The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1750 - Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Mexican Race Riots Hit LA

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00:01:35.000 So L.A. is on fire, it appears. I was in New York over the weekend. I was there too. I'd been in

00:01:40.960 D.C. seeing some friends around Capitol Hill, around the administration, doing politics on the

00:01:49.800 East Coast, doing a little business too. Then I went up to New York. I said, I'm going to take my

00:01:54.180 kid to his first Yankee game. That was a lot of fun. I said, I'm not going to pay attention to the

00:01:57.700 news for a couple of days. I get on the plane yesterday. I said, let me check in on the news.

00:02:01.520 Lo and behold, Los Angeles is on fire because President Trump and Secretary of DHS, Christine

00:02:09.280 and Tom Homan are deporting a bunch of people in L.A. And L.A. didn't like that very much. So a bunch

00:02:16.280 of illegal aliens and lunatic leftists and Antifa and Hamas supporters and anarchists and communists

00:02:24.940 and just a whole host of weirdos decided to come out and attack ICE and the cops and light the city

00:02:30.820 on fire. You can see, I mean, there are fires all over the place on the roads. There are cars on fire,

00:02:38.420 a bunch of cars on fire. There are people making Molotov cocktails. So if you've been paying

00:02:46.120 attention to leftist activism in the United States for the last 50 years, you'll know that they get

00:02:53.100 violent. Even just when I've shown up to college campuses or other speaking events, they'll be

00:02:59.560 making explosives. They'll be, you know, there are no strangers to this kind of violence. And you're

00:03:06.160 seeing a lot of that in Los Angeles. Meanwhile, the elected officials on the left are not really

00:03:14.200 attacking the protesters. They're not really they're they're not really counter signaling these

00:03:18.740 people who are setting cars on fire and throwing Molotov cocktails. They're attacking immigration

00:03:23.760 enforcement. It's their First Amendment right. But people should also exercise that right peacefully.

00:03:31.580 We do not want to play into the administration's hands. We're working with officials. We're organizing

00:03:37.360 resources. But what we're seeing in Los Angeles is chaos that is provoked by the administration.

00:03:43.740 When you raid Home Depot and workplaces, when you tear parents and children apart, and when you run

00:03:50.720 armored caravans through our streets, you cause fear and you cause panic. And deploying federalized troops

00:03:57.840 is a dangerous escalation. But we need to be real about this. This is about another agenda. It's not about

00:04:05.520 public safety. There's clearly no plan. And there is clearly no policy. I want the people of Los

00:04:11.740 Angeles to know that we stand with all Angelenos, no matter where you were born. The First Amendment

00:04:18.540 right gives you the ability again to protest peacefully. But it does not give you the right

00:04:24.520 to be violent, to create chaos or to vandalize property. L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, who was a communist,

00:04:33.600 she actually was a member of a communist organization decades ago. She was then a member

00:04:38.600 of Congress. Then Joe Biden was thinking about picking her for the VP. But she was so bad that 0.83

00:04:44.360 Kamala Harris actually was a better choice among black women. So then she became mayor of L.A. and let 1.00

00:04:48.980 L.A. burn to the ground in the wildfires. Now she is attacking immigration and customs enforcement 1.00

00:04:54.820 and saying that ICE, they're the bad guys. And you heard her there at the very tail end of her

00:05:01.600 statement. She starts to say, OK, and also we shouldn't get violent. But what ICE is doing is

00:05:06.900 terrible. Enforcing the law is terrible. Doing what people voted for Trump to do, what Trump won the

00:05:12.300 popular vote on, which is mass deportations, that's terrible. We won't stand for it. Kamala Harris,

00:05:17.560 meanwhile, issues a statement. She says, Los Angeles is my home. And like so many Americans,

00:05:22.340 I'm appalled at what we are witnessing on the streets of our city. Deploying the National Guard is a

00:05:26.960 dangerous escalation meant to provoke chaos. In addition to the recent ICE raids in Southern

00:05:32.540 California and across our nation, it is part of the Trump administration's cruel, calculated agenda

00:05:38.680 to spread panic and division. The administration's actions are not about public safety.

00:05:44.440 They're about stoking fear, fear of a community demanding dignity and due process. I want to pause

00:05:48.440 right there just on this. This administration's actions are not about public safety. Well, first of all,

00:05:53.420 they're in part about public safety because the deportations are aimed at stopping the fentanyl

00:05:58.680 poisonings and the rapes and the murders committed by the gangs which control the border. That's true.

00:06:03.320 But they're not primarily about public safety. It is primarily about sovereignty.

00:06:10.080 Does the United States have a right to borders? Does the United States have a right to determine who

00:06:16.000 comes in? Does the United States have the right to self-government? That's what the deportations are

00:06:20.920 about. It's about basic law enforcement and sovereignty. Don't let the Dems pull this little

00:06:27.340 shell game here, this little sleight of hand where they say, you think it's about public safety, but

00:06:32.700 this is making safety worse. No, no. It's in part about safety, but safety as a priority is subordinated

00:06:39.100 to the chief purpose of the deportations, which is defending American sovereignty and self-government.

00:06:44.900 This community demanding dignity and due process. They're foreign nationals. They have no right to 1.00

00:06:50.720 be here, and they have no right to be making demands, okay? And then here's the kicker.

00:06:57.440 Protest is a powerful tool, essential in the fight for justice. And as the LAPD mayor and governor have

00:07:02.560 noted, demonstrations in defense of our immigrant neighbors, not immigrant neighbors. They're illegal 0.97

00:07:06.880 aliens. They're foreign nationals subject to other nations. I have immigrant neighbors.

00:07:14.900 Some of my ancestors were immigrants. Some. Some of them came on the Mayflower,

00:07:19.820 which is a great cigar brand, but others were immigrants. And you might have an immigrant neighbor 0.90

00:07:23.400 from Denmark or Tahiti or Nicaragua who came through the right way. Illegal aliens, 0.88

00:07:31.840 they're a little bit different. And this is the key. As all these people have noted,

00:07:37.680 demonstrations in defense of our immigrant neighbors have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

00:07:41.200 This is the phrase, and this one's going to stick to Kamala.

00:07:47.020 Overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrations. This, I think, when you're looking out at streets and

00:07:52.600 cars on fire and a shirtless mask wearing lunatic fighting age man waving a Mexican flag on top of some

00:08:01.160 of the debris. That's a picture from Reuters. It's going to become one of the iconic photos of this

00:08:07.800 riot. We had a number of them during the George Floyd riots. That's going to be the picture and

00:08:14.700 the line is going to be overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrations. This is the mostly peaceful

00:08:20.180 protests of the LA immigration riots. You remember CNN, was it CNN or MSNBC? One of the cable networks

00:08:27.320 got mocked so ruthlessly. It was CNN. Because you had a reporter standing in Minneapolis with a

00:08:34.080 microphone. The city is on fire behind him. It's this fiery, but mostly peaceful protests.

00:08:41.080 Was that George Floyd? It might have even been a different one than George Floyd. It was one of

00:08:43.680 the BLM riots, though. Well, that's what Kamala is giving us. Overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrations.

00:08:50.800 She is cooked. She's totally done. I mean, she was done before she even started running in 2024.

00:08:56.840 She was done in 2020. She was the first person out of the race. The Kamala for president, 0.97

00:09:03.540 2028 campaign, that's done. She's going to try to run for governor of California. And who knows? 0.91

00:09:07.600 The Californians are so nuts, maybe they'll vote for her. This is coped, though, to say that the 0.76

00:09:12.900 demonstrations are mostly peaceful. They're not. They lit the city on fire, just like they lit

00:09:17.420 Minneapolis on fire, just like they've lit cities on fire across America. Cory Booker is trying the same

00:09:23.120 thing. Now, he's a little smarter about it than Kamala Harris or Karen Bass are. So Cory is not

00:09:29.220 denying that the protests are violent. He's just blaming the violence on Trump.

00:09:35.000 Look, since years before I was born, law enforcement knows it's good when there's

00:09:40.100 cooperation and coordination for the president to do this when it wasn't requested. Breaking with

00:09:45.620 generations of tradition is only going to incite the situation and make things worse.

00:09:51.780 We are now at a point where we have a president who sat back and did nothing as people stormed our

00:09:59.140 capital, viciously beat police. And then when those people who viciously beat police and led to some

00:10:05.780 of their deaths, therefore cop killers, were convicted by juries, he then pardoned them all.

00:10:13.760 Okay, hold on. Wait, he's talking now he's just lying about January 6th, the worst day ever,

00:10:19.020 where he says these people were cop killers. Again, the medical reports found no cop died because of

00:10:25.560 political violence on January 6th. The only person who died because of political violence on January

00:10:29.600 6th, January 6th, was a Trump supporter who was shot by a trigger-happy cop. So what Cory Booker just

00:10:35.240 said is a complete lie, not even just a politician stretching the truth, complete lie.

00:10:40.640 But he does it to distract from the violence that's actually going on now in LA,

00:10:46.960 violence which he says President Trump is trying to incite. So let's just take Cory's thesis at face

00:10:54.480 value. Is Trump trying to incite leftists to burn down Los Angeles and light cop cars on fire and attack

00:11:03.320 people and attack the cops? Because it doesn't look like he has to try very hard. If Trump isn't

00:11:10.700 trying to incite violence, it's pretty easy, it seems, doesn't it? You don't have to try hard to

00:11:16.620 make the left violent. Now, who is getting violent here? This is the weird thing because I know a lot

00:11:23.360 of Mexicans. I know a lot of Hispanics broadly. Some of these people, they don't look like any Mexicans

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00:13:52.260 Subscribe to Daily Wire Plus. So I'm looking at these people at the L.A. deportation protests,

00:13:59.160 and I'm counting one, two, three, four, five, six. Kefias, Palestinian kefias, to be precise. 0.89

00:14:09.380 When did Mexicans start wearing kefias? Can anyone answer me that? 1.00

00:14:18.400 Are they Mexican? I can't tell. Now, there's some Palestinian flags there. What is this whole 1.00

00:14:26.320 thing about? The apparent cause of the riots is ethnic and national. It's Mexicans and other

00:14:36.620 Hispanics waving the Mexican flag against America. They're here illegally. The United States is trying 1.00

00:14:44.340 to enforce its own laws. And these people waving the Mexican flag saying, you don't get to enforce

00:14:49.900 our laws. We're taking your territory. And they'll make all sorts of you. You took it from us, or we 1.00

00:14:54.280 deserve it, or whatever. The apparent cause is ethnic and national. However, the immediate cause and the

00:15:02.480 ideological cause is leftism. That's it. We all know plenty of right-wing Hispanics. We know that 46% 0.97

00:15:11.340 of Hispanics voted for Trump. We all know plenty of Hispanics who would never go anywhere near that 0.99

00:15:15.940 protest. That's what explains why they're wearing kefias, which is not exactly traditional garb in

00:15:21.660 Guadalajara. That explains why some of them are carrying Palestinian flags. Mexicans I'm friends with

00:15:27.320 don't care about Palestine. That explains why some of them are wearing all cops are bad shirts and 0.99

00:15:34.480 anarchist symbols and the black Antifa outfits and lighting Molotov cocktails. Because it's really not

00:15:40.480 for a lot of these people about Mexicans or humanitarianism or any of that stuff. It is about

00:15:48.660 leftism. But it's, it's violent. And we likewise cannot deny the national and ethnic and racial

00:16:02.360 aspect of it. And this is the part that the squish conservatives are not going to want to have to 0.99

00:16:06.420 grapple with. It's not just fringe people. It's not just leftist activists. It's not just people

00:16:12.220 paid by George Soros or whatever. It is mainstream Democrats, elected officials who are encouraging

00:16:20.180 these kinds of protests, which are, which get violent, which are contrary to American sovereignty.

00:16:26.340 And they're doing it on ethnic, racial, national grounds.

00:16:31.460 They know how quickly we mobilize. That's why they're changing tactics because community defense

00:16:36.340 works and our resistance has slowed them down before. And if they're escalating their tactics,

00:16:40.720 then so are we. When they show up, when they show up, we got to show up even stronger.

00:16:48.840 We got to show up even stronger. So when law enforcement shows up to deport foreign nationals

00:16:53.780 and gangsters and murderers and rapists and all sorts of criminals, we need to show up. We need to

00:16:59.360 escalate. Difficult to interpret that. What's this woman's name? Eunice Hernandez. Difficult to interpret

00:17:08.560 that as anything but a statement of approval about the violence. So conservatives need to hold two 0.95

00:17:16.760 conflicting ideas in their mind at once. This is the issue. The left is wielding ethnic and racial

00:17:23.640 solidarity. That's what it's about. They are wielding racial and ethnic solidarity. I'm granting to you

00:17:33.580 that might not even be the chief motivating factor for a lot of these people, the ones who are wearing

00:17:37.400 Keffi is, the ones who are part of Antifa. But that's what they're wielding. And that is what's

00:17:42.460 giving this movement some of its strength. So you're saying we are Mexican. We're not American.

00:17:48.220 We're Latino. We're not white. We're this racial ethnic group. We're not that racial ethnic group.

00:17:54.520 They are really wielding that. And conservatives can't just cope by denying it. Saying, oh, no,

00:18:01.260 there's only one race, the human race, and nobody really has a racial consciousness. No, they do. 0.81

00:18:04.600 Hispanics have a racial consciousness north of 50%. As do Asians. And black people have a racial

00:18:10.120 consciousness north of 70%. And white people don't have a racial consciousness. Their racial 0.59

00:18:14.120 consciousness is about 15%, according to Pew Research. And we're not going to change that fact

00:18:19.660 by denying. So there is a racial ethnic component here. But conservatives cannot possibly win

00:18:28.580 by only wielding a different kind of racial consciousness. That's not going to work.

00:18:35.220 If the protests and the riots are predicated on Hispanic or just broadly anti-white, anti-American

00:18:45.280 racial and ethnic solidarity, the conservatives can't win by wielding white solidarity.

00:18:51.920 That wouldn't work. Because the country, first of all, is only 60% white. Half of those whites 0.99

00:18:57.760 are Democrats and would actually are probably on the side of the people wearing the keffias 0.99

00:19:02.540 and the all cops are bad shirts. So it's just that even just as a numbers game, that would not work.

00:19:08.000 Meanwhile, the Trump coalition has brought in a lot of people who are not white.

00:19:12.740 46% of Hispanics, one of five black guys, all the rest of it. 0.98

00:19:15.540 So we have to acknowledge on the one hand, racial consciousness is what is driving a lot of the

00:19:24.000 left-wing demonstrations. On the other hand, a purely racial solidarity or something will not,

00:19:30.780 we can't actually fight fire with fire here. It will not work. Even if you thought it would be a

00:19:36.280 good idea for it to work, it will not work because of a numbers game. So it seems to me we're in this

00:19:43.580 moment of reconceptualizing our political order. A lot of the illusions of the post-World War II order

00:19:50.200 are dissipating. And some of the accretions and really the apotheosis of that whole idea

00:19:56.100 of the mid-20th century that reached its peak, maybe in the 90s or 2000s, notions such as America

00:20:02.840 being a purely creedal nation. America is not a race. It's not a place. It's not a real country at

00:20:07.480 all. It's an idea floating in outer space. A guy born on the banks of the Ganges in Varanasi

00:20:15.440 doesn't speak a lick of English. He's a devout Hindu. He can be more American than George

00:20:20.860 Washington if only he holds some special idea or something. That is the liberal abstraction

00:20:27.560 view of politics. The other one, which the Libs ironically kind of hold, and some people on the

00:20:34.720 right hold, is blood and soil, which comes out of a German romanticism, 19th century kind of idea,

00:20:41.080 fell out of favor after the Second World War because of its association with the Nazis.

00:20:45.220 So it's got a little bit of a rough pedigree. But the notion that the political order really just

00:20:49.760 comes down to blood and soil. And we're kind of stuck between these two. We think those are the

00:20:55.700 only two options. There is a third option. My friends, I bring you good news. There is a third

00:21:00.340 option. A third kind of political order, which is an older kind of political order, more classical,

00:21:05.800 much more Christian. And that is thrown an altar, as it is sometimes called. Liberal abstraction,

00:21:12.520 choice A. Blood and soil, choice B. Thrown an altar, choice C. That is a political order

00:21:19.860 predicated on sovereignty. I'm not saying you need to literally have a king. I'm saying

00:21:24.080 predicated on sovereignty, sovereign authority that can be wielded effectively. And belief in God,

00:21:33.420 a specific conception of God, and a transcendent moral order that doesn't change. That's the

00:21:40.020 political order of the old regime before the French Revolution and the subsequent liberal and

00:21:44.860 socialist and communist revolutions. That's, to me, the only political order that can really make

00:21:50.400 sense. Especially when you're talking about this country, which is multi-ethnic, which has all sorts

00:21:55.780 of ways in which we are divided, which doesn't have a millennia-long history because the country

00:22:01.540 was founded about 400 years ago by pilgrims who were traveling on the Mayflower, which happens to be a

00:22:05.980 great cigar company. I don't think it would be wise to fall for the left's traps. And I don't think

00:22:11.400 it'd be wise to fall for their kind of dialectics. We should certainly recognize that the liberal

00:22:15.980 abstraction that a lot of Republicans and conservatives have fallen into is silly. It's

00:22:20.560 going nowhere. It's led us to the point that we're at. I don't really think blood-in-soil

00:22:27.960 nationalism is much of a viable option, even if it were desirable, which can be debated and is

00:22:34.900 dubious in itself. But even if that were desirable, don't know that that's really going to work. And in a

00:22:39.680 country such as ours, there is a third option. Don't let the libs trick you into thinking there isn't a

00:22:44.420 third option. And it requires getting tough. And as President Trump is sending the National Guard

00:22:49.200 in and he's asserting sovereign authority, and we'll see how this works out. But if you believe

00:22:54.140 that we're a sovereign country and that we have the right to self-govern, we have the right to

00:22:58.700 determine who comes in, we have the right to determine our way of life, then what Trump is

00:23:03.940 doing here, sending in ICE and then sending in the National Guard, that is the right thing to do.

00:23:09.040 Then once you reestablish some order and authority, the question is, all right, what are we all doing

00:23:13.840 together? What defines our country? It would seem to me that recognizing that we are one nation under

00:23:22.020 God, conquer we must when our cause is just, and this be our motto, and God is our trust,

00:23:26.700 a Christian nation, a model of Christian charity, that has roots in America that has helped grow our

00:23:32.260 nation to its great heights. And it has roots even in the classical tradition of our civilization.

00:23:38.200 If you view this as a battle, not merely for one nation among others, but for the entirety of

00:23:43.000 Western civilization, that's the way you got to go. And it's going to irritate a lot of those people

00:23:50.600 setting fire to LA, and that's actually a very good sign. Now, speaking of religion, a lady Lutheran 1.00

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00:25:18.040 shopify.com slash Knowles, shopify.com slash Knowles. There is a lady. She is a pastoress of some kind

00:25:30.100 of Lutheran church, it seems. I didn't know the Lutherans had lady pastors. I knew the

00:25:35.360 Episcopalians did. I knew the Anglicans had priestesses and bishopresses. The Lutherans too,

00:25:42.420 that's too bad. Well, she decided to rewrite scripture and to explain why.

00:25:46.220 I'll be the first to say it's not up to me to change the Bible, but I just did. The reading you

00:25:56.480 just heard was edited. When I printed it out for our readers, I changed a few things. For example,

00:26:04.480 our readers read, they did not believe he had been blind and had received his sight.

00:26:09.700 But the Bible says the Jews did not believe. The man's parents refused to answer some of the

00:26:17.640 questions put to them because, quote, they were afraid for it was already agreed that anyone who

00:26:23.700 confessed Jesus to be the Messiah would be put out of the synagogue. The Bible really says they were 0.81

00:26:30.680 afraid of the Jews for the Jews had already agreed that anyone who confessed Jesus to be the Messiah

00:26:36.600 would be put out of the synagogue. I edited out the references to the Jews because without

00:26:43.440 interpreting those references, we could get into big trouble and not the good trouble kind.

00:26:50.660 These passages make it sound as if there are two groups at odds with each other, the Christians

00:26:56.160 and the Jews. Jews appear here as the enemies of Jesus. The irony here, she's explaining, she goes,

00:27:05.080 you know, I did this to protect the Jews and to stop people from becoming anti-Semitic or whatever.

00:27:14.520 But then in her long-winded explanation, she just calls so much attention to it. She's probably

00:27:19.080 going to create more anti-Semites than she discourages. The funny thing about her bad idea,

00:27:26.920 her bad idea being to rewrite scripture, the funny thing about it is her first point is actually

00:27:33.000 pretty good. She says, you know, look, this is what the scripture says, and you probably shouldn't

00:27:38.560 change scripture even though I just did it. But without a proper interpretation, even scripture

00:27:44.840 can lead people astray. That's true. That's a great point, actually. It's a deeply Catholic point, 0.95

00:27:51.800 actually. But then she comes to the wrong conclusion. She says, okay, so instead of giving you

00:27:59.040 the tools to interpret scripture properly, I'm just going to rewrite it. That's a bad idea.

00:28:04.400 Because the point she's making specifically in this verse or these verses about the Jews is,

00:28:10.160 well, you know, if people just hear the Jews, they might fall into a kind of rote anti-Semitism.

00:28:17.600 Anti-Semitism, which is a phrase that has meaning if you're talking about an ethnic group.

00:28:22.840 Because, of course, Christ himself is an ethnic Jew. The apostles are ethnic Jews. We've had multiple

00:28:31.400 popes who are ethnic Jews. So it wouldn't make sense to say that the Christians and the ethnic

00:28:36.860 Jews are opposed, since the early church was entirely composed of ethnic Jews. However,

00:28:45.140 the scripture is clearly making a distinction between ethnicity and religion. And the Pharisees and the

00:28:52.840 high priests and all that, they were enemies of Christ. And they handed him over to the Romans 0.99

00:28:56.720 to be crucified. And they do have a different religious point of view in the scripture.

00:29:01.680 So that's obviously what the scripture is talking about. It's not some condemnation of an ethnic group

00:29:06.840 that would be incoherent from within the text. But it is to say there are religious differences and

00:29:12.860 you should be Christian. That's what the text says. So how do we express that?

00:29:18.660 One answer is to rewrite scripture, as if we're afraid of dealing with a divinely inspired inerrant 0.99

00:29:27.620 word. But the other answer is just to recognize that scripture must be interpreted.

00:29:36.040 It is incoherent to say that my faith just comes down to the Bible because the Bible does not interpret

00:29:43.720 itself. No text can interpret itself, even the inerrant word of God. We're human beings and the

00:29:50.460 Bible, scripture is made up of signs and symbols and signs and symbols must be interpreted. And there

00:29:56.020 are different hermeneutics by which we can interpret the Bible. There are tools that come from the,

00:30:04.560 well, the magisterium, looking at the whole of the church tradition. We can look at what the church

00:30:09.020 fathers said. We can look at what the doctors of the church have said. We can look at what the

00:30:13.000 living church today up through the ages ever ancient ever knew has said. We could even listen

00:30:20.260 to some random pastorist lady. That is a mode of interpretation. I don't think it's probably the

00:30:24.880 wisest one, but that is a mode of interpretation. But the one thing we probably shouldn't do

00:30:30.040 is rewrite the thing. Is when you rewrite the Bible, you are denying that it's inerrant,

00:30:38.000 obviously. You are denying that it's the word of God or else you're denying God's authority.

00:30:44.020 That's probably a bad idea. And I see it. I think this point she's bringing up,

00:30:50.180 it goes more broad. Nothing goes deeper than the faith, but it's broader than even just talking

00:30:56.500 about religion. We have to be able to interpret. We have to have tools to interpret the world.

00:31:03.980 This is an important point about Christianity. We're so concerned about activism now. In fact,

00:31:09.160 this liberal pastorist lady probably is making that mistake. Because in liberalism, we think 0.97

00:31:13.820 everything's about activism. We have to go take to the streets and be active all the time.

00:31:17.220 What does Christ say, though? When he goes to visit Mary and Martha,

00:31:21.720 Martha is getting the lunch ready, and she's all busy, and she represents the active life.

00:31:25.260 Mary sits at our Lord's feet and listens to him. And Martha complains that Mary's not getting up

00:31:30.180 in helping her. And Christ says, Martha, you're worried about many things, but Mary is just

00:31:34.660 sitting here listening to me. And Mary has the better part, that which will not be taken from her.

00:31:41.060 The contemplative life is better. We have to do both, but the contemplative life is better

00:31:45.680 than the active life. That's what our Lord says. Our Lord has completed history.

00:31:52.780 We know how history begins. We know the incarnation, which is the turn of history,

00:31:56.280 and the crucifixion and the resurrection. And we know how history will end. It's in the book of

00:31:59.840 Revelation. But we're still in history. We're in the suspended time. And what are we to do?

00:32:03.960 We're to interpret and scrutinize the signs of the times.

00:32:09.100 That's what we have to do. So we have to be able to interpret.

00:32:12.040 We have to be able to interpret our own history. We have to be able to be quiet and listen to God

00:32:17.120 and the meaning that God has impressed upon the entire created world.

00:32:21.880 And it's very difficult to do that in a society that stresses only activism, that stresses only

00:32:31.320 the exercise of the will and expressive individualism and autonomy. This is a problem

00:32:36.620 certainly on the left. You're seeing it in LA. But it's a problem even on the right, too.

00:32:42.400 We need to make sure that we're careful about interpretation, lest we misinterpret even the

00:32:47.940 most important things. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. So let's do it. Let's take that more

00:32:52.920 seriously. Truly, I think, a lot has been written about the return to religion and specifically

00:32:59.000 the conversions that are happening toward more traditional forms of the faith, more liturgical

00:33:04.160 Protestantism to some degree, Eastern Orthodoxy to some degree, and especially to Catholicism.

00:33:08.840 I think this is a big part of why. We realize we've just gone so wrong in modernity that we need to

00:33:14.960 rethink all the basic aspects of it, down even all the way to how we interpret anything at all.

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00:33:57.700 of Israel intercepting Greta Thunberg's boat. My favorite comment comes from Cass420. Nice. Who says,

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00:35:07.600 Greta Thunberg was crossing the water into Gaza in a boat. She loves boats with some of her

00:35:16.860 left-wing activist friends. And the state of Israel was threatening to sink the ship.

00:35:24.960 And some people were calling on that. I think it was Will Chamberlain said,

00:35:27.960 because Israel could do the funniest thing in the world right now. But I felt 1.00

00:35:32.520 that was too much. So Israel has intercepted the boat and given the passengers food and water and

00:35:39.960 whatever else. I agree it would have been inappropriate for Israel to shoot a missile

00:35:45.920 down at Greta's boat and sink it. However, would a tsunami have been too much to ask for?

00:35:52.380 You know, if I heard, I read on the internet that the state of Israel has a close relationship with

00:36:01.800 the weather, would it have been just one heavy gust of wind? One big wave is all we were asking for

00:36:07.940 that. Apparently that was too much to ask. So the Greta boat's been intercepted. The people are being

00:36:15.120 given holla. Greta's calling even more attention to herself with a silly green hat. Food and water. 0.57

00:36:21.060 And now, the boat actually succeeded. Don't confuse yourself. The boat, Greta's publicity stunt has

00:36:27.040 succeeded. First of all, we're talking about Greta again. Greta Thunberg started out in public life

00:36:31.920 as a teenage activist, because we all have to be activists in modernity. No one can be normal and

00:36:37.340 interpret and be thoughtful and contemplative. No, no, we're all activists. And Greta's big cause was 0.89

00:36:43.360 that the sun monster was going to burn us all up imminently. And then that didn't happen. It

00:36:47.660 never happens. The world is still going on spinning and no one cares about climate change or global

00:36:53.660 warming or whatever anymore. That issue is totally passe. And if Greta kept talking about it, she 0.86

00:36:58.440 would not be in the conversation. So the new cause celeb among the left is the Israel-Gaza war and

00:37:06.180 specifically the pro-Palestine side of that. So she's just said, okay, forget about the climate.

00:37:10.060 We're going to, we're going to, I'm going to be a pro-Palestine person now. And she gets on the 0.83

00:37:13.720 boat. She's going into Gaza to violate Israel's blockade of Gaza, about which I think there can 1.00

00:37:21.100 be legitimate international debate. Is the blockade legal? Is it legal therefore for Israel to

00:37:27.620 intercept this ship in international waters while the ship was trying to break the blockade,

00:37:31.980 which the pro-Palestine people say is illegal in itself? Well, you know, this, that, and the other

00:37:35.700 thing. This worked, this caused attention to it. I've pointed out the fact that people like Greta

00:37:43.720 are on the side of the pro-Palestine people is just, if you don't know anything else about the

00:37:48.980 conflict, is a good reason to, to broadly support the other side. If Greta were pro-Israel, I would 0.92

00:37:55.460 probably be out with a keffiyeh screaming in some inscrutable Arabic tongue right now. Okay. 0.97

00:38:00.280 But she's not. All the worst people in the world, all the people burning down LA and waving the 0.99

00:38:06.220 Mexican flags and setting cop cars on fire, all the, all the Hollywood celebrities, all the big fancy 0.95

00:38:12.840 New York society types, they're pro-Palestine, pro-Gaza. So me, I'm not a Muslim. I'm not a Jew.

00:38:20.700 I don't particularly have a dog in the fight of the Israel-Palestine conflict. I'm just reflexively,

00:38:25.300 broadly supportive of Israel over the free Palestine movement.

00:38:30.760 I think that's the rational thing to do because Greta is wrong about everything.

00:38:34.660 So if she's wrong about everything, and this is one of the things she's for, I'm probably against

00:38:38.760 it. But this is to say, Netanyahu needs to wrap up this war. I think Netanyahu needs to wrap it up.

00:38:48.640 He's had a long time to conduct this war and he's got to wrap it up. This is what Trump said when he

00:38:52.900 got elected. In not quite so many words, he said, you can do whatever you want until I'm inaugurated,

00:38:58.340 but then you got to wrap it up. I don't want to have to deal with this.

00:39:01.200 And Netanyahu won't wrap it up. So whatever you got to do to get the hostages back, get rid of Hamas, 0.96

00:39:06.920 whatever you, the war doesn't get to go on indefinitely because the war relies on American

00:39:11.960 resources and it expends American political capital. And it's annoying for people who are

00:39:16.840 on the American right to have to defend this war. Even if you can make a solid argument,

00:39:22.720 as I think could be made, that the war checks at least most of the box of just war theory,

00:39:28.980 then it just can't go on forever. It's just, sorry, in as much as the state of Israel relies on

00:39:35.020 American aid and American political protection, then you got to wrap it up because the Greta boat

00:39:42.540 really did call attention to it. And this is becoming a cause celeb and it's creating political

00:39:47.940 problems for people on the American right. And we just got to wrap it up. It's been like two years

00:39:51.660 now. You know, we got to, got to wrap it up. Even, even this is from, this is from a guy who

00:39:56.540 is on basic broadly on the side of Israel in the war. You got it. We got to wrap it up.

00:40:00.120 I don't want it. I don't want us to have to deal with the political fallout of it,

00:40:04.100 especially in the midterms. However, on the flip side of that, the fact that the,

00:40:08.840 the Kefia wearing people seems so crazy and are burning down LA, who knows, maybe it'll actually 1.00

00:40:13.020 help us. Now, speaking of elections and polls, public support, you know, Trump and Elon were

00:40:21.380 fighting. They were fighting as of last Thursday, Thursday, Friday. I said, you know,

00:40:29.900 look, I think people broadly are going to be on Trump's side here. It's not that Elon doesn't

00:40:33.880 raise some good points about federal spending and the debt bomb and all the rest of it. But I think

00:40:37.560 Trump's political observations are better. I think Trump's got a closer finger on the pulse of

00:40:42.060 American politics and people voted for Trump ultimately, not for Elon. They voted for Trump

00:40:47.000 with Elon. But if you got to pick, I think people are going to side with Trump. YouGov seems to be

00:40:51.640 proving my prediction correct. According to a YouGov poll, only 8% of people side with Elon in the Trump

00:40:59.440 feud. 28% say they're on Trump's side. 8% on Musk's. 52% say they're on neither side.

00:41:09.500 If you just look at Democrats, only 4% say they're on Trump's side. 11% say they're on Musk's side.

00:41:14.220 So a small number of Democrats say they side with Musk. And the Democrats seem to have Musk's back in

00:41:20.380 this more than the Republicans do. That's not a good place for Musk, who already burned political

00:41:24.560 bridges with the Dems by supporting Trump in the first place. Then by going after Trump,

00:41:28.300 started to burn political bridges with the Republicans. Not a good idea, especially if

00:41:32.000 you own really big businesses. 80% of Dems say they're on either side. It was a mistake for Musk

00:41:38.060 to pick the fight. It was just a political mistake. I'm not saying he was necessarily wrong in the

00:41:43.800 issues. Though, again, I think there's just a certain political reality that trumps economic

00:41:49.480 analysis. And Elon has focused a lot on business. And he hasn't quite been involved in politics all

00:41:55.940 that much. And he strikes me in many ways as a guy who was working on his first campaign

00:41:59.560 at a very, very high level, but still working on his first campaign. I said, what do you mean

00:42:03.120 you're not cutting spending? It's just displayed an innocence about how politics works.

00:42:12.380 It was a mistake for Elon. It hurt him. It hurt him politically. It's generally a mistake

00:42:17.360 for people to go up against Trump in politics. Trump is the guy. He's the Elvis of politics.

00:42:23.180 Okay. So you're seeing some signs that Musk is walking it back. I got, you know, I got

00:42:28.880 a bunch of friends in the administration. I'm getting, getting little birdies telling

00:42:34.200 me that it looks like Elon is going to walk it back. Okay. That's good. Glad to see that.

00:42:39.280 We want to see, we like, we like Elon a lot. Elon was very helpful in the election. We love

00:42:44.800 Trump. We want to see, we want to see them kiss and make up. Okay. Speaking of feuds before

00:42:49.360 we go. Yesterday I said to sweet little Lisa, I said, what should I talk about on the show

00:42:55.140 tomorrow? What are the, what are the big things you think she did? She goes, well, all that 0.77

00:42:58.300 I see is people talk about Simone Biles. And I kid you, I'd heard the name before. I thought

00:43:04.260 she was talking about the kid from the Cosby show. I thought in my mind, is that, maybe that's

00:43:10.680 racist. I don't know what it is. I said Simone, like Raven Simone. What, was she the actress?

00:43:16.220 I said, no, Simone Biles is an athlete of some sort. And she's in a fight with Riley 1.00

00:43:22.140 Gaines, who I do know. And the Simone Biles, I guess, is, is going after, uh, Riley because 0.82

00:43:33.140 Riley objected to a man entering into women's sports in some high school competition. And 1.00

00:43:39.200 Simone Biles comes out and says, you know, why, why don't you pick on someone your own size, 1.00

00:43:45.180 which ironically would be a man. She's saying Riley, Riley's a very beautiful young woman,

00:43:49.220 but I don't know, she's saying she's tall or something. I don't know what it is. The whole

00:43:52.640 thing is so ridiculous. But, but Simone Biles is taking the pro trans side. Riley remains 0.94

00:44:00.840 consistent in protecting women in women's sports, which as I pointed out, I find admirable, not

00:44:06.600 because I care about women's sports. I don't think anyone really cares about women's sports. 0.96

00:44:10.020 It's admirable because Riley's side in keeping men out of women's sports is the side of justice 1.00

00:44:15.840 and common sense and reality and human nature. That's what I like about it. But do not mistake,

00:44:22.180 some people are going to point out, well, you know, you conservatives, all of a sudden you're

00:44:25.780 pretending you like women's sports. No, no, no, I don't. I don't care about any women's sports 1.00

00:44:28.540 whatsoever. Never interested me. I care about justice. And Simone Biles, ironically enough, 0.99

00:44:38.360 used to make jokes about this. There was some old tweet that came up from years ago where she said,

00:44:44.240 you know, if men had to compete, they'd win all the medals or something. She's half joking when

00:44:48.160 she's telling the truth there. So what's going on? First of all, there's no doubt that Simone Biles

00:44:53.740 is a woman because this was a very catty comment, you know, bully them. You look like a man. You

00:44:58.700 know, that's really, okay. Very, very cat fight like behavior, but also why this matters politically.

00:45:07.540 This is like liberalism. Simone Biles is like liberalism. Simone Biles, she's a gymnast, right? 0.98

00:45:13.060 I think she's a gymnast. So she's in this one sport, one of the few where women are better than men, 0.98

00:45:19.760 not as physically strong as men, but they just, they're a little more graceful where, you know,

00:45:23.840 no one watches men's gymnastics, really. It's all women's gymnastics. And so she's in this sport

00:45:27.980 where she doesn't really have to worry about losing her medals to men. And she's already got hers,

00:45:32.640 right? She's been in multiple Olympics or something, I guess. I don't know. So she's established

00:45:37.360 as an athlete. She doesn't need to worry about it. And so it's very easy for her to take the

00:45:44.000 politically fashionable side of the pro-trans side. Just like liberalism.

00:45:50.840 Liberalism, which rests upon a foundation of human nature and borders and nations and the

00:45:56.960 military and Christianity. And when it feels confident and protected by all those things,

00:46:03.560 starts attacking them, starts attacking the very foundations on which it rests,

00:46:08.180 starts attacking the walls that protect it. In some cases, the literal walls which protect it,

00:46:12.260 the walls of a nation. Simone Biles here has never had to compete against a man,

00:46:18.160 will never have to compete against a man. So she's willing to attack reality and win plaudits

00:46:23.120 from the crowd when she feels she's insulated. It seems to me that one of the lessons that we've

00:46:27.300 learned in recent decades is we are not protected. None of us is protected from the consequences of

00:46:33.520 ignoring reality. My great priest friend, Father George Rottler, who I quote on the show

00:46:38.400 frequently, has this line where he says, you know, a prophet doesn't predict the future as much as he

00:46:43.400 tells the truth. And he seems to predict the future only in as much as that is a warning about the

00:46:49.020 consequences of denying the truth. None of us is protected from denying reality for too long.

00:46:56.280 Cities burn down. Things go squirrely real fast. Simone Biles still thinks she can play games. I

00:47:03.240 don't think so. Riley's right here. Simone is wrong. And increasingly, Riley's view is going to be the

00:47:09.740 popular one. Okay. Today's Music Monday. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it.

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