The Michael Knowles Show - June 06, 2025


Ep. 1749 - The MAGA Bromance Is Over


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

171.85257

Word Count

7,863

Sentence Count

672

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

The bromance between President Trump and Elon Musk is officially over, and boy oh boy, is it over. Which side are you on, Team Elon or Team Trump? Today's After Show Was Hosted By: Michaela Knowles ( ) Michaela, Greta Thunberg ( ) Greta is on a boat. Greta used to be concerned about the weather. Now she's concerned about people who control the weather


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00:00:47.900 The bromance is officially over.
00:00:51.600 And boy, oh boy, is it over.
00:00:54.640 However, President Trump had this to say about Elon Musk.
00:00:59.520 I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here, better than you people.
00:01:09.040 He knew everything about it.
00:01:10.140 He had no problem with it.
00:01:11.200 All of a sudden, he had a problem.
00:01:12.760 And he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate because that's billions and billions of dollars.
00:01:18.840 And it really is unfair.
00:01:20.780 We want to have cars of all types.
00:01:23.060 Electric, we want to have electric, but we want to have gasoline, combustion.
00:01:28.540 We want to have different.
00:01:29.620 We want to have hybrids.
00:01:30.740 We want to have all.
00:01:31.720 We want to be able to sell everything.
00:01:33.040 And when that was cut, and Congress wanted to cut it, he became a little bit different.
00:01:40.000 And I can understand that.
00:01:41.260 But he knew every aspect of this bill.
00:01:44.300 He knew it better than almost anybody.
00:01:46.560 And he never had a problem until right after he left.
00:01:49.540 And if you saw the statements he made about me, which I'm sure you can get very easily, it's very fresh on tape, he said the most beautiful things about me.
00:01:57.840 And he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next.
00:02:01.480 But I'm very disappointed in Elon.
00:02:03.660 I've helped Elon a lot.
00:02:07.000 So on at least one of those claims on the, you know, Elon's going to start speaking bad about me personally, that is a fact check true.
00:02:14.840 Elon Musk returned the volley by writing, quote, whatever, keep the EV solar incentive cuts, but ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill.
00:02:24.140 In the entire history of civilization, there's never been legislation that is both big and beautiful.
00:02:30.400 The libertarian thesis.
00:02:32.300 President Trump then responded in a properly Trumpian fashion.
00:02:36.680 And they kind of kept accelerating things until Elon finally accused him of being in the Jeffrey Epstein files.
00:02:43.420 So it's personal, it's nasty.
00:02:45.940 Before we get into all of it, I need to know, let me know in the comments, which side are you on, son?
00:02:52.340 Team Elon or team Trump?
00:02:54.240 I'm Michael Knowles, this is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:03:13.420 Welcome back to the show.
00:03:16.140 Greta, Greta Thunberg is on a little boat.
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00:03:21.840 She's sailing with a keffia on to Gaza.
00:03:25.580 Greta used to be concerned about the weather.
00:03:28.020 Now she, it appears, is concerned about the people who control the weather.
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00:03:59.500 This is nasty, man.
00:04:01.760 And I'm in Washington, D.C.
00:04:03.280 You can see her.
00:04:04.280 I'm here at CPI right by Capitol Hill.
00:04:07.360 And all anybody's talking about are all these mean tweets between Trump and his former best buddy, Elon.
00:04:16.300 Trump tweets out, quote, Elon was wearing thin.
00:04:20.300 I asked him to leave.
00:04:21.420 I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted,
00:04:24.920 that he knew for months I was going to do.
00:04:26.420 And he just went crazy.
00:04:29.200 And then not to put too fine a point on it, President Trump said,
00:04:33.540 the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars,
00:04:36.520 is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.
00:04:40.060 I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it.
00:04:42.900 And then, as I alluded to in the introduction,
00:04:45.880 Elon said that the reason Trump hasn't released the Epstein files is because he's in them.
00:04:51.280 Which actually is not really a surprise.
00:04:52.960 We know that Trump had some kind of association with Jeffrey Epstein,
00:04:56.900 even in as much as Jeffrey Epstein was a member of Mar-a-Lago Club before President Trump kicked him out.
00:05:01.020 So that's actually not all that surprising, but it sounds really salacious and surprising.
00:05:05.340 In any case, what's going on here?
00:05:10.300 I guess my reaction is just one of surprise.
00:05:14.980 Not surprise that the bromance broke up.
00:05:17.940 In fact, I was speaking to a friend of mine right after the election.
00:05:20.660 Very smart guy.
00:05:21.380 He's not a politico.
00:05:22.180 He works in finance.
00:05:23.280 A very intelligent guy.
00:05:24.600 And he said, okay, how long do you put it before Musk and Trump blow up?
00:05:28.100 He goes, I put it at about four months.
00:05:30.700 I said, no, I don't know.
00:05:31.900 He said, no, no, four months.
00:05:32.740 There's no way those two giant personalities, those boisterous billionaires, are going to stay simpatico.
00:05:37.780 I put it at four months.
00:05:38.800 And then I did the math yesterday.
00:05:40.460 I said, okay, January, February, March, April, May.
00:05:43.400 And today's June 6th, right?
00:05:45.220 I said, man, my buddy was off by like two weeks.
00:05:48.220 But otherwise, that's when it broke up.
00:05:49.800 And then I guess, so I'm surprised that people are surprised by that.
00:05:55.380 I'm also surprised that people are surprised by the big, beautiful bill.
00:05:59.920 I'm not saying that just to flack for the bill.
00:06:04.240 What more did you want from the big, beautiful bill?
00:06:07.720 Because the big, beautiful bill gives you your tax cuts.
00:06:10.260 Did you want the tax cuts or you didn't want the tax cuts?
00:06:12.080 The tax cuts that went into place in 2017, had they been allowed to expire, it would be the largest tax increase in American history.
00:06:18.740 Did you want that?
00:06:19.720 Because I thought Trump campaigned on making the tax cuts permanent.
00:06:22.420 You get that.
00:06:24.100 There is some increased spending on the military.
00:06:27.960 Trump campaigned on that.
00:06:29.560 Some increased spending on the border.
00:06:31.020 Trump campaigned on that.
00:06:34.580 What's the problem?
00:06:35.480 A little bit of increased spending on the child tax credit.
00:06:38.280 Trump campaigned on that.
00:06:39.160 Little increased spending because of the no tax on tips.
00:06:43.720 Or rather, I guess that could, in principle, exacerbate the deficit.
00:06:46.320 But then there are some spending cuts.
00:06:48.000 Spending cuts to Medicaid, because Mike Johnson pointed out, just down the street here from where I'm sitting,
00:06:52.680 Mike Johnson pointed out that there are 1.4 million illegal aliens who are getting health care benefits in this country.
00:06:58.560 And because there are a lot of people who are on Medicaid who don't even pretend to try to work or volunteer or educate themselves.
00:07:04.120 So there's going to be a minimal work requirement, 80 hours per month.
00:07:07.700 And that could, the Libs say, 80 hours per month of working, volunteering, educating yourself.
00:07:12.340 Well, that means that millions of people will lose health insurance.
00:07:14.620 You say, okay, well, those guys are ne'er-do-wells who really aren't entitled to it in the first place.
00:07:19.160 So you get a lot of spending cuts.
00:07:21.120 What did you expect?
00:07:25.020 Elon says that there's a lot of pork in the bill.
00:07:26.940 Well, I actually don't think there's much pork at all in the bill.
00:07:29.720 There's a ton of spending.
00:07:31.320 But spending and pork are not the same thing.
00:07:34.660 I actually don't even really have a problem with pork.
00:07:36.060 Pork is earmarks to get congressmen to come along and vote for something.
00:07:39.920 The real drivers of spending are things like the entitlement programs.
00:07:43.720 There's some tweaks there.
00:07:44.580 But Trump campaigned on not changing Social Security.
00:07:47.800 So I don't know.
00:07:48.580 What did you expect?
00:07:49.880 To me, it's so weird.
00:07:50.880 Because Elon is a smart guy and he's a serious person and everything.
00:07:54.220 But he sounds like a college kid who just worked on his first campaign.
00:08:00.500 I remember.
00:08:01.000 I was a college kid once who worked on his first campaign.
00:08:02.920 And I remember the idealism.
00:08:04.200 And, well, this is great.
00:08:05.060 We're going to eliminate the budget deficit.
00:08:06.700 We're going to start paying down the debt.
00:08:08.420 But that's not how it works.
00:08:12.680 Even the notion that somehow we were going to start paying down the national debt with this bill.
00:08:20.040 You can't just be running zillion-dollar surpluses for decades and then immediately stop and start paying down.
00:08:27.020 That's just not how it works.
00:08:28.900 Plus, you have this razor-thin majority in the Congress, a slightly bigger majority in the Senate.
00:08:33.520 I don't know.
00:08:33.840 I guess enough.
00:08:35.400 Enough.
00:08:35.800 I will stop pontificating on the big, beautiful bill, except in as much to say, are people that unrealistic?
00:08:42.660 Are people that idealistic?
00:08:43.840 Not just ordinary people on the street, but even the $400 billion tech genius who's going to go to Mars?
00:08:50.300 You really?
00:08:52.600 What did you guys think you were going to get?
00:08:54.920 It's the H.L. Mencken line.
00:08:56.020 I've been quoting it all week.
00:08:57.400 Democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard.
00:09:03.200 What are we going to do?
00:09:04.040 Okay, I said I was done pontificating on it.
00:09:05.640 I'm almost done pontificating on it.
00:09:08.060 One last point, because I know there are going to be some people who say, well, I'm with Musk on this.
00:09:11.820 Okay, I get it.
00:09:12.300 I like Musk.
00:09:13.040 I'm grateful to Elon Musk for helping the Republicans win the election.
00:09:16.140 He really did help the Republicans get across the finish line in a big way.
00:09:19.820 But if his strategy is there's no such thing as a big, beautiful bill.
00:09:24.720 It's all got to be thin.
00:09:25.540 We want the government to fit into our pockets.
00:09:27.320 We need to just slash spending.
00:09:28.560 We need major entitlement reform.
00:09:31.520 Just remember this.
00:09:32.800 The Republicans tried that strategy for like 25 years, and we didn't get anywhere with it.
00:09:40.140 Sometimes we got power.
00:09:41.260 Sometimes we lost power.
00:09:42.420 But it never worked.
00:09:44.180 We campaigned on it, and we never actually did it.
00:09:47.660 And Elon said he's going to start a new political party for the 80% in the middle who want massive entitlement reform.
00:09:53.740 No one wants that.
00:09:54.680 I'm open to it.
00:09:55.620 I get it.
00:09:56.100 I understand why people who are looking at policies and looking at the debt bomb want that.
00:10:01.040 But the people don't want that.
00:10:02.800 The Tea Party kind of failed, and the Republicans lost in 2012.
00:10:06.940 And that moment passed.
00:10:09.140 The last time we had a balanced budget in America was 2001, and that's only because we were coming off of the Internet bubble and we had the post-Cold War dividend.
00:10:17.320 Explain to me how you're going to get that.
00:10:20.640 Well, we should get that.
00:10:21.720 Okay.
00:10:22.160 All right.
00:10:22.960 Great.
00:10:23.240 I love the idealism.
00:10:24.280 But, you know, come on.
00:10:25.080 We live in reality.
00:10:25.860 Speaking of breakups, Biden world is turning on Karine Jean-Pierre.
00:10:30.200 Ah, this is some juicy tea from Axios.
00:10:33.540 A Biden world, according to Axios, going scorched earth on Karine Jean-Pierre.
00:10:37.300 What are they saying about her?
00:10:39.120 Well, many of Karine Jean-Pierre's former colleagues are reacting to the news that she is coming out with a book, and it's a tell-all.
00:10:45.480 And it's going to talk about the broken Democratic Party and the betrayal of the former president by the Democrats.
00:10:51.960 Some former colleagues are saying she was part of the problem, according to interviews with more than two dozen former Biden officials.
00:10:59.100 Apparently, she was a key part of the effort to conceal Biden's decline.
00:11:03.320 Of course, we all know that.
00:11:04.540 She said that Biden was as sharp as ever, even after that awful debate where Biden was just drooling on himself.
00:11:09.500 So, yeah, okay, we know that.
00:11:11.840 No surprises there.
00:11:13.640 What's curious about this piece, just think about the order of things.
00:11:19.120 Karine Jean-Pierre flacks for the president.
00:11:20.680 The Democrats put up this united front.
00:11:22.340 They lie, they cheat, they conceal.
00:11:23.840 It all falls apart.
00:11:25.420 People start tuning them out, not only at the ballot box, but on all their media channels, because the liberals know they were lied to by their own elites.
00:11:30.940 And then KGP comes out and says, well, I'm leaving the Democrat Party because Biden was betrayed by the Democrats.
00:11:40.500 In other words, I'm on Team Biden and the Democrats betrayed us.
00:11:43.740 But then, no sooner does she do that than the people in the Team Biden say, well, hold on.
00:11:48.180 We are going to separate from you.
00:11:49.340 We don't let you betrayed us by siding against the Democrats who betrayed Joe.
00:11:53.100 And so it's not, you can't even call this a civil war in the Democrat Party because a civil war implies clear sides.
00:11:59.700 There are no clear sides here.
00:12:00.740 It's just all the Democrats fighting each other.
00:12:03.160 It's just a melee, an absolute bloodbath of chaos and anarchy.
00:12:07.140 And I'm here for it.
00:12:08.120 I think that's terrific.
00:12:10.420 The Democrats are probably not going to get their act together before the midterms.
00:12:15.140 They'll have some momentum going to the midterms because the party that's out of power always has momentum going to the midterms.
00:12:20.180 But I have not seen the Democrats in this degree of disarray since at least 2006, since at least the time when the Howard Deans of the world were trying to pull the Democrats to the left after the failures of John Kerry and Al Gore and all the rest.
00:12:35.660 And maybe it might be worse.
00:12:38.080 It might be worse for them, which is fine by me.
00:12:39.880 Hold on one second.
00:12:41.420 Thank you.
00:12:43.420 Thank you.
00:12:45.420 Thank you.
00:12:47.420 Thank you.
00:12:49.420 Thank you.
00:12:51.420 Thank you.
00:13:21.420 Thank you.
00:13:23.420 Thank you.
00:13:51.420 Speaking of clear moral issues, really disturbing story in the Wall Street Journal.
00:14:11.520 Longevity is now a factor when picking an embryo for IVF.
00:14:17.520 DNA analysis predicts likelihood of age-related conditions such as heart disease and cancer.
00:14:23.340 So, you know, I hate to say I told you so, and I've been telling you so on IVF for a long time.
00:14:30.240 And the way that people are going to read this is they're going to say, okay, well, with IVF, IVF allows us to know certain things about our children, and it allows us to know the sex, you know, before they're implanted in the womb.
00:14:43.700 Well, now, doing DNA analysis, we can know how long they're going to live.
00:14:47.700 I'm a little skeptical of this.
00:14:49.860 I think it's kind of dubious information.
00:14:50.860 I think it's kind of dubious information, but fair enough.
00:14:53.260 The way most people are going to read that is they're going to say, okay, this new technology is going to help us extend the lives of our children.
00:15:01.080 That's not what it does.
00:15:04.840 This technology, once you get past all the euphemisms, this technology is supplying parents with dubious information, but information nonetheless, that will help them to decide how to kill their weakest children.
00:15:21.560 That's really what this is about.
00:15:22.820 Because in IVF, you make a bunch of little babies, a bunch of little embryos, and then you pick which ones you want.
00:15:27.480 And sometimes you implant multiple of them, and if too many of them take and you don't want that many children, then you kill the extra ones through abortion, and then you take the rest of the babies that are in the Petri dish, and you put them in a freezer forever until the clinic or you decide that you want to finally get rid of them.
00:15:42.180 And what this technology does is allows you to look at all the little persons in the Petri dish and say, I think that one's going to be weak.
00:15:51.000 We're going to kill off that one.
00:15:52.040 I don't want my weak child, and I don't want that weak child.
00:15:54.280 And that one looks like he's going to be strong.
00:15:55.760 Maybe I'll have blonde hair and blue eyes, a real Aryan ubermensch.
00:15:58.620 Yeah, give me that one.
00:15:59.920 Implant that one, and the rest of my weaklings, throw them off a cliff.
00:16:04.140 That's what that does.
00:16:06.720 So it's eugenics in a really dark way.
00:16:11.140 Because even that word eugenics is so charged.
00:16:14.040 Everyone engages in eugenics to some degree, because when you go on a date with a hot chick, you are kind of engaging in eugenics, right?
00:16:21.220 You say, oh, she's hot.
00:16:22.660 Maybe we'll get married someday, and we'll have beautiful children.
00:16:25.020 That is a just form of eugenics.
00:16:28.240 There are unjust forms of eugenics, too, like when you're killing off people that you consider to be untermenshin.
00:16:34.120 That's what IVF is doing.
00:16:37.020 And that's what IVF necessarily does.
00:16:39.660 Because IVF transforms how we view human persons away from being subjects with proper rights into being commodities, into being objects to be bought and sold and tinkered with as we please.
00:16:53.440 No bueno.
00:16:53.760 Now, speaking of former children, Greta is on a boat again, loves being on a boat, and she's wearing a keffia, and she's raising the Palestine flag.
00:17:05.380 The Greta sailboat went dark real quick.
00:17:11.760 She's sailing into Gaza, and the state of Israel is threatening, it seems, to blow her up.
00:17:18.020 According to reporting, Israel warned Wednesday that it is prepared to act accordingly to stop Greta Thunberg's so-called Freedom Flotilla Coalition from reaching Gaza.
00:17:30.960 Okay, the whole thing's getting real dark, man.
00:17:34.620 But I don't think Israel is going to blow up Greta.
00:17:40.800 Greta's going to keep making a show of herself, as she's been doing.
00:17:43.600 You know, she's not a little girl anymore.
00:17:45.880 She started out when she was in her, what, mid-teenage years, and that was a while ago.
00:17:50.460 I mean, she's in her 20s now.
00:17:52.500 And as some have observed, she went from being focused on the weather to the people who control the weather, ostensibly.
00:18:01.840 So, okay, maybe there's a kind of coherence there, but there's not much coherence.
00:18:04.600 How do you go from having your raise on debt be, to stop the sun from shining, to putting on a keffia and shilling for Islamist political movements?
00:18:15.700 How? I'll tell you exactly how.
00:18:18.740 Because Greta, whatever her motivations when she was a teenager, Greta now is not a political activist who is just pulled by the necessity and the urgency of the moment to help save the world.
00:18:35.580 She's not that.
00:18:36.780 She is an aging pop star looking for a comeback.
00:18:39.320 That's what it's really about.
00:18:40.160 She got a lot of notoriety and she got a lot of plaudits because when she was a teenager, she got in a sailboat and actually caused more environmental pollution because then her handlers flew over in jets and it would have been easier if she just got on a Southwest flight or something.
00:18:54.840 But she got in a little boat and she kind of sailed across and made a big media show out of it and dropped out of school.
00:19:00.940 You can't be a truant forever.
00:19:03.140 At a certain point, that act runs thin.
00:19:05.160 So she needed a second act, just like Madonna needs a second act, just like the Rolling Stones need a second act.
00:19:10.540 She needed a second act and she's decided that the climate change is over.
00:19:14.840 No one really cares about that anymore.
00:19:16.360 That doesn't get you eyeballs on television.
00:19:18.200 So what's the big issue now is Israel-Palestine.
00:19:21.900 The pro-Palestine side of that codes left.
00:19:24.520 The pro-Israel side basically codes right.
00:19:26.900 She's a leftist activist.
00:19:28.020 Okay, I'm going to be pro-Palestine now.
00:19:29.580 Okay, whatever the next issue is, whether it's saving the baby seals or, I don't know, opening the southern border or something, she'll just do that.
00:19:39.360 She's just looking for a second act.
00:19:43.020 Now, speaking of making a comeback, normal TV is making a comeback.
00:19:49.120 I teased this a little bit yesterday.
00:19:50.560 According to GLAAD, GLAAD is this pro-LGBT, LMNOP organization, according to GLAAD, the number of LGBT characters on television is down 36%.
00:20:04.820 This is according to their 19th annual report.
00:20:09.800 And the GLAAD researchers say we're not going to have new data on this year until September, but the numbers are likely to trend down.
00:20:18.460 I predicted this on the show, I think, yesterday.
00:20:21.420 I think we've reached peak gay.
00:20:24.480 And, in fact, I think we reached peak gay sometime around 2019.
00:20:29.780 I think the LGBT, LMNOP cultural movement reached its apotheosis when the White House was lit up in rainbows in, what was that, 2015?
00:20:40.920 And then Biden's hanging all the nonsense on the White House portico.
00:20:45.560 So it was, okay, 2021, 2022, something like that.
00:20:48.920 And the height of the trans movement.
00:20:51.200 And then sometime during COVID, I think it just flipped.
00:20:54.920 We've reached peak gay.
00:20:56.840 The number of characters are going down.
00:20:58.460 People don't like it anymore.
00:21:01.500 That's it.
00:21:02.060 It's not even.
00:21:03.340 It would be better for the pro-LGBT radicals if this were still a really contentious issue and you had people on the right who were really trying to clamp down on the LGBT stuff.
00:21:13.260 And you people on the left who were really defending the trans books in kindergarten.
00:21:17.680 But it's actually not that.
00:21:19.020 It's even worse for them.
00:21:21.700 No one really likes it anymore.
00:21:23.620 No one really cares.
00:21:25.100 It's over.
00:21:25.820 It's weird.
00:21:26.280 Trump won the popular vote.
00:21:27.500 We're done with that.
00:21:29.560 And the Pride organizations are trying to adjust.
00:21:31.820 I mentioned Boise Pride had to cancel its kickoff event due to lack of attendance.
00:21:36.300 Not because of protests.
00:21:37.760 Not because of angry letters from the church ladies.
00:21:40.940 Because no one cares anymore.
00:21:42.680 Pride UK complaining that corporate America not going gay either.
00:21:47.420 Hold on one second.
00:21:48.520 I've got many more profound thoughts.
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00:23:16.720 My favorite comment yesterday is from Ben March 23.
00:23:20.340 It says, pass a budget that cuts the debt.
00:23:23.980 That's what we voted for.
00:23:27.160 No, you didn't.
00:23:29.180 Maybe, I don't know, maybe you did.
00:23:30.540 But you can't say, I want massive tax cuts, and I want a massive increase in military spending
00:23:37.760 and immigration enforcement and child tax credits and no tax on tips, and I want to cut the debt.
00:23:47.680 That's not possible.
00:23:49.000 Even the phrase, cut the debt, is nonsensical.
00:23:53.280 People very often confuse the deficit and the debt.
00:23:55.900 We have a gigantic, what is it, 30-some-odd trillion dollars national debt, or debt-to-GDP ratio,
00:24:01.780 something like 120% now.
00:24:03.940 And we have a budget deficit.
00:24:05.760 That is, the government's spending more money than it takes in.
00:24:09.400 Those are different things.
00:24:10.900 So even if you reduced the budget deficit, you would still be adding money to the debt.
00:24:16.240 This is why I was joking about this on TMZ yesterday, yesterday or the day before,
00:24:19.820 that in Washington, a spending cut is when you reduce the increase in spending.
00:24:28.500 So you're still increasing spending, you're just doing it at a lower rate than you otherwise would have.
00:24:32.520 And I kind of get it.
00:24:34.020 There is no way that you can be running these zillion-dollar deficits for decades,
00:24:39.960 and then one day just kind of turn it off.
00:24:43.220 Federal spending just does not work that way.
00:24:45.020 And so inasmuch as people voted for massive tax cuts, massive government programs, and cutting the debt,
00:24:53.460 you voted for a thing that cannot exist.
00:24:55.960 It's like voting for a square circle that doesn't exist.
00:24:59.420 And you can blame Trump, and you can blame Mike Johnson, and you can blame any of the politicians,
00:25:04.540 but they're giving you what you want, and in some cases what they have to do.
00:25:09.580 Am I like the last Republican who is not working for the government who defends the big, beautiful bill?
00:25:13.960 I just never thought we were going to get a better bill.
00:25:17.400 I'm actually pretty impressed with how the bill came out.
00:25:19.520 I know, it's a very unpopular opinion, but it's true.
00:25:22.160 You come to this show for the truth, man, okay?
00:25:24.300 I'm not going to flatter you.
00:25:26.340 Meanwhile, back to the weird gay stuff.
00:25:30.320 Pride UK is complaining that companies are not going gay this year.
00:25:36.200 They've got this side-by-side, 2024 to 2025, that Apple, Apple was rainbow.
00:25:44.900 Now it's black.
00:25:45.820 The IBM was rainbow.
00:25:47.200 Now it's blue or something.
00:25:49.480 Same as the true of HP, American Airlines, Paramount+, even Vogue.
00:25:56.360 It's done.
00:25:59.200 What changed?
00:26:00.220 What changed between Pride 2024 and Pride 2025?
00:26:06.180 Did the culture change?
00:26:08.840 Not really.
00:26:10.540 Did the civic associations change?
00:26:12.900 Not really.
00:26:14.520 You know what changed?
00:26:15.780 It was the government, the state, the election.
00:26:19.140 That was the only thing that changed.
00:26:20.320 Which is why, as we're kind of, I think, showing some of the flaws in libertarian analyses, you know, the kind that make people, get people really, really excited that the government spends money and everything.
00:26:34.960 When we're looking at flaws in libertarian analyses, this shows us a flaw in that old analysis that politics is downstream of culture.
00:26:41.300 Because in this case, culture, the companies, is downstream of politics, of the government.
00:26:46.500 I don't think you can really even distinguish between politics and culture, but as the government came in, it changed, and the companies looked around and they said, oh, shoot, Trump won the popular vote.
00:26:55.720 Okay, we can't go gay anymore.
00:26:57.680 And then he, furthermore, they looked at who's in the White House, and they realized that Trump not only won, and not only won the popular vote, but Trump is willing to use the bully pulpit to bully companies that try to mess up our culture.
00:27:11.420 So he's not even one of these laissez-faire, oh, well, you know, I might not, I might not support transing the little kids, but I'll defend to the death some international corporation's right to do it.
00:27:22.440 No, that ain't Trump.
00:27:23.200 That ain't Trump.
00:27:23.800 That ain't me.
00:27:24.380 That ain't a conservative point of view.
00:27:25.880 And so he comes out and he says, I'm going to destroy your company if you do bad things and ruin our country.
00:27:31.760 And what do you know?
00:27:33.380 The companies get in line.
00:27:34.740 Absolutely love it.
00:27:35.580 A reminder, do not satisfy yourself with mere cultural change outside of politics and government.
00:27:42.920 That sort of thing doesn't really exist in a vacuum, and you can get a lot of cultural change with the government.
00:27:48.380 Meanwhile, a Catholic priest, is he a Catholic priest?
00:27:52.120 He's a Jesuit.
00:27:52.680 But Father James Martin, just as the church is coming together, is unifying, is returning to a clear articulation of orthodoxy and norms, and it's really great.
00:28:05.980 Just as the whole pop culture, even in the secular world, is turning against the rainbow month, Father James Martin, who was famous for, after a confusing guidance came out from the Vatican,
00:28:17.660 a New York Times reporter just happened to see him blessing a same-sex couple holding hands.
00:28:22.740 Just happened to be there.
00:28:23.540 What are the odds?
00:28:25.180 Father James Martin says, it's especially important for churches to mark Pride Month, since much of the rejection that LGBTQ people have faced has been motivated by Christianity,
00:28:35.560 at least what many people think Christianity teaches.
00:28:38.740 It's like, no one, no one, absolutely no one, Father James Martin, we need to mark Pride Month.
00:28:49.780 No, man, no, we don't.
00:28:51.800 We really, we don't.
00:28:53.900 On this issue, is on so many issues.
00:28:57.300 Father James Martin is wrong.
00:28:59.320 He has a pretty weird obsession with promoting weird sex stuff, and he's wrong, and it's unfortunate,
00:29:06.080 and it creates a lot of scandal, and it's unfortunate.
00:29:09.380 However, in defense of Father Martin, you'll notice that he never really quite commits heresy.
00:29:17.240 People call him a heretic priest, and I get it.
00:29:19.820 He's very Jesuitical.
00:29:21.260 But he never quite, even, look what he says.
00:29:23.400 It's important for churches to mark Pride Month.
00:29:25.860 He doesn't even say celebrate here.
00:29:27.100 It says mark Pride Month.
00:29:29.660 What does it mean to mark?
00:29:30.600 I mean, we mark the day that Pearl Harbor was bombed.
00:29:35.500 You know, we mark, we can commemorate things that are bad.
00:29:39.180 So we need to mark it.
00:29:40.060 We need to take note of it.
00:29:41.260 Yeah, okay, that's true.
00:29:44.160 It's frustrating, but it also reminds me of something that's kind of weird.
00:29:49.080 I used to say this during the Francis pontificate.
00:29:51.160 It's notable that even the most pro-gay Catholic priests are often, in practical terms, to the right of even conservative, non-Catholic denominations.
00:30:06.500 It's weird.
00:30:07.420 And again, I'm not saying that just even to flack for my beloved Church of Rome.
00:30:11.020 But a lot of the other denominations have gone a little bit squishy on marriage, and even on the LGBT issue.
00:30:19.980 Even erstwhile, hardline, right-wing, non-denominational Protestants.
00:30:27.000 Even some of the more upper-crust, mainline, especially the mainline Protestant churches, which have become quite left-wing.
00:30:33.960 I used to say this under Francis.
00:30:35.200 You know, I said, put aside the immigration issue for a second.
00:30:37.160 Just look at every other issue.
00:30:38.220 People say that Francis is pro-LGBT and pro-left-wing social causes.
00:30:43.080 And I said, Pope Francis, for all of his liberalism, is substantially to the right of most American politicians.
00:30:51.540 Isn't that, you know, it's kind of weird.
00:30:53.220 So anyway, unfortunate with Father James Martin.
00:30:55.720 And after this brief digression, I think we can go back to ignoring what he has to say about gay stuff.
00:31:00.720 Now, speaking of protections for normal stuff, good news out of the Supreme Court.
00:31:05.640 The Supreme Court has made it easier to claim reverse discrimination in employment.
00:31:14.220 And this from a case in Ohio.
00:31:17.500 So this is a unanimous Supreme Court decision.
00:31:20.700 Made it easier to bring lawsuits over reverse discrimination.
00:31:24.280 Of course, there's no such thing as reverse discrimination.
00:31:26.320 It's just discrimination.
00:31:27.280 And it's just unjust discrimination.
00:31:28.740 Because there's an Ohio woman who claims she did not get a job and then was demoted because she's not a lesbian.
00:31:36.540 Had she been a lesbian, she might have kept her job or been promoted.
00:31:40.000 But instead, she didn't get a job and then was demoted.
00:31:42.640 This decision affects lawsuits in 20 states and D.C.
00:31:47.660 Where, until now, the courts had set a higher bar when members of a majority group, so white people or straight people or maybe even men,
00:31:58.000 which is funny because men are not a majority of the population, but they're somehow viewed as a kind of majority,
00:32:02.280 when they sue for discrimination under civil rights law.
00:32:05.340 And left-wing justice, Ketanji Jackson, wrote for the court and said that federal civil rights law makes no distinction between members of majority and minority groups.
00:32:15.340 That's great.
00:32:15.900 And I know there are going to be some people who are kind of the idealistic types, working on their first campaign, those types.
00:32:21.600 They say, well, we conservatives shouldn't ever use the civil rights law.
00:32:25.920 The civil rights law is a left-wing accretion that undermines the Constitution.
00:32:29.980 And we, true small government constitutional conservatives, we would never want to use the abomination of bureaucracy that civil rights law has created.
00:32:40.360 To which I say, you know, good luck.
00:32:42.900 Good luck in the political order because I think this is the way.
00:32:47.180 And I think Trump understands that and the MAGA movement understands that very well.
00:32:51.360 Well, we tried, we tried for a long time to make the case that lots of the big government programs that have reshaped our political order,
00:33:02.060 that they're unjust and we should minimize their significance if we don't scrap them all together.
00:33:06.000 And we need to just shrink the government back down so it can fit in our pocket.
00:33:09.540 And we need to get back to the old Bill of Rights.
00:33:11.720 And we, but those arguments haven't worked.
00:33:14.380 And we don't, we don't live under the constitutional order of 1795 or 1895 or 1995 for that matter.
00:33:23.740 We live under our current constitutional order.
00:33:26.620 And so if you want to pursue justice and if you want to protect groups who are having their legitimate rights violated,
00:33:33.520 you've got to play within this constitutional order.
00:33:36.140 And if this constitutional order has largely substituted civil rights law for the Constitution,
00:33:41.840 then we've got to make our arguments based on the civil rights law.
00:33:44.220 But we have to win in the real political order.
00:33:47.560 And I don't care if it upsets you because you don't like some legislation that was passed in the 20th century.
00:33:53.560 That's how we live.
00:33:54.820 The only way you can govern is in reality.
00:33:58.500 That's how I feel about the big, beautiful bill.
00:34:00.520 You don't like the big, beautiful bill?
00:34:01.680 Propose another kind of bill.
00:34:03.200 Has anyone seriously done that?
00:34:06.340 Well, we just shouldn't spend so much.
00:34:08.000 I agree.
00:34:08.620 I actually am quite concerned about the national debt and have been for 15 years.
00:34:13.100 But what's your solution?
00:34:14.300 We've tried a bunch of solutions.
00:34:15.380 It hasn't worked.
00:34:16.780 So what's your plan?
00:34:17.640 Until you offer me a viable alternative that's going to get 50% plus one of the members of the House across the board
00:34:24.340 and 51 senators, then I really don't want to hear it.
00:34:29.080 Because it's not helpful at all.
00:34:30.680 It doesn't help anybody.
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00:35:01.320 Now, speaking of Trump wins, just one little bit before we get to mailbag here.
00:35:07.000 President Trump is shifting Greenland from European to Northern Command.
00:35:14.120 So, you know, we have, this is another line when people say, we should just be an isolated yeoman republic.
00:35:18.880 And why do we care about anything around the world?
00:35:20.840 Because we have something called European Command.
00:35:22.560 That's why.
00:35:23.500 Because we have something called AFRICOM, okay?
00:35:25.640 Because we're the global empire and we're not a yeoman republic that just sticks to our own borders.
00:35:30.400 So, you can either ignore that or cry about that, or you can acknowledge that reality and try to make it work for you.
00:35:37.880 And in this case, President Trump is doing that by shifting Greenland away from European Command.
00:35:42.080 Because Greenland is in principle owned by Denmark, but Trump is saying, I'm taking it.
00:35:46.340 You can sell it to me or I'm going to take it, but it's going to be mine.
00:35:49.540 And so he just shifted it in the way that we interact with Greenland from European Command to Northern Command.
00:35:57.740 I love it.
00:35:58.180 Trump is so serious about Greenland.
00:35:59.680 And people all thought he was joking.
00:36:02.720 But we might, you want to, this is really the synthesis.
00:36:05.820 You had thesis, which was like Bush era, neoconservatism, you know, invade all these countries around the world and install Madisonian democracies.
00:36:14.160 Then you had antithesis that was Trumpian nationalism.
00:36:19.140 Don't, don't build nations around the world, you know, make our own country great again.
00:36:22.540 And now we have synthesis, which is we're getting those F-35s to fly over Greenland.
00:36:28.380 They're going to greet us as liberators, baby.
00:36:30.660 Free the Eskimos.
00:36:32.520 Build up Madisonian democracies.
00:36:34.840 Free them from their Danish overlords.
00:36:36.580 Worse than the Taliban, if you ask me.
00:36:38.440 That's, that's where we're at.
00:36:39.940 That's where we're at.
00:36:40.440 So anyway, great news.
00:36:41.640 Much more to get to.
00:36:42.520 But now we got to get to the mailbag, which is sponsored by Pure Talk.
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00:36:53.460 Take it away.
00:36:53.860 Hey Michael, I recently told a friend of five years had romantic feelings towards her.
00:36:59.260 She is conservative, Christian, wants a family, and is basically my dream wife.
00:37:02.320 She responded that she isn't interested in dating anyone right now, but implied that she might be interested in dating in the future, saying that she simply didn't know.
00:37:08.560 I'm 18, she's 17, neither of us have dated before, and I really trust her to be honest with me.
00:37:12.600 My question is, how long should I wait for her?
00:37:14.060 In the meantime, should I act as if I view her as just a friend or be a little more affectionate or complimentary?
00:37:18.700 How should I avoid being overbearing while making sure my intentions remain clear and that I understand hers?
00:37:23.140 She's one of the kind, and I really don't want to just pass her by.
00:37:25.860 Thank you for your advice.
00:37:28.440 Okay, good question.
00:37:30.880 You got your friend zoned.
00:37:33.000 That's what happened.
00:37:34.760 And so you don't know what to do because you want to get out of the friend zone.
00:37:38.420 It might not be that she's just totally brushing you off.
00:37:42.420 Inasmuch as you say she's very Christian, she's never had a boyfriend before, she says maybe she's interested in dating in the future, but just not now.
00:37:48.700 So, unlike 99% of the time that a guy hears something like that, she might be telling the truth.
00:37:55.080 It might not just be about you, she might actually just feel like she's too young to date.
00:38:00.860 Maybe that's what's going on.
00:38:02.040 Could be.
00:38:02.460 Could have, you know, a conservative father or something like that.
00:38:04.260 So, okay, it could be that.
00:38:06.080 So what do you do?
00:38:07.340 Do you ignore her or do you act affectionate toward her?
00:38:10.640 I would say neither.
00:38:13.060 You have to act interested in her.
00:38:17.260 But I wouldn't say affectionate.
00:38:19.260 If you were her boyfriend, perhaps then you could be affectionate.
00:38:21.920 But she has said, I don't want you to be my boyfriend.
00:38:24.420 So you shouldn't simp.
00:38:26.620 You know, you shouldn't make yourself into a pathetic kind of person, which would be a risk here.
00:38:33.500 You asked her out.
00:38:34.640 She said no.
00:38:35.580 You've got to acknowledge that.
00:38:37.100 You're still interested in her.
00:38:38.360 So you can express interest.
00:38:40.140 Oh, yeah, I think you're beautiful.
00:38:41.800 I'd love to go.
00:38:42.300 Yeah, it'd be great.
00:38:42.960 I'd love to.
00:38:43.260 But you don't want to.
00:38:43.820 So it's okay.
00:38:44.940 I'm not going to make you.
00:38:46.800 You know, I'm not a caveman.
00:38:48.140 I'm not going to club you on the head and drag you back to my cave.
00:38:50.160 So, okay, let me know.
00:38:51.380 That's fine.
00:38:51.800 I'm interested.
00:38:52.520 Yeah, I think you're pretty.
00:38:53.300 I think you're great.
00:38:53.940 You know, you could, you got to basically just have a little riz is my, it's my argument.
00:38:59.440 But don't you, if you try to be really sweet and affectionate after she's effectively rejected you, that's going to repel her.
00:39:05.360 But you don't need to lie either and say, no, I'm not interested in you at all anymore.
00:39:10.320 You know, no, no, just, oh, I'm interested.
00:39:12.020 But, you know, okay, you're not.
00:39:12.940 That's fine.
00:39:13.180 Then you move on.
00:39:13.700 Maybe you start chatting to some other girl and all of a sudden she's going to change your mind.
00:39:17.400 Next one.
00:39:17.840 Dear Executive Grassy Knolls, I would like to sing you a song.
00:39:22.800 On the shore dimly seen, through the mists of the deep, where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes.
00:39:35.520 I would suspect you recognize the tune.
00:39:38.900 It sounds familiar, but all the words, though, describing the exact same historical event by the exact same author within the same poem are completely different.
00:39:49.040 This, as a Protestant, is how I view the Roman Catholic Church.
00:39:53.860 Same author, same book, different song.
00:39:56.400 In his book, Long Before Luther, Nathan Bussinitz, who holds a doctorate in church history, says,
00:40:03.300 It was the reformer's commitment to scripture as the ultimate authority that compelled them to teach the doctrine of sola fide.
00:40:12.200 End quote.
00:40:13.280 It's the Protestants who are singing the traditional songs of scripture.
00:40:16.800 The Roman Catholics are trying to sing a new verse filled with popes, priesthoods, confessionals, and communion.
00:40:24.240 Thank you for your time.
00:40:24.980 I hope you respond.
00:40:26.400 Okay, good question.
00:40:30.400 It's kind of funny that you base this invective against the Catholic Church, or this vicarious invective against the Catholic Church, on the phrase sola fide.
00:40:40.640 You say, look, the Protestant reformers, so-called, they understood that scripture comes first.
00:40:47.300 And so they had the faithful interpretation of scripture, and that is why they came to the conclusion of sola fide, which means faith alone.
00:40:54.300 This is funny, because the phrase faith alone appears in the Bible exactly one time in James 2.24, when he writes, a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
00:41:08.880 So that's the only time that phrase appears in the Bible is there.
00:41:14.560 Now, I don't think we're going to resolve debates over sola fide here.
00:41:17.380 I just use that example as a particular irony, that when one says, you know, well, look, I have this great interpretation of scripture.
00:41:26.620 Scripture comes first.
00:41:27.700 Sometimes people can contradict scripture, because sometimes what Protestants will say is, well, no, the phrase also appears in the letter to the Ephesians, faith alone, which is not true.
00:41:38.720 Martin Luther added the word alone to his translation because it didn't back up his theory.
00:41:42.700 So, again, there is much more to say on the question of faith and grace and justification, and I'm aware of that.
00:41:49.400 It's a complicated issue.
00:41:50.520 But you can't say, I'm the faithful reader of scripture.
00:41:55.280 You know, I care, the Catholics don't care about scripture.
00:41:57.040 I care about scripture.
00:41:57.840 And then contradict scripture or change scripture.
00:42:02.200 Because the question you should ask yourself, not just sola fide, but sola scriptura, you know, scripture alone.
00:42:07.980 Can people misinterpret scripture?
00:42:12.580 Yes, certainly you would say.
00:42:14.100 You would say Catholics misinterpret scripture.
00:42:15.720 Okay, so then how can you say that scripture comes first?
00:42:23.100 How can you say that scripture interprets itself if scripture is apparently misinterpreted by so many people?
00:42:29.620 What you would say is, well, I'm a good interpreter of scripture.
00:42:34.740 I'm not going to let the Pope interpret scripture.
00:42:36.260 I'm going to interpret scripture.
00:42:37.060 I'm going to make myself a Pope, in other words.
00:42:39.580 Okay, next question.
00:42:43.460 Hi, Michael.
00:42:44.600 My name is Christina.
00:42:46.080 I appreciate your show.
00:42:47.660 I've learned a lot from you about how my faith informs my politics.
00:42:52.200 As to my question, with the advent of AI, how concerned are you about privacy with our personal devices?
00:42:59.340 I understand that soon we won't be able to purchase mainstream brands without embedded AI that will track and interpret all of our usage.
00:43:10.160 The fear that some have is that it will inevitably lead to a loss of freedom.
00:43:14.480 Thanks so much for your thoughts.
00:43:16.840 Yeah, I basically react to it by throwing these devices in the river.
00:43:24.000 If I could, you have to be, you can't just be a Luddite, though I'm tempted to be a Luddite, and you can't just divorce yourself from using modern technology.
00:43:34.900 You have to just engage in it, engage with it in a way that involves some spiritual protection.
00:43:43.600 So you're going to use an automobile.
00:43:46.060 Russell Kirk referred to the automobile as the mobile Jacobin.
00:43:49.360 Okay, but we all drive cars, and you're going to live in the modern world.
00:43:54.300 But you have to take a lot of spiritual protections.
00:43:55.940 On the privacy point, in particular, I actually think this can be a good thing.
00:44:00.820 This is a little glass-half-full thing.
00:44:03.020 You know me, I'm kind of a glass-half-full kind of guy.
00:44:05.320 I think the loss of privacy can be good in as much as it discourages us from doing bad things.
00:44:14.360 I'll put it this way.
00:44:15.660 I have a modicum of notoriety in public.
00:44:20.120 You know, I go out in public, and some people come up, and they say hello.
00:44:22.700 And I remember when this happened, after I got my show, and I did my blank book and everything,
00:44:28.040 I remember it was very jarring, because it occurred to me.
00:44:30.380 I said, well, someone might recognize me at any point, anywhere, and they might watch me,
00:44:36.580 and they might, well, I guess I better be on my best behavior.
00:44:39.220 I can't be rude to people.
00:44:40.620 I can't be that.
00:44:41.260 And that's good, actually.
00:44:43.320 That loss of privacy and anonymity actually impelled me to become more virtuous,
00:44:50.200 at least so that I didn't get a bad reputation.
00:44:51.900 And I kind of feel the same way on, you know, you need to protect certain aspects of your
00:44:56.680 privacy, your financial information, you know, maybe your political reading and all
00:45:00.580 the rest of it.
00:45:01.400 But the fact that people can get into your devices, it kind of puts you on your best
00:45:08.940 behavior, doesn't it?
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