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00:00:09.780 DAD40. The great Trump-Musk feud of 2025, a political feud for the ages, replete with

00:00:18.460 accusations of self-dealing and even pedophilia may finally be over. Elon has apologized to the

00:00:24.800 president. The two men have reportedly talked on the phone. Now many people are wondering

00:00:28.660 if it was all just a show, all a farce from the beginning. And I actually have a lot of insider

00:00:35.880 knowledge on this because I was in D.C. when this was happening. I will tell you what really went down.

00:00:40.300 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:58.660 Welcome back to the show. Simone Biles, a gymnast lady from the Olympics, has apologized over her

00:01:07.960 pro-trans activism, which is an amazing story because it means we won. We haven't totally

00:01:12.220 eradicated transgenderism from public life entirely, but we're winning real hard on this.

00:01:17.560 Also, a great victory, something I have been working on and excited for for months now.

00:01:22.860 You might notice I'm looking a little bit more formal on the show today. If you're only listening,

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00:03:05.080 just marvelously. I just absolutely love them. Okay, back to, well, I guess we're still talking

00:03:10.580 about, you know, guys who know a little bit about style in their own quite diverse styles. Elon going

00:03:16.000 a little bit more for that kind of, you know, gangster cash style. President Trump loves his

00:03:20.820 Brioni suits. Well, the bro feud following the bromance might finally be over because Elon

00:03:26.400 has apologized, sort of. Elon tweeted out, I regret some of my posts about President Donald

00:03:33.360 Trump last week. They went too far. You will recall there were accusations going back and

00:03:38.400 forth both sides. Elon attacked President Trump over the big, beautiful bill. President Trump kind

00:03:43.300 of insinuated that Elon was self-dealing. Elon then kind of accused President Trump of being a

00:03:48.540 pedophile or something. It was all insinuation. That wasn't a real hardcore accusation. And so they

00:03:53.580 were fighting, man. And now they appear to be making up. It's being reported in, I think,

00:03:57.960 the Wall Street Journal that President Trump and Musk have had a phone call and kind of worked it

00:04:03.960 out a little bit. And so this is great. This is great on its face because, as I've said on the show

00:04:10.940 for a long time, the liberal media have been trying to pit these two men against each other for the

00:04:15.940 better part of a year now. Why? Because they have a very potent, powerful friendship. Elon provided,

00:04:21.880 what, $200 million to the Trump campaign and brought over one of the big social media platforms

00:04:27.600 to help the Trump campaign. President Trump has benefited from not just that, but also Elon's

00:04:32.960 expertise in the government. And Elon has benefited, I think, from the bully pulpit of the presidency.

00:04:38.560 And he obviously wanted to get his toe in politics. And he's been able to do a lot of great stuff in

00:04:43.560 the federal government. So it's a powerful alliance that has been very, very painful for the left.

00:04:48.820 And so they've been trying every which way to divide these men. And at a certain point,

00:04:53.380 it did seem it all blew up. Now, I kind of expected it would blow up at some point. You know,

00:04:58.840 these are two boisterous billionaires who are both top dogs and, you know, Elon, very important role

00:05:04.820 in the White House, but he wasn't the number one guy. And President Trump, you know, he's been the

00:05:08.880 number one guy for a long time. And so these two personalities were going to clash.

00:05:12.700 Some people are saying that this was all a show. It was all just a farce. It was all fake for the

00:05:18.740 internet. And, you know, people fell for it, but they shouldn't have fallen for it. And I am here

00:05:23.500 to tell you, because I do in fact have insider knowledge on this. It was a real feud. It was

00:05:31.220 real. Coincidentally, I was in DC hanging out with some pals of mine who are close to the situation,

00:05:37.740 highly placed sources, as you might call them. It was real. This was real. And this was really

00:05:43.680 being managed in and outside of the White House. It's real. And I know why people would think or be

00:05:50.300 inclined to think it was fake, but I just know for a fact it wasn't. And this gets to a broader point

00:05:58.040 about politics, which is when I was not really involved in politics, I was very skeptical of a

00:06:04.720 lot of grand conspiracy claims. And then when I got a little bit involved in politics,

00:06:10.420 I started to think everything was a grand conspiracy. And then when I got really involved

00:06:16.060 in politics, when I really started to know the key top players, when I started to see events happening

00:06:23.040 firsthand in real time, then I realized, again, that sometimes things just happen, that not everything

00:06:29.480 is a grand conspiracy. And the Learn Latin Twitter account called this the Knowles-Kruger effect.

00:06:36.300 When you only know a little bit, you've got one point of view and you're in the middle,

00:06:39.300 you have a totally different point of view. When you know a lot, you kind of go back to the first

00:06:42.220 point of view. That's what I can tell you about this. I remember even when I was doing the show

00:06:49.020 with Senator Cruz, Verdict, for years. This was a while ago. I remember I was seeing stuff happening

00:06:54.820 in the Senate in real time and interacting with lots of senators and seeing things happen.

00:07:00.360 And I'd read reports on the internet and say, oh, no, it's all for show. This is all fake. Here's

00:07:04.760 what's really going on. I'd say, no, I actually know these people. I'm seeing it happen. I'm seeing

00:07:08.540 their blood vessels start pulsating in their necks. I knew for a fact, I said, at least I don't even

00:07:14.420 remember the issues exactly. This was all around the impeachment and COVID and whatever. But I remember

00:07:18.860 thinking, no, no, no, I actually know for a fact that X, Y, Z problem is not actually a grand

00:07:25.300 conspiracy. And it's kind of funny that I was in DC hanging out with people very close to the

00:07:30.960 situation on last week, Thursday and Friday, when this was going down. Because I can tell you for a

00:07:37.880 fact, again, I guess you just have to kind of take my word for it and Elon's word for it and Trump's

00:07:42.220 word for it. But this was real, man. And sometimes the simplest solution is really what happened.

00:07:47.980 Sometimes two billionaire boisterous guys who view themselves as great men of history and might well

00:07:54.460 be great men of history. Sometimes they just kind of come to blows. And then sometimes, you know what

00:08:00.740 happens when when bros come to blows? Sometimes they make up. And I think that's what's happening

00:08:06.700 here. You're seeing a rapprochement. The feud wasn't good for anybody. And it certainly wasn't

00:08:13.060 good for Elon Musk. I think the surveys that came out afterwards showed that more people sided with

00:08:17.680 Trump. But even more than picking a side, some people really want to divide them. All of a sudden,

00:08:21.160 they started trashing Musk. I think that's insane. Musk is a great guy. Musk really has helped

00:08:24.900 conservatives by buying X, by buying Twitter, then naming it X, by helping Trump in the election.

00:08:30.320 Trump, obviously, we love Trump. And so really what people were rooting for, I think, is for this feud

00:08:34.720 to just dissipate. It seems that that's what's happening is great. And sometimes stuff just happens,

00:08:40.040 man. These are real people. You know, I think when you view politics at a distance,

00:08:43.980 you think they're all just glittering figures on a screen. But when you get up close,

00:08:48.460 you realize they're real human beings. They're real people. And it's actually a consolation for

00:08:52.780 conservatives because it means, look, we're in power right now. That's great. But even when the

00:08:56.240 libs are in power and the libs are very well organized, they're not omnipotent. Okay. You know,

00:09:02.560 when at all, this is one issue with sort of grand conspiracy arcs is you tend to make a group of

00:09:09.460 people, the libs, the dems, whatever, the deep state, any group it is. You make them into demigods

00:09:16.380 or something. You make them into omnipotent, infallible people. They're not. Sometimes things

00:09:21.040 just happen. Threatens to derail the train. Now, happy to see, no question, Trump train moving full

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00:11:13.340 down now because Trump came in. They thought they were going to get away with it. They thought they

00:11:16.760 were going to have a summer of love. George Floyd 2.0, get to burn down whatever they wanted. And then

00:11:21.420 Trump said, yeah, we're not going to have that. We're going to send in Tom Homan. We're going to deport a

00:11:26.080 bunch of illegals. And then when you make a ruckus and you start setting stuff on fire and you start

00:11:30.820 throwing Molotov cocktails at cops and you start getting out of hand with your Mexican flags and your

00:11:35.480 Palestinian keffias and your all cops are bad signs and your anarchism and all the rest. When you start

00:11:40.000 doing that, we're going to arrest you too. We're going to shut down this city. We're not going to deal

00:11:45.240 with it. You want to talk about a lesson learned from the first administration to the second

00:11:51.180 administration. Trump is using a heavier hand here and it's a political winner. That's what people

00:11:57.140 want. And now it's coming to a city near you. According to news reports, the military style

00:12:04.820 units that we saw in Los Angeles, they're coming to New York. They're coming to Chicago. They're

00:12:10.420 coming to Seattle. They're coming to Philly. They're coming to Northern Virginia around the DC area.

00:12:14.560 This is according to MSNBC. They're going to cities that are full of illegal aliens and run by

00:12:23.300 Democrats. This is great stuff. Ice tactical units to all these cities and who knows? Maybe the

00:12:29.820 National Guard if the libs get a little uppity and maybe the Marines too. Great stuff. I love to hear

00:12:36.520 this. And my question is, why not? You had the protests, the cry of hope, the songs of joy as the

00:12:44.180 left-wing terrorists were throwing Molotov cocktails. You had the protests in LA and then

00:12:49.780 Trump shut them down. And that was not only the right thing to do, that was a political winner for

00:12:54.560 Trump. So now you've got protests in 35 cities. I say as a Republican, as a conservative, as a Trump

00:12:59.700 supporter, bring it on. Great. Good. Have your protests in 300 cities. I don't care what you do.

00:13:05.860 There is a political mandate to do this. Mass deportations won the popular vote. Trump didn't

00:13:13.080 hide the ball. He didn't hide the ball on Elon. Elon was on stage with him. He didn't hide the ball

00:13:16.860 on what he's doing. And he won the popular vote. So it's the right thing to do to send in ICE.

00:13:24.180 It's the lawful thing to do. That's what federal law says to do. States have no right to contradict

00:13:30.440 federal law. There is a political mandate to do it. And even after the fact, it's a proven political

00:13:37.140 winner. So I think the Dems are terrified over this. They're putting on a strong face. Gavin

00:13:42.740 Newsom, he's, oh, I'm the chief Democrat fighting Trump. Yeah, okay, I guess you are. So Gavin Newsom

00:13:48.340 is now getting more presidential play in his party than Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Gretchen

00:13:52.960 Whitmer, all those people. Sure, okay, good for him. But it totally derailed his strategy. Because his

00:13:59.020 strategy, he realized the Democrats had gone too far and they were politically toxic and they were

00:14:02.220 going to lose the popular vote again if they kept it up. So what did Newsom do? He tried to move to

00:14:06.480 the middle. And he tried to be friends with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon. That was his, that was what

00:14:11.700 he was playing. He was, he realized MAGA is the mainstream movement. So he was trying to get part

00:14:15.720 of MAGA in the same way that Trump took part of the Democrats. And he was trying to do that. And then

00:14:20.300 Trump forced his hand. He said, okay, well, we're going to send in ICE because that's what the people

00:14:25.660 elected us to do. And what are you going to do? You're going to stand with the law and with the people

00:14:29.460 and with the, our borders and our constitution? Or are you going to stand with the Mexican flag

00:14:33.980 waving lunatics, tossing Molotov cocktails? And Newsom made his pick. Newsom said, I'm, I stand

00:14:39.520 with, why are you making me do this? I guess I stand with the Mexican flag, Palestinian keffia

00:14:46.040 haven, violent rioters. Okay, great. Okay. Now you're the leader of your party, which is unelectable.

00:14:54.040 Good, good. You get to be the number one loser. Great. So now this is going to spread. It's

00:14:59.140 already in 35 cities in the protests, but the ICE raids are going to spread at least to these five

00:15:03.260 major Democrat cities. And it's going to force the hands of the governors of Illinois and Pennsylvania,

00:15:10.260 Josh Shapiro and New York, Kathy Hochul. And it's going to force the libs all around DC and it's

00:15:16.540 going to force their hands. So if the Democrats were smart, here's what they would do. If the,

00:15:22.320 if the Democrat protesters, rioters, politicians, tomato, tomato, if they were smart, when ICE shows

00:15:29.060 up and they have their protests, they would wave the American flag instead of the Mexican flag,

00:15:33.800 because at the very least, then they could make the claim that they're the ones defending

00:15:37.000 patriotism and civil liberties and the constitution and America. And they're on this, they would wrap

00:15:41.240 themselves in the flag if they were smart. And I know what you're thinking right now. You're

00:15:44.500 thinking, Michael, shut up, shut up. Don't give them good advice on how to play this when it comes to

00:15:49.680 them. Why would you give them, I'll tell you why I'm, I'm not afraid to give them this good advice

00:15:53.220 because they can't do it. They cannot do it. Gavin Newsom just proved that. Gavin Newsom knew that the

00:16:00.860 politically smart thing to do, if he wants to win the general election, is to defend the Marines and

00:16:07.240 law enforcement and the American flag and the constitution and the law. And he can't do it

00:16:11.660 because his base won't let him do it because the Democrats hate the country. As they, as they've said,

00:16:18.640 sometimes in academic ways, we say, well, actually our country was founded on whiteness.

00:16:21.960 And the original sin of slavery and it's imperialistic. Sometimes they gussy it up that

00:16:27.340 way. And sometimes they just say like F America and F Trump. And they burn the American flag in

00:16:32.040 the street like they're doing in LA. But it's the same thing. The professors and the politicians

00:16:35.880 and the lunatics in the streets, they're all saying effectively the same thing. We hate America.

00:16:41.500 So they can't wave the American flag. They're allergic to the American flag. They'll wave the pride

00:16:45.360 flag. They'll wave the terrorist pride flag, the one with the triangles. They'll wave the Mexican flag.

00:16:49.140 They'll wave the Palestinian flag. They'll wave all the flags except the American flag. So I'm giving

00:16:53.560 you great advice. You can, I don't care. Here it is, Democrats. If you want this to play well for you,

00:17:00.280 wave the American flag. I dare you. You can do it. So the show rolls on, the Trump train rolls on.

00:17:08.180 It's going to be beautiful. Now, there's another report out also from the Wall Street Journal,

00:17:13.960 how Home Depot became ground zero in Trump's deportation push. This is great. This is great,

00:17:18.500 great news. Not because I don't like the guy, you know how Home Depot works. It's all the illegal

00:17:25.540 aliens are looking for day work, hanging out outside Home Depot. So you go there, you pick up

00:17:29.780 your tools, you pick up your lumber, you pick up whatever you're going to get. And then you pick

00:17:32.540 up a bunch of people from Latin America who don't have papers, illegal aliens to come over and do the

00:17:37.320 work on your house for cheap because you can pay them slave wages rather than hiring an American to do

00:17:41.080 the job. That's why they go there because they get a lot of work there. And I actually have

00:17:46.800 sympathy for those guys because they are, they're obviously hardworking guys. They're out there

00:17:50.680 trying to work. They're not like welfare receiving, you know, couch potatoes or something. I have

00:17:56.880 sympathy for them, but they're not supposed to be here. And if they want to come here, they need to

00:18:02.320 get in line, but we should actually drastically reduce all immigration, including legal immigration.

00:18:06.100 And sorry, we have a right to be a sovereign country. And we have a right to our culture and to

00:18:11.600 our language and to our demographics and to electoral security. And we have a right to those

00:18:17.880 things. And I'm sorry that the Democrats told you to come over here. I'm sorry that Joe Biden rolled

00:18:22.560 out the red carpet and Kamala Harris wouldn't close the border. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you got

00:18:26.500 hoodwinked, but you did something bad too. You broke our laws. You knew you were breaking our laws. You

00:18:30.720 worked with hideous, evil cartels to do it. And so sorry, you got to go. This is a great sign

00:18:37.840 because it means that Trump is serious about the deportations.

00:18:43.800 If Trump were not serious about the deportations, as I've pointed out, a conservative estimate,

00:18:47.540 we have 11 to 16 million illegal aliens in the country. If Trump were only going and arresting

00:18:52.100 MS-13 and Trendeiragua and even the people around them, we would, by the end of this term,

00:18:57.480 deport, what, at best 200,000 to 400,000 people. And that's a generous estimate. That's nothing.

00:19:07.040 That's a fraction of an iota of a fraction of a drop in the bucket.

00:19:11.020 But Trump didn't get elected just to deport Trendeiragua. He got elected on a campaign

00:19:16.780 promising mass deportations. That's what the people want. Of all sorts of races,

00:19:23.920 all sorts of backgrounds, Trump won 46% of the Hispanic vote on that line. And if you want to get

00:19:29.380 mass deportations of illegal aliens, go to Home Depot. And the libs are going to cry their

00:19:35.360 crocodile tears because they're going to lose their slave labor and they're going to have to

00:19:37.860 pay more to mow their lawn. Okay. Yeah, that's a pity. It's a pity that you gave us this situation.

00:19:43.640 But this means that Trump is serious. It means that the second Trump administration

00:19:49.080 is a little different from the first Trump administration.

00:19:52.160 And I prefer the second Trump administration. I really like the first one, but I prefer the

00:19:58.900 second one. Kim Kardashian is attacking Trump. Speaking of flashbacks from the first Trump

00:20:04.420 administration, she's hitting Trump over the deportations. She writes, do I have it? Where's

00:20:09.620 Kim? No, I don't have it. I'll try to read it on the screen, even though it's in silly colors.

00:20:15.480 When we're told that ICE exists to keep our country safe and remove violent criminals,

00:20:22.200 great. Hold on, pause. I'm going to put your pause right there. I don't know why you were

00:20:26.860 told that. That's not why ICE exists. ICE does not exist to keep our country safe and remove

00:20:32.140 violent criminals. ICE stands for immigration and customs enforcement. ICE exists to enforce

00:20:38.760 immigration law, not just to remove the violent criminals, not just to keep you safe. You got

00:20:43.860 cops to keep you safe. You got the military to keep you safe. Specifically what ICE does is enforce

00:20:48.740 immigration law. It's a little slate of hand that the libs always try to push. Well, you're just

00:20:54.680 supposed to deport the violent ones. No, no, you're supposed to deport all of them. They're not

00:20:57.860 supposed to be here. But when we witness innocent, hardworking, they're not innocent. They committed

00:21:02.240 crimes. Hardworking people being ripped from their families. They don't need to be ripped from their

00:21:05.660 families. The whole family should go. In inhumane ways. It's not inhumane. It's very legal,

00:21:09.420 orderly ways. We have to speak up. We have to do what's right. Growing up in LA, I saw

00:21:13.800 how deeply immigrants are woven into the fabric of the city. Immigrants are woven into the fabric

00:21:17.900 of America for better and worse to greater and lesser degrees over history. That's true.

00:21:22.180 Illegal aliens and legal immigrants are totally different groups. And these are our neighbors,

00:21:27.940 our friends, our classmates, our coworkers, our slaves. She doesn't say that, but that's what

00:21:30.900 she means. They're our slaves. We hire them to give us cheap labor. And you're taking my cheap labor

00:21:36.660 away. Yeah, sorry, lady. You got to pay a little bit more. No matter where you fall politically,

00:21:40.480 it's clear our communities thrive because of the contributions of immigrants. No.

00:21:43.960 Immigrants can help and immigrants can also tax our resources and commit crimes and rape and murder

00:21:47.660 people. It is far from clear that our cities thrive because of immigrants. Some immigrants are great.

00:21:55.940 Some are terrible. Some are here legally. Some are here illegally. The illegal one's got to go.

00:22:01.800 We can't turn a blind eye. There has to be a better way. Kim Kardashian was maybe the worst part of the

00:22:07.800 first Trump administration. She was awful. And she got smuggled in because Trump was buddies with Kanye

00:22:13.700 West and they were married at that point. Not Trump and Kim Kardashian, but Kanye and Kim Kardashian.

00:22:19.960 And so she had this big role in the White House. And her role, it was awful. She's a huge lib.

00:22:24.400 And her big contribution was pushing the Jailbreak Act where we let criminals out of prison for some

00:22:30.160 reason. Trump gets elected to put more criminals in prison. And then this lady weasels her way into the

00:22:35.720 White House. And then her big achievement is to let criminals out of prison. It was terrible.

00:22:39.920 This woman is awful. And she should be kept as far away from the White House as possible.

00:22:42.720 What she's saying here about ICE is just not true. Her views are wrong. And I am quite hopeful that she

00:22:49.020 has very little sway in the White House these days. Because, as I just mentioned, there is a difference

00:22:53.240 between the first Trump admin and the second Trump admin. And the first Trump admin was good.

00:22:58.620 I really liked it. I'm real gung-ho about it. The second Trump admin is better. It's a better oiled

00:23:04.680 machine. It's working better even when fights break out. When little feuds break out, they're

00:23:08.460 resolved quickly. People are working together. It's staffed very well. The people are very serious

00:23:13.260 all the way up to the top. The president is a little more battle-hardened because he's been in

00:23:17.320 this a long time. The vice president is superb. The cabinet is excellent. It is all the way down to

00:23:21.860 the staff level. The staff is just better overall than it was in the first term. This is good stuff.

00:23:27.120 I like Trump 1.0. I would love Trump 2.0. Now, we're getting wins not only on hard,

00:23:35.540 nit-and-gritty politics, government action. We're getting major cultural wins, too, as we saw in the

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00:24:54.380 hammermaid.com slash knolls, promo code K-N-O-W-L-E-S. Speaking of liberal celebrity ladies, Simone

00:25:02.360 Biles, I talked about her on the show. She's a gymnast lady. She's an Olympian. She's won many

00:25:08.180 medals, I am told. I don't watch the Olympics, but I'm told that. And she's a huge lib, and she attacked

00:25:12.820 my friend Riley Gaines in a nasty, catty way. Because Riley Gaines, as opposed to hulking dudes

00:25:19.320 participating in women's sports for obvious reasons, for matters of justice, for matters of

00:25:25.000 safety, all the rest. And Simone Biles attacked Riley and called her ugly, which is insane.

00:25:31.520 Riley Gaines is a very good-looking woman. And Simone Biles, this is how I know Simone Biles is at least

00:25:37.120 not a man. Simone Biles attacked her in this very catty, girly way. If you competed against people

00:25:42.060 who are your size, you'd compete against a man. A little catfight breaks out. And she was doing

00:25:47.020 this because she's all gung-ho on the trans stuff. Five years ago, Simone Biles would have won,

00:25:54.900 Riley Gaines would have lost. Simone Biles would be given even more endorsement deals

00:25:58.720 because of standing up for transgenderism. And what happened now? She apologized. She writes this,

00:26:07.080 I wanted to follow up from my last tweets. Last tweets were, you're ugly, Riley Gaines,

00:26:11.560 and I hate you, and we need dudes in women's sports. Me, me, me, me, me. And this is a little

00:26:15.480 more measured. Whatever PR firm wrote this, you were actually probably a little too measured because

00:26:19.380 it reads so inauthentic. I wanted to follow up from my last tweets. I've always believed competitive

00:26:24.160 equity and inclusivity are both essential in sport. The current system does not adequately balance

00:26:29.440 these important principles, which often leads to frustration and heated exchanges.

00:26:32.740 It didn't help for me to get personal with Riley, which I apologize for. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:26:36.560 You do apologize. That's right. And why are you apologizing? These are sensitive,

00:26:40.760 complicated. Oh, they're complicated issues? I thought you said it was a simple issue

00:26:43.460 that fellas should participate in women's sports. And if you don't go along with that,

00:26:47.700 you're a terrible bigot and ugly. No, these are sensitive, complicated issues now

00:26:51.760 that I truly don't have the answers or solutions to. Yeah, you don't.

00:26:55.600 But I believe it starts with empathy and respect. Yeah, good. Yeah, I like this more respectful tone.

00:27:00.520 I was not advocating for policies to compromise fairness in women's sports. Yes, you were.

00:27:04.280 Yes, you were. You were advocating for dudes to participate in women's sports and beat them

00:27:08.480 because men are physically stronger than women. You were. And now you're lying and you're relieving

00:27:13.420 yourself on my leg and you're telling me it's raining, but at least you're apologizing.

00:27:16.480 My objection is to be singling out children for public scrutiny, blah, blah, blah. Here's why I

00:27:20.920 didn't really say what I said. XOXO, Simone Hart. Yeah. Yeah, we won. And some people are saying,

00:27:25.940 well, it's not a sincere apology. I don't know. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. You're right. It doesn't

00:27:29.680 read like she wrote it, but who cares? When you tell your little kid, you know, I have two toddlers,

00:27:38.800 all boys, two toddlers, one baby boy. And my two toddlers, when they get into a little fight and you

00:27:43.780 say, say you're sorry. Sometimes, sometimes they will. I have sweet little boys. Sometimes they will

00:27:48.520 sincerely say they're sorry. Sometimes they don't want to say they're sorry. You say, you say you're

00:27:52.420 sorry right now. And you got a little stick and you got a little carrot, you know, and you make sure

00:27:56.380 that they say, and they say, oh, I'm sorry. Did they say, oh, I'm sorry because they're sincere

00:28:00.800 about it? No. They said, I'm sorry because you made them do it. And the fact that you can make

00:28:06.080 them do it means you have authority. You're the sovereign. We are the sovereign now. Look at me.

00:28:11.860 Look at me. Look at me. We are the cultural hegemons now. That's what, that's what that means.

00:28:17.800 The incentives, financial, political, all the rest, cultural, are pressuring Simone Biles to disavow

00:28:29.640 the transgender ideology and to grovel to Riley Gaines and to all of us and to the electorate and

00:28:38.220 to Trump. Fine by me. We won. We won. We've not fully eradicated transgenderism from public life

00:28:47.460 entirely yet. But as I pointed out, ideas have momentum and they go down a long way following

00:28:52.960 their own inner logic. And then when you pull on that thread and you expose a weakness, they start

00:28:59.080 going back in the other direction and they don't just stop when the libs want them to stop. They

00:29:01.880 keep going. Good, good stuff. Speaking of uneducated people, the president of the National

00:29:07.000 Education Association, I was just filmed shrieking, it's on C-SPAN cameras, shrieking at an

00:29:14.180 anti-deportation rally. We the people, we the people, we the people, all of us, all of us have

00:29:28.280 that right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of justice. Woo! This is a Howard Dean scream

00:29:38.180 of teacher unions. Got to give a hat tip to Corey DeAngelis for finding this clip.

00:29:43.780 These are the people in charge of education in America. And I know some people are considering

00:29:47.340 homeschooling their kids or sending them to, I don't know, a charter school or a co-op or something.

00:29:52.380 And I know, because I feel it myself, the objection is, well, am I capable of it? I don't know the first

00:29:59.140 thing about teaching. Am I capable of teaching my children? A little encouragement is, these are the

00:30:05.600 people educating your kids. These are the people running the mob that works with all the teachers

00:30:10.980 that teach your kids. And that woman does not sound like she graduated from the eighth grade.

00:30:18.000 That woman is not educated. She's not in control of her emotions. She doesn't know anything.

00:30:22.500 She's advocating policies that are contrary to law and reason and the good, the true, and the beautiful.

00:30:28.600 Whatever you do with your kid's education, don't send them to her.

00:30:31.640 Why is a teacher union president at an anti-deportation rally? Unless, I don't know,

00:30:40.440 maybe some of the teachers are illegals or something. I don't know. But why? Those two

00:30:43.460 should not have much to do with each other. And if they have anything to do with each other,

00:30:47.480 the teachers should be teaching people to follow the law and justice and reason.

00:30:55.620 Those are the people in charge of education. So when homeschooling rises, when charter schools rise,

00:31:00.080 when the co-ops and all this sort of stuff are out, when people look for alternatives,

00:31:04.660 they're doing so for very, very good reason. I'm not saying everyone's fit to homeschool. They're

00:31:09.740 not. I'm not saying everyone can afford a private school. They can't. I'm not saying that everyone's

00:31:13.600 right for a co-op or this or that or the other thing. But avoid that. At the first rule of medicine,

00:31:21.100 do no harm, first do no harm. Those people are going to harm your kids.

00:31:25.260 They're going to harm their intellects. They're going to harm their souls.

00:31:30.320 It's not just the teachers unions. Other union leaders are backing the illegals. Here is Liz

00:31:34.980 Shuler, head of the AFL-CIO.

00:31:38.840 In the labor movement, we were built on this word. And that word is solidarity. Solidarity.

00:31:46.420 The word is solidarity. She says that these migrants are our neighbors, our co-workers. These

00:31:54.900 are people who are looking for a better life and are contributing to our economy. It's the head of

00:31:59.220 the AFL-CIO. David Huerta, who's the head of SEIU, United Service Workers West. I've had to deal with

00:32:06.860 SEIU and campaigns before because they always bus people in for Democrats. It says, hardworking people

00:32:12.320 and members of our family and our community are being treated like criminals. They are criminals.

00:32:15.820 We all collectively have to object to this madness because this is not justice. This is injustice.

00:32:19.960 Okay, you got to remember how crazy this is. Labor, American labor unions are supposed to

00:32:25.980 advocate on behalf of American labor, the working class. Illegal immigration harms American labor

00:32:34.400 because it undercuts their wages, because it provides slave wages for wealthy people like

00:32:38.420 the Kim Kardashians of the world, and even outside of Hollywood for the Chamber of Commerce type

00:32:44.440 squishy Republicans. So you got these two things. Mass migration, especially illegal immigration,

00:32:49.900 and American labor are at odds in their interests. And the head of the American labor unions

00:32:55.200 are on the side of the illegals against their own members. So this reminds us of a political issue.

00:33:02.220 Trump has made really strong inroads with American labor in a way that Republicans haven't seen

00:33:07.740 probably since Ronald Reagan. Remember in 2024, the Teamsters did not endorse either Kamala or Trump,

00:33:14.880 which seems like that's not great for us, except the fact that the Teamsters didn't endorse the

00:33:19.640 Democrat is what's shocking. That was effectively an endorsement for Trump. Sean O'Brien of the Teamsters

00:33:23.900 spoke at the RNC last year. However, another reminder, there's a lot of corruption in organized labor.

00:33:30.940 And so there's a lot of enthusiasm, especially among young conservatives. There's a lot of enthusiasm

00:33:37.760 for reforming political coalitions, especially Trump. Trump made a new coalition. And so there's

00:33:44.380 a lot of enthusiasm. Wow, well, you know what we're going to do? We're going to become the party of

00:33:47.660 labor. Well, good. I want to be the party of the working class, but can we really become the party of

00:33:51.260 organized labor? We're going to become the party that wins votes for Muslims. I do want to win votes

00:33:56.300 for Muslims, but are we going to become the party of, you know, keffias and stuff now too? This shows

00:34:00.720 you the difficulty of forming these kinds of coalitions. You think you just flick a magic

00:34:07.960 switch? You say, okay, now we're the party of labor. Now that's what labor does. For goodness sakes,

00:34:12.300 Bernie Sanders, for most of his political career, has been opposed to illegal immigration. He's been

00:34:15.440 kind of an immigration hawk because he's an old school Marxist and he supports labor.

00:34:21.960 And you got the heads of labor doing this? No. It's going to be very hard.

00:34:26.740 So as we should always do as conservatives, temper your expectations. Don't get too far

00:34:32.960 ahead of your skis here. Don't give up what we have, a sturdy coalition, to go chasing the next

00:34:40.040 shiny bauble. I want to win over American labor. We ain't going to do it by cutting deals with these

00:34:46.160 people. These people are bought and paid for by the Democrats. They would sell out their own members

00:34:50.620 without blinking. And they do regularly. You gotta be a little more precise, a little more patient,

00:34:58.220 a little more prudent about these things to hold the coalitions together. Okay, I have much more to

00:35:03.680 say. I have much, much more to say. Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, just posted

00:35:10.200 a video. And some people are accusing her of apologizing for the U.S. dropping the atomic

00:35:14.100 bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You got U.S. embassies in Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain evacuating. Shows

00:35:20.300 you how wars can spin out of control as there is a concerted effort in Washington to put us

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00:37:14.840 push them to a little bit later because there's another huge story, which is that Bobby Kennedy just fired the

00:37:19.160 whole CDC vaccine schedule advisory board. This is a huge change. This is what, when Maha got Bobby

00:37:27.120 Kennedy into the Trump movement and then got him into the HHS secretary job, this is what they were

00:37:32.520 hoping for. And a lot of people said he's not gonna do it. There's no way to fight these big pharma

00:37:36.440 interests. And it kind of looks like he's doing it. We have a Bobby Kennedy insider coming on the show

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00:38:05.460 is from the Joe DeLoren, who says, I like how Michael's trying to make the point that we're allowed

00:38:09.720 to say certain words again, and then the Daily Wire censors them. Oh, I noticed, someone called my

00:38:13.020 attention to this. Though, I gotta defend DW here. It wasn't the Daily Wire exactly censoring it.

00:38:19.080 If you watch the show on Daily Wire Plus, if you listen to the show, you don't need to worry about

00:38:23.100 these words getting bleeped out. It's kind of funny, though. I said, you know, a lot of people are

00:38:25.520 talking about how we're allowed to say gay again, and then they bleeped out the word gay. They probably

00:38:28.420 did it again if you're watching on YouTube. They bleeped it again. Gay, gay, gay. Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.

00:38:33.220 But they're not doing it for the show or for Daily Wire purposes. It's because certain social media

00:38:39.580 platforms still insist upon that, and they don't enforce it uniformly. It's only certain shows that

00:38:44.060 have to watch out for it. So, all of this to say, we're winning. The Trump trend is moving. This is

00:38:48.060 all really good stuff. A lot more concerted interests that we need to subdue. Not totally destroy. We're

00:38:55.940 not total libs. We need to subdue and get them to catch up with the program. Now, I'm very excited to

00:39:03.680 bring on Aaron Seary. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just fired all

00:39:11.200 17 members of the CDC Vaccine Committee, and the liberal media are really upset about this stories

00:39:18.480 and all the papers of record. I am so pleased right now to be joined by Aaron Seary, who is a lawyer who

00:39:25.460 has worked on these issues and worked with and around Secretary Kennedy for many, many years, who can

00:39:31.100 help clear things up. Because me, what do I know? I don't know anything about vaccines. I'm a little

00:39:34.920 skeptical of everything I'm told about vaccines by the public health experts who spent the better part

00:39:40.680 of the last five years lying to me and gaslighting me. But I don't know. I mean, are they good? Are

00:39:45.180 they bad? I don't know. What is Secretary Kennedy doing? I sat down at the White House with Secretary

00:39:49.720 Kennedy, and I asked him, I said, is anything going to change about vaccines on your watch? And he became

00:39:54.580 more animated than he was in the rest of the interview. And he said, oh, yeah, everything's going to

00:39:59.080 change. So looks like we're seeing that happening right now. Aaron, thank you so much for coming on

00:40:03.560 the show. Happy to. So who did Kennedy fire? What does it mean practically? Who's upset about it? And

00:40:12.380 what can we expect? Well, we fired, or I should say, the people who he's changing, because that's what

00:40:20.100 secretaries of HHS can do. They're allowed to change folks who are in their department. So the folks that

00:40:27.740 are at issue here are members of what's known as the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices,

00:40:32.340 ACIP. It's part of the CDC. What they do is they make recommendations to the CDC director,

00:40:39.000 primarily with regards to what vaccine should be on the CDC schedule, and other things related to

00:40:45.320 that. They don't license vaccines. That's the FDA's job. They, after licensure, will choose,

00:40:50.020 and sometimes not even when it's licensed, like we saw with co-vaccine, when it's only authorized,

00:40:53.260 will choose to add it to the schedule. But doing that can have serious downstream consequences,

00:40:58.000 in particular, for the civil and individual rights of people around the country. Because when

00:41:02.460 the ACIP recommends that a vaccine be given routinely, it often results in mandates.

00:41:09.240 And mandates, of course, end up crushing on people's civil and individual rights.

00:41:12.680 So the ACIP is this committee, the CDC Vaccine Schedule Committee. And as you say,

00:41:16.900 it's different from a vaccine approval. But in practice, I don't know that it really is.

00:41:20.860 One of the first things that got me wondering if these vaccines were great, and if we should be

00:41:26.560 pumping our kids full of them at three days old or something, is the fact that when I take my kids

00:41:31.280 to a medical office, I can get all kinds of services there. I can have them undergo all kinds

00:41:36.880 of tests or not have certain tests or whatever. But the one mandatory thing at the vast majority of

00:41:42.860 these medical offices is that you have to stick to the CDC Vaccine Schedule, which has many,

00:41:48.920 many more vaccines on it than it did even when I was a kid. You have to stick to it or you will not

00:41:54.320 be allowed to be part of that medical group. It's really, it feels like I'm talking to the mafia or

00:41:58.060 something. And to find, if you want to even just space out the vaccines, you got to go search in

00:42:02.800 in the hills of Palookaville to find a medical office that will take you. So how did this committee

00:42:07.760 get all this power? Well, I guess it all started in 1986. You were right, by the way, when you were

00:42:15.800 younger, you didn't get as many vaccines because in 1986, there were only three shots, three injections

00:42:22.500 that the CDC recommended in the entire first year of life, three by age one. Today, the CDC schedule

00:42:29.220 has 29 injections by day, by the first, end of the first year of life. And to your question,

00:42:36.220 how did that happen? Because something changed in 1986 and it's very important. Something called

00:42:41.120 the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Okay. What this law did is it gave pharmaceutical companies

00:42:46.900 immunity for liability for the injuries caused by their vaccine products, which means no matter how

00:42:51.960 many children their vaccine products kill, maim, injure, they never, ever can get sued for making

00:42:58.120 their, that they didn't make their vaccine safer. You know what other product has that immunity in

00:43:02.260 America? None, literally none, not a single other product, not planes, not cars, not guns, not,

00:43:11.860 not drugs, nothing. Just as the product they tell you is safe. So imagine if you have an industry that

00:43:17.900 for 40 years has had no pushback, no class action lawyers. My firm has 40 people that do class action

00:43:23.920 work. We sue companies all the time for, uh, you know, you name it, data breaches, product defect

00:43:29.220 claims, but not this product. Okay. Uh, so you don't get pushback. Cause when you think about it,

00:43:35.040 people that make cars, they do a great job of promoting them. How do you read about an issue

00:43:38.740 about a car? There's a class action lawsuit, there's a settlement, or there's maybe regulators

00:43:42.180 doing their job. But when it comes to vaccines, there's been nobody standing in the way here,

00:43:46.500 not the class action lawyers, not the product liability lawyers. They're totally neutered.

00:43:49.960 And as for the regulators, they're completely conflicted. And that's 40 years of inroads

00:43:54.220 by pharma. That's not a conspiracy. That's just very good business. Cause that's what company is

00:43:59.040 supposed to do. Make a lot of money here. Your child's body is the commodity. And the more that

00:44:05.100 they can get into your kid, the more money they can make. And they have for the most part over the

00:44:09.260 last 40 years, essentially, um, these, these, this ACIP committee has these, these working groups

00:44:15.300 and the work groups are really run by pharma insiders for the most part. And then when they

00:44:19.960 finally get to ACIP, it's pretty much rubber stamp. I've been to a lot of these, uh, uh, committee

00:44:24.480 hearings and I can tell you this, uh, our firm is where we do the class actions. We also have a 40

00:44:29.580 people that just do vaccine work. Okay. When we go into court, okay. I don't have an MPH or an MD or,

00:44:35.740 or any kind of fancy title. I can't appeal to my credentials. I have to prove every single thing I say

00:44:41.580 about vaccines with solid evidence, like that will hands that will stand up in court. Okay.

00:44:46.980 And so the lawyers at my firm, me, this is what we know. This is our stock and trade. When I sit at

00:44:52.240 ACIP meetings, these folks, uh, uh, is often really don't even know some of the basics around

00:44:58.800 vaccinology, which is shocking to me. And a lot of their decisions are driven by dogma. We need people

00:45:04.020 sitting on that committee who have first the best interest of children of mine really understand the

00:45:09.540 underlying science and are going to make objective decisions about what vaccines to recommend, not

00:45:14.220 recommend. And they should always, to your point, be a recommendation, not be coerced, which doctors,

00:45:21.180 as you know, for a number of reasons, um, when you get into a medical office, they will be coercing you

00:45:25.820 often, not trying to persuade you on the merits. Okay. Well then on that point, so he's going to swap

00:45:30.040 out all the people who were advocating for this rigid, robust vaccine schedule and aggressive vaccine

00:45:35.700 schedule. So presumably he's going to replace them with people who are going to be a

00:45:39.460 little more lax and circumspect about it. But then one, uh, what changes do you think we can see

00:45:45.320 or expect to see to the vaccine schedule? And then two, on your point of coercion,

00:45:49.880 could we even see a scenario where the CDC tells medical offices, Hey, you don't need to rigidly

00:45:56.580 enforce this vaccine schedule. These are recommendations from the CDC. So, you know,

00:46:01.420 basically lighten up on parents who want to spread it out. Well, pediatric offices are a business.

00:46:06.660 Okay. Let's not forget that. And they make money. They want to make money. When you talk about taking

00:46:10.400 your child in at two months, four months, six months, 12 months, 18 months, what are those

00:46:14.480 visits? Those are vaccine visits. That's really what's going on. That's why the whole vaccine

00:46:18.960 schedule is the same thing as the appointment schedule for your baby and your young child.

00:46:24.520 There are vaccine visits. If they're not giving vaccines of the visits, how are they making money?

00:46:28.080 They're not making money. Okay. So, um, yes, ACIP can change its recommendations,

00:46:33.460 but right now the financial incentive for these pediatric offices is to give you, and there's

00:46:38.080 even some insurance plans and that actually penalize pediatricians who don't get to a high

00:46:45.200 enough immunization rate within their practice. So if they get a hundred percent of kids fully

00:46:49.780 immunized in their practice, they will get more money per child than if they have a lesser percentage.

00:46:55.380 That's not true universally, but it happens. And that obviously has a perverse incentive.

00:46:59.520 But the excuse, the excuse that comes out from the medical office is, well, we're just following

00:47:03.400 the CDC's recommendations. So let's one, actually, I'd like your opinion on this. If, as you say,

00:47:09.060 now it's 29 vaccinations or thereabouts in the first year of life, will, will that number decrease,

00:47:14.360 do you expect? And two, once the CDC says, Hey, look, the full schedule is whatever, 20, 15,

00:47:19.720 10 vaccinations, then will the insurance companies and the pediatric offices have the ability to say,

00:47:27.060 no, actually you need to get more or no, will they have to defer to the CDC? In other words,

00:47:31.580 now that we have control of the government, can we wield the government to bring these offices and

00:47:36.860 the insurance companies into line? What the private insurers might do and what the AAP might do,

00:47:43.800 because remember, ACIP is one body and they're going to make a recommendation for a CDC schedule.

00:47:48.460 The American Academy of Pediatrics, which is really a trade association that is what? It looks out for

00:47:52.920 the interest of its members, pediatricians. It's not going to want to change its schedule. So

00:47:57.260 you might end up with two schedules. You might end up with one from the CDC and one for the AAP,

00:48:01.420 the American Academy of Pediatrics, potentially, by the way, and who will the pediatricians follow?

00:48:05.740 I don't know, but I will tell you what I do think should happen immediately. At the very least,

00:48:10.160 every single vaccine that doesn't stop transmission, at the least, those vaccines,

00:48:14.760 pertussis, tetanus, the polio vaccine that we use for the last 25 years, which do not stop

00:48:19.680 transmission in any way, just like COVID vaccine. And that's not me saying it. I'm just a lawyer.

00:48:23.680 It's all in the literature. It's in the CDC FDA website. Okay. Those should immediately made

00:48:30.820 joint decision-making between the doctor and the patient. They're no different than heart medicine.

00:48:36.540 They're no different than other things. Maybe we want people to get them. Maybe we don't,

00:48:39.520 but they should never be coerced. And the way they get coerced is because they're considered

00:48:43.520 quote unquote routine. So that should immediately be changed. And that constitutes most of the mandated

00:48:48.780 vaccines in America, actually, for children, the ones that I just listed. So that should happen

00:48:52.320 on day one, just like Secretary Kennedy did the other day by making the COVID vaccine joint decision

00:48:57.580 making. He didn't take it off the schedule. He didn't say it's not on the CDC schedule. He just

00:49:01.640 said, we're going to make it so that this product is one where you should talk to your trusted healthcare

00:49:08.480 professional and make a decision together. You know, freedom. Okay. So you've said that's what should

00:49:13.840 happen. And I think that's going to make sense to a lot of people. Before I let you go here in just our

00:49:18.020 last few seconds. Do you expect that that will happen or do you not want to take out your crystal

00:49:22.540 ball? Well, look, why don't we have me back on it after I see who the 17 members are and hear their

00:49:30.220 additional and then we can give you my speculation. Fair enough. But knowing Bobby Kennedy, are you

00:49:35.060 hopeful? I am hopeful, but obviously Mr. Kennedy, excuse me, Secretary Kennedy, you know, is not the

00:49:43.240 ultimate authority in the federal government. And so will he get all the picks that he wants?

00:49:48.820 We'll see. Good point. Aaron Seery, thank you so much for coming on the show. Really appreciate it.

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