Ep. 1763 - The Pro-Queer Muslim Socialist Victory In New York EXPLAINED
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Zoran Mamdani is a Muslim socialist who just won the Democratic primary for mayor of New York City, and who will almost certainly be the city s next mayor. There are a million reasons that we will get into why he should not be mayor, and conservatives are attacking him for all the wrong reasons.
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The Muslim socialist who just won New York's Democrat mayoral primary and who will almost
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certainly be the city's next mayor is awful. He is one of the most repulsive candidates I have
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ever seen up for a prominent office. There are a million reasons that we will get into
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why he should not be mayor of New York. And conservatives are attacking him
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for all the wrong reasons. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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Zoran Mamdani. He has won the Democrat primary for mayor of New York. He beat out
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Andrew Cuomo. I guess Andrew Cuomo could run as an independent. You got the Republican
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Curtis Sliwa, who's a legend in New York, but probably not going to win. Then you've
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got Eric Adams, who is the current mayor of New York, who is a Democrat, but compared
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to the other Democrats in New York, he's like a far right-wing fascist, meaning he's at least
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semi, sometimes kind of reasonable. And he could run as an independent. And so it's a messy
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primary. But right now, Zoran Mamdani is far and away the favorite to be the next mayor
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of New York. And the conservatives have decided to focus on the fact that he's Muslim. They
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say he's Muslim. He's Shiite. He's not just Shiite. He's a 12-er Shiite, just like the Ayatollah
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of Iran. Sure. I guess, I guess that, is that kind of true? Doesn't seem totally true
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because of tweets like this. This one's been making the rounds the last 24 hours. From
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Zoran Kwame Mamdani, queer liberation means defund the police. Doesn't exactly sound like
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Saladin, does he? Not exactly Saeed Qutb. You think this is a Muslim radical? You think this
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is some jihadi? I don't think so. In many ways, it would be better if he were. In many ways,
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if this guy were a sincere 12-er Shiite Muslim radical, that would be an improvement over his
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actual beliefs. His actual beliefs, which are just kind of run-of-the-mill pinko-ism with a
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fascination for weird sex stuff. That's it. He's in many ways more assimilated than many right-wingers
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in America. He's assimilated to liberal culture in New York. Queer, what was it? Queer liberation
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means defund the police? Oh, man, that is bad. That is bad. This guy, Zoran Mamdani, strikes me as
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Muslim in the way that Joe Biden is Catholic, which is to say, he is that thing in as much as it is
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convenient for advancing liberalism. That's it. Same with Biden. I'm not trying to examine
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their own self-identity or the way they think about their relationship to religion. I'm looking
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at Biden. Biden flagrantly ignores non-negotiable aspects of the Catholic faith, ignores them,
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contradicts them, mocks them. But when it's convenient for him, he makes a big show about
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being a Catholic. Ignores Catholic teaching, violates important aspects of doctrine.
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But when it's helpful to advancing his true religion of liberalism, he puts on a good show.
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I think it's the same thing with Mamdani. Say what you will about the Ayatollah.
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Yeah. The guy's got nine lives. We almost took him out. He's still sticking around in Iran. Say a
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nasty fellow, nuclear program, death to America. But say what you will about him. He doesn't support
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queer liberation or defunding the police. I think he likes funding the police. And I think he looks
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with a great deal of opprobrium on LGBTism. That's not it. If you want to go after this guy,
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go after him for his real problems, which is that he's, what's the phrase that people use?
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A race communist, a gay race communist. He focuses on the LGBT stuff and the weird racial stuff.
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And most important of all, he focuses on class issues. Don't forget, the big issue in the
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campaign was affordability. And he didn't focus his whole campaign on transing the kids,
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though he wants to do that. He didn't focus his whole campaign on letting criminals out of prison,
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even though he wants to do that. He focuses his campaign on soaking the rich and freezing rents.
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And creating government-run grocery stores to drive down prices from private industry. That's what it
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is. In many ways, he's more of an old school leftist than a lot of the woke people. And that
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could present a challenge because wokeness is repulsive to most voters. Wokeness was taken out
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back like old yeller and shot in the head during the 2024 presidential election. I think wokeness is
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deader than disco. But left-wing populism might still have some life in it. And Mamdani is channeling
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that. And if conservatives miss the real ways to go after him and they pretend that he's Osama bin
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Laden or something, it's not going to work. And the guy's going to be mayor of New York.
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Now, Trump gets it. Trump, after I was writing that, I was just taking some notes for the show
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today. And I was looking at Zoran. I said, you know, this guy's, he's not, he's really not some,
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you know, jihadi. He's not, he's not the great imam. He's like a big, crazy leftist.
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Trump tweets this. He says, it's finally happened. The Democrats have crossed the line. Zoran Mamdani,
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a 100% communist lunatic, has just won the Dem primary and is on the way to becoming mayor.
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We've had radical lefties before, but this is getting a little ridiculous. He looks terrible.
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His voice is grating. He's not very smart. He's got AOC plus three, dummies all backing him.
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I think he means the squad, AOC plus three, dummies all backing him. And even our great Palestinian
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Senator crying, Chuck Schumer is groveling over him. Yes, this is a big moment in the history of
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our country. That's the way to go after him. Trump gets it. Trump is not afraid. He's not
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some squish. He's not afraid to go after Islam when it's appropriate. Trump was accused of the
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Muslim travel ban. Trump has made plenty of politically incorrect statements about Islam
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and radical Muslims. He just realizes this guy isn't a radical Muslim. In many ways,
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it'd be easier to talk to him and reason with him if he were a radical Muslim. At least there
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are some points of commonality. At least they believe in God, right? Does this guy believe
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in God? I don't know. I don't get the impression that he does necessarily. This is it. This is the
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way to, he's a communist lunatic. That's really what he is. And the pretense that he's a Wahhabist
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or something is silly. I get, we have this reflexive impulse to, and it comes really from the early
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2000s, but this reflexive impulse to oppose Sharia and radical Islam. You don't need to convince me,
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man. I'm well aware that Western civilization has been fighting expansive Islam for 1400 years.
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No need to convince me of that. But Zoran ain't setting up the caliphate. He's gonna set up
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bread lines. He's much closer to the secretary general of the communist party than he is to the
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caliph or the 12th imam. Now, there is a big winner in that primary. And I guess it's Zoran. Zoran's
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a big winner. But the biggest winner is not Zoran, certainly not the people of New York.
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The big winner in the New York City mayoral primary, not exactly Zoran, it's AOC. New York Post is
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reporting. This is a quote from Corbyn Trent, AOC's former spokesman, who is obviously still
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promoting her quite a lot. It says, it just continues to open more doors. It just broadens her horizons.
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You can always count on AOC being underestimated for sure. That's a given. AOC came out, endorsed this
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guy, went to the mat for this guy. You had other Democrats lining up behind Cuomo, and this guy won.
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The old school Democrat Party, the Bill Clinton wing of the Democrat Party, they lost. The AOC and the
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squad wing won. This means that AOC's prospects are rising. She's already being floated by her former
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spokesman here implicitly as a 2028 presidential candidate. And I think she would be a good 2028
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presidential candidate. I'm not even, I'm not trying to sigh up her into the nomination because
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she'd be easier to beat. I'm, I'm just, I'm just looking at it. If I were advising AOC right now,
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I would say you should seriously consider the 2028 run. She already floated that. She was prancing
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around the Midwest and she put out some commercial talking to the voters. I'm just a girl from the
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Bronx, but you know, I represent you and whatever. She clearly wants to run for president.
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But the question right now is, what is AOC's next step? Should she run for president or should
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she run against Chuck Schumer for his Senate seat in New York? She could do either. Her star is,
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is rising still. I think she should run for president rather than Senate. And the reason is,
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it'll be tough to beat Chuck Schumer. Even though Chuck Schumer has made all sorts of missteps and no
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one totally loves him. He's good. He shows up to everything in New York. I've been to multiple events
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in New York. I'm a Republican. I've been to multiple events that Chuck Schumer shows up to,
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even to support Republicans. He's just a good retail politician. He would be a very tough
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candidate to beat in New York. For the presidential race, it's wide open. Who's she got to beat?
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Gavin Newsom? Gavin Newsom's one of the big losers of that New York City mayoral primary.
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One of the big, big losers. Because Gavin Newsom, especially with his recent pivot to try to appear
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more moderate, to start his podcast, to try to be friends with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon.
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Gavin Newsom is the Bill Clinton wing, the Tony Blair wing, the, the, the nineties wing of the party.
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We're the, the Andy Cuomo wing. We're just, we're going to grow together. We're going to be,
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we're going to, we're going to reach across the aisle. We're going to be abundant. We're going to,
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yeah, no. Zoran runs. He's, we're going to soak the rich. We're going to eat them.
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We're going to eat up the millionaires. That's the AOC wing. He won. So who's,
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who's AOC got to beat right now? To, to be a leader in the Democrat primary,
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she's got to beat Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is weak. Who else does she have to beat?
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Pete Buttigieg? Give me a break. Kamala Dunn. Gretchen Whitmer, I guess, is, no.
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It's open. I'm not saying she would win. She's got some problems,
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but I think she'd have a better shot for president than for Senate. If I were advising her, I mean this,
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there's no, no trick up my sleeve. I'm just, if I were a Democrat operative, I'd say,
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tell her to run for president. Now, then you got to ask, all right, on paper, I see how she could
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win or I know chills up our spine, but does she have the goods? Yeah. I get in theory an AOC like
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candidate could maybe Zoran Mamdani could win, but could AOC herself go all the way? Well,
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here's her audition. This is her on camera responding to President Trump, responding to
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her calls for Trump to be impeached. He wanted to pick a fight with me.
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Let alone me. And he's going to lose that. So maybe don't send our country into war when the vast
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majority of Americans, Republican, Democrat, and independent don't want us randomly bombing
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countries because you're in some type of mood. They're not even briefing Congress. Congress was
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supposed to have a classified briefing today, and they canceled it last minute. It's giving
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scrambling. It's giving disorganized. It's giving, they are having problems behind the scenes.
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And by also not, um, by not even briefing Congress on a bipartisan basis, please understand that this
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is a, this is Trump's war. This is a Republican war. Um, I mean, I think war is bad, like just in
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general, but don't let them, you know, don't, don't let them. Okay. Not exactly a Rhodes Scholar,
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is she? That goes without saying, not the brightest bulb in the pack. Probably didn't
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get the highest SAT score. Probably didn't do the best on her, on her academic courses. However,
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she's got something. So first you have to ask, can a not very intelligent person become president?
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And in both parties, usually the people who become president are pretty smart.
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George, just go to the ones in my lifetime. George H.W. Bush, very, very intelligent man.
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Bill Clinton, very, very intelligent man. George W. Bush was mocked as an idiot, but he's quite an
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intelligent man. He, he downplayed his intelligence, but he's, he's pretty smart guy. Barack Obama,
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very intelligent guy. Relative. I'm not saying he's going to, you know, solve for Matt's last theorem,
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but he's, he's relative to politicians, a very intelligent guy. Smarter than your average legislator.
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Donald Trump, he also, people say he's dumb, obviously very, very intelligent guy.
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So could AOC do it? AOC is almost certainly not even close to as smart as any of those people that
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I just named. But I left out one president, and that would be Joe Biden. Joe Biden, not the sharpest
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tool in the shed, even before the senility. Never was the brightest, brightest bulb in the box. I
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don't know, whatever metaphor you want to use. Not, not super high IQ, one would imagine, but a very
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effective politician. Got elected to the Senate before he was constitutionally eligible to be in
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the Senate. Served there for almost half a century. Became VP. Got himself elected president,
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maybe, at age 150. Very talented politician. What did he have that those other guys did not? He had
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pathos. He could, he could simper. He could rub your back. He could, you could really feel Joe Biden.
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And AOC has that. AOC, she connects with people in a way that the rest of the squad cannot, in a way that
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really no other Democrat can, right now. She, she connects that weird, that face right up against
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the camera. And you, you connect with her. She makes you feel something. Whether she makes you
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feel anger, pity, nausea, whatever it is, you're feeling something. And she has another thing that
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Joe Biden had. And, and I guess continues to have, if he can still speak, which is she can code switch.
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She can speak to a lot of different groups. You notice there that, that phrase, the one that stuck
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right out to me is, um, it's giving disorganized. It's giving, it's giving. AOC is a millennial.
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She's older than me. It's giving is not millennial slang. It's giving is zoomer slang. A millennial
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would say, it's giving, if you were to use that phrase, you would say it's giving, and then a noun.
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So we would say, it's giving disorganized vibes. It's giving a bad juju. It's giving, you would,
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this is, it seems pedantic, but it's, it's actually crucial to the way that this woman communicates.
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She, we would, we, we would use a certain idiom. Zoomers, a younger generation than me or AOC
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uses phrase, it's giving followed by an adjective. So it's giving disorganized. It's giving sexy.
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It's giving, whatever. She's speaking like a zoomer. She can do that. Joe Biden had the ability
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to do that. He had the ability to, to switch, to use language in a way that, that was quite
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evocative, that, that had a lot of pathos. Didn't, his rhetoric didn't have a lot of logos,
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not a lot of logic there, not a lot of logic for AOC, not even a lot of ethos, not a, not a ton of
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credibility, especially not Joe Biden, or neither Joe Biden nor, nor AOC. I mean, they were both
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absolute infamous liars. Joe Biden lied about everything. I mean, every plagiarist lied about
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so much of his biography, lied about tragedies, lied about everything. And AOC, same thing,
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lies about her biography, lies about where she grew up, lies about all that stuff.
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But the one thing they, they have is pathos. I do not bookmark this. Do not underestimate AOC for
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president 2028. Right now, she is one of the leading candidates for the Democrats. Now, speaking
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of fights, we can finally, we get to a real important story. The liver king has been arrested
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for threatening Joe Rogan. Do you know who the liver king is? I kind of remember the liver king.
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Liver king is this guy. I think Brett introduced him to me. Brett, young, hip, cool zoomer introduced
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him to me. I didn't, I wasn't paying attention to who he was. He is this like beefcake guy who said
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that he got all of his muscles because he ate raw animal parts. I'm not even going to say meat
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because he'd eat things like testicles and all sorts of gross stuff. So that's what he said. He said
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he's lived this natural primordial lifestyle and that's how he got all his muscles. It later was
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reported that he was also using about $11,000 a month in anabolic steroids. But he became popular.
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Joe Rogan then called him out. It was like, this guy's obviously roided up and his career was
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destroyed. He later admitted to the steroids and now he's threatening Joe Biden or Joe Rogan rather
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Joe Rogan. I'm calling you out. My name's Liberty. Man to man. I'm picking a fight with you.
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Yeah. I have zero training as you did. So you're a black belt. You should dismantle me.
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But I'm picking a fight with you. You'll rule. Whenever you want me to weigh, I'll weigh it.
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I'll weigh it. I'll weigh 190 this morning. I'll come weigh it. I'll come to you. Whenever you're ready.
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So he got an animal skin on his head. Looks like he's in that Kanye music video.
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And he's got these two guns. He says, I'm ready for you, Joe Rogan, while shirtless. Now,
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that's a bit of a threat. He then went further and seemed like he was maybe following through
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on his threat. We'll get to that in one second. First, what happens when a battle-tester with Green
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Liver King threatens Joe Rogan, but then you think, okay, maybe it's just some idle, stupid
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threat on the internet. He then releases this video apparently on his way to go attack Joe
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Because Joe Rogan, we don't have to make videos to pretend anymore. All of this is happening. We're
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coming to you. I've challenged you man to man to a fight. Honorable. And we don't have to pretend or
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make any videos. The world is watching. They'll make the videos for us. And you don't have to hold
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the camera. You can hold the hand of somebody that you love because what happens next to you,
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you're going to need to remember that feeling. You're going to need something more than what you
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did to give you something to fight for. Because I have my family to fight for.
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That's, and I'll die for him. You know that. And you're a black belt, but you, you, you've never
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come across something like this. Willing to die, hoping that you'll choke me out. I pray to God
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because that's a dream come true. It feels good. And then the limbs, I'm fighting for my family.
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So limb, limb, limb, limb, limb, limb. Go ahead.
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Okay. So this guy is good at getting attention on the internet. So you say, well, maybe it's all
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just a big performance. Maybe he, he wanted to get arrested. Maybe I don't, but I don't know that
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he's that good an actor. I'm, I'm starting to think he's just really got a screw loose and he's
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been driven crazy by some combination of steroids and revenge. And that's the real key to it here.
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You know, vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, and I will repay that their foot shall
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slide in due time. Part of the reason that you, you, it's not a good idea to go out and seek
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revenge for personal slights is the, what's the old expression attributed to Confucius?
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He who seeks revenge should start by digging two graves. You just end up destroying yourself
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whenever you, and then there's, there's the even clearer biblical instruction. Vengeance is mine,
00:24:55.480
say it to the Lord, I will repay. This guy could have had it all. Maybe not all, all, but this guy
00:25:02.280
blew up. He was making a ton of money. I think he had some kind of supplement business and he was a
00:25:08.460
fraudster. So he was, he was going to get caught. He was a fraudster and he was exposed by Joe Rogan
00:25:14.700
in part. And at that point you say, okay, well, this guy, he messed up his body. He committed a
00:25:22.280
pretty serious sin of deceit and fraud, but I'm sure he's still got a bunch of money. He's still
00:25:28.260
got a platform. He could take the lump and do something for good, but it doesn't, it just didn't
00:25:34.420
work out that way. He instead, he tried to pivot. He ate more weird animal parts. He seemed to get
00:25:41.940
angry and spiral into his bitterness. And now he's arrested and now he's, he's got nothing.
00:25:49.480
It's not, there's so many, to me, the, the interesting part of the story is almost not the
00:25:53.640
liver king. It's just how vengeance works and how people, if you, we all do bad things. If you,
00:25:59.560
if you do something bad, if you just acknowledge it to yourself and to God, maybe confess your sins
00:26:03.940
to a priest and then just turn it around. There's, there's almost nothing so terrible you can do
00:26:09.120
that you can't be forgiven for it and just move on. There's, there is literally nothing other than
00:26:13.520
blaspheming the Holy Spirit. And on the other hand, if you refuse to change your mind, if you refuse to
00:26:21.780
admit you did something wrong, look yourself in the mirror and confess your sins and turn it around,
00:26:26.540
then there's almost no sin too slight to destroy your entire life. Not, not a good turn of events
00:26:35.520
fights for the liver king. Now, speaking of fights, you know, there's this reporting in the establishment
00:26:42.920
media that, okay, first the reporting was Trump is a weakling. He's going to let Iran get a nuclear
00:26:50.860
weapon. Then the reporting was Trump is a belligerent maniac and he's going to start world war three
00:26:56.000
because he won't let Iran get a nuclear weapon. Then the reporting was Trump is, uh, even though the,
00:27:03.580
the operation was successful, he's going to get a lot of Americans killed because he tried to stop
00:27:07.440
Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. And then when none of those things were true, the reporting became,
00:27:12.800
well, he probably didn't even stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Yeah. Well, he probably
00:27:16.820
didn't even destroy the, the bunkers. Well, yeah, he probably, it probably wasn't even that good.
00:27:22.060
Nevermind. Look away. So the CIA has just come out and they would never lie to you. No, in this case,
00:27:27.540
I think the CIA probably is, is being pretty straight. Uh, the CIA says this from the director,
00:27:32.480
John Ratcliffe, CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear
00:27:37.320
program has been severely damaged by the recent targeted strikes. This includes new intelligence
00:27:41.940
from an historically reliable and accurate source slash method that several key Iranian nuclear
00:27:46.020
facilities were destroyed and would have to be rebuilt over the course of years. CIA continues to
00:27:51.840
collect additional reliably sourced information to keep appropriate decision makers and oversight
00:27:56.520
bodies fully informed when possible. We will also provide updates and information to the American
00:28:00.500
public, blah, blah, blah. So the reason I think it's worth believing the CIA here is the reporting
00:28:08.600
that said that Trump didn't really do much to the Iranian nuclear program was ostensibly coming from
00:28:14.960
leaks from the military and the intelligence community. So then if the director of the CIA comes out and
00:28:20.680
says, Hey, hold on, look, we know, you know, you're, you're citing the IC here. You're citing the deep
00:28:25.680
state. Well, Hey, I am the deep state and I'm telling you these facilities were destroyed and
00:28:31.320
the Iranian nuclear program has been severely set back. Then it just blows up that bit of fake news
00:28:36.540
too. So add that one to the pile of the establishment media getting every single thing about this story
00:28:43.140
four weeks, completely wrong, but not to put a cherry on top of that Sunday, defense secretary,
00:28:50.320
Pete Hegseth addresses this directly at the Pentagon this morning.
00:28:55.180
I mean, specifically you, the press, specifically you, the press corps, because you cheer against Trump
00:29:03.180
so hard. It's like in your DNA and in your blood to cheer against Trump because you want him not to be
00:29:09.640
successful so bad. You have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes. You have to hope maybe they
00:29:17.060
weren't effective. Maybe the way the Trump administration is representative isn't true.
00:29:21.300
So let's take half truths, spun information, leaked information, and then spin it, spin it in every
00:29:30.160
way we can to try to cause doubt and manipulate the mind, the public mind over whether or not our brave
00:29:37.780
pilots were successful. How many stories have been written about how hard it is to, I don't know,
00:29:44.040
fly a plane for 36 hours? Has MSNBC done that story as Fox? There are so many aspects of what our brave men
00:29:52.780
and women did that, because of the hatred of this press corps, are undermined because people are trying
00:30:00.220
to leak and spin that it wasn't successful. It's irresponsible.
00:30:05.100
100 percent, 100 percent right. And notice here what Pete does. He's not just going after MSNBC and the
00:30:11.000
left-wing outlets. He goes, what about Fox? What about my old employer, Fox, the supposedly
00:30:15.600
conservative outlet? How come none of you guys are focusing on the parts of the story that really
00:30:20.380
matter? You're taking half-truths and non-truths and even the things that have a grain of truth in them,
00:30:25.500
you're spinning them beyond recognition into the land of the farcical. This is the liver king problem.
00:30:34.500
The American press has the liver king problem, which is they have never forgiven Trump for calling
00:30:44.240
out their deceit and their fraud. Trump, more effectively than any president, any politician
00:30:49.520
in my lifetime, pantsed the press. He didn't have to pants them because they were an emperor without
00:30:55.580
any clothes on. Goes out there and he says, you're a fraud, you're liars, you are fake news.
00:31:01.380
And that attack resonated because it was true. And then what the press could have done at that
00:31:09.380
point, it's amazing. Providentially follows the liver king story because she didn't even make this
00:31:15.280
connection when I was writing my show notes. But what happened was when the press were exposed and
00:31:23.040
humiliated by Trump, they could have looked in the mirror and said, okay, yeah, we've gotten a bit
00:31:28.780
corrupt. We've gotten things wrong. Yeah. Okay. Whatever. We're going to take our lumps. We're
00:31:33.180
going to turn it around. We're going to do a good job for the American people. We're going to report
00:31:35.940
the truth. We're going to talk about what matters. Okay. We're going to do that. And the press would
00:31:40.360
be looking great right now, but they couldn't do it, could they? They got caught in their fraud and
00:31:46.240
they just, they had to get revenge on Trump. They had to get revenge on the guy who exposed them.
00:31:53.120
And the problem with that is they still have not gotten Trump. And every time they try to get him,
00:31:59.340
it's like Wile E. Coyote with the roadrunner. They just keep humiliating themselves more and more.
00:32:07.660
Just the four or five narratives that we've had over the Iran story, one more ridiculous than the
00:32:14.600
next, contradicting each other every step of the way, but they have one common thread. They're all
00:32:18.600
just trying to get Trump and they can't because Trump is the roadrunner and he always beats Wile E.
00:32:23.820
Coyote. And Hegseth just has a field day spiking the football on their heads. That's it. Now,
00:32:33.300
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00:32:40.620
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president. I truly believe he will be highly regarded by historians, and I hope I'm around
00:33:57.820
to see that happen. I agree. Let me separate two things. I really like Trump. I bought the MAGA hat
00:34:05.560
in 2016. I voted for the guy for president three times. I like him. I'm a supporter.
00:34:12.640
Let's put that over here for a second. There are presidents that I don't like that I can admit
00:34:18.860
are consequential presidents looked on as formidable, if not magnanimous, by historians.
00:34:28.340
LBJ? I think LBJ was one of the great villains in the history of the United States.
00:34:33.000
But that man was a consequential president. That man matters to American history. Historians
00:34:39.160
certainly agree with that. I agree with that. I don't like the things he did, but I can acknowledge
00:34:44.920
that. FDR, extremely important consequential president, obviously. Did a lot of horrible
00:34:51.320
things. In many ways, ruined the country. But I think that in about 100 years, if America still
00:34:57.960
exists, Trump, without question, will be looked at as an extraordinarily consequential, talented,
00:35:06.120
great president, including by liberal historians, even if they hate him. If they're honest at all,
00:35:12.460
they're going to have to admit, man, this guy destroyed the Bush dynasty, destroyed the Clinton
00:35:18.800
dynasty, reordered the Republican Party, won the highest office in politics the first time he really
00:35:24.040
gave it a try, then got booted out of office because all the election rules changed, and then
00:35:29.840
managed to become only the second president in American history to be elected to a non-consecutive
00:35:34.180
second term, survived two impeachment attempts, survived at least two assassination attempts,
00:35:39.340
one of which came pretty close and blew off part of his ear, and managed to rewrite
00:35:44.580
a lot of domestic policy and a lot of foreign policy. Even if you hate his freaking guts,
00:35:52.240
how can you not say this is a consequential, great president, great in historical terms?
00:35:58.260
It's going to be hard. Even the liberal historians are going to have to admit it, I think.
00:36:01.440
Now, what does that man have to say about the Iranian nuclear program? Here he is at the NATO summit.
00:36:08.280
Because I don't think they'll ever do it again. I just don't think they're going to do it. I think
00:36:13.160
they're going to take their oil, they're going to have some missiles, and they'll have some defense.
00:36:18.720
I think they've had it. I mean, they just went through hell. I think they've had it. The last
00:36:24.020
thing they want to do is enrich. They've been trying to do it. By the way, it's hard to enrich.
00:36:29.360
And, you know, when you look at a site like that, very, very hard to build, very, very hard,
00:36:34.520
very expensive. They spent trillions of dollars trying to do this thing, and they didn't come up
00:36:39.320
with it. And we're actually getting along with them very well right now.
00:36:44.240
Okay, so he says his prediction is they're not going to try to get a nuclear weapon anymore.
00:36:49.060
I think a lot of people are going to roll their eyes at that and say, uh, yeah, really? The thing
00:36:53.120
they want more than anything in the world, they're going to stop pursuing that? Clearly, Trump is using
00:36:58.820
a rhetorical device whereby he is engaging ostensibly in description when he's really engaging in
00:37:05.360
prescription. That is to say, saying, well, here's what I think is going on. And when he says, here's
00:37:10.820
what I think, then he just is trying to persuade them to do something. He's trying to will his desires
00:37:16.120
into being. That said, he gives them some reasons. The way that that rhetorical trick works is you give
00:37:23.700
people reasons, and it makes them think, okay, actually, maybe he's got a point. Namely, he says,
00:37:27.580
look, you got a lot of oil, so you have plenty of energy. You don't need to pretend, oh, we need
00:37:32.940
nuclear energy for civilian purposes. Give me a break. You're Iran. You have enough oil. You'll be
00:37:37.900
fine. They have plenty of oil. They just got blown to smithereens. Implicit there is you almost got
00:37:45.260
your entire regime overthrown, and you almost had your capital city glassed. Trump threatened both of
00:37:52.300
those things. So he says, it was bad enough what just happened to you guys. You were humiliated.
00:37:58.040
You had years and years of work blown to smithereens and could have been a lot worse.
00:38:04.540
Let's not forget that. And by the way, that's all the stick. Here's the carrot. We're getting along
00:38:10.880
great now. And so they've been, it's very expensive. They've had a lot of problems with money. Maybe
00:38:16.180
implicit, maybe we'll ease up on some of those sanctions. If you play nice. Implicit is for
00:38:23.680
decades, you've had one foot in the international order, one foot out of the international order.
00:38:27.320
Maybe if you put both of those feet in the international order, maybe I'll hold off my
00:38:31.960
friends, the Israelis who have been trying to topple you. Maybe I'll let you continue to exist.
00:38:37.580
But you got to play. That's what I think. That's what I would do if I were them. That's what Trump is
00:38:41.640
saying. Is it going to work? I don't know. I'm kind of skeptical, but maybe, maybe. It's certainly
00:38:47.980
a good way to play it right now. And then if we got to go back in in five years, maybe we got to go
00:38:52.440
back in. Now, speaking of government programs, there's a great advertisement that's been airing
00:38:57.900
for a while now, though. It's just come to the attention of the media. This is from the Department
00:39:01.700
of Homeland Security. And it's an advertisement for, it's a commercial selling self-deportation.
00:39:09.600
I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump,
00:39:17.120
attempted illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded. And over 100,000
00:39:23.180
illegal aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, you're next. You will be fined nearly
00:39:29.620
$1,000 a day, imprisoned and deported. You will never return. But if you register using our CBP Home app
00:39:37.820
and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. Do what's right. Leave now. Under President
00:39:44.760
Trump, America's laws, border, and families will be protected. Okay, here it is, folks. We're arresting
00:39:53.040
all these people. It's a longer ad. I actually cut off part of it. We're deporting people left and right.
00:39:58.140
And if you deport yourself, maybe we'll let you come back legally at some point. This is the
00:40:06.800
brilliance of this ad. So the libs are furious about it. Here's The Atlantic reacting to that ad.
00:40:12.340
This is just yesterday. The self-deportation PSYOP. With a repurposed app and free teddy bears,
00:40:19.340
the Trump administration is pressuring migrants to leave PSYOP. I guess it's a psychological
00:40:25.040
operation. It's just, that's not really what I'd call it. I'd call it a carrot. This week has been
00:40:30.440
about sticks and carrots, hasn't it? The only way that both parties have ever thought about illegal
00:40:34.880
immigration is with the stick. We're just going to, other Republicans will say, we'll threaten you.
00:40:40.480
You need to leave right now. We're going to smack you with a stick. Or the Democrats will say,
00:40:44.860
hey, we're not going to hit you with the stick. That's it. But that's the only, but no one has
00:40:50.320
ever thought about the carrot, which is, hey, we'll incentivize you to leave. Not only threaten
00:40:57.140
you, but also incentivize you. And The Atlantic's furious about this because The Atlantic wants
00:41:00.560
millions and millions of foreign invaders to come into our country, violate all of our laws,
00:41:04.560
tax our resources, and change our demographics and give Democrats a permanent electoral majority.
00:41:09.240
That's what they're after. So they say, this is a self-deportation PSYOP. You're telling me,
00:41:13.820
you have a effectively free, peaceful way for illegal aliens to leave and for the law to be
00:41:23.400
enforced without a single cop putting on his uniform. This is the best way to enforce a basic
00:41:30.880
aspect of American law. And you say, oh, you're grumbling about it. It's a PSYOP. Why? Because
00:41:36.120
you don't want the law to be enforced. Okay. So forget about The Atlantic. I am once again,
00:41:40.420
forgetting about The Atlantic. I'd forgotten about it until a day or two ago. I'm forgetting
00:41:44.440
about it again. Why is this program so smart? Because it could be effective. That's why The
00:41:53.760
Atlantic is writing an article about it. That's why the libs are furious about this in the way
00:41:56.980
they have not been quite so furious about other immigration enforcement programs. They're furious
00:42:02.580
because it could be effective. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, a million illegal
00:42:06.640
aliens have self-deported already. Like this year. A million people. So it's been very,
00:42:13.580
very effective. The libs are frustrated that it's effective. And it's effective because
00:42:17.360
it understands basic human nature, basic incentives. It's got sticks and carrots. Very,
00:42:23.900
very smart policy. Now, speaking of Trump and incentives, this, we're saying a lot of very nice
00:42:31.900
things about our president. He deserves it. He's had a good week and he's done a very good job.
00:42:36.560
But this one, this maybe goes a little far. This is from a journalist at the NATO summit
00:42:47.540
This is from Sky News. Mark Rutter, the NATO chief, who is your friend, he called you daddy earlier.
00:42:56.180
Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?
00:43:01.640
No, he likes me. I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let you know. I'll come back and
00:43:05.840
I'll hit him hard. Okay. He did it very affectionately. Daddy, you're my daddy.
00:43:10.840
Do you regard your NATO allies, though, as kind of like children? And they're obviously listening to
00:43:15.280
you and they're spending more. And you're obviously appreciative of that. But do you hope
00:43:21.280
that actually they're going to be able to defend themselves, defend Europe on their own?
00:43:26.960
I think they need help a little bit at the beginning.
00:43:29.460
Trump is such a good showman that when she asks this question, he keeps a perfectly straight face.
00:43:35.780
Your NATO allies, your NATO allies, you're actually the chief of NATO, has called you
00:43:40.680
sweet, cute, lovely little daddy. Daddy, daddy, please lead me in battle, daddy. What do you have
00:43:49.820
to say about that? And Trump, completely straight face. And Rubio is not a TV star. He's not an
00:43:55.500
actor. And he just busts out laughing, of course. And what's notable about this exchange, Trump
00:44:02.280
handles it very well. He keeps a straight face. He lets the reporter get the joke in. It's a funny
00:44:06.600
bit. It goes viral. It's a flattering narrative to have out there anyway. So it's good. It's good
00:44:12.880
that it makes the rounds. And then he kind of brushes off the question. Oh, yeah, we get along great.
00:44:16.640
Like, oh, we get along great. We're good. NATO has problems. Whatever. You know, he just does
00:44:20.060
the Trump thing. But what's notable about this story for the political order is, do you remember
00:44:26.840
where the Trump is daddy meme first came from? A lot of people attribute it to Tucker Carlson
00:44:31.500
in this past campaign. Tucker gave some speech on the campaign. It's kind of like, uh, daddy's back.
00:44:38.280
Um, okay. So finally, we've got daddy, uh, coming home. So it was good. It was a good
00:44:44.660
bit that Tucker did. But it wasn't Tucker who coined that phrase. Goes back further. Goes
00:44:51.080
back, as far as I can tell, the first person to do it was Milo. In 2015, 2016, Milo Yiannopoulos
00:44:56.840
called Trump daddy. And that was so extreme and crazy and wacky and fringe and weird at the
00:45:03.760
time. Now you have a Sky News journalist at the NATO summit. Straight face for most people
00:45:14.240
other than Rubio saying, Hey, uh, Mr. President, are you daddy? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. What
00:45:22.520
a shift, what a difference a decade makes. What, what a successful political movement
00:45:28.060
to, to shift culture and even the world order in this way. We're sitting here at NATO. Yes.
00:45:36.960
Yes, I am. Daddy. Next question. Yes. Okay. Today's theology Thursday. The rest of the show
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