

00:32:58.020 We were going to do whatever we had to do to send them to private school.

00:33:01.560 But people who aren't doctors and physicians, they don't get to send their kids to the good private schools.

00:33:08.400 Why not?

00:33:09.960 Why not?

00:33:10.440 All school choice does is just recognize that a lot of schools are failing and give parents an option to maybe at least have a chance of getting their kids out of those failing schools and getting them to places that are going to teach them.

00:33:23.680 Now, there have been plenty of conservatives excoriating this guy for his commentary and for how out of touch he sounds.

00:33:31.500 However, he raises a good point here.

00:33:34.400 He raises a good point that conservatives need to take seriously.

00:33:38.120 He shows that school choice really cannot be the end goal for conservatives.

00:33:43.560 So I think it's a good strategy.

00:33:45.040 I think it's a good defensive posture.

00:33:46.200 I think it's a good intermediate step to help us get a foothold after the left totally dominated education.

00:33:52.040 But it can't be the end goal.

00:33:54.380 And here's why.

00:33:55.200 He says, look, we weren't asking people to pay for our kids to go to the Catholic school.

00:34:00.340 I don't expect that.

00:34:01.920 And I think what he's insinuating here is he doesn't want to pay for other people's kids to go to some school that he disapproves of.

00:34:09.340 Think about this.

00:34:10.040 We're all for school choice and taking some of that public money and sending it so a kid can go to a Catholic school or some other kind of school.

00:34:18.100 But would we be just as copacetic about it if taxpayer dollars were being used for school choice coupons to send kids to the trans, furry, Antifa academy instead of the local parochial school? 0.72

00:34:34.280 We said, look, it's school choice.

00:34:35.320 You know, you can send your kid to whatever school he wants.

00:34:36.900 Okay, so maybe you want to send your kid to the local Catholic school.

00:34:40.040 I want to send my kid to Antifa terrorist sexual deviant school. 0.96

00:34:44.500 You know, we just have choice, right?

00:34:46.640 No.

00:34:47.780 I would object to that.

00:34:48.820 You would object to that, too.

00:34:51.180 Now, I guess, really, the trans, furry, Antifa school, we just call that public school these days. 0.99

00:34:55.120 But still, in principle, we would say, no, no, no, it shouldn't be just a free-for-all.

00:34:59.140 There have to be some standards, even just for accreditation, even just to figure out what kinds of schools would qualify for the coupons.

00:35:06.760 Even for homeschool pods, there are going to be some regulations.

00:35:10.040 But then that brings us all the way back to say, okay, well, if we're insisting upon certain standards and certain regulations

00:35:14.380 and certain criteria to qualify for public dollars in any way, whether through coupons or direct funding,

00:35:21.800 well, then, aren't we just back to public school?

00:35:24.640 Isn't that just what public school is?

00:35:26.740 Aren't we back, that is to say, to the real battle that the left has engaged in, that the right has run from?

00:35:33.420 Namely, we should not concede the public schools to the left.

00:35:37.540 We should go in and assert our right to form those curricula and to set those standards.

00:35:45.360 The mistake that we made in the middle of the 20th century was conceding the big institutions to the left,

00:35:50.640 saying, no, whatever, we're going to privatize everything, go over to our own little ghettos.

00:35:54.100 No, no, no.

00:35:54.640 What if we just keep up the fight?

00:35:56.940 Good.

00:35:57.360 Let's get our school choice for now.

00:35:58.740 Let's get our bearing.

00:35:59.700 Let's be on solid ground.

00:36:01.620 But then let's go back.

00:36:02.700 Let's take those public schools back. 1.00

00:36:04.700 Let's kick the nonsense out of the classrooms.

00:36:06.680 Let's ban the left-wing, crazy ideologies from the classrooms. 0.97

00:36:09.900 Let's bring back normal, important aspects of education, like the Bible, for instance,

00:36:15.720 which was kicked out in the middle of the 20th century.

00:36:17.280 It's not possible to be an educated person without learning about the Bible.

00:36:21.020 Let's bring that back in.

00:36:22.660 Let's bring some normality back into the classroom.

00:36:25.080 Let's kick the crazy books out of it.

00:36:26.880 Let's really engage in that fight.

00:36:28.540 You know, I understand this lawyer sounds totally out of touch,

00:36:31.080 but he's raising a good point that conservatives need to take very, very seriously.

00:36:36.720 You know, if you were with us for election night or for the inauguration,

00:36:39.560 you know Daily Wire doesn't just show up.

00:36:42.560 We take over.

00:36:43.800 And we plan to do just that this week at CPAC.

00:36:46.560 Join me, along with Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Andrew Klavan, Jeremy Boring,

00:36:50.260 live Thursday night, February 20th, streaming on Daily Wire Plus.

00:36:55.460 Because we will be speaking.

00:36:56.780 I'm going to be giving a speech, regular old main stage speech.

00:37:00.320 Ben is giving a speech.

00:37:01.180 I think Matt is giving a speech.

00:37:03.120 He's a little curmudgeonly, but I think they managed to drag him out.

00:37:05.780 But then we're all going to be together for Daily Wire backstage later that night.

00:37:09.060 Don't just watch CPAC.

00:37:10.820 Be part of it.

00:37:11.580 We'll be taking your questions live Thursday night, February 20th, on Daily Wire Plus.

00:37:16.160 Plus, my favorite comment yesterday is from Willhofftaken8543, who says,

00:37:23.520 I'm from Germany, and your show is a more important news source to me than our state media.

00:37:27.700 Thank you for your work, Michael.

00:37:28.660 I appreciate that.

00:37:30.280 Love Germany.

00:37:31.520 Love Europe.

00:37:32.260 And I know we have a lot of listeners and viewers throughout Europe.

00:37:35.940 And in fact, when I was in Hungary a year or two ago,

00:37:38.540 I ran into one of the viewers from Germany,

00:37:42.380 a nice young lad who brought me a delicious cigar from Italy.

00:37:45.960 And so I know it's tough out there,

00:37:47.780 and it's very difficult to find conservative news sources in Europe

00:37:52.000 because of all the issues that J.D. Vance was raising at the Munich Security Conference,

00:37:56.080 namely that the right is suppressed by the governments in Europe.

00:37:59.760 And Trump's coming out and saying, you know, look, we got a new sheriff in town.

00:38:02.920 We're not going to tolerate that.

00:38:04.000 We're certainly not going to underrate that.

00:38:05.420 So I'm glad that many of you are tuning in here to the Michael Knowles show and to the Daily Wire.

00:38:10.880 That's great.

00:38:11.640 And hopefully in Europe, there are going to be some more sources that are cropping up soon.

00:38:15.300 But keep tuning in to my show anyway.

00:38:18.300 Now, speaking of controversial legislation, this is a doozy.

00:38:23.000 This is a real, a real weird doozy.

00:38:27.580 Some Ohio legislators are proposing a law that would ban all intercourse

00:38:35.880 that is not intended to create a baby, with some exceptions.

00:38:42.840 And that's where, actually, this legislation starts to fall about, in their own words.

00:38:48.180 Sponsored by Democratic state representatives Anita Somani and OBGYN from Dublin and Tristan Rader of Lakewood.

00:38:56.260 The whole entire point of this bill is to call out the hypocrisy of particularly the state legislature

00:39:01.620 when they bring forward bills to regulate women's bodies. 0.98

00:39:04.540 Now, there are exceptions to the proposed law, which include sperm donation, contraception, and members of the LGBTQ community. 0.95

00:39:12.480 Men face a maximum $10,000 fine after the third offense if they have sex with a woman without the intention of conceiving a child.

00:39:20.680 Okay, how can you get it?

00:39:24.080 Even the lawmaker, these ridiculous liberals behind this bill, they admit,

00:39:29.060 no, we're just trying to make a point on hypocrisy.

00:39:30.780 So they're not really trying to get this passed.

00:39:32.820 And they're right not to try to get this passed.

00:39:35.320 Not even because of the top line purpose of the law, but because of all of these exceptions.

00:39:40.280 They say, you men, you're trying to stop women from murdering their children.

00:39:45.820 Oh, yeah, you hypocrites.

00:39:47.640 Well, we're going to stop you from sleeping with ladies if you don't intend to have a baby. 1.00

00:39:56.660 How do you like that?

00:39:58.900 Life, I think they're calling it the life begins at erection law.

00:40:02.680 Or so conception begins at erection act.

00:40:04.400 Oh, that's so, except they don't really mean that.

00:40:06.080 Because you just heard the three exceptions.

00:40:07.680 They said, well, the people who are going to be exempt from the $10,000 fines are

00:40:12.080 sperm donors, members of the LGBT community. 0.88

00:40:20.000 And what was the third one?

00:40:22.700 Oh, people who do things alone.

00:40:27.680 You know, what Woody Allen called sex with someone you love.

00:40:29.720 This is a family show, so I have to speak in euphemisms.

00:40:31.480 In other words, the bill specifically targets heterosexual couples who are not intending,

00:40:40.020 how do you even capture intent in the law?

00:40:42.580 It's very difficult to conceive a child.

00:40:45.200 But they exempt, they specifically protect homosexuals, wankers, and people who are selling 1.00

00:40:52.140 their children for profit.

00:40:53.980 That's another, this euphemism, sperm donation.

00:40:56.580 Well, look, sometimes they donate it.

00:40:58.160 Sometimes it's free.

00:41:00.100 I don't know, they just have a kink or something. 0.98

00:41:02.100 But sometimes they actually receive payment for this supposed donation, which is selling

00:41:09.480 your children.

00:41:10.440 It's selling your future children.

00:41:11.680 It's obviously, the sperm is not children.

00:41:13.780 But that sperm is used by disreputable and unethical scientists to create children with

00:41:20.900 the intent of depriving them of one of their natural parents.

00:41:23.120 So you're just selling your kids for like a hundred bucks a shot.

00:41:29.280 So people who are engaging in very sus behaviors, they're the ones who are exempted.

00:41:36.900 So then the law is really, truly just discriminating against normal heterosexual people.

00:41:44.200 Not good.

00:41:45.380 Not good.

00:41:45.840 Doesn't make, doesn't even prove the point that they're trying to make.

00:41:48.600 Because frankly, look, I would oppose this bill generally because I, following St. Thomas

00:41:53.860 Aquinas, believe that we should not ban everything that is a vice or that is sinful.

00:41:58.980 Because people just are at different levels of virtue in society.

00:42:04.540 Not everyone is a walking saint, okay?

00:42:07.200 And we can't expect that of people because if you hold society to far too high a standard,

00:42:11.760 it could crack.

00:42:12.760 This is one of the arguments against prohibiting prostitution in all cases, is that society might

00:42:18.460 become so convulsed by lust because the many people in the society are already living in

00:42:23.880 a habit of vice.

00:42:25.120 And so you have to draw people toward virtue in a way that is gradual and sustainable.

00:42:29.920 You have to kind of meet people where they are.

00:42:31.180 So I would oppose this legislation generally.

00:42:33.660 But in an ideal world, if you told me we were going to ban all kinds of weird sex stuff

00:42:39.820 and just have good normal sex stuff that would lead to people having big flourishing families

00:42:44.920 and everything, I'd be all for it in principle in an ideal world.

00:42:48.200 But not with these exceptions.

00:42:51.240 You're totally giving up the game here, man.

00:42:54.160 What a bunch of wankers.

00:42:56.120 Literally, that's what they're protecting here.

00:42:58.100 Yeah, not, the Ohio Democrats are not sending their best.

00:43:01.840 Now, speaking of sexual politics, the United States Army has announced it will no longer hire

00:43:07.580 self-identified transgenders.

00:43:10.880 This is the Army's words.

00:43:13.460 They posted this to Acts.

00:43:14.380 The U.S. Army will no longer allow transgender individuals to join the military and will stop

00:43:18.420 performing or facilitating procedures associated with gender transition for service members.

00:43:23.180 Stay tuned for more details.

00:43:24.500 If you're frustrated with your taxpayer dollars transing monkeys, imagine how frustrated one 1.00

00:43:34.080 should be that your taxpayer dollars are transing the troops.

00:43:37.780 I don't want to spend my money on that.

00:43:39.040 That's insane.

00:43:39.660 That doesn't help military fitness or readiness.

00:43:41.660 It's not good for anybody.

00:43:43.540 The monkeys, whatever, you know, you write it off as a medical experiment.

00:43:46.360 But this is insane.

00:43:48.840 Obviously, a step in the right direction for the U.S. Army.

00:43:53.000 They're not saying we're going to ban all the trans-identifying people just yet.

00:43:56.140 They're saying we're going to stop hiring them.

00:43:59.240 And then we'll see if there's another shoe to drop here.

00:44:01.760 When the left loses its mind over this, just remember, trans-identifying people were banned

00:44:09.260 from military service, full stop, until June of 2016.

00:44:15.040 That is, Barack Obama got elected in 2008.

00:44:20.600 Even Barack Obama, one of the most progressive left-wing presidents we've ever had, in 2009,

00:44:27.500 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, and half of the final, the eighth year of his presidency,

00:44:35.520 was fully on board with banning trans-identifying people from the military.

00:44:40.680 Of course, they are not mentally fit to be in the military.

00:44:47.400 They don't understand the basics of their own identity or reality.

00:44:51.940 That is not going to be great for military readiness.

00:44:55.120 To say nothing of the physical debilitations that they intentionally give themselves on your

00:45:00.120 taxpayer dime.

00:45:01.040 This is no knock on anybody.

00:45:03.820 I hope they get the psychological and spiritual help that they need.

00:45:06.260 But they do not belong in the military.

00:45:09.440 And this is going to be, this is, mark my words, this is going to be portrayed as

00:45:13.980 shocking, extreme, the rise of fascism, authoritarianism.

00:45:18.920 Barack Obama, in the final year of his presidency, presided over a military that banned trans-identifying

00:45:27.180 people from it.

00:45:27.860 This is just a restoration of normal, which is the description, it's probably the best

00:45:35.140 description you have of the vast majority of what President Trump has done so far.

00:45:40.260 There's a shocking headline, speaking of men and women.

00:45:42.480 I don't have time to get to it today.

00:45:43.880 But a shocking headline.

00:45:47.300 Washington Post.

00:45:48.520 Men may be more romantic than women, experts say.

00:45:52.680 We'll get to that shocking intuition, I guess, tomorrow.

00:45:56.000 We don't have time right now.

00:45:57.200 No member block.

00:45:58.440 The studio is shut down today because of three little snowflakes.

00:46:05.860 I don't know.

00:46:06.560 They're very cautious.

00:46:08.640 They're afraid for the staff.

00:46:10.100 They don't want the staff to crash their cars.

00:46:12.440 For me, I'd send them out on the icy roads.

00:46:14.020 I don't care.

00:46:14.460 I want that show in studio every day.

00:46:16.120 I want to talk to the beautiful member of Segmentum, the Chem Lulachem, through my iPad.

00:46:20.380 But I've been stymied for today.

00:46:23.040 Let's hope we have better luck tomorrow.

00:46:24.500 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:46:25.100 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:46:25.880 See you then.

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 19, 2025

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