The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1722 - Liberal Judge Arrested for Housing Gang Members


Summary

A liberal judge and his wife were arrested for harboring Tren de Aragua gang members. George Clooney explains why the left is always attracted to the worst people, and why we need to stop letting them do it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 President Trump just issued the most important executive order of his presidencies, plural,
00:00:05.900 and virtually no one noticed. AOC is almost certainly running for president in 2028.
00:00:11.380 And a liberal judge was just arrested, along with his wife,
00:00:15.740 for housing three Tren de Aragua gang members. I'm Michael Knowles, this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the show. George Clooney, the Democrats' top lib in Hollywood,
00:00:45.020 the man who took out Joe Biden with the New York Times op-ed. George Clooney is admitting
00:00:49.740 the fundamental problem that the Democrats have looking at the next election.
00:00:55.260 And we're going to get back to my mellifluously articulated and important point in one moment.
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00:02:23.440 so they know that I sent you. This liberal judge, this is my favorite story of the day.
00:02:28.240 This liberal judge, well, it's not true. The executive order is my favorite. There are too
00:02:31.540 many good stories. It's the tired of winning problem. Judge Juan Cano and his wife were both
00:02:39.860 just arrested for harboring Tren de Aragua gang members. So this guy was, he just resigned,
00:02:46.940 a Doña Ana County magistrate judge. And it is alleged that Cano and his wife let three
00:02:54.400 illegal aliens who are allegedly associated with this Venezuelan gang, Tren de Aragua,
00:03:01.320 that is to say a foreign terrorist organization, into his home.
00:03:05.480 And I'm sure in this guy's mind, he's, you know, the good German citizen housing the poor innocent
00:03:13.400 Jews from the Nazis in World War II. And what they fail to see is that there is a distinction
00:03:21.360 between innocent people persecuted by a tyrannical government and face tattooed terrorists who rape
00:03:29.500 and murder and traffic fentanyl and break our basic laws. But in their minds, they're always
00:03:36.640 attracted to the worst people. We were just talking about this the other day. It was Scott Jennings
00:03:44.280 on CNN, the conservative on CNN. He said, I don't know why it is that the left is always attracted to
00:03:49.340 the worst people. And I do understand that actually, because their loves are disordered,
00:03:55.640 because the libs just have something off about their desire, about their fundamental premises,
00:04:01.520 about the basic aspects of their politics, then of course, they're always going to be attracted to
00:04:07.040 the worst people in the same way that your rebellious sister always dates the worst guys.
00:04:11.980 It's usually not that you date just one really bad guy and a bunch of really good guys.
00:04:15.920 It's usually not that you're attracted politically to one really bad, terrible, awful politician,
00:04:21.360 but then the rest of them are really good and wholesome and upstanding and virtuous.
00:04:24.120 It's kind of all or nothing. So the libs up to and including their judges
00:04:30.120 are so perverse in their understanding of justice and politics that their judges will subvert the law
00:04:39.540 by housing illegal aliens who are among the worst criminals on earth today.
00:04:48.000 And they've been arrested, which is good. And our political lesson from this is
00:04:52.140 more people need to be arrested. More people who are breaking our laws need to be arrested.
00:04:59.580 We tried to play nice. We tried to warn them. We campaigned. We said, hey, if you don't shape up,
00:05:05.920 we're going to arrest you. And they didn't shape up. We even said, please self-deport.
00:05:10.340 We've been saying this since the Mitt Romney campaign. You're going to self-deport.
00:05:13.280 Please don't make us arrest you and deport you. And we don't want to do it, but they won't do it.
00:05:20.720 The libs just won't do it. They just keep it up. And so
00:05:23.520 you got to follow through sometimes, okay? You need to... It's not enough to just pass new laws
00:05:32.440 or write new executive orders. It's not enough to reward people for good behavior.
00:05:36.320 You need the carrot, but you need the stick. And we need to start smacking people with the stick a
00:05:41.960 little bit. The political stick. The stick through the civil authority. The stick of arresting even
00:05:48.980 their judges. That's how corrupt the American left has become. Now, speaking of these liberal judges,
00:05:55.240 an amazing argument made by Ketanji Jackson yesterday. You know, Ketanji,
00:06:00.760 the newest lib justice on the Supreme Court, Ketanji Jackson, and the rest of the justices
00:06:07.320 were hearing the oral arguments in Mahmoud V. Taylor. Mahmoud V. Taylor is this case about
00:06:15.180 religious freedom and schools. The school board in Montgomery County, Maryland instituted a few years
00:06:21.780 ago a gay curriculum, an LGBT curriculum in elementary schools all the way down to kindergarten.
00:06:31.440 Actually, that's not true. All the way down to pre-kindergarten. In the pre-K, in this public
00:06:36.300 school, they were teaching kids, indoctrinating kids into LGBT propaganda. And they did this through
00:06:43.200 the English curriculum. They put all these sort of storybooks in that were about weird sex stuff,
00:06:47.480 even for four-year-olds. And the rationale for the program, according to the school system,
00:06:52.180 was to disrupt the binary thinking of children. So they're going in, the school is saying, we are
00:07:02.380 ordering the English curriculum for the purpose of confusing four-year-old kids about sex.
00:07:09.340 And what do you know, parents objected to that. And parents objected specifically on religious
00:07:15.340 grounds. That was the in that they found. So we're talking Christian parents, we're talking Jewish
00:07:19.300 parents, we're talking Muslim parents, we're talking all sorts of parents, appeal this case.
00:07:26.360 First, they take it to court. A lower court sides with Maryland's school district, which isn't just
00:07:31.680 some random school district. It's the biggest school district in Maryland. Then it gets appealed
00:07:36.480 and appealed. It goes all the way up to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court agreed to take the case up
00:07:40.400 in January. And Ketanji Jackson, one of the most liberal jurists in the country, comes out and
00:07:48.220 poses this question to the parents who don't want their four-year-olds indoctrinated into creepy sex
00:07:54.480 stuff in public school.
00:07:55.500 The parent can choose to put their kid elsewhere. You don't have to send your kid to public school.
00:08:03.860 I'm struggling to see how it burdens a parent's religious exercise. If the school teaches something
00:08:10.780 that the parent disagrees with, you have a choice. You can homeschool them.
00:08:15.400 You have a choice. You can homeschool. Hey, look, the left is in favor of homeschooling now.
00:08:19.460 Boy, my head is spinning. The left, which has spent decades deriding homeschooling, the left,
00:08:27.060 which has spent a century or more trying to force your kids into public school and have them learn
00:08:33.580 exactly what they want them to learn. Now they're saying, no, you can homeschool. You have a choice.
00:08:38.280 You don't have to go to that public school that your tax dollars are funding. You don't have to go there.
00:08:44.380 But it's kind of funny how this argument only ever goes in one direction.
00:08:47.680 Because I remember another case was working its way through the courts for approximately
00:08:51.460 12 years. And that was the case of Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop.
00:08:58.160 Jack Phillips, who owned probably the one bake shop in all of Colorado that did not want to create
00:09:06.500 custom cakes, custom art pieces for so-called gay weddings and weird trans ceremonies and all the
00:09:14.060 rest. And this guy was ruthlessly targeted by the gay stopo for a dozen years and by leftist lawyers
00:09:20.600 and leftist judges for a dozen years because he was the one guy. He didn't even say people who identify
00:09:27.920 as homosexual and transgender. He didn't say they can't come into his store. He didn't say they can't
00:09:31.780 buy his cakes. He just said that he was not going to use his artistic skill to create custom pieces to
00:09:37.380 participate in ceremonies that he considered immoral and contrary to his religion. This guy had his life
00:09:43.220 practically ruined by these people for a dozen years. You don't need to go to that cake shop
00:09:50.540 never factored in to the arguments from the left. And it was difficult to find a cake shop in the state
00:09:59.360 of Colorado that would not participate in so-called gay marriages and transgender ceremonies. In the
00:10:06.060 case of the school district in Maryland, this is the public school. This is a school that these parents'
00:10:12.120 tax dollars are funding. And now all of a sudden the left says, well, you don't need to send your kid
00:10:16.760 to public school. If you don't want your four-year-old indoctrinated into creepy sex stuff, then just
00:10:22.380 homeschool. Never mind that homeschooling is expensive. Never mind that homeschooling is difficult
00:10:28.820 in a society that is accustomed and feels it necessary to have two incomes. Never mind all
00:10:36.860 of the burdens. Never mind that the parents are already paying for the public school and they have
00:10:40.100 a right to not have their four-year-olds exposed to obscene content in preschool. No, no, no. Now
00:10:46.320 all of a sudden, homeschool, please, come on. You don't need to be here. When it's convenient for
00:10:52.720 the left, everyone must be brought to heel. Everyone must be forced as a matter of
00:10:58.560 compulsory law and regulation and enforcement to do what the left wants. But when the right
00:11:07.520 has a legitimate objection that can't be overcome, then all of a sudden, well, go do your own thing.
00:11:14.080 But this is why homeschooling is great. I mean, we're homeschooling. Many of my conservative
00:11:22.360 friends are homeschooling. I love homeschooling. But it's not enough. And I think this is the lesson
00:11:28.220 of Trump. The shift from the Tea Party era to the Trump era is this shift, is this lesson. Yeah.
00:11:36.980 Being left alone to do what we would like to do is good. But we live in society and ultimately,
00:11:43.840 there is no being left alone. We all have to live together. So homeschooling, it's great. It's a good
00:11:49.820 temporary fix. We need to take back the schools. We need to take back the public schools. And it's not
00:11:56.080 enough to say we're going to exempt ourselves from your creepy sex curriculum. No, no, no. We're going
00:12:01.640 to kick your creepy sex curriculum out of the school. When you violate our laws and our regulations
00:12:08.100 and our standards and norms, we're going to punish you through the civil authority.
00:12:12.920 And we're taking back our schools. And we're taking back our courts. And if you got criminal judges,
00:12:19.520 we're going to arrest those judges. And we're taking back our society. And if you're not supposed to be
00:12:23.280 here, and if you're an illegal alien criminal, you're going back. And we're going to make a deal
00:12:28.040 with Nayib Bukele. And you're going back to a prison in El Salvador. And you're not getting out of it
00:12:31.460 anytime soon. Okay. That's the difference. It's the difference between the Tea Party era focusing on
00:12:38.900 that notion of negative liberty. You know, Isaiah Berlin, the negative liberty to just be left alone.
00:12:44.040 Please leave me alone. Please, I just want to be left alone. Well, you didn't leave us alone.
00:12:47.860 And now we're not going to leave you alone. Okay. Because you know what? Left, you were right.
00:12:53.100 We live in society. No man is an island unto himself. And so, okay, we're going to participate
00:12:58.840 in society. And maybe you shouldn't have pushed us so hard because you might not like the standards
00:13:05.080 and norms that we are going to restore so that we can have a good, flourishing, great country again.
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00:14:25.020 subscription. Speaking of legal standards, this is the most important thing Trump has done.
00:14:31.240 It's an, it's an executive order. It just came out and virtually no one is talking about it,
00:14:37.520 but it is the most significant executive order Trump has ever issued. I'll just give you the
00:14:44.440 one line summary of it under, under the policy section of this executive order. It is the policy
00:14:50.120 of the United States to eliminate the use of disparate impact in all contexts to the maximum
00:14:55.420 degree possible. What is disparate impact? Most people probably have never heard of this. If they
00:15:02.620 have heard of it once or twice on the news, they don't know what it is. Trump explains in the
00:15:07.140 executive order. And I'm going to greatly pare down the executive order to just a handful of
00:15:13.900 paragraphs that really sum it up. It opens up a bedrock principle of the United States is that all
00:15:19.760 citizens are treated equally under the law, but a pernicious movement endangers this foundational
00:15:25.600 principle. A key tool of this movement is disparate impact liability, which holds that a near
00:15:33.420 insurmountable presumption of unlawful discrimination exists where there are any differences in outcomes
00:15:40.580 in certain circumstances among different races, sexes, or similar groups, even if there is no
00:15:46.920 facially discriminatory policy or practice or discriminatory intent involved, and even if
00:15:52.600 everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed. Disparate impact liability all but requires individuals and
00:15:59.640 businesses to consider race and engage in racial balancing to avoid potentially crippling legal
00:16:05.180 liability. It not only undermines our national values, but also runs contrary to equal protection
00:16:10.880 under the law and therefore violates our constitution. I'll tell you how this works.
00:16:14.240 Well, I'll tell you how this should work if it were applied equally.
00:16:18.100 A lawyer would look at the NBA and would say, okay, the country is 60% white people, 12 or 13% black
00:16:28.460 people. The NBA is 175% black people, at least among the players. I don't know about the coaches and
00:16:35.500 the executives, but among the players, it's about 10,000% black people. So there's something wrong
00:16:42.780 here. There must be racial discrimination in hiring. They're discriminating against white people on the
00:16:48.060 basketball court. Now, of course, disparate impact is never applied this way. It is only ever applied
00:16:54.900 to benefit black people or Hispanic people or racial minorities of a favored group to the detriment of
00:17:03.980 white people or, I don't know, I guess sometimes Asian people are damaged by these racial policies as
00:17:08.580 well. That's how it works. So you go in, you say, okay, here's a random company and the executives
00:17:17.660 are, let's say, I don't know, 90% white and 10% black or 5% black and 5% Hispanic or whatever.
00:17:28.380 And you say, well, okay, well that just on its face, that's evidence of racial discrimination.
00:17:32.440 Now, never, it could be a mayonnaise company. Black people don't like mayonnaise that much.
00:17:36.320 Doesn't matter. Could be a swimming company, but like people don't really swim. It doesn't,
00:17:39.320 doesn't matter. Anytime you go there and you see any differences in a racial representation,
00:17:47.760 some leftist lawyer can go in and say, this is evidence of racism, even when there's no evidence
00:17:51.720 of that whatsoever. Okay. And it's just a way for leftist radicals to bully companies and to impose
00:18:01.060 a radical racial agenda and ideology that the left has had for a long time. Trump is coming out and
00:18:06.900 saying enough of the madness because that agenda actually contradicts a more fundamental agenda
00:18:16.680 in the United States, which is equal protection under the law, which is our constitutional rights,
00:18:24.900 which used to be freedom of association. We don't really have that anymore, but at least
00:18:28.720 involves some degree of being able to operate without being presumed to be some kind of awful
00:18:36.880 hateful, hateful bigot who's, who's, uh, you know, intentionally harming people and excluding
00:18:41.880 them from society. Really, really big thing. This is, this is, as Trump says, this is a key tool
00:18:49.120 of this leftist movement that has sown so much discord into the country and really damaged our
00:18:54.360 country. It's so undermined a bedrock principle of the country and he just slips it in there. So it
00:19:00.620 would be great if some of these executive orders could be codified into law. The Congress is having
00:19:05.200 trouble doing that because it's a tight majority, but what we're seeing now with, with the Trump
00:19:12.400 admin, because much of what they can do is just through executive action, we're seeing what the
00:19:19.480 country could look like. Here's just a little test. Here's what we, what we could have. And if we,
00:19:26.460 if we do want that to survive into the next administration, we need to codify these things
00:19:30.380 in law. Meanwhile, the left is already preparing its presidential candidates. And this one,
00:19:37.580 well, I warned you about this a week or two ago, but my prediction, my Nolstradamus prediction appears
00:19:43.280 to be correct. I, and you know, this is after I made Democrat Senator Chris Van Hollen actually
00:19:49.940 bring a meme that I had created to life when he went down and had that romantic lunch date with
00:19:54.420 Kilmar Abrego Garcia. And well, this would appear to be another one, you know, I hate to say I told
00:19:58.520 you so. AOC just put out this political commercial. Tell me what you think she's doing here.
00:20:10.680 You know, Idaho, I am so touched being here. I'm a girl from the Bronx. To be welcomed here in this
00:20:20.040 state, all of us together, seeing our common cause. This is what this country is all about.
00:20:26.780 Don't let them trick us into thinking we are enemies. Don't let them trick us into thinking
00:20:32.700 we can be separated into rural and urban, black and white and Latino. We are one.
00:20:38.780 And Idaho, I know that looking around here, it can feel impossible for Republicans out here to be
00:20:46.340 defeated. That's not true. It's simply not true. And from the waitress who is now speaking to you
00:20:55.320 today from this podium, I can tell you impossible is nothing. She's running for president. In case
00:21:04.780 you're the one person out there who didn't catch it, she's running for president. What is AOC doing in
00:21:11.460 Idaho? Some people think she just wants to challenge Chuck Schumer or someone, become a senator from New
00:21:18.100 York. That's when you campaign in Albany. That's when you campaign in Buffalo. She's in Idaho and
00:21:26.760 she's showing these big crowds with all the presidential lighting. She's doing the thing
00:21:31.080 that all the consultants for the presidential ads tell you to do, which is introduce yourself to the
00:21:35.160 people. Opens up, hello, Idaho. I'm a girl from the Bronx. She's pretty famous. So people know that,
00:21:41.480 no, you got to introduce yourself. And then you have to bring people together. AOC is known for
00:21:46.620 rather divisive rhetoric, class warfare, intense leftism, being dismissive and derogatory toward
00:21:57.780 people on the right, but not in this ad. In this ad, she's just doing her own imitation of Barack Obama
00:22:02.960 in 2006. There's no red America. There are no white America, blue and purple and orange America
00:22:10.320 or United States of America. This whole kind of nonsense routines are the most divisive,
00:22:15.940 nasty figures in politics, pretending that they're all going to come and bring us together
00:22:19.140 and sing Kumbaya. But that's what she's doing. They're going to divide us into white and Latino
00:22:26.280 and black and black, but we're all united. We're united? When is AOC is the great uniter now? Yeah,
00:22:34.840 because you have to be when you run for president. And that lady is running for president. And the
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00:27:02.060 Even George Clooney, no less a Democrat than George Clooney, the Democrats top guy in Hollywood.
00:27:07.020 The man who took out Joe Biden with a New York times op-ed that was probably ghostwritten by Barack
00:27:12.160 Obama, if we're all being totally honest about it. George Clooney just sat down for an interview.
00:27:18.540 He, he identified what is in his mind, the biggest problem for the Democrats.
00:27:23.820 They don't have anybody that's as charismatic as him. He's charismatic. There's no taking that away
00:27:28.800 from him. He's a television star. If you're a Democrat, we have to find some people to represent
00:27:33.920 us better, who have a sense of humor, and who have a sense of purpose. Okay. For starters,
00:27:45.280 the new hair is kind of weird because he had gray hair and now he has this jet black hair.
00:27:51.020 However, people are making fun of him for it. I kind of like it because it's very old Hollywood.
00:27:55.180 George Clooney has always been this kind of pale imitation of old Hollywood.
00:27:58.000 He's one of the few guys who could credibly claim to be a movie star. He ain't John Wayne. He ain't
00:28:03.560 Gary Cooper. Has he ever really opened a big movie? I don't know. He's been in a lot of movies, but
00:28:07.940 nevertheless, I kind of like that he's doing this throwback to old Hollywood. These guys in the
00:28:11.840 seventies who put, you know, just pen ink in their hair and, you know, it, it kind of, there's something
00:28:17.380 kind of charming about it. Okay. That's the first part. Second part. He says that Trump's big
00:28:24.980 advantage over the Democrats is that he's charismatic and he is charismatic. He's got a
00:28:31.240 great personality. He's a TV star. Yes, of course. Biggest personality in the room. Of course.
00:28:37.640 But, but Clooney is, is missing it here. And, and the Democrats missed this point at their own peril.
00:28:43.000 So I don't really care. If, if you're a Democrat listening, please don't tell the strategists
00:28:47.040 the secret. Trump did not win because of his personality. Trump won because he offered different
00:28:57.460 policies. That's it. Some people voted for Trump because of his personality. Some people did not
00:29:03.840 vote for Trump because of his personality. The personality I think was essentially neutral.
00:29:10.300 Trump offered a different political vision in 2016. First, a different political vision from
00:29:14.940 the other Republicans. They all wanted more and more free trade, more and more globalism.
00:29:19.820 Trump said, no, we're going to impose tariffs, trade restrictions. We're going to turn from
00:29:25.220 globalism to nationalism. That was a different view. All the Republicans ran on, maybe they would talk
00:29:33.740 about securing the border, but they basically said, you know, migration, we're a country of immigrants.
00:29:39.420 It's, you know, we gotta, we gotta get a little tighter about the border. Trump comes down,
00:29:42.260 he says, these migrants are rapists and murderers. It's different. That's a different
00:29:46.920 kind of view. All the Republicans were still defending the Bush era of foreign policy,
00:29:52.040 bombing the Middle East, trying to build Madisonian democracies there. Trump said the Iraq war was
00:29:57.400 stupid. You might even defend the Iraq war. I'm just pointing out Trump offered a different
00:30:02.760 substantive policy vision. I remember Ann Coulter said this at the time. She said, everyone thinks
00:30:08.040 that people voted for Trump for his personality, despite his policy, when actually it's the opposite.
00:30:14.420 They voted for Trump for his policy, despite in some cases, his personality. And the libs can't
00:30:20.320 really face that. Because if they say, oh, it's just because he's more charismatic, then the libs
00:30:25.420 don't have to change anything. Then the Democrats can just keep their party exactly as it is. And they
00:30:29.420 just need, they just need to get George Clooney to run. I don't know, who knows? Maybe George Clooney
00:30:32.160 wants to run for president. He's obviously interested in politics. He's one of the most politically
00:30:36.760 active people in Hollywood. Maybe, maybe that's why he dyed his hair. Maybe he's trying to set
00:30:39.780 himself up for a 2028 run. But they, the Democrats will not be successful if that's the lesson they
00:30:47.400 take. If the, if what they think is, no, no, we're perfect the way we are. We just need to be a
00:30:51.680 little, we need to smile more on camera or something. You're going to lose. You're going to, you have to
00:30:57.260 deal with the reality that the popular vote went to the guy who ran on mass deportations. The popular
00:31:06.480 vote went to the guy who ran on tariffs. The popular vote went to the guy who ran against
00:31:12.420 the transgender insanity. You got to deal with those issues. But as long as you're going down
00:31:18.860 and canoodling Kilmar Abrego Garcia in El Salvador, you know, stroking his hair and saying, it'll be
00:31:24.640 okay. We'll be able to import you and the rest of MS-13 back into America real soon. You're going to
00:31:29.420 lose. The more you push and push on peddling LGBT insanity to four-year-olds, you're going to lose.
00:31:39.820 And I don't care how charismatic your, your politician is. I don't care how charismatic
00:31:44.740 Trump is. You're going to lose because of the issues, not because of the personality.
00:31:49.700 Now, speaking of uncharismatic Democrats, Michelle Obama is back in the news.
00:31:54.780 She is finally explaining some of her strange behavior earlier in the year. Michelle Obama
00:32:00.760 has, has disappeared from public life until now. Now she wants some more attention, but
00:32:05.660 Barack Obama showed up alone to Jimmy Carter's funeral. Michelle Obama didn't show up. Michelle
00:32:13.220 Obama didn't show up to the inauguration, right? Where has Michelle Obama been? This is very unusual
00:32:19.320 for a former first lady not to show up to the handful of events that they are expected to show
00:32:25.600 up to by virtue of their position. The funerals of past presidents and major events of state,
00:32:33.220 such as the inauguration of a new president. Here's her explanation.
00:32:36.820 My decision to skip the inauguration, you know, what people don't realize, or my decision to make
00:32:44.040 choices at the beginning of this year that suited me were met with such ridicule and criticism.
00:32:50.680 While I'm here really trying to own my life and intentionally practice making the choice that
00:32:58.080 was right for me. And it took everything in my power to not do the thing that was right,
00:33:04.580 or that was, was that, that was perceived as right, but do the thing that was right for me.
00:33:10.560 Mm-hmm. That was a hard thing for me to do. It was hard for me to not do the right thing.
00:33:18.620 It was really hard for me to do the wrong thing. And I should be applauded for that.
00:33:26.700 I, I did it. I succeeded at doing the wrong thing. Aren't you proud of me? You see, because
00:33:34.160 people thought I should do the thing that was good for everybody, where I took other
00:33:40.480 people into consideration by virtue of, at the very least, all the things other people have done
00:33:45.800 for me, made me the first lady of the United States. And because I'm supposed to care about
00:33:51.280 the common good. And, but I wanted to just be really, really selfish. And it was hard to be
00:33:58.180 selfish, but I, I was selfish. Please give me a round of applause. That's what she's saying.
00:34:03.020 And it's not just her. I'm not just singling up Michelle Obama. You hear every lib talk about
00:34:12.580 this. Kim Kardashian said this. Kim Kardashian, mother of how many children, wife, a few times
00:34:19.640 over. Kim Kardashian said, you know, in my forties, I'm just going to really focus on me.
00:34:23.860 Excuse me? No, that's not what you do in your forties. That's not what you're supposed to do.
00:34:31.860 You focus on you when you're a little baby. And then you focus on you even when you're a kid and
00:34:36.920 a teenager and probably even into your early twenties, unfortunately. When you're 40 and you
00:34:41.580 have a lot of responsibilities and you have people who depend on you and that's not you time. When you're
00:34:48.060 the first lady of the United States, look, that comes with a lot of privilege. You get to live in the
00:34:52.860 White House. You get, you get a lot of money when you leave the White House. You get protection. You
00:34:58.600 get adulation. You get cheering crowds, but there is a cost to that. You're supposed to serve the
00:35:05.340 public. You're supposed to not always put your selfish interests first, but you hear this Obama
00:35:11.480 down to Kim Kardashian down to your rebellious liberal cousin or sister. You know, I'm just going to
00:35:18.440 focus on me. It's so hard. You see this on Instagram. It's so hard. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is
00:35:23.880 to put yourself first and to love yourself. And you need to heal yourself and you just need to focus,
00:35:29.960 forget about other people. Don't do what's right for them. Do what's right for you. You, you, you. Me, me,
00:35:35.100 me. All through the night. I, me, mine. I, me, mine. I, me, mine. Me, me, me, me, me. Well, a man
00:35:39.620 wrapped up in himself makes a small package indeed. This is, she's, she is talking about selfishness
00:35:45.240 and the left broadly talks about selfishness as though it were a virtue, as though it were difficult.
00:35:53.180 I'm selfish too. I try not to be selfish, but I am selfish. I'm very selfish. It's very easy to be
00:35:58.360 selfish. It's very hard to be charitable and to think of others, but that's what we have to do.
00:36:07.360 One, for our own good, because if you become totally selfish, you'll, you'll destroy yourself.
00:36:12.460 You'll make of yourself a God and your God will disappoint you. But also because we're a political
00:36:17.220 animal. We're a social creature. We're born into the context of, of community. Really, it's bad
00:36:24.480 enough when you're totally uneducated, rebellious, liberal sister posts nonsense like this to
00:36:29.740 Instagram. Here we have the former first lady of the United States saying exactly the same thing.
00:36:35.220 But that's it. That, to me, this is the big distinction between the right and the left.
00:36:38.900 Certainly today, and probably that's what it's always been.
00:36:43.360 Contrary to what you've heard about the bleeding hearts, you know, caring, wonderful liberals,
00:36:48.060 the liberals ultimately, ultimately are focused on the self.
00:36:52.540 And the conservatives, ultimately, ultimately, I know we, you know, sometimes we like low taxes and
00:37:00.240 all the rest of it. But when you really get down to it, we have a conception of the common good for
00:37:06.020 the country that is truly about the common good and not just the amalgam of private interest.
00:37:11.720 This, in Pascal's Ponce, Blaise Pascal, one of the great geniuses of modernity,
00:37:19.980 the best known for Pascal's Wager, where he says you should believe in God because it's just the
00:37:24.240 rational bet to make. But Pascal said, you know, our concupiscence is such that we
00:37:31.180 try to manipulate our concupiscence. We try to manipulate our selfishness so that we create
00:37:39.600 enough incentives that it will be good for everyone. And we confuse that with charity,
00:37:43.700 but that's not really what charity is. The left and the right have both done that
00:37:47.520 to some degree. We try to create systems that will channel our private interest
00:37:53.580 toward helping others. You know, in many ways, that's kind of what capitalism does.
00:37:59.060 But that's not real charity. And at least for the right, we have a conception of charity that we
00:38:03.940 often fail to live up to. Hypocrisy is the tribute vice-based virtue. For the left,
00:38:07.600 they've actually redefined charity as to be selfishness. Any wonder we are where we are,
00:38:16.760 and any wonder that that political party, which has been exposed so clearly in recent years,
00:38:21.060 is finally being kicked to the fringes of politics. At the Daily Wire, we ask the hard questions.
00:38:26.380 We go get the answers. That is why Ben just went to Ukraine, a nation under fire, for an exclusive
00:38:31.260 sit-down with President Vladimir Zelensky. And I really hope he handed him a receipt for all that
00:38:35.480 money that we've given him over the years from USAID and corruption to, in fairness, Putin's
00:38:42.080 ambitions and the battle for religious freedom. Nothing is off limits. This is not spin. This is
00:38:46.620 clarity in the fog of war. Part two of the Ben Shapiro with President Zelensky interview drops
00:38:52.640 today. All new episode of the Ben Shapiro show streaming at 11 a.m. Eastern time only on Daily Wire
00:38:58.480 Plus. My favorite comment yesterday is from SlapMyBase3825, who says,
00:39:04.520 with everything we have seen in the NFL, from Ray Rice to Michael Vick, does this Shannon Sharp story
00:39:09.620 surprise anyone? It does not. It certainly does. I said yesterday, you know, it's not exactly man
00:39:14.100 bites dog. Either way, the story shakes out. NFL player abuses women or gold digger shakes down rich
00:39:21.020 guy. And neither of those would be surprising, however this turns out. The one difference,
00:39:25.920 though, is in the case of like Michael Vick, for instance, the pit bulls never sent text messages
00:39:32.900 explicitly asking for the supposed crime that was committed, which is actually a crime.
00:39:37.620 That's what makes it so interesting. The Shannon Sharp case alleges abuse, which is very wrong and
00:39:48.680 probably a crime. The girl who is alleging abuse, the plaintiff, explicitly asked this man multiple
00:39:58.860 times in lurid, graphic, disgusting ways to abuse her. And then he obliged. And then she's saying that
00:40:07.820 was a crime. And it is a crime. But that's why the story is so confounding to modern people for whom
00:40:12.700 consent is the sole moral criterion. Finally, finally, we've arrived at my favorite time of
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00:40:32.560 Hello, Mr. Knowles. I have a question about having more children. I know that you've got your kiddos,
00:40:36.780 and I would assume that you're planning on having some more in the future. Me and my wife have been
00:40:40.460 married for almost eight years now, and we have a young family with two little ones. Recently, my
00:40:45.500 wife and I have discussed when we should have more children of our own. She's still a little reluctant
00:40:50.140 because obviously the women are the ones that have to go through the child rearing and the birthing
00:40:54.380 process. Of course, that's a difficult thing to go through physically. However, her main concerns are
00:40:59.440 about the timing in terms of our older children are growing up. She doesn't want to miss out on their
00:41:04.280 upbringing as they are growing up. We're a one-income family. I work. She stays at home, so she gets to see
00:41:09.480 them more than, you know, if we sent them to a daycare. However, she's a little concerned with
00:41:13.840 splitting her attention three ways instead of two or four ways instead of two. How would you go about
00:41:19.700 dissuading her concerns to make sure she's just as every bit on board and 100% as I am? I think
00:41:25.460 some motivation from our favorite Daily Wire host would go a long way, as well as some spiritual
00:41:29.940 insight. Thanks for all you do. Yeah, she's fine. The best gift you can give your kids is siblings.
00:41:36.540 Forget about it. Forget about that. What, she thinks she's not going to see the kids grow up? But as you
00:41:42.460 say, she's a stay-at-home mother. She gets to see her kids more than just about anybody in modern
00:41:47.020 society. Don't forget about that. Come on. She's fine. Have some more kids. That's what I would say.
00:41:52.760 And I've seen it. I actually don't have siblings. I have step-siblings who, you know, I'm like quite
00:41:58.260 close with my stepbrother. And so, you know, I got a little taste of siblings, but I didn't have
00:42:06.500 them growing up. So oddly enough, I kind of saw both sides of having siblings and not having siblings.
00:42:11.320 And I've just seen with big families, it's just good. It's better. And a friend of mine told me
00:42:19.060 this quite clearly. He has a lot of kids. He says, the best gift you can give your kids
00:42:21.940 is siblings. If you had told me, Michael, we're in difficult circumstances. You know,
00:42:28.120 my wife has had two C-sections or three C-sections. I might say, okay, maybe on doctor's orders,
00:42:33.900 it makes a little more sense to not have Irish twins back to back to back. Maybe you could space
00:42:38.440 them out a tiny little bit or something. Okay. I understand that. Or if you said, Michael,
00:42:41.640 we don't, we're destitute. We don't have any money. My wife and I are both working and we just
00:42:45.820 can't make ends meet. I'd say, okay, well, I understand there's some considerations here. Okay. Maybe
00:42:50.040 whatever. But, oh, it sounds like you and your wife are in the perfect position to have a bunch
00:42:56.300 of kids, which is the greatest kind of wealth that one can imagine in a household, especially today.
00:43:02.460 So do it. Have more kids. Have more kids right now. Next one.
00:43:08.580 Hello, Michael. On Tuesday's show, you spoke of that journalist who was praising Luigi for killing
00:43:13.720 that CEO. A few weeks ago in Madera, California, a man shot up a Walgreens killing a man.
00:43:19.620 This might sound like it was a random shooting, but it wasn't. When arrested, the shooter admitted
00:43:24.840 that he had a, quote, general disdain or grudge against pharmacies. In my opinion, this is obviously
00:43:31.300 inspired by Luigi and all the glorification he was given by the left, making others believe that
00:43:36.860 it's an acceptable action to kill when you have a grudge against those in the medical field.
00:43:41.740 This innocent man wasn't a rich CEO. He was a cashier trying to provide for his family. And now his
00:43:47.460 wife doesn't have a husband and his kids don't have a father. I wanted to hear what your opinion
00:43:52.120 was as to whether you thought this was inspired by the Luigi case or just a coincidence. Thank you
00:43:58.440 and God bless. It could be inspired by the Luigi case. I don't know for certain, but one issue I'll
00:44:05.540 take with the way you presented it is you said, look, this guy behind the counter, he wasn't a rich CEO.
00:44:09.460 Well, so what if he was? It doesn't make it any easier for the poor healthcare CEO's wife and kids
00:44:16.240 that they just lost their husband and father because he was rich. I think he was also a
00:44:22.140 self-made guy. I don't even think, but even if he weren't a self-made guy, it wouldn't,
00:44:24.780 it doesn't change the calculation. It's just always awful. So the real issue here is not the,
00:44:34.180 you know, uh, the left is glorifying Luigi in particular. The real issue here is not even
00:44:40.980 that there is a big turn against the pharmaceutical industry. The issue here is the moral thinking
00:44:46.900 that, uh, intrinsically immoral actions can be justified for good ends. That's the problem.
00:44:55.340 And that is thinking that has pervaded our society for hundreds of years at this point. And that even
00:45:01.040 many people supposedly on the right will, will, uh, accept this, this kind of consequentialism that
00:45:08.320 says, well, yeah, I know I was told thou shalt not commit murder, but what if he, the guy works for
00:45:14.660 an industry that I really don't like? What if it'll be good in the long run? You know, maybe you got to
00:45:19.500 crack some eggs to make an omelet. That, that, that moral thinking is, is far more culpable than
00:45:25.300 the, these random leftists who are simping over Luigi. I mean, they're, they're culpable too, and
00:45:31.420 they need to shut up and, you know, go pray and, uh, fix themselves and be fixed. But, uh, the, that
00:45:38.780 deeper consequentialism, that's a, that's a big problem. Because we're, we're told now that the
00:45:44.360 Ten Commandments are a joke. We mock the notion of the Ten Commandments. We mock the notion that
00:45:49.420 actions can be intrinsically evil. We mock the notion that there is even a transcendent moral
00:45:55.040 order, but we have to behave as though there is some kind of moral order. So the moral order becomes
00:45:59.920 highly ideological and ultimately consequentialist. As long as we get to whatever vision we have for
00:46:05.960 politics, even if it's utopian, then anything we do along the way can be justified, which is a real,
00:46:12.740 uh, convenience for people who commit habitual sin. Next, next question.
00:46:20.860 Mr. Michael Knowles, this is your friend and second favorite UFC fighter, smiling Sam Alvey.
00:46:26.240 I just had to let you know my next fight is in about three weeks. May 2nd, I'll be fighting for
00:46:31.600 Karate Combat again, but this time in Dubai, and this time for my second world title. Now, of course,
00:46:37.940 I want you back in my corner, but this is quite the trip and you're already away from your
00:46:41.920 lovely, sweet little Lisa, too much as is. What I would like to talk to you about, though,
00:46:46.780 is a sponsorship. One of my fondest fighting memories is defending my title with you in my
00:46:52.560 corner, hands up and breathe. You remember that? And after getting my belt put back around my waist,
00:46:58.480 lighting up a Mayflower cigar with you in my corner. Now, normally I would charge thousands of dollars
00:47:04.140 to be on a shirt and get full access to my social media, but for you and those delicious Mayflower
00:47:09.260 cigars, I would do it for a cigar. After I get my hand raised, I will light that bad boy up in my
00:47:15.780 corner in your honor. What do you think, my friend? That sounds great, Sam. And now I actually wish that
00:47:22.680 I could accompany you to Dubai because that sounds like a lot of fun, though you're right. Sweet
00:47:26.780 little Elisa would probably do a little Karate Combat on me if I took a trip to the Middle East right
00:47:30.620 now. However, that's a pretty good deal. You know, some of you don't know, I did corner for Sam at
00:47:36.040 Karate Combat. And we had a whole great video about it that for whatever reason we weren't able to
00:47:40.080 release yet. Hopefully we'll be able to get that video out. This was a while ago. But that's a
00:47:44.120 pretty good deal. This is the art of the deal. Sam, expect some cigars to be coming your way shortly,
00:47:49.700 especially in Dubai where they let you smoke in a bunch of places. You can smoke in nightclubs and
00:47:53.800 things like that. This is good stuff. I'm in. I'm in. Old Knuckle Knolls over here is in, Sam. Next question.
00:48:01.220 Hi, Michael. It's the Shuckmeister. I was out to breakfast with a friend recently and we were
00:48:06.520 talking about the places where we get our news. I mentioned the show, obviously. And he said that
00:48:10.960 he appreciates you, but that you failed a very basic intelligence test. And I'm thinking, okay,
00:48:16.220 what's it got to be? It's got to be something super spicy, right? And he said, once upon a time,
00:48:20.320 you called The Great Gatsby a boring book. So given that we recently passed the 100th anniversary of
00:48:26.020 the publication and that I reread it for the first time since high school and loved it,
00:48:29.960 I would like to know, why do you think The Great Gatsby is a boring book? Love the show.
00:48:33.880 Thanks. Did I say that? I actually, I'm not trying to run away from my opinion. I just don't
00:48:40.900 recall ever having said that because I like The Great Gatsby. It's not my favorite book ever. It's
00:48:45.640 not the greatest book ever written, but I like The Great Gatsby a lot. I like Scott Fitzgerald a lot.
00:48:51.520 Scott Fitzgerald famously said that Harvard men are sissies and Yale is November crisp and energetic.
00:48:56.600 So I don't, I think I'm being unfairly accused here. I, maybe I said it at some point. I mean,
00:49:02.200 I guess it's boring compared to, I don't know, crime and punishment or something or war and peace,
00:49:08.460 but I don't, I like The Great Gatsby. What are you accusing me of? What this is,
00:49:15.940 I think I'm being falsely accused and I demand satisfaction. Today, speaking of fake news,
00:49:21.960 is Fake Headline Friday. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it.
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