The Michael Knowles Show - April 24, 2025


Ep. 1721 - Shannon Sharpe’s Disgusting Drama with 20-Year-Old Model Goes Viral


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A 20-year-old model is accusing former NFL star and ESPN personality Shannon Sharp of rape. Sharp denies the accusations and is accusing his much younger ex-girlfriend of a $50 million shakedown. But text messages have been released.

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00:00:00.000 A 20-year-old model is accusing former NFL star and ESPN personality Shannon Sharp of rape.
00:00:06.640 Sharp denies the accusations and is accusing his much, much younger ex-girlfriend of a $50
00:00:12.700 million shakedown, none of which is surprising. Both of those things, NFL players abusing women
00:00:19.160 and gold diggers falsely accusing men, both of those things happen all the time.
00:00:23.400 I don't know who's telling the truth. What is notable about this case
00:00:26.840 is that our current depraved culture actually makes it impossible to know the truth,
00:00:33.700 even for the people who are involved. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:01:53.000 it's illustrative of our culture. It's not amazing because a former football player did naughty things
00:02:01.640 with women or potentially even committed crimes with women. It's not an amazing story because
00:02:08.260 some woman is being accused of shaking down a rich guy. That's quotidian, okay? That's ordinary
00:02:15.500 stuff. What's amazing is how our culture is ordered to make it impossible to know what the truth is
00:02:25.040 for everyone, including them. What's happening here is this girl, she's now, when they started dating,
00:02:31.720 she was 19 or 20. Now, I think it's a couple years later, so she's 21, 22, something like that.
00:02:37.560 She was dating Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp is in his early 50s.
00:02:42.120 She has a $50 million civil lawsuit that she's levying against him because she says that during
00:02:49.640 their two-year relationship, he became abusive. That's what the case hinges on. Did Shannon Sharp
00:02:57.320 abuse his 19, 20-year-old girlfriend? Now, Shannon Sharp was already in hot water for weird sex stuff 0.99
00:03:04.840 because in 2024, he inadvertently made a sex tape and streamed it live to Instagram.
00:03:11.380 You can only hear it. You couldn't see it. But at first, he denied it. And then he admitted,
00:03:14.600 yeah, that was me. That's embarrassing. And I guess the sex tape was not with the girl. It was with
00:03:19.920 some other girl or something. Anyway, who cares? Shannon Sharp has been caught on audio,
00:03:25.960 audio presumably recorded by his much younger ex-girlfriend, making these damning comments
00:03:34.440 regarding this case.
00:03:35.860 You want to be a bitch to me now, so... I don't want to be... Don't manipulate me. 1.00
00:03:43.620 I don't know, I've got mercy. If you said that one more time, I'm going to
00:03:46.620 choke the out of you when I see you.
00:03:49.220 Well, I'm not really interested in getting choked, so I guess we're going.
00:03:58.400 Yeah. I might choke you in public. Big black guy chose small white woman. 1.00
00:04:08.400 It's not a good look, Shannon.
00:04:12.360 Not a good look that you do what you did to me.
00:04:16.780 Okay, so it's clear as day that it's this woman is recording him. He's not recording her,
00:04:21.880 and you can hear her audio much more clearly than you can hear his. But it is a little bit unclear
00:04:27.120 clear what the audio means. On the face of it, it's this guy threatening to choke the SHIT
00:04:33.880 out of his much younger girlfriend. Clear abuse, right? Guilty as charged, pay up the 50 million
00:04:40.820 bucks in the civil lawsuit. Except text messages have been released. Sharp released the text messages
00:04:46.920 in which his ex-girlfriend sent him extremely lewd solicitations. At one point, even included a price
00:04:53.020 list for things that he could do to her and what it would cost. Here are the key texts.
00:04:59.880 Quote, I want to be abused, daddy. End quote. I want like some hardcore BDSM, 1.00
00:05:08.400 like sadomasochistic stuff. Action, though. I want to be abused, daddy.
00:05:15.720 The lawsuit hinges on whether or not Shannon Sharp abused this young woman.
00:05:23.580 This young woman told Shannon Sharp she wants to be abused. 0.62
00:05:30.720 So I guess he's guilty, but she asked him to do it. So he's not guilty.
00:05:38.260 Okay. So final piece of evidence. The accuser released some text message conversations in which
00:05:49.220 she confronted Shannon Sharp about a particular instance of alleged rape on January 2nd of this 0.88
00:05:55.220 year. The text reads, but I cried when you left because I begged you to put a condom on and not put
00:06:01.000 it in an area that we don't need to talk about. And you didn't listen. I don't care what our history
00:06:07.200 is. No means no, Shannon. Next message from her. I don't know how to process this. Can I call you
00:06:12.840 later? So you read that and you think, okay, well, hold on. This doesn't sound like a kinky consensual 0.98
00:06:17.260 relationship. This sounds like he raped her. But how would he know? Not even how do we know? Not even
00:06:27.600 how does the judge know? Now, how would Shannon Sharp know whether or not this instance was
00:06:33.140 consensual? This woman sent him so many text messages. Some of them saying, tie me up, abuse 0.99
00:06:38.040 me. I want to be abused. I want to be violated, I guess. So how would he even know? I don't know
00:06:44.220 whether this interaction was consensual or not. And you don't know. And I don't think we can know.
00:06:50.080 So, but here's what I do know. Every single action, every single action that is alleged in
00:06:57.660 this case was illegal for most of American history in most of America.
00:07:05.100 Fornication, that was illegal. Sodomy, that was illegal. Condoms, those were illegal.
00:07:14.980 Making pornography, that was illegal. That still sort of is illegal on the books,
00:07:19.180 but it's not enforced usually. And all of this would have been illegal.
00:07:23.780 And so, I'm not saying that we have to return to some 19th century understanding of sexual ethics
00:07:30.560 in our law. Probably wouldn't be the worst idea, but I'm not saying we have to do that.
00:07:36.060 But what I am saying is, back when we had these laws for most of American history,
00:07:42.220 and when they were enforced for much of American history in most of America,
00:07:45.200 this woman would have been protected. And Shannon Sharp would have been protected.
00:07:53.680 This lawsuit wouldn't exist. Both of these people who are claiming to be victims here,
00:07:59.120 the woman claiming to be the victim of an abusive man, the man claiming to be the victim of a gold
00:08:02.920 digging woman, both of them would have been protected. Everyone would have been better off. 1.00
00:08:08.080 What did either of these people gain from this relationship? Shannon Sharp got to be titillated 0.81
00:08:15.620 a little bit, and then maybe have his life ruined. And this girl got to, even if these fantasies that
00:08:20.840 she had were sincere, she got to degrade herself because she had a perverse fantasy. And then eventually,
00:08:29.200 if she's sincere in the rape allegation, eventually she was traumatized.
00:08:33.280 That's the good stuff that they got out of this. Why do we tolerate this?
00:08:41.540 Back when we had laws against all of these things, at the very least, there was some objective measure
00:08:48.820 to say, okay, he did commit the crime, he didn't commit the crime.
00:08:53.700 Now that we have taken out all moral considerations other than consent,
00:08:58.160 based on our misunderstanding of liberty as neutrality and choice rather than
00:09:03.280 willing predicated on knowledge.
00:09:07.060 Now we have no way of knowing because consent can be withdrawn at any time.
00:09:12.260 Consent can be withdrawn even unwittingly on the part of the party that's supposed to consent.
00:09:17.280 Well, you know, she wasn't in her right mind. Well, she was drunk. Well, she was being brainwashed. 0.94
00:09:26.480 Well, she was being manipulated. That was one of the words that comes up in that phone call.
00:09:32.000 There's no way to know. One, I don't really feel that much pity for Shannon Sharp because he's doing
00:09:37.720 all sorts of depraved and degenerate things. So, you know, you get what you get and you can't get upset.
00:09:41.700 I don't feel totally bad for this girl because she says, please violate me, please violate me. 1.00
00:09:48.920 Why did you violate me? But I do, I feel bad for both of them because of their ignorance and vice.
00:09:54.880 I wish they hadn't fallen into that. But there is no way for even Shannon Sharp to know if he
00:10:04.600 committed a crime here. Because she asked him to do the thing that he's being accused of,
00:10:10.540 and yet the thing that he's being accused of is a crime.
00:10:14.720 That's what happens when you live in the subjectivist culture
00:10:17.640 that is predicated entirely on individual autonomy and preference.
00:10:24.400 Preference has changed. And now this guy's life might be ruined for it. And this woman's 1.00
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00:11:44.060 Speaking of changing mores, Pete Buttigieg just joined Andrew Schultz's flagrant podcast
00:11:50.060 to discuss the process that he underwent for ordering a custom baby.
00:11:58.260 Literally different lists. If you say that you want a white kid only versus if you say that doesn't 0.72
00:12:05.800 matter. Like literally a different list. What is that? What do you mean by that? The list for white 0.90
00:12:10.720 kid only is longer. And not only that, there was actually a discount or you didn't have to pay a
00:12:19.000 deposit on the fee. This is like how it works. I couldn't believe it. So we didn't know anything
00:12:26.120 about the racial identity of the kids until they started to look mixed race, which they are. And 0.93
00:12:32.380 like contending with like the hair thing is already like. Contending with like the hair thing.
00:12:40.160 Contending with like the hair thing because black people have different hair. So it's been a little 1.00
00:12:46.480 bit unclear how Pete Buttigieg and his partner acquired their babies because two fellas can't
00:12:54.520 make a baby together. There's a question, was it IVF and surrogacy? Was it that kind of custom order
00:13:00.220 baby industry? Was it adoption? How is it? The way that Pete Buttigieg is talking about ordering a baby
00:13:09.660 here is horrifying and dystopian. Because even if we're talking about adoption, and I think adoption
00:13:19.140 can be a wonderful thing because you are rectifying a wrong, which is the wrong of a baby not having
00:13:27.780 parents who will raise him. So that can be a good thing. It's not that you're intentionally creating a
00:13:35.680 market for babies or anything like that. It's not that you are treating babies necessarily as a
00:13:39.720 product to be purchased. You are rectifying a wrong. You're taking in an orphan. That's a really
00:13:43.820 good thing. And the mothers who give up babies for adoption are at the very least not killing the baby, 1.00
00:13:49.780 which is where our culture pushes them to do. But even here, even when it comes to adoption,
00:13:55.220 we have to be very, very careful not to treat babies as products to be purchased or even to be
00:14:04.680 custom ordered. We need to be very, very careful to treat babies as human beings, proper subjects
00:14:11.800 with dignity and rights. What strikes me about this clip, Pete Buttigieg is the most presentable,
00:14:21.840 slick representative of the sexual revolution. You know, hi, it's Pete Buttigieg. You know,
00:14:27.080 he went to Harvard. Yeah. He's been running for president since he was in grade school.
00:14:32.880 And he's just, he's totally likable. You know, just a nice guy. And yet the most polished and
00:14:42.520 attractive representative of the sexual revolution is horrifying. This is horrifying to speak of
00:14:50.880 babies this way. Yeah. You know, we got, there's the list. There's the white, there's the list to get 0.94
00:14:55.760 the white kid or the black kid. And then what kind of hair are we going to get? What kind of hair do you
00:14:59.800 want? You know, what color eyes do you want on the kid? I don't, you know, I'm just not, I don't know.
00:15:03.740 I'm not sure. I mean, when I was younger, I was more like I'd wear brown shoes and a brown belt and
00:15:09.320 a leather strap watch. But then sometimes, I don't know, I moved to like a bracelet watch. So maybe
00:15:14.000 what kind of kid would go better with my, with the bracelet watch? Maybe a blonde kid with, 1.00
00:15:18.300 with hazel eyes, blue eyes is too much. What do we think? What do you want, honey? What kind of baby do
00:15:23.840 you want? Why does Pete Buttigieg need to either order a baby through IVF or adopt a baby? Because
00:15:32.720 he refuses to get married and make a baby the old fashioned way, which is fine. It's his prerogative.
00:15:38.200 Nobody's making him, nobody's forcing him to get married. And if he wants to do,
00:15:41.780 wants to do stuff with another fella, no one's sending the purity police around to him. But,
00:15:46.480 but then Pete Buttigieg has to pretend that that's marriage. And if that's marriage,
00:15:50.700 and if we live in a culture that views children as something that we're entitled to, rather than
00:15:55.240 as a gift from God, then Pete Buttigieg is entitled to a baby and whole industries have to crop up
00:15:59.860 to, to service that supposed entitlement. And when those industries crop up, well, we are,
00:16:08.160 we are going to treat babies as something that we're entitled to, which is to say, we're going to
00:16:12.600 treat them like property. Don't be surprised. Now, President Trump wants people to have more babies. 0.70
00:16:18.620 I certainly want people to have more babies. We have a birth rate that has collapsed. We are
00:16:23.300 literally a dying country. So President Trump has a plan for a baby bonus. It's unclear exactly what
00:16:31.320 the details are right now, but the admin is reportedly looking into giving a $5,000 baby bonus to
00:16:36.440 incentivize people to have more kids, which is great. I'm all for it, actually. I know the,
00:16:41.400 the libertarians and the establishment conservative types are going to say this is bad because it's the
00:16:45.860 government getting involved and incentivizing things and whatever other, whatever other nonsense you
00:16:50.520 can expect. But yeah, the government exists, civil authority exists for our good. It is supposed to
00:16:55.840 conduce to the common good. And the, the collapse in the fertility rate is an existential political
00:17:02.920 problem. It's not just a personal inconvenience. It's not just a private misery that some people
00:17:10.040 endure. It's a political problem because if your country doesn't make babies anymore, then your 0.98
00:17:13.680 country dies. So it's a political problem. It needs to be dealt with. We hope in a wise way by the
00:17:19.340 government and paying people to have babies is a perfectly fine idea. However, we got to be smart about 0.92
00:17:24.720 it. We don't just want more babies. We want more babies born in the proper way so that we are respecting
00:17:34.680 the rights of the babies. We are actually conducing toward the common good of our country. We're not,
00:17:40.420 we're not committing immoral actions in, in our blindness and haste to pursue the good of babies.
00:17:48.160 You know, babies are good, but good ends do not justify immoral means. You can all, you can make a
00:17:54.540 baby through rape that doesn't justify rape. So we need to make sure that we're, we're encouraging a new
00:18:00.100 baby boom in the right way. We want more babies born to mothers and fathers who are married. So you could 0.75
00:18:06.740 do this through the law. You could say married couples get the baby bonus, unmarried couples or
00:18:12.060 single women or something do not. Now that'll be challenged in court. And our judiciary might be so 1.00
00:18:18.240 liberal at this point. And our jurisprudence might be so liberal that they might say, no, if you give
00:18:21.700 the baby bonus to married couples, you need to give the baby bonus to single mothers. And that would be 0.99
00:18:26.420 very unfortunate. Who knows? They might even say you have to give the baby bonus to single fathers who
00:18:30.980 go out and just make the baby thrive EF on their own or something. I mean, it, we'll have to see how radical
00:18:36.760 our regime has become. But assuming we can still legitimately distinguish in, in our law between
00:18:43.240 married couples and single people, then you have to say, okay, it's just for married couples. And I think
00:18:48.640 you need to give the baby bonus to the mothers. I'm not saying this because I'm a feminist or anything 0.82
00:18:54.660 like that. You know, I like the old traditional idea that the husband is the head of the household, but you
00:18:59.880 have to do this because we've redefined marriage in our law because Anthony Kennedy and the Supreme
00:19:04.500 Court decided to write romantic poetry in 2015. So you now have unions of two men and two women who
00:19:10.660 are pretending to be married couples. So does this mean that the Pete Buttigieg's of the world have a
00:19:16.020 right to 5,000 bucks because they go and order a custom baby? That would be very bad. That would be
00:19:20.600 disrespecting the rights of babies because babies have a right to their mother and father joined together
00:19:25.320 in a lifelong union. So if you, if you say, all right, it's for married couples and the women
00:19:31.780 get the bonus at the very least, you're, you're, you're doing this kind of Rube Goldberg strategy
00:19:36.240 to try to make sure that the baby bonus is actually encouraging babies to be born in the way that is
00:19:41.400 best for babies, best for families, best for the country, which is the whole purpose of the policy
00:19:47.840 in the first place. And before the liberals come in and argue that, you know, there's no evidence
00:19:53.260 that it's better for children to be raised by a mother and a father than by two fellows or two 0.96
00:19:56.640 women and four guys and a billy goat or something. There are lots of studies. We don't have time to
00:20:01.040 get into them now. There are lots of social scientific studies proving that it is worse
00:20:05.320 for children to be raised by two men or by two women or by a single woman or by a single man.
00:20:11.340 There are many, many studies. You don't need the studies to know this, but there are many,
00:20:14.860 many studies that show that it is much better for children to be raised by a man and a woman
00:20:20.180 who are married, who are stably married, who are married for life. So we want our policy to reflect
00:20:26.420 that. At the very least, if you say it goes to the women, then you're excluding the unions of two 0.78
00:20:30.700 fellows, you know, the Pete Buttigiegs of the world from the baby bonus. You're excluding single 0.97
00:20:36.520 individuals. You're encouraging people to get married. But we need to think of this as a political
00:20:41.700 problem. Not having kids is a major danger to your country. And this is where you get an expression
00:20:48.740 from Victorian England that has come up through our present day, which is close your eyes and
00:20:54.480 think of England. Just lie back, dear, and think of England. This is an expression that is said to
00:21:00.400 women who don't want to sleep with their husbands, but they feel that it's a marital duty. They say, 0.99
00:21:06.480 well, dear, just do your patriotic duty. Close your eyes and think of England. Well, that's what
00:21:09.760 we're telling people. We're saying, hey, guys, close your eyes, get rid of the contraception,
00:21:16.180 close your eyes, and think of America. Do your patriotic duty. Make America great again. You got
00:21:20.720 to have babies, okay? It's your marital duty. It's your patriotic duty. It is fun. Let's not
00:21:27.500 forget, it is like a fun thing to do. At least, I don't know, I'm a fellow, so maybe the women have 1.00
00:21:31.220 different views sometimes. But you got to do it, folks. Close your eyes and think of America, and
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00:24:06.200 Not everyone likes Trump's baby bonus. Establishment liberals hate it. The ladies on The View
00:24:11.460 are attacking Trump's baby bonus in the only way they know how. They're calling it racist.
00:24:19.480 They're saying that the U.S. birth rate is declining. However, in 2024, there was a 1% increase in U.S.
00:24:25.720 births. But that increase was with Hispanic mothers and Asian mothers. So they don't seem to be
00:24:37.060 concerned about that increase. They seem to be more concerned about a decrease in other
00:24:43.280 populations. Say it. No, I think I've said enough. It's not based on those. And so, well, it's just
00:24:49.900 based on a study. And so the other thing, I will say. But have they said that anywhere? I mean,
00:24:55.820 I feel like it could be fair. Yeah, it's just, it's just a study. Fair to hoe. It's just a study. 1.00
00:24:59.340 Have they said that this is to target only white families? Oh, I didn't say that.
00:25:03.160 You have to read between the lines. I just gave the stats. I didn't have them to say it.
00:25:07.660 It's racist. Don't you see? Here's the proof. Because they say that America needs to have more
00:25:14.720 children because we have a below replacement fertility rate. But we had a 1% increase in
00:25:21.340 births last year because of Hispanic women and Asian women. And so this baby bonus is just about
00:25:28.980 making more white people. And black people, I guess. But never mind. Forget about that. We're 0.77
00:25:33.360 still trying to call the Trump administration racist. It's about, it's just about white people.
00:25:37.860 We had a 1% increase last year. We had a 1% increase. What are you worried about? Here's
00:25:41.780 what I'm worried about. We've had a below replacement birth rate since 1971. That's what
00:25:46.180 I'm worried about. A 1% increase? You think that's going to solve the problem? Give me a break.
00:25:51.220 We need to increase births dramatically. And so, fine. I mean, this is what the liberals
00:25:58.820 are dealing with through mass migration. They're trying to solve the problem, the labor problem,
00:26:03.120 and get some electoral bonus for themselves through mass migration. But hold on. Just the
00:26:07.540 other day, the liberals were arguing that we needed mass migration because we don't have
00:26:12.260 enough babies in America, because we need to prop up our economy. So you were acknowledging the 0.98
00:26:17.580 problem five seconds ago. Out of one side of your mouth, you were acknowledging the problem.
00:26:21.540 But now when we move away from migration and you're not trying to justify open borders,
00:26:25.200 now you're trying to attack Trump for encouraging people to have babies. Now you're saying, no,
00:26:29.960 no, no, we don't have a birth rate problem. We don't need to prop up our economy through
00:26:33.060 artificial means like mass migration. So which is it? Furthermore, the way you know that this
00:26:39.180 argument is just so preposterous, that Republicans are just concerned with boosting the white birth
00:26:46.360 rate and suppressing the birth rates of others. If that were true, why would Republicans and
00:26:52.360 conservatives be pro-life? The pro-life movement disproportionately saves black babies.
00:27:02.560 It also saves some white babies and some Hispanic babies and some Asian babies, but it disproportionately, 0.55
00:27:11.300 vastly disproportionately saves black babies. Black babies are the most in danger of being killed
00:27:18.900 through abortion. 60% of black babies in New York are aborted. The most dangerous place for a black 1.00
00:27:25.800 person in New York City is in his mother's womb. So if conservatives just wanted relatively more white 0.81
00:27:33.560 babies than black babies, why would they ever be pro-life? It is because, it seems to me, it is morally 1.00
00:27:42.160 good not to murder babies. It is morally good to have babies. It is morally good to encourage families.
00:27:48.340 We can know this from the natural law. We can use our reason for this. And also, it is a matter of
00:27:55.380 political justice and political prudence. No, how do we, hmm, hey, listen, Democrats, how do we,
00:28:03.080 how can we possibly campaign against babies? You know, everyone loves babies, don't they? Okay,
00:28:07.180 I know what we'll do. We'll call it racist. Now, speaking of Republicans supporting stuff,
00:28:11.620 as I suggested yesterday on the show, the libs are trying to take out Pete Hegseth, 0.62
00:28:19.560 Secretary of Defense, because they think he's the weakest link and he's just the easiest scalp they
00:28:24.680 can get from the Trump administration. I said, I don't think that Trump is going to back away from
00:28:29.400 Hegseth. I think the libs have been trying to do this since before he was confirmed. It hasn't worked
00:28:33.960 yet. I don't think it's going to work right now. Vice President J.D. Vance seems to be proving that
00:28:38.680 prediction yesterday on a tarmac, reaffirming the administration's support for Hegseth.
00:28:45.060 There's a question on Secretary Pete Hegseth. There's been staffers who've come out
00:28:48.920 saying that he's not fit for the job. Do you still have confidence in the secretary?
00:28:53.200 Look, I have 100% confidence in the secretary. I know the president does, and really the entire
00:28:57.600 team does. It's one of the most bizarre things about the Hegseth nomination. From the very beginning,
00:29:03.820 the media seemed to want to take it. And when they failed and they got confirmed,
00:29:06.940 they decided they wanted to keep on that effort to destroy Pete Hegseth as a man,
00:29:11.020 as a secretary of defense. I think he's doing a great job. I think that he's brought a certain
00:29:15.240 spirit back to the Department of Defense. And if you look at our military recruitment numbers,
00:29:19.680 that's, in my view, the best testament to his leadership of the military is that for the first
00:29:25.080 time in a very long time, we don't have terrible recruitment problems in the Army, the Navy,
00:29:29.820 and the Air Force. That's a great testament to his leadership. And I wish, frankly,
00:29:33.940 the press talked more about that and not about anonymous sourcing from random staffers.
00:29:38.620 Yeah, great answer. And it's going on offense, which the admin should be doing and does a very
00:29:44.140 good job at generally. It's not just that Pete Hegseth is fine or he's okay. It's not just that,
00:29:49.880 no, no, no, he's qualified. No, seriously, really, he is. No, come on. He's not that bad.
00:29:54.780 It's not. He's very good as secretary of defense. He's very good. Just look at the recruitment
00:30:03.480 numbers. He's very good. Look at the Houthi bombing campaign. There hasn't been a major
00:30:10.620 military engagement yet since Trump was inaugurated. That's good. That's also a testament
00:30:14.480 to Pete Hegseth's leadership and certainly to President Trump's leadership. But let's look
00:30:19.380 at the military under Joe Biden. The disastrous pullout from Afghanistan, the loss of the lives
00:30:26.620 of American servicemen and of Afghan citizens, the giving up of billions of dollars worth of
00:30:33.860 military equipment to the enemy that we had been fighting for 20 years, the collapse in military
00:30:39.120 recruitment numbers. It was dreadful. And yet we never saw these headlines about Lloyd Austin.
00:30:44.020 We never saw these baseless insinuations that Lloyd Austin was irresponsible.
00:30:50.300 Even though Lloyd Austin disappeared from the job for days, didn't even tell the president.
00:30:53.880 Remember that one? And we never heard, oh, he's irresponsible. He's probably out boozing or
00:30:57.640 something like that. They say all of this nonsense about Hegseth. And yet it's not merely that Hegseth
00:31:03.000 is doing okay. Pete Hegseth is doing an excellent job. The only thing they can knock him on is that
00:31:09.760 Pete Hegseth texted other members of the administration on Signal Chat, something that
00:31:14.360 every politician and political operative in both parties does. So they got nothing on this guy.
00:31:21.360 And yet they keep going after him. I think J.D. Vance is right to raise this question. Why is it that
00:31:26.500 you guys are just so obsessed with taking him down for nothing? Pete Hegseth, for his side of things,
00:31:33.940 decides that he's going to go on offense as well.
00:31:36.240 At the Defense Department, that means no more distractions. No more social engineering.
00:31:44.220 No more climate change worship. No more electric tanks. No more gender confusion. 0.98
00:31:52.320 No more pronouns. No more excuses. No more quotas. No more woke bullshit that undermines
00:32:01.340 commanders and command climates. We are laser focused on our mission of war fighting.
00:32:10.220 Simple as. You know, I'm generally opposed to politicians using swear words in public. I don't
00:32:16.600 like it. I don't like it when Democrats do it. I don't even really like it when President Trump does
00:32:21.400 it. And I'm about as big a fan of President Trump as you could possibly get. But I think the
00:32:27.400 Secretary of Defense, I think he gets a pass if he wants to use BS or something like that. You know,
00:32:33.780 all this woke BS. He says the real word. After George Patton, if you've ever read George Patton's
00:32:40.260 speech to the Third Army, which is included in the movie Patton, and they actually had to clean up the
00:32:44.720 language in the movie Patton, which is already vulgar enough. Because, you know, Patton's whole
00:32:50.820 speech is, you know, these effers and these GD and this, all that, and the other thing. You know,
00:32:55.820 I think if you're around the military, you get a little bit of a political pass. And I think it's
00:33:00.400 very smart of Hegseth to go on offense here. Make it clear, or at least define why the people are
00:33:09.620 trying to get you. If the left is just dead set from the moment your name was floated on taking you
00:33:15.260 out, then define the issue. Make an argument as to why they're trying to take you out. And if the
00:33:22.420 argument as to why they're trying to take you out is because I want to end wokeness in the military,
00:33:26.600 I want to return the military to high standards, I want to recruit the best of America,
00:33:32.520 most courageous fighters, I want to win wars, I want to be judicious in how we use force,
00:33:37.840 and I want to be extremely lethal when we do use force. If that's it, and your opponents have to take
00:33:43.100 the other side of that, you're in a good political position. At The Daily Wire, we ask the hard
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00:34:11.740 11 a.m. Eastern on Daily Wire Plus. Now, my favorite comment yesterday is from the stoned
00:34:16.760 sailor 0672, who says, how about we all stop talking about Kanye West? We can't. We can't.
00:34:27.060 He commands attention. Some people just command attention. Remember, this is like people in 2016
00:34:33.060 said, why don't we just stop talking about Trump? You can't. Why don't we all, they would have said in
00:34:39.420 the 19th century, why don't we all just stop talking about Napoleon? You can't. He just commands
00:34:44.960 attention. I don't know that Kanye West would score very high on an IQ test. I don't know that he
00:34:51.540 would do a great job on the SAT, for instance. But the guy has a certain kind of genius. I don't think
00:34:59.080 his music is exactly Stravinsky, okay? But he has a certain kind of creative genius, and he will
00:35:06.240 command your attention, whether you want it or not. Now, speaking of people in important offices,
00:35:12.660 and actually returning just very briefly to The View, Joy Behar is voicing the opinion of many, many
00:35:19.600 secular liberals when she expresses her fear that Pope Francis will be replaced by, quote,
00:35:27.740 some conservative guy.
00:35:31.160 I was watching a 60 Minutes piece that he was interviewed on, and he said, we have to get over
00:35:38.340 our hearts to feel again. We cannot remain indifferent in the face of such human dramas.
00:35:44.240 The globalization of indifference is a very ugly disease that this country is suffering from.
00:35:49.820 That's the kind of Pope that he was, and that's the kind of Pope that I hope will replace this Pope
00:35:57.060 after the conquest.
00:35:57.680 I wonder, though, because there might be a backlash against how good he was and how much humility he
00:36:03.520 had compared to some of the leaders in this world right now. So there might be a backlash to it,
00:36:08.640 and they'll get some conservative guy in there who is anti-gay and everything else.
00:36:14.640 Joy Behar is worried that the Catholic Church, the College of Cardinals, will replace Pope Francis
00:36:20.920 with some conservative guy. With the exception of immigration, of borders and all the rest,
00:36:31.360 Pope Francis, just on political issues, was more right-wing than any politician in America,
00:36:39.560 without exception. It's not even close.
00:36:44.640 She says, they might replace him with someone who's anti-gay. Pope Francis referred to same-sex
00:36:51.280 marriage as a machination of the father of lies that seeks to deceive and confuse the children of
00:36:57.000 God. When asked if the Vatican would bless same-sex marriages, he said, God cannot bless sin.
00:37:05.980 He mocked the notion of transgenderism, of course. He said that getting an abortion is like hiring a hitman.
00:37:13.220 There is not one politician at any level of American politics who was more right-wing than Pope Francis
00:37:23.120 on political issues with the exception of the immigration issue. There's not one. Now, that
00:37:29.020 doesn't mean that you can't say that Francis's pontificate was liberal or confusing or even bad
00:37:33.740 for the church. You can say that. Pope Francis's pontificate was confusing and did sometimes raise
00:37:40.780 questions about whether or not he was being heterodox or just raised a lot of eyebrows from the standpoint
00:37:47.940 of the Catholic church. But the left-right political paradigm does not map neatly onto the Catholic
00:37:54.780 church because the Catholic church predates the left-right paradigm by 1,700 years, 1,780 years, actually.
00:38:01.240 So it doesn't, what do they mean? It does show you the fact that the liberals really, the secular
00:38:11.480 liberals who are not Christian, they seem to love Pope Francis so much. It does show you that there's
00:38:17.780 probably a reason that the Francis pontificate appealed to them. And it probably, it was some of the
00:38:22.380 confusion that came from it. Probably it was some of the seemingly contradictory statements. But to use
00:38:29.040 this phrase, you know, they are going to replace him with some conservative guy who's anti-gay.
00:38:33.920 One of Pope Francis's most famous public expressions was,
00:38:38.560 which means in English, there is already too much faggotry when he was smacking down the notion 1.00
00:38:48.900 of homosexual seminarians. Okay. So don't, you know, I'm not saying it wasn't confusing. I'm not 0.54
00:38:55.660 saying it wasn't liberal by the standards of the Catholic church. I'm not saying it wasn't even,
00:39:00.240 I'm not saying there aren't issues that are going to have to be worked out in the next modificate,
00:39:03.720 but like, come on, man. Even American conservatives, when they said this Pope, he's so left-wing,
00:39:09.100 he is more right-wing. He was more right-wing than any of the politicians you love
00:39:13.440 on every issue but immigration. So now there's a difference between religious issues and
00:39:19.600 merely political issues. There's at least a distinction to be made. I get it all. But,
00:39:23.200 you know, come on, guys. Come on. Let's look at the facts. Okay. We want the facts. Now,
00:39:28.180 speaking of immigration, new poll out from Rasmussen, 56% of likely voters say that it is very important
00:39:37.620 to deport migrant criminals. Only 5% say that it is not important at all. And you say, okay, well,
00:39:45.440 that's just among all voters, all likely voters. What do the Democrats say? 43% of Democrats say
00:39:54.320 that these deportations are very important. Only 8% of Democrats say they are not at all important,
00:40:01.220 which raises one question for me. Whatever happened to Kilmar Abrego Garcia?
00:40:08.740 You remember him? He was all we could talk about. He's the Maryland father who multiple judges found
00:40:16.360 was likely a member of MS-13 and who had a restraining order filed in court by his wife
00:40:21.840 for domestic violence. But he was a Maryland father. He was an illegal alien. He had no right 0.99
00:40:26.900 to be in America. But he was a Maryland father. Like he showed up to Maryland at some point.
00:40:31.220 And the Democrats were so obsessed with him. They wanted to make him the poster child for their
00:40:37.140 party. Senator Chris Van Hollen flew from Maryland down to El Salvador to go on a romantic lunch date
00:40:45.100 with him to caress his hair and say, are you, are you okay, Señor Garcia? ¿Cómo estás, mi amor? ¿Cómo estás, Señor Garcia?
00:40:56.400 Can I help you in any way? Would you like me to help you traffic fentanyl or some human beings or do
00:41:02.320 you? Then he disappeared from the headlines. Why? I think it's because of polls like that.
00:41:08.520 The Democrats realize it's like the trans issue. You notice the Dems are, they're backing away from
00:41:14.140 the trans issue. Even the very liberal prime minister of the UK right now saying, oh, look,
00:41:17.500 I think a man can't be a woman. The great, look, we're going to, hey, come on, give it up. It's 1.00
00:41:22.060 all right. The same thing here with, with the deportations. Mass deportations. We've, we learned
00:41:29.260 this in the 2024 election and it is proven true again and again and again. The Libs keep trying
00:41:34.340 to poison that issue. They keep trying to turn public opinion against it. Doesn't work.
00:41:37.820 Mass deportations are a mainstream popular political issue among Republicans and Democrats.
00:41:49.540 Finally, the Democrats, it took them a little while, but they're finally wise to let this
00:41:52.840 Kilmar Abrego Garcia thing go. Now, speaking of immigrants, I want to turn to a legal immigrant,
00:41:58.920 Elon Musk, Jasmine Crockett. You know, Jasmine Crockett, she's this new member of Congress,
00:42:05.480 this new sensation, liberal who says outrageous, cruel, nasty, vulgar things and gets a lot of
00:42:13.420 clicks for it. Jasmine Crockett, who I don't think is a rocket scientist, who I don't, I
00:42:21.260 don't think she's a member of Mensa. She just called Elon Musk, the wealthiest man in the
00:42:26.540 world, one of the most successful men of our lifetimes, an idiot.
00:42:31.640 Level of incompetence is almost like incomprehensible. It is so bad. And when you bring up the idiot
00:42:41.180 known as Elon Musk, he is, is not only like very sinister and has no idea what he's doing. And people
00:42:55.060 are like, Oh no, he absolutely knows because he's the richest man in the world. Like, yes,
00:42:59.820 he knows how to hire smart people, but don't conflate that and believe that he is the genius
00:43:04.600 because he ain't. Um, and so, you know, the idiot known as Elon Musk and all those clapping seals.
00:43:10.640 And what is that Jimmy Kimmel's show in the audience? You know, it's just, it's like when,
00:43:15.600 when I, when I was a boy and George W. Bush was the president and they would all say, George Bush is
00:43:20.580 an idiot. And all these people whose IQs were much, much lower than George Bush's. It was like,
00:43:25.120 George Bush, who, uh, sometimes he was inarticulate, but you know, he did. He graduated
00:43:33.160 Harvard business school, right? Had a pretty successful career, uh, became president, you
00:43:38.640 know? Oh yeah. He's a big dummy. Chris, Chris Hitchens actually made fun of Bill Maher's audience
00:43:43.840 for laughing at that. Well, she's doing the same thing, same playbook. And it means she's a very
00:43:50.820 skilled politician. Might be the only conservative in America who's saying positive things about
00:43:55.840 Jasmine Crockett, but you know, game recognized game, man, she's good. She's good. She knows
00:44:01.320 what she's doing. Jasmine Crockett is just a mixture of AOC and Donald Trump. Trump commands
00:44:09.180 attention too. And he says provocative things. He gets a lot of attention. He, he does it in a,
00:44:14.300 in a good way, like for the cause of justice and with, uh, the prospects of having a much longer
00:44:21.460 career. Trump has been at the top of his game for almost half a century. He's, he's been a major
00:44:26.540 figure in American public life since at least the eighties. Jasmine Crockett, I don't know if she's 1.00
00:44:32.540 got the legs for it, but she'll, she'll go far at least for a little while. You got to give it,
00:44:36.900 she's the new AOC. If I were AOC, I would be furious right now. I think the, the person in America
00:44:42.020 who is most likely to be angry about and worried by Jasmine Crockett, it's not some Republican. 0.94
00:44:49.280 It's not Elon Musk. It's AOC because she's taken AOC's whole shtick and she's doing it pretty well.
00:44:55.380 Finally, today we get a member block. I know, and I, I want to apologize. I've been on the road a lot.
00:45:03.740 This has been my big travel month. April is the cruelest month. And then all these new trips come
00:45:09.360 up. So I go, I visit my wonderful grandmother for Easter. And then this, I'm invited to the White 0.94
00:45:14.080 House for the Easter egg rolls. And I got to divert my whole family. We go up for the Easter egg roll.
00:45:17.440 And then I got to go to Los Angeles to film episodes for the book club at PragerU. And then I know we
00:45:21.980 haven't had a lot of membrum segmentum. So I've got a very special one for you today about the movie
00:45:28.580 American Miracle with all sorts of people. We got, you know, you know, Kevin Sorbo, you know, I'm going to,
00:45:34.220 we've got a couple other guest special actors on there. One you might know very well. The rest of
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