The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 172 - MSM Pleads Guilty To 5 Charges Of Manslaughter

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00:00:44.020 As President Trump forces Democrats' hand on the contrived non-traversy at the border,

00:00:49.200 which I told you might happen yesterday when this news broke. We'll get to that.

00:00:52.420 Then the Supreme Court raises our taxes, but foreshadows a possible huge victory for American liberty.

00:00:58.860 We'll get into that.

00:00:59.820 Finally, the mailbag.

00:01:00.820 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:02.660 I also want to address something that I put on Twitter yesterday. 0.93

00:01:14.680 I was citing a Pat Robertson quote about how feminism causes women to kill their children

00:01:21.860 and practice witchcraft and become lesbians and all that, and I use that to refer to soccer. 0.87

00:01:25.640 This has gone internationally viral.

00:01:27.440 I have Tory members of Parliament in the UK tweeting about it, all these soccer journalists around the world.

00:01:33.800 We will get to that, because it really brought up a few interesting points.

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00:03:31.180 To begin, I sent out this tweet yesterday.

00:03:33.840 I know, I actually must thank all of the viewers and the listeners who like soccer, which by

00:03:39.480 my last count is 99.8% of them because I've, I have been on this holy jihad against the

00:03:46.280 world cup because I really don't like soccer.

00:03:48.020 So anyway, I decided to kind of have a little fun with this and use a Pat Robertson quote,

00:03:53.000 the televangelist, the squinty eyed guy and substitute soccer for feminism. 1.00

00:03:57.120 So the quote from Pat Robertson is this, the feminist agenda is not about equal rights

00:04:02.860 for women.

00:04:03.680 It is about a socialist anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their 1.00

00:04:08.460 husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians. 1.00

00:04:14.360 This is, I, I, so I substituted soccer and nobody got this. 1.00

00:04:19.400 So I had conservative MPs in the UK tweeting all these international soccer journalists and

00:04:25.300 nobody caught the reference.

00:04:26.560 And I was really shocked because every conservative should know that quote.

00:04:30.360 That is one of the greatest quotes in the history of the English language and of politics.

00:04:35.720 It is so funny because it gets at this thing that I think conservatives should always play

00:04:39.760 around with, which is you say a quote and then people don't know if you're kidding or not,

00:04:44.100 you know, and maybe you're kidding.

00:04:46.260 Maybe you're not kidding.

00:04:47.000 Maybe you're just having a little fun with it.

00:04:48.580 Who knows?

00:04:49.340 But the quote actually got me thinking because it sounds so crazy.

00:04:52.660 Pat Robertson certainly says some, some out there things, but, uh, but on this quote,

00:04:57.680 I said, I wonder if it's true.

00:04:58.900 I wonder if there's any truth to it.

00:05:00.340 It sounds so crazy, but let's just go through the points.

00:05:02.660 The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women.

00:05:05.860 Obviously it's not.

00:05:06.860 It is so awful and vicious to, uh, any woman who contradicts its orthodoxy. 0.98

00:05:12.820 Sarah Palin, Sarah Sanders.

00:05:14.460 We saw that it's vicious, awful, cuts women off at the knees, says that women who don't,

00:05:19.520 you know, become middle managers at the widget factory, women who choose to have children 1.00

00:05:24.340 and raise them, that they're like fake women or something. 1.00

00:05:26.760 There was a feminist journal that said that Sarah Palin is just pretending to be a woman. 1.00

00:05:31.740 She's not really a woman. 0.84

00:05:33.080 So yeah, that's obviously true.

00:05:34.520 It's a socialist.

00:05:36.060 Of course, we saw the women's march after Donald Trump was elected.

00:05:39.300 It was all anti-capitalism.

00:05:41.620 We need to raise taxes.

00:05:42.740 We need to, you know, uh, take over the means of production.

00:05:46.320 I mean, it was very left-wing economically, uh, anti-family political movement that

00:05:50.820 encourages women to leave their husbands. 0.97

00:05:52.800 There's the, one of the most famous quotes in the feminist movement is from Irina Dunn, 0.99

00:05:56.420 which is that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. 1.00

00:05:59.620 Certainly that's the case.

00:06:00.840 The most famous feminist play is a dollhouse by Henrik Ibsen, where at the end, the woman 0.99

00:06:05.580 leaves her family.

00:06:06.820 That this has been, he won awards from feminist organizations for that. 0.98

00:06:10.680 So that hard to say, no, uh, kill their children. 0.96

00:06:13.300 America kills a million children a year, a million babies a year in the womb. 1.00

00:06:17.460 And we have, since Roe v. Wade was decided by the Supreme Court.

00:06:21.660 Then it gets a little kooky and you kind of wonder, because then he says it encourages

00:06:25.880 women to practice witchcraft, you know, and he's, I don't know, could that possibly be 0.99

00:06:30.340 true?

00:06:30.780 But then, then I thought about it and the, the modern feminist movement has this undeniable 0.96

00:06:37.040 connection to occult imagery all the way, the whole time it always has.

00:06:41.360 And I said, maybe, maybe I'm just imagining this, who knows?

00:06:44.620 Then I said, you know, the main feminist music festival, explicitly a feminist music festival

00:06:49.880 from Sarah McLachlan in the nineties is called Lilith Fair.

00:06:53.180 And it was all female performers and there was no men allowed, right?

00:06:57.760 And Lilith Fair refers to Lilith, a mythical demon who snatches away babies in the night and

00:07:05.300 kills them.

00:07:05.960 So I thought, that's a little weird.

00:07:07.340 I wonder why they'd name it after that.

00:07:08.560 Then I went to my favorite website, the greatest website on the internet, Everyday Feminism. 1.00

00:07:13.040 I said, well, let's see if there is this occult aspect of feminism, I bet I'll find it on 1.00

00:07:17.340 Everyday.

00:07:17.820 Oh, there it is.

00:07:19.380 Said, I wonder if, and there it is.

00:07:22.060 The second, the page lines, this is like the third article on Everyday Feminism. 1.00

00:07:26.500 The headline is seven ways to use spiritual practice to heal and resist.

00:07:31.600 And I'll just read you just the first, like two paragraphs of this, of this piece.

00:07:36.980 I can barely get through it.

00:07:39.540 A handful of dried rose petals, an apple sliced with a spoon, piloncillo, and a few drops of

00:07:46.560 sweet smelling essential oils stirred into a pot of boiling water.

00:07:50.660 This is the recipe to my mother's love potion made to attract self-love, a physical manifestation

00:07:57.340 of love to pour over one's body while reciting positive affirmations.

00:08:02.260 She raised me with tons of remedios de la abuela, or remedies from grandma, from an onion

00:08:07.820 on your belly button to relieve a fever, burning a palo santo to rid negative energy, to the belief

00:08:14.260 that loving yourself is a radical act of resistance.

00:08:16.420 All knowledge that was passed down to her from parents, tias y tios, and abuelos y bisabuelos,

00:08:24.160 among others.

00:08:25.260 Ancestral spirituality is a deeply personal practice.

00:08:28.500 It's a vague term that essentially boils down to the act of connecting with one spirit through

00:08:32.800 but not limited to brujeria, herbalism, astrology, oracles, and much more.

00:08:40.760 Double, double toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble.

00:08:45.060 I actually was shocked.

00:08:46.880 I did not see those connections.

00:08:48.700 But you know, you read that, that's like one of the main articles on everyday feminism. 1.00

00:08:52.520 You say, oh, I guess feminism does have this bizarre connection to the occult. 1.00

00:08:56.700 And then finally, Pat Robertson says feminism makes women want to become lesbians, or tries 1.00

00:09:02.420 to make them into lesbians. 1.00

00:09:03.700 And that one also, I said, that can't possibly be true. 0.64

00:09:05.680 And then I read the Washington Post a couple weeks ago, where Susanna Danuta Walters, professor

00:09:11.320 of sociology, director of the Women's Sexuality Gender Studies Program at Northeastern, and

00:09:16.940 editor of a major gender studies journal called Signs, wrote a piece called Why Can't We Hate

00:09:21.720 Men?

00:09:23.180 So I can't, you know, maybe I think, because Pat Robertson put that quote out in a fundraising 0.98

00:09:26.920 letter in the early 90s, and everyone said he was a total wacko and crazy. 0.93

00:09:30.540 And then, you know, leave it to feminists to prove him right. 1.00

00:09:34.040 Even if it wasn't right at the time, they say, oh, that's a pretty good idea, Pat Robertson,

00:09:37.640 maybe we should do it.

00:09:38.860 So anyway, I want, I want conservatives to know that quote.

00:09:41.500 It is one of the funniest quotes ever written in politics.

00:09:44.000 You should know it, and recite it frequently, and see if your lefty friend's heads just explode

00:09:48.880 when you say it.

00:09:49.800 Moving on to important news of the day, this has been a banner day for the mainstream media.

00:09:54.980 So you might, you might have seen this chyron.

00:09:57.520 Donald Trump tweeted it out.

00:09:58.660 Who says the media are biased?

00:10:00.540 Who says the mainstream networks are biased?

00:10:02.820 ABC runs a chyron.

00:10:04.380 It's a picture of Donald Trump on the screen.

00:10:06.800 And then the chyron says, Paul Manafort pleads guilty to five charges of manslaughter.

00:10:13.140 Paul Manafort, who was the head of the Trump campaign for like five minutes around the

00:10:17.780 convention, he was brought onto the campaign to help get delegates at the Republican convention.

00:10:22.180 And he's a longtime lobbyist.

00:10:23.980 And, you know, it seems like they've got him, the Mueller investigation has him on, maybe

00:10:29.220 some money laundering, maybe obstructing justice, whatever.

00:10:32.900 They ship him off to jail.

00:10:34.300 Thank goodness.

00:10:34.980 Finally, our streets are safe with Paul Manafort.

00:10:37.640 A 70-year-old lobbyist is in the clink.

00:10:39.640 Thank goodness.

00:10:40.620 And so they put him there.

00:10:42.700 And then ABC ups his charges to five counts of manslaughter.

00:10:45.920 Eventually, they apologize.

00:10:48.340 They issue something.

00:10:49.160 They say, we regret and apologize for the false lower graphic.

00:10:51.860 We're investigating how this happened.

00:10:53.460 Why it was allowed on air.

00:10:54.340 We apologize.

00:10:55.120 I know why it was allowed on air. 0.96

00:10:56.500 Because these crazy lefties working in your newsroom put it up there. 1.00

00:11:00.520 They let it happen. 0.99

00:11:01.280 That's why.

00:11:01.740 Very, very strange.

00:11:03.580 But not to be outdone.

00:11:05.040 Time magazine posted its new cover.

00:11:08.680 And its new cover is an imposing figure of Donald Trump staring down at a crying, cute little illegal alien baby or toddler.

00:11:16.900 And it says, welcome to America.

00:11:19.380 Trump is like the wall himself, right?

00:11:21.520 And this is not the first time that Time magazine has done this.

00:11:24.520 Time magazine has run a zillion covers against Donald Trump.

00:11:28.140 They had one where he's looking into the mirror and it's a picture of him as king.

00:11:32.020 And it says, king me.

00:11:34.240 And this is unbelievable, by the way.

00:11:35.700 Donald Trump is the least authoritarian president in my lifetime.

00:11:39.000 This guy is constantly saying, can't do it.

00:11:41.920 The law says this.

00:11:42.900 I don't want it.

00:11:43.480 I'm just following the law.

00:11:44.660 I can't be an imperial president.

00:11:46.820 I'm not going to make this decision unilaterally.

00:11:48.840 I'm not going to force nuns to pay for abortions or contraception. 0.97

00:11:54.360 I'm not going to force this group to do this.

00:11:56.360 I'm not going to force this group to do that.

00:11:57.700 And they call him an authoritarian because up is down and war is peace.

00:12:01.160 They have another one where it's Donald Trump and it's his screaming face on fire,

00:12:05.200 fire in the background, right?

00:12:06.520 That's Trump because he's supposed to be furious and chaotic.

00:12:09.500 Not at all.

00:12:10.300 He's one of the least emotional presence I've also seen in my lifetime.

00:12:13.620 He's the Teflon Don.

00:12:14.820 That's his new nickname from John Gotti.

00:12:18.460 Then there's another one that they had.

00:12:20.700 It was Donald Trump.

00:12:21.980 And the Washington Monument was crumbling because the country is crumbling under Donald Trump,

00:12:27.080 except that unemployment is at virtually all time lows.

00:12:29.960 And disability claims are way down, which means the Social Security Administration might be able to last more into the future.

00:12:36.760 And we have a pretty booming economy.

00:12:39.000 And the IMF says that it's Trump's responsibility for that booming economy.

00:12:43.360 And we're finally taking a serious line on our trade deals.

00:12:47.220 And our foreign affairs are looking pretty good.

00:12:49.340 We've got North Korea coming to the table, possibly to denuclearize it.

00:12:52.080 Other than everything going great, Washington is crumbling.

00:12:56.320 And then finally, they have the meltdown one.

00:12:58.920 This is the Trump meltdown.

00:13:00.220 It's come in.

00:13:00.720 His face was melting.

00:13:01.960 There's no meltdown.

00:13:03.000 And this gets to a point that we're going to talk about later.

00:13:04.860 This executive order that Donald Trump issued about the immigration separation at the border.

00:13:11.200 This actually may have worked out all right.

00:13:13.660 I said yesterday in the show when this news broke, I said,

00:13:17.640 it seems bad, but we've got to read and see what happened.

00:13:21.220 Because it seems bad on the surface, but maybe, who knows?

00:13:23.840 Who knows how it actually looks?

00:13:24.880 We'll get to that, too, because there isn't a meltdown.

00:13:27.300 Then, in moving from the world of news media to Hollywood media, you have Peter Fonda,

00:13:33.980 former actor Peter Fonda, the brother of that traitor, Jane Fonda.

00:13:39.960 He goes out and he starts tweeting and says that we need to rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms 0.99

00:13:44.620 and throw him into a cage with pedophiles, see what happens. 0.96

00:13:47.400 Then he called for riots in the streets, called for 90 million people to come out, 0.98

00:13:50.880 you know, start targeting politicians' children. 0.89

00:13:54.220 And you saw this kind of radical call to action from Tom Arnold, too.

00:14:00.800 Tom Arnold didn't say any of the horrible things that Peter Fonda said,

00:14:03.180 but it was that same, come on, you've got to do something.

00:14:05.060 You've got to, come on, everything's terrible.

00:14:06.400 You've got to do something.

00:14:07.180 Except all of the things that they're all screaming about now were happening under Barack Obama's administration

00:14:12.800 in much worse ways.

00:14:14.720 One thing about this news story, like the bright side of this news story, the silver lining,

00:14:20.040 is that every single day more terrible stories from the Obama administration come out

00:14:25.600 that make Donald Trump look like a Boy Scout.

00:14:28.280 This is according to the AP, out today.

00:14:31.900 According to a federal court filing, 14-year-old kids under the Obama administration,

00:14:36.940 14-year-old illegal aliens, were exposed to long periods of solitary confinement.

00:14:42.660 They were found shivering, nude, on the concrete floor of jail cells.

00:14:47.340 According to witnesses at some of these holding facilities,

00:14:50.100 these kids would show up with bruises, broken bones, which were blamed on the guards.

00:14:55.420 Under Barack Obama, here's some testimony.

00:14:57.600 This is from one of the kids, under Barack Obama.

00:14:59.800 I don't know if I made that clear enough.

00:15:01.340 Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me,

00:15:05.460 strapped me down all the way from your feet all the way to your chest.

00:15:08.260 You couldn't really move.

00:15:09.240 They have total control over you.

00:15:10.720 They also put a bag over your head.

00:15:12.820 That has little holes you can see through it, but you feel suffocated with the bag on.

00:15:16.860 What year did that come from?

00:15:17.920 2018?

00:15:18.620 Wrong.

00:15:18.980 2017?

00:15:19.720 Wrong.

00:15:20.540 2015.

00:15:21.300 That's when that happened.

00:15:22.380 There was an ACLU report just in May.

00:15:24.080 There was widespread abuse of illegal aliens from 2009 to 2014.

00:15:28.760 All under Obama and the mainstream media didn't say boo.

00:15:32.120 They didn't say peep because they don't actually care about this whatsoever.

00:15:35.640 It is just the only cudgel that they can contrive and make up to attack Donald Trump

00:15:40.680 because everything else is going so well.

00:15:43.380 So let's talk about this executive order.

00:15:45.380 We got a little bit of time before the mailbag.

00:15:46.740 This executive order came out yesterday during this show, and he said, okay, we're going to

00:15:53.800 stop separating these families.

00:15:55.720 We've got to figure out a way to stop separating the families and keep them detained together 0.99

00:16:00.060 until we can figure out their immigration situation, either prosecute or file for asylum

00:16:07.220 or deport them.

00:16:08.300 So we know all of the outrage is fake, right?

00:16:11.440 We know we've just demonstrated that.

00:16:13.600 So my thought initially is, why would Donald Trump cave on this?

00:16:18.320 This is a winner of an issue.

00:16:19.600 We'll get to the numbers on it in a second.

00:16:21.440 Why would Donald Trump cave?

00:16:22.840 Why would he cave?

00:16:24.720 First, you have to find out what the executive order says, as I mentioned, because the devil's

00:16:30.820 in the detail.

00:16:31.400 So let's see what it says.

00:16:32.440 It says that the Health and Human Services Secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, will have custody

00:16:37.880 of families during criminal proceedings and asylum adjudication.

00:16:42.020 So instead of putting the parents with the U.S. Marshals and the kids with Health and Human

00:16:45.740 Services, this executive order says, Health and Human Services, oh, I'm sorry, Department

00:16:50.380 of Homeland Security is going to have custody of these families during criminal proceedings.

00:16:54.780 But the question is, which is it?

00:16:58.440 Is this criminal detention or is this some kind of government program, welfare program to

00:17:05.500 detain people who have nowhere else to go?

00:17:07.340 Which is it?

00:17:08.840 Because the law says you can't put the kids in jail.

00:17:12.000 And if you let the parents go and you don't keep them held in custody, then they'll just

00:17:16.660 go and they won't show up to their asylum hearings or their criminal hearings.

00:17:21.500 So then the executive order tells Secretary of Defense Mattis to construct facilities or

00:17:28.740 use existing facilities to house them too.

00:17:31.240 So now we've got multiple agencies, federal agencies coming in here to talk about where we're

00:17:35.700 going to house them. And then the order urges Attorney General Jeff Sessions to prioritize

00:17:40.640 all of these proceedings so that the Flores consent decree, which says that the kids can't

00:17:45.580 be in jail for more than 20 days, that might not even matter if we can get all of this taken

00:17:49.380 care of within 20 days.

00:17:50.940 The bill that Ted Cruz proposed would have done the same thing.

00:17:54.380 It would say, let's take care of this within 14 days.

00:17:56.500 Then you don't need to worry about Flores.

00:17:58.700 Okay, let's see if that happens.

00:18:00.280 You know, actually that last part concerning Jeff Sessions is a lot of the good stuff from

00:18:05.480 Ted Cruz's bill is just in this executive order.

00:18:07.900 But can it go through?

00:18:10.800 We know from public polling that this is what most people want.

00:18:13.720 Almost the majority of Americans, mid-40s, 44% or so, 42%, say that they want the families

00:18:20.540 to be detained together, but not released.

00:18:23.080 Detained together, and then we kick them out of the country because it's a crime to come

00:18:26.480 into this country.

00:18:28.580 So also, in the executive order, when Donald Trump was announcing it, he said, while it's

00:18:33.840 consistent with the law and where appropriate, we will enforce these things.

00:18:38.540 But that isn't consistent with the law.

00:18:40.340 You can't jail the kids, and you can't let the parents go.

00:18:43.760 They've committed a crime.

00:18:44.800 You can't just let them into the country. 1.00

00:18:46.340 You have borders, or you don't have a country.

00:18:48.460 So on the one hand, this may mean that the executive order does nothing, right?

00:18:52.780 Where consistent with the law and when appropriate, just 0% of the time, might do nothing.

00:18:58.560 But the thing that it did do, and I witnessed this myself on Kamala Harris's Twitter account,

00:19:04.460 is it forced Democrats' hand.

00:19:06.460 It forced them to show what they really think about immigration.

00:19:09.540 And when it comes to Kamala Harris, it was hilarious the way that it happened.

00:19:13.180 So Kamala Harris tweets out at the, I think it was 11.15, 11.15 in the morning Pacific time.

00:19:19.920 She tweets out, this administration must end the zero-tolerance policy,

00:19:25.260 which has created this crisis.

00:19:27.040 It can be reversed by the president right now.

00:19:30.140 So then Donald Trump said, okay.

00:19:33.640 Okay, that's fine.

00:19:34.560 There's the executive order.

00:19:36.100 We're not going to separate them anymore.

00:19:37.640 There you go.

00:19:38.000 That's what you get.

00:19:39.200 So then, right after he does that, we're talking not even four hours later,

00:19:42.880 after she sent that first tweet, she goes,

00:19:44.740 this executive order doesn't fix the crisis.

00:19:47.380 Indefinitely detaining children with their families in camps is inhumane and will not make us safe.

00:19:52.800 What?

00:19:53.720 What are you, you just, did you read your Twitter account from four hours ago when you said,

00:19:59.000 we need to keep the families together? 0.94

00:20:00.560 Keep the families together.

00:20:01.580 Separating the families is inhumane.

00:20:03.240 Then four hours later, she says, keeping the families together is inhumane.

00:20:06.320 So what, what do you, do you want to go back to the other one?

00:20:12.100 Because we can, that's fine.

00:20:13.140 That's why we just rip up the executive order, go back to the, but something tells me,

00:20:17.020 something tells me that even if we did that, then she would, she would just go back and say,

00:20:22.360 separating families is inhumane.

00:20:23.880 Because what do they want?

00:20:24.860 They want open borders.

00:20:26.560 That's all they want.

00:20:27.540 Why do they want open borders?

00:20:28.920 Because every day we arrest a thousand people crossing the border illegally.

00:20:32.920 Who knows how many are coming over?

00:20:34.340 We know that those illegal aliens are more likely to identify with the Democrat party

00:20:38.580 by several multiples.

00:20:40.440 And we know that even after staying in the country for a long time, or the children of

00:20:45.260 immigrants and the grandchildren of immigrants are very, very likely to vote for Democrats

00:20:49.460 between three and 8.75 times more likely to vote for Democrats than for Republicans.

00:20:55.000 So what the Democrats want is to open up those borders, flood the country with illegal aliens 0.97

00:20:59.300 so that at least one or two generations of the future, they're importing their own 0.77

00:21:04.160 voters and they'll make the Republicans electorally extinct. 0.97

00:21:08.060 That's just what the social science data bear out.

00:21:11.420 So Trump forced their hand, right? 1.00

00:21:13.260 Because she looks ridiculous. 1.00

00:21:15.040 She made herself a laughingstock. 1.00

00:21:16.460 She said, I demand this.

00:21:17.780 He said, fine.

00:21:19.320 I'll call your bluff.

00:21:20.260 I'll give it to you.

00:21:21.040 She says, oh, I don't really want that.

00:21:22.740 Right.

00:21:23.040 You don't want that because you want open borders.

00:21:25.200 This is why the executive order seems bad.

00:21:28.180 But really, it could be a big win, especially if it doesn't actually affect policy, which

00:21:32.800 it certainly cannot, because what it actually instructs the government to do is illegal.

00:21:37.260 So it can't it can't really do that.

00:21:39.740 But this is why it might turn out great.

00:21:43.340 Illegal immigration is a huge loser for Democrats. 0.99

00:21:46.500 It is a big, big loser with a capital L.

00:21:49.160 Well, 19 percent, according to a YouGov poll that just came out, only 19 percent of Americans

00:21:54.680 favor catch and release.

00:21:56.680 Eighty one percent of Americans despise the policy of catch and release, which was our prior

00:22:01.760 immigration policy.

00:22:02.980 We catch these people and say, oh, well, we can't separate and this and that's OK.

00:22:07.600 You just go.

00:22:08.160 But you better show up to your hearing, right?

00:22:10.560 Not even a chance they're going to show up to their hearing.

00:22:12.320 The numbers get more interesting because 70 percent of Democrats oppose catch and release

00:22:17.760 of Democrats.

00:22:19.560 Sixty seven percent of Hillary voters oppose catch and release.

00:22:23.660 Sixty four percent of self-described liberals of left wingers of the left part of the Democratic

00:22:29.000 Party, which is now the whole Democratic Party, oppose catch and release.

00:22:32.140 The vast majority of voters across virtually every demographic oppose open borders and catch

00:22:38.640 and release.

00:22:39.040 It's a big winner for Trump and for Republicans on this issue.

00:22:42.620 And if he can force their hands and make them state out in the open, we're for catch and

00:22:47.340 release, we're for open borders, just like he made Kamala Harris do. 0.56

00:22:51.020 That's a big electoral winner.

00:22:52.460 I think the Democrats thought that this issue, if they could contrive this fake crisis at

00:22:56.680 the border, which has really been going on under Obama and they were silent the whole

00:22:59.800 time.

00:23:00.040 If they could contrive that before the midterms, that they would have finally get any momentum

00:23:04.460 going into the midterms.

00:23:05.800 And then Donald Trump basically flipped it right back on them.

00:23:08.880 Really good strategery, Mr. President.

00:23:11.880 Even by the way, if you look further down the line to Donald Trump's base, independents,

00:23:16.120 83% oppose catch and release, moderates, 84% oppose catch and release, GOP, 93% oppose catch

00:23:23.600 and release.

00:23:24.380 Among self-described conservatives, 93% oppose catch and release.

00:23:27.980 And of Trump voters, 96% oppose catch and release.

00:23:32.580 So it doesn't look like, as we feared with that executive order, it doesn't look like we're

00:23:36.080 reverting to that anytime soon.

00:23:38.040 He couldn't because statistically, Trump's entire voting base opposes the policy.

00:23:43.600 Very, very good.

00:23:44.380 Before we get to the mailbag, I do want to talk about this Supreme Court ruling.

00:23:48.160 There was a Supreme Court ruling came out today from the cases Quill Corporation versus

00:23:53.200 North Dakota.

00:23:54.520 And the question was on whether internet sites have to collect state taxes.

00:24:00.380 Can states demand that internet sites collect state taxes, even if they're out of state?

00:24:04.620 Right?

00:24:05.160 That's one way that internet shopping is so much better, is you can skirt a lot of taxes.

00:24:10.020 The decision's pretty interesting.

00:24:11.420 Some conservatives are angry about the decision.

00:24:14.380 Which will raise our taxes because it will allow companies to, or force companies to start

00:24:21.420 charging state taxes on the products that we buy online.

00:24:25.580 But some conservatives are complaining because the taxes go up.

00:24:28.220 But it's actually a conservative decision, which is why it was 5-4.

00:24:32.140 And it broke down Kennedy, who's a little bit of a squish. 0.95

00:24:35.340 So three of the actual conservatives on the court, Alito, Gorsuch, and Thomas, who's probably

00:24:49.580 the most originalist, they were all in favor of this ruling.

00:24:52.940 And Roberts, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan, Roberts being a squish, Breyer being a lefty, Sotomayor

00:24:58.780 an insane lefty, and Kagan, a fairly smart, still very left-wing woman, were all opposed 0.99

00:25:05.260 to it.

00:25:06.340 So the old precedent would protect these out-of-state sellers from being required to collect

00:25:11.500 taxes.

00:25:12.300 Gorsuch referred to this in the past as a judicially created tax shelter.

00:25:16.420 And the thing we should take away from this case is not that it's a good thing that we're

00:25:21.260 going to have to pay more money to buy stuff.

00:25:22.820 That's very frustrating.

00:25:23.780 I don't like that at all.

00:25:24.800 But what we should take away is the health of the judicial philosophy of the conservatives

00:25:29.280 on the court.

00:25:30.800 Originalism or textualism.

00:25:32.360 Saying that the law means what the law means.

00:25:34.700 That the words really have meaning and they don't just magically change over time.

00:25:38.200 The Constitution isn't a living, breathing document that sprouts legs and starts dancing

00:25:42.280 on the desk, right?

00:25:43.140 It's a dead piece of paper with words written on it that have meaning.

00:25:47.020 Because Justice Scalia said this to me, I had the privilege of meeting him a couple times

00:25:52.320 before he died.

00:25:53.800 And he said that the health of that philosophy is that if you're a good judge, you won't always

00:26:02.360 like your decision.

00:26:04.000 If you always like the decision that you come to, then you're probably not following the

00:26:08.540 law and following the Constitution.

00:26:10.100 But if you don't, if sometimes you're very upset with the decision you come to, but that's

00:26:14.020 where the logic of the law has led, that means you're probably a pretty good judge.

00:26:16.400 And that's what happened with conservatives today.

00:26:18.800 So I think it's broadly a win, even though it's going to cost us money.

00:26:22.220 Sad.

00:26:23.500 Let's get to the good news.

00:26:24.540 The good news on this decision is regarding Chevron deference.

00:26:28.880 So Chevron deference is this principle that on matters of interpreting statutes, the courts

00:26:36.720 should defer to the administrative agencies to whom the statutes apply.

00:26:41.880 So it's because the administrative state, the deep state, you know, the federal agencies have

00:26:48.380 gotten so out of control.

00:26:49.740 There are so many statutes that the courts have basically outsourced the interpretation

00:26:54.000 of those statutes to the administrative agencies.

00:26:57.860 This is obviously anti-constitutional.

00:27:00.180 This is a really bad thing.

00:27:01.440 In that same time I got to meet Scalia, he said the great threat to American liberty was

00:27:06.200 the administrative state, this bloated administrative state.

00:27:09.420 And Justice Kennedy just wrote, quote, it seems necessary and appropriate to reconsider in

00:27:13.980 an appropriate case the premises that underlie Chevron and how courts have implemented that

00:27:19.200 decision.

00:27:19.680 And Kennedy, you know, Kennedy's the swing vote on the court, but he's joined on to opinions

00:27:25.080 that have talked about this before, like Roberts's Arlington versus FCC dissent.

00:27:30.900 He cites Thomas and also Alito, Judge Alito, who is then on the Tenth Circuit when it comes

00:27:36.320 to Chevron.

00:27:37.620 This could be a monumental win for American liberty if the courts stop deferring to administrative

00:27:45.320 agencies when they shouldn't, when those questions should be left to courts.

00:27:50.000 That would totally upend administrative law and would be a big, big win.

00:27:53.960 America ain't over yet.

00:27:55.420 There's still a chance that we can survive.

00:27:57.800 Okay, I want to get to the mailbag.

00:27:59.440 Maybe I'll do one mailbag question just to give you a little taste.

00:28:02.200 And then we'll have to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube and get to the rest of the mailbag.

00:28:07.440 From Andrew.

00:28:10.140 Mike, I just finished listening to EP 171.

00:28:13.680 What happens when conservatives begin to feel the same way as the left and their useful 1.00

00:28:18.200 idiots? 1.00

00:28:19.000 As in, they would prefer to punish their ideological opposites rather than win them over. 1.00

00:28:23.740 I'm almost there, but don't really want to be.

00:28:26.080 Unlike their experience producing good policies, leftists are pretty good at inviting their opponents

00:28:31.100 to join them in the mud.

00:28:32.620 Sometimes I feel like we should give them the terrible treatment they pretend to endure.

00:28:37.140 You spoke about this issue with your guest, the idea that we're comfortable and can't

00:28:41.020 stand it or have lost perspective.

00:28:42.380 I do feel that a brief rash of face punching would reconvince us all that talking is a

00:28:48.160 very nice alternative.

00:28:50.600 Please exclude my last name if you address this comment.

00:28:54.820 Thanks.

00:28:55.700 My commute is consumed by the Daily Wire podcast.

00:28:58.500 Sincerely, John Smith.

00:28:59.700 No, I'm kidding.

00:29:00.180 That's not his name.

00:29:00.780 I don't even remember what the name was.

00:29:03.640 That is a great question.

00:29:05.940 So you seem to have been on Twitter too much.

00:29:11.000 That's what happens.

00:29:11.860 This happens because the lefties do just want to cudgel us.

00:29:14.640 They totally want to just knock us over the head and, you know, smack us on this question.

00:29:21.920 So they'll say, we don't want to debate.

00:29:23.620 We don't want to argue.

00:29:24.460 We don't want to talk to you.

00:29:25.400 We're just going to shut you up and no speech and heckle you and what hecklers veto, right? 0.97

00:29:31.460 My rule on this is if you're on Twitter and you genuinely get angry, that is you doing it wrong.

00:29:39.300 You're doing it wrong.

00:29:40.240 Don't do it.

00:29:41.060 Like, let it go.

00:29:42.340 Do not punch them in the face as much as you might want to.

00:29:45.620 The way that you can convince people is by laughing at them, I think.

00:29:49.700 You're not, the left is not doing itself any favors right now by screaming and whining and no, you know, and all that.

00:29:55.700 They aren't, I mean, they're losing everything.

00:29:57.820 They're losing all of the ground they'd made on the culture war even.

00:30:00.640 They're losing their political ground.

00:30:01.940 They aren't winning elections.

00:30:03.040 They haven't been winning elections since 2008, really.

00:30:06.640 So keep up what we're doing.

00:30:08.500 Laugh at them. 0.88

00:30:09.340 Expose how crazy their arguments are and treat them like children. 0.98

00:30:12.740 You wouldn't punch a child in the face. 0.99

00:30:14.160 And they are behaving like little children.

00:30:16.880 You've just got to take a firm stand.

00:30:19.800 Don't let them get away with everything, you know.

00:30:21.740 But you want them to get better.

00:30:23.860 You want them to kind of see how crazy their mania has made them.

00:30:28.540 And so, all right, next question.

00:30:31.540 From Henry.

00:30:32.120 Michael, what do you think is a good response when people say that gender and sex are different or disconnected?

00:30:38.020 This is what I think.

00:30:39.040 That is absolutely proved over and over again.

00:30:42.740 Wrong.

00:30:42.980 That's it.

00:30:44.440 It's just wrong. 0.98

00:30:45.100 It's just ridiculous. 0.92

00:30:46.300 It's a way that the left has tried to make you ignore the obvious reality that is right in front of you. 0.81

00:30:53.440 One of the essential realities of human nature, which is the complementarity of men and women.

00:30:57.540 The sexual difference between men and women.

00:30:59.300 They just want you to ignore that.

00:31:00.540 So, they say, no, no, no, that's sex, but sex too is different. 0.87

00:31:07.620 Sex, what? 0.83

00:31:08.240 What do you mean sex too? 0.96

00:31:09.040 Yeah, no, it's like sex, but it's different.

00:31:12.420 But no, it isn't at all.

00:31:13.500 Gender refers to grammar.

00:31:15.020 There are gendered nouns.

00:31:16.420 So, in, I don't know, in Italian, the word for soccer, calcio, is masculine.

00:31:23.380 It ends in an O.

00:31:24.340 It takes the masculine articles, even though it's obviously a very effeminate sport.

00:31:29.500 Those are different, right?

00:31:30.360 It's just a grammatical construction.

00:31:32.200 They apply that to human beings because they want to pretend that sex isn't a real thing,

00:31:37.300 but nobody's getting fooled by that.

00:31:39.880 We've got a lot more mailbag to get to.

00:31:41.760 Before we do that, I'm sorry if you're on Facebook or YouTube.

00:31:45.260 Got to say goodbye.

00:31:45.940 You got to go to dailywire.com.

00:31:47.720 Dailywire.com.

00:31:49.500 You get me.

00:31:50.220 You get the Andrew Klavan show.

00:31:51.000 You get the Ben Shapiro show.

00:31:52.200 All of that for $10 a month, $100 for an annual membership.

00:31:55.480 None of that matters.

00:31:56.400 This is what matters.

00:31:57.140 The leftist tier is Tumblr.

00:31:59.160 They're pouring out right now.

00:32:00.860 ABC News is so angry.

00:32:02.620 They're accusing Paul Manafort of five counts of manslaughter.

00:32:06.580 Not one, not three, five counts of manslaughter.

00:32:08.960 You're going to want to have this.

00:32:09.980 Otherwise, you're going to drown.

00:32:10.800 Go to dailywire.com.

00:32:11.700 We'll be right back.

00:32:22.460 From Noah, the bigotry of low expectations.

00:32:25.340 I've heard this before, but I don't know what it means.

00:32:27.360 Can you give us an example?

00:32:28.700 How does this affect a community at large?

00:32:31.780 Also, did I use affect correctly, or should it be the other one with the E?

00:32:36.720 Affect or effect?

00:32:38.220 No, you used it correctly.

00:32:39.560 Affect is the verb when you are going to affect something.

00:32:43.040 Effect is the noun, the effect of something that you have affected.

00:32:46.900 But affect can also be the condescending tone that I'm putting on right now, which is also a noun.

00:32:51.740 It's a little confusing, but you can hopefully keep it together.

00:32:54.060 The soft bigotry of low expectations is a phrase coined during the Bush era, and it refers to that really nice bigotry.

00:33:02.040 When basically people suggest that if you're – liberals do this all the time, especially when it comes to education.

00:33:09.940 They suggest that minority students, people from ethnic minorities or poor communities, they couldn't possibly be as successful or as smart or as educated as all those rich white people over there.

00:33:22.280 So they say, lower the standards.

00:33:24.180 Let's just – maybe we should lower the standards for them because, you know, oh, good, you got a D.

00:33:29.280 Oh, good.

00:33:30.260 That's – because of your skin color, you could never get an A. 1.00

00:33:33.780 Oh, good, good, good.

00:33:35.140 And it's just awful.

00:33:36.200 It's so insidious because it's pretending to be nice, but it's really, really wicked.

00:33:40.440 You know, it's not – the conservative stance broadly is to treat people like they're people, like they have dignity and self-respect, or at least they should, and they should do it for themselves.

00:33:50.720 But the soft bigotry of low expectations, oh, those minority people, they can't – they could never work. 1.00

00:33:56.040 They could never be successful.

00:33:56.920 Let's give them handouts.

00:33:58.260 Let's just – isn't that better for – that's nice.

00:34:00.440 Aren't – and don't forget to vote for me.

00:34:02.200 Isn't this – aren't I nice?

00:34:03.180 I'm a good person.

00:34:03.940 Aren't – yeah, but don't forget to vote.

00:34:05.540 That's the soft bigotry of low expectations.

00:34:07.520 It's really, really awful and one of the great phrases from the Bush administration to identify it.

00:34:13.240 Next question from Mark.

00:34:14.900 Dear reincarnation of Liam Neeson in Gangs of New York.

00:34:18.900 I've never gotten that one before. 1.00

00:34:20.720 That is a totally new – and whoever came up with that, I will find you, and I will kill you. 0.99

00:34:29.540 First, thank you for your best man speech advice a few weeks ago. 0.99

00:34:33.240 I ended up giving the best speech.

00:34:35.100 I'm glad that worked out.

00:34:36.180 That was a week – probably three weeks ago at this point.

00:34:39.440 I want to know what has happened to art.

00:34:42.200 How did we go from Botticelli, Tolstoy, and Chopin to the muck we have now?

00:34:46.980 How is it that the most popular art of the age has gone from something that could be described as being touched by the divine to Beyonce mumble-rapping expletives?

00:34:55.700 All the best, Mark.

00:34:57.820 World War I.

00:34:59.360 That's the answer.

00:35:00.140 World War I.

00:35:01.160 Also, the triumph of individualism in Western culture, which is sort of tied to that, but it had been building since the Renaissance or since the 16th century.

00:35:11.880 Even before that, World War I is the answer. 0.99

00:35:14.420 It's when Europe just destroyed itself.

00:35:16.840 Yeats, William Butler Yeats, the last of the great poets, wrote about this in the poem, The Second Coming.

00:35:22.460 Turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot hear the falconer.

00:35:27.340 Anarchy is loosed upon the world.

00:35:28.960 What rough beast is this slouching toward Bethlehem to be born?

00:35:32.080 The chaos that occurred after World War II.

00:35:34.320 I believe he wrote that in 1919.

00:35:36.660 Part of the issue here is that everything had been done.

00:35:39.800 There was this total breakdown after the World War where everything had been done.

00:35:45.260 All of the great, beginning in the 16th century or really before that, all the way through the modern era to World War I, everything had been done and then Europe destroyed itself and everything was in rubble and everything was dead and awful.

00:35:58.960 It had run out.

00:35:59.800 It had run out of steam.

00:36:01.480 And so the artists at this era, in 1914, there were some new things that were happening that were beginning to start.

00:36:07.600 World War II ended that.

00:36:08.800 It radically changed the world.

00:36:11.300 It ended Europe. 0.74

00:36:12.200 And so artists responded to that in three ways.

00:36:16.740 They started mocking the old beauty, sort of parody or satire of the old beautiful things.

00:36:23.200 They started deconstructing it down to its foundation.

00:36:26.080 You see a lot of fundamentalism come up in this period, artistic fundamentalism.

00:36:29.480 And then you had destruction, not just deconstruction, but destruction, destructing the idea of art itself.

00:36:36.560 Hemingway had a, by the way, I can't claim originality on those points.

00:36:40.700 Jacques Barsin writes about that beautifully in From Dawn to Decadence.

00:36:44.420 Ernest Hemingway had a line about this at the time.

00:36:47.520 I think he wrote this in 1925.

00:36:48.880 The age demanded that we sing and cut away our tongue.

00:36:52.880 The age demanded that we flow and hammered in the bung. 0.99

00:36:56.460 The age demanded that we dance and jammed us into iron pants.

00:37:00.580 And in the end, the age was handed the sort of stuff that it demanded.

00:37:06.380 And that sums it up.

00:37:09.040 Hemingway was so much an icon of that period of time that really began this decay.

00:37:15.960 And he was produced by it.

00:37:19.220 You know, he had gone through this experience of the First World War and it changed everything.

00:37:23.240 And where you see the breakdown of, like, Beyonce and mumbling all these expletive-filled rap lyrics.

00:37:31.760 I forgot to mention her in that feminism bit. 1.00

00:37:33.500 Because she, the old goddess Beyonce and the divine goddess.

00:37:37.000 Okay, consider that too.

00:37:39.140 But how do we get to that?

00:37:40.940 Because there was this movement called Dadaism, which really sums it all up.

00:37:45.920 All of those things that the artists did to react to World War I and the death of their culture come up in Dadaism.

00:37:53.840 From Dada number three, quote,

00:37:55.880 I don't even want to know that any man lived before me.

00:37:59.300 And that's what they're saying.

00:38:00.160 Dada, this artistic, this anti-artistic movement.

00:38:03.800 The word comes from the French for baby talk.

00:38:06.100 Dada.

00:38:06.760 There's this obsessive, mischievous quality to it.

00:38:10.740 It's like the old joke, how many surrealist poets does it take to screw in a light bulb?

00:38:14.920 Fish.

00:38:15.240 That's art.

00:38:18.840 That's what art had become, right?

00:38:20.020 You've gone from Botticelli to this madness and this breakdown.

00:38:23.500 And the premise of it, the premise of all of this, is that society is mad.

00:38:27.040 How else could you go through the experience of World War I without concluding that society is mad?

00:38:32.260 That some random terrorist in Serbia shoots the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and this launches a series of events that led for German militarism to try to take over the continent.

00:38:44.980 And you get mired down in this stalemate, this Western front, for four years of just Europe ripping each other to shreds, just blood and guts and mayhem pouring out of the continent.

00:38:56.340 Because of this king talking to this king.

00:38:58.860 And, you know, the Kaiser would write to Tsar Nicholas and say, dear Nicky, isn't this so strange?

00:39:03.480 You know, you'd have to conclude that the society is mad.

00:39:06.700 This comes in the wake also of Nietzsche, who says God is dead.

00:39:10.280 The belief in the spiritual elements that have animated Western culture all breaks down.

00:39:15.940 No sense, no logic, no communication.

00:39:18.340 And that defines our art today.

00:39:20.920 There's no sense to it.

00:39:22.180 It's all just Babel. 0.99

00:39:23.700 It's all Babel and it's all Neo-Dada. 0.98

00:39:26.120 That's what we're just getting the artistic children of the Dada movement.

00:39:29.780 And so you might have been hoping that I could say, well, don't worry, we're going to get Chopin back any time now.

00:39:35.600 Oh, yeah, Bach should be coming around pretty soon.

00:39:38.680 I don't see it.

00:39:40.740 You know, the Holy Spirit animates society at various points in history.

00:39:46.300 You see it.

00:39:46.740 How on earth did, after, you know, ages of total artistic death, did Dante come out?

00:39:53.660 How did these people just pop up?

00:39:55.380 How do parts of spiritual and cultural renewal come out of nowhere?

00:39:59.780 Well, you know, it just, these things can happen, but you've got to go through a lot of darkness since then.

00:40:04.180 And you can't really predict when it's going to happen.

00:40:06.400 So don't hold your breath waiting for Bach.

00:40:09.260 He's not coming back soon, my friend.

00:40:11.620 Sorry to say.

00:40:12.640 Let's get one or two more before we have to go.

00:40:14.380 From Spencer.

00:40:15.940 Oh, Hawaiian buccaneer of Sicilian descent, Knowles. 0.97

00:40:19.520 You rightly describe many leftists and even some conservatives as being lightly educated.

00:40:24.440 I love that phrase.

00:40:25.300 But in a time when interest in the past seems to be at an all-time low and means for instant gratification exist everywhere in abundance,

00:40:34.120 how and why should people go about making themselves more than just lightly educated?

00:40:40.320 Would you prescribe a specific curriculum of essential books to read?

00:40:44.420 If so, what are some of the books that you would include in it?

00:40:49.020 Spencer, P.S. Today is my birthday.

00:40:51.300 Happy birthday.

00:40:51.940 Except you probably wrote that a few days ago, so it's not your birthday anymore.

00:40:56.080 Sorry.

00:40:57.240 The lightly educated phrase is as much a self-indictment as it is an indictment of all of culture. 1.00

00:41:04.800 Because it's not just that certain people are stupid and don't read. 1.00

00:41:07.600 It's that our education system has utterly failed. 1.00

00:41:10.980 It has been utterly hollowed out.

00:41:12.540 And so even if you go to a great school, I went to a great high school, I went to a great college, you know, brand name and all.

00:41:19.280 But they've been hollowed out.

00:41:20.540 They aren't what they used to be.

00:41:22.420 Donald Kagan, the great ancient Greek historian, former dean of Yale College, said, this was decades ago, he said,

00:41:29.300 you can still get an education at Yale, but you don't have to to graduate.

00:41:33.760 And then a few years later he said, I'm not even sure if you can anymore.

00:41:36.520 And that's at the elite universities. 1.00

00:41:37.740 So this isn't, I don't mean to say, you know, I'm so smart and you're so stupid. 1.00

00:41:42.220 That certainly isn't the case. 1.00

00:41:44.400 Our culture is in the midst of just a period of total ignorance and unculturation.

00:41:50.620 So what you have to do is go right back to that canon.

00:41:53.600 Go right back to the essentials.

00:41:56.120 And you should, you know, I think all of these shows reference Aristotle like every single day.

00:42:01.300 So you should go right back there to Aristotle and Plato and you should read up through the canon and maybe, you know, just make some time for that.

00:42:10.720 The reason to do it, because there's instant gratification everywhere.

00:42:13.740 So, you know, I don't know, you could probably just eat like giant tubs of ice cream and watch internet porn and get a massage all day long.

00:42:21.620 We could do that.

00:42:22.480 We're at that point in culture where you could certainly do it.

00:42:25.260 But your life will be better.

00:42:26.740 You'll be more of a person.

00:42:27.800 You'll be more conscious.

00:42:28.620 You'll be more connected to both the society around you, your past, your history, and God.

00:42:34.780 If you throw yourself wholly into culture and into reading and knowing about your history.

00:42:40.660 It's very important. 0.96

00:42:41.700 And a lot of the political problems we're in are cultural problems and they're cultural problems because we're just so ignorant and uncultured. 0.90

00:42:48.480 So you can help fix that problem. 0.90

00:42:50.000 Start reading, pal.

00:42:51.660 Last question before we got to go.

00:42:53.840 From Jennifer.

00:42:55.080 Oh, this is a really hard question.

00:42:56.480 Hi, Michael.

00:42:57.300 I'm a Catholic college survivor of rape and was given plan B at the hospital to prevent pregnancy the night after.

00:43:04.820 Is this considered abortion or a sin?

00:43:07.320 Thanks, Jennifer.

00:43:09.580 Man, I am so sorry to hear that.

00:43:11.960 I'm so sorry you went through that.

00:43:13.220 I hope you're doing well recovering psychologically and spiritually from that.

00:43:18.460 That's the worst thing that can happen.

00:43:20.400 In many ways, it's worse than murder to happen to you because it's such a conscious robbing of your liberty.

00:43:28.500 It's so cuts to the core of what it means to be a human.

00:43:32.120 So I'm really sorry about that.

00:43:36.160 As for the question you asked, so I'll give you the answer as best as we have it.

00:43:40.080 Is plan B, the emergency contraceptive slash possible abortifacient drug, is that abortion or is that a sin?

00:43:47.760 The short answer is we don't know.

00:43:50.000 You're a Catholic student, so I'll give you the church's perspective.

00:43:52.480 The church has not declared definitively one way or the other on this because we don't know.

00:43:57.920 The plan B drug, which is different than some other of these drugs, primarily exists to prevent ovulation.

00:44:05.340 So it exists to prevent the egg and the sperm from joining together.

00:44:09.620 Now, there are two different definitions of abortion here.

00:44:12.260 The Catholic definition of abortion is intentionally killing a fertilized egg.

00:44:18.420 And the government sort of secular definition of abortion is preventing the implantation of a fertilized egg.

00:44:25.240 So the Catholic Church says that life begins at conception when the egg and the sperm are joined together.

00:44:31.220 The government says that life begins at implantation.

00:44:35.340 So the sperm and the egg join together and they are then implanted in the uterine wall and goes on from there.

00:44:42.200 We really don't know.

00:44:43.720 There was one study that came out that said that plan B does not really work to prevent implantation,

00:44:50.400 that its primary purpose and its primary function is to prevent those two from joining.

00:44:54.480 If they don't join, then certainly it's not abortion.

00:44:56.240 And there's really no way of knowing what happened in that particular case other than maybe statistically over time, whatever.

00:45:06.040 I would say the thing for you to worry about right now is how to recover psychologically and spiritually from what happened to you.

00:45:12.540 You should not right now be worrying about the statistical probability that the sperm and the egg were joined but didn't implant rather than not joining at all.

00:45:22.620 This probably isn't the time for that.

00:45:24.660 Maybe you can come to think about that later.

00:45:26.700 Maybe science will shed a light on that later.

00:45:28.820 Maybe the church will discuss it in more definitive terms later.

00:45:31.980 But what you should do is figure out how to put your life back in order after such a horrific event.

00:45:39.100 And I'll be praying for you and I hope that it turns out okay for you.

00:45:43.100 Okay, that's our show.

00:45:44.100 I mean, that's a really tough one to end on.

00:45:45.820 I hope you all survive the weekend.

00:45:48.040 You know, it is the Clavenless weekend.

00:45:49.580 That affects all of us.

00:45:50.480 It's not just because you're listening to this show doesn't mean the Clavenless weekend can't affect you.

00:45:54.080 So go over.

00:45:54.880 By the way, we're about to start work again on Another Kingdom.

00:45:58.360 I know Drew's talked about that on his show.

00:45:59.940 He has basically started to finish that draft.

00:46:04.820 So we could get a season two at some point in the next 50 or 70 years.

00:46:08.800 So you should catch up on season one.

00:46:10.440 Listen to that.

00:46:10.960 You can get that.

00:46:11.380 Another Kingdom by Andrew Claven is wherever fine narrative fiction podcasts are downloaded.

00:46:17.200 Until then, until Monday, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:46:19.540 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:46:20.660 I'll see you soon.

00:46:26.160 The Michael Knowles Show is produced by Senia Villareal.

00:46:29.420 Executive producer, Jeremy Boring.

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00:46:51.140 No idea.

00:46:53.920 What does it do?

00:46:54.540 Does it do?

00:46:55.020 Do it do?

00:46:55.560 We'll see you soon.

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00:46:56.380 Are you serious?

00:46:56.780 No idea.

00:46:57.100 I said that you should be fairly off.

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00:47:00.560 Well, we'll see you soon.

00:47:01.380 No idea.

00:47:01.640 No idea.

00:47:02.900 Anything cut between anybody?

00:47:04.360 So hopefully, you'll be back to us.

00:47:05.120 I'll get a couple of them.

00:47:06.000 The Michael Knowles Show is a bit,

00:47:06.820 yeah.

00:47:07.220 You'll see the big number of them.

00:47:08.420 That answers your mind,

00:47:10.040 you'll notice them apparently.

00:47:10.620 And, the Felicia boys have received a couple of your cuts

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 21, 2018

Ep. 172 - MSM Pleads Guilty To 5 Charges Of Manslaughter

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