Ep. 1727 - This Was NOT the Return Kamala Hoped For
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Health and Human Services Secretary Bobby Kennedy announced a major change to federal vaccine policy yesterday, but it's a change that has been in the works for decades. And it's one that could have a big impact on the future of childhood vaccines.
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A month ago, I sat down with Health and Human Services Secretary Bobby Kennedy at the White House
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and asked him if anything would change about vaccine policy under his leadership.
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And yesterday, Kennedy made good on that promise with a major shakeup to federal vaccine policy.
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And what's going to shock people the most, I think,
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is that Kennedy's new policy has not already been policy for decades.
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Not that De Niro's a woman, but that he himself, the son, is a woman.
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We'll get into the epidemic of trans kids in Hollywood.
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What's the big change that the government has been resisting for decades that it took a radical,
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fringe, anti-vaxxer like Bobby Kennedy to introduce?
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The potential change is that all new vaccines must undergo safety testing with placebos.
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And the big surprise, for anyone who cares to read beyond the headline here,
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the big surprise is going to be that we have not already been safety testing the vaccines with
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How do you not use a placebo to check the safety of a vaccine,
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or to test the efficacy of a vaccine for that matter?
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We use placebos in so many other kinds of trials.
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it would be unethical to safety test the vaccines with placebos,
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And we know for certain the vaccines are so good that it would just be terrible to not
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Wait, now you've just undermined the safety trial entirely.
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That's the most circular logic I think I've ever heard.
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We know the vaccines are so safe that when we're testing their safety,
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we're not actually going to use placebos and controls,
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because we already know they're so safe in the first place.
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So why would we ever need to test their safety?
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Because we said so, not because we undertook rigorous safety analysis.
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Dr. Fauci just sprung out of my throat there, I guess.
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Interesting how the top health officials all have novel voices,
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And the public health officials who squandered all of their credibility during COVID
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by lying to us repeatedly, they got the chickens coming home to roost right now.
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Because for a while, it seemed like they were stuck.
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They couldn't ever admit that there might be some problem with vaccines,
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that actually the government pays people who are vaccine injured.
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They kind of just try to sweep all this under the rug.
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They couldn't admit that their safety experiments, their safety trials rather,
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did not use placebos because it would raise all of these questions.
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So now that Kennedy is introducing totally common sense, reasonable, modest reforms,
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I think it's going to actually exacerbate the backlash against vaccines
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because people are going to say, wait, why haven't you been doing this from the beginning?
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It's starting to look like the government is hiding something.
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He ran pro-science, pro-safety trials, pro-common sense.
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I guess that's the theme of the whole Trump administration.
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Meanwhile, Kennedy's former opponent in the Democratic presidential primary
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or potential opponent in the Democrat presidential primary
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and Trump's actual opponent in the presidential election, Kamala Harris,
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She took a little sabbatical after she got destroyed in the election.
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She is now delivering her first major remarks since the election
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and since leaving the office of the vice president.
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What pearls of wisdom does Kamala Harris have for us?
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In fact, please allow me, friends, to digress for a moment.
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It's kind of dark in here, but I'm asking a show of hands.
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The one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo during the earthquake?
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Everybody's asking me, what you've been thinking about these days?
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There is nothing to fear, but fear itself, says Franklin Roosevelt.
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We shall fight on the beaches and in the streets, says Winston Churchill.
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Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall, says Ronald Reagan.
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And you all see that YouTube video about the elephant?
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Says the former future president, Kamala Harris, who has not improved one iota since she left office.
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She is trying to position herself as either the next president after Trump,
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or at least as governor of California or something.
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She might have peaked in her rhetorical skills.
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Turning now to slightly more coherent women is a woman who has gone viral
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She doesn't like how America is racist and sexist and bigoted and terrible and awful.
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So she made good on the threat that so many leftists make that she's going to leave.
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She didn't grow up in Africa, but she's an African-American.
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But, y'all, I'd rather go back to America and deal with the racism in America
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before I sit here in Africa and deal with the bullshit robbery,
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the bullshit fraud, the bullshit scams, the bullshit too expensive,
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the bullshit not having no snacks, the bullshit not having no food,
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the bullshit electricity, the bullshit hot water, the bullshit,
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The bullshit animals and scorpions outside the house.
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People all in the fucking room with you, sleeping with you,
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all the bullshit people trying to scam you when you go outside,
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thinking you rich, so they trying to get more money off of you.
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I'm really trying to wrap my head around this shit.
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I'm really trying to wrap my head around how are Americans coming to Africa
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Please comment down below because for me, I'm ready to go.
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And I always used to say, if it's up to me, it will be,
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and I'm going to go out to Africa and make shit happen.
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open up my dentist office and all the stuff that I was going to do out here in America.
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And the only time our electricity get hurt off is when we don't pay the bill.
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She goes on and on with a litany of problems in Africa.
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America, the spiders, the lack of snacks, the lack of food generally, just everything.
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That's kind of funny, totally predictable, of course, but it's funny.
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One hopes for her sake she can make it back to America and have a good life.
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I remember when I was a teenager, on my father's side,
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we descend from the Mayflower, which is a great cigar company,
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and from Ireland, and on my mother's side, Sicily and Calabria.
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I was raised in a very Italian-American culture.
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Did grocery shopping as a boy in the Little Italy part of the Bronx.
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So the first time I was 15 years old, I'm going to Italy with my grandmother.
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I am going to feel like I walked back into the comfy home of my ancestors.
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I'm going to recognize myself here in this country.
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There were certain little things I recognized, but I'm not really Italian, you understand.
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I feel actually a little bit more at home than I do in Italy when I go to England.
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A little bit more, because America comes from England.
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Even there, though, it's a little bit different.
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And these days, if I'm not wearing a keffiyeh and saying enchilada to everyone, then I really
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And we have this highly ideological version of our identity today.
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If you're a black person, you have more in common with a black African than with a white
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American, if you're an LGBT person, you have more in common with an LGBT Tibetan, if there
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are any, than you do with a Republican, conservative, traditionalist American or whatever.
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And, you know, it's not that you're static, that you can't change, but you're an American.
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People who do not have a liberal view of politics understand this.
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This is the classical view of politics, that your identity is inseparable from your community.
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This is the classical view of politics that says that the fundamental unit is not the individual,
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That's the core community that you're born into.
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From the moment of your conception, you are part of that community.
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The liberal view of politics is that we're individuals.
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They have no geographical grounding or traditional or cultural grounding.
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You can be black as night, truly ethnically Congolese, as if you walked out of the heart
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But if you're raised in America and then you show up in Congo, you are going to feel like
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Identity is about more than the abstractions in your head.
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And identity is about more even than the color of your skin.
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And ironically, this is a lesson that Americans have forgotten.
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America, which talks about identity ad nauseum, doesn't seem to know the first thing about
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Speaking of people complaining, another clip has gone viral of Starbucks employees reacting
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Starbucks announced a dress code policy a couple of weeks ago.
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Employees will now be required to wear a solid black shirt and khaki black or blue jean bottoms.
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So you can wear basically any trousers you want, but you got to wear a black shirt.
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And it can be almost any kind of black shirt you want.
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Don't forget, when you're working at Starbucks, you wear a green apron.
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All they're really saying is you have to wear some kind of pants and the shirt that's already
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mostly concealed by your apron needs to be black.
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And in part, they say that they're updating the dress code so that they can deliver a
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more consistent coffee house experience, bring simpler guidance to partners, and allow those
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That was too much for a handful of frivolous and decadent Starbucks employees.
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One thing that Starbucks loves to do is allow partners to be themselves or whatever that PR
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I don't understand how that's in good faith of letting us express ourselves.
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It's not legal for a coffee house to have a uniform.
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I don't know if this guy graduated from Harvard Law.
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First of all, one of my most contrarian right-wing opinions, I think Starbucks is one of the
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Starbucks, as my friend Alan Estrin pointed out, Starbucks created public bathrooms in
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Before Starbucks existed and you wanted to use a bathroom in a city, you'd have to pretend
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I am one of the few very pro-Starbucks conservatives.
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These malcontent employees are proving the point for the policy because I don't want
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to look at a bunch of weird stuff when I go into Starbucks.
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The purpose of the business, the purpose of business is to serve the customer.
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The audacity of these people to say, we Starbucks partners.
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And you should be grateful to your employers for giving you a relatively great job.
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As far as working retail and fast food, it's actually apparently a really nice job.
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The business is not about making the employee feel really nice.
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And so basic stuff, dress kind of normally, that seems totally reasonable to me.
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But there's a deeper point, actually, which the libs don't understand.
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What they're complaining about here is that they say, my individuality will not shine through
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if I'm not allowed to wear bizarre, distracting clothing and, you know, I don't know, stripped
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down naked in the store or whatever they want to do.
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Having to wear a black t-shirt and pants, that's too much.
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Au contraire, mon frere, or my sister, or my, I don't actually, I can't, it's hard to tell
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Just as limitations on a poem, rhyme and meter, for instance, allow the poet to better express
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Just as limits give form, shape to things, so too.
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A uniform paradoxically allows you to become more fully yourself.
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Because the t-shirt you wear is pretty superficial.
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The pants or shorts you wear or don't wear, it's kind of superficial.
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If you want to express your individuality fully, that's going to come from your rational
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It's not going to come from your stupid t-shirt.
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This is why people are returning to the high liturgies, I think.
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Because the high liturgies on the one hand seem like smells and bells and distractions.
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What it does is by removing the personality of the preacher or the music director or whoever,
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it allows the real star of the liturgy, God, Christ, the gospel, the holy sacrifice of the
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Okay, so I don't go to church to hear some guy give his personality.
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I don't go to church so that I can have some choir director or some really miserable and
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longing, aching musician express her individuality.
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The star of the show can come out with some uniformity.
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And for these Starbucks employees, the way that they can star in their show is serve the
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customers well and with their personality in the confines of a uniform, in the confines
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of the business, in the confines of serving the customer.
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The irony is, the people who just dress normally and behave normally are much more interesting
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people, 100 out of 100 times, than the people who insist on making a big show of their clothing
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The people who, in an effort to be non-conformist, are the most bland and tediously conformist of
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And if a handful of malcontent Starbucks employees want to quit, that's fine.
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I'll enjoy all the other great Starbucks employees that I see.
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Now, speaking of people of dubious gender, Robert De Niro's son has just come out as
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My favorite comment yesterday comes from Leif Erikson, a man who claims to have discovered
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the Americas before Christopher Columbus, but, and I like Iceland, but we'll get into the
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The commenter, Leif, says, I am not sure if Michelle Obama is a man or a woman, but I would
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say that it's fair to assume that she was referring to the interviewee when she said as a black man.
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She says, it makes me feel so good as a black man.
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It warms my heart as a black man that you're raising your kid trans.
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I don't think she was confessing to gulions in that expression, but what she was, what is
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really clear from that interview is that Michelle Obama, a graduate of Princeton, does not know
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Now, on that very point, Robert De Niro's son has just come out as trans.
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He posted a pic of himself with long hair that he's dyed pink, wearing a dress, still looking
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like a fella, but doing his best to make himself look like a lady.
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People Magazine asked him, and he sent a statement.
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The statement said, I've loved and supported Aaron as my son, and now I love and support Aaron
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spelled differently, not A-A-R-O-N, but A-I-R-Y-N, as my daughter.
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You can certainly say I love my kids, and you can even pretend maybe he is pro-trans.
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You don't know what the big deal is, that your son, who's gone from baby to adult as
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your son, as a dude, is now pretending to be a woman, and going into women's bathrooms,
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presumably, and putting on dresses, and pretending that a man can become a boy.
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He sort of famously furrows his eyebrows, De Niro.
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But come on, no one believes that, and it's part of an epidemic.
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I looked up, just quickly, I googled, what Hollywood celebs, how many Hollywood celebs
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I'm only, I'm going by mostly one article, and only the names that I recognize, and I
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barely pay attention to Hollywood, so I might have left most of the names off the list.
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Annette Bening, Warren Beatty, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Jamie Lee Curtis, Cynthia Nixon,
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Jennifer Lopez, Tori Spelling, Marlon Waynes, Naomi Watts, Leib Schreiber, Rosie O'Donnell,
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Sigourney Weaver, Sting, Shearer, Charlize Theron, Charlize Theron, whose kid apparently got
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All of them have trans, or pans, or non-binary, or, they have trans kids.
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Is that worth, we were talking at the top of the show about how to conduct scientific studies,
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you know, you have a question, maybe a hypothesis, you explore that.
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Is there, is there some, is it because they're on a fault line or something?
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Is, they really, if trans is a, a, a real aspect of biology, or of human nature, we got to
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evacuate Hollywood, because it seems like this extremely dangerous condition, where 41% of
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people who have the condition kill themselves, it seems to be concentrated in Hollywood, specifically
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in the Hollywood Hills, and Beverly Hills, and among the really rich and famous people.
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Or, maybe more likely, it's obviously a social contagion that's not grounded in anything
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And it, it amounts to child abuse when you encourage this.
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I know he's super annoying in his politics and his public statements, but I feel for the
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guy, because even if his political views and his behaviors have led up to and encouraged
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That's a bad thing to happen to your kid, and you don't want that to happen.
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But when he says, I love my son, I support my son, who's now my daughter, and I love and
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support my son, you got to ask yourself, is this the best way to support your son?
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If I told you, Mr. De Niro, let's hope that Robert De Niro is listening to this show, if
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I told you that all of the medical literature, the really reliable studies with the big data
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sets that look at this, show that transing your kid actually does not improve anxiety
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That actually, it makes at least one of those things worse, anxiety.
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That actually, post-transition, suicide rates aren't any better than they were before.
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Then, are you really supporting your kid by lying to him?
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Are you really supporting your kid by indulging your kid's increasingly destructive behavior?
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If your kid said, hey, dad, I identify as a fentanyl addict, and, you know, I was just
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born this way, or even I wasn't born this way, but I've come to develop and understand
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that my true self is a fentanyl addict, and if you tell me I can't do fentanyl, it's going
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Would you say, okay, well, here's some fentanyl.
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So, I don't, I really don't even mean to dunk on De Niro.
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I feel horrible for all of these parents, and I really feel horrible for the kids who
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they are wittingly or unwittingly abusing, and whose lives they are wittingly or unwittingly
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If you have good intentions, then they're in the wrong place, and the road to hell is
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And if you're just trying to get clout and fit in with social trends and recognize that,
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you know, a trans kid is the new Gucci handbag, it's just de rigueur, you know.
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Now, speaking of support for things, we talked yesterday on the show about how Trump has a
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Scott Besant, Treasury Secretary, just announced this, that there's a new deal.
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Russia and Ukraine didn't want to play ball, and Russia actually started sending missiles
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into Kiev, really accelerating as Trump was trying to bring peace, so much so that Trump
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So, okay, Trump just struck a mineral deal in Ukraine.
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Medvedev, who is a top Russian official, was nominally the president for a while.
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But Putin's always been the power for the past 20 years.
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Putin's furious about this, according to reporting from Reuters.
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He says this deal, it's actually really bad for Ukraine, too, because he's forcing Trump,
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And Trump has broken the Kiev regime to the point where they'll have to pay for USAID with
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Now they'll have to pay for military supplies for the national wealth of their disappearing
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And as much as Ukraine has not accepted Trump's brokered peace deal, the Ukraine might be a
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little upset, too, because they do need to pay up a little bit.
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We're not just going to cut them a blank check and allow them to drag us into a regional and
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But Putin, I think, is a real loser here, because this is ensuring continued, advantageous,
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And this is what Putin gets for jerking Trump around.
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Had Putin said, I'll take the peace deal, Trump, I'll do what you want to do, I'll take
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some concessions, and then we can drag Zelensky along and we'll have a peace deal, then Trump
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But Putin thought he was going to push Trump around and there weren't going to be consequences.
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And more to it, I think Putin made the mistake of thinking that Trump is ideologically motivated,
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or at least is susceptible to the ideological motivations of his base.
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The Trump base, and I'm a member of the Trump base, is a little bit split on Ukraine.
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Some hate Ukraine or don't care about Ukraine at all.
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Some are even sympathetic to the Russian claims.
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And I think Putin thought by pushing on the more pro-Russian or at least anti-Ukraine part
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of Trump's base, they could get Trump to go along.
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And Trump pushes people around when people try to push Trump around.
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And Putin, he thought he was being real slick and real cool.
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And he thought that he could get away with sending those missiles into Kiev and blowing
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Trump's going to get a nice mineral deal out of Ukraine.
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He's going to get some nice money for the United States.
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If Russia doesn't want to play ball, if Russia believes, as Tolstoy wrote in War and Peace,
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that Europe will never be a sincere ally of Russia, that you really can't have a getting
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Well, now we got an incentive to continue to defend Ukraine.
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And Putin just wasted a couple missiles shooting them at Kiev because now no more Mr. Nice
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There are partisans on both sides of this war making ideological claims for Ukraine.
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We have to stand with the great democracy of corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs.
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And there are some people saying, well, actually, you know, Russia really has a point because
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Ukraine is sometimes part of its historic land.
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And actually, Putin is kind of based and right wing.
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And if you're going to play ball with Trump, great.
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But if you're not going to play ball, all right, keep getting your young men slaughtered,
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This is a very different ballgame than we saw in the previous administrations, Democrat
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Now, on national security, one story I really do have to get to, Trump has just ousted his
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Sometimes Trump gets attacked for being mean, firing people by tweet, that sort of thing.
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In this way, he was very delicate with Mike Waltz.
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Mike Waltz, according to reports, was the one responsible for adding Jeffrey Goldberg,
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the editor of The Atlantic, to a group chat with Pete Hegseth and with J.D. Vance talking
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The strikes went off just fine, but not a good look.
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And the media tried to get Hegseth because all they want to do is get rid of Hegseth.
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But Hegseth really had very little to do with it.
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So at the time, we said, OK, we'll see if anyone's going to get fired.
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If anyone was going to be fired, it was going to be Mike Waltz.
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He didn't give the frothing dogs of the media and the left what they wanted.
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Reportedly, Waltz lost the confidence of top administration officials.
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And Trump is going to put him up for UN ambassador.
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Because he pulled at least Stefanik out from the UN ambassador nomination.
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Because he needs at least Stefanik in Congress.
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What does this mean for U.S. policy, grand strategy, geopolitics?
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Waltz was considered to be on the more hawkish,
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even some would call him a neocon side of foreign policy.
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This would be a win for the dovish side of the administration.
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I was looking for your insight in a recent family situation.
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My dad likes to collect things which takes up space in his and my mom's house.
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Over a year ago, my mother asked my older brother to sell some of my dad's collections behind his back.
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And she would split the money with him and told him not to tell my dad.
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A couple months later, my older brother told me and my younger brother about this arrangement.
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He pushed back saying mom told him not to tell but eventually agreed to come clean.
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About a year later, the collection came up when I was with my mom and dad and I realized my brother never told him.
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This has caused somewhat of a divide in our family over who was right and who was in the wrong.
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Is what I did by bringing the situation to light the right thing to do?
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Or should I have listened to my mom and not told my dad and avoided the whole conflict?
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You should not have listened to your mother in this case.
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You might have acted a little differently, but your heart was in the right place.
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You should not have a parent saying to the kids, hey, don't tell your mother or don't tell your father about this.
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I'm going to, hey, I'm going to bring you, kid, into a little secret pact with me to encourage you to disrespect your other parent.
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In this case, the father is supposed to be the head of the household.
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And what I'm going to do is I'm going to sell a possession that your father loves against his will without his knowledge.
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Really, really disgusting behavior that legitimately can threaten a marriage.
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Sorry, not to talk smack about your mom, but you brought it up.
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What I would have done, though, because you have to honor your mother and your father, is I probably would have gone to your mother first.
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I would have gone to your mother and said, hey, I heard you're doing this.
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And I don't want to have to go rat and tell dad, but I have to honor him, too.
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And if he keeps selling his stuff that he loves behind his back, I got to do it.
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Do the right thing, mom, and honor your husband and respect your husband and don't behave this way respectfully.
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Because this stuff, I mean, I'm not exaggerating.
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Who cares what the little trinket is or whatever that she's selling?
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It's the principle that she's forming an alliance with her kids against the father, the head of the household, totally inverting and perverting the family structure.
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That's what I would talk to the mother about this.
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Dear Michael, I'm a stay-at-home mom of three kids, four, two, and six months, up in America's evil top hat.
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A few weeks ago, my four-year-old pulled a book off the shelf at the local library and was looking at the pictures.
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I didn't see the title and was looking for books to take home and did a double take when I saw her looking at a drag queen and took the book away.
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Turns out the book is called The Bare Naked Book by Kathy Stinson.
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I flipped a few pages and there was a page on breasts with images of various women, including some with mastectomy scars, and another page on male genitals.
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By God's providence, my child was not exposed to nudity.
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I was so angry and shocked, we immediately left.
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I'd like to write something but don't know what to say.
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While I think this book shouldn't be anywhere near kids at all, should I suggest it goes to a different section?
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My child should be able to look at any book in the kids section without supervision.
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What I would first be tempted to do and might do if I were not, if my will got away from my reason for a second, is I would destroy it or throw it in the garbage because that has no business.
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I might burn it in front of everyone in the town square.
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But so what I would probably do, being of Italian distraction, always trying to find a little workaround here, I would probably just hide the book in the library underneath a shelf or something or, you know, underneath a desk.
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And so no one should be exposed to that obscenity and that degeneracy.
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That would be my little Sicilian via media, okay?
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Now, what you might do if you want to make it, if you want to write a letter, for instance, I would make it a public thing.
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So that's where I might turn to TikTok and say, you know, look, this is the library, the public library is a public institution.
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Citizens have a right to set some boundaries around it.
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And if you're putting weird porn in the kids' section, you shouldn't have porn in the adult section in a library.
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But certainly in the kids' section, you got to get that out of there.
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And so I would make a stink and I would get people fired and I would get state senators involved.
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And I would make it political because it's the public library.
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Now, my guest who's coming on right now knows a little bit about books.
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I think he remembers the construction of the library at Alexandria.
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That would, of course, be Daily Wire's millennial correspondent, Andrew Klavan.
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You know, I have cigars piling up in my humidor because ever since you stopped your weekly
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sojourns to Nashville, I have very few people to steal cigars from me.
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I'm also really grateful that you wrote this book because this is the first time receiving
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The Kingdom of Cain, Finding God in the Literature of Darkness.
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For those who don't know, Drew managed to turn a book about John Keats and Christ into
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I didn't, I didn't know any, most people today don't even know who John Keats is.
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But this is, this is in the same vein, is it not?
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Yeah, but this is dealing with more popular entertainment.
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This has things about, it's really about murders.
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It's about famous murders in history that a lot of people have forgotten about.
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So that they might learn something there, but they inspired movie after movie, after
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So, you know, Ed Gein, who inspired Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
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which in turn inspired the entire slasher genre.
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I can't believe, this is 1920s, Leopold and Loeb.
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So I was at the trial and this is, these are two guys who decided, had read Nietzsche and
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So they were going to commit the perfect murder and essentially reenacted crime and punishment
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by Fyodor Dostoevsky and actually went and killed some little kid.
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And like the supermen they were, they were picked up by the Chicago cops in about a week
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And this is inspired movie after movie after movie.
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You can probably see, if you go through the course of maybe three years of movies and crime
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TV shows, you will see a story about two people who come together and decide to commit the
00:42:19.280
perfect crime, either for the thrill of it or because they think that they're better than
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And basically what I'm showing people, I don't know about you, but I can't watch modern Christian
00:42:35.720
How just absolutely insufferable and sappy and yeah.
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This is the religion that inspired the greatest art literally ever, right?
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So you've got Bach, you've got Michelangelo, you've got Shakespeare.
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I believe Shakespeare was a Catholic myself and I think it's just imbued in his work.
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And now, you know, you get, you know, God is not dead, number five.
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This time he's really not dead and all this stuff.
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So I just would like to show people that even the darkest literature, the darkest stories
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that is not suitable for family entertainment can lead the way to actually understanding
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how God may be able to make something beautiful out of the evil of the world, that artists
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are sort of imitators of God, they're creators, they want to continue the creation.
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And so I just wanted to show you how these things fit into the imagination and how artists
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then took these horrible murders and turned them into these illuminating, absolutely Christ-led
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You know, even the guy, even the artists who didn't want them to be Christ-led, they were
00:43:42.180
so honest in what they were depicting that it actually shows you something about where
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our conscience as a collective, where our collective conscience was in relation to God.
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So, you know, I mean, you know that one of the first things that turned me in the direction
00:43:54.440
of faith was reading Crime and Punishment when I was 19.
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So this is a story about an axe murderer, and it convinced me that there was no such thing
00:44:02.300
as relative morality, that morality was an absolutely objective thing.
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And I thought, like, if I went into a Christian bookstore and said, could you have that book
00:44:10.460
about the axe murderer who's, like, redeemed by a prostitute?
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You know, they're like, I'm sorry, sir, would you leave the room?
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And so I just wanted to study the way that art transforms the darkness of life into something
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illuminating and even uplifting when it's done by great artists.
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Do you think that that book, were you listening to the mailbag that I had just now?
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Do you think that the book in the library with all the genitals and the kids section, do
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you think that that rises to the level of great art?
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Well, I actually found a similar book in the Library of Alexandria, which solves the problem
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Were they able to be quite so graphic on the vellum and the stone tablets?
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That's how they knew exactly what they were doing.
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I actually, I hate to say it, but I actually agreed with you that you should make a serious
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I mean, the idea that, you know, it's so interesting that they keep doing this to kids.
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And then when you come out and read what they're putting in schools out loud, they tell you
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to stop reading it out loud because it's just too filthy, you know?
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I love they always say, you know, well, you're just trying to ban books and you're a Philistine.
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In practice, there are even good, normal people who say, yeah, we shouldn't ban books, whatever.
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But then you have to tell them like, hey, sure, right, whatever.
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Take a look at the photographic, obscene porn in the four-year-old section of the library
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or in the kindergarten part of the school library.
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Because now you're not a defender of free speech.
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I think I would shut down every porn site on the internet, except I don't know what they
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They have only fans now where you, I don't know.
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That seems like they're really the biggest scam of all.
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If there's one thing that the internet provides, it's pictures of naked ladies, and now people
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It's interesting to me that the same people who wanted to investigate Catholics who went
00:46:27.880
to Latin mass don't think that banning porn is violating the First Amendment.
00:46:35.000
Drew, I have more mailbag that I want you to weigh in on.
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There was a question at the top of the voicemail bag about this mother who made a deal with her
00:46:44.500
kids to undermine her father's, the father's authority.
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I want to get your thoughts on that because you all, not only do you predate libraries,
00:47:00.140
And we're going to get to Fake Headline Friday that Drew's going to help me out on.
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