The Michael Knowles Show - June 17, 2025


Ep. 1756 - Did Trump Betray MAGA Over Iran?


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

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181.90149

Word Count

8,271

Sentence Count

658

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

Right wing influencers were up in arms last night over the prospect of President Trump going to war with Iran because of the Iranian nuclear program. This, they said, would constitute a betrayal of the MAGA movement and everything President Trump was elected to do.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Right wing influencers were up in arms last night over the prospect of President Trump going to war
00:00:05.540 with Iran because of the Iranian nuclear program. Now it's worth mentioning, since this fact seems
00:00:11.540 to be lost on some people, that the United States is not in fact at war with Iran. But these
00:00:17.780 influencers and pundits were furious that Trump might go to war with Iran. This, they said,
00:00:24.700 would constitute a betrayal of the MAGA movement, a betrayal of everything President Trump
00:00:32.000 campaigned on and was elected to do. Trump, they pointed out, was elected on getting us out of
00:00:39.300 wars in the Middle East. You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. When did Trump suggest that Iran
00:00:48.160 was even on his mind? Everybody, no nuclear weapons. You can't give nuclear weapons.
00:00:53.760 It'd be one thing if Trump had campaigned on stopping Iran's nuclear program.
00:00:59.160 Don't let Iran have nuclear weapons. That's my only thing I have to tell you today.
00:01:05.620 But for Trump to just voice this policy on us, completely out of the blue.
00:01:11.500 Including Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. That's all. They can't have nuclear weapons. It's
00:01:16.060 too destructive, too powerful. They can't have it. Without any warning.
00:01:21.740 I just don't want him to have a nuclear weapon. Well, it's a betrayal, wouldn't you say? What else
00:01:28.280 do you call it when you say one thing on the campaign trail? They cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:01:34.620 That was the only thing. The one thing I said you cannot have. And another thing when you get into
00:01:40.180 office. You can't let Iran have nuclear weapons.
00:01:45.840 Now, I don't want the US to get bogged down in another war in the Middle East. I think many of
00:01:50.580 the arguments regarding Iran are bogus, as I've said repeatedly on the show. But it also seems strange
00:01:56.900 to blame President Trump for betraying promises he never made to keep us out of a war he didn't launch.
00:02:02.900 You would think that after 10 years of fake crises regarding Trump, people would have learned by now
00:02:11.640 to take a few deep breaths when the latest panic drops. But no, panicans abound. I'm Michael Knowles.
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00:03:47.560 Promo code K-N-O-W-L-E-S. The war in Iran is heating up. There was a clip, this was a pretty
00:03:58.380 wild one, of Iran state television yesterday. So they got the lady in the, not quite a burqa,
00:04:05.880 what is that called? Is that a niqab? Whatever. It's not full burqa, but it's, you know, it's
00:04:09.580 a lot of, it's a lot of cloth. She's on Iran state TV. And as she's broadcasting live,
00:04:15.940 apparently a missile hit the studio.
00:04:28.520 Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
00:04:35.880 It just cuts to commercial. You couldn't have scripted that. I mean, that was straight out of
00:04:41.500 Hollywood. So this war, if you hadn't noticed already, is not, this is not like previous
00:04:50.020 Israeli or American actions against Iran. This is not just taking out a top Iranian general,
00:04:55.880 even like we saw from Trump in the first term. This is not just Israel, you know,
00:04:59.820 blown up some pagers or something. This war is clearly aimed at regime change. This is a full
00:05:07.760 scale war. And so right now I think you've got good cop, bad cop. The good cop is president Trump
00:05:13.800 saying, please mullah, mullahs, please Ayatollah, please make a deal to give up your nuclear program
00:05:21.120 and we'll let you live. And the Israeli bad cop is saying, nope, we're taking you all out. This is
00:05:26.680 not, we're going all the way now. You know, you got Trump on the one hand saying, I gave you 60 days
00:05:32.520 to make a deal. Day 61, we're letting the Israelis go in there. Please come. It's not too late. Please
00:05:38.560 make a deal. And then the bad cop is really saying, yeah, we're going to blow up your TV stations while
00:05:42.940 they're broadcasting. We are not joking. This is not merely saber rattling. And you've got people
00:05:49.640 scratching their heads because Trump having established this amazing coalition of people
00:05:55.000 who have disparate political views. Trump has every side scratching their heads because the hardest
00:06:02.920 war hawks in the country support Trump. Also, the most fervent doves and isolationists also support
00:06:11.540 Trump. It's this weird coalition. He's managed to do it. Just as on other issues, you've got the most
00:06:18.820 pro-tariff people in the country. You've got the biggest free traders, both supporting Trump.
00:06:23.840 You've got Jews supporting Trump. You've got Muslims supporting Trump. You have all sorts of
00:06:29.660 people. He's done a great job assembling a coalition that previous Republicans had not been able to
00:06:33.580 assemble. And now they're scratching their heads. Is Trump a dove? Is Trump a hawk? Is Trump an
00:06:39.000 isolationist? Is Trump a neocon? Is Trump a this? Is Trump? Trump is none of those things. Trump
00:06:44.720 is not particularly ideological, which I think is a good thing. As a conservative,
00:06:50.280 I try to eschew ideology. I think ideology is modern and lib and bad.
00:06:56.620 So when Trump is looking at the Iran issue, I don't think he's considering regime change and the
00:07:01.880 end of history and a community of liberal democracies spanning the entire globe. I don't
00:07:07.040 think he's saying that. I think he's thinking, as he said on the campaign trail forever,
00:07:10.100 we're not going to let Iran get a bomb. That's all he's thinking. He's thinking in a very practical,
00:07:15.660 prudential way. And ideologues who are today conveniently forgetting when Trump said for
00:07:23.180 many, many years, I think all of those clips I just played were only from the most recent
00:07:27.680 presidential campaign, but he's been saying it for a decade. He says, we're not going to let
00:07:30.840 Iran get a bomb. We're not going to let Iran get a bomb. We're not going to let Iran get a bomb.
00:07:33.760 So is it any surprise that Trump is going in using the military? That said, I don't think he has
00:07:40.760 the ideological vision of the neocons of the Bush II administration to say, we're going to remake
00:07:46.540 the entire Middle East. We're going to establish liberal democracy there. Because the question,
00:07:53.160 just as I've defended Trump on being open to being a little more aggressive in foreign policy,
00:08:00.380 if you want to be able to cut deals and negotiate, you need to have a credible threat of violence
00:08:06.660 there. That's speak softly and carry a big stick from Teddy Roosevelt, one of President Trump's
00:08:11.920 favorite Republicans. While I'm totally defending that as a tactic, we then have to ask for the
00:08:17.680 people who are clamoring for regime change. Well, okay, what comes next? What comes next? If you want
00:08:24.160 to go all the way, you want to throw out the Ayatollah. I don't like the Ayatollah. That guy's crazy.
00:08:27.900 You want to throw out the Mullahs. I don't care for the Mullahs. That's fine.
00:08:31.760 What comes next? This is always the question in these regime change wars in the Middle East.
00:08:36.100 Do you have a plan for what comes next? Because I don't want the United States occupying Iran for
00:08:40.800 the next 20 years. I certainly don't want that. What's the, is the plan we're going to bring back
00:08:45.720 the crown prince, Riza Pahlavi? Okay. Is that really going to work? Is that, okay, that's fine. We had a
00:08:50.900 good relationship with his dad, with the Shah. So, okay, I guess that's fine. I have no problem with
00:08:54.400 that. Is that going to work? Is that, is that really going to work? This is what I thought
00:08:58.000 when Bashar Assad was ousted. I said, look, you guys, everyone talks about how terrible Assad was.
00:09:02.860 I don't know that we got this like ISIS lunatic who just came in and took over Syria. Is that better?
00:09:08.300 What can, I'm open-minded. Just tell me what's the plan. That I think is what's on a lot of
00:09:14.940 Americans' minds. It's not that Americans have some love for, I think most Americans at least don't
00:09:20.020 have some love for the Ayatollah. It's not that most Americans are reflexively anti-Israel. Most
00:09:24.900 Americans are actually, are supportive of the state of Israel. But Americans have a totally
00:09:30.300 legitimate trepidation about interfering in the Middle East because of the experience of being
00:09:36.500 bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan for, for years and decades. So what's the plan? That's the
00:09:41.560 question for the, for the hardcore regime change hawks. What is the plan? Because there's a lot of war
00:09:48.020 propaganda. There's a lot of propaganda coming out of the Iranian side, which is backed up by Russia
00:09:53.420 and China and other people that we don't generally get along with. And there's, there's propaganda
00:09:58.880 coming out of our side and certainly out of the state of Israel. Bibi Netanyahu went on ABC News
00:10:03.300 yesterday and I, I felt overplayed his hand a little bit. It's Tel Aviv tomorrow. It's New York.
00:10:11.120 I look, I understand America first. I don't understand America dead. That's what these people want.
00:10:16.540 They chant death to America. So we're doing something that is in the service of mankind,
00:10:20.880 of humanity, and it's a battle of good against evil. America does, should, and does stand with
00:10:27.840 the good. That's what President Trump, Trump is doing. And I deeply appreciate his support.
00:10:33.120 Okay. All right. Laying it on a little thick, Bibi. Okay. I understand America first. I don't
00:10:40.740 understand America dead. America dead. America, that's it. If we don't go in now
00:10:46.260 and go all in on your regime change war in Iran, America is going to be dead.
00:10:52.320 What's your evidence for that? Well, Iran doesn't like America and is going to get a nuclear bomb.
00:10:58.440 First of all, we've been hearing Iran is on the cusp of a nuclear bomb for 45 years now.
00:11:02.440 And second of all, Iran is pursuing a nuclear bomb. There's no question about that. But even
00:11:07.240 Netanyahu himself has said it. Iran is not days or weeks away from a nuclear bomb. Iran is probably
00:11:11.580 a year away for a nuclear bomb or maybe more. But even beyond that, there are plenty of countries
00:11:17.340 who hate us who have nuclear bombs. Pakistan. Pakistan harbored Osama bin Laden for 10 years.
00:11:22.300 North Korea. Definitely saber rattles with the United States. North Korea is a nuclear bomb.
00:11:27.680 So I don't want a nuclear Iran. I want to take practical, prudent steps to stop Iran from having
00:11:32.140 a nuclear weapon, basically entirely with Trump on that part of the issue. But don't tell me,
00:11:39.360 come on, don't try to fool me, okay? Don't treat me like I'm a dummy. Iran poses an existential threat
00:11:47.320 to the state of Israel. I get why the state of Israel is going in. Iran does not pose an immediate
00:11:51.720 existential threat to the United States. It just doesn't. Iran wants regional dominance.
00:11:56.100 So there are plenty of strategic reasons why the US doesn't want that to happen or why Saudi Arabia
00:12:01.480 doesn't want that to happen or why even Qatar doesn't want that to happen or why Bahrain doesn't
00:12:05.400 want that to happen or why Turkey doesn't want that to happen. I get all that. Certainly why Israel
00:12:10.000 doesn't want that to happen. But in times of war, the propaganda comes on real, real thick.
00:12:19.640 And you're getting it from both sides in this war. So you're getting it certainly from the regime
00:12:24.620 change side. If we don't go in right now, the whole world is going to end because Iran has a
00:12:29.600 nuclear weapon. It's going to blow up the whole United States. Not quite. And then on the flip
00:12:35.000 side, if the United States, the global hegemon in any way flexes its muscle or in any way helps to
00:12:41.020 guide the affairs of the Middle East, then we're going to get bogged down in a forever war that goes
00:12:44.840 on for five centuries. Also not quite there. Also not quite there. And this is why it's not just
00:12:50.760 carrying water for the admin. This is why I have consistently supported President Trump since
00:12:56.120 2016. While many people were Johnny come lately or they supported him, they didn't support him,
00:13:01.700 then they did support him, then they didn't support him. You've seen a lot of that on the
00:13:04.160 American right. But one of my absolute favorite things about Trump as a political figure is that
00:13:10.360 he is not particularly ideological. And I think there's a deep philosophical basis for not being
00:13:15.440 all that ideological. Michael Oakeshaw, one of my favorite, more recent political philosophers,
00:13:19.480 has this line. He says, ideology is the formalized abridgment of the supposed substratum of rational
00:13:25.760 truth contained in the tradition. What a wordy, highfalutin academic definition of ideology,
00:13:31.900 but it's really good. It's the formalized abridgment of the supposed substratum of rational
00:13:38.960 truth contained in the tradition. You can't possibly sum up society in that kind of way. But that's how
00:13:44.300 the modern people all want to do. They want to have five bullet points on the back of a napkin. No.
00:13:47.700 Now, Trump is a little more based on his gut. Trump is a little more based on history than
00:13:52.680 ideology. Trump is very simple. We don't want to go remake the entire world. That way lies madness.
00:14:01.780 But we don't want our enemies to get nuclear weapons. So we're going to have a negotiated
00:14:07.660 approach. And I think that's what it is. There are ideologues who want full-on regime change
00:14:11.380 and want to sprout up Madisonian democracy in Persia. Probably not going to happen.
00:14:16.520 And there are some who want a good deal that protects the interests of the United States and
00:14:22.160 allows for stability in the region. That's different. Some people want revolution there.
00:14:28.120 Some people want stability. America is the global hegemon, the global empire. I think
00:14:31.680 it is in our interest to establish stability. And however we're going to get that done,
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00:15:58.680 Here's President Trump on the subject.
00:16:00.860 Have you heard any signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that Iran wishes to de-escalate
00:16:08.380 the conflict? Yeah. What have you heard? What have you heard from the Iranians?
00:16:13.180 They'd like to talk, but they should have done that before. I had 60 days and they had 60 days and
00:16:19.860 on the 61st day, I said, we don't have a deal. They have to make a deal. And it's painful for both
00:16:27.040 parties, but I'd say Iran is not winning this war and they should talk and they should talk
00:16:33.300 immediately before it's too late. This, for people who doubt Trump's dexterity when it comes
00:16:41.600 to negotiating, some people say, oh, it's all just a TV show. It was all based on that show,
00:16:44.940 The Apprentice. He's now really a great deal maker. I don't know. I think the past four or five
00:16:48.940 days would suggest otherwise. Trump is willing to carry through on threats to bring people to
00:16:55.760 the negotiating table. For some, for the real hardcore war hawks, the negotiations were always
00:17:04.440 just a pretext for regime change. That was always a facade covering up the true aims, which was
00:17:10.200 regime change. I don't think that's true of Trump. I think Trump really wants a deal.
00:17:14.000 And Trump is willing to kill people who are threatening security and America's interests
00:17:22.180 if they're not going to make a deal. This is what Trump said yesterday or two days ago.
00:17:26.680 He said, I want a deal. Iran couldn't get to a deal. Now all the people I was negotiating with
00:17:32.440 are dead. Is anyone else going to come make a deal with me? Because I'd like to make a deal.
00:17:36.960 I don't want more people to die, but I'm quite serious. As he was so consistent about for 10 years
00:17:43.340 now, I'm not going to let Iran get a bomb. Iran needs to prove to me that they're not going to
00:17:48.820 develop a bomb. They at least need to agree to it in principle. And if they're not going to,
00:17:52.560 I'm going to kill all of you. Because this is a priority for me, Donald Trump, and I'm the guy
00:17:57.420 who just got elected with the popular buff. So deal with it. Now, one last point on ideology and the
00:18:02.460 Iran conflict before we move on to the really important issues like Pride Night at Dodger Stadium.
00:18:07.440 I think ideologues on both sides of the Iran conflict are vastly overestimating the effect
00:18:17.060 of America's potential, even minor involvement in the conflict on Trump's approval ratings.
00:18:25.860 I know this is the least popular position among the political nerds and fanatics on Twitter,
00:18:30.220 but I'm right. Which is, there are people saying, if Donald Trump doesn't send in the entire US
00:18:38.560 military right now, this will destroy his legacy because he won't have stopped Iran's weapon and
00:18:44.040 whatever. He had the chance to overthrow the Mullahs. Yeah, okay, that's one side.
00:18:47.480 Then the other side says, if Donald Trump in any way is commander in chief, directs the US military
00:18:52.700 against America's enemies in the Middle East, if Donald Trump does that, he'll have destroyed the
00:18:57.900 whole MAGA coalition, he'll have betrayed every promise, every promise he ever made. Give me a
00:19:01.640 break. He can't get us involved in the Middle East. You know, this is the guy who dropped the
00:19:07.260 Moab in his first term, right? You know, this is the guy who took out Iran's top general in his first
00:19:11.760 term, right? You know, this is the guy that destroyed ISIS in his first term. You remember him?
00:19:16.600 This is the guy who campaigned on, I don't want to get us bogged down in the Middle East, but I'm not
00:19:20.080 going to let Iran have a bomb. And the Mullahs can keep ruling, but they can't cross America's red lines.
00:19:24.600 It's that guy. These ideologues on both sides continue to misunderstand Trump and MAGA because
00:19:34.400 they think that Trump and his movement, and it's his movement. It's not anyone else's movement.
00:19:39.360 It's not the movement of his strategists. It's not the movement of his staff. It's not the movement
00:19:43.560 of his pundits and activists and supporters. It's his movement. He did it. And everyone wants to claim
00:19:48.940 credit for it, but he did it. No one else. Trump is not some egghead political theorist. He's just
00:19:59.120 not that, which is a good thing. Now you're going to have ideologues on both sides say,
00:20:04.140 well, he needs to be more ideologically pure. No, he doesn't. Nerds, shut up. He doesn't.
00:20:10.740 The brilliance of the coalition, the only way he could assemble that coalition is by not being
00:20:16.580 ideologically pure. By being more practical and prudential, by recognizing that politics is the
00:20:22.140 art of inclusion, the art of the possible, the art of the second best, all the things that we've heard
00:20:26.880 from American politicians in recent years going all the way back to Clausewitz, okay?
00:20:34.940 He's able to assemble this coalition of people who have some practical interests in common through
00:20:40.640 appeals to important issues and through the magnetism of his own charisma.
00:20:47.180 He was able to do that. And that's what he's doing now. If you want to understand Trump's agenda,
00:20:52.580 focus less on nerdy political ideologies and theories and focus more on what he said on the
00:20:58.420 Joe Rogan show, which is that the guy weaves. He just kind of weaves. One day you think he's the
00:21:03.000 biggest hawk in the world. One day you think he's the biggest isolationist in the world. That's how he
00:21:06.700 operates, okay? If that's too much for you, go pick a cookie-cutter ideological candidate and lose
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00:22:35.480 issues. L.A. Dodgers just had pride night. Now, I'm not a huge Dodger fan. You know, I'm
00:22:44.080 a Yankee fan. And the Dodgers and the Yankees have had something of a rivalry going back many
00:22:48.620 decades now. In fact, my grandfather was at the World Series game where Don Larson pitched
00:22:52.400 the perfect game against the Dodgers, the only perfect game ever in World Series history.
00:22:55.560 Anyway, I wasn't surprised that the L.A. Dodgers had a pride night and they put the rainbow flag
00:23:02.140 on their hat. It's the L.A. symbol, but L.A. was in rainbow colors, not just the regular blue
00:23:09.860 and white. So, you know, not surprised. However, got to give credit to a Dodger here, Clayton
00:23:16.640 Kershaw. Kershaw wore the hat. Look, he's a member of the team. He's got to wear the hat.
00:23:24.340 If you're on a team, sometimes you've got to go along with the team and you've got to
00:23:29.280 follow the leader, even if that contradicts your own individual will. I know we're all
00:23:33.860 radical individualists these days and we're fair weather fans and we only go along with
00:23:37.820 the team so long as they agree with us on every single thing. But then the minute that
00:23:41.620 they in any way disagree, we all become radical individuals. Well, Kershaw, look, he's going
00:23:47.460 to go along with his team. But he had a little twist. He put on the gay hat, but then right
00:23:53.520 next to the rainbow, he wrote Genesis 9, 12 through 16. I love it. I love it so much.
00:24:02.780 That is, he said, I'll wear the rainbow, but I'm going to wear the rainbow to symbolize
00:24:08.020 its original meaning. The meaning that we have understood it to have for our whole civilization,
00:24:13.320 the meaning that it ought to reflect and that at a deep level, it does reflect. Namely,
00:24:19.280 that God will never again destroy the world in a flood. That's what in the book of Genesis,
00:24:23.220 that's what when God shows the rainbow, he said, that's what it's supposed to symbolize.
00:24:27.500 That God will never again destroy the world in a flood because the imagination of man's heart
00:24:30.640 is evil from his youth. Now, in modern days, the rainbow is supposed to symbolize
00:24:36.260 vice and self-indulgence. But Kershaw says, no, I'll wear the symbol, but I'm going to wear it to
00:24:52.100 mean what it really symbolizes. It's a great way to handle Pride Night. This is a time to really focus
00:24:59.160 in all of our political issues on how to balance competing goods. The goods of security on the one
00:25:09.500 hand, the goods of freedom and independence on the other. That's what we're dealing with in some
00:25:17.020 of these global conflicts, not just Iran, but also Ukraine and elsewhere. With Pride Night,
00:25:23.120 Kershaw has got to deal with the good of being part of the team, the strength of the team,
00:25:27.340 but also the good of the moral order, not violating the moral order, just to go along
00:25:33.800 with the mob, which would be lunacy. How do you do that? He found a way to do it. I love it. That's
00:25:38.220 very practical, very prudential. Probably the Dodgers, the LGBT gay stopo running the LA Dodgers,
00:25:45.940 they probably wish he hadn't worn the hat at all because it calls more attention to the inanity
00:25:50.820 and viciousness of the pride symbols. Can you just not? No, sorry. You asked me to wear the rainbow,
00:25:56.060 I'm wearing the rainbow. You know what it means? Goes back to the book of Genesis. Now let me tell
00:26:01.300 you about the book of Leviticus. No, no, don't tell us about the book of Leviticus, please. Oh yeah,
00:26:04.520 it's about chapter 18, you know that one. No, no, no, please. Speaking of June festivals,
00:26:10.440 the New York Times, I meant to get to this yesterday, but I have to get to it before we
00:26:14.660 moved too far past Father's Day. The New York Times celebrated Father's Day in the most
00:26:19.980 typical way, by running a column from some angry liberal woman attacking her father. I'm not going
00:26:28.420 to read you the whole thing, though it's a short little essay and it's worth reading because of
00:26:33.360 how awful it is. Here's just a little bit. This is how it opens. What my dad gave me,
00:26:39.820 my father gave me his freckly skin and I like him. I had melanoma and oh, and like him, not I like him,
00:26:50.280 she doesn't like him, and like him, I had melanoma. He gave me asthma and protruding elbows that are
00:26:54.600 identical to his. He gave me reddish hair that's kindly reluctant to go gray. He gave me an aversion
00:26:59.340 to drinking by not having one himself. I hate you, dad. You're such an alcoholic. I hate you. You're
00:27:05.400 drunk. He did not give me the seat next to him at the San Diego Chargers game. He had season tickets
00:27:10.500 when I was a kid, but I only found out about it years later. He didn't even take me to that game
00:27:13.300 that I didn't want to go to. He gave me the ability to talk to anyone because I couldn't stand the
00:27:17.280 awkward silences he provided. He gave me really nice houses to grow up in, but we moved a lot for
00:27:23.700 his work and things never seemed to be going well, so he gave me financial anxiety too. Yeah, I mean,
00:27:28.180 he provided me all the material things I needed and he worked really hard, but he's still a loser and he
00:27:33.680 wasn't that good at his job. Even though, I mean, he did well in his career, but he's a loser. He's
00:27:38.120 a complete loser. I hate him. And I had financial anxiety because we were rich, but not as rich as I
00:27:44.180 wanted to be. He gave me tools to withstand a sexist world. He would say, Hillary looks ugly in
00:27:49.320 her pantsuits and her voice. Women don't belong on the golf course. Just pause here. All true.
00:27:55.200 All true. Find me the lie in any of those statements. This was my exposure therapy. He gave it generously.
00:27:59.580 He didn't give me a response when I was little and watching a baseball game on TV with him.
00:28:05.340 Couldn't be bothered to explain my petulant, incessant questions.
00:28:09.820 That's what I took. These are the things I took from him. His Fox News when I set up his cable. Yeah,
00:28:14.820 my dad asked me to help him and I took away his favorite TV channel.
00:28:19.120 Goes on and on and on. And then you find out, this is a real killer, but halfway through the column,
00:28:24.940 you find out, her dad is still alive. It's not even like he's dead and she's attacking him. He's
00:28:31.540 still alive. And apparently really likes her and she goes on to it. She stuck him in a nursing home
00:28:37.680 and then she goes to visit him. And she says, she admits, like, he's always so grateful when I visit
00:28:42.020 him and it's so sweet and he really likes me, you know, but I hate him. And you look through
00:28:48.940 everything this guy supposedly did. And his great crime was being a hardworking
00:28:54.860 father who supported his family, but was like kind of conservative. I don't even mean like
00:29:01.020 conservative, conservative. Okay. I'm not, I'm not talking like radical, right? I don't,
00:29:05.220 the guy wasn't reading Giovanni Gentile essays. He watched Fox News and read the Wall Street Journal.
00:29:09.540 That's his great sin. And he didn't take his daughter to sports games that she almost certainly
00:29:16.180 did not want to go to. She admits later, she doesn't even have any love of sports. She was
00:29:20.060 just complaining that he didn't take her to a game she didn't want to go to. And he, what?
00:29:26.300 And he made a lot of money, but not as much as she wanted. And then she stuck him in a home.
00:29:35.320 But, and the whole point is that she's a good daughter for forgiving him for the crimes that
00:29:39.480 he didn't commit against her. All of liberalism, and I say this without exaggeration and probably
00:29:48.360 without exception, all of liberalism comes down to hating your dad. That's really what it's about.
00:29:55.660 It comes down to hating your dad at, at a physical, temporal level, like your literal dad,
00:30:02.760 like your, you know, your immediate biological dad, or at the extreme, but to hating God.
00:30:09.560 Your father. Because liberalism ultimately is a turn away from classical philosophy,
00:30:19.040 which says we're going to understand the world. And modern philosophy, as Marx says in the thesis
00:30:23.380 on Feuerbach, you know, modern philosophy is about changing the world, not about understanding the
00:30:27.760 world. It turns you away from obedience, recognizing hierarchies, and following, you know, being obedient
00:30:35.840 to hierarchy and order toward a radical leveling so that we can all do what we want. Turning away from
00:30:42.500 the family is the basic building block of society toward the individual is the building block of
00:30:46.480 society. And ultimately turning away from worshiping God and trying to serve him in this world and
00:30:52.500 trying to unite your will to the will of God so that there's no difference between what you want for
00:30:58.500 yourself and what God wants for you. Turning away from that, which is the basis of ethics and morality,
00:31:05.660 turning away from that toward a self-deification. It says that you are God. There's no gods,
00:31:11.020 there's no kings, there's no only men, and we can do whatever we want.
00:31:13.720 All of liberalism comes down to hating your dad. And that's true in the loftiest ways, you know,
00:31:19.980 the most abstract philosophical ways. And it's also true that people who write for the New York
00:31:24.260 Times hate their dads. Okay. And that's really sad. You really feel bad for this father who clearly
00:31:30.380 gave a lot to this ungrateful woman, this just witchy little woman. And then she decides to try to
00:31:37.880 humiliate him in the pages of the New York Times. The only good thing you can say for her father here
00:31:42.820 is at least no one reads the New York Times. At least he doesn't have to suffer that indignity.
00:31:48.920 And another great thing you can say about the father is he ostensibly doesn't read it either,
00:31:53.460 though he might because he clearly loves his daughter, even though she doesn't like him.
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00:32:23.880 My favorite comment yesterday is from the Drummer's Workshop, Norm's Music. It says,
00:32:27.540 most people don't get it. It's Jimmy Carter's fault. Yes. It's the thing. They think these issues
00:32:32.640 just come out of nowhere, especially these geopolitical issues, Ukraine, Russia war,
00:32:37.680 Taiwan, which they'll see, or the Iran issue. This Iran issue has been festering since 1979
00:32:44.160 when Jimmy Carter stupidly let our ally the Shaw fall. Same with the Panama Canal issue.
00:32:51.020 President Trump wants us to get back to Panama Canal. That was also Jimmy Carter's fault.
00:32:54.160 A lot of these issues, decades in the making because of the fecklessness of mostly liberal
00:32:59.740 politicians. All right. Speaking of paternal care, Justin Bieber might be placed in a conservatorship.
00:33:09.360 So do we have, yeah, here we go. This is according to The Sun, so you know it's true,
00:33:14.440 the entertainment editor there. Justin Bieber could be placed in a conservatorship by Haley
00:33:18.920 if she can prove three points to court amid his bizarre behavior. Okay, so I don't know. I haven't
00:33:27.380 followed this that closely because I don't follow celebrity gossip all that closely, but apparently
00:33:32.020 Justin Bieber has been looking a little rough lately and behaving in erratic ways, and so there's some
00:33:36.660 rumor that he might be placed in a conservatorship, like happened to Britney Spears, like happens to
00:33:41.560 many people who are in pop music and who become super rich and famous and they go off the rails.
00:33:47.760 At the time that Britney's conservatorship was dominating the news, there were people
00:33:52.500 who said, we need to free Britney. She's being controlled by her dad, who's the conservator,
00:33:58.860 and he's controlling her finances and even her freedom of movement, and we need to free Britney,
00:34:03.740 and that reflected a misunderstanding of what freedom is. But ultimately, Britney was freed,
00:34:09.620 and now she seems to be trapped in a prison of her own madness, and she posts videos dancing with
00:34:14.200 knives and behaving in an erratic way. Maybe the same thing will happen to Bieber here. This is totally
00:34:20.180 reflective of our politics right now. When you are sane, when you are sane and disciplined, freedom
00:34:28.960 is in your hands. When you are insane and self-indulgent, freedom needs to be in someone else's hands.
00:34:37.220 That's just how it works. And our founding fathers wrote about this in the framers of our constitution,
00:34:42.480 and they wrote about the nature of freedom, that when you are a disciplined person, when you subject
00:34:47.260 your appetites to your rational will, when you have practiced good habits, when you can be trusted
00:34:54.400 on your own. You know, character is what you do when you think no one's watching. When you are that
00:35:00.860 kind of person, then freedom is really in your hands, and you don't need a heavy government to enforce it,
00:35:08.860 and you don't even need particularly heavy civic institutions. However, when you're undisciplined,
00:35:17.640 when you're ignorant, when you're undisciplined, when you're given to vice, when you're addicted to
00:35:21.620 things, when you're self-indulgent, the way to make you free is actually not to place freedom in
00:35:29.780 your hands. The way to make you free is to place control of you in someone else's hands,
00:35:35.820 someone else who can encourage you to get your act together, and can teach you things, and can help
00:35:42.760 you to practice the habits of discipline that can perhaps one day allow you to have freedom in your
00:35:47.120 own hands again. But that's it. Because freedom, as we've mentioned on the show a lot before,
00:35:52.820 is not just neutrality and choosing. It is willing. It's how we will, and how we will stuff, you know,
00:36:00.540 I will that I'll drink this leftist-year's tumbler. I will that I'll light this delicious Michael
00:36:05.340 Knowles candle. I don't, you know, the willing is predicated on knowledge. So that's what freedom is.
00:36:12.320 In the pithy phrase of Lord Acton, it's to do what we ought, the right to do what we ought,
00:36:17.080 not the ability to choose, you know, what we wish. So you, Justin Bieber can be free in a sort of way,
00:36:25.680 if he's in a conservatorship, maybe. Britney Spears, when she was in a conservatorship,
00:36:28.820 was more free than she is today when she's out of the conservatorship. Because today she's
00:36:33.920 enslaved by all these vices and madness. That's it. It's not, there's no, there's no shortcut out
00:36:40.400 of that. Liberalism tries to find a shortcut to that. Liberalism tries to have its cake and eat it
00:36:43.860 too. Liberalism says, well, hold on, I don't want any external constraints, and I don't want any
00:36:47.560 internal constraints. And I'm just going to be totally self-indulgent. I'm going to make myself
00:36:51.180 a god, and I'm going to remake the whole world. And I'm going to go insane, ultimately. And I'm not
00:36:57.420 going to be free because I'm going to become a slave to all of these passions and vices that
00:37:00.280 are totally irrational. Sorry, no shortcut, man. Now, speaking of show business, Katy Perry
00:37:06.840 is attacking Trump on another issue that he's catching flag for, the deportations.
00:37:14.880 Because she says that illegal aliens are being hunted like criminals
00:37:18.300 in their ancestral home. Here I have her post.
00:37:25.680 Los Angeles has lived under three flags, Spain, Mexico, and the United States. That land has seen
00:37:31.600 borders shift, power change hands, and yet the people, especially the brown and indigenous people,
00:37:35.520 have always been there. Eh, I don't know about that. You know, we did deport, what, like a million
00:37:41.820 people or something during Operation Wetback in the 1950s. The people have moved around a little bit.
00:37:48.300 And then when the Spanish came and met the indigenous, that created, that actually created
00:37:52.460 a new kind of race of people, the Hispanics, Latinos. Just not, not fully indigenous, not fully
00:37:58.680 European, not, you know, you can't, you can't just take the one and not the other. Anyway, she goes on.
00:38:04.540 Indigenous people have always been there, planting roots, building lives, raising families. And now in
00:38:09.180 2025, the descendants of those same communities are being hunted like criminals in their own ancestral
00:38:14.240 home. Wow. Wow, man. This presumes a lot about ancestral homes. First of all, it means that
00:38:22.900 someone who is part indigenous and part white is truly indigenous and not at all white. And the
00:38:28.320 good guys are the indigenous and the bad guys are the white guys from Spain, which doesn't, but you're,
00:38:32.760 the people are actually both. Second, she acknowledges that borders of sovereignty, territory has changed
00:38:40.320 hands. But then she refuses to accept the political consequences of that. Third, she's playing a little
00:38:47.520 loose with the phrase ancestral home. You know what my ancestral home is? You might be tempted to say
00:38:53.600 merry old England. You might be tempted to say the Mezzogiorno, Sicily or Calabria. But no,
00:38:59.140 my ancestral home really is probably Iraq. Isn't it? Isn't that true of all of us? All of us
00:39:06.220 white people? Because it doesn't, don't we come from Mesopotamia, from the Levant? So what if I just
00:39:13.900 roll up to Iraq and I start demanding stuff? I say, hey, this is my ancestral home. Hey, get out of the
00:39:19.840 way, you guys wearing towels and stuff. Get out of here. This is my place. Plant the American flag there,
00:39:26.020 start lighting a Mayflower cigar. Maybe, maybe pour a nice glass of scotch. Hey, I know you modern
00:39:31.760 inhabitants don't believe in drinking scotch, but listen, this is my ancestral home. How would that
00:39:37.080 go? I don't think that would go very well. None of these arguments really mean much of anything
00:39:43.780 that you're hearing from the left, other than America always has to be bad. At the national level,
00:39:51.900 America always has to be bad. At the racial level, white people always have to be bad.
00:39:57.360 At the, I don't know, political, philosophical level, the native, truly native populations always
00:40:04.160 have to be bad. And the migrants and those always have to be good. That's just all it is. So it's,
00:40:09.640 what the left is advancing here is conclusions in search of arguments. And they'll change the
00:40:15.960 arguments depending on the day. Just like, I mean, you think about LGBT. The conclusion is we need
00:40:23.200 to upend traditional sexual morality. The argument used to be there are men and there are women and
00:40:28.820 some men like men and some women like women. And it's how you're born. You're born that way.
00:40:33.980 And that's just how it is. And your sexual orientation is immutable. And that's why we need
00:40:37.320 to upend traditional sexual morality. And then five seconds later, they said, also sexual orientation
00:40:43.440 is not immutable. Sex is not even immutable. There aren't really men and there aren't really women.
00:40:48.820 And some men might like men, but they also might like women or women might like men or the women
00:40:54.720 might become men and the men might become women. And anyway, none of the previous principles about
00:40:59.080 sex we told you were true, but the conclusion is we need to upend traditional sexual morality.
00:41:02.620 That's it. That's all the left plays with. Because for the left, politics is not a matter of
00:41:08.660 reasoned debate or progression from first principles in an orderly way. It's just people
00:41:14.560 clubbing each over the head with sticks. And so you're going to, they've come to their conclusion.
00:41:21.620 They made up their mind and they're going to find out any way to try to defend it. Okay.
00:41:27.240 Which brings us back, since we're talking about Iraq and unreasonable politics, this brings us back
00:41:31.320 to the Middle East. Trump seems quite offended by some of the debate going on on the right.
00:41:39.840 In fact, he's even going after Tucker, who's been a strong Trump defender. Actually,
00:41:46.980 like a lot of people on the right, Tucker has been very pro-Trump and he's spoken at Trump rallies.
00:41:51.820 He's also expressed a lot of skepticism of Trump or hostility, but that's true of a lot of people on
00:41:57.180 the right. That's not just Tucker. But now they seem to be at a tough point in their relationship.
00:42:00.840 Trump tweets out, somebody please explain to Kuki Tucker Carlson that, that Iran cannot have a
00:42:06.040 nuclear weapon. America first means many great things, including the fact that Iran cannot have
00:42:10.780 a nuclear weapon, make America great again. Trump wants to emphasize this point, which in his defense,
00:42:18.480 he made on the campaign trail all the time. And a lot of people just didn't want to hear it.
00:42:23.260 And I, I, I love Tucker and I like a lot of the figures, many of whom are skeptical of Trump right
00:42:28.900 now. And, uh, you know, I, I even recognize that as we're talking about prudence and practicality
00:42:34.260 in foreign policy, we need to be a little circumspect and we need to temper expectations
00:42:39.200 and we need to make sure that we know exactly what we're doing when we get involved in places
00:42:42.900 around the world. But all of that said, this is Trump's movement. He assembled the coalition.
00:42:50.140 He got elected. He won the popular vote. Doesn't mean we don't ask questions. Doesn't mean we don't
00:42:56.120 advocate certain sides, but I think it does mean that we should not be turning on Trump at the drop
00:43:01.160 of a hat as some people have been inclined to do for 10 years. All the walls are closing in. Now I'm
00:43:07.240 done with Trump. Now I regret all my support now, now, now. And the reason is not that we blindly
00:43:12.080 follow anyone. We don't put our trust in princes. It's just that I think Trump has a lot of credibility,
00:43:17.580 especially on foreign policy. Trump is probably the best foreign policy president of my lifetime.
00:43:23.320 George H.W. Bush, I was very little when George H.W. Bush was president. He was pretty good,
00:43:27.540 but Trump, Trump might be better. He's certainly better than Clinton and Bush too and Obama and
00:43:32.600 Biden. And so he's done very, very well on foreign policy. He's done very well on domestic policy for
00:43:38.480 that matter too. And I just think he's kind of earned the right to have, have his supporters at least
00:43:44.700 take a few breaths for a few days and just like let him cook a little bit and see how things shake
00:43:49.300 out. Because the things they're accusing him of right now have not actually come to pass.
00:43:54.360 So maybe we don't, let's not be like, you know, Wile E. Coyote here with the Roadrunner and constantly
00:43:59.560 falling into all of these traps, which many ideologues around the country are trying to lay
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