The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1778 - French President SUES Candace For Calling His Wife A Dude

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00:00:30.980 French president sues Candace Owens over claims his wife is a man.

00:00:37.820 No, that is not a mad lib gone wrong.

00:00:41.120 That is yesterday's headline from CNN.

00:00:43.360 A foreign head of state is suing an American media figure for defamation,

00:00:49.880 for insisting that his wife is secretly a dude.

00:00:52.440 And the craziest part of the whole story is the French president is very likely going to lose.

00:01:01.140 But not for the reason that some of you think.

00:01:02.940 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:03.560 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:13.980 I also have to issue a correction.

00:03:17.140 I said previously, after I read that headline, I said that that's not a mad lib, but it literally

00:03:22.660 is a mad lib because President Macron is liberal.

00:03:26.040 And he's very mad because people are calling his wife a man. 0.94

00:03:29.360 You would be mad too if someone did that.

00:03:31.740 This lawsuit is fascinating.

00:03:34.120 It's a fascinating lawsuit because of when and where it's happening.

00:03:37.860 So I'm going to lay my cards on the table, all right?

00:03:40.620 And this is going to offend a lot of people.

00:03:42.600 It's going to irritate some of you.

00:03:44.520 I'm just going to tell you exactly on the substantive matter where I am coming from as

00:03:49.160 I analyze this lawsuit.

00:03:51.180 I am of the opinion, controversial though it may be, that the First Lady of France is

00:04:00.120 not, in fact, a man.

00:04:04.060 I think, I know opinions vary.

00:04:08.740 Listen, some of my friends hold different opinions.

00:04:11.060 I, however, believe that the First Lady of France is a woman. 0.97

00:04:17.240 And still, I am really skeptical that the Macrons are going to win this case.

00:04:24.500 And the reason for that is, everyone thinks the case hinges on whether or not Brigitte Macron

00:04:30.460 is a woman.

00:04:32.220 And it doesn't really hinge on that.

00:04:34.880 What the case hinges on is proving actual malice.

00:04:39.400 So, yeah, you got to, you got to say, okay, the claim is false and the claim caused harm.

00:04:45.760 There are damages.

00:04:46.980 But I think what it's going to hinge on is actual malice, which is a legal term, which

00:04:51.860 in this case would mean you'd have to prove that Candace knew that what she was saying

00:04:57.780 was not true and said it anyway, which I don't think anyone believes that.

00:05:02.020 I think, I think most people believe that Candace really believes what she's saying, even

00:05:05.580 if you disagree with it.

00:05:06.480 I think most people think she really believes it.

00:05:08.040 So, I put that one out the window.

00:05:11.220 That would be one way to prove actual malice.

00:05:13.140 Or that she's demonstrating a reckless disregard for the truth or falsehood of the claim.

00:05:21.440 A reckless disregard for whether or not it's true.

00:05:25.140 That it's totally preposterous.

00:05:27.060 She doesn't care whatsoever.

00:05:28.100 And I guess my question is, how do the Macrons prove actual malice, reckless disregard for

00:05:36.160 the truth, in a culture that says that transgenderism is normal and has been around forever?

00:05:44.480 Because that's the issue.

00:05:45.640 If you said in a normal culture, like five minutes ago before transgenderism was a popular

00:05:51.320 idea, if you made the claim that many decades ago, this person who looks very much like

00:05:58.380 a woman had a secret, very effective sex change surgery that no one knew about and it's

00:06:05.500 only coming to light now, most people would say, well, that's totally crazy and you have

00:06:10.640 a reckless disregard for the truth and it'd be probably pretty easy to prove defamation.

00:06:13.880 But today, the most powerful institutions say that that's totally plausible, don't they?

00:06:21.320 There are really two ways to come at this.

00:06:22.680 One is, you could say, well, it's not defamation because there are no damages.

00:06:27.080 Because there's no harm.

00:06:28.060 Because being transgender is totally awesome.

00:06:30.960 It's great.

00:06:31.700 I've been told for years now that being transgender is possible, one.

00:06:36.220 And two, really great.

00:06:38.260 So you could come at it that way and say, well, there's no damages.

00:06:40.720 But put that aside for a second.

00:06:41.880 I want to focus on the actual malice issue.

00:06:45.180 Because the problem is, our culture now says it is totally reasonable to wonder if an elderly 1.00

00:06:55.560 woman 50 years ago secretly got a sex change that was convincing and she was able to keep 1.00

00:07:02.540 it a secret.

00:07:03.080 It's so common.

00:07:03.780 Everyone does.

00:07:04.560 The transgenderism has been around forever, right? 0.76

00:07:08.020 That, to me, is the issue.

00:07:10.640 Because in this case, the reckless disregard for the truth comes from our popular culture.

00:07:18.880 It is all of our prominent institutions.

00:07:21.320 It is our prominent politicians.

00:07:23.100 It is our prominent business and entertainment leaders who insist that a man can be a woman

00:07:29.020 and a woman can be a man and transgenderism is just normal.

00:07:31.680 And what's the difference anyway?

00:07:32.700 And, oh, yeah, people get sex change surgeries all the time.

00:07:35.440 And you couldn't really tell.

00:07:36.880 There's no way you could tell.

00:07:38.320 When a man goes under the knife to look more like a woman, oh, he could fool you. 0.99

00:07:44.320 And that's been true for ages, going back to classical antiquity.

00:07:47.900 Then the question becomes, how do you prove that when someone wonders something like that, which most people think is not reasonable, how do you prove that that demonstrates a reckless disregard for the truth?

00:08:02.160 When your culture demands that you recklessly disregard the truth on this very matter, it's going to be very, very difficult to prove this.

00:08:17.300 So I'm not, I mean, you understand where I weigh in on the substantive issue.

00:08:20.000 And, you know, I'm not, I'm not persuaded because she's too petite is one of my issues. 0.82

00:08:24.380 And the voice, it's very hard to fake the voice.

00:08:28.460 The transvestite, the people who do the trans thing, they always have a weird voice. 1.00

00:08:33.080 So anyway, that's why I think she's a lady. 1.00

00:08:35.560 But I actually, I'm not, I don't mean to be glib about this or anything.

00:08:38.840 I do know of multiple people who think that she's a guy.

00:08:41.940 And there was, didn't this all start because some French journalists said that she was a guy and then, so they can be dragged to court.

00:08:50.000 But anyway, I just think it's going to be very difficult for the Macron's to prove it, especially in America, where there's a very, very high standard for defamation.

00:08:57.420 But in any case, it's a, it's a really funny headline.

00:09:01.660 It's a really funny, funny headline.

00:09:03.760 Who would have, 10 years ago, would you have expected this?

00:09:06.360 Just insert any head of state, any American media figure, and that claim.

00:09:12.180 That's very odd.

00:09:13.140 So anyway, I'm sure we'll be following it closely.

00:09:15.020 Not just because of personal relationships, but because this is now international news.

00:09:20.580 What a time that we live in.

00:09:22.420 Okay, speaking of men and women, big announcement from Uber.

00:09:27.960 Uber will allow women to avoid being paired with male drivers. 1.00

00:09:36.360 So they announced this.

00:09:37.800 It's going to be a new feature.

00:09:39.200 Female passengers are going to get a special privilege. 1.00

00:09:41.800 They're going to be allowed to toggle off male drivers so they don't need to be driven around by dudes, which is all fine and good.

00:09:48.300 But I have a more urgent question.

00:09:50.280 When can male Uber customers request not to have female drivers? 1.00

00:09:56.080 Is that in the works?

00:09:59.060 I'm just asking for anyone who might be interested.

00:10:01.940 And by the way, actually, before anyone accuses me of sexism, I want to, I'm going to lay my car.

00:10:07.900 I'm giving you a real insight into my personal, not only my personal views, but even my personal conversations.

00:10:14.300 It's not me.

00:10:15.100 When sweet little Elise and I go out and we have to call an Uber, it's not me who has the problem with the female drivers. 1.00

00:10:22.260 It's my bride.

00:10:25.020 It's my beloved, beautiful bride.

00:10:26.420 Yeah, she, when, because, because all stereotypes are true.

00:10:30.340 So when sweet little Elisa sees that it's a lady paired, Mac, can we cancel it, please?

00:10:38.220 Can we please, can I want to get a, because I like the female drivers. 1.00

00:10:43.260 They're nice, we chat.

00:10:44.740 It's okay.

00:10:45.340 But my bride points out they do tend to miss the exits a little bit more than the men do.

00:10:50.900 They don't, they don't drive, they're usually not the right speed.

00:10:55.340 It's either too slow or maybe it's too fast.

00:10:57.940 And they're not, stereotypes do not, they don't obtain with every individual of a given class.

00:11:07.180 But they do, they're stereotypes for a reason, okay.

00:11:10.260 And so, obviously, the reason that the women here are requesting to not have a male driver has nothing to do with the driving. 0.99

00:11:16.740 It's because men can be creepier with women than women can be with men. 0.82

00:11:22.460 And men are physically stronger than women. 0.57

00:11:25.020 So I get it.

00:11:26.420 I get why there's a distinction here.

00:11:27.920 But this does seem to show a little bit of a tension in our current political order.

00:11:33.480 Because it comes down to the issue of freedom of association.

00:11:35.940 When the Constitution was ratified, we had a country with broad freedom of association.

00:11:41.220 You could exclude people from your business, from your club, from any organization.

00:11:48.180 You could associate with whomever you pleased.

00:11:50.440 And then, over time, people complained that this was discriminatory, that this was foreclosing opportunities to people of different groups, be they racial or sexual or anything in between.

00:12:00.860 And so, with the passage, notably of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, we got rid of freedom of association.

00:12:06.540 We said, no, you actually don't have a right to exclude people from certain accommodations and certain organizations.

00:12:11.840 You don't have a right to do that.

00:12:12.800 You have to include people.

00:12:15.840 Except sometimes.

00:12:17.380 Except certain people get to exclude people.

00:12:20.020 So what we actually do, in a way, we still have freedom of association for certain groups, but not for other groups.

00:12:25.620 The African American society, on any university campus, practically speaking, gets to exclude white people and can only have black people. 0.90

00:12:37.040 But, of course, there's no such thing as the white society that doesn't let the black people in, or the Hispanic people, or any other people.

00:12:45.800 The women get to exclude men from their transactions. 1.00

00:12:49.260 The men don't get to exclude women.

00:12:50.640 When you go on Amazon, you can toggle little buttons to say, oh, I want to see black-owned businesses or women-owned businesses. 1.00

00:12:58.300 Not just Amazon.

00:12:59.100 You see this in a lot of services.

00:13:01.100 But, of course, you don't say, oh, I want a man-owned business.

00:13:03.500 You know, I want a white-owned business. 0.99

00:13:04.620 So the tension that we have, and this was a point that really came up in recent memory with Christopher Caldwell's excellent book, The Age of Entitlement.

00:13:12.720 We have a tension, a tension between two parallel constitutions, which is the U.S. Constitution, you know, we the people, in order to form a more perfect union, and the Constitution of the 1960s, the Civil Rights Act.

00:13:25.980 This is why every government department, basically every government office, has a civil rights division to enact this parallel constitution.

00:13:34.000 But here you're seeing the tension.

00:13:35.620 This is where the tension comes up.

00:13:36.900 The ladies can request the female drivers, but the men who want to get to their appointments on time and not miss the exit cannot request the male drivers. 0.80

00:13:46.980 Now, speaking of sexual relations, a horrifying story involving two men and a lady and a baby.

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00:15:28.540 This is a horrifying story.

00:15:30.300 It's just horrifying.

00:15:31.880 I'll give you the short version of it. 0.94

00:15:33.800 Two homosexuals hired a woman named Brittany Pearson to bear a child for them. 0.99

00:15:39.700 I guess the child was conceived through in vitro fertilization. 0.56

00:15:43.360 They bought some lady's egg, and then they hired this woman to bear the child. 0.99

00:15:47.420 But the woman, very sadly, was diagnosed with breast cancer.

00:15:50.940 While she's pregnant with this baby for order. 0.95

00:15:53.960 And so, the woman wants to receive treatment for breast cancer. 1.00

00:15:57.660 She can't receive the treatment while she is gestating the baby. 0.92

00:16:00.980 So, she delivers the baby early.

00:16:03.360 All very scary.

00:16:04.500 All very dangerous.

00:16:05.480 Now, there's good news here.

00:16:07.240 The woman delivers the baby at 25 weeks, which is very, very premature.

00:16:11.860 But, thanks to advances in medicine, babies can live at 25 weeks.

00:16:17.380 Babies can survive after 21 weeks, or maybe even a little bit less.

00:16:21.860 So, you say, okay, well, there was this horrible challenge, even with this bioethically dubious situation.

00:16:27.160 But, there was this horrible challenge.

00:16:28.320 And, okay, the woman can receive her cancer treatment, and the baby can survive.

00:16:32.620 Right?

00:16:32.800 That's a great ending to it.

00:16:33.940 Right? 1.00

00:16:34.500 Except it's not, because the homosexuals who purchased the baby decided to kill the baby. 0.99

00:16:40.240 So, the two fellas who hired the woman to gestate the baby, and bought the eggs, and did whatever they did. 0.94

00:16:47.140 They decided to intentionally withhold life-saving medical care from the baby who was delivered at 25 weeks.

00:16:55.620 They killed the kid they purchased.

00:16:58.200 Why?

00:16:59.340 Well, I don't know.

00:17:00.180 Because the baby was born premature, that can sometimes lead to health problems, longer-term health problems.

00:17:05.740 I don't know.

00:17:06.120 They wanted a baby to come out at 40 weeks.

00:17:08.420 They didn't want a baby at 25 weeks. 0.82

00:17:10.340 So, they killed their kid. 0.99

00:17:12.360 And, it is argued, they have every right to kill the kid, because they paid for it. 0.99

00:17:16.860 They ordered the kid. 0.99

00:17:17.940 They went to the baby store.

00:17:19.640 They got the eggs and the sperm, and they hired some unethical scientist to combine them.

00:17:25.580 And then, they paid some woman to gestate the baby. 1.00

00:17:29.220 And, you know, the customer's always right.

00:17:30.820 I mean, think about this in any other area of the market, in any other area of the economy.

00:17:35.780 If you're at a restaurant, and you have your meal, it's a nice meal, and then the waiter says,

00:17:40.640 Oh, did you save any room for dessert?

00:17:42.100 You say, Yes, I did.

00:17:43.460 I want the chocolate cake.

00:17:45.560 He says, Oh, very good choice, sir.

00:17:46.960 Very good.

00:17:47.240 And, he goes into the back, and he has the chef make the chocolate cake.

00:17:51.240 But, you know what?

00:17:52.640 The chef screwed up the chocolate cake.

00:17:54.680 He took the cake out a little too early, so it was a little too gooey.

00:17:57.860 It wasn't quite right.

00:17:59.960 I guess, you know, it comes out, starts cooling down.

00:18:01.900 You could put the chocolate cake back in the oven, but it's not going to be the same as if you did it just totally right the first time.

00:18:07.540 So, you know what the customer can do?

00:18:09.220 The customer can say, Get rid of that chocolate cake.

00:18:11.200 I want a new chocolate cake.

00:18:13.040 And, any restaurant worth its salt would say, Oh, of course.

00:18:16.360 You absolutely miss you.

00:18:17.820 I don't know why the waiter's French.

00:18:19.660 It's a French restaurant.

00:18:20.480 I've got France on the mind because of the macarons.

00:18:21.980 Of course, the chef would go there, and they'd throw out the cake.

00:18:25.480 Get you a new cake.

00:18:27.220 The problem is, a baby's not a piece of cake.

00:18:31.840 A baby is not food that you order at a restaurant.

00:18:34.720 A baby is not a handbag that you buy at a luxury store.

00:18:38.200 A baby's not a commodity.

00:18:40.560 A baby's a human being with rights to be treated as a proper subject.

00:18:46.000 But we, in order to advance, sometimes with the best of intentions, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, in order to advance a false conception of sex, a false conception of human nature, a false definition of marriage, we deny that the baby is a proper subject with rights.

00:19:07.140 We treat the baby like the handbag and the cake.

00:19:11.080 And so, it should come as no surprise that the customer gets to treat the baby as such.

00:19:18.260 This is horrifying.

00:19:19.880 These men should be arrested.

00:19:21.400 I mean, I guess it's not against the laws.

00:19:23.300 You can't retroactively change the law, but the law should be changed immediately, and men who do this should be arrested and left in prison for life or worse.

00:19:30.960 But this is the law as it stands now.

00:19:35.000 And what the revolutionaries, what the cultural and sexual revolutionaries will say is, well, look, this is just the cost of equal rights for LGBT.

00:19:43.320 This is just the cost of equality.

00:19:45.780 Yeah, sometimes you've got to crack a few eggs to make a cake. 1.00

00:19:49.040 Sometimes you've got to kill a few babies to allow homosexuals and other people with deviant sexual behaviors and ideologies to pretend that reality is other than it is. 1.00

00:19:59.420 Do you think this is worth it? 1.00

00:20:02.540 I don't think it's worth it.

00:20:04.360 This is really, really dark stuff.

00:20:08.660 We haven't even touched on how many human persons were created and discarded to get the baby into the woman's belly in the first place. 0.76

00:20:17.880 We haven't even touched on that.

00:20:19.000 We're just talking about the men who say, ah, yeah, didn't come out right.

00:20:23.260 Didn't come out quite right.

00:20:24.380 I actually wanted blonde hair.

00:20:26.160 This one came out with brown hair.

00:20:27.420 Can we scrap it and start again?

00:20:29.420 There's no difference between what these guys did in that situation.

00:20:35.220 A lot of people starting to take bioethics a little more seriously, including even the New York Times.

00:20:41.700 So this actually begins, even before we get to the New York Times reporting, this begins with health and human services.

00:20:49.380 Health and human services under Bobby Kennedy proves me right.

00:20:54.740 And this is what, you know, sometimes I don't hate to say I told you so.

00:20:58.140 In this instance, I actually do hate to say I told you so.

00:21:03.560 I've mentioned for months and I've caught some flack for it.

00:21:06.580 I said, you know, organ donation is a very dangerous thing.

00:21:11.000 And often it involves murdering people because brain death is fake.

00:21:17.300 It's not really death.

00:21:18.460 It's just a designation that people came up with in the 1960s to facilitate certain medical interventions and pulling the plug on certain people and organ donation.

00:21:29.620 But it's not really death.

00:21:31.540 And in the case of organ donation and brain death, what usually happens is that the actual immediate cause of the death of the patient is the retrieval and the removal of the organs.

00:21:42.040 That's what kills the patient.

00:21:43.320 Because the patient still has the signs of life before that happens.

00:21:48.220 Well, health and human services under Bobby Kennedy did a big study on this.

00:21:53.500 And what HHS found is not shocking to me, is not shocking to people who've thought seriously about this, but is going to be shocking to a lot of people, including the New York Times.

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00:23:01.100 HHS has found a systemic disregard for the sanctity of life in the organ transplant system.

00:23:11.880 It's so bad that even the New York Times is willing to admit it.

00:23:16.180 Here it is.

00:23:16.800 New York Times.

00:23:19.440 Doctors were preparing to remove their organs.

00:23:22.440 Then they woke up.

00:23:23.560 Subheader. 0.98

00:23:25.160 A federal investigation found a Kentucky nonprofit pushed hospital workers towards surgery despite signs of revival in patients.

00:23:36.060 What else did they find?

00:23:37.480 People across the United States have endured rushed or premature attempts to remove their organs.

00:23:43.860 Some were gasping, crying, or showing other signs of life.

00:23:48.520 This is the New York Times.

00:23:50.900 There are very few issues where I and the New York Times are in total agreement.

00:23:57.200 And when that happens, it's going to be very hard to deny that there is an issue here.

00:24:05.060 I hate to say I told you so here, but what this is about is what happens when you tell lies in order to achieve some greater good.

00:24:17.320 This is what happens when you cut little corners ethically, because you think, oh, it's not going to really matter, and it's going to make it a lot easier for us to, for instance, remove a patient who has very little hope of recovery from artificial life-sustaining technologies.

00:24:33.420 This is going to make it easier to save people who, who knows, maybe they need a liver or they need a heart.

00:24:39.320 And we have these patients who, they're not, they were in a bad car accident.

00:24:42.240 They're not really going to survive.

00:24:43.560 And so if instead of waiting until they die, we just, because when you die, you know, the organs start to die, and then we can't really use them.

00:24:50.680 What if we just take those organs like five seconds before they're really going to die?

00:24:55.840 That's the argument.

00:24:57.120 And they gussy it up in these other terms.

00:24:58.660 They say, well, the patient's brain dead.

00:25:01.140 They're not dead dead, but they're brain dead.

00:25:04.460 Even though in certain cases of brain death, patients have lived years or decades, actually, after, after brain activity is said to have stopped.

00:25:11.540 We're going through puberty, even in some cases we've talked about on the show before.

00:25:15.400 But what if we just, we're going to cut this little corner.

00:25:18.440 We're going to tell this little tiny white lie. 0.91

00:25:21.900 And look at all the good we can do.

00:25:23.560 We can save kids who have diseases.

00:25:26.900 We can save millions of dollars from our healthcare system.

00:25:30.380 Many, many, hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars from our healthcare system.

00:25:34.240 We can just cut that little corner.

00:25:36.900 And then what happens?

00:25:39.320 Eventually, the lies come to light.

00:25:40.680 And eventually, all the bad stuff comes to light.

00:25:43.640 And we find out that people are fighting for their lives while they are being killed by medical organizations harvesting their organs.

00:25:53.100 Can you imagine a more dystopian system and way to go?

00:25:59.160 Hard to do so.

00:26:01.020 This is great stuff.

00:26:01.760 I know that the Maha movement was all about taking dyes out of Froot Loops or whatever, and that's the big victory. 1.00

00:26:07.440 To me, this is a much bigger one.

00:26:09.220 You have Bobby Kennedy really living up to, in this case at least, his Catholic bona fides.

00:26:15.960 Kennedy has taken political positions that are in conflict with the Catholic faith.

00:26:19.980 But here, he always considered himself a Catholic.

00:26:21.940 He actually went for many years to the same church in suburban New York that my grandmother would go to.

00:26:26.520 She'd talk about seeing him there.

00:26:27.760 And here he's really living up to it.

00:26:29.420 Putting true pro-life principles first, at least on this issue.

00:26:33.240 Good stuff.

00:26:34.700 Don't cut corners on ethics.

00:26:36.500 Don't tell little white lies.

00:26:37.800 They're going to lead to lots of problems down the road.

00:26:40.100 Now, speaking of the liminal space between life and death, Colbert's public life on CBS is over.

00:26:48.100 It has been announced that his show is dead.

00:26:50.480 But it's still limping along.

00:26:52.160 It will limp along for some number of months before it is fully canceled.

00:26:56.280 John Stewart is apparently still on air, looking a little longer in the tooth.

00:27:01.940 But I guess he's still hosting The Daily Show, at least sometimes.

00:27:04.240 He's not taking the news of his former colleague's consolation very well.

00:27:08.620 He responded, as any really sharp, satirical, brilliant cultural voice would,

00:27:16.120 by screaming profanity for like 90 seconds. 1.00

00:27:19.180 Go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:23.020 Go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:28.140 Go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:30.140 Go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:31.580 Wait, wait, wait. 1.00

00:27:32.540 Bring it down, bring it down. 0.99

00:27:34.240 Let's bring it down.

00:27:35.980 A little bit quiet. 1.00

00:27:40.040 Just go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:42.640 Everybody! 1.00

00:27:45.980 Go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:46.940 Just go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:27:47.960 Just go f**k yourself! 1.00

00:28:14.520 I've ever thought that Jon Stewart seems really old. 1.00

00:28:17.840 I grew up, I watched a lot of John Stewart as a kid, even though he was a huge lib.

00:28:21.100 I was kind of libertarian, so there was some overlap. But he seems really old here.

00:28:27.420 The whole setup. See, the thing that's supposed to make it funny is he said the F word.

00:28:32.900 That's the joke. The joke is he's angry and said the F word. And here's the second part of the

00:28:39.600 joke. He is doing something really vulgar, and he is contrasting it with something that's supposed

00:28:45.920 to be really virtuous and holy. He's got a gospel choir, but he's saying the F word. They're all

00:28:50.760 saying the F word. Isn't that funny? It's not funny is the problem. It might have been funny 20 years

00:28:57.780 ago or 25 years ago, but it's not anymore because the culture's totally changed. And he was part of

00:29:03.320 that change. Decades ago, George Carlin could say the words you're not allowed to say on TV.

00:29:10.020 And that was really shocking and naughty because you really weren't allowed to say those words on TV.

00:29:13.720 Then, I remember this. I was around for this. I remember the two big shows on Comedy Central in the

00:29:20.580 late 90s and early 2000s were South Park and The Daily Show. The Daily Show, initially hosted by

00:29:24.960 Craig Kilbourne. Then Jon Stewart took it over and became a darling of the liberal press. And at the

00:29:30.320 same time, even on cable, you couldn't say a lot of naughty words. And then South Park came out and

00:29:34.700 said a ton of naughty words. But they still couldn't say certain words like S-H-I-T or the F word or other

00:29:40.300 words. And then over time, even those taboos, even those standards started to break down. And

00:29:44.700 they could say S-H-I-T. Then they could say basically anything. And in those days, it was so

00:29:50.900 shocking. In those days, if Jon Stewart came on TV or Jon Oliver or Colbert actually didn't really do

00:29:57.480 this as much, but the two of them, they'd come out and instead of writing a joke, they would just

00:30:03.500 read a headline and then read it again, but put the F word in it. And that was the substitute for a

00:30:10.400 joke. And they normalized that 25 years ago. And now they think that that's still really cool and

00:30:18.200 shocking, but it's not. So what would be subversive now is to be clean, to go clean. What was subversive

00:30:25.960 in the 90s was Dennis Leary singing I'm an A-hole or whatever, all those, Jon Stewart singing the F word,

00:30:30.700 but that isn't subversive anymore. And Colbert is not really funny anymore. He was funny on his

00:30:38.640 company central show at the time. He's not, he hasn't been funny in years. It's not culturally

00:30:45.180 subversive. It's not culturally popular. That's why it loses 40 million bucks a year. And that's why

00:30:53.100 he's getting canceled. He's getting canceled because that show lost an insane amount of money every

00:31:00.520 year. So when Jon Stewart says, go F yourself, who's he really saying it to? Is he saying it to

00:31:07.720 Donald Trump? Not really. Trump didn't get him fired. Is he saying it to the network?

00:31:12.900 Or now he's, he's saying it to you. That's what he said. He's saying it to you because you didn't

00:31:20.460 watch Colbert and you were supposed to watch Colbert because this was still supposed to be

00:31:23.680 funny and this was still supposed to be relevant, but it's not really anymore. So it's real. What's

00:31:28.800 he saying? F you to go F yourself. I don't know. Is he saying it to father time? It's some,

00:31:35.100 some combination of the audience and father time. Father time comes for us all.

00:31:39.120 Coming for the Colbert show and they're coming for, they're coming for you, Mr. Stewart.

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00:32:42.100 before I get to a delicious little clip of a Democrat admitting something Republicans have

00:32:49.040 been alleging for decades. Democrats have been denying it for decades. And now we got the proof.

00:32:53.000 We got the smoking gun from a sitting member of Congress. Before we get to that, my favorite

00:32:57.560 comment yesterday is from TL Catlett. I knew I knew I was going to get hit for this. Ozzy's music was

00:33:05.860 not satanic. I know. I know the argument. John Cornel O'Connor said the music was demonic.

00:33:16.540 Ozzy said, no, it's really, it's not. It's Christian actually. And Ozzy would wear a cross and he was called

00:33:23.300 the Prince of Darkness, but it was all kind of tongue in cheek and is deeply Christian. And I 0.85

00:33:27.920 knew all the Ozzy fans were going to, I know. But what I said was, I wasn't saying Ozzy's horrible

00:33:36.260 and he's a Satanist and he's burning in the pit of hell looking up at us right now. I said, what I said

00:33:41.900 was Ozzy seemed like a nice enough guy and he was a kind of lovable, eccentric, cultural figure.

00:33:47.500 But the stuff he was most known for was pretty bad and demonic. And I'm sure he felt a great

00:33:55.200 deal of shame for it. In fact, I know he did. All the drug stuff, all the crazy antics on the drugs

00:34:01.960 and the women and all of this, and the really famous incident, infamous incident where Ozzy

00:34:06.720 tried to murder his wife and not even just like in a normal way. He did it by saying, we have decided

00:34:12.180 in a reportedly totally calm way, we have decided that you must die. They strangled his wife and luckily 1.00

00:34:17.440 she hit a panic button and the cops arrested Ozzy. And he was asked about this. I said,

00:34:21.600 what do you have to say about that incident? He goes, well, it's not the proudest achievement

00:34:24.620 I've got. You know, it was kind of a funny answer. That was my point. What a pity, because he seems

00:34:28.740 like he's kind of a sweet guy. I hope I see Ozzy in heaven someday. But so much of what he's remembered

00:34:33.220 for is genuinely terrible stuff. We should all try to avoid that. That's what I said. That's what I

00:34:39.620 said. You can't, come on. Come on. Don't say I said something I didn't say. Okay. Speaking of bad liberal

00:34:46.860 arguments, we move from Jon Stewart to Representative Yvette Clark, who is admitting on camera,

00:34:54.480 the Democrats rely on illegal aliens to boost their numbers in Congress and get more power.

00:35:01.820 I'm from Brooklyn, New York. We have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these

00:35:09.600 migrants. And that, you know, when I hear colleagues talk about, you know, the doors of the

00:35:16.260 inn being closed, no room in the inn, I'm saying, you know, I need more people in my district,

00:35:23.100 but just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here.

00:35:31.120 I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. You catch that part?

00:35:38.260 Because, understand, the number of representatives that a state will have in Congress is not based on

00:35:47.860 the number of citizens in the state or the number of taxpayers or something. It's based on the number

00:35:51.680 of people in the state. So if you flood a state with a bunch of illegals, you're going to increase 0.98

00:35:57.100 their representation in Congress, which dramatically can shift the balance of power in the government.

00:36:02.200 And what Yvette is saying here is, yeah, I need those illegals to get our population numbers up. 1.00

00:36:09.280 You know, there are a lot of people leaving these blue states, going to the red states for better

00:36:12.960 taxes, better business environment, better schools, more normal lifestyle. And shoot, we got to make

00:36:19.220 up the difference here so that the blue states don't lose their representation. It doesn't matter if

00:36:23.540 the illegals vote or not. As long as they're there in blue counties, then the Democrats will get more 0.97

00:36:27.520 representation and we won't lose our power. I've said for years, as have many Republicans,

00:36:34.500 that the reason the Democrats open up the borders is because, well, one, the business community just

00:36:39.600 wants slave labor, but the Democrats want to get a permanent electoral majority. And then the libs, 0.78

00:36:44.920 all the fancy libs, they say, that's ridiculous. That's a conspiracy theory. That's a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.95

00:36:49.460 Well, here she is. You heard it from the horse's mouth. She's admitting it. She's a sitting

00:36:52.200 Democrat member of Congress. Don't ever let them tell you again that the Democrats are not pushing

00:36:58.320 open borders for purposes of giving them a permanent electoral majority. That's what it's about.

00:37:05.180 Now, speaking of migration, some good news here. You know, President Trump has that self-deportation

00:37:09.320 app. It's an app that says, hey, if you don't want to get Tom Holman's boot kicking down your door,

00:37:15.200 you can choose to deport yourself. And if you do it, we're going to geolocate you. Once we find out

00:37:21.040 you're back in your country of origin, we'll send you a thousand bucks, which is the most efficient 1.00

00:37:27.640 way and most humane way to deport people. We have 11 to 16 million illegal aliens in the country.

00:37:32.660 That's a conservative estimate. You're not going to get Tom Holman to personally chuck all of them

00:37:36.720 out of the country. It would be obscenely expensive and it would be practically impossible.

00:37:43.120 Plus a lot more than a thousand bucks to put an illegal through the whole process of deportation

00:37:48.260 and ship them down to Bukele's house of fun in El Salvador. So if they can do it themselves, 0.99

00:37:53.920 they handle all the costs of that. And then we give them a thousand bucks, we are getting off

00:37:58.260 cheap. And it shows the humanity of Trump's immigration policy because yeah, they're sticks.

00:38:03.800 They're the sticks that Tom Holman hit you with while he's kicking you across the Rio Grande,

00:38:07.700 but they're also carrots. We're also saying, look, we understand this is a complex problem,

00:38:12.760 mostly advanced by Democrats and the Chamber of Commerce. So we're going to,

00:38:16.540 I'm sorry that they rolled out the red carpet for you to break our laws. You got to leave,

00:38:20.160 but we'll give you a thousand bucks and not throw you in prison. How's that sound?

00:38:24.060 This is great. Because so far what we're finding out is that likely the app has saved millions

00:38:31.080 for taxpayers in the deportations. And also we know it's been used by tens of thousands of illegals.

00:38:37.300 So then you're going to say, well, tens of thousands of illegals compared to 16 million,

00:38:41.280 that's just not a lot of people. But you have to pair that study on the app with the illegals who are 0.99

00:38:46.520 not using the app, who are just self-deporting because they don't want to get a one-way ticket

00:38:50.540 from Mr. Holman. There was a Center for Immigration Studies survey that showed that 1 million illegal

00:38:56.120 aliens have self-deported since January. And the way we can know that is by looking at the labor

00:39:00.200 participation numbers. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Again, it's a huge uphill battle,

00:39:06.220 but given all the headwinds that Trump is facing, the immigration policy is actually going pretty well.

00:39:11.080 A lot of panicans, a lot of critics want to say he isn't deporting anyone. The numbers are actually

00:39:16.220 looking pretty good. Okay. Speaking of Trump issues, we get an Epstein update. So remember,

00:39:24.380 initially the Republicans said, we're going to release the Epstein files. And the Attorney General

00:39:28.800 Pam Bondi went on TV and said, I've got the Epstein list of clients on my desk. And she gave the binders

00:39:35.480 out to those social media influencers. I hear the files. And there was nothing new in the files.

00:39:38.940 And then she said, I got the list on my desk. And then she said, actually, there isn't a list

00:39:43.320 and you're not going to get anything else. And I pointed out, I said, look, you're never going to

00:39:48.480 really learn anything new about Epstein, but this is a big political problem for Trump because he

00:39:52.680 seems like he's not being forthright here. He's, I think, underestimated how much this issue matters

00:39:58.120 to a lot of his base because it's a symbol of corruption in the swamp. Not that Trump is implicated

00:40:02.400 in the files, really. Not that they're covering up for a cabal of pedos necessarily. 0.97

00:40:08.940 But that by not being more forthright on the files, you're creating a big issue that's not

00:40:15.900 going to go away overnight. So I said that Trump needs a better answer. He's not being served well

00:40:22.260 by this answer. And then what did Trump do? This is a brilliant idea. He said, okay, I'm directing

00:40:27.400 the Justice Department to go to the courts, to have the courts unseal the grand jury testimony

00:40:33.380 so you get a bunch of info on Epstein. And the reason this was brilliant is not that we're going

00:40:39.020 to get a list of, you know, here's a leather-bound version of the top 10 pedos on earth. Go get them.

00:40:45.300 It's not even really possible for that to come out of the files, but because it makes it an issue

00:40:50.900 for the judiciary. So what I predicted in the first place remains true. Either Epstein is who the

00:40:58.420 government says he is, in which case you know everything you're going to know, or Epstein is not

00:41:03.020 who the government says he is. He's who you think he is. He's a super spy. He's whatever.

00:41:08.620 In which case you already know everything you're going to know. But in no instance are you going

00:41:11.840 to get any serious, juicy stuff out of it. I hope we get some justice, but you're not going to get

00:41:18.020 a lot of transparency here. And that's exactly what's happened because the DOJ went to the courts

00:41:23.500 and said, give me the Epstein files. Give me the Epstein grand jury testimony. And the court said

00:41:28.360 no. The court said no. It would be imprudent to release that. You don't have the right to that

00:41:32.960 and we're not going to do it. Which is a win for the Trump administration. Because now it means people

00:41:39.120 can direct their ire to that branch of government, not to the executive branch, over an issue that

00:41:44.680 long predates Trump, that Trump doesn't want to deal with, that Trump doesn't really seem to have

00:41:48.720 much more they can do with it. It's okay. Go focus on the judiciary. That is a political win.

00:41:53.260 It's going to be unsatisfying for people who want the list. Whatever the list even is at this point.

00:41:57.520 The list of people who were accused. The list of people who went to the Epstein properties.

00:42:00.940 The list of people who are supposedly on video that the government says doesn't even exist.

00:42:05.400 Even though there was video, but now they say the video doesn't include people, but it does

00:42:09.660 include abused children. And the whole thing is a big mess. But from a political perspective,

00:42:16.560 now everyone's going to focus on the judiciary. Trump can get on talking about the

00:42:20.900 achievements that he wants to talk about. Now, speaking of longstanding presidential scandals,

00:42:28.160 this one is really bad. This one is almost as bad as the issue with the two guys buying the kid.

00:42:38.920 The Biden administration set up a hotline for migrant kids. The many migrant kids who were brought

00:42:47.540 across the border by criminal cartels with the welcoming of the Biden administration and the Obama

00:42:51.560 administration. The Biden admin set up this hotline so that the kids who were placed with sponsors in

00:42:58.520 other homes could report if there was any abuse. 65,000 calls went unanswered, which certainly just by the

00:43:12.740 numbers is a much bigger child abuse scandal, even, even than Epstein by orders of magnitude.

00:43:18.180 We don't have time to get to that right now. So we'll have to get to that tomorrow.

00:43:22.000 How's that, how's that for a horrifying cliffhanger? We don't have any member in segmentum today

00:43:25.600 because I'm out at the Napa conference. There's been a lot of travel. Poor sweet little Alisa

00:43:30.940 is at home like Steve Martin, just juggling a bunch of toddlers, plotting out ways to murder me.

00:43:36.400 I have been on the road. It's been a little crazy with the timing and giving speeches and all the rest of it.

00:43:40.400 So we will have, there will be more Membra Segmenta, that's the plural of Membrum Segmentum,

00:43:45.820 there will be more Membra Segmenta coming up, but not right now. Sorry. Save up all your good juicy

00:43:51.200 comments so that I can read them from the Chem Dillah Chem when I get back. I'm Michael Knowles,

00:43:54.700 this is the Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.

00:44:10.400 Thank you.

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