Trump is de-Judaizing Chuck Schumer, and the Jewish people are cheering on the deportation of pro-Palestine activist Mahmoud Khalil. Is this just another example of Jews trying to protect their enemies, or is it part of a larger anti-American agenda?
00:03:41.780Mahmoud Khalil, the former graduate student who has somehow dominated the news more than any real academic in the country for probably many decades.
00:04:17.480We turn away from the Democrats and the Jews toward a Republican, Cuban, Italian, Irish, Southern Baptist, Senator Ted Cruz on a podcast I've heard of before, the Verdict podcast.
00:05:05.940If you hate America, if you want to undermine America, do not come to this country.
00:05:11.140And the Trump administration rightly arrested and plans to deport Mahmoud Khalil for organizing anti-Israel, anti-America, pro-Hamas protests.
00:05:23.340And what's stunning, Ben, what do you think the reaction of the Democrats is to this?
00:05:30.140They stand with the anti-Israel, pro-Hamas protesters.
00:05:33.700So if you want to know where you stand, if you stand with Israel, if you stand with American Jews, if you stand with freedom, if you stand with the right to be free from oppression and violence, that ain't the Democrats.
00:05:48.160They stand with those engaged violence.
00:05:50.820Okay, so Senator Cruz's primary point here is visas are a permissive decision.
00:06:36.940Senator Cruz doesn't point this out explicitly.
00:06:38.580But as far as I'm concerned, all the Columbia graduate students should be deported, even the ones who are American citizens.
00:06:43.660He's demanding free speech rights, but he doesn't actually have some kind of right to free speech in the same way that an American citizen does.
00:06:51.600There is a charge that this guy is being deported because of Israel.
00:06:59.120That if he hadn't come out against Israel, if he were just an ordinary anti-American protester, if he were just supporting some other cause around the world, that he wouldn't be deported.
00:07:10.480I don't really totally buy that, in part because of what we opened the show on.
00:07:15.560One of the most ardently pro-Israel Jewish politicians in the country is also one of the loudest voices to keep this grad student in the country.
00:07:23.740I'm not sure if you say, well, it's only because of Israel, only because he's anti-Israel and pro-Palestine.
00:07:31.820That's the only reason he's being deported.
00:07:33.400Have you ever seen other demonstrators be deported?
00:07:36.120I'm trying to ask, well, what would the other example be?
00:07:39.100What are the big leftist demonstrations in recent years?
00:08:30.600This is about what do we think about free speech.
00:08:32.620And I'm really happy about that because, as you know, I wrote a book called Speechless, number one national bestseller, highly recommended you pick it up, which said that we're getting free speech wrong.
00:08:42.180Free speech is, the debate really is not over pure free speech versus total censorship.
00:08:46.920It's about competing standards and norms.
00:08:49.260And we have the right to standards, and we have the right to restrict speech that is disordered or illegal or not conducive to human flourishing.
00:08:56.600So in this case, you're seeing Republicans take up that more traditionally conservative point of view.
00:10:03.020I don't think this guy is making us stronger.
00:10:04.620So you have this weird situation where the most prominent Jews in the country, Jews tend to be Democrats, though there are many good, strong, conservative Jews.
00:10:12.380But especially the unobservant Jews tend to be Democrats.
00:10:15.640And so you got the most prominent Jews in the country in politics saying that they got to let this pro-Palestine guy stay.
00:10:48.900And it goes to the kinds of political debates that have transformed the right and have defined the battle between right and left for about a decade now, at least.
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00:12:24.400Speaking of the culture war, the representative from Delaware in the U.S. Congress, Tim McBride, who calls himself Sarah, a fella who dresses like a lady, the first member of Congress who insists he is a member of the opposite sex, he just came out, gave a speech with other House Democrats, accusing Republicans of being obsessed with the culture war.
00:12:49.240We will not take a lecture on decorum from a party that incited an insurrection.
00:12:54.400I appear to live rent-free in the minds of some of my Republican colleagues.
00:13:01.360I wish that they would spend even a fraction of the time that they spend thinking about me, thinking about how to lower the costs for American families.
00:13:11.840I wish they would spend a fraction of the time that they spend thinking about me, figuring out how to make government actually work better, rather than making it work worse in order to prove that government can't work.
00:13:35.700And the American people deserve serious legislators, serious elected officials, who are focused on bringing people together to deliver real results for the American people.
00:13:48.360The man who shows up to Congress in a skirt is accusing us of being weird and bizarre.
00:14:01.160The man who has made a personal jihad out of forcing himself into women's bathrooms against the protestations of women, including his female colleagues in Congress, people like Nancy Mace.
00:14:11.800That guy is accusing us of being weird.
00:14:13.700A man who makes a sexual delusion at best and perversion at worst, the center of his identity is accusing Republicans of being obsessed with culture war issues.
00:14:29.540First of all, on the culture war, a reminder, Republicans, conservatives are not now and never have been the aggressors on the culture war.
00:14:40.780We're not the ones who are radically trying to change things.
00:14:44.560We thought it was perfectly fine until, what, 2015, 2016, that men were limited to the men's bathroom and women were limited to the women's bathroom.
00:14:55.000And boys were restricted to boys' sports leagues and girls were restricted to girls' sports leagues.
00:15:38.480In fact, the phrase culture war is usually just a polemical term to try to dismiss the complaints of one's political opponents.
00:15:47.840The Democrats didn't seem to have a problem with the culture war when they were redefining marriage, the bedrock political institution.
00:15:54.940They didn't seem to have a problem with the culture war when they were forcing fellas into the ladies' bathroom.
00:16:00.340They didn't seem to have a problem with the culture war when they were toppling, even beyond the sexual issues, when they were toppling statues of the founders of America.
00:16:06.480They didn't seem to have an issue with the culture war when they were radically rewriting the curricula to oppose truth, beauty, and justice, goodness, the American way, everything in between.
00:16:15.920No, no, no, no, they only have a problem with the culture war when, where did this come from?
00:16:20.660It's because one of Tim McBride's colleagues in Congress referred to him as Mr., which is a respectful thing to do to your congressional colleague who's a man.
00:16:29.600Because a Republican member of Congress, Keith Self, who came on the show a few days ago, because Congressman Self refused to be forced to lie on behalf of Tim McBride's sexual confusion.
00:16:45.860Because of that, now this guy's throwing a big news conference, accusing us of being obsessed with the culture war.
00:16:50.960At a basic level, though, what is the culture war?
00:17:58.860When it's people like Chuck Schumer who are generally polished and put together and wear their necktie and speak in a kind of dry, educated way with his Harvard degree,
00:18:06.580then you sometimes miss out on the absurdity and the radicalism of what they're pushing.
00:18:11.140But when it's a fellow wearing stiletto heels and a skirt in the halls of Congress, it's clear that what they're pushing is absurd.
00:18:16.900And they have the audacity to call us weird and bizarre and obsessed with politics.
00:20:10.720Because the Republicans would need 60 votes, not just 51, but 60 votes in the Senate in order to advance the bill, in order to go to cloture.
00:20:22.720And Chuck Schumer said, well, you don't have the vote.
00:20:25.360So, it was the Democrats who were going to shut it down.
00:20:28.580But the Democrats are on record for many years now, invading against the horrors of a government shutdown, saying it's contrary to democracy.
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00:25:25.980My favorite comment yesterday is from Patrick Coley, who says, no shirt, no shoes, no service.
00:25:32.860We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
00:25:35.900This was posted on every 7-Eleven window in the U.S. in the 70s and was strictly enforced.
00:25:40.440Funny you mention the 70s because, in principle, it actually couldn't have been enforced.
00:25:46.420The notion that we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, that has not been really enforceable since the Civil Rights Revolution of the 1960s, which, whatever good it did, whatever good it promised to do, it didn't really deliver on much.
00:26:02.360But whatever good it promised to do, it took away an essential aspect of the American political order, which is freedom of association.
00:26:10.000So, actually, businesses don't really have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
00:26:15.680And in America, relating to immigration, which is what you're talking about here, relating to Mahmoud Khalil and the other foreigners who are causing nuisances in our streets, in recent years, we've been told, no, we don't have the right to kick them out.
00:37:15.100I know you feel very strongly that there are no pets in heaven.
00:37:18.720However, I had a conversation with a Lutheran minister who I admire who explained to me that he believes heaven is the place where your joy is made complete.
00:37:27.300So, if when you go to heaven someday, you need your pet there in order for your joy to be made complete, then they will be there.
00:37:34.740And truthfully, I've gone my whole young adult and adult life believing this as well.
00:40:20.540I'm a big fan of the show and your book, Speechless.
00:40:23.020You often speak of how the left has taken over the arts, specifically film and music.
00:40:27.480And as a Christian conservative and a musician myself, I hate seeing the music movies and TV shows made today declining both in quality and in morality.
00:40:36.540And so my question is, what are some real things we can do to take back the arts?
00:41:30.160I can hear beautiful things and then try to recreate them in a paltry way, or I can even imagine things, write little songs myself.
00:41:39.840All of that is to say, if we want to bring reason back to the arts, if we want to bring seriousness back to arts and culture, we need to engage with it ourselves.
00:41:51.580And not just in an instrumental way, pun unintended, not just in an instrumental way to make money or something or to build a big company.
00:43:04.220Just wanted to get your thoughts on a phenomenon that I've observed, which is there are a lot of Christmas Easter types of Catholics who go get ashes on Ash Wednesday.
00:43:12.880I'm at a university, and I got ashes at our Newman Center, and it was just filled with all kinds of people that I'm sure don't regularly attend Mass.
00:43:21.260And I even went to a parish nearby for Mass, and it was like Christmas-level packed in there.
00:43:27.060Even my roommate, who hasn't been to Mass in years, went to get ashes.
00:43:30.660So what do you think the reason for that is?
00:43:32.900It seems like it may be almost kind of a fad of sorts.
00:43:36.040Like, people kind of like to show that they're Catholic, but not really in a religious sense, more of just a cultural sense.
00:43:44.140And if it is that, is that even a good thing?
00:43:46.700You know, for all these people to just be treating it as kind of a cultural celebration rather than contemplating its real significance and, you know, their own state of lukewarmness in the faith.
00:44:54.320But at another level, the most charitable view of it, I think, is it's somewhat hard for people to grasp the resurrection, which is what Easter is about.
00:45:03.620That's really hard for people to grasp.
00:45:05.260It's hard for people to grasp the incarnation.