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00:00:37.720 The stock market is tanking, President Trump is buying a Tesla, and smart economists are still betting on a new golden age.

00:00:45.640 Those things are all happening.

00:00:47.640 They're all connected.

00:00:48.320 And any analyst, political or economic, who is surprised by any of it, simply does not understand the present state of American politics.

00:00:58.100 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:00:58.800 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:21.760 The market is absolutely tanking.

00:02:24.340 There is no question about it.

00:02:26.220 We are in for some serious market turmoil.

00:02:28.860 If you have a 401k, if you have an IRA, if you invest in any way in the market, if you just participate in the economy, even if you don't invest directly or even indirectly, even if you're just going to the grocery store and you like it when, you know, the economy keeps moving and you can keep getting your paycheck and paying your bills, you're probably a little bit worried right now.

00:02:49.300 Right. I know. That's all real.

00:02:54.200 Some political analysts and economic analysts are saying, this Donald Trump, he has no idea what he's doing.

00:02:59.660 This is a complete disaster.

00:03:01.180 Or they'll point to the people around Trump.

00:03:02.940 They'll point to Elon Musk, for instance, who's got a really prominent role in this administration.

00:03:06.440 They'll see this Elon Musk, he has no idea what he's doing.

00:03:09.000 He's helping to destroy the economy.

00:03:10.660 This Elon Musk, richest man in the world, running, what, five of the most prominent businesses on planet Earth.

00:03:17.160 He doesn't know what he's doing. 0.96

00:03:18.320 These lunatics, they're just screwing everything up and messing up the economy. 0.92

00:03:22.020 So much so that yesterday at the White House, President Trump had to buy a Tesla to try to buoy Elon Musk's car company. 0.97

00:03:30.240 Now, Trump actually did buy a Tesla yesterday at the White House.

00:03:32.900 It was really, really beautiful.

00:03:33.920 Take a listen just to give you context of what's really going on in politics and the economy.

00:03:40.020 Somebody that's been so good to our country.

00:03:42.000 He didn't have to do this.

00:03:43.180 He didn't have to go through this.

00:03:45.600 And we can't let it happen.

00:03:47.260 And aside from that, I happen to love the product.

00:03:51.440 It's a lot dicer if you also happen to love the product.

00:03:54.600 And he's done a really good job.

00:03:56.220 Go ahead, Peter.

00:03:57.000 Is there, I guess this is for Elon Musk, is there a discount?

00:04:01.980 President Trump broke the art of the deal.

00:04:03.740 Is there any kind of over-negotiating?

00:04:05.840 Let me answer that.

00:04:06.860 I know he can give me a discount, but honestly, I don't want to ask for one.

00:04:10.380 You know, I'm president.

00:04:11.680 So I want to pay full price.

00:04:13.900 And what is your message, President Trump?

00:04:15.740 Buying a new car, while there are some folks who will see this clip at home and they are struggling with their retirement accounts down at the moment.

00:04:24.020 Uncertainty about work.

00:04:25.320 Well, I think they're going to do great.

00:04:28.240 I think we're, our country had to do this.

00:04:30.800 We had to go and do this.

00:04:32.080 They've taken away other countries.

00:04:34.400 They've taken away our business.

00:04:35.800 They've taken away our jobs.

00:04:37.800 I did it initially very strongly against, as you know, China and some others in the first term. 0.60

00:04:45.040 And it was a very successful term.

00:04:47.040 Okay.

00:04:47.680 So first of all, it's great.

00:04:49.740 The aura, the aesthetics, it's all great.

00:04:51.940 Here you have President Trump, brash billionaire celebrity for almost half a century now,

00:04:56.120 buying the cool, shiny, hip car next to the world's richest man, who's also a rocket ship maker,

00:05:01.940 who's a meme king, who is plugging people's brains into computers.

00:05:05.900 It's, it's just cool.

00:05:08.000 It's cool.

00:05:09.000 You can't picture Joe Biden doing that.

00:05:10.840 You can't picture George Bush doing that.

00:05:12.820 You can't even really picture Bill Clinton doing it, though.

00:05:14.620 He's the closest.

00:05:16.020 It's, it's cool.

00:05:17.340 Why is he doing it?

00:05:18.760 Well, as he says, it is to help buoy Tesla.

00:05:22.800 Tesla stock is down something like 48% since the inauguration.

00:05:27.500 This is obviously connected to Musk's role in the administration.

00:05:31.740 It's not because people stopped liking Tesla's all of a sudden, you know,

00:05:34.960 because the radio doesn't work.

00:05:36.840 It's not because the car company stopped being cool.

00:05:39.040 If anything, the car company has gotten much cooler now that they've rolled out self-driving,

00:05:42.760 which is incredible.

00:05:43.680 I was driving around in a cyber truck the other day, in Jeremy's cyber truck,

00:05:46.700 and the self-driving is unbelievable.

00:05:48.880 So it's, it's not anything that the company is doing.

00:05:51.180 It's that there is a political movement to kill Elon Musk's company,

00:05:54.660 to punish Elon Musk for helping President Trump to make America great again.

00:05:58.960 That's it.

00:05:59.580 And that's what Trump says.

00:06:00.360 He says, this guy didn't have to do it.

00:06:01.920 He sacrificed a lot to help out the American people.

00:06:04.780 He campaigned with me.

00:06:06.040 He helped my campaign.

00:06:06.860 He donated.

00:06:07.700 He, he spoke on the campaign trail.

00:06:09.460 People knew what they were getting when they voted for me.

00:06:11.300 And now I'm going to unleash him to make the federal government more efficient.

00:06:15.400 So Trump is showing he's loyal.

00:06:17.640 Some people say Trump isn't loyal because he fires people over tweets and that, but to people

00:06:21.800 who are loyal to Trump, Trump tends to be loyal to them.

00:06:24.280 And, and Trump is showing that here, but furthermore, he's showing that he's serious about buying

00:06:31.660 American.

00:06:33.120 Tesla is the most American car company I can even think of these days.

00:06:38.400 And there were other great American car companies in the past, but right now this is an American

00:06:43.040 car company.

00:06:43.540 These cars are made in America, designed in America.

00:06:46.000 There are four Americans primarily.

00:06:47.900 So Trump is saying, I really believe in rebuilding American industry, reshoring, manufacturing,

00:06:54.060 bring stuff that we can build to America.

00:06:57.500 Third thing though, and this is what is key for the markets and for people who are worried

00:07:01.580 about their 401ks or their portfolios.

00:07:05.880 Trump knew this was going to happen.

00:07:08.200 When he's asked about the market taking a tumble, I've spoken to even friends of mine in political

00:07:13.640 media and political pundits.

00:07:15.460 And they'll say, Oh, Trump, he just follows the markets.

00:07:18.420 He just follows the headlines.

00:07:19.400 He's going to get spooked if the market starts to tumble.

00:07:21.700 I said, I don't think so because Trump has been saying for weeks and months, really, that

00:07:27.160 there might be a little short-term economic pain from his program, but, but we have to do

00:07:33.080 it.

00:07:33.240 It's going to lead to long-term economic gain, but more importantly, as Trump just said there

00:07:36.800 in that press conference with Elon Musk, we had to do it.

00:07:40.560 Trump did not run in 2024 on making the market reach record highs immediately again.

00:07:49.000 That's not what he ran on.

00:07:50.820 He ran on tariffs.

00:07:53.660 He ran on bringing back American industry.

00:07:56.400 He ran on necessarily raising the cost of certain goods, imported goods to help rebuild

00:08:02.040 the American industrial base.

00:08:03.540 He ran against the globalist economic order, okay?

00:08:10.500 He ran with full knowledge and consciousness that that will necessarily cause some economic

00:08:17.100 turmoil in the short term.

00:08:19.180 But he says it's going to be worth it in the long term.

00:08:21.180 And even more importantly, we have to do it.

00:08:23.100 If you still believe, don't forget, most American voters voted for Trump and they voted for Trump

00:08:30.020 as he was promising, as he was declaring that the current economic order doesn't work for

00:08:37.560 America.

00:08:38.560 Offshoring all of our manufacturing damages national security.

00:08:42.300 It's damaged the flyover states, those, those small American towns that, that used to have

00:08:48.500 robust economies.

00:08:49.680 All that stuff's been shipped overseas.

00:08:51.080 It's damaged the American family. 0.86

00:08:53.220 It's gutted the American family. 0.85

00:08:54.580 It's led to American men to die deaths of despair from suicide and drug addiction.

00:09:00.300 It's, it's flooded our country with cheap imported goods made by slave labor in China, 1.00

00:09:05.100 but it has hollowed out American society.

00:09:08.300 And it's left us very vulnerable as we saw during COVID when our supply chains were disrupted

00:09:12.800 and we couldn't get stuff anymore.

00:09:15.800 That's what he ran on.

00:09:17.040 And to undo the economic and political and social damage of the last 30, 40 years is going

00:09:26.340 to cause some tension, some pain.

00:09:29.940 The market might not react all that well to it.

00:09:33.080 Trump campaigned on that.

00:09:34.600 He knows that's what he's signing up for.

00:09:36.680 So my read on the situation is he's not going to get spooked by a bad headline or two.

00:09:41.060 He's a sophisticated political thinker, no matter what his enemies think.

00:09:46.120 And he knows that in order to be a consequential president, for one, to have a serious legacy,

00:09:50.720 and in order to actually fix the problems, not just the symptoms of the problems, but

00:09:54.420 the root economic, political, and social problems, he's got to make big changes and

00:09:59.020 he's got to be able to withstand that storm.

00:10:00.700 I think he knows all of that, which frankly should calm the markets because it means that

00:10:04.780 for all of Trump's apparently erratic talk about tariffs, now they're on, now they're

00:10:09.480 off, now we're going to levy him on this country, now on that country, now forget about this

00:10:12.440 country again.

00:10:13.260 For all of that, Trump has a stable vision here.

00:10:16.540 The broad economic vision has remained the same from his inauguration, before that, from

00:10:22.860 the campaign trail, really going back to his first run for president, and even going back

00:10:27.300 to the 80s when he was complaining about the same kinds of economic problems and social

00:10:32.520 consequences of those problems that he was talking about when he ran for president.

00:10:36.440 You don't even just have to take my word for it.

00:10:39.480 You don't have to try to read the tea leaves of Trump when he's buying the cool car in

00:10:42.640 front of Elon Musk.

00:10:44.040 The White House, from the briefing room, through the person of Caroline Leavitt, the president's

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00:12:59.060 All this economic stuff.

00:13:00.300 Trump buying the Tesla.

00:13:01.920 Trump reacting to the falling markets.

00:13:04.260 Trump threatening tariffs on all these other countries.

00:13:06.460 This is not just Trump shooting from the hip.

00:13:09.060 Here is Caroline Leavitt, White House Press Secretary, explaining what's going on.

00:13:13.740 Our country has lost more than 5 million jobs in more than 90,000 factories due to devastating globalization over the last three decades alone.

00:13:24.140 North Carolina lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs, including 60 percent of its furniture manufacturing jobs in the years following NAFTA.

00:13:32.980 And in Michigan, globalist policies destroyed 250,000 jobs, including 40 percent of the auto industry, which, again, we know is clawing back because of President Trump's action already.

00:13:45.760 These are harrowing statistics that represent countless towns and families who have been completely destroyed.

00:13:52.280 But the America Last globalist era is ending under President Trump.

00:13:56.120 He will no longer allow our country and our workers, our hardworking American families, to be ripped off.

00:14:03.300 This is it.

00:14:04.360 She's saying this isn't about the Dow dropped three points.

00:14:08.340 This isn't about, oh, no, look at the squiggles on the S&P 500 chart from the past two days.

00:14:14.840 This is about 30 years of liberal globalism.

00:14:19.840 This is about an upending of the American economic and, therefore, political and social order.

00:14:25.880 And Trump is – he's not just aiming to boost your 401ks for a week or two.

00:14:29.900 In the long run, this will hopefully boost all of our wealth.

00:14:33.020 But this is about an overextended American empire that has hollowed out its middle class, that has abandoned its constituents, a dying nation that isn't having children, that isn't forming families, where the men are killing themselves, are literally killing themselves.

00:14:47.980 It's about fixing that.

00:14:50.000 Because if we don't fix that, if we only focus on pushing GDP up a little bit more consistently, if we only focus on making sure that market is still just really at the tippy-tippy top, we are going, like all empires, to overextend ourselves and collapse.

00:15:04.200 And we need to make sure we still have a strong country that can live to fight another day and that can be made great again.

00:15:10.840 That's what this is about.

00:15:12.600 And it's not – you don't just accidentally fall into that economic policy.

00:15:15.840 That is conscious.

00:15:16.780 Whether you agree with it or not, you can't say it's all just an accident.

00:15:20.600 It's all just a mistake.

00:15:21.400 That is a conscious policy.

00:15:22.620 I happen to think it's the smart one in the long run.

00:15:25.720 The other proof that Trump is not just totally screwing up and the Republican Party is on the ropes or whatever is that the smartest Democrats right now are not licking their chops for the next election.

00:15:37.240 The smartest Democrats right now are not cheering all of this on.

00:15:40.880 They're nervous.

00:15:41.580 I think one of the smarter Democrat voices out there is Van Jones.

00:15:46.460 He goes on CNN.

00:15:47.740 This is what he had to say about the future of the Democrat Party.

00:15:49.940 Can we ask another question?

00:15:52.420 Do I have to talk about my own party?

00:15:55.220 Can we talk about Ukraine or something?

00:15:57.320 No?

00:15:57.740 No? 0.99

00:15:58.540 Look, man, we're screwed. 0.96

00:16:00.760 I mean, we don't – no, Democrats don't know what to do. 0.97

00:16:02.920 This is a nightmare.

00:16:05.200 You know, somebody like Donald Trump, we thought we'd at least have, you know, Hakeem Jeffries in the Speaker's chair to hold him back if we didn't have Kamala in there to do the right thing.

00:16:12.440 Listen, the Democratic Party is going through a massive set of internal crises.

00:16:18.380 You have a party that got trapped two ways.

00:16:22.380 One, defending a broken status quo that nobody likes because they thought that Donald Trump was going to make it worse.

00:16:30.760 But when you're defending a status quo, you're going to lose.

00:16:33.000 And then offending most people in the country, calling everybody sexist and racist and transphobic and every other name, and then saying, please follow us. 0.71

00:16:41.740 That's not a good strategy, folks.

00:16:43.900 Defending a broken status quo and offending most of the country turns out is not as popular as my party thought it was going to be.

00:16:51.740 I love it.

00:16:52.760 I love the candor here.

00:16:54.480 Hey, Van Jones, what do you think about the future of the Democrat Party?

00:16:57.580 Can we talk about anything else?

00:16:59.160 I'd rather talk about Ukraine.

00:17:00.600 I'd rather talk about Gaza.

00:17:01.680 Give me an easy issue, not the future of the Democrat Party.

00:17:05.300 It's a nightmare.

00:17:07.380 Don't forget, this is the same Van Jones who, back in, what was it, 2017, when he was publicly still defending the Democrats and he was publicly still attacking Trump, he was caught on a hidden camera admitting, yeah, this Russia hoax, it's a nothing burger.

00:17:23.180 The Russia thing, these attacks on Trump, it's nothing.

00:17:26.040 It's going nowhere.

00:17:26.920 He is a fairly sober analyst.

00:17:29.060 So you have very prominent smart Democrats who are saying, ah, what Trump's doing right now, it's still pretty good.

00:17:37.600 And then you've got Trump saying, look, I know, guys, I know, I predicted that this would happen.

00:17:42.940 I know what I'm doing.

00:17:43.780 I would say, don't freak out.

00:17:45.860 Everyone freaks out.

00:17:46.940 Trump does something or something happens in politics.

00:17:49.660 Everyone freaks out.

00:17:50.660 Take a deep breath.

00:17:51.560 Wait 24 hours.

00:17:53.520 Think about Reagan.

00:17:54.420 Reagan, right in the early part of his term, of his first term, he recognized there were going to be economic problems.

00:18:00.520 And he just kind of leaned into it so that they could get through the worst of it, have a recovery, go on, and have mourning in America.

00:18:09.160 Now, some libs are actually leaving the country over this stuff. 0.99

00:18:12.800 One of them being Rosie O'Donnell.

00:18:17.960 Rosie O'Donnell, the liberals have said for years, if Trump gets elected, not even just Trump, if Bush gets elected, if any Republican gets elected, I'm going to leave the country.

00:18:25.460 And then they never do because America's really nice and pleasant.

00:18:28.340 They don't, and I actually want to go anywhere else.

00:18:30.520 Rosie O'Donnell made good on the thread. 1.00

00:18:32.000 She has moved out of the country because of Donald Trump.

00:18:34.260 And I'm here in Ireland, and it's beautiful and warm, not physically.

00:18:43.420 It's actually quite cold.

00:18:44.900 Moved here on January 15th, and it's been pretty wonderful, I have to say.

00:18:53.060 The people are so loving and so kind, so welcoming, and I'm very grateful.

00:19:00.300 I'm in the process of getting my Irish citizenship, as I have Irish grandparents, and that's what's going on, and that's where I've been and what I've been doing.

00:19:14.760 And although I was never someone who thought I would move to another country, that's what I decided would be the best for myself and my 12-year-old.

00:19:29.540 And when, you know, it is safe for all citizens to have equal rights there in America, that's when we will consider coming back.

00:19:41.900 Okay, first of all, say what you will about Rosie.

00:19:44.300 You've got to give her credit.

00:19:45.540 She's basically the only lib who's actually made good on the threat to leave the country if the Republican wins.

00:19:52.020 So, you know what, there's a kind of integrity to that.

00:19:54.440 You've got to give credit where credit's due.

00:19:55.800 But the more interesting statement she makes for our politics is when she says, I'm going to come back when it's safe for people to have equal rights.

00:20:06.720 What does she mean by that, for people to have equal rights?

00:20:10.520 Among Democrats these days, when you hear rights talk, well, they talk about abortion frequently.

00:20:15.360 We'll get to that in one second because Ben and Jerry's, the ice cream company, has just come out in favor of slaughtering little babies. 0.85

00:20:20.140 But maybe she's talking about the right, so-called, to kill, for mothers to kill their children. 0.61

00:20:26.580 I don't, but in the same breath, she says, and I want my child to be safe until we can come back to America.

00:20:33.060 So maybe she's talking about that.

00:20:34.540 But even more commonly right now, when we hear about this rights talk in the Democrat Party, it usually has to do with identity politics.

00:20:41.380 LGBT rights, the rights of transgender people especially.

00:20:45.720 That was a big talking point from the Democrats in this last election.

00:20:49.920 And it gets to one of the real sicknesses in American politics that's been building for many, many decades now, which is the, really, maybe centuries now, which is the obsession with rights talk.

00:21:01.300 That if you went into the ancient world, you wouldn't hear a lot of political debates about rights.

00:21:08.300 In the Middle Ages, you didn't hear a lot of political debates about rights.

00:21:10.640 You heard debates about justice.

00:21:12.040 You heard debates about natural law.

00:21:14.100 You heard debates about obligations.

00:21:15.440 You heard debates about freedom and liberty in the sense of a polity's right to a proper sovereignty.

00:21:24.100 But you didn't hear all this, like, rights talk.

00:21:25.660 And increasingly, you hear all sorts of claims of rights, which reminds me of a line from the political philosopher John Gray, who says, the rights talk is not really legal.

00:21:38.720 It's not about making a claim that some legitimate liberty has been denied to someone over time.

00:21:49.600 But rather, it is, in his words, quote, political self-assertion of collective identities.

00:21:55.780 This is the key here, I think, to understanding all the rights talk.

00:21:58.880 It is political self-assertion of collective identities.

00:22:04.180 When we say LGBT rights, you know, the rights of gay people to get married, the normal response to that would be, everyone's always had the right to get married.

00:22:13.880 Gay people, this people, whatever people you want to say, everyone's had the right to get married.

00:22:18.020 It's just that marriage was always understood to mean the union of a man and a woman for order toward the begetting and education of children.

00:22:26.820 So to say the gay, the right to gay marriage is to change the definition of marriage. 0.81

00:22:31.560 But even more so, it's to assert that there is a collective identity known as the gays or the lesbians.

00:22:38.300 Or it's even clearer with transgenderism. 0.77

00:22:40.300 Sometimes you will hear pro-trans activists say that people like me deny their existence.

00:22:47.400 And then the conservatives respond and we say, no, we think you exist.

00:22:51.220 You manifestly exist.

00:22:52.200 You're right here before me speaking and breathing and taking up space.

00:22:55.880 But that's not what they mean.

00:22:57.980 When they say you're denying our existence, they don't mean you're denying our individual existence.

00:23:04.240 They mean you're denying our existence as a political group.

00:23:09.720 And on that point, they're right.

00:23:13.380 In that way, when they say we want trans rights, you need to accept our existence,

00:23:18.100 they're speaking less from political philosophy than from the kind of brute negotiations of a labor union.

00:23:24.260 You know, you will deal with us.

00:23:25.840 We are a thing.

00:23:26.980 We're a power.

00:23:27.640 We're a force.

00:23:28.840 That's what it's really about.

00:23:31.360 And so they have a point there because we would say, no, no, there is no such category,

00:23:37.160 political category as transgender people because that asserts a false account of human nature.

00:23:43.900 It's not really possible for man to be a woman or to be born in the wrong body or whatever.

00:23:48.260 So, yeah, we deny the political collective existence of that group.

00:23:52.120 We don't deny your existence as an individual.

00:23:54.500 We just think you're mistaken about human nature.

00:23:57.820 That's what all the rights talk is about.

00:23:59.460 So what it's really about is hiding political disagreement in the guise of legal language.

00:24:07.340 And what it does in practice is it takes legitimate political debates that should be fought out in the legislature or among citizens.

00:24:14.040 It moves them to the courts and it forces activist lawyers to rewrite the law and pretend that this is a matter of legality and right when, in fact, it's just ordinary political debates that are taken out of the sphere of the political, taken away from the people to decide through self-government.

00:24:33.360 And when they lose those battles, then I guess people like Rosie O'Donnell are going to take themselves out of the country. 1.00

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00:26:12.200 Speaking of leftist identity, Ben & Jerry's has come out in favor of another lib cause.

00:26:19.880 Okay, we all know Ben & Jerry's are big libs.

00:26:22.980 This one, though, seems beyond the pale.

00:26:27.860 Ben & Jerry's posts on social media,

00:26:29.960 Today is National Abortion Provider Appreciation Day.

00:26:34.500 We stand with abortion providers today and every day.

00:26:39.860 Learn more and take action now.

00:26:42.780 And then they have a picture.

00:26:44.860 Abortion care providers are being threatened across the country.

00:26:48.580 Here's why we need to stand with them today and every day.

00:26:50.440 This is an ice cream company.

00:26:52.720 Who eats ice cream?

00:26:54.700 Everyone eats ice cream.

00:26:56.060 Ice cream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. 0.98

00:26:57.580 Who primarily eats ice cream?

00:27:00.520 Little kids.

00:27:02.760 This is maybe the most ghastly aspect of this post.

00:27:07.360 They're saying, hey, everyone, celebrate the people who murder,

00:27:11.540 specifically our customers.

00:27:12.760 We all know Ben & Jerry's are libs.

00:27:17.520 We can look past the Bernie simping.

00:27:19.980 They do Bernie ice cream.

00:27:21.300 You know, we can look past all the hippie gimmicks on their packaging

00:27:24.660 because the ice cream is perfectly fine.

00:27:26.480 The open celebration of murderers of the most innocent, vulnerable people in the world,

00:27:37.280 that's a step too far for me.

00:27:39.480 They're not even saying celebrate women and women's rights.

00:27:42.780 They're not even using all the euphemisms that the left usually uses.

00:27:45.860 They're just coming out saying, we celebrate abortionists.

00:27:49.020 The guys with the forceps and the knives and the poison, 0.99

00:27:51.420 we celebrate them because they murder babies. 0.94

00:27:54.600 I can't. 0.99

00:27:56.220 This is so psycho.

00:27:59.660 This is such psycho behavior from Ben & Jerry's. 1.00

00:28:02.420 I can never eat their garbage again. 0.93

00:28:06.180 I don't call for boycotts a lot because if you try to call for boycotts all the time,

00:28:10.880 they don't generally work.

00:28:12.000 And I recognize that if you want to participate in the economy at all,

00:28:16.820 often that requires some kind of extremely remote cooperation with evil at least.

00:28:22.360 This is too much.

00:28:23.540 This is too much.

00:28:24.840 This is complete psycho behavior. 0.96

00:28:26.740 No person of good conscience could possibly eat their garbage again.

00:28:31.140 Ben & Jerry's is completely dead to me. 0.96

00:28:33.500 It should be dead to you.

00:28:34.980 There should be a nationwide boycott.

00:28:36.720 Their company should go out of business for this, for their missteps.

00:28:41.520 This is horrifying.

00:28:45.000 It reveals a degree of moral depravity on the part of the people who run this company that even I did not expect.

00:28:55.040 And I had low expectations of these people.

00:28:56.920 It is absolutely revolting.

00:28:58.600 And now, because of what they've posted, I find their ice cream, which previously I thought tasted just fine.

00:29:04.940 It's not my favorite ice cream.

00:29:05.900 It's not the worst ice cream.

00:29:06.780 It's perfectly fine tasting ice cream previously.

00:29:09.040 I am so revolted by their extreme degeneracy and wickedness that I cannot eat another bite of their ice cream.

00:29:18.380 And there should be a nationwide boycott. 0.65

00:29:20.240 And that company should be driven out of business by a lack of customers because of their disgusting and profoundly evil actions.

00:29:32.060 Okay.

00:29:33.480 Now, speaking of confusion, there's a lot of confusion in our culture.

00:29:38.600 I mentioned to you at the top of the show, there was a big dust up in Congress.

00:29:42.680 Because a Republican member of Congress referred to a Democrat member of Congress, who is a man, as a mister.

00:29:51.340 That's how members refer to it.

00:29:52.760 Well, mister.

00:29:54.060 So, he does this.

00:29:56.960 Then the Democrat member of Congress makes a little snide remark about it.

00:30:01.700 And then another Democrat member of Congress makes up, he starts popping blood vessels, basically, because the Republican referred to a man as mister.

00:30:09.280 If you didn't see the clip, take a look.

00:30:11.320 I now recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.

00:30:17.840 Thank you, Madam Chair.

00:30:19.520 Ranking member Keating, also wonderful.

00:30:21.660 Mr. Chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please?

00:30:25.360 Yes.

00:30:26.060 It's a, it's a, we have set the standard on the floor of the House.

00:30:31.160 And I'm simply.

00:30:32.580 What is that standard, Mr. Chairman?

00:30:35.640 Would you repeat what you just said?

00:30:37.160 When you introduced a duly elected representative from the United States of America, please?

00:30:42.820 I will.

00:30:44.080 The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.

00:30:47.520 Mr. Chairman, you are out of order.

00:30:51.460 Mr. Chairman, have you no decency?

00:30:54.420 I mean, I've come to know you a little bit, but this is not decent.

00:30:57.800 We will continue this.

00:30:58.980 You will not continue it with me unless you introduce a duly elected representative the

00:31:03.780 right way.

00:31:06.480 This hearing is adjourned.

00:31:10.880 We're joined now by Representative Keith Self.

00:31:16.060 Congressman, thank you very much for taking the time to come on the show.

00:31:19.260 You bet.

00:31:20.560 Congressman, am I watching a proceeding of the United States Congress, or am I watching a

00:31:25.780 Monty Python sketch?

00:31:28.080 Well, that was a hearing in the United States Congress, so absolutely.

00:31:32.660 I tried to introduce our last speaker on the panel, and you just played the clip of what

00:31:38.660 happened.

00:31:39.640 So, for the background, for people who don't know, there is a representative who was just

00:31:43.880 elected from Delaware, Tim McBride.

00:31:45.760 He calls himself Sarah now, and he says that he's a woman.

00:31:49.520 And there are plenty of people in America who do that these days because there's a lot of

00:31:53.120 confusion.

00:31:54.220 However, just because someone says that he is the opposite sex doesn't mean that he has

00:32:01.500 the right to force other people to lie.

00:32:04.040 It's one thing to say, you know, I'm Sally, call me she, but I can't force someone to lie.

00:32:10.160 And this was decided, as you mentioned, by the House.

00:32:13.900 Now that we have the first trans-identifying member of the House, we have to figure out, 0.90

00:32:18.280 do we call them by their real sex?

00:32:22.180 Do we call them by their imagined sex?

00:32:24.420 What is the right thing to do?

00:32:25.680 And so, as you, I think we're alluding to there, the House has come to a decision on

00:32:29.700 this.

00:32:29.960 What did the House conclude?

00:32:32.060 Well, it wasn't the House, but Mary Miller introduced Mr. McBride on the floor of the

00:32:37.300 House the first time he was introduced anywhere in Congress as Mr. McBride.

00:32:41.460 He made absolutely no complaint whatsoever.

00:32:44.960 Now, the congressional record was wrong, and we had to go back in and convince the congressional

00:32:50.700 recorder to change the congressional record to what was actually said.

00:32:55.240 So, this is a fight that has started, and that's what I referenced, is we've set the

00:33:00.360 standard now in the congressional record that Mr. McBride will be referred to as Mr. McBride.

00:33:07.260 So, simple enough.

00:33:08.780 It seems to me that that establishes the standard, even if there's not some big bill or something

00:33:12.580 like that.

00:33:12.980 You say, okay, it's in the congressional record.

00:33:15.340 No one's made a big hullabaloo about this.

00:33:17.280 We consciously fought this out, and it bears on common sense.

00:33:22.220 Why does it matter?

00:33:23.140 What do you say to your Democrat colleague there, the ranking member who starts raising

00:33:27.960 his voice, threatens to walk out of the proceeding because you referred to a man as Mr.?

00:33:32.920 What do you say to those people who say, it is disrespectful for you to call a man who

00:33:38.740 thinks he's a woman Mr.? 0.84

00:33:40.100 Well, Michael, I'm a retired Green Beret.

00:33:44.320 I'm not even sure what all the fuss is about.

00:33:47.560 I mean, he is allowed to live his life.

00:33:49.920 In fact, I spent 25 years on active duty defending his right to live his life as he chooses.

00:33:55.900 But I don't have to participate in his fantasy.

00:33:59.520 So, I am under no obligation to participate in something that he chooses to portray himself as.

00:34:07.200 I also wonder if part of the reason the Democrats are making such a big deal about this is they know that this is a live political issue, that the transgender issue, you know, can a man really become a woman?

00:34:21.440 If that's true, then can little children become the opposite sex? 1.00

00:34:24.720 Should we push this stuff in school?

00:34:26.140 Should we permit kids to go on puberty blockers that could lead to sterilization, early death, all the rest?

00:34:31.860 I mean, these are live political, should men play in women's sports, very live political questions, big in the last election.

00:34:37.360 I wonder if the ranking member there, the Democrat, or Mr. McBride, who jokingly referred to you as Madam Speaker, to kind of zing you there.

00:34:45.420 If they realize that, the reason these words matter so much is the minute that you or any other Republican refers to this man as Miss or Madam or Mrs. or something, then you have implicitly accepted the transgender ideology and the whole debate is over.

00:35:03.680 Absolutely.

00:35:04.780 You just articulated perfectly the position that we should take as a society.

00:35:09.500 They are allowed to live their life, but the damage that they are doing to our children, we must realize, where are the Democrats when a young lady gets injured by a male playing in a volleyball game?

00:35:24.560 They don't have a word to say about it.

00:35:27.000 So this is what we have got to stand against.

00:35:29.280 And if Congress doesn't stand against it, who is going to?

00:35:33.200 We are viewed as national leaders of some sort, and we need to make the standard that we will not participate in this fantasy that they try to say that a man can become a woman.

00:35:45.860 President Trump has just said the policy of the United States is there are two genders, a man and a woman.

00:35:52.600 Those are immutable.

00:35:53.920 Congressman, before I let you go, I have to ask about some of your colleagues on the Republican side because you can never underestimate the ability of Republicans in Congress to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

00:36:06.580 So even though I think most Americans are on the side of common sense on this issue, where do your Republican colleagues stand?

00:36:13.360 Do you think that your colleagues, all the way up to leadership, all the way up to Speaker Johnson, will stand on the side of reality and common sense and hold the line on calling men, mister, and women, miss or missus?

00:36:24.660 Or are people going to give in to the trans ideology?

00:36:28.780 Well, I've gotten many very positive comments from colleagues and across America.

00:36:35.040 Not every place in America, but most of America, and certainly my constituents in Texas.

00:36:41.960 But yes, look, Mike Johnson is a very fine gentleman.

00:36:46.180 I know that he will stand on the side of truth.

00:36:49.640 Now, I'm not going to promise that every Republican will do that because I can't tell you that.

00:36:54.720 But I think the majority absolutely will because the Republican Party stands on the side of truth.

00:37:01.480 And that is that there is a man and there is a woman and we cannot budge on that issue. 0.99

00:37:07.320 If we budge on it, we have given up a tremendous amount of ground on the issue.

00:37:12.180 And as you said, it was one of the primary issues in the last election.

00:37:16.460 We've got to remember that.

00:37:17.880 We've got to stand firm.

00:37:19.240 Now, we have won.

00:37:20.820 We have the trifecta.

00:37:22.200 Let's stand firm.

00:37:23.360 Absolutely right.

00:37:25.580 If the moral aspect of it, if the justice aspect of it won't convince Republicans, at least recognize it's a political winner too, fellas.

00:37:34.220 Don't throw your political prospects out too.

00:37:36.860 Congressman, not at all surprised that a longtime Green Beret would stand up with some courage and stand up for what's right. 0.69

00:37:44.220 I hope that you're right, that the rest of your colleagues will do that.

00:37:48.440 It's a really, really important issue.

00:37:50.400 The left tries to minimize it, but they know there is a lot in a pronoun.

00:37:55.560 There's a lot in a name.

00:37:56.500 There's a lot in a word.

00:37:57.880 And words have meaning.

00:37:59.620 And we need to stand for the truth.

00:38:01.520 Congressman, thank you so much for taking the time.

00:38:03.660 Thank you.

00:38:04.420 All right.

00:38:05.740 Now, there's so much more to get to.

00:38:08.380 You've probably seen the headlines.

00:38:10.100 The Daily Wire has stirred up the usual crazy libs on CNN, MSNBC,

00:38:15.520 talking about a new effort to pardon Derek Chauvin.

00:38:19.560 No matter how much the new Trump administration works to undo the damage caused by Biden and Harris over the last four years,

00:38:24.340 the woke movement in America will never truly be over until this injustice is righted.

00:38:29.820 Derek Chauvin did not get a fair trial.

00:38:31.900 He was railroaded to appease the mob.

00:38:33.520 President Trump has power over the federal part of Chauvin's charges.

00:38:36.020 There are also state charges.

00:38:37.060 But he needs to hear loud and clear that the American people want action.

00:38:40.040 Go to PardonDerek.com right now.

00:38:41.660 Sign the petition.

00:38:42.160 When we fight, we win.

00:38:43.880 With your support, we can do it again.

00:38:45.360 My favorite comment yesterday is from 5% Low Battery.

00:38:49.180 What a great name.

00:38:49.880 It says, quote,

00:38:52.360 Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems.

00:38:57.020 Throw away the solution and you get the problem back.

00:39:01.000 Donald Kingsbury courtship right.

00:39:04.520 So true.

00:39:06.400 You know, on the right, especially in America, we hear a lot of talk about how our, you know, our politics all comes down to freedom or liberty or whatever, you know, whatever.

00:39:17.480 And it's true, though, often people misunderstand what freedom and liberty really mean.

00:39:20.340 But for me, an even more important touchstone, tradition.

00:39:25.960 Tradition.

00:39:26.580 It's very good.

00:39:27.260 It's central to the conservative understanding of the world.

00:39:31.560 Don't, don't we, look, new things can be fine.

00:39:35.800 We, you know, we can improve our society and ourselves.

00:39:39.320 But don't throw out that tradition.

00:39:41.760 It's a set of solutions for problems that we no longer remember.

00:39:45.480 That's really, really good.

00:39:47.340 Now, speaking of the future, speaking of innovators like Elon Musk, the libs are losing it over the supposed threat that Trump is causing to the economy and the world or that Elon Musk is posing to our government.

00:40:05.820 And they're speaking in increasingly violent terms about it.

00:40:09.600 Sonny Hauston on The View said that Trump, the threat of Trump is not only a threat to the country, it's an existential threat.

00:40:18.680 And Democrats need to fight and be willing to die to stop it.

00:40:24.420 Ten Democrats voted to censure Green.

00:40:28.260 Wow.

00:40:29.080 Do you want to, do you want to elicit the ten?

00:40:31.220 Do you want to hear their name?

00:40:32.140 Yes, I do.

00:40:33.880 Why go after them, too?

00:40:35.400 Go after the Republicans.

00:40:36.340 They don't know how to fight and be part of an opposition party.

00:40:41.940 Representative Green gave them the example.

00:40:44.840 The Democrats are not meeting the moment.

00:40:47.640 It is very clear that Medicaid is on the table.

00:40:50.200 It is very clear that Social Security is on the table.

00:40:52.280 It is very clear that people will die.

00:40:54.280 The baby boomers, the civil rights generation, they knew what they had to do.

00:40:58.380 They were willing to fight and die for their rights.

00:41:01.200 This generation of Congress, they are not meeting the moment.

00:41:04.880 This is an existential threat.

00:41:08.180 Trump's an existential threat.

00:41:09.880 Democrats need to fight. 0.97

00:41:11.080 Democrats need to be willing to die. 0.98

00:41:14.100 Translation, if you got lost in that sea of invective, is Democrats should become violent and they are justified in murdering Trump. 0.99

00:41:23.120 That's what she's saying. 0.99

00:41:23.700 If someone poses an existential threat to you, that is a justification for your killing that person. 0.61

00:41:31.660 That's why there have been multiple assassination attempts on Trump, one of which came within a 20th of an inch of blowing his head off because of that kind of language. 0.95

00:41:41.080 Furthermore, if you were at all confused, Sonny Hostin says, if you don't understand what I'm saying, you need to fight and you need to be willing to die.

00:41:49.060 So it's not even speaking rhetorically.

00:41:51.220 She's speaking quite literally. 0.97

00:41:52.640 You need to commit violence against Republicans because if you are to die in a fight, that would entail violence.

00:42:02.200 So she's not really hiding the ball on this at all.

00:42:06.140 However, we've heard all this before.

00:42:09.140 If you're going to call on Democrats to try to murder Trump and engage in political violence, I don't know, at least be original about it.

00:42:15.380 But this is the same thing we heard, not just from these chattering heads on The View, but also from Biden and Harris.

00:42:23.480 In fact, this was the premise of Biden's campaign.

00:42:26.060 Trump poses an existential threat to democracy.

00:42:28.200 We need to stop.

00:42:28.740 So it was all the same stuff.

00:42:30.060 And it didn't work.

00:42:30.780 It just didn't work.

00:42:32.180 It feels so dated.

00:42:33.300 The way that Sonny Hostin here is talking, there are real threats to Medicare and Social Security and Medicaid.

00:42:39.320 Lady, is it 2011?

00:42:41.020 That's such 2011 energy.

00:42:43.320 Trump has run.

00:42:45.140 He's irritated a lot of Republicans, in fact, because he's run consistently saying, I will not touch entitlements.

00:42:50.860 I will not touch Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.

00:42:53.220 Ain't going to happen.

00:42:55.020 Plenty of Republicans have said, no, you should because that'll help solve our debt problem.

00:42:57.840 It's not, it's just so, it's like these people are on autopilot.

00:43:01.780 It's like they just don't have any new ideas, which is why Van Jones is saying the Democrat Party is a nightmare right now.

00:43:09.000 Because this is the best they got.

00:43:10.140 The best they got is repeating scaremongering, is repeating a political plan from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, who went down in total flames in November, the political plan to go murder Trump.

00:43:22.200 And to repeat economic talking points from the Romney campaign, from the Obama presidency, is just so, of course, that's a nightmare.

00:43:33.100 They got nothing, man.

00:43:34.960 Very, it's wrong.

00:43:36.860 What she's doing is immoral. 1.00

00:43:38.660 But it's also just so stupid because it clearly hasn't worked. 1.00

00:43:43.000 Democrats lost the popular vote for the first time in 20 years because of these kinds of talking points. 0.99

00:43:47.420 What are we going to do?

00:43:47.960 We're going to, we're just going to keep it up, I guess.

00:43:50.780 I guess we'll just keep trying to do it.

00:43:53.040 Okay.

00:43:54.760 Speaking of death, there's a story I want to get to that we haven't gotten to.

00:43:57.660 It's a story from two or three weeks ago.

00:44:03.000 70 Christians were massacred in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

00:44:07.300 Okay.

00:44:07.600 This is a, we've got a story.

00:44:10.160 Do we have the story here?

00:44:11.080 I guess we don't.

00:44:11.760 From the Associated Press.

00:44:12.840 Well, luckily, I've got at least a little phrase from it here.

00:44:17.000 Open doors, field sources say the violence began at 4 a.m. on February 13th as militants

00:44:24.920 captured and tied up some 20 Christians in the community of Maybach.

00:44:28.660 The militants were suspected to be members of the Allied Democratic Forces, a rebel group

00:44:33.040 with ties to ISIS, to the Islamic State.

00:44:35.460 They captured, they captured about 50 other Christians, tied them all up, and they took 0.99

00:44:40.380 the 70 Christians to a Protestant church in Kasanga, where they were all killed inside

00:44:45.880 with machetes and hammers.

00:44:50.440 Very few people have covered this story.

00:44:53.280 And there have been reports of other Christian persecutions, and there was actually a study,

00:44:57.440 I believe it was by Pew Research, which showed that Christianity is the most persecuted religion

00:45:01.860 in the world.

00:45:02.760 That remains true.

00:45:05.280 I think it's very important to shed light on this while we're talking about various identity

00:45:09.800 groups and rights and the American empire and the shifting of the global order.

00:45:15.040 It seems to be, whatever the political shift in recent decades, Christians are persecuted.

00:45:21.640 They're subject to more persecution.

00:45:23.580 In Iraq, in Syria, throughout the Levant, in Africa, well, in America, actually, because 0.96

00:45:31.160 the Biden, not to say that they're being rounded up, not to really draw much of a comparison,

00:45:35.480 but there is political persecution of Christians in America under Joe Biden, who would spy on

00:45:38.980 their churches, who would arrest them for praying and demonstrating outside of abortion

00:45:43.460 mills, same thing in the United Kingdom.

00:45:44.880 So this is a global phenomenon, and it's a major problem because, as I've said on this

00:45:50.600 show many times, quoting Cardinal Manning, all politics ultimately is theological.

00:45:54.560 There was that clip that went viral yesterday.

00:45:56.000 People are still talking about it, from Sarah Stock, saying that America is grounded in

00:46:00.420 Christianity, in large part in Christianity.

00:46:03.480 And the liberal that she was debating on the Jubilee podcast, Sam Sater, said, no, that's

00:46:08.140 not true.

00:46:08.660 It has nothing to do with Europe.

00:46:09.920 It has nothing to do with Christianity.

00:46:11.060 And it obviously does.

00:46:13.080 Until 1960, 93% of Americans were Christian.

00:46:16.800 So when we're asking what's the new world order going to look like, ultimately, you got to

00:46:21.280 get down to this question, what do we believe?

00:46:22.880 What do we believe most fundamentally?

00:46:25.360 What do we stand for?

00:46:27.460 Increasing Christian persecution, not a good sign for the world order.

00:46:30.080 Okay.

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