The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1718 - Get Ready for President AOC

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00:00:33.920 that send a chill down the spine of every sensible American.

00:00:37.780 That word and those letters factor into a prediction

00:00:41.380 from one of America's most prominent political pollsters and prognosticators, Nate Silver.

00:00:46.360 That word and those letters, President A-O-C.

00:00:54.160 How can you have a Democratic primary draft at a time like this?

00:00:57.300 Because, like, first of all, eventually, we're going to have another election.

00:01:02.640 Well, no, but also, this is a really important nomination.

00:01:06.360 My first pick of the first round draft is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:01:13.860 Sorry, I mean, I'll just say it's sub-step.

00:01:15.740 You can say whatever we want.

00:01:16.860 That was going to be my first pick.

00:01:18.320 Given who we are, in a Yale poll just out this week, AOC has the highest net favorability rating

00:01:27.540 of any of the Democrats that they asked about.

00:01:31.520 So she's positive 62%.

00:01:35.020 Harris is second.

00:01:36.880 She's very close.

00:01:37.860 She's net positive 59%.

00:01:40.100 So that means that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has broad appeal across the Democratic Party.

00:01:45.560 And there's a lot of people who could potentially get on board with her.

00:01:48.840 Many will recoil in horror.

00:01:51.920 I, however, might actually donate to the AOC for president campaign.

00:01:56.200 Because this prediction, from a very serious pollster, very serious prognosticator,

00:02:01.800 this prediction is only the latest sign among many.

00:02:06.720 We've got lots of new updates today.

00:02:08.660 That the Democrat Party is headed for a generational collapse.

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00:04:22.700 President AOC, huh?

00:04:25.140 Maybe.

00:04:26.400 I don't know.

00:04:27.600 If that is the case.

00:04:29.200 And don't forget, Nate Silver, he has had a couple of clunkers over the years.

00:04:32.460 But since he really got in the game in 2008,

00:04:35.040 he's got a pretty strong record on the presidential,

00:04:38.220 on lower ticket races.

00:04:41.280 He's a pretty serious guy.

00:04:44.320 Nate Silver says it's going to be AOC.

00:04:45.780 Who are the competitors?

00:04:48.940 You know, Newsom wants it.

00:04:50.500 You know, Whitmer wants it.

00:04:51.780 You know, Kamala wants it. 0.99

00:04:53.460 You know, Josh Shapiro wants it in Pennsylvania.

00:04:56.120 But look at the position that Josh Shapiro finds himself in.

00:04:59.300 Josh Shapiro, as we talked about yesterday,

00:05:01.640 Josh Shapiro was the target,

00:05:05.400 and very nearly the victim, of a serious arson.

00:05:08.380 This guy who allegedly is a very pro-Palestine guy

00:05:12.780 who self-identifies as a Marxist tried to burn down the governor's house,

00:05:16.940 potentially could have killed the governor and his entire family,

00:05:19.300 and then had a hammer such that if he made it into the house itself, 0.99

00:05:23.100 he planned to bash out Shapiro's brains with a hammer.

00:05:27.260 We know the motive, at least according to court documents,

00:05:32.440 at least according to the police.

00:05:34.520 It was that he didn't like Shapiro because he's a Jew,

00:05:38.120 because he says he doesn't like what Shapiro was going to do to the Palestinian people.

00:05:41.860 Now, of course, Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania.

00:05:43.720 Pennsylvania doesn't have a foreign policy.

00:05:45.560 Pennsylvania is not behind the state of Israel.

00:05:48.100 It is clearly because he's a Jew. 0.99

00:05:49.480 And Shapiro, in his first big press conference since the arson,

00:05:56.300 talking about the potential motives,

00:05:59.060 refused to focus on the pro-Palestine angle.

00:06:03.400 I know that there are people out there

00:06:07.800 who want to ascribe their own viewpoints

00:06:12.340 as to what happened here and why.

00:06:16.160 I know there are people out there who want to adopt their own political viewpoints

00:06:22.240 or their own worldviews to what happened and why.

00:06:28.920 I choose not to participate in that.

00:06:33.440 Well, no, it's not people imposing their own political viewpoints on it.

00:06:38.480 We have documents from the police and from the courts

00:06:42.260 suggesting that this suspect was ardently pro-Palestine,

00:06:48.340 that he attacked you because he's pro-Palestine

00:06:51.880 and you're not pro-Palestine because you're a Jew, 0.88

00:06:54.080 even though there are plenty of Jews who are pro-Palestine,

00:06:55.920 but that's a separate issue, 0.94

00:06:56.700 at least in this guy's own deranged mind, 0.95

00:06:58.320 because you're a Jew, you're not pro-Palestine. 0.72

00:07:00.100 And the guy had Che Guevara stickers on his belongings.

00:07:03.060 It was a left pro-Palestine activist.

00:07:06.900 So you're not imposing your own political views on it

00:07:09.800 by just stating those facts.

00:07:11.220 Were the police imposing their own political views when they stated that?

00:07:14.080 Were the courts imposing their political views when they stated that?

00:07:16.760 No, it's just a fact about the suspect.

00:07:19.600 But Josh Shapiro can't say it.

00:07:21.400 Even though Josh Shapiro and his family were nearly burned because of this,

00:07:25.020 thank God they were able to extinguish the fire,

00:07:28.220 alert the governor and his family, and no one was hurt.

00:07:30.400 But even Shapiro can't talk about this because Josh Shapiro is a Democrat politician.

00:07:37.360 And this issue, the Israel-Palestine issue, is such a live issue right now

00:07:40.920 that if he talks about it and he says,

00:07:42.500 yeah, these pro-Palestine people are really going a little crazy,

00:07:44.860 he will be dead in the water for the presidential race.

00:07:47.760 So he can't bring it up.

00:07:49.900 This is why he was picked over in the first place.

00:07:52.800 You cannot convince me otherwise.

00:07:55.360 Pennsylvania is a much more important state than Minnesota

00:07:57.360 if you're a Democrat running for president.

00:07:58.900 Why did Kamala go with Tim Walz over Shapiro?

00:08:01.660 Because the Democrat base now hates Israel.

00:08:04.560 Some Democrat elites still like Israel.

00:08:07.100 It's a brutal wedge issue, and Shapiro is a Jew. 1.00

00:08:10.080 That's why.

00:08:11.000 So she picks Tim Walz, who is one of the most disastrous

00:08:14.160 vice presidential candidates I've ever seen in my entire life.

00:08:18.640 But at least he's not pro-Israel.

00:08:21.720 At least he's not a Jew. 1.00

00:08:23.100 So she could run with him in today's Democrat party.

00:08:26.200 Even now, even after being the victim of this brutal political violence,

00:08:30.320 all signs point to pro-Palestine left-wing activism behind it.

00:08:34.420 Even Josh Shapiro can't talk about it if he wants to have a future political career for the Democrats.

00:08:39.700 Not a good sign for that party.

00:08:42.060 So I can't talk about that issue.

00:08:43.900 Also, the Democrats can't touch immigration.

00:08:46.000 You know why?

00:08:46.440 There's a survey ad from CNBC, not from The Daily Wire, not from The Blaze, not from Fox News.

00:08:52.620 CNBC, looking at Trump's approval rating, shows that Trump is down in some places.

00:08:58.200 He's up in other places.

00:08:59.120 You know where he's especially up?

00:09:01.800 People especially approve of Trump's performance when it comes to immigration.

00:09:07.680 This poll shows that Trump's approval's at 44, not bad.

00:09:12.480 Disapproval's at 51, so he's down 7 on approval, but still 44 approval rating's not bad.

00:09:18.300 When it comes to tariffs, it's negative 16, okay, not great.

00:09:22.160 Inflation cost of living, negative 23, not great.

00:09:24.420 To be expected, though, given what Trump inherited.

00:09:26.940 On the economy, negative 12.

00:09:28.600 Federal workforce, negative 9.

00:09:29.880 That's kind of surprising.

00:09:30.760 Government spending, negative 6, okay.

00:09:33.300 But where's he up?

00:09:34.340 Well, deporting illegal immigrants, he's up 7.

00:09:40.040 That's net favorable versus unfavorable.

00:09:43.560 He's up 7.

00:09:44.940 When it comes to the southern border, the locus of illegal immigration, he's up 12.

00:09:52.260 So the Democrats have made this big mistake.

00:09:54.560 The Democrats have tried to focus a lot of their ire in the early days of this second Trump administration

00:09:59.500 on Trump's deportations.

00:10:01.680 Not realizing, not being able to comprehend that most voters voted for mass deportations.

00:10:12.380 Put precisely, Trump won the popular vote on mass deportations.

00:10:18.680 Mainstream political issue.

00:10:21.880 What are they going to do?

00:10:23.060 You know what they're going to do.

00:10:23.760 They're going to focus on that guy, Kilmar, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who, remember, we were

00:10:31.680 talking about this yesterday on the show, Chris Van Hollen, the Delaware, sorry, the

00:10:34.660 Maryland Democrat senator, takes your money, takes his time, flies to El Salvador to plead

00:10:40.980 with the Salvadoran government to give him this alleged wife-beating, obviously illegal

00:10:48.860 alien, probable member of MS-13.

00:10:51.260 Please, please, you have to give him to us.

00:10:53.940 He thinks this is going to win him votes.

00:10:55.320 He thinks this is a winner for the Democrats.

00:10:57.180 Well, not only does CNBC say otherwise, we have a CNN poll that is so beautiful and surprising

00:11:05.660 in the scope of public opinion shifting here, surprising even me.

00:11:10.800 And I've recognized that immigration is a loser issue for Democrats for about 10 years now.

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00:12:57.640 CNN just ran a poll.

00:13:01.100 Not Daily Wire, not Fox News, not The Blaze.

00:13:04.260 CNN runs a poll.

00:13:06.260 What do Americans want to do?

00:13:08.880 Not about future illegal immigration, but about the illegal aliens who are in the country right now.

00:13:14.220 CNN asked the most radical question you can ask on here.

00:13:19.000 Not should we deport the MS-13 gangsters like Trump is doing.

00:13:21.940 Not should we deport the criminals.

00:13:23.360 How many of you, CNN asks, want to deport all illegal aliens in America?

00:13:32.260 Now, this should be a minor.

00:13:33.300 There are many Republicans even who say, well, not all.

00:13:35.780 I mean, all of them except the local shop owner that I like.

00:13:38.000 All of them except my cleaner.

00:13:39.200 All of them except for the parent of my kid's classmate in school.

00:13:43.080 All of the.

00:13:45.140 You would think, at least listening to the media, listening to political discourse in the last 10 years,

00:13:49.960 that position.

00:13:50.460 How many want to deport all illegal aliens?

00:13:53.400 11 to 16 million people would be a relatively small number, right?

00:13:56.520 Actually, it turns out it's most Americans want that. 0.86

00:13:59.700 Deport all undocumented immigrants. 1.00

00:14:02.380 Voters favoring the government trying to deport all 11 million of them.

00:14:06.860 Back in 2016, just 38 percent of voters wanted the government to try to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants.

00:14:14.700 Compared to where we are in 2025, 56 percent, the majority, the American people have come a long way on this issue,

00:14:22.840 much closer to Donald Trump.

00:14:24.180 And I think that's a big part of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying the country is on the right track

00:14:28.920 when it comes to immigration policy and why Donald Trump's net approval rating on that issue is in the positive.

00:14:34.080 He made one error here.

00:14:36.280 I'm so delighted by this poll that I don't want to knock him, but he made one error.

00:14:39.900 He said, now the American people are much closer to Donald Trump on immigration.

00:14:43.460 That's not true.

00:14:44.360 The American people are much further to the right than where Donald Trump is.

00:14:50.620 President Trump, an amazing president, I'm in no way counter-signaling him.

00:14:54.300 What he's done is great.

00:14:55.240 His position is the winning position, and he's doing a great job deporting people. 1.00

00:14:58.760 But President Trump's view is, all right, first we're going to focus on the face-tattooed gangsters.

00:15:04.320 First we're going to focus on MS-13.

00:15:05.940 First we're going to focus, listen, we want more illegal immigration, but we obviously want to stop the illegal immigration. 0.97

00:15:11.240 We want to close the border.

00:15:12.960 The American people?

00:15:15.720 56 percent of Americans want to deport all illegal aliens.

00:15:19.020 And then in multiple other polls from Gallup, from Harvard-Harris, they show that they want to drastically reduce all immigration. 0.54

00:15:25.300 They don't want to increase legal and decrease illegal.

00:15:27.900 They want to decrease drastically all of it.

00:15:32.000 CNN is trying to, I don't know, try to comfort themselves or something by saying, look, the American people are not getting closer to Trump.

00:15:41.080 No, no, no, no.

00:15:42.500 Most Americans are further to the right on immigration than where Trump is.

00:15:48.520 You saw that first number there.

00:15:49.620 Back in 2016, 38 percent wanted to deport all the illegals.

00:15:53.640 38 percent wanted to deport all the illegals in 2016.

00:15:57.900 And Trump won that election, too.

00:16:01.440 Trump was able to win. 0.96

00:16:02.580 Trump comes down the escalator, says that illegal aliens are rapists and murderers and some might be good people.

00:16:08.740 And at a time when only 38 percent wanted to deport all of them, Trump won that election. 0.93

00:16:13.080 Now you've got, what was the number, 56 percent?

00:16:18.160 Just a complete blowout for the Democrats on an issue that they've dug their heels in on, where they have opened up the border, where everyone knows they opened up the border, where the fact that Trump was able to stop the illegal crossings without a new law.

00:16:33.340 After Joe Biden and Kamala and the Democrats told them for years they couldn't do anything, their hands were tied, they needed a new law.

00:16:38.820 The Democrats just look terrible on this.

00:16:41.560 And this is a sticky issue and it's not going away.

00:16:43.380 Some Democrats know this.

00:16:45.100 The executives at CNN and MSNBC know this because yesterday, or rather two days ago, when Rachel Morin was speaking at that press conference.

00:16:56.440 I'm sorry, Rachel Morin's mother, Patty Morin, was speaking at the White House, giving that press conference on her daughter's murder, on what illegal immigration really looks like in America, how it affects so many people, the gory reality of it.

00:17:09.000 So you had the right-wing news networks were covering it, CNN, MSNBC refused to cover it.

00:17:14.100 Now, no matter what you think about this, no matter what you think about illegal immigration, surely that news conference was newsworthy.

00:17:21.280 This is all anybody was talking about while it was going on.

00:17:23.700 CNN, MSNBC refused to talk about it because the executives understood this is a complete losing issue for Democrats and the audience for CNN and MSNBC is Democrats.

00:17:33.580 The executives know that.

00:17:35.120 The politicians don't know that.

00:17:36.260 The politicians keep digging in.

00:17:39.760 They keep thinking that they're going to win on this issue.

00:17:42.080 So they're going to focus on Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

00:17:47.720 They call him a Maryland father.

00:17:49.640 He's not of Maryland. 0.73

00:17:51.540 He's an illegal alien. 0.87

00:17:52.840 He's a Salvadoran father.

00:17:54.980 And they say he's a father as if that means that he can't be an MS-13.

00:17:58.740 You know, gangsters have kids too.

00:18:00.660 Maybe this is news to Democrat politicians.

00:18:03.000 Gangsters can have kids too.

00:18:04.240 Criminals, drug dealers, human traffickers can have kids too.

00:18:09.660 The best the elites of the Democrat Party can do right now is just try to ignore the issue.

00:18:15.700 Kind of like Josh Shapiro is doing with the Israel-Palestine issue.

00:18:18.080 He's just trying to ignore it.

00:18:18.980 Hope it goes away.

00:18:19.780 But the active politicians and the pundits and the people who are really in the fight, they're all talking about it.

00:18:26.240 They can't resist.

00:18:27.100 They have to take the bait.

00:18:29.100 And so they dig in on issues that are so deeply unpopular.

00:18:33.120 Speaking of the Israel-Palestine issue, President Trump is now threatening $9 billion worth of grants to Harvard.

00:18:39.620 We talked yesterday on the show about how Trump has already frozen over $2 billion worth of grants to Harvard from the federal government.

00:18:45.380 We talked about how Trump's IRS is now threatening Harvard's tax-exempt status because Harvard is violating Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.

00:18:53.180 Because Harvard refused to stop the harassment of Jewish students when the Intifada took over the campus.

00:18:59.800 Now, the Trump administration is threatening additional grants, $9 billion worth of grants.

00:19:09.160 Democrats, elite Democrats like Barack Obama, he cheered on the fact that Harvard University is fighting back against the Trump admin.

00:19:16.820 Democrats, elite Democrats and Harvard's administration are risking the end of America's oldest college.

00:19:27.160 Over what?

00:19:28.440 Over what?

00:19:29.040 What are they risking this over?

00:19:32.380 They, the Trump administration is saying that Harvard has failed to enforce civil rights law.

00:19:38.640 Title VI.

00:19:40.020 Civil rights law, which the Democrats love.

00:19:43.240 They're supposed to love that.

00:19:44.200 The liberals are supposed to love the new civil rights regime, the kind of parallel constitution that took over our country in the 60s.

00:19:49.920 They're the ones who really wanted it, right?

00:19:51.240 So is it that?

00:19:53.380 They're, they're, they're, they're upset about civil rights law. 0.76

00:19:55.080 They're happy to enforce civil rights law when it protects homosexuals, supposedly protects homosexuals, transvestites, supposed right to go into the women's bathroom. 1.00

00:20:04.200 When it, when it, when it, when it protects Muslim students against supposed Islamophobia.

00:20:09.180 They, but now they don't like civil rights law when it protects the Jews against the campus intifada.

00:20:15.960 What is it?

00:20:16.860 They're, they're willing.

00:20:18.040 Many of them are Jews, by the way, many of these, uh, Democrats and, and Harvard administrators are Jews themselves.

00:20:25.360 So it's not just that you can say, well, it's a Jew versus non-Jew kind of thing. 0.79

00:20:29.820 Many of them are Jews themselves, but they're willing to risk the oldest university, supposedly the most prestigious.

00:20:36.660 Over the supposed right of students to harass Jews because of the war in Gaza.

00:20:48.440 That would be a weird way for Harvard to go down.

00:20:51.480 I mean, you know, my, my position on Harvard, which I've repeated for many years now comes down to two words. 0.99

00:20:56.680 Pardon the vulgarity, but Harvard sucks. 0.97

00:20:58.480 That's my position. 0.98

00:21:00.300 I've, I've been looking forward to end even beyond little college rivalries.

00:21:04.780 These conservatives have been saying for years that beating heart of liberalism is, are the elite universities.

00:21:10.540 And so we need to take down those elite universities.

00:21:12.740 Harvard's got over $50 billion in its endowment.

00:21:14.740 Okay.

00:21:16.100 But for what?

00:21:17.200 I mean, this is the crazy thing to me.

00:21:19.200 I don't even care that much about the Israel Palestine conflict.

00:21:22.180 I know you're supposed to, these days, the only position you're not allowed to hold is that you don't care that much about it or that it's not your top issue or anything.

00:21:28.280 But I don't really.

00:21:29.260 I know there's some people, there's some people on the left and the right.

00:21:33.740 Who you would think that they're on the payroll of the Intifada or the Israeli government.

00:21:40.700 But I don't know.

00:21:41.140 For me, it's not, it's not my top issue.

00:21:42.800 I take much more of a practical, prudential approach to it as an American conservative.

00:21:47.280 But it is crazy that that issue, these guys are willing to torch their own university for the supposed sacred right to harass Jewish students. 1.00

00:21:56.940 So you get the Greta Thunberg types wearing their stupid keffias running around campus, chanting death to Israel from the river to the sea, whatever. 1.00

00:22:04.260 That's amazing. 1.00

00:22:04.900 Hey, whatever takes down Harvard.

00:22:06.420 All right.

00:22:06.840 Fine by me.

00:22:08.640 Big money we're talking about here, folks.

00:22:10.780 $9 billion worth of grants on top of the potential loss of tax exemption, which would fundamentally change the way that Harvard operates.

00:22:20.040 Now, speaking of big money, Bernie Sanders is spending big, big money to fight oligarchy, supposedly.

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00:23:53.880 Bernie Sanders has teamed up with AOC, our putative next Democrat nominee for president,

00:23:59.320 on a Fight the Oligarchs tour.

00:24:03.040 Take a guess at how much money Bernie has spent on private jets around his Fighting the Oligarchs tour.

00:24:10.720 Private jets are expensive.

00:24:13.280 You could charter one for what?

00:24:16.260 25 grand a leg.

00:24:18.980 Now, Bernie, according to campaign expenditures, had tipped to the Washington Free Beacon,

00:24:23.940 has spent $221,000 on private jets around his Fighting the Oligarchs tour.

00:24:32.260 I feel like I do pretty well.

00:24:34.120 You know, I've sold a lot of books and cigars and stuff.

00:24:36.160 A lot of people listen to my podcast.

00:24:37.720 But I don't zip around on private jets.

00:24:40.660 That's not a habit of mine.

00:24:41.860 Bernie Sanders, though, the great working class hero, the socialist fighting the oligarchs,

00:24:47.960 he zips around on private jets.

00:24:49.320 I don't know if AOC joined him on those.

00:24:51.820 That's just PJs during the first quarter of 2025.

00:24:54.580 And I'm not even knocking him for it.

00:24:56.420 I'm not. 0.73

00:24:56.740 It's obviously extremely hypocritical to be zipping around on PJs.

00:25:01.460 One, while you are talking about, you know, hazards to the environment.

00:25:06.340 That's an unrelated matter.

00:25:08.020 And two, certainly when you're on the Fighting the Oligarchs tour,

00:25:11.380 Bernie seems like kind of an oligarch, doesn't he?

00:25:13.660 Well, I guess my criticism of it is this.

00:25:17.060 We will have elites.

00:25:20.620 We will necessarily have elites.

00:25:22.760 All societies have elites.

00:25:24.180 I don't have a problem with there being elites.

00:25:26.120 It's just a fact of human society and politics.

00:25:29.460 We're not, I'm no leveling egalitarian who's going to pretend that we're going to have,

00:25:34.940 you know, a triumph of the proletariat and something.

00:25:37.220 I don't know.

00:25:37.620 That way lies madness.

00:25:39.960 There will be elites.

00:25:41.880 The question is, are we going to have oligarchs?

00:25:43.980 Or are we going to have aristocrats among our elite? 0.97

00:25:47.180 What's the difference?

00:25:48.620 Very simple difference comes back to Polybius, ancient political writer,

00:25:53.020 who saw that, you know, aristocracy and oligarchy, it's a smaller group of people who are elite.

00:26:02.420 But aristocrats govern for the common good.

00:26:05.600 That's where aristo comes from, good.

00:26:08.060 The oligarchs govern for private interest.

00:26:10.840 That's the difference.

00:26:12.180 Like the difference between a monarch and a tyrant.

00:26:14.200 A monarch governs for the common good.

00:26:16.240 Tyrant governs for his personal private interest.

00:26:19.060 Kind of looks the same from the outside, but that's the difference.

00:26:22.880 So the question for us is, are we going to have aristocrats or oligarchs?

00:26:25.620 This is why the liberals don't understand how Trump could win on a populist tide.

00:26:32.160 How Trump campaigning with Elon, the richest man in the world.

00:26:35.680 You got two billionaires so public how they could win this election on a populist tide.

00:26:41.720 Because it's not that the people oppose having elites.

00:26:45.000 It's not that the people oppose those who have been successful.

00:26:48.040 They just want our successful people to use their resources for the common good. 1.00

00:26:54.740 They don't want them to be greedy, corrupt, selfish jerks like you see on the left. 1.00

00:26:59.100 That's the difference. 1.00

00:27:00.420 I don't want to go eat the rich.

00:27:02.860 They don't seem very tasty to me.

00:27:05.920 Not one Trump voter begrudges him his wealth.

00:27:09.700 Trump's been rich his whole life.

00:27:12.400 He's come back from bankruptcies too.

00:27:13.980 That guy, that man, has been rich since he was a kid.

00:27:19.460 Elon Musk comes from means, and he's now the richest man in the world.

00:27:24.820 The reason we like these guys, and we knock people like Bernie Sanders, 0.97

00:27:28.920 and hypocrites like the wealthy people on the left, 0.98

00:27:32.200 is they talk about the common good all day. 0.99

00:27:34.160 They don't really advance the common good.

00:27:35.760 Trump has sacrificed tremendously, lo, these past 10 years for the common good.

00:27:42.240 People believe that.

00:27:43.000 People believe that about Elon Musk too.

00:27:45.900 The libs, they don't get it.

00:27:47.740 They think it's class warfare or something.

00:27:50.040 No, it's much more sophisticated than that.

00:27:52.680 The average conservative voter, the average voter, I guess you'd say now,

00:27:57.680 because we won the popular vote.

00:27:58.640 The average voter is much smarter than the liberal elites think.

00:28:03.880 It's much more sophisticated than the liberal elites think.

00:28:06.280 It's much less resentful, much less selfish than the liberal elites think,

00:28:10.320 and that the liberal elites are themselves.

00:28:13.000 But the problem is not that some people are going to do better than others.

00:28:15.780 Some people are going to wield power.

00:28:16.980 Some people are going to run institutions.

00:28:18.240 And that's not the problem.

00:28:20.840 What are you doing with that power?

00:28:22.680 We want that power to be used for the common good,

00:28:24.720 not for the selfish interest of a corrupt group of oligarchs.

00:28:29.120 Bernie wants to go fight the oligarchs.

00:28:30.440 Take a look in the mirror and go look at your donors.

00:28:32.820 Now, speaking of taking on oligarchy, Bobby Kennedy, the Secretary of Health and Human Services,

00:28:40.280 is taking on the relationship between autism and vaccines.

00:28:46.460 The epidemic is real.

00:28:50.160 Only a very, very small portion of it can be charged to better recognition or better diagnostic criteria.

00:28:59.060 I want to say a couple of other things.

00:29:01.820 There are many, many other studies that affirm this.

00:29:04.180 And instead of listening to this canard of epidemic denial,

00:29:14.240 all you have to do is start reading a little science because the answer is very clear.

00:29:18.880 And this is catastrophic for our country.

00:29:22.900 There's a recent study by Blacksell et al. and a team of other researchers

00:29:27.600 that said that the cost of treating autism in this country by 2035,

00:29:32.660 so within 10 years, will be a trillion dollars a year.

00:29:36.780 This is added to already astronomical health care costs.

00:29:41.120 And then there is an individual injury.

00:29:44.360 These are kids that this is a preventable disease.

00:29:46.880 We know it's an environmental exposure.

00:29:50.220 It has to be.

00:29:51.240 Genes do not cause epidemics.

00:29:53.940 Okay, so you hear him going on.

00:29:55.180 I notice he didn't use the word vaccine there.

00:29:58.480 But I think it's implied that he's going to look into the vaccines too.

00:30:03.540 Been a big question about Bobby Kennedy's political career.

00:30:07.620 He's been campaigning on the link between vaccines and autism for his whole career.

00:30:14.900 And then he gets into power, and there's some question, is he going to take it on?

00:30:18.340 Is he going to?

00:30:18.920 I got the distinct impression that he would take it on.

00:30:21.940 There are very entrenched interests that don't want those questions to be raised.

00:30:26.700 When I was chatting with him over at the White House a couple of weeks ago,

00:30:30.480 he was giving perfectly fine answers to all my questions.

00:30:32.880 But he really came alive when I asked about this question of vaccine safety and its implications for autism.

00:30:40.900 He's clearly going to pursue that.

00:30:42.480 I think this is the main thing he cares about.

00:30:44.880 And I think he should care about it.

00:30:47.440 Because he says, the one thing we can't deny is the epidemic.

00:30:50.420 It is weird that in the 1960s, one in 2,500 kids was diagnosed with autism.

00:30:58.420 Today, by 2000, I think it was, what, one in 150 or something like that?

00:31:02.280 Today, it's one in 36.

00:31:04.640 One in 36.

00:31:05.280 So what is it?

00:31:05.940 Some people say, well, we're just diagnosing it more frequently.

00:31:09.280 Kennedy says there, if you dig into the literature, that just doesn't explain it.

00:31:13.480 So something's causing it, right?

00:31:15.320 Could be something in the air.

00:31:19.000 Could be something in the water.

00:31:20.900 As Kennedy says here, it's not going to be something in your genes.

00:31:23.900 Genes don't cause epidemics. 0.53

00:31:26.900 It's something environmental.

00:31:29.340 But if you're so convinced,

00:31:32.140 Big Pharma is so convinced, look, it's possible.

00:31:33.840 I don't know anything about vaccines.

00:31:35.540 What do I know about vaccines?

00:31:37.000 You don't know anything about vaccines either, by the way.

00:31:39.940 Who knows if Bobby Kennedy knows anything?

00:31:41.940 But what's the harm in asking?

00:31:44.520 What's the harm in looking into it?

00:31:47.440 Do we deny that autism rates have increased dramatically?

00:31:52.280 No.

00:31:53.600 Do we agree that autism is not a desirable condition?

00:31:57.340 It's a problem that people have to deal with?

00:31:59.200 Yeah.

00:32:02.000 Okay, you're so confident the vaccines have nothing to do with it?

00:32:04.680 Great.

00:32:05.660 Let Kennedy investigate.

00:32:07.660 What are these oligarchs so afraid of?

00:32:10.000 Now, speaking of the Trump administration,

00:32:11.760 a lot of people are wondering about the future.

00:32:13.960 What happens to MAGA after Trump?

00:32:15.680 I was talking about this a couple days ago, two, three days ago on the show.

00:32:18.720 Because Vivek Ramaswamy is doing great in Ohio for the Ohio governor's race.

00:32:22.720 He's a 71% polling.

00:32:25.780 Also, J.D. Vance is looking like the heir apparent at the presidential level.

00:32:28.820 And yet, those two guys seem to disagree a little bit on the direction of MAGA.

00:32:33.500 On one side, you have the pro-free trade, deregulate, meritocracy kind of angle.

00:32:40.160 On the other side, you have the pro-tariff, defend America's heritage,

00:32:45.480 protectionist kind of angle.

00:32:47.140 Well, what's the future of MAGA?

00:32:49.160 You got Peter Navarro on one side.

00:32:50.440 You got Steve Bannon on the other.

00:32:51.440 Well, Steve Bannon, speaking of, says that we don't need to worry about the future of MAGA

00:32:57.360 without Trump anytime soon, because Trump is going to run for and win a third term.

00:33:02.840 Look, President Trump didn't bring up running for a third term.

00:33:06.000 Myself and others brought up running for a third term.

00:33:09.160 President Trump is going to run for a third term, and President Trump is going to be elected

00:33:12.840 again on the afternoon of January 20th of 2029.

00:33:16.820 He's going to be president of the United States.

00:33:18.160 Okay, but the thing I just read in there, it seemed like there was no wriggle room there.

00:33:25.780 It seemed like it was just, you know, eight or ten words that said only two times.

00:33:29.820 We have a team of people that are working.

00:33:32.020 A team?

00:33:32.280 A team.

00:33:32.680 How can a team do something about that?

00:33:34.860 How, how, what, I don't care if the team is 12 trillion people.

00:33:38.300 The words are still the words.

00:33:40.080 Bill, every day in federal courts, right now in federal courts, there's 120 lawsuits

00:33:45.080 on what President Trump's doing for his Article 2 rights on the unified executive theory.

00:33:51.000 But he's chief executive, he's commander in chief, and he's chief magistrate and chief

00:33:54.580 law enforcement officer.

00:33:55.760 There's a hundred, and they're running to court every day to sue President Trump, all because

00:34:00.440 the interpretation of this.

00:34:01.580 The interpretation of this is open for interpretation.

00:34:05.180 Okay, so there you have it.

00:34:06.580 Bannon doesn't, doesn't totally bring the goods on how Trump is going to stay for a

00:34:12.720 third term, but he says, there's a way to do it.

00:34:15.120 And you hear the skepticism from Bill Maher.

00:34:17.240 What is this really about?

00:34:17.980 Well, you hear Steve Bannon says at the beginning, it's not Trump suggesting this, it's me suggesting

00:34:22.020 this on his behalf.

00:34:23.580 I suspect what a lot of this is about, who knows?

00:34:26.440 Look, Ronald Reagan campaigned against the 22nd Amendment, against presidential term limits.

00:34:30.300 The most prominent modern Democrat president, FDR, had no, this was obviously before the

00:34:39.360 22nd Amendment, but he didn't care.

00:34:40.620 He blew up the Washington president, he won four elections.

00:34:45.500 So Democrats don't really have any right to complain about this, and Republicans too.

00:34:49.360 I mean, the great principled Republican, Ronald Reagan, thought presidential term limits were

00:34:52.740 terrible.

00:34:53.580 But what is this really about?

00:34:55.520 I think a lot of this is about President Trump figuring out how to work through a political

00:35:01.440 problem that is novel in all of our lifetimes.

00:35:04.000 That's novel even going back to our grandparents' lifetime, that we haven't seen since Cleveland

00:35:07.660 having a non-consecutive second term back in the 19th century.

00:35:11.640 Namely, what do you do? 0.94

00:35:15.560 You've got a new administration, but you're at risk of being a lame duck.

00:35:19.080 And I think the rapidity, I think the absolute fire hose of initiatives from the Trump administration,

00:35:26.460 I think the volatility in global markets and geopolitics broadly, two major wars going

00:35:32.520 on right now.

00:35:33.420 I think Trump's initiatives on all of those fronts, and including dangling the little

00:35:38.240 shiny object over here, the little shiny keys over here to say there might be a third

00:35:41.640 term, I think that's all about off-footing his opponents and making it clear that he is

00:35:47.060 still quite active, he still has a lot of power, to use Scott Adams' term, I think he's

00:35:51.280 talking about as the sale here.

00:35:52.940 But we'll see, who knows, maybe we get a third term, then Barron can serve seven or eight

00:35:56.740 terms, Barron, Augustus, Octavian, Caesar, Trump, and you know, who knows, we'll go from

00:36:00.900 there.

00:36:01.600 America's on the comeback, but the fight for truth is far from over, while the libs try

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00:36:29.840 My favorite comment yesterday is from Sky325Real, who says, calling Kilmar Abrego Garcia a Maryland

00:36:36.880 father is like calling Charles Manson a famous musician.

00:36:39.500 He was famous with his girls and a musician.

00:36:42.380 This is how the media operate.

00:36:43.860 Yeah, fair enough.

00:36:45.640 Maryland father.

00:36:47.640 He's a Maryland father.

00:36:48.640 What does that mean?

00:36:50.000 I was in Iceland once.

00:36:52.200 It's not an Icelandic citizen, of course.

00:36:54.460 I'm not some blonde, blue-eyed, white as snow, Nordic, you know, Thor-looking fellow.

00:37:02.080 But could I call myself an Icelandic man?

00:37:06.040 An Icelandic cigar salesman?

00:37:07.220 No, I don't think so.

00:37:09.640 Mr. Garcia's relationship to Maryland and to our country is rather tenuous, and he's

00:37:14.860 not here anymore, and he's not coming back.

00:37:17.300 The mailbag this week is sponsored by Pure Talk, as it is just about every week.

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00:37:27.780 Take it away.

00:37:28.120 Michael, I discovered you when you guest hosted for Rush in 2020.

00:37:32.200 I've not missed an episode of your show since March 2022.

00:37:35.140 I subscribed to Daily Wire a month later just for your show.

00:37:37.900 I've been a member of the creme de la creme since before it technically existed, but you

00:37:41.160 had a take this week that was so bad, it made me consider never listening to your show again.

00:37:46.480 Daylight savings time.

00:37:47.620 First, you got the setup wrong.

00:37:49.120 Trump doesn't want to get rid of daylight savings time.

00:37:50.820 He wants to get rid of standard time.

00:37:52.000 He originally said he wanted to get rid of daylight savings time, but now he says he wants to

00:37:54.780 permanently extend daylight in the evening, which would mean abolishing standard time.

00:37:57.800 This is the move that has bipartisan support.

00:38:00.180 You also have the history of daylight savings time completely wrong.

00:38:02.360 It had nothing to do with farmers.

00:38:03.760 Farmers actually hated daylight savings time when it was instituted because farmers perform

00:38:06.940 much work in the morning and they actually lose an hour of daylight relative to the clock.

00:38:10.720 And I say this as somebody from the rural South who grew up on a small farm.

00:38:13.660 Daylight savings time was originally instituted by Wilson during World War I, reinstituted by

00:38:17.500 FDR during World War II, and codified during the LBJ administration in the 60s.

00:38:21.660 Three of the worst lived residents in American history.

00:38:24.840 I think about a line from Rush.

00:38:25.940 You don't always have to know what something is.

00:38:28.500 You just have to know who wants it.

00:38:30.040 The libs wanted this.

00:38:31.440 It is a liberal assault on the reality of time.

00:38:33.840 And as far as tradition, it's about five minutes old, just a little younger than communism and

00:38:37.800 feminism. 1.00

00:38:38.100 And like both of those things, it needs to be eradicated from public life entirely.

00:38:41.880 Please do some research, reevaluate your stance and completely change your opinion on this issue.

00:38:46.620 Thanks.

00:38:46.940 That is one of the greatest mailbag dressing downs I've ever had.

00:38:55.080 That was very well stated, and I think it's the best argument for ending daylight savings time.

00:38:59.620 Now, you say Trump doesn't want to end daylight savings time.

00:39:01.440 He wants to end standard time.

00:39:03.200 Thereby making daylight savings time the standard time, this is the same thing.

00:39:07.820 This is, but fair enough.

00:39:10.780 It'll be permanent daylight savings time.

00:39:12.800 We could call it daylight standard time or something like that.

00:39:14.840 Okay, fine.

00:39:15.500 You say that farmers never really liked it.

00:39:18.480 Now, listen, I did not claim that farmers loved daylight savings time in the beginning.

00:39:22.180 I said, it is claimed that.

00:39:24.140 But you are right.

00:39:25.260 That is a canard.

00:39:27.420 Farmers were not the ones campaigning for daylight savings time.

00:39:30.720 They actually were opposed to it from the beginning and onward.

00:39:33.240 You're right that Woodrow Wilson was involved in it.

00:39:36.480 Though there have been many, many projects to grab hold of time throughout history.

00:39:42.120 Before Woodrow Wilson, before the founding of America.

00:39:45.460 And so this really gets down to what we're talking about here.

00:39:47.620 To measure time is to create some kind of artificial construct.

00:39:54.120 We're trying to grab hold of something that we can't really control.

00:39:58.560 And we're trying to measure something that we actually can't even really measure.

00:40:01.500 Even an atomic clock can't really perfectly get it right.

00:40:03.900 So the point that I'm emphasizing here is we have a little power here.

00:40:09.360 We within the polity, the conservative argument for this, is that we within the polity have the power to establish our measurements and to do so in ways that benefit us.

00:40:17.960 We are not slaves to the clock.

00:40:19.940 And so the arguments for daylight savings time are that we get a little extra time, you know, in the summertime and in the evening, a little extra daylight.

00:40:28.620 Could play outside more, have a little more retail, juices the economy.

00:40:32.540 We don't really need that time in the winter.

00:40:34.340 I don't mind springing forward and falling back.

00:40:38.000 They say that it kills people, some small number of people.

00:40:40.680 Yeah, okay, whatever.

00:40:41.300 It also saves lives.

00:40:42.620 So give me a break.

00:40:43.660 You know, to me, that's weak.

00:40:45.040 I agree that FDR and Woodrow Wilson are bad.

00:40:49.140 But I also insist upon the political right, the exalted freedom to grab hold of our clocks.

00:40:58.380 And so, look, you've made, it takes a very confident and very handsome man to admit when he hears a good argument from the other side.

00:41:08.560 You've moved me a little bit.

00:41:10.920 You haven't totally convinced me, though.

00:41:13.380 I still like, I still like my silly little clock changes.

00:41:16.820 Because the tradition's only 100 years old.

00:41:18.780 It's all right.

00:41:19.160 I'll deal with it.

00:41:20.420 Next one.

00:41:22.200 Good morning, Michael.

00:41:22.880 This is Arun.

00:41:23.860 So like you, I love President Donald Trump.

00:41:26.800 No homo. 1.00

00:41:27.520 But I do believe he is making a huge mistake with his refusal to enforce the TikTok ban.

00:41:33.560 First of all, I think it is unwise because TikTok is evil.

00:41:37.540 But secondly, the TikTok ban was a bill that was legitimately passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by Joe Biden, such as he was.

00:41:48.140 And so it seems to me that the president has a duty to enforce laws, even laws that he doesn't like.

00:41:56.120 Now, I grant you that every president should be given some leeway and discretion to exercise their better judgment.

00:42:03.460 But it seems to me that here there are no serious downsides to banning TikTok.

00:42:07.940 I'm curious as to what you think President Trump should do.

00:42:11.120 Thank you, as always, for your insight.

00:42:12.720 A wonderful question.

00:42:14.480 The reason that Trump has not enforced the TikTok ban, I think, is one, it would have been politically unpopular.

00:42:21.860 And we've just come off this election season because a lot of people, young people, many of whom came over to Trump, really like TikTok.

00:42:28.180 But two, because the enemy of my enemy can at least act as my friend.

00:42:34.840 The people who really wanted TikTok to be banned were Silicon Valley.

00:42:39.540 Facebook and Google really wanted TikTok to be banned because TikTok is a competitor to Facebook and Google.

00:42:44.960 But Facebook and Google have been very, very anti-conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Trump.

00:42:50.280 So why would Trump give a freebie to people who have hated him and tried to destroy his life for the past 10 years?

00:42:56.380 I think Silicon Valley needs to make more concessions.

00:42:59.900 I think there is a negotiation going on here, a little art of the deal.

00:43:03.160 And I think if Facebook and Google, the chief beneficiaries of a TikTok ban, want that to be effected, the president conducts foreign policy, he's got a lot of leeway, as you admit, then I think Facebook and Google need to give us something.

00:43:19.780 It's not enough.

00:43:20.380 I don't care that Sundar Pichai and Mark Zuckerberg showed up to the inauguration.

00:43:24.100 That's a good start.

00:43:24.820 Those guys have spent a lot of time pummeling conservatives into the ground to load these past 10 years deliberately.

00:43:33.520 And I want concessions from them.

00:43:36.320 And then I agree with you.

00:43:37.720 I don't have any soft spot for the Chinese Communist Party or for TikTok or brain rot or anything. 0.98

00:43:42.680 But I think Trump needs to extract concessions before he carries that out.

00:43:45.700 Next one.

00:43:46.000 Hi, Michael.

00:43:47.880 I was listening to your episode last Friday about how apparently, according to Democrats, married women can't vote because of the SAVE Act.

00:43:55.100 So I just wanted to state for the record that I got married in May of 2024.

00:43:59.400 But by the November election to bring President Trump back into the White House, I was able to cast my vote using my new ID with my new last name.

00:44:06.780 But this really got me thinking.

00:44:08.480 I know many married women who just don't really feel like it's necessary to go through the legal process to change their last name. 1.00

00:44:14.660 And, like, I know it sucks going up to the DMV and the Social Security office with your second grade report card and, like, the Constitution of Rwanda and even pay a little bit of money.

00:44:23.520 But is this just laziness among women? 1.00

00:44:26.180 Do they just not see it as a priority?

00:44:28.400 Is it a win of feminism? 0.98

00:44:30.300 Would love to get your thoughts.

00:44:31.760 And I just followed Mayflower Cigars on Instagram.

00:44:34.060 So thanks for all you do and just excited to hear from you.

00:44:36.980 Yeah, it's really good.

00:44:38.140 People just like to complain, you know.

00:44:40.300 That's all it is, really.

00:44:42.860 People just like to complain.

00:44:44.240 And so they're trying to find anything.

00:44:45.640 I mean, they're complaining about Trump deporting a guy who two judges found is likely an MS-13 gangster who, you know, had a court order of protection filed by his wife because he was beating her, allegedly.

00:44:56.100 So anyway, they like to find anything they can to hit Trump.

00:44:59.440 And on this, not just the hoi polloi, but the elite Democrats who are leading the opposition to the SAVE Act, they're just upset because they don't want people to have to prove that they're citizens to vote.

00:45:13.380 So it actually does relate to the illegal immigrant question.

00:45:16.940 They don't like that the SAVE Act requires you to prove that you are eligible to vote in order to vote.

00:45:22.940 And so they can't say that outright.

00:45:25.900 They always have to say, this is somehow discriminatory against black people, or this is discriminatory against whatever, pygmies, or this is discriminatory. 0.91

00:45:33.380 It's discriminatory, and now they're saying it's discriminatory against women, married women in particular, as if Republicans wanted to disenfranchise.

00:45:39.360 Even if we wanted to disenfranchise anyone, it wouldn't be married women because married women vote Republican. 1.00

00:45:43.760 So it's just so stupid. 1.00

00:45:45.760 It's so transparent what they're after. 1.00

00:45:47.420 They want illegal aliens to vote. 0.87

00:45:51.420 And when they say illegal aliens don't vote, the conservatives respond and say, okay, great. 0.84

00:45:56.160 Well, we're just going to make sure that you have to prove you're a citizen to vote.

00:45:58.680 And they say, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.

00:46:00.360 And you say, why not?

00:46:01.060 They say, uh, because married women won't vote or something. 1.00

00:46:04.640 It's just so ridiculous. 0.99

00:46:06.440 You're right. 0.94

00:46:06.720 Yeah, sometimes it's inconvenient to get ID cards.

00:46:09.600 We all do it.

00:46:11.240 You do it to get into bars and to buy a pack of cigarettes.

00:46:13.680 It's not that hard.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 18, 2025

Ep. 1718 - Get Ready for President AOC

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