The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1692 - Democrats' Government Shutdown EXPLAINED in 5 Minutes

00:00:00.000 It's official. We are most likely headed for a government shutdown at midnight tomorrow,

00:00:05.480 as Senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer has rejected the Republican proposal to fund the

00:00:10.520 government. Because even though Republicans control the House and the Senate, they need

00:00:15.020 60 votes in the Senate to fund the government, which would require seven Democrats to come over

00:00:20.760 if all the Republicans were in favor. It actually requires eight because Rand Paul is voting no on

00:00:27.060 the grounds that Republicans are spending too much money. And Rand Paul has a point.

00:00:31.800 Republicans did not really make any cuts to the budget. Now, they didn't increase spending.

00:00:37.180 Spending normally increases sometimes by a lot. They didn't do that, but they didn't cut the budget

00:00:42.240 either. They agreed off the bat to keep funding levels almost exactly the same as they were in

00:00:48.280 2024. The Republicans were more than willing to compromise with Democrats. And still, that is

00:00:55.600 not good enough for Democrats who had this to say.

00:00:59.080 The last thing Americans need right now is a pointless government shutdown.

00:01:05.100 A shutdown will hurt just about every American.

00:01:07.960 The truth of this shutdown is that it's actually not about a wall. It is not about the border. And

00:01:15.320 it is certainly not about the well-being of everyday Americans. The truth is, this shutdown is about

00:01:22.440 the erosion of American democracy and the subversion of our most basic governmental norms.

00:01:29.440 It's a kind of dysfunction that is not about Democrats and Republicans fighting each other.

00:01:36.100 It's just Republicans who just can't seem to get their act together so that we do the most basic,

00:01:41.760 basic job of government. And that is fund it and keep it going. 0.99

00:01:45.560 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's not what Schumer and the Democrats had to say right now. That's what

00:01:50.500 Schumer and the Democrats said over many years when they could blame Republicans for government

00:01:55.520 shutdowns. Back then, government shutdowns were evil and a dereliction of duty and the end of our

00:02:01.500 democracy and a cause of endless suffering and death. But now that it's Democrats who are shutting

00:02:06.200 down the government, now government shutdowns are good and patriotic and normal and American as apple

00:02:14.640 pie. Funny how that works. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:17.460 Welcome back to the show. Major story out from CBS. Well, you were all focused on the millions and

00:02:45.140 millions of Hispanic illegal aliens crossing the border with the help of face-tattooed criminal 1.00

00:02:49.240 cartels for decades now. CBS News has the real story. The Irish illegal aliens. There's so much 0.99

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00:04:16.640 Chuck Schumer taking a lot of L's. Chuck Schumer has just weighed in on a story we talked about earlier

00:04:22.720 in the week, Mahmoud Khalil. Mahmoud Khalil was a Columbia graduate student. He graduated in December.

00:04:29.120 He led a lot of the pro-Palestine stuff on campus there and made life generally unpleasant for normal

00:04:36.980 people and especially for Jewish students. And now the Trump administration is revoking his visa

00:04:43.300 and telling him to get out of America. So this has divided people, even within party institutions.

00:04:52.120 Is this an assault on free speech? Is this just kicking terrorist sympathizers out of the country?

00:04:58.320 Is this just doing Israel's bidding and oversimplifying the Israel-Palestine conflict?

00:05:04.180 Is that, what is it? What should we deport Mahmoud Khalil? You can easily imagine people on the left

00:05:12.800 and the right in favor and against it. Well, one of the top Democrats in the country who is Jewish

00:05:18.820 himself, Chuck Schumer has weighed in and he is on Khalil's side. He does not want to deport Mahmoud Khalil.

00:05:26.280 Here's what he had to say. He wrote a novel basically about this. He wrote a war and peace

00:05:31.620 about this. I'll shorten it a little bit. Schumer writes, I abhor many of the opinions and policies

00:05:37.860 that Mahmoud Khalil holds and supports and have made my criticism of the anti-Semitic actions at

00:05:43.520 Columbia loudly known. Mr. Khalil is also a legal permanent resident here and his wife,

00:05:47.880 who's eight months pregnant, is an American citizen. While he may well be in violation of various

00:05:53.780 campus rules regarding how the protests were conducted, that's a matter for the university

00:05:58.060 to pursue. I have encouraged them to be much more robust in how they combat anti-Semitism and

00:06:06.300 maintain a harassment-free campus. The Trump admin must articulate criminal charges or facts that would

00:06:12.420 justify his detention or deportation. If the admin cannot prove he violated criminal law,

00:06:17.080 then it is wrong. They are violating the First Amendment protections we all enjoy. They should

00:06:23.240 drop this wrong-headed action. Okay. I now have enough information to conclude we should deport

00:06:31.700 Mahmoud Khalil. Previously, it was a little complicated. I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge

00:06:37.100 that debates over the First Amendment can be complex. It's not black and white. I wrote a whole

00:06:43.400 book about how debates over free speech and censorship are actually much more complex than

00:06:48.700 the left or the right make them out to be. So I'm totally willing to acknowledge that the Israel-Palestine 0.97

00:06:54.480 conflict is a difficult issue. It's thorny. It's complex. One can understand a multiplicity of

00:07:03.040 arguments. One cannot exactly understand supporting Hamas, but one can understand that there is a variety

00:07:08.420 of views on it. However, for me, for a fellow, maybe I'm a little thick in the head. I don't know

00:07:15.780 what it is. I don't understand all the nuances of the Israel-Palestine conflict. I don't know every

00:07:20.600 single line of the U.S. code pertaining to how we might deport legal residents who are not citizens,

00:07:26.560 who are on campus, who are engaging in these kinds of demonstrations. For me, I look around,

00:07:32.620 and I see if you are on the same side as Columbia graduate students and Islamist revolutionaries

00:07:41.100 and Chuck Schumer, you're just on the wrong side. I'm looking around at this, and I think this is

00:07:49.020 an important rule. Forget about Columbia. Forget about this particular issue. This is just a good

00:07:54.040 rule in politics. If you do not have, in your limited stock of reason, the ability to go through

00:07:58.960 every pro and con, every single angle of every single political issue, and you want to figure

00:08:03.600 out which side you come down on, look at the people who come down on each side. When I look

00:08:08.400 on the free Mahmoud Khalil, leave him in America, he's got the right to be here kind of side,

00:08:14.520 I see radical leftists. I see Ivy League graduate students, some of the most wrongheaded people in

00:08:22.180 the entire country as a generalization. I see Chuck Schumer. I see Islamist revolutionaries. I see 0.94

00:08:30.000 Greta Thunberg. I see the establishment media. I see the worst people in the country. I see the worst

00:08:35.720 people politically in the world, okay? They're on the side of, we support Mahmoud Khalil. Let him keep

00:08:43.080 waving his keffias or whatever around Columbia. And then when I look on the side of people who think

00:08:48.460 he should not be in the country, it's immigration restrictionists, it's Christians, it's the Trump

00:08:56.060 administration, it's people who do not particularly support Hamas or the Palestine liberation movement.

00:09:04.240 I don't know. It seems to me pretty clear, actually. I know it's a complex issue in the background,

00:09:09.320 but when I look at this particular instantiation of it, Chuck Schumer was enough to push me over the

00:09:14.180 edge. That's it. If all the worst people are on one side, generally speaking, 999 times out of 1,000,

00:09:21.240 probably you should be on the other side. Secretary of State Marco Rubio just weighed in on this very

00:09:27.760 issue. He was asked if the deportation proceedings against Mahmoud Khalil violate some constitutional

00:09:34.840 rights or specifically the First Amendment. Here's what he had to say.

00:09:37.200 Your revocation of the green card, to many, is seen as one of the most anti-speech

00:09:44.320 actions a secretary could take with his powers. How do you respond?

00:09:48.460 When you enter the, this is an important point, and I'm glad you asked this question.

00:09:51.780 When you come to the United States as a visitor, which is what a visa is, which is how this individual

00:09:56.420 entered this country, as a visitor's visa, you are here as a visitor. We can deny you that visa. 0.98

00:10:02.840 This is not about free speech. This is about people that don't have a right to be in the United 0.99

00:10:06.260 States to begin with. No one has a right to a student visa. No one has a right to a green card,

00:10:10.720 by the way. So when you apply for a student visa or any visa to enter the United States,

00:10:15.900 we have a right to deny you for virtually any reason. My estimation of Secretary Marco Rubio

00:10:21.900 is growing by the day. This is a beautiful way to articulate American liberty. He goes, hey,

00:10:30.300 nobody has the right to a visa. Nobody has the right to a green card. Some foreigner comes over 1.00

00:10:38.060 here and then demands to be treated with all of the privileges of an American citizen. No,

00:10:44.640 I don't think so. When you apply for a visa, we have the right to reject you for virtually any reason.

00:10:50.820 And if you don't benefit the country, if you kind of mess things up, like you cause mayhem on our

00:10:55.540 college campuses, we have the right to get rid of you. That's our right. This is a sturdy

00:11:03.320 understanding of political liberty. I talk about the classical and liberal versions of liberty on

00:11:10.920 the individual level. Well, this is a great way to understand it at the political level.

00:11:15.120 Liberty in the classical tradition and up through the Middle Ages would have been understood as the

00:11:20.780 right of a place to govern itself. The right of the Athenians not to be invaded and conquered and

00:11:28.800 have their women and children sold into slavery and their men slaughtered. That's what we would 1.00

00:11:33.420 have understood as liberty in the classical and medieval eras. Now we've totally lost a sense of

00:11:40.380 national liberty, of the liberty of a people. So now we pretend that foreigners all over the world 0.80

00:11:47.420 have the right to American citizenship, have the right to mess up our campuses, have the right to 1.00

00:11:53.180 jobs in America. They don't. We have rights. We have certain individual rights, sure. Frankly,

00:12:00.740 the rights language is really overblown, but we do have certain individual rights. But we also have

00:12:04.980 the collective right to be a country, okay? We don't need to put up with people who are not making 0.99

00:12:12.240 America better. Ask yourself this basic question. Does Mahmoud Khalil make America better or worse? 0.97

00:12:18.320 Obviously worse. He's wrong about a great many things. I don't even care what you think about

00:12:22.480 Israel-Palestine. He's wrong about a great many things. I'm willing to bet he's a Columbia graduate

00:12:27.040 student who's out there shrieking and screaming with a bunch of unwashed leftists. Why would we 0.68

00:12:32.900 keep him here? He's bad for America. Get rid of him. Many, many such cases, by the way. I think rather

00:12:40.180 than restrict this example of a muscular administration policy, I think maybe we need to

00:12:46.500 expand it, okay? We need to protect ourselves. There's so much more to say. First, though,

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00:14:46.760 Speaking of the Trump administration and foreign policy, amid the looming government shutdown and

00:14:54.740 amid debates over migration and America's leadership in the world, the prime minister of

00:14:59.400 Ireland just came to visit the White House. Trump was sitting with him in the Oval Office,

00:15:05.920 and the two of them got the greatest question I have heard of the second Trump administration,

00:15:12.060 and Trump himself gave the greatest answer. Ireland is known for very happy, fun-loving

00:15:19.780 people, great attitude, many in this room right now that I've met. Why in the world would you let

00:15:25.000 Rosie O'Donnell move to Ireland? I think she's going to lower your happiness level. 1.00

00:15:29.380 It's true. Thank you. I like that question.

00:15:32.580 Do you know who she is?

00:15:37.560 Yeah. I'm joking. You better off not. You better off not now.

00:15:44.100 We covered on the show yesterday. Rosie, to her credit, is, as far as I can tell, pretty much the 0.96

00:15:50.380 first big lib who threatened to leave America if Trump won and then actually left America,

00:15:55.620 and she moved to Ireland. She's trying to get her Irish citizenship. Every election, all the libs say,

00:16:00.700 we're going to flee the country if the Republican wins, and then they never do it. Rosie actually did it.

00:16:04.480 She goes to Ireland. So the Irish PM is there, and the reporter says, why on earth would you let

00:16:10.600 Rosie O'Donnell into your country? You have such a great country. Why would you let Rosie O'Donnell 0.58

00:16:14.000 in there? And the guy's looking at him. He has no idea who Rosie O'Donnell is. And Trump just got

00:16:17.720 smirk. Yeah, I like that question. Yeah, yeah. You don't know? It's better that you don't know.

00:16:22.660 It's better that you don't know. Move on.

00:16:24.440 President Trump began a feud with Rosie O'Donnell in like 2005 or earlier. This is a 20-year feud

00:16:39.020 with a TV host and movie actress, and he's still joking about it. He's not furious. He's not red in 0.85

00:16:47.780 the face. He's not attacking her. And he's just kind of making a joke about it, and he's keeping

00:16:52.700 it up. An important thing to remember about that feud, Rosie O'Donnell started that feud. It wasn't 1.00

00:16:57.780 Trump who started it. We can actually learn a fair bit about Trump from his answer to this

00:17:02.060 joke question. Rosie started the feud when she accused him on television of being bankrupt.

00:17:08.540 Trump. So Rosie started it, you know, hit him a little bit. Trump then escalated it to 11. He

00:17:17.260 turned the dial all the way up to 11, and he just ruthlessly, rhetorically pummeled this woman

00:17:21.940 for now going on, or over two decades, up to and including when he was in the Oval Office.

00:17:30.460 If you're Xi Jinping, if you're Vladimir Putin, I'm not saying that that kind of response

00:17:34.960 dictates your foreign policy. But it's helpful to remember that Trump doesn't forget he is loyal

00:17:40.200 to those who are loyal to him. He holds grudges against those who are not loyal to him. He has a

00:17:45.800 very long memory. He's not above getting down and fighting, even when he's meeting with a head of

00:17:52.320 state as president himself. And he's funny. He's a funny guy. Speaking of the Irish, CBS News has a

00:18:00.560 really earth-shattering report. This came out yesterday from Emmett Lyons, Joanne Stocker.

00:18:10.980 Irish undocumented and unsure of their future in Trump's America.

00:18:19.800 I won't read the whole article, but you understand there is a major scourge, according to CBS News,

00:18:26.600 of Irish undocumented immigrants, illegal aliens. You see, because while we all pay attention, 1.00

00:18:34.760 we foolishly pay attention to the millions of Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Ecuadorans, 0.64

00:18:42.900 who walk across the Rio Grande every year with the support of the face-tattooed, Satan-worshipping, 0.98

00:18:50.420 criminal Mexican cartels. We focus on that. We think that's the big illegal immigration problem. 0.92

00:18:55.840 But that means that we totally ignore the many, many Irishmen who swim across the Atlantic Ocean

00:19:02.640 and then shimmy up the pier at South Street Seaport and sneak into New York City.

00:19:07.420 How could we ignore that? Let's focus on the real problems, folks. I wonder how many Norwegians are 1.00

00:19:17.680 also, there must be two or three Norwegian illegal aliens, right, who sneak onto, I don't know,

00:19:25.480 salmon boats and get into our ports that way. Why are we focused on the Hispanic illegal aliens 1.00

00:19:31.180 just because they come over here to the tune of millions of people a year, 11 to 16 million in the

00:19:35.960 country illegally right now? Why, you know, let's get our priorities in order. What does CBS say? I'm not

00:19:40.680 going to read the whole article, though. It's pretty funny. Recent estimates from the Irish government

00:19:45.360 suggests there are as many as 10,000 undocumented Irish migrants across the United States.

00:19:52.860 10,000. 10,000. There are, conservatively, between 11 and 16 million illegal alien Hispanics

00:20:01.880 who cross the Rio Grande with the criminal cartels, bringing drugs, fentanyl, rape, crime into the country.

00:20:08.280 But there are 10,000 Irish people. A drop of a drop of a drop of a fraction of an iota of a drop in

00:20:16.940 the bucket of illegal immigration. Many have lived in the shadows for decades, waiting for a path to

00:20:22.860 citizenship that may never come. Now, as Trump deports people, anxieties have heightened. They

00:20:29.060 interview one Irish migrant. Mary, Mary, the illegal alien Mary, fears for her own status. She says 0.96

00:20:35.920 communities of color are bearing the brunt of President Trump's immigration crackdown while

00:20:40.560 she can fly somewhat under the radar. There are some very hardworking people that have set up

00:20:46.620 businesses and are employing people. And all of a sudden, you know, they're on a plane somewhere.

00:20:51.020 Their lives have changed and it's very hard. I absolutely do feel for people.

00:20:57.900 Another undocumented Irish, Aisling, says that the Irish sometimes become collateral damage during the

00:21:05.300 ICE raids. But they primarily target Latino communities, something she has condemned as

00:21:10.740 racist. Aisling says, if I swear to walk into my work, I could definitely just blend in with the

00:21:17.240 crowd. But the fear for me is getting pulled over or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

00:21:22.700 She is in the wrong. They're all in the wrong place at the wrong time. They're in America illegally 1.00

00:21:26.500 during the Trump administration. But what of the claim? What the whole point of this article,

00:21:30.380 the whole point of all these interviews is to say, ha ha, you racists, you racist Trump supporters, 0.99

00:21:36.920 you don't care when it's white Irish illegal aliens in America. You only care when it's 1.00

00:21:43.660 swarthier Hispanic illegal aliens. You're not. The Irish illegal aliens can fly under the radar. 1.00

00:21:52.820 That's true. Probably they can. I mean, you know, Irish illegal aliens do get rounded up in these

00:21:57.320 raids. That was true long before Trump, back when we enforced immigration law. That's true. You know,

00:22:00.820 Irish pubs in New York and things like that. But it's true. They can blend in a little bit more 0.98

00:22:05.160 because America until the 1960s was roughly 90 percent white, still majority white. And white people

00:22:13.960 are Irish people are white. And it's true that Hispanic people are not white. So they stick out a 1.00

00:22:19.740 little bit more, though. I don't think that President Trump is going in and rounding up Hispanics who are

00:22:24.240 wearing polo shirts, speaking perfect English, working ordinary jobs. No, no, no. He's going

00:22:29.300 into the places where we know that illegal aliens are. He's targeting in these raids. He's targeting

00:22:35.200 the kinds of illegal aliens who, you know, have face tattoos, deal drugs, run brothels, murder people. 0.97

00:22:42.020 So, yeah, you're right. It's easier for the Irish to blend in with the legal citizens. It's also 0.73

00:22:49.560 relatively easy for the legal Hispanic American citizens to blend in. Tom Holman knows who he's

00:22:55.520 going after here, okay? This is such desperation from the left. They know the jig is up. They know

00:23:05.620 that old Irish jig is up. And now their last gasp is, you're a racist? Look at the Irish, all those 0.84

00:23:13.600 Irish cartels that are here. There aren't. I don't see a lot of Irish cartels. There's so much more to

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00:24:31.480 rates may apply. Reply stop to opt out. Speaking of the law, huge story. I've been meaning to get to this

00:24:37.940 week. The Supreme Court is set to review the ban on conversion therapy, specifically in Colorado.

00:24:47.660 What is conversion therapy? Conversion therapy, we are told by the liberals,

00:24:53.540 is this evil, terrible, illegal, unconstitutional practice where people go to therapists and they

00:25:02.980 say, hey, I've got sexual attractions or a sexual identity that is causing me distress and I would like

00:25:09.340 to change that. And the therapists say, okay, I'll try to help you change that. That's conversion

00:25:15.580 therapy and that is illegal. So according to this piece from the Washington Examiner, Supreme Court

00:25:21.340 is going to review the legality of a Colorado law that prohibits licensed mental health professionals

00:25:27.300 from making any verbal attempts to dissuade a minor in particular from gravitating toward identifying as

00:25:33.800 a member of the LGBT community. One person who is challenging this law, Kaylee Chiles, is a licensed

00:25:41.240 counselor and a practicing Christian. She says that the law makes it impossible to persuade a child away

00:25:48.500 from making drastic changes to his identity, to his body, undergoing chemical or surgical procedures to

00:25:57.500 change his gender identity or to change his sexual orientation. She says that this law violates her

00:26:04.560 First Amendment rights and it unfairly restricts therapists from discussing certain viewpoints.

00:26:09.580 The key here is recognizing that the phrase conversion therapy is not a meaningful type of

00:26:17.400 psychiatry. It is a polemical term used by leftists in politics to prohibit psychiatrists and psychologists

00:26:26.760 and counselors from giving advice that they don't like. And the way that we know this for certain

00:26:33.100 is that all therapy is conversion therapy. All therapy is conversion therapy. All therapy,

00:26:42.400 what is the purpose of therapy? The purpose of therapy is to change for the better a patient's

00:26:52.400 self-conception and behavior. That's why people in principle go to therapy. They say, you know,

00:26:59.380 I'm engaging in some behavior that is bad for me. I've got an addiction or I am self-sabotaging or

00:27:06.260 I do things that cause me anxiety and distress and depression. So I'm going to go to the psychiatrist.

00:27:13.000 Why? To stay exactly the same? To not change their minds or behaviors about anything? No, no, no. To

00:27:19.040 improve. And the way that human beings improve is mental and or behavioral. And really the two are

00:27:26.960 related. That's why. Now I know that one objection is, what are you talking about, Michael? I know plenty

00:27:32.740 people who've gone to therapists for decades and they don't change their minds or behaviors about

00:27:36.300 anything. That's true. That is how the libs treat therapy now. They go and they just want to be

00:27:40.180 affirmed in all of their terrible views and behaviors. And then they're surprised when the

00:27:43.580 therapy doesn't make them any happier. But in principle, the purpose of therapy

00:27:47.300 is to change your views and your behavior. In other words, the purpose of therapy is conversion.

00:27:56.280 If a person, or let's get really specific on this law. If a minor walked into a therapist's office

00:28:05.140 said, I'm struggling with my gender identity. And the therapist said to this young boy, okay,

00:28:12.320 you're actually a girl. And what you should do is start referring to yourself as a girl and use

00:28:16.880 girls' pronouns. And you should go on puberty blockers. And then you should take chemicals to 1.00

00:28:23.440 not only delay your puberty, but actually appear more like the opposite sex. So you're going to 1.00

00:28:29.020 take cross-sex hormones. And then eventually you're going to lop your genitals off and sterilize 1.00

00:28:32.640 yourself. And you're going to be put on a medical regimen for the rest of your life that is likely to 0.98

00:28:37.020 cause bone loss and will likely shorten your life. And that way you're going to feel a lot better.

00:28:43.380 If the therapist did that, the therapist would be lauded by the liberal media, by the left.

00:28:48.780 But that seems like kind of a conversion to me. If a little boy comes into your office and says,

00:28:54.200 hey, I'm struggling with this psychological problem. And the psychologist says, okay,

00:28:59.400 hey, little boy, you're going to be a little girl now. That seems like a pretty big conversion,

00:29:03.000 wouldn't you say? That is not banned on the conversion therapy band. The only thing that is

00:29:07.820 banned is if a minor, if a 17-year-old comes in and says, hey, I'm a boy, but I don't know,

00:29:13.500 I get these weird thoughts sometimes that I'm a girl. And if the psychologist says, okay,

00:29:17.500 well, you're not a girl, you're a boy. And some reasons that those thoughts might enter your mind

00:29:21.720 are, I don't know, do you look at a lot of pornography? Do you have unresolved issues with

00:29:28.240 familial relationships? Do you have any unresolved sexual trauma? I just want you to know, you're not

00:29:34.180 really a girl, but we're going to try to get to the root of this so that we can alleviate your

00:29:37.580 anxiety and depression and suicidality. That would be illegal. Or heaven forfend,

00:29:43.540 if someone came in and said, hey, I'm experiencing attractions that are causing me distress,

00:29:49.360 like same-sex attractions that are causing me distress, and I'd like to try to figure out 1.00

00:29:54.860 some ways to resolve that. If the therapist said, okay, well, here are some things you could do.

00:29:57.920 You could recognize that that is disordered. You could be chased. You could whatever,

00:30:05.440 stop looking at pornography. Do you have some kind of unresolved trauma? Do you have this,

00:30:08.660 that or the other thing? If a psychologist did that, that psychologist would lose his license,

00:30:13.360 might be prosecuted. So you got to ask yourself, regardless of what you think about transgenderism,

00:30:19.860 homosexuality, whatever, any of the things that are pertinent to the conversion therapy,

00:30:26.360 the thing you got to ask yourself is, is it really the place for the government to say that

00:30:30.800 psychologists are allowed to give some advice, but not other advice? Is it really the place of the

00:30:35.940 government that says that the psychologists are allowed to encourage aberrant behaviors that are

00:30:42.500 correlated in social science with bad outcomes, but the psychologists are not allowed to encourage

00:30:50.120 normal behaviors that are correlated in the social science with good outcomes? It doesn't make any sense

00:30:57.400 at all. It just seems like what the government is doing here, what the leftists are doing here,

00:31:03.740 is they're saying, we are going to ban normal conservative behaviors, or at least normal

00:31:09.120 conservative advice in a medical setting. Pretty crazy to me, man. Okay. Now, speaking of conversions,

00:31:18.700 big changes, President Trump appears to be on the precipice of a ceasefire in Ukraine.

00:31:26.240 Here is Secretary of State Marco Rubio explaining that potential ceasefire.

00:31:30.640 Today, we've made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which is to enter into a ceasefire 0.95

00:31:36.100 and into immediate negotiations to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable

00:31:41.620 and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability to prosper as a nation.

00:31:46.780 I want to personally thank, we both want to thank the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,

00:31:50.260 His Majesty, for hosting us, for making this possible. They've been instrumental in this process,

00:31:54.020 and we're very grateful to them for hosting us here today. And hopefully we'll take this offer now to the

00:31:59.080 Russians. And we hope that they'll say yes, that they'll say yes to peace. The ball's now in their

00:32:03.160 court. But again, the President's objective here is, number one, above everything else,

00:32:08.640 he wants the war to end. And I think today Ukraine has taken a concrete step in that regard. We hope

00:32:13.480 the Russians will reciprocate.

00:32:15.860 Okay. So Trump, he gets the Ukrainians in line. We're going to do a peace deal. The Ukrainians are

00:32:21.740 kicking and screaming, coming to the table. You remember Zelensky made that big sensation in the Oval

00:32:27.960 office, picks a fight with J.D. Vance. Later, according to President Trump's special envoy to

00:32:34.540 the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, later Zelensky sent an apology letter to Trump. So they get back on

00:32:39.600 a decent relationship. But Trump's got them at the table. And now he says, okay, the ball is in

00:32:46.900 Russia's court. What does Russia do? Yesterday, Putin shows up in Kursk, the one Russian territory that

00:32:53.980 the Ukrainians have managed to invade and capture. He shows up to Kursk in military fatigues.

00:33:01.000 He doesn't look like this guy's ready for peace. I don't know. It looks like this guy's ready to

00:33:05.460 personally lead troops into battle. Just a big middle finger or whatever the offensive salute

00:33:11.800 is in Russia at President Trump. So ironically, what you had, what you are still having from the

00:33:19.800 liberal media and the squish Republicans and the people who just haven't been paying attention to 0.87

00:33:23.820 Trump for a decade now, is you had them saying, this Trump, he's going to give up Ukraine for no

00:33:30.200 reason. We're not going to get anything out of this. We will have wasted a bunch of money there.

00:33:34.500 The Ukrainians will have died for nothing. He's going to give all this territory to Putin. 0.98

00:33:38.380 He's sucking up to the Russians. He's upending and destroying the global order. But what are you 0.99

00:33:44.480 more likely to get? Well, right now, looks like by Trump securing the mineral deal in Ukraine,

00:33:52.960 it looks like you have America more committed to Ukraine because America now has an incentive to

00:33:58.200 support Ukraine. Looks like you've got more Americans in Ukraine, maybe not in military fatigues,

00:34:04.540 but more Americans who are going to have to develop that minerals industry, the mining operation.

00:34:10.140 And it looks like you've got Trump and Russia at loggerheads, not necessarily coming closer

00:34:17.300 together, but Russia rejecting saying yet to that piece that Trump offers. And you might potentially

00:34:23.500 have Trump deepening America's ties to this war. I'm not saying that is guaranteed to happen. I'm just

00:34:29.880 saying that is the exact opposite of what all of the Ukraine hawks have been whining and crying about

00:34:35.220 for the past few weeks. But look at how it's worked out. And by the way, you are even seeing this in Trump's

00:34:41.680 European policy. The libs have been screaming and crying that Trump is going to destroy NATO and the

00:34:49.440 Atlantic Alliance and Europe is going to fall prey to Putin. What happened? We're now getting a story, this

00:34:55.900 out of the Telegraph, that Trump is considering pulling troops out of Germany, something like 35,000 troops, and not

00:35:02.220 bringing them home, putting them in Hungary. I love Hungary. I plan to be in Hungary within a month or 0.98

00:35:07.840 two. Trump saying, look, we're going to pull the troops out of Germany. Oh no, he's giving up on

00:35:12.740 Europe. He's giving up on NATO. What happened to America's leadership in the world? And he's putting

00:35:15.940 them in Hungary, potentially. That's closer to Russia. That's in a country that Russia would be far 0.90

00:35:23.860 more likely to invade, that Russia in fact has invaded and that the Soviet Union dominated for the back half

00:35:28.860 of the 20th century. Hold on. You're accusing Trump of just surrendering to Putin. If anything,

00:35:36.360 he seems to be tougher on Putin than the Democrats have been. But he's tougher in a smarter way that is

00:35:41.100 more likely to secure peace and to secure American interests. It's the same thing they said with the

00:35:46.140 Russia hoax. Oh, Trump, he's a secret KGB sleeper cell, Manchurian candidate. He gives Putin everything

00:35:51.340 he wants. On Trump's watch, that would be the only administration in the last 20 years during which

00:35:59.560 Putin has not further invaded another country. Putin invaded Georgia under Bush. He invaded Crimea

00:36:04.380 under Obama. He stopped under Trump. He went further into Ukraine under Biden. I don't know. I give the

00:36:10.660 guy a little bit of credit. Seems like a pretty wise foreign policy to me, but we got to wait and see.

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00:36:46.700 yesterday is from Stray1239 who says, how many people who said they were going to leave the

00:36:52.480 country if Trump got elected actually did? Only Rosie O'Donnell. Wow. That is a full circle

00:37:00.180 of Trump's comment during a primary debate that may have won him, may have won him the GOP nomination. 1.00

00:37:06.900 You remember Megyn Kelly asked, Mr. Trump, you've called women fat, pigs, disgusting, slob. She's 1.00

00:37:13.520 going on. And he interrupts her. He says, only Rosie O'Donnell. And he just stole the show with

00:37:21.980 that line. And now it's full circle. How many Libs have actually fled the country? Only Rosie O'Donnell. 0.93

00:37:29.300 Now, speaking of confused liberal women, Elizabeth Warren, you know, has spent much of her career 1.00

00:37:37.360 describing herself as a Native American. She is the whitest woman you've ever seen, whiter than the freshly 1.00

00:37:44.740 driven snow. And yet she pretended to be an Indian. She pretended to be an Indian to get her job at 1.00

00:37:51.660 Harvard. She pretended to be an Indian when she submitted white people recipes to an Indian cookbook 0.99

00:37:57.820 called Pow Wow Chow. She then, when she was called out on pretending to be an Indian, she took a DNA test and

00:38:04.360 found that she was very likely something like one 1024th Native American. And she cited that as

00:38:12.920 evidence that she was, in fact, an American Indian, feather, not dot. And most people laughed at that

00:38:19.320 and said, well, you lady, you are, you are as white as can be. Well, Democrats, as the government shutdown

00:38:25.920 looms, as we have two major wars going on around the world, Ukraine and in Israel, as we have the

00:38:36.520 economy sputtering, Democrats are focused on the real important issues. Jamie Raskin, Democrat in

00:38:41.200 Congress, focused on the real important issue of trying to censure President Trump because he called

00:38:46.960 Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas during his joint session address a couple weeks ago.

00:38:51.340 Congressman, a protest a day keeps the fascists away. I want to stay on this Democratic response

00:38:59.040 for a quick moment. What does it say to the public when you have someone like Al Green step up in the

00:39:05.920 way that he did and you have 10 Democrats who vote in line of censure? If we're censuring anybody,

00:39:13.900 it should have been Donald Trump, who I don't think had been back to our chamber since he incited a

00:39:19.720 violent insurrection against us. And then he used his pulpit in order to call a sitting member of

00:39:25.340 the United States Senate Pocahontas. So I think a racial and ethnic slur from the president was a

00:39:31.360 far greater insult to the dignity and decorum of our chamber. Okay. So if I, if I have this right,

00:39:39.780 Trump did a racism because he made fun of Elizabeth Warren for being a member of a race that she is

00:39:51.360 not. It is this postmodern racism? Have we reached a, a level of absurdity in racism that you can now do

00:40:02.520 a racism by, by making a joke about someone lying about her race? And that's, that's what 0.92

00:40:13.660 Raskin wants to talk as a Democrat member of Congress wants to talk about on cable news.

00:40:19.760 It's a lot. Van Jones yesterday, a pretty smart Democrat analyst. He said that thinking about the

00:40:27.320 future of the Democrat party was a nightmare, was a nightmare. And that's why that's, because that's

00:40:34.580 the best they got. When faced with this electoral tidal wave that hit them in November, when faced with

00:40:41.900 President Trump's continuing pretty high approval ratings, they say, no, no, no, but he's a racist

00:40:48.040 because he pointed out that one of our big politicians lied about her race. Is that going to

00:40:55.400 get him? Can we get him now? No, no, you can't. So the Democrats are in horrible, horrible trouble

00:41:01.040 and they're trying to fix it. The smart Democrat politicians are trying to move to the center. 0.99

00:41:10.380 They realized that they got absolutely clobbered, especially in the trans issue of all the social 1.00

00:41:15.820 issues. The trans issue really hurt them in November. They realized they got clobbered on the

00:41:19.940 open border. They realized they got clobbered on the campus protests. They realized they just got,

00:41:25.760 they're just in a bad place. And every time they open their mouths, they make things worse. So

00:41:30.700 the smart Democrats are trying to tack to the center. And you're seeing this nowhere clearer than

00:41:34.940 with Gavin Newsom, Governor Patrick Bateman, American psycho himself. He has launched a podcast.

00:41:42.300 After the embers cooled on the major city in his state that burned to the ground because of his

00:41:46.900 terrible governance, he started a podcast. Of course, that's what every white man is legally entitled

00:41:52.820 and required to do in 21st century America. You have to have, every white man must have his own

00:41:58.880 podcast. Some other people can have podcasts too, but literally every white man in the country,

00:42:03.160 I believe, has one at this point. And what's he do for his podcast? Does he invite on the choir?

00:42:08.920 Does he? No, he doesn't. His first guest is a conservative Republican, Charlie Kirk.

00:42:16.700 His next guest, at least the next guest that we've heard about,

00:42:21.400 one of the architects of MAGA, Steve Bannon. And the weirdest thing about these interviews is

00:42:28.340 they're pretty friendly. Gavin Newsom, he's joking with Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk says,

00:42:34.560 hey, remember that time you lied to everyone and shut your state down, but then you went to the 0.97

00:42:37.680 French laundry and you had a really nice dinner and you violated your own rules, you terrible 1.00

00:42:42.020 hypocrite. And Newsom says, oh yeah, yeah, that was bad. Bad, I shouldn't have done that. That was 1.00

00:42:47.140 wrong. He's buddy, buddy with him. Charlie Kirk and Gavin Newsom, they look like bosom buddies by the

00:42:55.540 end of that interview. Same thing is true of Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon goes on the show with the man

00:43:02.380 that Edmund Smirk calls woke Caesar. And this is how they end there. I'm not even going to get into

00:43:06.300 what they talked about. This is just how they ended their interview. Bright future.

00:43:13.140 Hey, Steve, I really enjoy this conversation. I think it's incredibly valuable and I appreciate

00:43:18.200 the spirit to which we were able to engage. And I hope we could continue the conversation and I hope

00:43:24.500 we get out of this week without any further disruptions. It's been a hell of a beginning of

00:43:29.900 administration. And I appreciate your advocacy. I also appreciate that you call balls and strikes

00:43:35.360 as it relates to what you're seeing with the administration. I also think that for your

00:43:40.480 audience, there's a saying that there are decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks in

00:43:45.380 which decades happen. We're living in that time right now. So whatever happens this week, next week,

00:43:50.020 it's going to be quite intense. We have an economy to turn around geostrategically. The beginning of the

00:43:55.780 kinetic part of the Third World War has got to be stopped. So we're living history every day. And 0.88

00:44:01.340 I'm just honored you had me on here. And we're able to conduct this in some level of decency.

00:44:09.400 I appreciate it, Steve. Thanks for joining us.

00:44:11.360 Thank you, Governor. Appreciate you.

00:44:12.940 Thank you.

00:44:14.340 There it is. That's not a debate. People thought, oh, wow, especially when they announced Charlie

00:44:20.320 Kirk was going to be the first guest on Newsom's show. Oh, that's going to be a great debate,

00:44:24.200 won't it? No. It's not a debate. Gavin Newsom did not invite Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on to

00:44:29.680 have a debate. Gavin Newsom invited Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on because Gavin Newsom realized

00:44:35.160 that Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon are his best paths to the presidency. At least not, I'm not saying

00:44:40.460 actually becoming friends with them, but appearing to be friendly with them. That's Newsom's best path

00:44:45.220 to the presidency because most voters voted for Trump and Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon are major

00:44:49.940 Trump world figures. That's why he's doing it. It's a simple calculation, actually. Hey,

00:44:56.840 who did most people vote for? Okay, I'm going to be friendly with those people. That's it. It's not

00:45:02.280 complicated. I'm not saying that Gavin Newsom is Count von Metternich here, okay? I'm saying he's

00:45:07.360 just a really, really slick politician. I have said this for years, and I've talked to some very

00:45:12.520 prominent, very influential Democrats behind the scenes. I've said, you know, I think this Newsom,

00:45:17.300 I think he's your best guy. And sometimes they'll mock me. Oh, he's a pretty face. Oh, no way.

00:45:24.280 No, no chance. He's nothing. He's all, you know, he burned the city down. He's, that's not gonna,

00:45:29.740 he can't run. Gavin Newsom is a slick politician. We have not seen the likes of this kind of politician

00:45:37.300 since Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton was very, very effective at winning election.

00:45:43.140 Right? And if I were Newsom, I'd be doing the exact same thing that he's doing right now.

00:45:47.820 So you got that tacked to the center. And then just to prove to you that it's not just a one-off,

00:45:51.780 and it's not just Newsom's ambition. Big story from Politico. Rahm Emanuel. Rahm,

00:45:58.660 do you remember that name? Rahm Emanuel gearing up to run for president. Speaking of Clinton world

00:46:03.240 figures, former chief of staff to the president, to President Obama, former Clinton world figure,

00:46:10.820 former ambassador to Japan under Joe Biden, former mayor of Chicago, former member of that. This is

00:46:18.040 a guy, he's had every job in Democrat politics. And Rahm Emanuel wants the top job. And Rahm Emanuel

00:46:26.340 is, by the standards of the Democrat Party today, a moderate. Is this the revenge of the moderates?

00:46:32.420 Can they get over their base? I don't think Rahm can, but Gavin Newsom possibly can. That's it.

00:46:37.900 That's the only hope the Democrats have. I don't want to give them free advice like this,

00:46:40.720 but that's just, that's how it is. Okay. Today is Theology Thursday. We have a special guest on.

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