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In other news, racist Democrats' racism finally starts to bite them back, and then I call out Matt Walsh's globalism. Finally, the mailbag. Michael Knowles is a conservative commentator and host of the Daily Wire.
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My head is throbbing. I haven't felt this dehydrated since my bachelor party because
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it turns out that salty, delicious leftist tears are a diuretic, and I believe I overdid
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it a little bit yesterday. The left is very, very angry. They're tweeting all sorts of
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profanity at me, at other conservatives, Trump voters. They're hysterical. They're even more
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profane than usual because the new, slightly more originalist Supreme Court majority could
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deal a blow to the fake constitutional right to abortion. Well, to them I say, sticks and stones
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may break my bones, but we're going to overturn Roe v. Wade. We will analyze the probability of
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restoring constitutional governance. In other news, racist Democrats' racism finally starts to bite
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them back, and then I call out Matt Walsh's globalism. Finally, the mailbag. I'm Michael
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I can't, uh, I can't, I can't do it anymore with the Globes. I'm sick of the Globes. I can't,
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Okay. Matt Walsh is responsible for this. This is Matt Walsh's fault. Look, I'm not opposed to
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stupid schtick on my show. I actually love it. It makes up about three quarters of my show,
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but I'm sick of the Globes. I am not a globalist. Okay. The, the globalism is a false song and we're
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rid of it now because of this administration and president Trump. If you haven't seen the Matt
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Walsh show is responsible for the, just play the clip. And for good reason, because a globe,
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when you add a globe into the situation, it immediately makes everything classier and more
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professional and more intelligent. So even though I don't have a real studio or a real set,
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I do have the globe. And the point that I made was, well, yeah, the other guys at the Daily Wire,
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they've got a studio, they've got a set. They don't have a globe though, do they?
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So who really has the most professional show at the Daily Wire? That, that was, that was my argument
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anyway. But after the show, a lot of people informed me that actually Klavan does have a globe on his
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set. I never noticed it before, but I went back and I, and I watched and yeah, there is kind of off
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in the corner. It's not displayed prominently like my globe, but he does have a globe. So this is what
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I'm going to do. I didn't want to have to do this, but I'm going to add a second globe. And so now I have
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the most globes, both in terms of globe quantity and also total globage volume. And if it's really
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necessary for me to pull out the big guns and I, and I'm kind of hesitant here because I, I, I don't
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mean to show off, but if I really need to, um, I, I also have this and I could do the entire show
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with this globe as well. And what would look more professional or more intelligent than that?
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Okay. Um, but I won't, I won't yet unless it's really necessary.
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So look, like a usual, I'm watching the Matt Walsh show and I found this argument sort of
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convincing because I'll, I'll tune into the Matt Walsh show whenever I can't just talk to Paul
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Bois. I will, I will tune into his doppelganger, Matt Walsh, and I will hear exactly the same voice
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and the same, you know, points of view, but with more globes. So I thought this was kind of
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compelling. I mean, I've been into a lot of sort of pretentious, uh, homes and offices
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and they do, they have night globes and everything. So, but then I, there was something about the
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globes that I didn't want to be outdone. You know, I added the globes to my set. There's
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something I didn't like about them. I realized what it was. Do you know what this looks like?
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Yeah. Yeah. It looks like a soccer ball. That's what it looks like. And it reminded me that basically
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on this globe, every single place on here, except for, oh, we're, oh, except for right, uh, there,
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every place on that globe likes soccer, except for that nice little spot right there. You know,
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that hope of, uh, that, that beacon of freedom and hope for the entire world that protects everybody
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from chaos and death. That one right there doesn't like soccer. So I'm done with the globes. The false
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song of globalism is over. Matt Walsh can keep his globes. I'm done. Uh, we've got a lot to talk
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about today. Uh, we've got so much to talk about this, uh, replacement for justice Kennedy.
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We've got the New York times attacking the New York times, which is a beautiful thing,
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a lot to, uh, celebrate why the Democrats are finally reaping the rewards of the awful racism
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that they've sown for a long time. All of this is coming to a head in this Supreme court fight.
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We're going to see who should be on, who should be on the list. Who shouldn't be,
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who should get the nomination? Who shouldn't? A lot of people up for it right now. Uh, Mike Lee,
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the great Senator Mike Lee is up for it. Some conservatives are applauding that. I'm a little,
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I don't know if we should appoint a Senator. We will discuss all of that before we do that.
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We've got to make a little money, honey, but you think these globes are free. We got to pay
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we get to the court and the real decisions here over who's going to replace Justice Kennedy,
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I've, I've got to mention this, this, I, I almost, I had to double down on my hangover
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because, uh, now New York times editors are admitting that their paper is just pure garbage.
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So Jill Abramson, former editor of the New York times, she tweets out, she says, it kind
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of pisses me off that the New York times is still asking who is Ocasio Cortez. That was
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the socialist who won the, the Congress primary in Queens the other night when it should have
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covered her campaign. Missing her rise is akin to not seeing Trump's win coming in 2016,
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which by the way, is obviously a dig at the New York times because the New York times didn't
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see Trump's win coming. They didn't think it was even possible that Trump would win in
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2016. They're lashing out at this and it, it confirms something that we've been talking
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about for a long time. Jill Abramson is no conservative Republican, but far from it, but she's noticing
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the extreme drop in quality at the New York times. I think I said this yesterday, the New York
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times right now and occupy Democrats, Facebook page are basically of the same quality. I don't
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know the difference when it pops up in my newsfeed, a New York times headline or, or some radical
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left meme. I don't know which is which the New York times now is funding this cartoon series
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of like fat cartoons of Donald Trump looks like Ren and Stimpy making out with Vladimir Putin
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and really graphic visuals. In many ways, the occupy Democrats, Facebook page has better
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taste and more class than, than the New York times does these days. They're there. It isn't
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just conservatives pointing this out. And this isn't just the normal tug and pull of left and
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right. The left is finally recognizing that they themselves have hollowed out their institutions.
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So what the left does is it comes into institutions and it destroys them. We're seeing it at my dear
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old alma mater. Yale is like the prime example at the universities. The left goes into universities,
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destroys them. It did this to all of the mainstream media outlets. And even the New York times, it is
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recognizing that that happened to itself. It is a shadow of what it once was. It, it doesn't do,
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it doesn't serve its function in politics and society that it used to, but don't take my word
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for it. Take Jill Abramson's word for it. So now this will play in a little later with this court fight.
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Let's get to the court. The left is so angsty right now. Uh, they're so upset about, uh, Kennedy who is
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going to replace Kennedy. Uh, before we get into that, I do have to point out a little conspiracy
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theory of mine. I, it was one of the best memes that was going on around Twitter yesterday. So
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Mitch McConnell is key here, right? Mitch McConnell is the key. A couple nights ago, a group of
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protesters came up to Mitch McConnell and his wife, another administration official. And, uh, they
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started heckling him and yelling. And Mitch McConnell's wife, uh, told them, stop messing
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So the next day after a bunch of lefty protesters, uh, harass, uh,
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Mitch McConnell and his wife, the swing vote on the Supreme court retires and Trump is going
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to appoint an originalist. That cocaine Mitch baby that you don't mess with cocaine Mitch.
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That's where he got, you know, Don Blankenship was that guy. He was running sort of against
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Mitch McConnell. He was running this campaign against Senate leadership and against Mitch.
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He called him cocaine Mitch. And then when that guy lost, uh, Mitch put a picture of himself
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as Pablo Escobar. He said, thanks for playing this guy, man. Don't mess with Mitch McConnell.
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You know, I love this video of him kind of just sitting there and then, then he just slowly looks
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up and smiles just that, that little McConnell smile. And that's called a McConnelling. Now this
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is the sort of stuff don't mess with. I don't know if he like made a deal with the devil for his powers
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or something, but man, that guy seems to just control the universe with his finger.
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So Democrats are threatening all sorts of stuff. Now they're saying, we're going to, you know,
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you and this and you, and cause you remember Mitch McConnell is the reason that, uh, we got
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Neil Gorsuch. Mitch McConnell is the reason that, uh, Merrick Garland, Barack Obama's nominee to the
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court didn't make it onto the Supreme court. He said, Nope, we're not going to sit him. And so the
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Democrats are saying, we're going to do that to you and you're, and now you're going to see this and
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doing now, but you know what you can do Democrats? Nothing. You're totally, totally screwed.
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They can't do, they have nothing at their disposal right now to stop this nomination and Democrat.
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I I'm only rubbing their face in it because they have nobody to blame, but themselves.
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This was caused by Democrats in 2013 when Harry Reid invoked the nuclear option. So the nuclear option
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was saying you no longer need, uh, uh, more than a simple majority to confirm judicial nominees.
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And Mitch McConnell warned about this. He actually, there he is. Cocaine Mitch warned. He said,
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you are going to regret this. Here's Mitch McConnell. Once again, Senate Democrats are
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threatening to break the rules of the Senate, break the rules of the Senate in order to change the
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rules of the Senate and over what, over what, over a court that doesn't even have enough work to do.
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The majority leader promised. He promised over and over again that he wouldn't break the rules of the
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Senate in order to change them. If you want to play games, set yet another precedent that you'll no doubt
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come to regret. Say to my friends on the other side of the aisle, you'll regret this. And you may regret it
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a lot sooner than you think. Sitting there like Tony Soprano or something, you know, like I think
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you're going to regret this. Uh, if it was me, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it, Harry. I, I don't
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think. And so what they did, Harry Reid pushes the nuclear option and that, uh, made it such that you
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only need a simple majority to get through judicial nominees except for the Supreme court. This didn't
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include the Supreme court. But of course, at this point, after he's gone to the nuclear option,
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it's now up to Merrick Garland and Harry Reid no longer has control of the Senate. What is Mitch
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McConnell going to do? Mitch McConnell, now the leader of the Senate, he is a, he totally railroads,
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uh, Merrick Garland. He says, we're not going to do it. It's an election year and you can't make us do
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it. So now, uh, we've got this, uh, you know, we still have the majority in the Senate and I got to
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tell you something. They're saying it's going to be really hard to get Trump's nominee through
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because, uh, Susan Collins and other, uh, left wing Republicans, uh, are going to stop it. You
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know, liberal Republicans squishes. They don't want an originalist judge. I don't know about that.
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There are a lot of Democrats who are in States with a lot of Trump voters and Trump is very popular
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right now. And his policies are very, very popular right now. I'm not so sure that they'll be able to
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railroad him on a party line vote. What about Joe Manchin, Joe Manchin in West Virginia? Is he really
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reliable to, to not support, uh, Trump's nominee? Joe, Joe Manchin needs those Trump voters,
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Claire McCaskill in Missouri, uh, John Tester, Montana. They're in a really tough spot. So it's
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true. We've had a deal with Susan Collins and our squishes, but what about their guys? I don't know.
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Trump is very popular right now. There's a, by the way, he's like, we're talking about almost record
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levels of popularity. There's a new study out from Harvard caps and Harris. Trump's approval rating
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is at 47%. This is up two points, uh, from last month. So think about what's been happening in
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the last month. In the last month, the mainstream media shows pictures of babies crying. They're
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totally made up pictures, by the way, but you know, babies being ripped from their mother,
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uh, utter fiction. And they put it on the cover of the time magazine with Photoshop. And you know,
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there's, it's so awful. Isn't that terrible? And what happens to Trump's popularity? It ticks up
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two points. And that, by the way, that it's not like it went up with the Republicans a lot and down a
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little bit with the Democrats. It went up six points among Republican voters. It went up three
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points among Democrat voters, and it went up 10 points among Hispanics. So you would think this
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is the moment. Yeah, we're going to demagogue. Democrats are going to make this all about race
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and blah, blah, blah. It's going to kill them with the Hispanic vote. Uh, uh, it went up 10 points.
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So what are these guys going to do? These Senate Democrats, are they really going to say, no,
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no Trump. We're going to obstruct the whole way. Okay, good. Enjoy your reelection campaigns,
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guys. Good. Keep that up. That, that, that'll probably work. Uh, and this other, this poll
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also showed 59% of Americans approved Donald Trump's handling of North Korea and 75% approve
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the Kim meeting. Three quarters of Americans approve him meeting with Kim Jong-un. So, okay,
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guys, run against Trump, obstruct Donald Trump, be my guest, see how that works out for you.
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The left is furious about this position they're in, not just the retirement of Kennedy, not just
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that we're going to get another originalist on the court. They're furious because they can't do
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anything about it. Here's Chris Matthews. Well, I don't think we're looking at the most,
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the fresher history here of this five, four court. Of course, as John mentioned, John Meacham just
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mentioned, they were the ones who throw the election, threw the election, took it out of the
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hands of the, uh, the Supreme court down in Florida and gave it to a George W. Bush. And then of course
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they gave the gun people what they wanted in the Howard decision. Then they gave the money people
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the decision they wanted in the United citizens United. And then of course, just yesterday,
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they gave the anti-immigrant people what they, this, uh, this Supreme court, this five, four court
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has been pro Republican, pro gun, pro money and against immigration, anti-immigrant, anti-immigrant,
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if you will. And I think the Democrats, as I said a few moments ago, have to fight this tooth and
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nail. They have to use every process opportunity. They have to stop this until next year when we have a
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new Senate. We don't know where the next year's Senate will be Republican or Democratic dominated,
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dominated, but to give this to the Republicans when they control the Senate, basically 51 or 50 to 49,
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really with John McCain, perhaps not voting again, to give them this last chance to pack the court,
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five, four again, hard conservative. I, again, I say this, the base will attack the leadership for this
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if they allow it to happen. And they should, because this is time for vengeance for what happened two
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years ago. And if they don't wreak the vengeance now with four and a half weeks, four and a half months
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to go before the election, they will not look very strong to their base. And I think they'll be
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under attack. Vengeance. That's, that is the left wing agenda right now, because listen to how he
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talks. Well, first of all, it's very hard because he just kind of mumbles and makes up the immigrant
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people and the money people and the blah, blah, blah. No, the, this court has ruled in favor of the
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constitution. Usually it's ruled in favor of the constitution. It's, it's, it's ruled in favor of,
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of, of the gun advocates. Right. Because the constitution is a gun advocate. The constitution
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protects your individual right to keep and bear arms. It's ruled in favor of, of, you know,
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being able to donate money to political candidates. Right. Because the first amendment allows you to
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donate money to political candidates because you have free political speech. Yeah, of course. Duh,
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duh. But he, look, what they're, they're, as I said yesterday, they're kind of coming clean here,
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right? They're saying, yeah, we oppose the constitution. We oppose. They say, he says that the,
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the court is anti-immigrant. It's not anti-immigrant. It's pro-constitution. The
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constitution allows the legislature to legislate and the, the executive to execute, to execute those
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laws. So they're, but they're being honest. They're saying we're anti-constitution. You're
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right. The left base is anti-constitution, anti-American. And, and he says the base is going
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to be really angry if the Democrats don't try to shut this down. Yeah, they will. But you know,
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who's really unpopular in America right now? The Democrat base, the left, that far left base,
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which is holding the Democrat party hostage is very unpopular. So good. Do it. Put them on
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display. Put them all over TV. That's great. Can't wait to see in November. That'll be,
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that's a great idea. Uh, other, other Democrats are pretty upset about this too. Uh, U.S. rep
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Brendan Boyle said, quote, the GOP theft of a Supreme court seat by blocking Merrick Garland
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is possibly the single most consequential political act of this decade. The, it is,
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it is the most consequential political act, by the way. Uh, uh, it's not a theft, of course.
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We'll get to that in a second. But Mitch McConnell was asked about this. He said, uh, he said, you
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know, what in your career, Mitch McConnell's been in government since I think 1628, uh, in
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your career, what's, what's the most important thing you've ever done? He said, holding up the
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nomination of Merrick Garland is the most consequential act of my career. And that's absolutely
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true because it, we get, we got to give this guy credit for it. He, uh, uh, made it such that the
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conservative base was ready and raring to go to elect president Trump to deal, you know, maybe some
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people were skeptical of him. He didn't have much of a political record, but they went because it's,
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it's so, so mattered. Plus it gave us this court, which has given us wonderful pro constitution,
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pro American decisions, uh, decisions on free speech, religious liberty on life. I mean,
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really, really good stuff poised to be another one. You know, if the, if the conservatives who
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didn't want to vote for Trump had gotten their way, we'd have two justices right now. We'd have a
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six, three, uh, uh, left wing majority on the court. What would happen to your gun rights? Well,
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we know Hillary Clinton told us they'd go away. What would happen to your first amendment rights?
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Hillary Clinton told us they'd go away. The left, I mean, and by the way, the left isn't even hiding
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this anymore. Op-ed after op-ed, politician after politician saying we need to censor speech. This is a
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great win. And, uh, we got to thank, uh, Mitch for that, but to call it theft, they're saying he stole
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it. It was unfair. He stole it. It's theft. He, where, I wonder where Mitch McConnell got that idea
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from. I threatened you. I told you I would play this clip. Take it away. Joe Biden.
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It is my view that if a Supreme court justice resigns tomorrow or within the next several weeks
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or resigns at the end of the summer, president Bush should consider following the practice of a
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majority of his predecessors and not, and not name a nominee until after the November election is
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completed. Oh, that's awkward, isn't it? The once and future candidate, he's going to run again,
00:22:18.000
by the way, Joe Biden. He just, as someone asked me, say, are you going to run for president in 2020?
00:22:22.480
And he said, I really don't want to, I really don't want to. I've seen how terrible it is. I
00:22:27.180
don't, you don't want to, you've been running for president since the eighties. Of course you,
00:22:30.640
are you kidding me? That's the job you've held in your life is trying to be president. Oh, I don't
00:22:35.340
want to. That's what disingenuous politicians who have run for office, who have already run for
00:22:39.780
president multiple times. They say, I don't want to, of course you want to, you've just said you want
00:22:43.400
to, you've, you've wanted to for 30 years. Yeah. So, but it's a little awkward because that guy is the
00:22:48.700
one who created the premise for Mitch McConnell to hold up that nomination. Now, look, obviously
00:22:54.320
this is just politics. If you have the ability to stop that nomination, if you have the political
00:22:59.320
capital to do it and get your guy in, you're going to do that. That's just politics. Now the left is
00:23:05.580
trying to use this. They're trying to flip it right and say, oh, well, we've got an election coming up.
00:23:10.000
It's a midterm election. It's not a presidential election, but whatever. Oh yeah, we have a mid,
00:23:13.840
so, you know, Ezra Klein is saying it's hypocritical for Republicans to want this
00:23:17.940
nomination to go through before the election. Cory Booker is saying the same thing. He's saying,
00:23:23.580
come on, you've got to, you've got to do it. Yeah. Okay. That's a stretch. That is a real
00:23:27.540
stretch, fellas. I'm sorry. You know, the only way that this works, that the Joe Biden's speech or
00:23:33.480
Mitch McConnell, the way that they're able to hold up these nominations is if they have the political
00:23:37.700
capital to do it. If there's a Senate majority and they can stretch that political capital long
00:23:42.720
enough to get through the election, then they're going to do it. Democrats don't have that right
00:23:46.920
now. They don't have the majority in the house. They don't have the majority in the Senate. They're
00:23:50.240
not very popular. The president is very popular. It's not a presidential election. It's a midterm
00:23:54.460
election. Sorry, you lose. Too bad. The other aspect here, by the way, when you hear people
00:23:59.980
preening about this, because I've noticed sometimes the rank and file on the left are doing this too.
00:24:05.420
I think they're genuinely outraged because they're ignorant. So they say, what? McConnell did this
00:24:10.700
and we should do it, right? So I basically favor David Mayhew, the political scientist,
00:24:16.700
David Mayhew. I side with him here. This guy, one of the major accomplishments of his career that he
00:24:22.820
demonstrated is something very simple, but very profound, which is that members of Congress are
00:24:28.280
motivated basically solely by reelection. Every single decision that a member of Congress makes
00:24:34.520
is made with regard to how it affects his chances at reelection. That, that, you know, it, it basically
00:24:42.120
with a few exceptions, I'm actually friends with some people who have served in Congress and there
00:24:46.060
are exceptions that prove the rule, but the rule broadly is that the people who go there are
00:24:50.760
sociopaths. They're just sociopaths, uh, egotists trying to, uh, make sure that they stay in power.
00:24:57.520
Uh, Madison, James Madison wrote about this in Federalist 51, very clearly. He said,
00:25:02.640
ambition must be made to counteract ambition, meaning we're going to put all of the crazy
00:25:07.540
sociopaths who want to take over the country. We're going to put them in a room and have them
00:25:10.860
fight each other. And therefore their ambition is going to counter one another. That's what you see
00:25:15.640
here, but it is a total farce. I mean, it is naked politics and that's fine. They can preen all they
00:25:21.420
want. That's kind of the purpose of the Senate and the Congress as the Federalist lays out. But for
00:25:27.780
people who are like regular people in the world, you shouldn't fall for that. You shouldn't take that
00:25:32.240
seriously. It's naked politics and, uh, and the Democrats don't have it right now. They can't do
00:25:37.960
it. I suppose Joe Biden wanted them to hold it up in 92. Maybe they could have had the political
00:25:41.820
capital done. They don't have it now. And we did have it in the 2016 election. And thank goodness we
00:25:47.160
did because it preserved American liberty and it just knocked away a lot of nonsense that will give
00:25:52.180
us the opportunity possibly to, to maintain liberty in America, at least for a little while.
00:25:56.920
So the question on everybody's mind, it's the title today. The title today is just,
00:26:00.900
I took Roe v. Wade and I flipped it upside down. I overturned it. Hmm. Is, are we going to overturn
00:26:06.400
Roe v. Wade? The famous decision decades old now, 19, early 1970s, the, the decades old decision
00:26:14.140
that pretended that there's some constitutional right to abortion, which obviously there is not
00:26:19.400
there. Yeah. You know, I, uh, sometimes reference, I got to meet Scalia twice and he answered like
00:26:24.080
every legal question I've ever had. So I, I've, I've referenced this a lot, but that, you know,
00:26:29.660
if you want a law allowing abortion, that's fine. I mean, it's wrong and evil and immoral and you'll
00:26:35.460
probably burn in hell, but it, but I suppose it's as a matter of Republican politics, it's fine,
00:26:40.040
but you have to go and convince your fellow citizens, your neighbors to agree with you and
00:26:45.400
then you can pass a law and then you can have abortion. What's really wrong to do, the really
00:26:50.940
legally wrong thing to do is to pretend that it's in the constitution somewhere. Look in the
00:26:55.720
constitution and show me the right to abortion. Look in the constitution and show me the redefinition
00:27:00.400
of marriage to include, uh, but only include, uh, same sex unions in addition to, uh, traditional
00:27:06.400
unions to same sex monogamous unions of two people. Find me that in the constitution, but not
00:27:11.680
polygamous unions because that's not in there because they're just reading things. They're inventing
00:27:15.280
it in the constitution. Uh, there is no right to abortion in the constitution. Roe v. Wade is one
00:27:21.140
of the worst decisions, if not the worst decision ever made by the Supreme court. And the question
00:27:25.080
is now that we have the squish Kennedy gone, who's sort of conservative a lot of the time,
00:27:30.000
but crucially sometimes he's pretty, he sides with the left. Will we be able to overturn Roe v. Wade?
00:27:36.060
If there's an abortion case that comes up to the court, will we be able to overturn it? The question
00:27:41.060
is Roberts. Roberts clearly has an institutional view of the court. He's worried about the
00:27:46.120
institution of the Supreme court. If the people get too angry, they could just do away with it
00:27:50.080
someday. So he sided with the, the liberals on the, on Obamacare, for instance, when it was
00:27:56.820
obviously unconstitutional. Would he do that on Roe v. Wade? I don't know. I mean, he's a, he's a
00:28:01.600
conservative, but he does have that institutional view and it might, a wrong view of the institutional
00:28:08.100
view could lead him down the path of not wanting to overturn it. There is the question of story
00:28:12.180
decisis, the, the legal idea that precedent matters, you know, that if something was decided
00:28:17.420
a long time ago or has been reaffirmed, that you have to give that some credit, even, even if
00:28:23.220
perhaps it's on shaky legal grounds. Are we going to overturn, you know, I mean, I guess the question
00:28:31.740
on story decisis, we asked this to Scalia too, is how do you judge that? You know, I mean, uh,
00:28:38.320
justice Thomas, Clarence Thomas doesn't seem to care very much about story decisis in a way that
00:28:42.780
Scalia did. And, you know, without story decisis, you just have chaos, you know, very important
00:28:48.180
rulings could just be totally upended left and right. So you do have to have some view of the
00:28:52.360
tradition and of legal precedent. But we asked him, we said, what about Roe v. Wade? And he said,
00:28:56.860
you know, some decisions are so egregious that they have to be overturned, even if that upset
00:29:02.960
story decisis. And some come to mind, you know, the Dred Scott decision saying that, uh, that black
00:29:08.400
people can never be citizens in the United States. When I, you know, I actually sort of defend that
00:29:13.580
decision because it, not for the effect of it, but what it did was it showed the American, uh,
00:29:19.900
law to be as it was. It showed the absurdity of the question of, of racial basis for slavery.
00:29:25.200
And, uh, so it spurred, uh, a revision of that. Uh, what, but, you know, obviously on its face,
00:29:31.800
just, just awful consequences from that decision. How about, uh, uh, Plessy v. Ferguson, the, that
00:29:37.520
maintained separate but equal, but of course those separate things were not equal. Some cases are so
00:29:43.000
egregious that you have to flip them. And more than any, you could point to Roe v. Wade, which has
00:29:48.160
resulted in the deaths of millions and millions of babies. And we kill a million babies a year because of
00:29:53.640
Roe v. Wade. Now, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, that doesn't mean that abortion's illegal. It means
00:29:57.680
that states would decide. It means that, you know, the New York and California, if you want to keep
00:30:02.540
killing your babies, you pass a law. It doesn't, it doesn't say that there's a constitutional, uh,
00:30:08.620
protection against abortion, but it just says there's no constitutional right to abortion.
00:30:13.560
Uh, now another consideration is Susan Collins. Is she going to make us, uh, just get another Kennedy,
00:30:18.820
basically another squishy, non-originalist justice. Maybe, but as I said earlier, I'm not certain of
00:30:23.800
that. Uh, I, I am certain of this. Whoever is nominated by Donald Trump for the Supreme Court
00:30:30.340
needs to go into those hearings. And when asked about Roe v. Wade, which he will be countless times
00:30:36.260
say Roe v. Wade has defined the law of the land. It is the law of the land. It is Roe v. Wade is settled.
00:30:43.800
And that's all he should say about it. Because that's all true. It is settled. It was settled
00:30:48.500
40 years ago. Uh, it is true that it's defined the law of the land. All true. Until we overturn it.
00:30:56.720
And, and then it won't be settled. Well, it'll be unsettled. And then we'll have a new settlement.
00:31:00.480
Then we'll have a new law of the land. But that's all that that person should say.
00:31:03.920
Obviously, we don't want someone to get borked because they've got, they're pro-lifers or what,
00:31:08.280
you know, they went to Catholic mass one time, so they're clearly too pro-life or they've read
00:31:12.480
the constitution, right? Go in there. You say, uh, Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land.
00:31:19.500
And you get a little smirk in there. What was that smirks? Excuse me, uh, Judge Pryor. What
00:31:24.300
was that smirk? Oh, nothing. What, what smirk? What do you think about Roe v. Wade? Oh,
00:31:29.220
Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land. I saw that again. No, you didn't see anything.
00:31:34.740
That's what we need to do. So the question is, before we get to the mailbag now, uh, who,
00:31:38.760
who should we get? Who, there are good judges on the short list. I'm not going to pretend that I
00:31:43.360
know everything about all these judges at all. Um, but I will talk about the ones who are getting a
00:31:47.340
lot of, uh, discussion in the mainstream media. Mike Lee, terrific Senator, uh, very conservative,
00:31:53.520
one of the best members of the U S Senate, a terrific politician in America. I don't know that
00:31:58.520
he should go to the Supreme court. I don't know that he should. I don't know that in this
00:32:01.880
particularly polarized time, while conservatives are struggling to explain to Democrats that,
00:32:07.280
and to explain to the left broadly that the Supreme court is supposed to be nonpartisan,
00:32:11.560
that we favor originalists and textualists because they, uh, respect the letter of the law
00:32:17.600
of the constitution, regardless of our political preferences that we're not nominating conservatives
00:32:22.200
or Republicans. We're nominating originalists. And here is an example of a difference. A conservative
00:32:27.280
justice would say that abortion is illegal because we want to protect life. An originalist justice would
00:32:32.840
say there is no protection. There's no right to an abortion. Doesn't mean that abortion
00:32:37.100
is necessarily illegal then does it? There are laws against murder. You need a law against abortion.
00:32:41.700
That would be a difference between that kind of jurisprudence. Uh, as we're trying to convince
00:32:47.060
them of this difference, as we're trying to maintain the integrity of the court, I don't know that it
00:32:50.620
looks good to appoint a Senator, a conservative Republican Senator, not nothing against Mike Lee.
00:32:56.720
Mike Lee would be terrific on the court, but we haven't had a Senator, uh, serve on the Supreme
00:33:02.480
Court since 1971, since Hugo Black. And, uh, that was the last year that we had a Senator on the court.
00:33:08.580
And Hugo Black was terrible. I mean, he was a member of the Klan, Democrat, which is, that's, um,
00:33:13.720
I'm repeating myself, a New Dealer. Uh, he voted for some of the worst decisions.
00:33:19.240
Wickard v. Filburn, totally expanded federal power. As a Senator, he vehemently opposed
00:33:23.800
anti-lynching legislation. You know, just absolutely terrible. So I guess Mike Lee could be our,
00:33:28.400
our version of that. He's like the good version of a Senator on the court. But I just don't, in this
00:33:32.580
very partisan, uh, ideological moment, I don't know that we can do it. Uh, obviously Howard Taft,
00:33:38.420
William Howard Taft was, uh, both president and chief justice of the court. He was president first
00:33:43.480
and then until, uh, 20, or 1913. And then he was chief justice for the 1920s basically. Uh, so I
00:33:51.020
don't know. I'm, I'm a little dubious on putting a Senator on the court. The, the leading contender
00:33:55.020
right now is William Pryor from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Listen, Republican presidents
00:34:00.060
have gotten burned before by judicial nominees. I, we need someone who is, uh, who we know about,
00:34:05.720
who we know a lot about, and we can sort of rely on. Pryor is that sort of rock ribbed originalist,
00:34:10.560
I think, from everything I know about him. I also like that he's Catholic and I'll, and it's not just
00:34:15.200
my own Catholic bias coming out here. Catholics make great justices. Uh, uh, Scalia, Alito, uh,
00:34:23.400
Thomas converted to Catholicism, reverted to Catholicism. Uh, Gorsuch is a cradle Catholic.
00:34:31.500
I think now he goes to a Protestant church, an Episcopal church, twice the liturgy, half the
00:34:36.080
guilt, but still has that kind of Catholic upbringing. The reason Catholic, there are other
00:34:39.600
Catholics too. Uh, the reason that Catholics are good on the court is because it's a real
00:34:46.240
institution that looks at tradition and, you know, is a parses logic very, very tightly.
00:34:51.660
And Catholics are known for this. Catholics have been doing this for 2000 years. You know,
00:34:56.040
the Thomas Aquinas is a good example here. Longstanding institutions, seriousness, uh,
00:35:01.580
uh, you know, bringing, uh, ancient, uh, understandings of logic through into the modern
00:35:06.500
world. So they're very good at this. And I, so I do favor Catholics in that way. Plus Catholics like
00:35:10.840
to wear weird long robes and stuff and go into a kind of old building. So they're good at that.
00:35:15.400
Another one is being talked about is Amul Thapar. Uh, he is a little younger than Pryor. Pryor is
00:35:21.000
56. Thapar is under 50 and, uh, he's on the sixth circuit court of appeals. He's really tight with
00:35:26.860
Mitch McConnell who I've been extolling the virtues of the last couple of days. We know a little less
00:35:31.520
about him. So I don't know. He could be terrific. He could be great. He's not a Catholic, but I won't
00:35:36.220
hold it against him. I won't totally hold it against him. Mike Lee is not a Catholic either.
00:35:39.740
I won't hold it against him, but, uh, but I don't know. We know a little less about him. So I'm,
00:35:44.280
I'm a little worried because we've been burned before. Uh, we'll, we'll just have to see what happens,
00:35:48.740
but it would be terrific. The Democrats really shot down Pryor last time, uh, cause they said
00:35:53.760
he was too rock ribbed a constitutionalist. Would be really nice to drink up those tears if we got
00:35:59.500
him this time, wouldn't it? Now it'd be, I'd, I'd have to get like two ice packs next time.
00:36:04.140
Um, before we get to the mailbag, I know we're running out of time a little bit here
00:36:07.020
as we're talking about demographics, got to talk about that Democrat tribalism biting them.
00:36:11.560
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, uh, his, his campaigned on the slogan, basically women like me aren't supposed
00:36:18.120
to run for office. She was, you know, the socialist who won in Queens. And what was she
00:36:22.180
talking about? A left winger? I don't think she was talking about that. I think she's talking about
00:36:25.580
her race and her gender and her demographics or her, you know, sort of physical demographics.
00:36:30.800
She's 28 years old. She's Hispanic. And apparently this endows you with superpowers. Now, if you're a
00:36:36.420
Democrat, you know, just your sort of ethnicity, your race, your gender. We saw this with Sotomayor,
00:36:41.880
speaking of the court, when, uh, Sonia Sotomayor was nominated by Obama. She said,
00:36:46.300
you know, you need a wise Latina woman on the court as though, you know, that, so that, that,
00:36:51.380
that, you know, Antonin Scalia says you need someone who understands the constitution. And
00:36:54.980
Sotomayor says you need a wise Latina woman. Yeah. Okay. But what's great about this, we're seeing
00:36:59.000
this in a lot of races around the country, not just in Queens at the Catskills, uh, this guy,
00:37:03.660
Antonio Delgado, uh, who's this Harvard and Oxford grad. He's a black candidate. He beat out six white
00:37:09.780
Democrat candidates, uh, recently, uh, Maryland Democrats nominated, uh, Ben Jealous for governor,
00:37:15.580
a hundred 51 women so far in this cycle have won house Democrat primaries. That's twice as many as
00:37:22.440
at this point in 2016. What that's showing us is that they're really digging into this racial
00:37:28.120
and, uh, gender, uh, intersectionality. You know, we're going to, now look, some, some of these people
00:37:34.440
are, are good candidates. The, the Harvard Oxford guy is obviously, you know, uh, credentialed and
00:37:39.700
qualified, but the, I, it does seem that there's a real uptick in, in those considerations. And it
00:37:46.080
shows the end of, uh, I, I think in some ways the end of the Democrat party, because they're saying
00:37:51.380
we're going to privilege race and gender, uh, you know, people who aren't white men, we're going to
00:37:56.440
privilege that over, uh, other, you know, other characteristics such as ideology. You know, it
00:38:02.080
doesn't seem like that race in the Catskills doesn't look like ideology played much of a role in
00:38:05.940
that. You know, it's, it's, they're really digging into not the thought process, but just the, the
00:38:11.440
looks, the looks of things. We're in a time that has passed logic. We talked about after World War
00:38:16.360
One, this breakdown of logic and sense and art. And now we're in this just like grunting tribalism
00:38:21.760
and the Democrats are digging in more than anybody. It looks like it's going to bite them though,
00:38:24.940
because that's not a, that's not a serious and logical way to make decisions. You want to, uh,
00:38:30.140
you want to pick a candidate, not because of the color of their skin, but because of the content of
00:38:34.100
their character and their logic and their, their platform on what they're going to run on. So
00:38:38.080
we'll see. And I can't imagine it's going to help them. We got to get to the mailbag before I get to
00:38:42.120
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We've got about six minutes here at the end. So I'm going to try to get a lot of mailbag questions
00:39:37.280
in. First question from Paul, why does the Catholic church insist that only men can be priests?
00:39:44.620
It's because the thuribles are very heavy. They're very heavy. It's hard to pick them up. The smells
00:39:49.340
in the bells. You need a lot of muscles for that to work. Uh, there's some other, there's some other
00:39:54.260
reasons too. Uh, but this, this question actually does come up a lot. Why, uh, why can't women be
00:40:01.080
priests? I think you're looking at it backwards. First of all, priestesses have been common to a
00:40:05.940
lot of religions in antiquity and in the modern era of, you know, before, during, and after the
00:40:12.080
incarnation. It's not like this was unheard of and only, only we blessed moderns realize that women
00:40:17.460
can do things. That isn't what happened. Uh, but Judaism rejected that. And, uh, it seems that,
00:40:23.620
uh, Christ in establishing the church did not want women to be priests either. How do we know that?
00:40:28.920
Well, uh, if he did, uh, the Virgin Mary would have been an ideal candidate to be a priest, right?
00:40:35.660
At the sacrament of, uh, at the blessed sacrament at the Eucharist, she could have quite literally said,
00:40:40.440
this is my body. This is my blood, right? It comes from, from her, uh, Christ comes from her,
00:40:46.740
from her womb. But women and men have different roles in the church. Doesn't mean that women are
00:40:52.200
lesser. You'll remember who was the, who were the first people to spread the gospel of the
00:40:55.780
resurrection was women. Women realized that, uh, that Christ was resurrected. Uh, but are they given
00:41:03.000
a teaching function in the church? No, we know that from St. Paul's epistles, from first Corinthians,
00:41:07.220
from first Timothy, uh, they have different function. We have nuns, we have priests, we
00:41:10.940
have, you know, in, uh, and, and women teach in Catholic schools. It's not like they can't
00:41:15.620
teach ever, you know, uh, but in the church, there is a different role to them, uh, of the
00:41:20.320
apostles. The apostles are men. The apostles, there are plenty of female disciples of Jesus
00:41:25.000
who are very close to him. And the closest to Jesus is his mother, obviously a woman. Uh,
00:41:30.680
when, when, uh, Judas betrayed Christ and, and in acts, they, uh, the apostles elected a new,
00:41:36.580
uh, apostle, you know, which was just where we get apostolic succession from. It was men. And I
00:41:42.100
think there's a reason for that. If you ask the question, well, why can't women? I think you're
00:41:45.260
looking at it from different ways. You know, when you're a priest, you're serving the church and
00:41:49.580
you're serving the bridegroom of the church, Christ. It is a service. It's something you do.
00:41:54.540
It's not about the personal will and showing off and having a flashy title or something. It's about
00:41:59.260
service. And so if you're saying, well, I, I want that glory, you're, you're doing it wrong. In the
00:42:03.880
1970s, the, uh, the church of England started to ordain women priests. It was the beginning of the
00:42:08.640
end of the church of England. I don't know if anybody goes there anymore. It's like a husk of
00:42:12.200
a husk now, you know, and it was, there was a big split. There was a lot of Anglo Catholicism that
00:42:16.120
came out of that. Uh, the reason that women aren't priests in the church is that women aren't priests
00:42:21.260
in the church. And, uh, if someone is really enraged by this, it probably says more about you than
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about the church. And maybe you'll have to think where that rage comes from, from Alicia. Hi,
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Mikey. Hey, Alicia. I have enjoyed your comments on the Catholic church and practices on a spectrum
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of one to 10, one being guitar group, modern and 10 being Gregorian chant. What type of church do
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you prefer? Alicia 11 from Brandon, Michael, you're nearing your prophesied 200th episode.
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What steps have you taken to avoid your homeless dumpster living calamity? You're married now.
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Where will that poor woman live? You have to think about these things. It has been weighing
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on me. Uh, you know, I love, I love reading like Odysseus, uh, the Odyssey and the Iliad.
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Sometimes the fates really can conspire against you. The more you try to change your fate,
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the, the more you lead yourself into it. I'm working on it. It is true that 200th episode
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where I'm bearded and living in a dumpster, it is coming up. I'm, I'm sleeping with one
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eye open at night. I'm doing my bed. If you have any thoughts, please tweet them at me. I've had
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to avoid that, that terrible, terrible fate. Uh, from, we got a few more minutes from Corey.
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Dear sweet little old Michael, you said yesterday that the philosophical premise of owning your own
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body leads to modernism. Well, uh, I said that is part and parcel of modernism. That's actually
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the, the philosophical premises of modernism are what leads you to think ridiculous things like
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you have your own body. I'll continue with the question. Even with libertarians,
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how does this lead libertarians to asking for consent to change a diaper? Who owns your body?
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If not yourself, God, which one? There are several different interpretations of God at the daily
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wire. Can I just pick my favorite? It seems like a lottery ticket that is usually picked out for you
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by your parents, your cellmate or your favorite conservative commentator cough, clave and cough.
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Real nice buddy. Uh, these are genuine questions. No sarcasm. Corey, first question. Who owns your body?
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If not you, God, yes, God, you didn't make your body. You're not responsible for creating your body.
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You are not, you do not belong to yourself. It is just a total fiction and a fantasy to believe that
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you belong to yourself. You have a will, but your will is, has a telos. It has a purpose. There's a
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purpose for your life and you don't just get to make it out of nothing and pick it out of thin air.
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You can, but your life won't turn out very well. You, uh, you are, do not own yourself. That,
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this is why suicide is a sin because you don't own yourself. You didn't create yourself. You have no
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legitimate right to say, I own myself and I can do with myself as I please, including disregarding
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the moral order. As for which God to choose from, how do you choose which God? Very carefully,
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very carefully. That's how you choose which God. Uh, you say that there are many interpretations of
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versions of God at the daily wire. I don't think that's true. I suppose, uh, uh, Ben would disagree
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with Drew and I over the nature of the incarnation and the resurrection. Sure. That the second person
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of the Trinity, maybe the third person too. But, uh, if we were to describe God, the father,
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I don't know that we would describe him terribly differently. Would we? The, that the first person
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of the blessed Trinity, I don't know if we were to describe the moral order that comes out of
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God that, uh, I don't know that we would describe it terribly differently. Would we? A lot of
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people who want to justify atheism, they, they say, Oh, there are so many different versions of God.
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How can we know they're all people have different ideas? Not really, not really. I mean, there are
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certainly heresies that people spout, but I don't, uh, if you look at, uh, sort of the, the myths,
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the ancient myths and sort of the, the ancient conversations that are happening between pagans
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and between, uh, people who believe in God, I'm not so sure that there are different gods that come
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out. Even in, even in the polytheistic pagan religions, I'm not sure that an image of God
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isn't at least, uh, lightly manifested that you can sort of see through the fog. I don't really
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believe that. It's why moral systems around the world are so similar. Uh, you know, I, I've never
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heard a really a good argument for atheism. I've never heard a serious person give a serious argument
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for atheism because they don't really exist. So you might say, well, that's not clear. I want an answer.
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I want it to be so clear and obvious, which, uh, religion I should believe in and which God I
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should worship. All shallows are clear. You know, are you, can you do, um, I don't know,
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multivariable calculus? Are you really good at that? Or stochastic analysis or some sort of difficult,
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you know, higher end math? Are you really good at, are you perfect at that? No, probably not. You
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probably don't know very much about that beyond algebra if you're like the average American. So, uh,
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if you don't know about that, what, why on earth would you think that you can grasp the nature of
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God just, just cause, just cause. There's a great story about St. Augustine was trying to explain
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the, uh, Trinity. This is a legend that comes from St. Augustine, although who knows, maybe it
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happened. And he, he was really racking his brain and, uh, he was walking along the beach and he saw a
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little kid, uh, pouring water with a seashell into a hole. And he said to the kid, what are you doing?
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And he said, oh, I'm, uh, I'm going to pour the whole ocean into this hole. He said, that's great.
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You can't fit the whole ocean into that hole. And then the, uh, kid, uh, turns to him and he says,
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that's right. And you can't fit the, the mystery of the Trinity into that finite head of yours. And
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then all of a sudden, you know, the child is transfigured and disappears. Uh, I think it's a
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good, you know, it's a, it's a legend about St. Augustine, but it's a, it's a good story. You can't
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fit all of that into your head, but just because you have finite intelligence,
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just because you can't understand something doesn't mean that, uh, that it doesn't exist.
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Uh, you know, uh, most of the things in the world, none of us can't understand. We, we have such a,
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such a finite intelligence. Do we have time for one more? We got to go. We got to go. Okay. Sorry,
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folks. We had some really good questions to talk about. I will see you next week. We had some really
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good guests coming up. I don't want to spoil it right yet, but we've got a lot to talk about today.
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So, uh, we've got a lot to talk about next week with them. In the meantime, I hope that you guys
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can cure all of your leftist tears hangovers. Make sure you get the Tumblr. I'm Michael Knowles.
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This is the Michael Knowles Show. I'll see you Monday.