Ep. 1684 - Did Zelensky Get Thrown Out of the White House on Purpose？
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Plus, everyone is talking about how Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky got into a shouting
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Everyone is saying that Zelensky completely blew it and made one of the biggest foreign policy
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the past three, four days. Zelensky and Trump get into a shouting match in the Oval Office. And most
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people at this point, I think, have seen that little clip from the very, very end of the press
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conference. And so I think they're missing out on a lot of context. It seems to me virtually every
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pundit has gotten this wrong because the story is Zelensky totally screws up. Zelensky screws up.
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He blew it. Big mistake. He allowed himself to get rattled and emotional, and he blew it on U.S.
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support. And I don't think that's exactly what's happening. Say what you will about Zelensky.
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Say he's corrupt. Say he is annoying. Say he's ungrateful. We could be here all day. I have some
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strong feelings about the Ukrainian regime, which put me on an enemy's list for an NGO associated
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with Ukraine. Put me on an enemy's list. We'll get to that in a moment, too. But the one thing you
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can't say about the guy, I don't think you can say he's stupid. I think he's a clever politician.
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The fact that he is still alive this far into this war is impressive. The fact that he's milked the
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West for this much support so far is impressive. So I don't think he does a lot by accident.
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And I think he might have had a strategy going into this meeting. So the meeting opens up.
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What does Trump say the purpose of the meeting? What is the purpose of the deal? What does the U.S.
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want to get out of Russia and Ukraine? Trump tells you.
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I think you're going to have to always make compromises. You can't do any deals without
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compromises. So certainly he's going to have to make some compromises. But hopefully they won't be
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as big as some people think you're going to have to make. That's all. That's all we can do. I'm here
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as an arbitrator, as a mediator to a certain extent between two parties that have been very
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hostile. To put it mildly, they've been very hostile. There's been a vicious war. There's been
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a vicious war. You know, it's a very level battlefield. And those bullets go out. And as I've
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said many times, we were talking about it with Pete, many times the only thing stopping those
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bullets is a human body. And in the case we're talking about generally young human bodies are
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stopping a lot of bullets. It's dead level. That's why it's great farmland. It's great land.
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It's great farmland. But there's very little protection against the bullets that are being
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and other things that are being shot. So all I can do is see if I can get everybody at the table and
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get an agreement. I think we're going to end up with an agreement. Otherwise, I wouldn't probably be
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even here today. So there's Trump. He says, look, we need compromise. Okay, the only way that you're
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going to get a deal done is you need concessions from both sides. If you're Vladimir Zelensky,
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do you like hearing that? You talk about concessions. The Zelensky line is Russia invaded
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Ukraine. That's the beginning and end of the story. We will not give up one inch of our territory.
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We're going to go return to the pre-2014 borders. We're not conceding anything. That has been
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Zelensky's consistent line. So you're Zelensky. You hear this. Is this the kind of deal that you like?
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I'm not so sure. But why does Trump want compromise? Why does he want a deal? Because
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his objective is to be, in his words, a peacemaker.
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Your legacy will be the peacemaker and not the president that led this country into another war
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and ended foreign wars. And I've got a question.
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I hope it will. I mean, I hope I'm going to be remembered as a peacemaker. This would be a great
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thing if we could do this. I'm doing this to save lives more than anything else. Second is to save a
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lot of money. But I consider that to be far less important. So I hope I'm going to thank you,
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Brian, for that question. It was a nice question. I hope I'll be known and recognized as a peacemaker.
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This would be a great thing to solve. This is a very dangerous situation. You know,
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this could lead to a third world war. This was headed in the wrong direction.
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I love this answer because everyone focuses on how Trump just wants to save money, you know,
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and maybe he's being penny wise, pound foolish. That's the argument from the liberal establishment.
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NATO's a good investment. Ukraine's a good investment. You heard this from Mitt Romney. Ukraine,
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oh, it's the best investment we've ever had in the military because we just give them money.
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We don't have to send them any troops. And then the Ukrainian soldiers, I mean,
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they're getting slaughtered, but they're going to sacrifice themselves to kill Russian soldiers.
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And we want to kill Russian soldiers because that'll degrade the Russian military.
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And we don't really have to lose any people. So, you know, it's a great investment, right?
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That's been the American grand strategy. The American grand strategy has been,
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and they've been pretty overt about this, that they want to keep the war going as long as Russia's
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willing to fight because Russia is just going to throw their sons into a meat grinder that's going
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to kill as many Russians as possible and degrade the Russian military. And Russia does have a lot
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of ICBMs pointed at the United States. So that's good strategically. And yeah, the cost of it's going
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to be that a whole generation of Ukrainian men are going to be slaughtered. They're going to be fed
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into the meat grinder too. But look, at least it's not American men. And so these guys are all just
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going to kill each other and America's going to come out on top. And by the way, I understand that
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strategy. That is a sound, albeit somewhat ghastly strategy. But Trump says, I don't want to continue
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that grand strategy. I don't like that Biden policy. I want to make peace. Yes, I want to save money,
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but that's really unimportant compared to the chief objective, which is to stop all the killing.
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And the foreign policy establishment, DC, the worst thing they can say about Trump here is that
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Trump is naive. He doesn't understand how the world works. Sometimes you just got to kill a bunch of
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people. That's the worst thing they can say about him. But I think he's being quite sincere. He's
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I want peace. Trump is kind of a dove. He occasionally drops the Moab. He occasionally
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kills the top Iranian general. But generally speaking, he's kind of a dove. He's trying to be
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diplomatic. He doesn't want to be bombing every country all over the world like the Wilsonians and the
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neocons. Now, if you're Zelensky, do you like hearing this? I want peace. Zelensky doesn't want
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peace. I don't think. Zelensky wants a total victory over Russia, which means he wants America
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to keep funding the war, to keep sending the weapons over to the war so that Zelensky can send
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out his recruiters to go grab men, even though there have been attacks on Ukrainian draft recruiters,
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because many Ukrainians do not want to fight in this war. We've all seen the videos of the recruiters
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coming out, grabbing men. There have been news reports. This is not even like just looking on
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Twitter or something. There have been news reports from supposedly credible outlets that say that
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there are attacks on draft recruiters because a lot of Ukrainians don't want to fight this war
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anymore. But Zelensky knows if they don't keep fighting the war, then he's going to lose
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a good part of his country. So then the question is, is Trump on Zelensky's side or, as the liberals
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say, is Trump on Putin's side? And here's Trump's answer. If I didn't align myself with both of them,
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you'd never have a deal. You want me to say really terrible things about Putin and then say,
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hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on the deal? That doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned with Putin.
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I'm not aligned with anybody. I'm aligned with the United States of America and for the good of
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the world. I'm aligned with the world. And I want to get this thing over with. You see the hatred he's
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got for Putin. That's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate. He's got tremendous
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hatred. And I understand that. But I can tell you the other side is exactly in love with, you know,
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him either. So it's not a question of alignment. I have to, I'm aligned with the world.
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This is a sophisticated answer. They say, why won't you say mean things about Putin? You know,
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Joe Biden, he's a killer. He's this, he's that, he's this. Well, because all that tough talk might
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feel good, but it won't actually advance the strategic objective here, which is a peace deal.
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And so Trump, he wants the peace deal, one, because he wants to stop the killing, two,
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because he realizes as long as this war goes on, especially with a nuclear former superpower,
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you're risking a much larger regional war or potentially a world war.
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So he says, yeah, okay, look, Zelensky hates Putin. That makes it really tough. It's understandable,
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but it makes it tough to make a deal. The Russians aren't exactly so fond of this guy either.
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And they've got some good reason for it, though they began the war with the invasion.
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And so what am I going to do? I'm going to make a deal. Okay. I'm not aligned with Putin or
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Zelensky. I'm on the side of America and America's interest. This isn't, as the left would say,
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isolationism, pulling back away from the world. This is in fact a flexing of America's imperial
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hegemony. And it's such a confident flexing of the imperial hegemony in part because he's not
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dividing this regional war between us and them. He's saying, look, we're America. We're going to
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resolve this regional conflict where I'm going to hear you both out like your little children,
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and we're going to come to a solution and we're going to be in charge of this.
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It's not that we're fighting against Putin. In fact, in many ways, that would elevate Putin far
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beyond what he and Russia deserve, given their present strength.
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This is sophisticated foreign policy thinking, whether or not the swamp wants to believe it.
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Last question, the last question of this 50-minute news conference, and J.D. Vance makes just a
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suggestion, a response to the question about diplomacy. Says, you know, I think all he said was,
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President Trump's policy of diplomacy has worked better than Joe Biden's policy of bellicose rhetoric
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that isn't really backed up. And it blows up. He occupied it, our parts, big parts of Ukraine,
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parts of East and Crimea. So he occupied it on 2014. So with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you
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to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now,
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you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower
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problems. You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict.
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Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
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I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people,
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you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems
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And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America
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and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
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A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning.
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First of all, during the war, everybody has problems. Even you. But you have nice ocean.
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And don't feel now. But you will feel it in the future.
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Here, and this is what really sets it off. So people are blaming J.D. for starting this fight.
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But we've just, we've gone through some of the interview. You haven't even gone through all of it.
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Zelensky the whole time is needling them. We need security guarantees. We need this. I can't
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accept a deal that does this and that and this. And he's just, this is in front of the press,
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to J.D.'s point. He says, you know, you're coming in here. You're trying to litigate this
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in front of the media. Sure, behind closed doors, world leaders are always fighting and
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they're giving straight talk. But you're doing this in front of the media, in the Oval Office,
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making demands of us like you have any say in this whatsoever. Meanwhile, you've got major
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problems and you're attacking the president for trying to bring an end to your war.
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You should be thanking him. And Zelensky says, where have you been to Ukraine?
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To the vice president of the United States. This little pipsqueak shows up to the White House.
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Says, where have you even been there? You don't even know. Yeah, we,
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and you're going to, and this is what set it off. You have an ocean now and you don't feel it,
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but you're going to feel it. You're going to feel Putin's aggression. And then Trump takes it from
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there. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us
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what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you. Because you're in no position to dictate that.
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Remember, you're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good.
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We're going to feel very good and very strong. You're right now not in a very good position.
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You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and he happens to be right about it.
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From the very beginning of the war. You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right
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now. With us, you start having cards. I'm not playing cards. Right now, you're playing cards.
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You're playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with
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World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the
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country. This country that's backed you far more than a lot of people say they should have. Have you
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said thank you once this entire meeting? No, in this entire meeting, have you said thank you? You went to
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Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the
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United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country. Please.
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And there you have it. J.D. pushed it even further there at the end to reveal what Zelensky is doing.
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Zelensky hates Trump. Zelensky campaigned with the Biden-Kamala administration to try to get them
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over the finish line. Zelensky knows that the Republicans are not hot on the war in Ukraine.
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I'm not even weighing in on the merits of the war in Ukraine, okay? I don't care for the current
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Ukrainian regime because I received a letter last year from now Senator Jim Banks informing me that a
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Ukrainian NGO had put me on an enemies list. One of these lists that, as Senator Banks pointed out,
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are frequently used to harass, sometimes dox people they view as enemies. So I ain't so hot on
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Ukraine at the moment, all right? Now, on the flip side, I totally grant that Vladimir Putin wants to
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reconstitute something akin to the Soviet Union. He's been pretty open about that. He says the dissolution
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of the Soviet Union is the worst tragedy of the 20th century, okay? I also, on top of that, recognize
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that globalist liberals in the West helped to create the conditions for this war by turning Ukraine from
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a buffer state into a NATO proxy, which Vladimir Putin recognized as an unacceptable security risk in a really
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important strategic area that has, for over a millennium, many times been part of the Russian
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empire. So I recognize all of these things. It's kind of complicated. Putin's not our friend. The
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Ukrainian regime is annoying and corrupt. I get it. But my big takeaway, what it all comes down to is,
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I don't think Zelensky wants a US brokered peace. And I think all of this needling from the very
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beginning, no, this deal will not work. We need security guarantees. No, this is not enough. You're
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going to feel, you're going to feel the wrath of Putin. Oh, you don't get it now, but you, JD, have you
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ever even been to Ukraine? Yeah, duh, duh. I think all of that was a provocation. Because if this meeting
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went swimmingly, then the US brokers a deal. Trump says there are going to be concessions on both sides.
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And Zelensky is going to go down as the president of Ukraine who gave up a third of his country.
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He's going to go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of Ukraine.
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If, however, the US does not broker a deal, then the war will continue on.
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Zelensky will remain in power. He'll have a chance at more of a legacy. And what will happen?
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The Europeans, who also hate Trump, might come to Zelensky's rescue. And some of my evidence for this
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theory is already coming to pass. The question you have to ask yourself is, and this was JD's point,
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he says, why are you trying to litigate this in front of the media? I think he was trying to litigate
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this in front of the media to create a provocative situation, to look like the victim getting thrown
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out of the White House so that people like Keir Starmer, the prime minister of the UK, can get up
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there at his lectern and say exactly what he said two days ago.
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First, we will keep the military aid flowing and keep increasing the economic pressure on Russia
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to strengthen Ukraine now. Second, we agreed that any lasting peace must ensure Ukraine's sovereignty
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and security. And Ukraine must be at the table. Third, in the event of a peace deal, we will keep
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boosting Ukraine's own defensive capabilities to deter any future invasion. Fourth, we will go further
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develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace.
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Not every nation will feel able to contribute, but that can't mean that we sit back. Instead, those
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willing will intensify planning now with real urgency. The UK is prepared to back this with boots on the
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ground and planes in the air, together with others. Europe must do the heavy listing, but to support peace
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in our continent. So then he goes on and he says, look, we need the U.S. to come around too. But the U.S.
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is just saying, well, no, no, we want a peace deal. I don't know. It seems to me that if I'm just looking
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at outcomes, I'm not looking each little moment and I'm not looking at their blood pressure get up,
00:23:10.600
it seems to me that Zelensky got exactly what he wanted out of this, which is there's now a wedge
00:23:16.580
between the United States and Europe. Europe is saying we will continue this war. Not that they
00:23:21.080
have a lot of military resources, but they say we're going to give whatever military resources
00:23:24.800
we have to Ukraine to continue this war. There's no peace deal right now being brokered between the
00:23:30.300
United States and Russia. Looks to me like this foreign policy blunder, worst mistake ever by Vladimir
00:23:36.140
Zelensky worked out pretty perfectly for him. And it seems to be, as President Trump concluded,
00:23:42.380
that the man does not want this kind of a peace deal. Simple as. There's so much more to say first
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Can they live up to 150 years? Would they even want to? I don't know. Would you want to live to 150?
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In this episode of Michael and I sit down with two biohackers, Kayla and Warren Lentz,
00:25:28.240
to explore the radical world of longevity science and human optimization. How's that
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for a euphemism? Check out this teaser. Take me back to the moment when you said,
00:25:40.040
I'm going to live to be 150. Something in the longevity industry that we discuss is the
00:25:44.340
longevity escape velocity with the advent of AI and just the birth of super intelligence
00:25:49.640
that we can actually restore or age backwards. People I've talked to in the Radical Life Extension
00:25:56.080
don't just think they're going to live to 150. They think they're going to cure death.
00:26:00.400
Our views are pretty controversial. We might be doing like these NADIVs and stem cells and
00:26:04.960
hyperbaric and all this stuff. It seems that this schedule you have is so rigid, so incredibly
00:26:11.780
tightly controlled. Why? If God is blessing us with these medical interventions,
00:26:16.980
then it's probably okay to use them. Let's say this all works. You're 125 and one of you goes,
00:26:27.700
one of you kicks the bucket. Would you keep doing it?
00:26:31.040
Watch full episode now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel or catch the uncensored ad-free
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version exclusively on Daily Wire Plus. All right, one last point on Russia and then I'll move on.
00:26:49.180
Hillary Clinton is keeping up this drumbeat that the Trump administration is mollifying Putin.
00:26:55.900
So Pete Hegseth just came out, Defense Secretary, and he orders the Cyber Command to stop focusing
00:27:03.440
on Russia, that the big cybersecurity threats are not really coming from Russia. And Hillary says,
00:27:07.780
wouldn't want to hurt Putin's feelings. And then Pete, on X, lays a haymaker on her by reminding Hillary
00:27:14.560
of this little exchange with the Russian minister in 2009.
00:27:19.660
Today, in anticipation of this important meeting and our time here together, I wanted to present you
00:27:29.500
with a little gift which represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden and I have been saying.
00:27:36.620
And that is, we want to reset our relationship.
00:27:53.100
We worked hard to get the right Russian word. Do you think we got it?
00:28:01.780
And this says peresagruska, which means overcharged.
00:28:27.680
The American left has defended and sucked up to Russia for over 100 years.
00:28:35.380
The American left defended Russian communists for pretty much the entirety of the Cold War and before the Cold War, defended Stalin, denied the Holodomor.
00:28:48.860
You could not find a more sycophantic political faction in America than the left vis-a-vis Russia.
00:28:58.040
All the way up to 2009 when Hillary Clinton created the Russian reset button and the Russian foreign minister made fun of her in the room and said, you got the word wrong, actually, you stupid idiot Americans.
00:29:07.520
She goes, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I guess we did, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:29:10.620
But now because President Trump is able to achieve results with Putin, because President Trump is the only president on whose watch Putin did not further invade a country in the last 20 years.
00:29:27.240
Bill Clinton, what do you think about Vladimir Putin?
00:29:29.220
look mr putin is got he got all he's very smart but you know him better than most people yeah i
00:29:37.220
do what was he like behind closed doors away from you know the sort of the public utterances
00:29:42.420
smart and um remarkably um we had a really good blunt relationship how blunt brutally blunt
00:29:53.220
no but i think you know i think the right strategy most of the time is but it's frustrating
00:30:02.340
to people in your line of work you should be brutally honest with people in private
00:30:08.100
and then if you want them to help you try to avoid embarrassing them in public right now sometimes
00:30:12.820
they do things which make it impossible for you to keep quiet but by and large i found all the
00:30:21.540
people i dealt with appreciated it if i told them the truth how i honestly felt and what our
00:30:27.220
interests were and what our objectives were and they also appreciated it when i didn't kick them
00:30:32.500
around in public for as long as i couldn't kick them around this is almost exactly what trump said
00:30:39.540
in the oval office he said look i can't i'm trying to get a deal done so i could go out here on the
00:30:43.220
cameras and call putin hitler or something but that's not going to help me get a deal done that's
00:30:47.700
exactly the advice it's exactly the approach even specifically regarding putin that bill
00:30:53.940
clinton was advocating not so long ago the difference is trump has been successful in that strategy and
00:31:00.340
bill clinton was personally relatively successful hillary clinton was a complete disaster she totally
00:31:05.940
failed in her role as secretary of state and the democrats since up to and especially joe biden have
00:31:10.420
failed too i maybe they're just miffed because trump is doing the sort of thing that they've been
00:31:15.860
advocating but he's doing it well he's doing it effectively now speaking of aging democrats we got
00:31:20.660
a new mayor candidate for new york city it's a name you might remember a blast from the past maybe the
00:31:28.580
democrat future i'm talking about andrew cuomo the city just feels threatening out of control and in
00:31:37.380
crisis these conditions exist not as an act of god but rather as an act of our political leaders or more
00:31:47.060
precisely the lack of intelligent action by many of our political leaders but new yorkers know the
00:31:54.900
simple answer of what to do when there's a crisis in leadership you lead you act you do i had the honor
00:32:02.660
to serve the public in every level of government in my 20s with my father when he was governor with
00:32:10.100
mayor david dinkins on homelessness with president bill clinton as secretary of housing and urban
00:32:16.260
development where we worked with cities all across the nation and as new york state attorney general
00:32:22.260
and as your governor i know government can make a positive difference because we did was it easy no
00:32:30.180
but together we achieved historic progressive accomplishments now i want to put a button in
00:32:38.100
that that might be true they might have achieved historic progressive accomplishments because because
00:32:43.620
cuomo when he tweets out this video he says our city's in crisis that's why i'm running to be mayor
00:32:47.540
of new york city we need government to work we need effective leadership and you have to hand it to
00:32:51.220
him andrew cuomo was very effective at killing elderly people during covet he was very very effective at
00:32:58.340
that he sent the elderly people into nursing homes where they all died from covet not literally all
00:33:05.940
of them but a lot of them now he was less effective when he tried to cover that up which was the real
00:33:12.020
reason that he got booted out of office as governor the media and the democrats tried to pretend that
00:33:17.860
cuomo was booted out of office for a sex scandal but the sex scandal accusations were actually pretty weak
00:33:23.460
and the real reason he got booted out of office is because of his horrific mishandling of
00:33:27.300
covid the many many people he killed as a result of his policies and his feckless attempt to cover
00:33:32.660
it up now the democrats couldn't really blame him for that they couldn't really say this is the reason
00:33:38.580
we're pushing you out because that would have implicated a lot of them as well and they didn't
00:33:42.260
want to go down with the ship so they said it was this nonsense sex scandal but that's really what
00:33:46.500
it was so he was it was effective at some of that and he has scored major progressive accomplishments
00:33:51.780
in the sense that his two notable accomplishments as governor were legalizing abortion up until the
00:33:59.300
moment of birth changing the penal code such that if you murdered a pregnant woman it would only be a
00:34:03.460
single homicide no longer a double homicide lighting the freedom tower up pink to celebrate how many
00:34:08.740
babies he could kill and then killing elderly people so he's very effective at killing really really
00:34:13.620
young vulnerable people and really really elderly vulnerable people that's it that's the only thing he was
00:34:18.180
effective at the democrats just feel tired to me it all feels so tired andrew cuomo this guy has been
00:34:27.300
around i mean as he says he's been around since his father was governor he's been a fixture in in new
00:34:32.500
york politics and and federal politics even for like 40 years or more it's just so tired the democrats
00:34:40.900
just have no new ideas so it's just they're recycling the same people biden the clintons
00:34:49.140
the cuomos it's the same old nonsense and it just hasn't worked a great example of this democrat
00:34:56.260
representative joyce beaty she's an ohio congress lady former chairman of the congressional black caucus
00:35:01.700
she tweets out 13 years ago today trayvon martin at 17 years old was wrongfully killed in an act of
00:35:07.060
police brutality that shook the nation and brought vital awareness to the racially motivated violence
00:35:11.940
that plagues our country did you catch the error there well a couple errors first of all you know
00:35:17.300
trayvon martin uh was viciously beating the man who ended up killing him too and we have the pictures
00:35:24.260
to prove it after you know he's banging his head against the ground so there was some argument that
00:35:28.820
the man who killed him could have been acting in self-defense however the real issue here is
00:35:34.020
george zimmerman the man who killed trayvon martin was not a police officer
00:35:37.940
this woman how many years after his death 13 years she still doesn't even know the basic facts
00:35:44.580
of what happened in the killing of trayvon martin trayvon martin became one of their martyrs
00:35:49.700
one of the secular saints for the the pseudo religion of of racialism and grievance but she didn't even
00:35:59.140
get the basic facts right this reminds me of i remember one time some lib race hustling lady
00:36:06.020
goes on a radio show by david webb and she accuses david webb of having white privilege and webb starts
00:36:12.740
laughing it was radio so she couldn't see his face because david webb's a black guy it just seems like
00:36:16.980
it's the democrats are a broken record it seems like they just keep trying to go back to the hits from
00:36:21.380
the 70s and the 80s and those hits don't work anymore okay we have a new generation of people
00:36:26.340
and it just does sweet caroline just doesn't hit like it used to man you know this is this is a party
00:36:33.620
that has exhausted itself and i'm not saying they can't come up with any new ideas
00:36:38.100
but maybe they can't i don't know that they can they've followed their ideas to their logical
00:36:44.740
conclusion the logical conclusion is white people are evil men are evil everyone's got to be gay
00:36:51.700
you know marriage needs to be abolished we need to abolish prisons we need to abolish borders i mean it
00:36:58.580
just seems like the the leftist project is just so corroded itself it's just it's just collapsed and
00:37:07.620
maybe some new idea on the left will crop up but i don't see what that is now the party is still being
00:37:12.660
led by the bidens and the clintons and the cuomos and they're still saying the same old nonsense they've
00:37:17.540
been saying for decades and the only people offering anything new anything new love it or hate it though i
00:37:23.940
generally love it is the right is trump new ideas some fresh air on foreign policy on domestic policy
00:37:33.460
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my favorite comment on friday is from old school who says respond to an email or you might lose your
00:38:51.380
job is terrifying but get this untested vaccine or you will lose your job was just fine yeah that's
00:38:58.180
true hold on i'm seeing a little bit of a double standard here okay it doesn't a little bit of an
00:39:02.220
inconsistency doesn't make a ton of sense to me you know who does make sense to me though
00:39:06.660
one of my absolute favorite people in hollywood and actually one of my favorite people in america
00:39:13.220
because he's just a great guy and he's done incredible work both on screen and off screen
00:39:17.580
and it's so rare because you know hollywood is filled with just decayed narcissists who just live
00:39:25.440
miserable lives of squalor and so when you find a good person there it is you want to talk about a
00:39:32.300
diamond in a rough you want to talk about a needle in a haystack well that would be the great gary sinise
00:39:37.120
gary thank you so much for coming on the show no it's great to be with you michael thank you for that
00:39:42.080
so gary there's so much i want to talk about that that you're doing because you're one of the most
00:39:46.660
active guys not not just on screen not just on stage with the lieutenant dan band but also in all
00:39:52.400
of your charitable work with the gary sinise foundation helping american veterans for many
00:39:56.200
many years but you do have a new movie out that kind of ties a lot of those things together and that
00:40:01.580
would be brothers after war the movie as i understand is out now correct uh yeah it came out
00:40:08.280
friday that's great okay so it just came out i i've been traveling a little bit so unfortunately
00:40:12.820
i haven't made it to the theaters to see it yet i just i think we have a trailer mr davies can we get
00:40:17.800
a little teaser for brothers after war one of the hardest parts of being a warrior
00:40:28.240
i was angry at everybody they didn't understand what i understood
00:40:34.900
yeah i was this person taking my own life i invested so much of myself into the military that
00:40:41.900
it was hard to let go i'm doing this documentary right now because i want to see how the guys that
00:40:48.320
i embedded with years ago are doing how they're really doing
00:40:58.700
we are family and we don't have to fight this fight alone
00:41:04.520
you spend so much time out here with them you almost become brothers so
00:41:17.860
coming home has always been the hardest part of being a warrior
00:41:21.440
but if we walk beside them they can make it all the way home
00:41:27.080
beautiful so uh gary tell me a little bit about what attracted you to the project
00:41:38.100
yeah so thanks michael um thanks for playing that uh years ago
00:41:44.000
probably uh we launched a movie in 2009 called brothers at war
00:41:51.340
and it's uh my buddy jake roddemacher had two brothers serving over in iraq
00:42:00.880
you know this was a difficult time um back then because um
00:42:05.900
there wasn't a lot of great publicity coming out of the iraq war if you recall
00:42:10.640
at the time the media was covering a lot of negative things you weren't
00:42:16.640
yet i and i went over there myself so i i i saw it personally there was a lot of
00:42:22.260
a lot of stuff our troops were doing over there that wasn't being covered
00:42:25.560
and jake wanted to sort of embed with some units over there to find out what was
00:42:30.780
going on with his brothers and others who were serving over there so we ended up
00:42:35.320
making this movie called brothers at war that showed you know active duty life
00:42:40.100
during the the height of the iraq war and it did very well for a documentary it got a
00:42:46.180
theatrical release it got a dvd sale it got a television release
00:42:51.480
on uh on cable so it did very well and years later i was talking to jake and i said
00:42:57.940
what do you think is i know what's happened to your brothers where they are but what
00:43:01.620
about all the other guys that are in the film the guys and gals that we meet in the first film
00:43:05.900
where are they now what are they doing are they out of the service are they in the service are
00:43:10.460
they still serving what's going on with them jake knew a couple of them uh where they were but
00:43:16.060
others he did not so we decided to make a second film and we discovered that many of them are out
00:43:23.060
of the service now so this movie is very much about the transition from military service
00:43:29.180
combat veterans transitioning out of the military and um the challenges that they face you know as
00:43:38.000
they as they leave the military and go into the civilian community and it's a very very good movie
00:43:44.560
that really helps bridge the gap between the average american who really doesn't have any
00:43:48.780
personal connection with somebody serving in the military and the military itself and what it's
00:43:53.480
like to serve our country come home from war and then move on you know gary you've been doing this
00:43:58.560
for so long uh the the uso tours and the lieutenant dan band and the garrison east foundation and
00:44:06.520
at a time when what is it something like uh one percent of americans serve in the military you know a
00:44:13.940
an historically small number of americans even really know someone or have family members who have
00:44:18.460
served in the military what drew you to the this particular cause is it is it primarily that you
00:44:26.960
played one of the most famous and memorable veterans in the history of cinema or you know it's just been
00:44:32.100
it's been such a long-standing cause of yours well my michael i think that's that's one of the things
00:44:39.860
you know playing lieutenant dan and forrest gump was uh you know it's great great movie great role great
00:44:46.380
role to play and that that really introduced me to the disabled veteran community in a way that i had
00:44:54.300
never engaged before it it was it was shortly after that movie opened that i was contacted by the
00:45:02.720
disabled american veterans organization at the time they were representing probably 1.5 million wounded
00:45:09.980
veterans going back to world war ii and all the way up until the gulf war uh in the early 90s
00:45:17.920
and vietnam veterans korean war veterans everything in between and and i felt a lot of compassion for them
00:45:25.660
i really you know wanted to play that role in the most honest way possible i wanted to understand them
00:45:32.920
i wanted to communicate the struggles of being a wounded uh vietnam veteran coming home from war and
00:45:38.660
kind of isolating and all that and then i met you know many many many real life lieutenant dan's out
00:45:46.080
there and that uh after september 11th it just you know i felt with veterans in my own family with the
00:45:54.340
veterans that i'd met through other work that i'd done in the 80s through the disabled american veterans
00:46:00.180
organization in the 90s i just felt kind of teed up for a new level of action after september 11th when
00:46:07.320
we started deploying to iraq and afghanistan people started getting hurt people started getting killed
00:46:12.460
families started losing loved ones i was going to the hospitals i was meeting many many many wounded
00:46:18.940
folks that were really banged up and were going to need a lot of help going on uh with their lives and i just
00:46:24.480
kind of jumped in and started i started volunteering for the uso and going out and visiting troops around
00:46:32.140
the world and uh been supporting lots of military non-profits out there that were trying to support
00:46:37.780
them and that all just you know the more i did of that michael the more i wanted to do and the more i uh
00:46:45.400
the more people i met and the more i could see that the impact of what's showing up can do for
00:46:51.320
somebody just walking into a hospital room and seeing somebody missing three limbs or four limbs
00:46:57.380
or traumatic brain injury or severe burns or whatever their family standing over the hospital bed
00:47:03.220
hoping that they were going to recover all that and me showing up and walking in the room could change
00:47:08.820
the whole mood of everything and it could have a and i'd walk out of the room and i i would know
00:47:14.500
that i left a positive you know i left the room better than when i walked in well having been to
00:47:21.660
a lot of gary sinise foundation events over the years i can attest personally that is what happens
00:47:28.300
that is very much what happens and and so it's amazing that you've devoted yourself to that that's
00:47:33.280
why i mentioned in my introduction you know most of my friends that i know in show business they think
00:47:38.400
about themselves uh roughly 99.9 of the day and then 0.1 they think about lunch or something like
00:47:45.280
that and the fact that you have actually you know given so much of your time and energy is so beautiful
00:47:50.920
i i can't let you go though before i ask speaking of the lieutenant dan band and looking at that
00:47:56.060
beautiful p bass over there in the corner there uh is is there anything on the horizon musically that
00:48:01.700
that people can look forward to well yeah my i'm and we're we continue to go out every you know
00:48:08.800
on the average every month uh to military bases military hospitals around the the country uh we
00:48:15.440
have a show coming up in a couple of weeks at brook army medical center we do it every year
00:48:19.940
we go down there we do these things at hospitals called invincible spirit festivals we bring food
00:48:26.380
we bring moon bounces for the kids that are you know a lot of times at these military
00:48:31.400
hospitals you have families that are just enduring these long rehabilitations of their loved one
00:48:37.320
there and so us coming in with music and food and fun and stuff like that can really change the mood
00:48:43.300
so we're doing that we do it every year we do it all around uh these different hospitals we'll be there
00:48:48.640
in a couple of weeks and we have multiple concerts on military bases throughout the year
00:48:53.500
one other music project that i've been working on personally is something for my son mac
00:49:00.960
mac mac was diagnosed with a very rare cancer in 2018 and i think you know we we lost him uh in early
00:49:12.160
uh 2024 after a five and a half year battle he was a musician a composer uh just a tremendous drummer
00:49:21.280
uh just a tremendous guy and uh he in the final year of his life he had a he'd been fighting cancer
00:49:28.700
it was taking all his time and that final year which we didn't know was going to be his final year
00:49:34.540
of course but early in 2023 he said he wanted to finish a piece of music that he'd written in college
00:49:41.060
that never finished and he did that he ended up going into the studio with an orchestra in the summer
00:49:47.400
of 2023 recording this beautiful piece called arctic circles that's at max anise youtube
00:49:53.840
that led to an entire album of music he said i don't want to stop with just this one piece
00:49:59.920
and so for the rest of the year he was working on an album called resurrection and revival
00:50:06.720
he finished it and a week later he went into the hospital and that was his final trip to the hospital
00:50:15.440
after he died i discovered all this other music michael
00:50:18.960
on his laptop in his dropbox file all this stuff that he'd written and tucked away
00:50:24.260
and not wanting to leave it on the laptop i went to work on a second record for him
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resurrection and revival part two all of that you can read about it at gary sinise foundation.org
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you can go to max anise youtube you can hear the music you can order the vinyls
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all the proceeds from the vinyl sales go to gary sinise foundation mac worked for the foundation
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and he wanted the proceeds to help the foundation's mission at the gary sinise foundation so you can
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order the vinyls and you can download the record as well resurrection and revival and resurrection
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and revival part two that's what that's what's primarily taken up a lot of my time this past year
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is just trying to accomplish this goal for mac and and bringing his music to life i remember when when
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mac recorded the the there was a song that it was maybe it was on youtube i don't even know really
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where i first saw it i thought man this is really cool with the orchestra and everything you know
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wow how amazing and then to get a whole album out of that and then this this amazing process of of a
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second album because you know any musician professional or amateur is going to have scratch
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tracks and little things you're kind of working on and they're just all you know in various states of
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of unfinished and to go through all that it's just so beautiful so i i really encourage everyone
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you have a long list of things to do not a long list you have a solid list of things to do right
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now go to the gary sinise foundation just give money first of all that's the first thing to do
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but uh what you can also do while you're while you've got your checkbook out is get resurrection
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and revival go get the albums absolutely uh amazing amazing project then did i mention give
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money to the gary sinise foundation that's the next thing to do and then finally when you're
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rounding out your week go check out brothers after war uh one to support one of the best guys
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like in the country but second of all uh because yeah i'm quite confident especially given the first
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movie that it is excellent i look forward to seeing it myself gary thank you so much for coming on and
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taking taking the time oh thanks so much for having me michael and thank thanks for helping to get
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the word out god bless absolutely good to see you gary and i will see all of you in the member
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