The Michael Knowles Show - June 04, 2025


Ep. 1747 - One Of History's Most Evil Men Dead At 98


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Elon Musk just called President Trump s signature legislative achievement, a disgusting abomination. Is he right? Is the billionaire bromance over? Today s episode is brought to you by Daily Wire and the Daily Wire Plus gift membership program.

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00:00:39.820 Elon Musk just called President Trump's signature legislative achievement, quote,
00:00:44.920 a disgusting abomination.
00:00:47.520 Is he right?
00:00:48.720 Is Trump right?
00:00:50.460 Is the billionaire bromance over?
00:00:52.860 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:00:53.960 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:02:49.980 Elon is turning on the spending bill.
00:02:52.540 This is what Trump is calling the big, beautiful bill.
00:02:55.720 This is the legislative achievement that he can get through in this first year.
00:03:02.060 And Elon says, I'm sorry, I can't stand it anymore.
00:03:04.560 This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.
00:03:11.460 Shame on those of you who voted for it.
00:03:13.500 You know you did wrong.
00:03:14.960 You know it.
00:03:16.920 Whoa! 0.71
00:03:17.920 Those are tough words.
00:03:19.580 Elon Musk was the buddy-in-chief.
00:03:22.620 He was one of the most prominent figures at the White House.
00:03:24.720 He's recently left the White House after his 130-day period when he could be a temporary government employee
00:03:29.920 while still owning his companies.
00:03:31.080 And then he comes out.
00:03:33.880 He's out of the White House for a few days and he says, 0.60
00:03:35.860 the chief legislative achievement of the White House is a disgusting abomination.
00:03:39.960 What is in the bill?
00:03:40.940 Is Elon right?
00:03:42.220 Well, first thing in the bill, largest tax cut in U.S. history.
00:03:47.680 Because what the bill primarily does is extend the 2017 tax cuts that Trump had during the first term.
00:03:55.280 This is why when I sat down with Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, I said,
00:04:00.260 what's your thought on the big, beautiful bill?
00:04:01.580 He said, well, it's pass or fail for us.
00:04:04.160 It's not, we're going to get some of it through, or maybe we'll try to get this part through.
00:04:08.220 Or, you know, he said, look, it's all there.
00:04:10.340 This is the bill that we can get through, and it's either pass or fail.
00:04:12.700 If we pass, then we get to keep the tax cuts.
00:04:15.440 We get to fund our government.
00:04:16.840 If we fail, we're going to be responsible for the biggest tax hike ever.
00:04:20.080 So we have to get the bill through, and that's what they were after.
00:04:24.560 The libs are going to call this a tax cut for the rich or something. 1.00
00:04:27.940 That's not what it is.
00:04:30.380 Americans earning between $30,000 and $80,000 a year.
00:04:35.860 So $80,000, I think, is the median household income in the United States.
00:04:38.980 People earning from $30,000 up to the median household income will pay 15% less in taxes.
00:04:46.720 That is a massive tax cut.
00:04:50.080 Thanks to Trump, thanks to the big, beautiful bill.
00:04:51.960 But it obviously will exacerbate deficits if all you got was the tax cut.
00:04:55.740 So there is also deficit reduction.
00:04:58.160 And to the White House's credit, it's the largest deficit reduction in about 30 years.
00:05:04.140 There's all sorts of savings, and you know, the devil's in the details on this accounting.
00:05:07.460 But $1.6 trillion in mandatory savings, that's pretty good.
00:05:13.460 Because there's a lot of extra spending in there that the White House had to put in there
00:05:17.700 because it's what President Trump ran on.
00:05:20.000 It's what the people voted for.
00:05:21.100 That's funding for the border wall.
00:05:22.880 That's funding for ICE agents.
00:05:24.860 That's funding for the military.
00:05:26.620 That's funding for child tax credit, a kind of early version of a White House family policy.
00:05:32.940 So it's all pretty good.
00:05:34.860 Where do the cuts come from?
00:05:36.840 The cuts come largely from waste and fraud.
00:05:39.900 So the other thing you're going to hear about this bill from the libs is that it takes away
00:05:43.260 health care from Americans and from children and all the rest.
00:05:47.760 Not so.
00:05:48.880 It is taking some money out of Medicaid.
00:05:52.720 Medicaid, which is a government health care program that is designed for lower income American citizens.
00:06:00.240 But it's not taking health care funding away from the people who deserve it and who are entitled to it
00:06:07.100 under the Medicaid plan.
00:06:07.880 It's taking Medicaid funding away from the 1.4 million illegals who are on Medicaid, to use just one example.
00:06:16.860 It's taking Medicaid funding away from people who are abusing the system, who are not legally entitled to it.
00:06:21.200 People who refuse to work.
00:06:22.580 People who don't meet even basic requirements to avail themselves of health care and welfare.
00:06:28.700 So it cuts waste and fraud in Medicaid.
00:06:30.900 It cuts some ridiculous fraudulent money that was going to environmentalism and all sorts of other liberal pet projects.
00:06:37.080 But all in all, as someone who has paid attention to politics closely for a long time, I think the big, beautiful bill is pretty good.
00:06:46.300 I think it's totally necessary for the White House to get this through, given the razor-thin majority in the House and a better but still not massive majority in the U.S. Senate.
00:06:58.360 I think it's totally necessary.
00:07:00.080 I agree with the Treasury Secretary.
00:07:01.240 It is pass-fail.
00:07:01.980 But also, I think it's a pretty good bill.
00:07:07.220 All in all, it doesn't spend nearly as much as we might fear that it would spend.
00:07:11.340 But it's not the kind of bill that a libertarian is going to love.
00:07:15.240 It's not the kind of bill that someone who had the expectation that this government was going to get rid of the budget deficit,
00:07:22.320 that this administration was going to start paying down the national debt.
00:07:25.360 That's going to be disappointing for that kind of person.
00:07:28.100 I'm just a little bit surprised that Elon is surprised.
00:07:34.120 Elon is very intelligent.
00:07:36.980 Did Elon really think they were going to get a better bill?
00:07:40.780 I don't know why anyone would have that expectation.
00:07:43.980 Not because Trump isn't good on his word.
00:07:48.260 Not because Trump isn't serious about cutting his pay.
00:07:50.780 It's just, this is how our political order operates.
00:07:56.460 We have been running massive annual budget deficits for 25 years.
00:08:05.400 Republican, Democrat, she might say, well, that's the problem.
00:08:09.240 We need to turn that around.
00:08:10.140 I know.
00:08:11.240 I get it.
00:08:11.700 I know.
00:08:12.880 But we need to get a little deeper, okay? 1.00
00:08:16.900 Rather than just pointing fingers and saying, you stupid members of Congress. 1.00
00:08:20.420 It's easy to say that. 1.00
00:08:21.100 I've said it many times.
00:08:22.840 We need to ask ourselves, what is wrong with our political order that we keep running these massive deficits?
00:08:30.380 The politicians don't just do it to play a trick on us.
00:08:32.780 They do it because they believe that that's what they have to do to get elected.
00:08:36.040 Because as H.L. Mencken says, democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard.
00:08:41.940 I think there is a deeper issue, deeper than Democrat, deeper than Republican, that explains why we run consistently massive budget deficits.
00:08:52.900 All in all, I think the bill's pretty good.
00:08:54.980 Now, the one little political operative thing that might be going on here with the Elon tweet that I haven't seen anyone else point out, Elon might be tweeting this now as the kind of bad cop to Trump's good cop.
00:09:07.760 And so it gets through the House.
00:09:08.840 Notice, Elon didn't tweet this before the bill got through the House because the Republicans had like one vote they could play with in the House.
00:09:16.440 Okay, it was so tight.
00:09:17.800 It was unclear if it was going to get through.
00:09:19.480 Now that we're in the Senate, it's a little more wiggle room.
00:09:22.820 And because the bill is being passed through reconciliation, the Senate now can maybe make this bill a little better.
00:09:29.280 Mike Lee, one of the great U.S. senators, in response to Elon's tweet, said, we got to make this bill better.
00:09:33.720 So the other thing that might be going on here, it might not be just that Elon's having a temper tantrum and the bromance is over.
00:09:39.320 What might be going on is that Elon's new job for the White House is to play the bad cop.
00:09:44.880 So you got the good cop coming out of the actual White House and out of the Republicans in the House.
00:09:50.420 And then you've got Elon playing the bad cop.
00:09:54.040 I have to believe there's a little bit of that going on because of the timing, because it's after the House passed the bill, but also because Elon's a smart guy.
00:10:00.040 And anybody who is surprised by this bill, who thought that this big, beautiful bill could possibly be any better on spending, given our present political circumstances, just is not paying attention to the political circumstances.
00:10:17.060 But now those senators who are afraid of the Elon bucks in their primaries, maybe they'll try to tweak the bill, make it marginally better.
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00:11:54.440 One of the criticisms of the Trump administration thus far is that they haven't deported enough people.
00:12:00.800 And I think it's fair.
00:12:02.380 My view on it is kind of let him cook a little bit.
00:12:05.360 Because, again, you have to ask yourself, rather than just saying Democrats bad or Republicans lazy or whatever, you have to ask yourself, why is it that we have gotten to a point in America where we just welcome millions and millions of illegal aliens into the country every year?
00:12:22.000 How is it that we got to the place where, by conservative estimates, we have 11 to 16 million illegals living in the country?
00:12:28.160 That doesn't count the anchor babies who are technically American citizens.
00:12:30.940 How is it that we've gotten to this place?
00:12:35.100 Yeah, Democrats are nefarious and opportunistic. 0.99
00:12:39.440 Yeah, Republicans are lazy. 0.98
00:12:41.320 Also, maybe it's because we haven't had an above replacement birth rate since 1971, and we need mass migration to prop our economy up.
00:12:49.620 Maybe that's a deeper reason why we have this mass migration.
00:12:53.260 Maybe it's because we no longer have a sense of national identity, because the globalists have turned us into a kind of incoherent empire, and the American right has been afraid of the N-word.
00:13:05.120 Not that one.
00:13:06.100 Not nuclear.
00:13:07.220 Nation.
00:13:08.640 Maybe there are deeper reasons.
00:13:10.740 Economic, social, cultural, and political.
00:13:14.020 Regardless, if Trump wants to make good on deportations, they've got to seriously ramp it up.
00:13:23.820 We are currently on pace to deport 200,000 to 400,000 illegal aliens per year, and those are actually pretty rosy numbers. 1.00
00:13:32.700 So you do the math, four years, that's between, what, 800,000 and 1.6 million illegals that we deport.
00:13:46.200 As I just said, it's 11 million to 16 million illegal aliens.
00:13:50.020 It's a conservative number.
00:13:51.120 So you talk about, what, almost a tenth of that total number, a ninth, an eighth.
00:13:56.560 That's not great.
00:13:58.040 Or maybe significantly less.
00:13:59.760 Trump has arrested, or ICE, rather, has arrested 1,500 illegals in a single raid in Massachusetts.
00:14:07.880 1,500, that's a big number, because a lot of these raids we're seeing, it's three people, it's 10 people, it's 20 people.
00:14:13.200 So 1,500, that's a big, big number.
00:14:15.740 The question for the White House right now is, is this going to be a signal of a massive ramp up in deportations, or is this kind of a one-off raid?
00:14:23.560 And the political calculation that they're going to have to weigh in is, whether or not the White House believes that mass deportations really are a mainstream majority political issue.
00:14:36.740 That's what we all said after the election.
00:14:39.240 We said Trump ran on mass deportations.
00:14:42.080 And I get why, because there are going to be some people who thought they wanted the mass deportations.
00:15:11.940 And then when they see Abuela getting hauled off by the ICE agents, they're going to change their mind and say it's cruel and turn on Trump.
00:15:18.060 And Trump's going to lose his Hispanic support.
00:15:19.720 There's some sign that Trump has dipped in popularity with Hispanics, so it's unclear exactly why.
00:15:25.000 So it's a live question.
00:15:26.640 I'm not telling you I got all the answers.
00:15:30.260 Look, I don't work at the White House, so I'm not going to be responsible for this.
00:15:34.440 But they do have to make a decision.
00:15:37.720 Are they going to make good on the mass deportations?
00:15:40.580 Okay, if they are, just be aware at the current rate, you're not going to get anywhere close to it.
00:15:46.200 And maybe that's just the calculator.
00:15:47.540 Or, if you do want to make good on the mass deportations, we need these 1,500 illegal raids like every day.
00:15:56.980 We need them constantly.
00:15:59.080 And maybe that's what we'll get.
00:16:00.320 We're at an inflection point.
00:16:02.060 We don't know exactly where we're going from here.
00:16:04.320 Now, related to the, putting aside the deportation issue for a second, which is very, very difficult to do.
00:16:11.840 And again, I think we got to give the Trump administration a lot of grace here because we haven't seen these mass deportations ever.
00:16:17.960 And we've seen mass migration for the past many decades and mass illegal migration for the past at least couple of decades.
00:16:26.940 So there are structural impediments to Trump actually making good on this.
00:16:30.940 But we are seeing some really good stuff in terms of new migrants coming over.
00:16:36.060 That has dropped basically to zero.
00:16:39.300 Under Biden, you had about 3 million illegals coming over per year.
00:16:43.780 And Biden's saying, there's nothing I can do to stop it.
00:16:45.980 We need the Republicans in the House and the Senate.
00:16:48.580 We need Trump to get on the line and pass a bill.
00:16:51.680 If I don't have a new bill, there's no way I can stop the mass migration. 1.00
00:16:54.140 And then what?
00:16:55.000 Trump comes in.
00:16:55.640 He doesn't get a new bill.
00:16:56.520 He just enforces the law.
00:16:58.500 Which is why at the time, I and others said that Biden was totally full of it.
00:17:04.240 There was no reason to pass a new migration law.
00:17:06.040 It was going to make the migration problem worse.
00:17:08.080 And if Biden refused to enforce laws that were already on the books, there's no reason to believe he'd enforce a new law that was put on the books.
00:17:14.060 Well, Trump totally proved that because the illegal crossings have dropped basically to zero.
00:17:20.560 And the Washington Post is scratching its head.
00:17:22.600 Washington Post is asking about, where is it?
00:17:25.220 I have the article right here somewhere.
00:17:27.440 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:28.960 This is great.
00:17:30.800 Washington Post.
00:17:32.920 The mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures on the U.S.-Mexico border.
00:17:39.860 So mysterious.
00:17:40.780 We were seizing a lot of fentanyl that was coming originally from China, making its way through Mexico, and coming into America to murder 75,000 American citizens per year.
00:17:52.160 It was happening.
00:17:53.920 And now that's not really happening as much.
00:17:56.880 What changed?
00:17:59.640 I'll just read you the first paragraph or two.
00:18:02.200 Mexico City, after years of confiscating rising amounts of fentanyl, the opioid that has fueled the most lethal drug epidemic in American history, U.S. officials are confronting a new and puzzling reality at the Mexican border.
00:18:15.420 Fentanyl seizures are plummeting.
00:18:18.180 It's weird.
00:18:18.860 Just about since something changed in Washington.
00:18:22.080 The phenomenon has received little notice in Washington, where the Trump administration has made fentanyl trafficking cartels a national security priority.
00:18:30.000 Narcotics of all kinds are pouring across our border, said a White House statement in March, announcing stiff tariffs on Mexico and Canada.
00:18:36.100 New data suggests a more complex story.
00:18:39.180 The U.S. government's average monthly seizures of fentanyl at the Mexican border have dropped by more than half, from 1,700 pounds in 2024 to 746 pounds this year, according to CBP.
00:18:50.880 So weird.
00:18:53.020 What on earth could have changed?
00:18:54.660 Might it have something to do with Trump stopping the illegal crossings?
00:19:01.440 By the way, even with Trump stopping the illegal crossings, there's still a lot of fentanyl getting through.
00:19:06.060 Because fentanyl is a top priority for the cartels who control the border.
00:19:11.020 So, even with that, you're still getting a lot of fentanyl.
00:19:13.900 But it's a real head-scratcher, isn't it?
00:19:16.140 When you enforce the law and shut down the border, fewer bad things get across the border.
00:19:21.160 This is a version of that story made famous by the journalist Fox Butterworth, I think was his name.
00:19:28.680 Fox Butterfield, something like that.
00:19:31.200 Where he said,
00:19:33.920 Crime keeps dropping despite prisons filling.
00:19:37.240 It's as if those two were contradictory rather than went hand in hand.
00:19:42.020 Yeah.
00:19:42.900 Yeah.
00:19:43.180 Turns out when you elect a guy who runs on stopping illegals from bringing drugs into our country, and then he actually does that, turns out you get fewer drugs in the country.
00:19:54.360 Washington Post, man.
00:19:55.540 What colleges do they graduate from?
00:19:58.820 What does it take to be a writer at the Washington Post?
00:20:02.260 To be obtuse.
00:20:02.740 I think that's why you, on top of the resume, I am extremely obtuse.
00:20:06.240 Oh, you're hired.
00:20:07.380 Here's your desk.
00:20:09.260 Here's your newspaper fedora.
00:20:10.780 Here, let's get on some stories where you express your befuddlement.
00:20:14.420 Speaking of poison, the creator of the abortion pill is dead.
00:20:19.700 He didn't die flipping his Corvette.
00:20:22.100 The guy was 98 years old.
00:20:23.180 His name was Etienne-Emile Beaulieu, and he helped develop the oral drug RU486, which is more commonly known as Mifepristone.
00:20:36.300 And his widow has issued this statement.
00:20:40.640 His research was guided by his commitment to progress through science, his dedication to women's freedom, and his desire to enable everyone to live better and longer lives.
00:20:49.720 I shouldn't laugh.
00:20:51.840 It's so dark, I shouldn't laugh.
00:20:54.780 His research, his creation of the abortion pill, was motivated by his desire to enable everyone to live better and longer lives.
00:21:02.980 This man bears greater responsibility for shortening the average lifespan on Earth than anything since the bubonic plague.
00:21:14.080 The black death, probably including the black death, over enough of a time span. 0.53
00:21:22.900 And his widow says, oh, he just wanted to make people live longer. 0.68
00:21:26.940 Doesn't that just sum it all up?
00:21:29.100 When you cooperate with evil and when you fall into sin, even the very things that you think you're trying to do are totally undermined.
00:21:39.740 You get the opposite.
00:21:41.240 A true Faustian bargain.
00:21:42.780 There's a phrase, de mortuis nil nisi bonum.
00:21:49.000 You know, nothing but good.
00:21:50.180 Say nothing but good of the dead.
00:21:52.640 I generally try to adhere to that.
00:21:55.260 In this case, though, this is such a live political issue.
00:21:59.080 I think we need to be a little more blunt. 0.50
00:22:02.040 This man, Etienne-Emile Beaulieu, is one of the most evil men ever to walk the Earth. 0.86
00:22:08.840 Much more evil than Hitler. 0.95
00:22:12.620 Much more.
00:22:13.220 And not even close.
00:22:14.460 Not even close.
00:22:15.660 Much more evil than Stalin. 0.50
00:22:17.900 There is no comparison. 0.99
00:22:19.200 This man, because of his dogged pursuit of this drug, this drug that is intended to kill babies in the womb.
00:22:28.660 This man is responsible for the murder of an estimated, and we don't have the exact number, but an estimated conservative estimate.
00:22:37.500 Five to seven million babies in the United States alone.
00:22:41.960 When you add in the rest of the world, most conservative estimate possible, this man is responsible for at least tens of millions of deaths, maybe already over 100 million, and they're just getting started.
00:22:57.140 The abortion pill is still rising in the total percentage of abortions that it's responsible for.
00:23:02.720 The official number, I think, is 60 or 63%, but I've spoken to people who are a little more on the ground with how the abortion industry works.
00:23:12.420 I'm told it's north of 70% at this point.
00:23:15.300 Okay.
00:23:16.360 No signs of slowing down.
00:23:17.740 This man, who is going to get eulogies in the New York Times and the Washington Post, I'm sure, one of the most evil men ever to live.
00:23:29.020 To put in perspective the amount of pure, needless human suffering this person has caused, nuclear bombs have killed 214,000 people ever.
00:23:42.380 However, this man has so far killed at least tens of millions, at least.
00:23:50.380 No end in sight.
00:23:51.940 At least with Hitler, you say, Hitler killed however many millions of people, you know, 8 million people total or so. 0.84
00:23:56.600 I don't know.
00:23:56.940 It depends on how much of the war you blame on Hitler, but 10 million people, I don't know, whatever.
00:24:01.020 For Stalin, you say, he killed 20 million people, 40 million people, 50 million people.
00:24:05.200 I don't care, however many millions of people.
00:24:09.140 Now they're dead.
00:24:10.220 Now they're not responsible for more deaths.
00:24:11.740 With this guy, Bo Yu, he's going to be responsible for deaths into the future until the end of time.
00:24:21.000 And not just any kind of death.
00:24:22.700 You think of someone like Oppenheimer, you know, who created the atomic bomb.
00:24:29.120 Say, well, you know, he was just trying to work on science and progress.
00:24:33.640 And yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:34.180 Okay, I get it.
00:24:34.900 But first of all, bombs can be used in a justified way because there is such a thing as just war.
00:24:42.340 There is no such thing as just murdering a baby.
00:24:44.520 It's just murdering a baby, which is always unjust.
00:24:49.620 With Oppenheimer, you could say, well, a nation has a right to defend itself against threats.
00:24:53.960 And the enemies of the United States were working on the bomb.
00:24:56.180 And so it was, yeah, there are all sorts of justifications for creating a nuclear bomb.
00:25:00.320 And even still, people view him with a great deal of moral doubt.
00:25:05.740 He's responsible for a little over 200,000 deaths ever.
00:25:09.820 There is no moral justification for creating this drug and promoting this drug.
00:25:14.140 This is a reminder, we should pray for the guy's soul.
00:25:19.180 Some people don't believe in praying for the dead, but it's a very traditional Christian practice.
00:25:23.480 So we should pray for his soul.
00:25:24.480 We should certainly pray for the souls of his many millions of victims.
00:25:28.240 And we should, as a political matter and a personal matter, remember for ourselves
00:25:31.660 the enormity of the amount of evil that a single person could do.
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00:27:06.440 Folks, three-fingered mummy-looking things.
00:27:11.840 Alleged alien abductions.
00:27:14.240 Giants!
00:27:15.660 In this episode of Michael and the Rogue Archaeologist Part 2, I continue my conversation with explorer
00:27:21.160 and all around Indiana Jones, Timothy Albarino.
00:27:25.120 After our previous episode, it was left on a cliffhanger.
00:27:27.740 We discuss his most recent expedition to Peru, testimonies of supposed alien abductees,
00:27:33.680 and Nephilim-looking-like remains of giants, allegedly.
00:27:37.840 We get into all of it in this episode.
00:27:39.180 Here's a quick teaser.
00:27:43.400 I had this intuition.
00:27:44.880 There's something under that pyramid in Peru.
00:27:48.620 These three-fingered tridactyl beings.
00:27:52.240 The largest, most bizarre elongated skulls.
00:27:55.380 Let me tell you the most compelling thing, though.
00:27:57.680 Two of the mummies are pregnant.
00:27:59.940 Maybe there is a crypto-terrestrial, non-human race, species, inhabiting planet Earth, probably
00:28:07.840 subterranean.
00:28:08.320 It sounds crazy.
00:28:09.460 It sounds absolutely crazy.
00:28:11.280 Even according to the Smithsonian's own records, there were the remains of people of unusually
00:28:17.800 large stature were discovered.
00:28:19.960 What does it mean for us?
00:28:21.540 What does it mean for everything from our human nature to salvation history, if that actually
00:28:25.280 happened?
00:28:25.880 Well, those are the essential questions.
00:28:34.320 Watch the full episode now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel.
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00:28:43.980 Speaking of reprobates, Harvey Milk might have his name wiped off a U.S. Navy ship.
00:28:50.720 Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is reportedly looking to remove Harvey Milk's name from the
00:28:58.020 ship.
00:28:59.000 U.S.N.S.
00:28:59.700 Harvey Milk, which is, what is that?
00:29:01.620 Like an oil ship?
00:29:02.500 Yeah, it's an oiler ship.
00:29:04.100 This, according to military.com, looking at a memo from the Office of the Secretary of the
00:29:08.960 Navy.
00:29:10.080 So, the Office of the Secretary of the Navy has the power to name Navy ships.
00:29:15.460 And I, you know, I come from a Navy family, actually.
00:29:17.760 My grandpa was a Navy captain.
00:29:19.460 A number of members of my family have served in the Navy.
00:29:21.560 So, I've been to plenty of Navy, naval bases over the years.
00:29:26.280 I was at the christening, or some, I forget if it was the christening, or one of the events
00:29:30.480 in the commissioning of the USS Michael Monsoor.
00:29:33.880 Michael Monsoor, a real naval hero.
00:29:37.080 And the ships are named after all these sorts of great naval heroes.
00:29:39.960 And then there's Harvey Milk.
00:29:43.080 Harvey Milk did serve in the Navy.
00:29:45.540 He was discharged without an honorable discharge, because he was a little bit of a derelict, you
00:29:54.320 know, a little bit of a reprobate.
00:29:55.880 And he proved this in his later political career, when he was involved in politics in San Francisco,
00:30:00.720 and was known for preying on young runaway boys, minors.
00:30:05.440 He was a pederast, this guy.
00:30:07.320 This guy, in his 30s at least, was preying on like a 16-year-old boy. 0.93
00:30:12.400 I mean, this is a true degenerate, Harvey Milk.
00:30:16.120 And then he was killed in actually just a matter of workplace violence. 0.84
00:30:20.140 But he's become a martyr for the pseudo-religion of LGBT LMNOP. 0.93
00:30:26.380 In any case, his name should leave the ship.
00:30:30.300 It was a great move from Pete Hegseth, great move from the Pentagon.
00:30:33.780 I think as a matter of morality and justice, Harvey Milk should not have his name on the ship.
00:30:42.180 But also, just as a practical matter for the U.S. Navy, having a ship named the USNS Harvey Milk
00:30:49.120 was not helping the Navy beat the allegations, okay?
00:30:52.040 You know, people always, there are rumors about the Navy.
00:30:55.560 As I told you, I come from a Navy family.
00:30:58.140 I, you know, there are all the jokes that people make about the Navy.
00:31:01.680 Well, having a ship named after Harvey Milk does not allow the good men and women of the United States Navy
00:31:07.800 to beat the allegations.
00:31:10.060 So anyway, this is a really good, good thing.
00:31:12.380 Some people are going to say, who cares?
00:31:13.880 Who cares what the name of a ship is?
00:31:17.760 The libs care, don't they? 1.00
00:31:20.740 It's the same people who say, who cares what words we use?
00:31:23.780 Who cares what language is enforced by the cultural and political institute?
00:31:27.340 Who cares?
00:31:27.980 Oh, it's just words, just trivial.
00:31:29.020 Well, the libs seem to care a lot.
00:31:31.860 They spend a lot of money and a lot of time and a lot of effort trying to change words,
00:31:36.660 trying to change the names of ships.
00:31:38.500 Why?
00:31:38.740 Because they know that words have a lot of power, and they color the way we view the world.
00:31:42.440 And they, in this case, they create a quasi-pantheon of people to venerate, secular saints.
00:31:52.020 And so, you know, there are a lot of great people in American history that we can honor.
00:31:59.440 A lot of great people the U.S. Navy has to pick from.
00:32:01.600 A lot of Michael Monsoors out there.
00:32:03.180 Not all exactly, obviously, these are individuals who have committed individual acts of heroism.
00:32:09.100 But all in all, there are a lot of people of great virtue and heroism that we could pick from.
00:32:14.000 We don't need to pick people who are known strictly for vice. 0.84
00:32:19.220 Because to do that is to exalt vice.
00:32:22.360 To do that is to change the public morality.
00:32:24.760 To do that is to change the public religion. 0.81
00:32:27.320 And we don't want to do it. 0.92
00:32:28.380 Now, speaking of homosexuals, this is a weird study out from Pew Research.
00:32:34.920 It's actually not, it's not that weird, but it has thus far left some people scratching their heads.
00:32:40.540 This is on how many Americans consult astrology and tarot cards and fortune tellers and all that kind of stuff.
00:32:49.760 The headline is 30% of Americans consult all of those things.
00:32:56.580 Younger adults, especially younger women, are more likely to believe in astrology and to consult astrology and horoscopes.
00:33:03.400 No surprises there.
00:33:07.060 And I'm quoting directly from the article.
00:33:09.120 Americans who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender are especially likely to consult astrology or a horoscope and tarot cards.
00:33:17.880 About half of LGBT Americans, 54%, consult astrology or a horoscope at least yearly.
00:33:25.260 That's roughly twice the share among U.S. adults overall, which is 28%.
00:33:28.460 And LGBT women are more likely than LGBT men to consult astrology at least yearly, 63%.
00:33:36.860 63% of lesbians consult astrology versus 40% of gay men.
00:33:44.000 40%, that's a high number.
00:33:45.640 It's still much higher than the national average.
00:33:48.900 And certainly than the national average of men.
00:33:50.780 33% of LGBT adults say they consult tarot cards, making them three times as likely as U.S. adults overall to say this.
00:33:59.240 21% of LGBT Americans say that when they make a major life decision, they rely at least a little on what they've learned from astrology or a horoscope.
00:34:07.460 That's more than one in five LGBT LMNOP people.
00:34:11.140 When they're making a major life decision, they go to the tarot cards or a fortune teller.
00:34:17.660 While there is limited academic research on this topic, media publications focused on LGBTQ issues have described the prevalence of new age practices in the LGBTQ plus community.
00:34:26.620 No surprises here, at least to me.
00:34:28.760 The reason is the LGBT LMNOP people eschew traditional religion because traditional religion, I'm not even just talking about Christianity, but Islam, Judaism, really anything that could even be remotely described as a traditional religion in the United States, says no-no on the LGBT stuff.
00:34:56.180 It says that that is contrary to the moral order.
00:34:58.760 So, people who embrace this identity, not just people who have a same-sex attraction, not just people who have done some weird stuff or whatever, but I'm saying people who put on the armor and identity of LGBTism, they are not participating in traditional religion.
00:35:17.420 And when you eschew traditional religion, you become superstitious.
00:35:22.380 This is a big lesson that people have not understood for the past 25 years, but they should figure it out now because people have understood it for most of history.
00:35:32.400 The last 25 years, since the new atheists at least, we've been told that religious people are superstitious, and in order to stop being superstitious, you need to give up religion, and then you can be reasonable. 0.70
00:35:45.320 That's not actually what happens.
00:36:15.300 Facts that are knowable by natural reason, namely that there is a God, he exists.
00:36:21.140 Then, you actually undermine your own reason.
00:36:24.500 It's like that old cliche, the guy who doesn't stand for something will fall for anything.
00:36:29.660 Similar kind of principle here.
00:36:30.980 When you give up true religion, you are divorcing yourself, at least to some degree, from reality.
00:36:39.400 And yet, the eternal questions continue to bubble up.
00:36:42.500 So, instead of praying, you consult the tarot cards.
00:36:48.140 Instead of trying to discern the signs of the times, you try to discern the meanings of astrology or tea leaves.
00:36:57.060 You have to consult this fake religion. 1.00
00:37:04.400 If you give up true religion, it's not that you're going to have no religion.
00:37:08.320 It's that you're going to fall into some kind of false religion.
00:37:11.300 That is what LGBT people in particular have done because they so manifestly are separating themselves from the traditional moral order. 1.00
00:37:20.400 It actually really doesn't have all that much to do with sex, per se.
00:37:24.500 It's just a kind of rule of thumb.
00:37:27.440 If I'm going to be a transgender-identifying person, if I'm going to be an LGBT-identifying person, then I'm not going to be Catholic.
00:37:36.760 Because the Catholic Church says, I can't identify that way.
00:37:39.680 But I have to go along with the moral teachings of the Catholic Church.
00:37:43.340 Okay, well then, I'm going to fall into some other New Age religion.
00:37:47.440 No, you don't need to take my word for it.
00:37:48.920 You don't even need to take Pew's word for it.
00:37:50.140 The LGBT publications, per Pew, are admitting there's a lot of New Age stuff there.
00:37:57.620 Don't fall into that.
00:37:59.160 There's a priest or a layperson, I don't remember which, that said that today, used to be 20 years ago, you'd have to convince people not to be atheists.
00:38:06.100 The evangelists would go out and say, don't be atheist, be Christian.
00:38:09.100 Today, you don't need to convince people not to be atheists.
00:38:11.980 You need to convince them not to get involved in the occult, in New Age, in all the weird pseudo-religions.
00:38:19.520 Don't do it.
00:38:21.200 Don't do it.
00:38:21.900 Don't consult astrologers, folks.
00:38:23.680 It says it in the Bible, and you heard it here as well.
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00:39:01.040 My favorite comment yesterday is from IvanUD1GR, who says, oh, this is a fitting topic.
00:39:08.600 Why do lesbians get to have an opinion on abortion if men can't? 1.00
00:39:12.900 It's a good point.
00:39:13.500 I guess they would say, because in principle, a lesbian can get pregnant. 1.00
00:39:16.600 But a lesbian, as a general matter, will not get pregnant. 1.00
00:39:23.120 So why, yeah, isn't, if the rule is, well, if you can't get pregnant, then you don't have an opinion on it.
00:39:29.020 Well, if a lesbian, you know, in as much as she is a lesbian, can't get pregnant, well, why does she get to have an opinion? 1.00
00:39:36.020 I want to have an opinion about abortion.
00:39:37.340 Speaking of religion, there is a modern Protestant worship music composer named Brandon Lake.
00:39:46.320 Now, you know me, I'm a macro-snapping papist, so I've got a lot of Protestant friends, obviously, but I'm not totally familiar with what is called modern worship music.
00:39:56.500 In fact, even the Catholic Church has a lot of this kind of modern worship music where it's like, you know, hey, hey, girl, everybody, I just want to pray.
00:40:09.040 And it's all really sappy and like, it ain't my thing, let's put it that way.
00:40:13.060 Well, anyway, one of the most prominent composers of this kind of music has now come up with the audacious claim that they need to make the modern worship music even less about God.
00:40:28.240 I think, last thing I'll say is like, I'd love to see more worship sets, more churches, like, kind of keep Bubba in mind.
00:40:41.060 Yeah.
00:40:41.340 Like, we call him Bubba, the guy who's like in the back of the room and he's like, he got dragged there by his wife.
00:40:46.740 Yeah, yep.
00:40:47.680 And I just don't know if like, when your opening song or the most of your songs have so much Christianese.
00:40:54.960 Yeah.
00:40:55.600 Language.
00:40:56.300 Yeah.
00:40:56.640 I think he has a hard time going like, can I sing that?
00:41:00.920 Like, I'm not there yet.
00:41:02.240 Right.
00:41:02.700 I think he hears a hard fight.
00:41:03.780 And I'm not saying hard fight is the answer, but like, I love like, like when your first song is like,
00:41:09.740 holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty.
00:41:12.120 Yeah.
00:41:12.280 I think he's going like, what does holy mean?
00:41:15.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:41:15.700 Like, holy crap. 0.96
00:41:16.520 Like, what? 0.98
00:41:17.000 Like, I don't, you know, like, I don't know.
00:41:19.800 Obviously, that's where we want to get to in a worship set is where it's just every eye is fixated on him.
00:41:25.500 Right.
00:41:25.820 And it's just like, everyone, it's like vertical.
00:41:28.400 Yeah.
00:41:28.740 But like, give Bubba some language he can be like, all right, I find myself in that song.
00:41:35.040 I feel like that, you know?
00:41:36.800 And hopefully that's what some of my music can continue to do.
00:41:41.300 Okay.
00:41:41.700 So I think this guy's totally wrong.
00:41:43.820 Though he seems sincere and he's trying to do something good, but he's totally wrong.
00:41:47.460 So I prefer, as a traditional Catholic, I don't even like the modern Catholic hymns.
00:41:55.480 I like some good, there's some good 19th century hymnody.
00:41:57.940 You know, there's some good, some of the stuff, actually, the Anglicans have some good hymnody.
00:42:00.720 But, you know, like, I think of, like, good old sturdy English hymns.
00:42:06.100 Come thou long expected Jesus born to set thy people free. 0.99
00:42:10.700 You know, it's, but what it really, what I prefer is Gregorian chant.
00:42:14.780 I really like all that.
00:42:25.960 Now, why?
00:42:26.700 Is it just because I'm an old fogey and I like old stuff?
00:42:29.120 No.
00:42:29.920 It's a little bit that, but that's not why.
00:42:32.160 The reason I like those old chants in Latin and even the sturdy English hymnody is because
00:42:39.380 it's not emotivist.
00:42:41.080 It puts God front and center, but it's strong.
00:42:45.040 It's the kind of hymn and it's the kind of chanting that a man can sing. 0.68
00:42:50.340 You could be a man and sing that.
00:42:52.180 It's strong.
00:42:52.880 It's tough.
00:42:54.100 It's to the point.
00:42:55.480 It's not trying to play on your emotions like you're a 13-year-old girl.
00:42:59.820 And a lot of the modern worship music, Catholics play it too.
00:43:03.640 So, is this sappy stuff, people sometimes refer to it as, you know, like Christ is my girlfriend
00:43:11.080 or something kind of music.
00:43:12.620 And, but even, even I think of one very popular in the liberal Catholic parishes, I will raise
00:43:19.020 you up on eagle's wings.
00:43:23.780 First of all, I'm not going to raise anybody up on eagle's wings ever because I'm just a
00:43:27.440 guy.
00:43:28.220 God can raise you up.
00:43:30.240 I will not, I'm not doing that because I'm just a guy.
00:43:32.300 But it's, it's all this, well, we're going to, we're going to kind of put God a little,
00:43:38.620 we're going to remove God a little bit.
00:43:39.620 We're going to make it more about you and your feelings and your, he talks about Bubba
00:43:43.240 in the back of the church.
00:43:44.320 He says, well, we just got to play something for Bubba.
00:43:46.760 You're not going to win Bubba over by playing some sappy, girly nonsense ballad from the seventies.
00:43:53.100 It's not going to work.
00:43:54.280 Bubba doesn't like that.
00:43:56.240 You are much more likely to appeal to Bubba with a ninth century Gregorian chant than you
00:44:02.280 are.
00:44:02.560 At least it's manly.
00:44:03.860 You know, at least you're not asking him to turn himself into some kind of wimp or 0.99
00:44:07.480 sissy. 0.99
00:44:08.620 This is the issue.
00:44:10.160 But what this guy's saying here is the logical conclusion of all modern worship music.
00:44:17.580 The whole point of which is to make things less sacred.
00:44:20.800 Hey, what if we took sacred music and made it more like the world and made it more just
00:44:26.460 common and popular and vulgar?
00:44:28.860 That's what it is.
00:44:29.640 That's why the, that's why these songs musically are indistinguishable from pop music ballads.
00:44:34.660 And, and I don't want to beat up too much on the modern worship music because this is actually
00:44:38.460 the whole point of modern society since the enlightenment is to make everything less sacred.
00:44:42.280 There was a chasm between the sacred and the profane and the vulgar down here and the common.
00:44:49.520 And the, in the enlightenment, we said, oh, forget about the sacred.
00:44:53.420 That's the, we're going to bring it.
00:44:54.800 We're going to make everything terrestrial.
00:44:55.980 We're going to have the low solid ground of liberalism and we're just going to make it
00:44:58.640 all like the world.
00:44:59.320 Well, guess what?
00:44:59.980 No one's going to go to church if they're just going to get more of the world.
00:45:02.900 You get enough of the world in the world.
00:45:04.240 You don't need that.
00:45:05.320 Okay.
00:45:05.540 And I think what people are crying out for now, including Bubba, what Bubba is crying
00:45:11.780 out for right now is a little re-enchantment, is a little bit more seriousness, is a little
00:45:17.040 bit more of the sacred, the thing that's been missing.
00:45:19.080 That's the thing we're, we're yearning for.
00:45:22.120 And you ain't going to get it by further weakening the music or further weakening the culture.
00:45:28.940 You got to make it sturdy and you got to make it sacred.
00:45:32.140 Got to make it real, man.
00:45:33.560 And okay, I have so much more to say.
00:45:35.340 On this point, there is a very liberal Catholic priest.
00:45:39.600 He's a Jesuit.
00:45:40.500 You know, you know how they are.
00:45:42.140 Father James Martin, you might've heard of him.
00:45:44.340 He's active on social media.
00:45:45.700 It's guys good at getting attention that Father James Martin has urged Catholics to acknowledge
00:45:55.040 pride month.
00:45:59.280 Luckily, we don't have time to get to it today.
00:46:00.740 They will get to it tomorrow.
00:46:01.500 Today is Woke Wednesday, and because of the death of the man who invented the abortion 1.00
00:46:06.060 pill, the producers are focusing on abortion, abortion arguments, abortion nonsense.
00:46:11.880 So the rest of the show continues.
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00:46:18.220 And don't want to miss it.
00:46:27.620 Amen.