The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1683 - Phase 1 Epstein Files EXPLAINED in 5 Minutes

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00:00:37.740 Six years after Jeffrey Epstein's death and 20 years after his first arrest,

00:00:42.600 we finally have the first batch of declassified files on the most notorious sex ring in American history.

00:00:50.840 And still, almost no one is asking the only question that really matters.

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00:02:53.660 The Epstein files are out.

00:02:55.820 I have in my hand a binder.

00:02:59.280 Yep, the Epstein files have been released.

00:03:01.000 In phase one, there will be multiple phases.

00:03:03.340 What information is in them?

00:03:05.080 One little tidbit of news that some people didn't know, though I think many people might have deduced, is that there were a lot of victims.

00:03:11.940 There were some 250-plus victims of the Epstein sex ring.

00:03:16.360 Some people will find that number a little surprising.

00:03:19.160 I don't know, maybe they thought it was 50 victims or 100 victims.

00:03:21.840 I figured there'd be a lot of victims.

00:03:23.300 We're talking about a major sex ring with extremely famous, influential people all over the world with an island.

00:03:31.140 They had their own island in the Caribbean, so even that number doesn't really surprise me.

00:03:36.040 It's great that the Trump administration is declassifying this.

00:03:39.120 He ended up declassifying it by giving the files to conservative media figures rather than to establishment journalists like the Associated Press.

00:03:48.900 And so there, once again, you get a pummel to the establishment media and an exaltation of independent journalists, so all great stuff.

00:03:57.460 However, here's my big however.

00:04:02.720 We already know most of this stuff, don't we?

00:04:07.200 You know, I hate to throw water on this because a lot of people are so happy to see the release of these files.

00:04:11.820 There are many more files, not just held by the federal government, but even the Southern District of New York seems to be holding files away from the DOJ and the FBI.

00:04:18.460 So I think we already knew a lot of this, didn't we?

00:04:23.260 We know Epstein's crimes.

00:04:24.760 Is anyone confused about Epstein's crimes?

00:04:26.620 I'm not.

00:04:27.420 I haven't been for years.

00:04:29.700 We already know many of the most prominent people associated with Epstein.

00:04:35.280 Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Les Wexner, Prince Andrew.

00:04:39.900 The list goes on and on.

00:04:41.340 We have pictures of them all together.

00:04:43.960 So I know some people are saying, well, I want people in prison.

00:04:46.960 All right, go arrest Bill Clinton.

00:04:48.820 We know who the prominent people are.

00:04:51.920 I'm sure there are many other people.

00:04:53.520 We can find, you know, the CEO of some Fortune 500 company maybe.

00:04:56.800 I don't know.

00:04:57.040 I'm sure there are a lot of people.

00:04:58.680 I guess what I'm saying is we know what Epstein did.

00:05:02.700 We know many of the most prominent people who were not only palling around with him.

00:05:06.780 The Libs sometimes try to tie Trump in with this because Epstein was a member of the Mar-a-Lago Club.

00:05:11.620 But the Libs, despite trying for years, have never been able to tie him to the airplane, to the island, to the sex ring, to none of it.

00:05:18.760 But we do know that Bill Clinton flew on that airplane quite a bit.

00:05:21.920 We do know that Bill Gates was palling around with him.

00:05:23.780 We know a lot of those figures.

00:05:24.780 So we even know the who.

00:05:26.960 As far as I am concerned, politically speaking, there is only one question that matters regarding Jeffrey Epstein.

00:05:34.060 And that is, what purpose did his operation serve?

00:05:40.540 That's the question.

00:05:42.040 You might say, well, as a matter of justice, I want to see people prosecuted.

00:05:45.800 Yeah, sure.

00:05:46.220 But you don't need to declassify any information for that.

00:05:49.020 Maybe it helps.

00:05:49.860 Maybe it doesn't.

00:05:50.920 But we want justice for the victims.

00:05:53.860 Okay, yeah, sure.

00:05:54.520 As a matter of justice, great.

00:05:55.640 You can pursue that with.

00:05:56.520 But politically speaking, there is only one question that matters.

00:06:02.780 What purpose did the Epstein operation serve?

00:06:06.840 Was it just so he could get his jollies off?

00:06:09.120 That doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:06:10.420 Why did he bring in all of these really rich and famous people?

00:06:13.180 Was it blackmail?

00:06:14.920 It seems like there was a healthy degree of blackmail in there.

00:06:17.220 Cameras all over the homes and the islands.

00:06:19.340 Sure.

00:06:21.700 Where did Jeffrey Epstein get all his money?

00:06:23.920 Was it just his money?

00:06:25.040 I guess it could have been.

00:06:25.700 But he's got a pretty weird biography, doesn't he?

00:06:28.360 Jeffrey Epstein did not graduate from college and then became a teacher at a very fancy prep school in New York, the Dalton School.

00:06:35.960 That's kind of weird.

00:06:36.660 How do you become a teacher at a really fancy prep school if you don't graduate college?

00:06:39.540 And then he went from the prep school to Bear Stearns, a major financial institution.

00:06:45.320 Rose up the ranks there.

00:06:46.220 Then he started his own financial firm.

00:06:48.420 And he bragged about having big clients.

00:06:50.780 But look, people can make money in private wealth management, sure.

00:06:54.160 But can they make that kind of money?

00:06:57.180 Can that guy make that kind of money in the honest business of private wealth management if everything's above board?

00:07:03.660 We're talking private Caribbean island money?

00:07:06.640 Color me a little skeptical.

00:07:08.100 What did Alex Acosta mean, Trump's Secretary of Labor, when he was interviewed for that job and he was asked about his time as U.S. attorney prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein?

00:07:19.940 And he says that he was told that Jeffrey Epstein belonged to intelligence.

00:07:25.920 What did he mean by that?

00:07:27.680 What intelligence?

00:07:28.500 Is it our intelligence, CIA?

00:07:31.940 Is it foreign intelligence?

00:07:33.220 Is it multiple intelligence outlets?

00:07:35.560 We know that Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's paramour and business partner, had ties to, well, her father had ties to Mossad, MI6, possibly the KGB.

00:07:46.940 Who was he working for?

00:07:52.640 What was the purpose of the operation?

00:07:54.920 It is possible, I guess, that Epstein was just working for himself.

00:07:58.840 And he made some money in finance.

00:08:00.980 And he just created this elaborate blackmail ring to enrich himself and to continue to engage in depraved sexual activities. 0.58

00:08:08.100 I guess that's possible.

00:08:09.620 What does that mean Epstein belongs to intelligence?

00:08:11.300 I want that answer.

00:08:13.420 That's what's interesting to me.

00:08:14.740 That signals a great deal more significant political corruption, politically relevant information, than finding out who the perps were.

00:08:23.080 Good, find the perps, prosecute the perps.

00:08:25.240 I'm all for it.

00:08:25.940 We already know a lot of the perps and they're not being prosecuted, but transparency wasn't the issue there.

00:08:30.180 We have the pictures of Epstein palling around with Prince Andrew and Bill Gates and Bill Clinton and all the rest of it.

00:08:37.020 Where's that?

00:08:39.260 Until that question is answered, I'm taking all the Epstein stuff with a grain of salt. 0.83

00:08:44.740 Because I think we're ignoring the most important question that there is politically in that case.

00:08:52.440 Now, moving on from Epstein, moving to pop culture.

00:08:58.080 Some really, really good news coming out of the pop culture.

00:09:01.060 Timothy Chalamet, the actor who played Bob Dylan in this new movie, he just won the Screen Actors Guild Award for that.

00:09:07.820 And no one watches these award shows anymore.

00:09:10.200 Virtually all of the speeches are terrible.

00:09:12.360 People generally hate Hollywood now.

00:09:14.140 They're tuning out the movies.

00:09:15.400 They're tuning out TV.

00:09:16.900 But this was a bright spot.

00:09:18.940 This was a sign of hope.

00:09:20.700 This is Timothy Chalamet's acceptance speech.

00:09:24.220 I know the classiest thing would be to downplay the effort that went into this role and how much this means to me.

00:09:33.840 But the truth is, this was five and a half years of my life.

00:09:36.780 I poured everything I had into playing this incomparable artist, Mr. Bob Dylan.

00:09:40.740 And I know we're in a subjective business, but the truth is, I'm really in pursuit of greatness.

00:09:50.980 I know people don't usually talk like that, but I want to be one of the greats.

00:09:53.900 I'm inspired by the greats.

00:09:55.040 I'm inspired by the greats here tonight.

00:09:56.460 I'm as inspired by Daniel Day-Lewis and Marlon Brando and Viola Davis as I am by Michael Jordan and Michael Phelps.

00:10:03.180 And I want to be up there.

00:10:04.240 So I'm deeply grateful to that.

00:10:05.840 This doesn't signify that, but it's a little more fuel.

00:10:08.320 It's a little more ammo to keep going.

00:10:09.540 Thank you so much.

00:10:10.040 This is the golden age of America aura.

00:10:16.020 That's what this is.

00:10:17.060 I love that.

00:10:17.660 There's even humility at the end.

00:10:18.820 He says, look, thank you for this award.

00:10:21.140 I want to be great.

00:10:22.580 I want to be great.

00:10:23.960 And this award doesn't make me great, and I'm not great yet.

00:10:27.400 But this is giving me fuel.

00:10:29.280 This is a step along the way, and I want to be greater.

00:10:31.640 I want to be really great.

00:10:33.900 That word great, where did that word great come from in the popular consciousness in the last decade or so?

00:10:39.520 Oh, did it maybe come from Trump?

00:10:42.320 Make America great again.

00:10:44.020 We hadn't really heard at the presidential level about a platform for American greatness in my lifetime, really.

00:10:52.520 We heard about American stasis.

00:10:54.480 We heard about managing the global empire.

00:10:56.240 We heard about the world is flat.

00:10:57.580 We heard about the end of history.

00:10:59.060 But Trump brings with him a new focus on greatness, and that is now seeping throughout the whole culture.

00:11:06.480 And it didn't quite hit in 2016 and didn't hit in 2020 because there were all these questions about Trump and all these corrupt attacks to take him down and this denial that his views were mainstream.

00:11:17.540 2024, though, popular vote, big win.

00:11:20.300 Now we can talk about it.

00:11:21.640 Now it's been percolating for a little bit of time.

00:11:25.320 Greatness.

00:11:25.800 I want to be great, kid.

00:11:28.140 That reminds me of one of the best movies of the last 25 years, Hail Caesar, about the movie industry, when the villain is George Clooney and Herbert Marcuse, the father of the new left.

00:11:38.860 And the heroes are the American industrialists, studio heads, capitalists, conservatives, Republicans, priests, the faithful.

00:11:49.660 And in one of the great climactic scenes, the studio head grabs George Clooney, playing himself, smacks him across the face.

00:11:58.660 He says, hey, you go out there and you'd be great.

00:12:01.140 You go be a star.

00:12:02.800 This is beautiful stuff.

00:12:05.460 What does it mean for the culture?

00:12:06.760 It means that the hallmarks of the millennials, of the Obama era, of the past 10, 20 years, the millennial cynicism and irony, that is dead.

00:12:21.520 Vocal fry, glottal fry, that's the way that millennials talked. 1.00

00:12:25.220 That's the late 2000s, early 20-teens, you know, people just kind of talk like this, like that hipster, like I don't really care.

00:12:31.420 You know, I'm just totally indifferent to anything.

00:12:33.560 You know, it's like whatever, man.

00:12:34.920 That thing, gone.

00:12:37.720 That is being replaced.

00:12:40.920 Millennial irony and cynicism are being replaced by Zoomer earnestness and sincerity.

00:12:47.300 Earnestness and sincerity are back.

00:12:49.540 I am totally here for it.

00:12:51.560 This is strong stuff.

00:12:53.660 This is good stuff.

00:12:54.980 This is reflected at the political level.

00:12:57.160 It's in the popular culture.

00:12:58.680 It is a generational shift, and it is one for the better. 0.95

00:13:02.460 And conservatives, myself included, we always talk about everything's getting worse, and we're all going to hell in a handbasket, and the West has fallen, and all of that, and that's often true. 0.86

00:13:10.820 But this is an improvement, and I am here for it.

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00:14:33.240 Speaking of film stars, Michael Moore, big lib documentarian, just, he made an argument that in his head sounded so good

00:14:43.080 to take down the conservatives and to take down Trump and specifically to target the mass deportations that most voters voted for.

00:14:49.260 And it sounded so good in his head, and he unfortunately undermined his entire political side of the aisle.

00:14:57.460 He said, this was in a Substack post, who's really being removed by ICE tonight?

00:15:03.320 The child who would have discovered the cure for cancer in 2046.

00:15:09.440 The ninth grade nerd who would have stopped that asteroid, Michael Moore misspelled asteroid,

00:15:14.540 would have stopped that asteroid that's going to hit us in 2032.

00:15:19.120 First of all, I'm not sure that the 45-year-old face-tattooed Satan-worshipping MS-13 gangsters

00:15:25.320 are really on the brink of the cure for cancer.

00:15:28.940 You know, color me skeptical.

00:15:30.740 That's what he says, that's who's being deported.

00:15:34.440 We get nothing from that Syrian Muslim who sired a junior Abdul Fattah, 1.00

00:15:38.900 a nothing migrant with a nothing out of wedlock baby, 0.97

00:15:41.780 except that nothing baby was soon adopted and given an American name, Steve Jobs.

00:15:46.620 Yes, that's Steve Jobs.

00:15:47.860 I'm grateful for that Muslim migrant baby being born here 70 years ago today,

00:15:51.400 because if he hadn't, it's possible we would have none of his inventions.

00:15:55.200 This little story, I hope, will give pause to any bigot who constantly rails against the danger we're all in

00:16:02.800 because of these filthy low-life aliens. 0.95

00:16:04.780 Okay, I really like that little story he just told, 0.93

00:16:08.400 because that little story he just told undermined the central sacrament of his side of the aisle.

00:16:16.540 How many people did President Trump deport in his first month?

00:16:19.000 37,660, according to Reuters.

00:16:23.560 So, if you extrapolate that out one month to 12 months,

00:16:26.760 now hopefully Tom Homan and the Trump admin ramp up the deportations as they get their sea legs,

00:16:31.080 but if you just extrapolate that out month over month,

00:16:34.260 that's 451,920 people in a year to be deported.

00:16:39.120 Let's say they ramp it up and it's a little higher, 500,000, 600,000.

00:16:43.460 1.2 million babies are aborted per year.

00:16:50.180 1.2 million babies.

00:16:51.840 So, you're so concerned.

00:16:53.380 Oh, no, we're going to lose the person who cures cancer.

00:16:57.240 We're going to lose the person who stops that asteroid.

00:16:59.740 We're going to lose the person who invents Apple.

00:17:03.480 Hold on a second.

00:17:05.980 How did we get Steve Jobs an Apple?

00:17:07.980 Is that a story of migration?

00:17:09.200 No, that's a story of a baby who was not planned and not wanted to be raised by his parents,

00:17:18.060 whose parents decided to give him up for adoption.

00:17:23.420 Instead of doing what the left insists they do, which is murder the baby in the womb,

00:17:28.420 his parents made the much better choice to give him up for adoption.

00:17:32.640 The Steve Jobs story is not an immigrant story.

00:17:35.120 It's an abortion story. 0.72

00:17:36.420 It's a pro-life story.

00:17:37.600 It's just amazing.

00:17:41.840 The arguments, the real pertinent arguments over whether or not to deport illegal aliens

00:17:46.420 are, I think, much deeper than just Michael Moore's instrumentalist, consequentialist view of,

00:17:53.320 you know, well, hey, one of those migrants might cure cancer. 1.00

00:17:55.520 But if you're just playing a numbers game here like Michael Moore wants to do,

00:17:58.280 you have a much better chance of curing cancer and stopping the asteroid and inventing Apple.

00:18:03.360 Literally, in this case, we know the guy who invented Apple was saved because his parents

00:18:08.240 didn't choose abortion.

00:18:09.220 You have a much better chance by just not murdering the babies through abortion than you do by stopping 1.00

00:18:16.160 the deportation of despicable, murderous, rapist, face-tattooed gangsters from Mexico and Venezuela 1.00

00:18:23.100 and other Latin American countries. 0.99

00:18:26.320 Crazy that this guy could write that story out, write out this beautiful pro-life parable,

00:18:32.620 and then think he's making a point in favor of the left.

00:18:36.720 Beautiful stuff.

00:18:38.520 Michael Moore, hoisted by his own petard.

00:18:41.620 Difficult thing to do, but he was hoisted.

00:18:44.660 Hoisted with his own rhetorical petard.

00:18:46.480 I think a lot of the left is like that now.

00:18:49.300 But good stuff.

00:18:49.780 I love it.

00:18:50.320 Send that substack around. 0.94

00:18:51.660 Let's go.

00:18:52.080 Good argument against abortion. 0.97

00:18:53.480 Now, speaking of morality, Pew Research has some encouraging news.

00:18:58.300 Is this the good news day?

00:18:59.380 We're getting a little more transparency in government.

00:19:01.520 We're getting good moves in the pop culture.

00:19:03.700 And Pew Research says that the decline in Christianity in the United States is leveling off.

00:19:10.800 Pew Religious Landscape study showed 62% of poll respondents identify as Christian,

00:19:19.240 while 29% are religiously unaffiliated.

00:19:22.400 So that number is still too low.

00:19:23.400 62% Christian.

00:19:24.480 Okay.

00:19:25.560 UPI reports that Pew said in an executive summary that, quote,

00:19:30.200 the Christian share of the population after years of decline has been relatively stable since 2019.

00:19:38.000 Might even be growing a little bit.

00:19:40.800 This is golden age aura.

00:19:43.460 And it ties in with what we're talking about with Timothee Chalamet.

00:19:46.060 Because much of that millennial, it's not just the millennials, but it was that era,

00:19:51.540 you know, the 2000s, early 20-teens, that era of just like kind of hipster apathy.

00:19:57.980 And, you know, irony and cynicism.

00:19:59.740 And I don't care.

00:20:00.480 I'm blasé.

00:20:01.200 I'm nonchalant.

00:20:01.900 I'm above it all.

00:20:02.720 You know, I don't even care.

00:20:03.540 I don't even care enough to put breath behind my voice.

00:20:07.080 You know, this was the vocal tick of that era.

00:20:08.800 This kind of, they just kind of talk like this and their throat kind of just like it scratches

00:20:12.120 together.

00:20:12.900 It's like a voluntary Bobby Kennedy.

00:20:15.120 Bobby Kennedy has a medical condition.

00:20:17.380 These guys don't have any excuse.

00:20:18.840 They just kind of, they just don't care.

00:20:20.100 They're just like, yeah, whatever, man, whatever.

00:20:22.360 That's done.

00:20:23.500 People are now enthusiastic.

00:20:24.900 They're taking things seriously.

00:20:25.940 They're taking themselves seriously.

00:20:27.240 They're speaking from their chest, supported by their voice, just saying, I want to be great.

00:20:32.180 I don't want to be mediocre.

00:20:33.340 I don't want to just be nothing, you know?

00:20:36.320 I remember to really highlight what that era and that culture was like.

00:20:40.200 I remember I was in an Apple store in Grand Central in, I don't know, 2012 or something.

00:20:45.180 And the hipster employee there, a nice enough guy.

00:20:47.780 But he had two tattoos on his fingers.

00:20:50.560 One was a little mustache on his finger.

00:20:52.080 And the other said, S-H-I-T, Cray.

00:20:55.820 S-H-I-T, Cray.

00:20:58.100 It's this nihilistic, almost Dadaist kind of mutilation of his body.

00:21:04.300 Say, yeah, whatever.

00:21:05.400 It's all nothing.

00:21:05.800 Nothing means anything.

00:21:06.900 It's all kind of pointless.

00:21:07.780 Yeah, whatever, man.

00:21:08.440 That was the aura of that era.

00:21:12.120 And that's the era of agnosticism or even the new atheism.

00:21:17.760 That's the era of subjectivism, of, you know, who cares?

00:21:22.960 We're all just kind of meat sacks and, you know, nothing makes any sense.

00:21:26.220 It's all absurd.

00:21:27.400 Do whatever you want.

00:21:28.340 If it feels good, do it, whatever.

00:21:31.280 Make America great again.

00:21:33.520 I want to be great.

00:21:35.160 I want to do things.

00:21:36.340 I want to achieve things.

00:21:37.720 That era cannot be one of indifference.

00:21:40.780 You can't indifferently be great.

00:21:43.340 You got to believe something.

00:21:44.860 And you really want to be great?

00:21:45.840 Well, then you got to believe true things.

00:21:49.420 And you got to believe them down all the way to the core of what it means to be.

00:21:54.780 And that means Christianity is going to stop declining.

00:21:58.520 And I think if trends continue, it's going to be on the rise yet again.

00:22:03.200 Ever ancient, ever new.

00:22:04.680 Many tyrants thought they had beaten Christianity.

00:22:07.160 Not so much.

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00:23:30.780 My favorite comment yesterday is from Easy Lifestyles.

00:23:33.100 It says,

00:23:33.480 Vivek needs to change the name back to the Cleveland Indians.

00:23:36.620 I don't care what kind.

00:23:38.500 Just do it for America.

00:23:39.620 For America!

00:23:41.080 Okay, it can be the Cherokee.

00:23:42.560 It can be the Choctaw.

00:23:43.540 It can even be the Comanche.

00:23:44.740 I don't care.

00:23:45.120 You're right.

00:23:46.460 And I actually, I still call them the Cleveland Indians.

00:23:49.760 I teach my children to call them the Cleveland Indians.

00:23:53.280 Indians fans call them the Cleveland Indians.

00:23:55.920 It's true.

00:23:56.400 Technically, the baseball team from Ohio is known as the Cleveland Guardians.

00:24:02.180 Nobody calls them that other than the MLB color commentators because they have to

00:24:06.340 because the league makes them.

00:24:07.380 But they're the Indians. 0.89

00:24:08.640 I agree.

00:24:09.740 Vivek is already going to win.

00:24:10.840 I mean, I think he is so far ahead of the pack in that race.

00:24:14.260 In terms of name recognition, support, money, endorsements.

00:24:18.080 I think it's his if he wants it.

00:24:20.400 But if he came out and he said, hey, by the way, it's the Cleveland Indians again.

00:24:23.820 I, a different kind of Indian, am telling you that we're going to, we got the Indians back.

00:24:28.900 It's an Indian Ohio November. 0.99

00:24:31.140 That, he would win 150% of the vote.

00:24:34.380 He's already going to, you know, he's going to get 70 or something now.

00:24:36.520 But he's going to get 150.

00:24:37.780 Okay, speaking of Christianity, George Janko, a popular YouTuber, has just created a major

00:24:46.740 controversy because he, a video of his went viral in which he mocked the Eucharist, the

00:24:54.000 blessed sacrament, the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

00:24:57.880 Here's what he had to say.

00:24:58.720 I don't look at things that are dirt and put it to the holiness of God.

00:25:04.460 I can never do that.

00:25:05.720 When they take the Eucharist or when they take this and they truly believe that it is actually 0.81

00:25:10.160 his body and his blood.

00:25:11.740 To me, that's, it's a big no-no.

00:25:14.920 So they believe that it is actually his body.

00:25:17.080 I think it's called trans obsession.

00:25:18.420 Yes.

00:25:19.200 To me, it's like, isn't that, isn't that blasphemy?

00:25:22.760 Isn't that like idolatry at a whole different level when you're worshiping something?

00:25:26.260 We're just taking dirt and worshiping it as if it's our presence of God.

00:25:30.220 And I just, I can't wrap my head around that.

00:25:32.840 I can't wrap my head that like if the piece of bread falls to the ground, legitimately hell

00:25:37.000 breaks loose in that church and they bow and pick it up with their mouth and they treat

00:25:41.080 it like it is actually my God that's in that bread.

00:25:44.020 I can't get behind that.

00:25:45.200 I think little movements like this could set a trajectory to move a man away from God.

00:25:51.020 That's why I like, I fight for it so hard.

00:25:53.080 It's because I truly have brothers and sisters that sat with me in the pew, but they no longer

00:25:58.120 see God as God anymore because they weren't nourished the way they should have been nourished.

00:26:02.220 They were taught to fear the wrong things and to practice the wrong things.

00:26:07.620 Okay.

00:26:08.280 So what George Janko is, he's Protestant, obviously. 0.91

00:26:10.880 What he's saying here is blasphemous and it is theologically ignorant and it is contrary 0.84

00:26:17.960 to sacred scripture.

00:26:19.380 All of those things are true.

00:26:20.940 Completely indefensible, what he said.

00:26:23.420 And we'll get into why he's so powerfully wrong about this issue.

00:26:27.800 But I have to point out that George Janko, even with these unfortunate comments, deeply wrong

00:26:40.240 comments, is taking Eucharistic theology more seriously than 69% of American Catholics.

00:26:48.620 That's a shocking number.

00:26:50.180 But this comes also, I think, from Pew Research.

00:26:52.840 This survey came out just some years ago now.

00:26:57.000 Pretty recent, 2019, I want to say.

00:26:59.480 Just one-third of U.S. Catholics believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Jesus

00:27:05.320 Christ.

00:27:06.840 69%, nearly 7 in 10 Catholics, say they personally believe that during Catholic Mass, the bread and

00:27:14.800 wine used in communion are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

00:27:18.700 Just one-third of U.S. Catholics, 31%, say they believe that, quote, during Mass, the bread

00:27:23.740 and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus.

00:27:27.060 So this is a non-negotiable teaching of the church, certainly dogmatic, that the Eucharist

00:27:33.640 is the Eucharist, the body, blood, soul, and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ.

00:27:37.860 Just one-third, less than one-third believe that.

00:27:41.760 So in a way, you have to say, well, at least George Janko is taking Eucharistic theology

00:27:46.440 seriously, though he's saying things about it that are false and very offensive.

00:27:51.200 What is he saying?

00:27:51.880 He says it's dirt.

00:27:52.800 He compares it to dirt.

00:27:53.880 Now, when he says it's dirt, he can't mean even an unconsecrated host that's literally

00:27:59.420 dirt, right?

00:28:00.160 It's a wafer.

00:28:01.480 It's bread.

00:28:02.280 When Janko says that the Eucharist is dirt, he's saying that it's stuff, right?

00:28:07.740 I don't think he thinks that the unconsecrated host or the bread is like literally dirt.

00:28:12.080 So he's saying it's stuff.

00:28:12.740 And he's saying that it's wrong to deal with stuff or to treat stuff as holy.

00:28:19.100 But of course, this seems to be undermined by the incarnation, the central fact of Christianity.

00:28:25.320 When our Lord, who is God, also becomes flesh and dwells among us as a human nature and a

00:28:31.400 divine nature, we read in the Gospels of a person in an act of faith touching the hem of

00:28:39.120 our Lord's garment to be healed, to be saved.

00:28:43.880 Why is there this physical aspect?

00:28:45.740 Why does our Lord spit in the dirt and give the blind sight, restore sight to the blind

00:28:50.620 with stuff?

00:28:51.860 Why does he become incarnate?

00:28:54.420 Because stuff matters.

00:28:55.880 That's why.

00:28:57.520 Why does our Lord give us sacraments?

00:29:01.020 He says, you know, Catholics believe this is actually his body.

00:29:03.980 Yes.

00:29:04.780 And this is scriptural.

00:29:05.740 This comes from John chapter six, when our Lord says, whoever does not eat the flesh of

00:29:11.020 the son of man and drink his blood has no life in him.

00:29:14.120 And this was as shocking a statement then as it is to some people now.

00:29:17.720 And the Jews who hear this dispute among themselves and many disciples go away.

00:29:22.600 And our Lord says, my flesh is true food.

00:29:25.820 My blood is true drink.

00:29:27.160 And then we see at the last supper, when our Lord says, this is my body, which will be given

00:29:33.200 up for you.

00:29:34.200 This wine, this is my blood.

00:29:36.780 Do this in memory of me.

00:29:39.040 The institution of the Eucharist. 0.92

00:29:40.540 But the theology of the Eucharist is explained in John chapter six.

00:29:44.040 And so many go away.

00:29:45.100 And our Lord turns to St. Peter.

00:29:46.520 And St. Peter said, he says, you do not go away.

00:29:48.380 And he says, Lord, to whom shall we go?

00:29:49.460 You have the words of life.

00:29:51.080 So anyway, that's why Catholics believe that.

00:29:54.100 The notion that this would move a man away from God.

00:29:56.280 It's, I can imagine no better way to become close to God than to actually to receive our

00:30:03.220 Lord.

00:30:03.620 You know, when we eat ordinary food, the food becomes like us, breaks down and becomes part

00:30:07.400 of our body, the Eucharist, the heavenly bread is the food that makes us more like God, brings

00:30:15.060 us closer to God.

00:30:16.060 We in the mystical body of Christ.

00:30:17.660 That's the idea.

00:30:18.480 Because we're bodies too.

00:30:19.760 We're not just in modernity.

00:30:21.440 We think we're all just abstract ideas floating in outer space.

00:30:23.440 We're not.

00:30:24.420 We are bodies.

00:30:25.480 And so we pray and our bodies are involved in that, whether we're on our knees or whether

00:30:29.960 we're, you know, I don't know, scrolling on our phones or something.

00:30:32.660 We pray.

00:30:33.400 We communicate via images.

00:30:35.720 You can't ignore that.

00:30:36.460 Even if you close your eyes and try not to picture any images, not have any icons or

00:30:40.960 statues or anything, you're still going to make images in your head.

00:30:43.420 That's how we communicate.

00:30:45.680 It's a semiotic world.

00:30:47.400 So I think it moves you closer to God.

00:30:49.380 And George Shanko says, you know, they practice the wrong things.

00:30:51.900 I think those are the right things because the Eucharist is not some Catholic invention

00:30:57.060 from the Middle Ages or something like that.

00:30:58.580 We see evidence of the Eucharist from the various earliest days of the church, the first and

00:31:05.300 second centuries.

00:31:06.540 I mean, I think of the Didache, the first catechism.

00:31:10.180 We're dating back to within living memory of the resurrection.

00:31:14.940 The Didache, St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Irenaeus of Lyon, St. Justin Martyr.

00:31:19.760 St. Justin Martyr, I mean, I could quote all these guys and many, many others.

00:31:22.800 But St. Justin Martyr in the first apology, this is written around A.D. 150, says, quote,

00:31:28.580 we do not receive these as common bread or common drink, but just as Jesus Christ, our

00:31:32.260 Savior, having been made flesh by the word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation.

00:31:36.260 So likewise, the food which is blessed by the prayer of his word and from which our flesh

00:31:40.460 and blood by transmutation are nourished is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was

00:31:45.460 made flesh.

00:31:46.560 And you will see many, many other examples from the church fathers, again, it's scriptural

00:31:51.780 as well, and then throughout the ages of the doctors of the church.

00:31:56.200 So, you know, he's wrong.

00:31:59.040 He should correct his views.

00:32:00.420 His views are contrary to the Christian religion.

00:32:03.920 However, I'm not going to totally dogpile on him because he is at least engaging with

00:32:10.920 Eucharistic theology.

00:32:11.700 He's at least taking the theology seriously, which I'm sorry to say is more than can be

00:32:16.200 said of 69% of U.S. Catholics.

00:32:18.780 So maybe they need to take it more seriously, too.

00:32:21.160 And then we can all believe the right things and do the right things and, you know, be

00:32:24.900 together doing what our Lord commanded us to do.

00:32:27.500 Now, speaking of media figures, turning back to politics, Jake Tapper of CNN has a new book

00:32:33.340 out.

00:32:33.680 And this book is on the scandal of the cover up of Joe Biden's dementia.

00:32:39.860 It's called Original Sin.

00:32:40.880 So I guess that actually ties back into religion.

00:32:42.940 The subheader is President Biden's decline, its cover up and his disastrous choice to run

00:32:48.360 again, this decline and the cover up of the decline.

00:32:51.100 That's the real media scandal. 0.94

00:32:52.220 You know, I mean, what kind of incompetent, devious, lying journalists would cover up Joe 0.94

00:32:58.860 Biden's obvious decline? 0.87

00:33:00.740 How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like

00:33:06.460 that?

00:33:06.880 It's very clearly a cognitive decline.

00:33:09.500 That's what I'm referring to.

00:33:10.780 It makes me uncomfortable.

00:33:11.820 You have, you have no, I can't, this is so amazing.

00:33:15.620 It's so amazing to me that, that try and figure out an answer, a cognitive decline to Biden

00:33:20.300 embraces his stutter talking about it while Trump mocks it, exaggerates it, belittles

00:33:24.900 it.

00:33:25.120 He's sharp physically.

00:33:26.380 I mean, uh, mentally.

00:33:27.960 Yeah.

00:33:28.120 I think the question is physically, right?

00:33:29.960 Right.

00:33:30.180 Or so.

00:33:30.680 Right.

00:33:30.940 Right.

00:33:31.180 And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than him.

00:33:34.480 I mean, you have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness, ability to lead of those

00:33:39.160 supporting Biden.

00:33:40.060 You said, quote, shame on all of you, pretending everything is okay.

00:33:42.500 You're leading us and him into a disaster.

00:33:44.500 Do you worry that you damaged him at all?

00:33:46.660 I don't doubt that, that you got hugs and, and, and handshakes behind closed doors today.

00:33:50.900 And maybe even publicly some of them because they like you personally, but I've heard a

00:33:56.800 lot of really nasty stuff about you from your democratic colleagues.

00:33:59.880 I mean, just like, what is he thinking?

00:34:03.140 Exercise and narcissism.

00:34:04.600 I mean, false claims to the wall street journal about President Biden's mental fitness,

00:34:09.520 and acuity.

00:34:10.240 He's 81 and his memory, you know, it doesn't seem great.

00:34:13.800 It's not horrible, but I don't understand the.

00:34:16.580 No, it's not horrible.

00:34:17.900 And maybe he stumbles a little bit, you know, mentally he's all still there, you know, wait,

00:34:21.560 hold on.

00:34:21.820 It's kind of seems like Jake Tapper was covering up that decline and he wasn't the only one.

00:34:27.940 There were many other journalists, but it's, it's amazing.

00:34:30.120 I got to give a hat, hat tip here to a Tom Elliott for that super cut. 1.00

00:34:33.860 It goes on longer.

00:34:34.980 I just don't have time to play the whole thing.

00:34:37.340 I, I think Jake Tapper here, he's trying to shift that blame away from him himself and

00:34:44.100 his colleagues in the media from the Democrats.

00:34:46.680 So he says, it's the journalists, some of the journalists fault.

00:34:49.940 It's the white house staffers fault.

00:34:51.900 Anybody with eyes knew that Joe Biden had dementia.

00:34:54.360 You guys lied about it.

00:34:55.360 You didn't, it's not that the white house covered it up.

00:34:57.320 Everyone knew you could see it, but you guys lied about it.

00:35:00.060 And then he, and ultimately he tries to place blame on Biden himself, the disastrous decision

00:35:04.840 to run again.

00:35:06.380 There is no evidence that Joe Biden would have done worse than Kamala Harris did had he stayed

00:35:12.400 in the race, even after that first debate.

00:35:14.640 And in fact, I said it from the beginning and through the debate, I think Biden would have

00:35:18.800 done better.

00:35:19.120 I think Trump would have beaten Biden, but I think Biden would have done better than Kamala.

00:35:23.280 It's hard to do much worse than Kamala. 0.97

00:35:24.540 You lose the popular vote as a Democrat for the first time in 20 years, lose the sunbelt,

00:35:29.240 the rust belt, you lose everything basically.

00:35:32.380 This is an admission.

00:35:34.480 And the book itself is an admission from Jake Tapper, who's one of the most prominent people

00:35:38.300 in the liberal media, that the news media are fake.

00:35:43.580 Trump was right about that.

00:35:45.040 That's why it's right to give big explosive stories, not to those guys who are even admitting,

00:35:50.160 albeit implicitly, their own failures, incompetence, and deceit.

00:35:54.540 But to give it to independent journalists who care about the truth.

00:35:57.900 Now, it all goes down.

00:35:58.700 Tuesday night, 9 p.m. Eastern, President Trump addresses Congress, laying out his America

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00:36:35.160 Finally, finally, we arrive at my favorite time of the week when I get to hear from you

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00:36:46.700 Take it away.

00:36:47.060 Hi, Michael.

00:36:48.840 Regarding the messaging about Christian engagement in all aspects of society, and most specifically,

00:36:55.320 the differentiation between Christian nationalism and the average Christian citizen who wants

00:37:01.260 to exert their influence, is Christendom, starting with Constantine and Christian nationalism,

00:37:09.040 one and the same thing?

00:37:10.180 And how do we fight the progressive strategy to lump all Christians who are concerned and

00:37:16.380 active, but do not want to exclude other citizens from debate and influence in the

00:37:21.460 public forum into the Christian nationalist bucket?

00:37:26.160 It seems we need our understanding and messaging to be clear on this subject.

00:37:31.500 Good question.

00:37:32.900 No, Christendom and Christian nationalism are not synonymous.

00:37:36.480 Yes, Constantine is not a Christian nationalist because he's not a nationalist.

00:37:40.960 The distinguishing feature here is that nationalism comes much later, really in the 19th century.

00:37:47.240 That bubbles up a little bit before that.

00:37:49.220 And nationalism arises out of Christendom because Christendom used to have a religious unity and

00:37:56.840 then a multiplicity of kingdoms, a multiplicity of polities that were overlapping and different

00:38:02.500 feudal arrangements, but that were distinct and had distinct cultures.

00:38:05.940 Not exactly nation states like we think of them today, but they did have a shared religious

00:38:11.340 identity, albeit they had different cultural and ethnic identities.

00:38:14.880 That cracks at modernity.

00:38:18.300 And the Protestant Revolution is the clearest example of this because it cracks up the religious 0.99

00:38:22.880 scheme of what was Christendom.

00:38:25.320 And it establishes through the Peace of Augsburg and the Peace of Westphalia the notion

00:38:30.060 cuius regio eius religio, whose realm his religion.

00:38:35.220 So different kings, different proto-nation states could establish their own flavor of religion,

00:38:41.940 which would be Christian in some regard, but it would be different kinds.

00:38:46.260 So then you see a greater emphasis on nationalism.

00:38:48.940 And then, at least looking at Europe, the Christianity was mostly thrown out altogether over time.

00:38:55.120 And there was just a greater focus on the state and on nationalism.

00:38:57.520 You see fascism becomes a nationalistic ideology.

00:39:01.820 Then you have communism as an internationalist ideology.

00:39:04.800 And so that's what cracks it up.

00:39:07.760 So now Christian nationalism is the great enemy of the left. 0.84

00:39:12.280 And I say, well, you know, I support my nation.

00:39:14.140 I'm a patriot and I'm a Christian.

00:39:15.420 So you can call me a Christian nationalist if you want.

00:39:17.960 I just suppose I wouldn't identify that way because I'm a Christian imperialist.

00:39:22.060 Next question.

00:39:23.760 Hi, Michael.

00:39:24.280 It's Julie, a big fan of the show and a proud American.

00:39:27.520 I live in McDowell County, West Virginia, where on February 15th, we experienced extreme flooding.

00:39:34.200 Our rivers flood at 24 feet and we peaked at almost 31 feet, breaking the previous record by four feet.

00:39:40.420 In just a small amount of time, we received almost four inches of rain flooding many of our mountain towns, back hollow roads and homes.

00:39:46.680 We are already a very low-income area, and FEMA has not declared it a disaster yet, limiting our resources.

00:39:54.320 Just wanted to share our story, and we have been able to set up a call line here at our local armory, which is 888-929-4966, to be able to reach citizens that are stranded or need supplies, and also for those that would call in, be willing to help.

00:40:12.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:40:13.060 Love the show.

00:40:13.980 Sorry to hear about the troubles you had, but glad that we could publicize that a little bit.

00:40:18.340 For anyone in the administration who's tied to FEMA, it would be great if you could look into this problem, McDowell County, and try to help out.

00:40:25.080 So I certainly wish you luck, and we can pray for you, and hopefully get you some material resources too.

00:40:30.160 Next question.

00:40:30.700 Hi, Michael.

00:40:32.380 My husband has listened to your show every day since 2023, and I have overheard your show a lot over the last two years.

00:40:38.440 Good man. Good, strong husband.

00:40:38.940 Over the last eight months, our marriage has become hard to navigate at times, as he believes the Lord is calling him to lead our family to become Catholic.

00:40:45.680 He's been attending OCIA for a few months and plans to become confirmed, I think they call it, on Easter.

00:40:52.180 We were both raised Protestant, and I've never felt called to the Catholic Church, and still don't.

00:40:56.660 I have concerns and issues with practices and beliefs I've looked into and seen firsthand.

00:41:02.540 Family has been very vocal about how they feel about his steadfast pursuit of becoming Catholic, which makes this all the more hard.

00:41:09.620 Relationships aren't the same, and time together feels tainted by this.

00:41:13.200 Just curious how you would encourage a young godly woman to go about this situation. 0.96

00:41:17.620 This has been really shocking for me, and I haven't always done the best at honoring the Lord or my husband.

00:41:23.260 Thank you.

00:41:23.680 We had a lot of Catholic questions and topics today, which is fitting, I guess, because today is the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast.

00:41:31.060 So, providential, I suppose.

00:41:33.160 I'm sorry for the difficulties in your marriage, though it might turn out to be good in the long run.

00:41:38.020 You know my view of things.

00:41:39.360 I think it's good that your husband is feeling called that way, and I think it's true, and so that's all great.

00:41:44.320 But I totally sympathize with your issue, because you say, look, I didn't sign up for this.

00:41:49.360 Hold on, wait, you're moving the bedrock of our relationship here.

00:41:54.040 Hold on a second here.

00:41:54.800 I'm a little, I've got a lot of questions.

00:41:56.540 And this reminds me of St. John Henry Newman, who was Protestant, very anti-Catholic, and then he converted.

00:42:05.040 And he was, you know, the Oxford movement, one of the, probably the greatest English language theologian ever, and became a cardinal and then became a saint.

00:42:12.720 And he had a great line.

00:42:13.880 He said, 10,000 questions don't make one doubt.

00:42:17.000 You, a lay person, raised in a different religious tradition, you have all these questions about the Catholic Church.

00:42:24.340 Well, I've got news for you, lady.

00:42:26.560 I'm a cradle Catholic.

00:42:27.840 I fell away for 10 years, and I reverted about 10 years ago, and I've got a lot of questions, too.

00:42:31.980 And John Henry Newman would say, you know, I'm a cardinal, and I'm one of the greatest theologians ever to live, and I have questions, too.

00:42:37.860 That's actually one argument, I think, for the faith, is that it doesn't all just kind of fit in your tiny little head, you know, my tiny little head.

00:42:43.760 But 10,000 questions don't make one doubt.

00:42:48.360 So, I would encourage you, I mean, think about it this way.

00:42:50.720 If your husband, let's say you guys are Baptist or something, and your husband said, you know, I'm convinced to be Methodist.

00:42:56.220 I think Methodism, I think that's the true, you know, version of Christianity.

00:43:00.440 Would you feel more comfortable with that?

00:43:02.440 Maybe you would, because you'd say, well, it's still Protestant, but I don't know much about Methodist theology.

00:43:07.120 But maybe you'd feel a little more comfortable.

00:43:09.400 In that way, I would not call Catholicism a denomination.

00:43:12.980 I would call it, well, it's Catholic, it means universal, you know, it's the fundament of the, you know, the one true faith.

00:43:17.700 But if you view it a little bit like a denomination, maybe that can encourage you to ask those questions that you have.

00:43:24.480 And there are good resources for this.

00:43:25.880 Catholic Answers, you always just Google in, you know, this, whatever, praying to Mary or something, you know.

00:43:30.240 Why do Catholics do that? 1.00

00:43:31.320 Catholic Answers, and you get a good answer.

00:43:32.600 Or, I don't know, you can read some of the church fathers, who I think the more you read the church fathers, that's also what works for John Henry Newman.

00:43:39.960 The more open you might be to Catholicism.

00:43:44.460 I talked to your husband about it.

00:43:45.340 Be very honest, you know, because you're not obligated to convert.

00:43:48.780 It doesn't really work, you know, if you do it under duress.

00:43:52.280 You have to believe it.

00:43:53.460 But I would say honor your husband, you know, be open to it at least.

00:43:56.060 Recognize no one's forcing you, no one's putting a gun to your head.

00:44:00.420 He is the head of your household, so he might want to, you know, lead your household in that way.

00:44:05.700 But I would just say explore, you know, it's a wonderful thing.

00:44:08.940 In my experience, having reverted from atheism, and having, you know, really benefited from reading a lot of Protestants, and too, you know, I ended up coming to the same conclusion.

00:44:17.720 It sounds like your husband did.

00:44:18.820 But, you know, it's a nice process.

00:44:22.020 It's nice to be led along a journey of faith.

00:44:23.620 So, I would say just be open to it, and, you know, and be honest.

00:44:28.240 Bring your objections.

00:44:30.760 Either the church can withstand your objections, or the church isn't really the church.

00:44:35.520 So, don't be afraid of it.

00:44:37.240 Don't be afraid.

00:44:38.180 Next question.

00:44:39.600 Hi, Michael.

00:44:40.580 Over the weekend, I was watching your appearance on the Surrounded podcast and your subsequent breakdown of your experience on it.

00:44:47.640 And I didn't find myself getting enraged at the crazy transvestites and activists that engaged with you. 0.94

00:44:53.620 However, I was appalled when the individual who said that he works to get votes for the Republican Party harshly criticized you for your so-called extremist rhetoric.

00:45:03.720 This made me really frustrated because, one, I've always found you to be one of the most charitable figures on the right.

00:45:09.840 And, two, it seems despicable to suggest you stop advocating for conservative beliefs in an attempt to win votes for the party.

00:45:18.740 I was wondering if you think the same way or if you had any other thoughts on that specific interaction.

00:45:24.400 Thanks and appreciate all that you do.

00:45:26.760 Yeah, well, thank you for the compliment.

00:45:28.280 It's very kind.

00:45:29.260 This guy, for those of you who didn't catch the whole hour 40-minute debate fest on Jubilee, which you can go watch on the Jubilee YouTube channel.

00:45:36.100 This one guy, he might have been the most hostile, oddly enough, of any of them.

00:45:41.040 And he said that he's a Republican.

00:45:42.860 He said, I'm a Republican, Michael, and I watch some of your stuff and I like it.

00:45:46.320 But I hate you, actually, because you're just provocative needlessly.

00:45:52.360 And I said, I don't think I am.

00:45:53.660 I think I'm one of the least likely people to say needlessly provocative things, pointlessly provocative things.

00:45:59.660 He said, but, you know, I'm trying to go out and win votes for the Republican Party among gay and lesbian and transgender and all these kinds of people who are engaged in, you know, more left-wing sexual views and behaviors.

00:46:14.480 And I'm trying to win over their votes and I got to deal with you, you know, because I'm trying to convince them that the Republican Party is totally cool with transgenderism and redefining marriage contrary to what it is and all this stuff. 0.93

00:46:27.060 And then there's you with your provocative extremism saying that, no, you don't believe in transgenderism or, no, you don't believe in gay marriage or whatever.

00:46:35.000 I thought, wow, that's really wild because, one, why would I prioritize the partisan desires of the Republican Party over the truth?

00:46:48.140 Why would I compromise my integrity, my conscience, my understanding of the truth for the Republican Party?

00:46:54.660 I like the Republican Party, but, you know, come on, it's a political party.

00:46:57.000 Give me a break, man.

00:46:57.820 That's like your highest good.

00:46:58.960 Give me a, that's insane.

00:46:59.920 But then furthermore, the views, the supposedly far extremist, needlessly provocative bomb-throwing views I'm espousing, were held by Barack Obama in 2011.

00:47:13.480 That, basically what he's saying is, hey, I'm trying to convince all of these leftists to become Republicans.

00:47:19.860 And the way I'm trying to convince them to become Republicans is to tell them that the Republican Party is leftist.

00:47:25.080 But sometimes you, right-wingers and conservatives, insist that the Republican Party should be conservative.

00:47:31.060 It's not like, yeah, okay.

00:47:32.600 I don't, I want to get more votes for the Republican Party, I guess, but I don't want to do it at the expense of giving up all my beliefs.

00:47:39.980 Then that would be a Pyrrhic victory for the Republican Party.

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