Ep. 1778 - French President SUES Candace For Calling His Wife A Dude
Summary
A foreign head of state is suing an American media figure for defamation for insisting that his wife is secretly a dude, and the craziest part of the whole story is that the French president is likely going to lose, but not for the reason you think.
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French president sues Candace Owens over claims his wife is a man.
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A foreign head of state is suing an American media figure for defamation,
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for insisting that his wife is secretly a dude.
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And the craziest part of the whole story is the French president is very likely going to lose.
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I said previously, after I read that headline, I said that that's not a mad lib, but it literally
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is a mad lib because President Macron is liberal.
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And he's very mad because people are calling his wife a man.
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It's a fascinating lawsuit because of when and where it's happening.
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So I'm going to lay my cards on the table, all right?
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I'm just going to tell you exactly on the substantive matter where I am coming from as
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I am of the opinion, controversial though it may be, that the First Lady of France is
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Listen, some of my friends hold different opinions.
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I, however, believe that the First Lady of France is a woman.
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And still, I am really skeptical that the Macrons are going to win this case.
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And the reason for that is, everyone thinks the case hinges on whether or not Brigitte Macron
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What the case hinges on is proving actual malice.
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So, yeah, you got to, you got to say, okay, the claim is false and the claim caused harm.
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But I think what it's going to hinge on is actual malice, which is a legal term, which
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in this case would mean you'd have to prove that Candace knew that what she was saying
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was not true and said it anyway, which I don't think anyone believes that.
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I think, I think most people believe that Candace really believes what she's saying, even
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I think most people think she really believes it.
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Or that she's demonstrating a reckless disregard for the truth or falsehood of the claim.
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A reckless disregard for whether or not it's true.
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And I guess my question is, how do the Macrons prove actual malice, reckless disregard for
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the truth, in a culture that says that transgenderism is normal and has been around forever?
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If you said in a normal culture, like five minutes ago before transgenderism was a popular
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idea, if you made the claim that many decades ago, this person who looks very much like
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a woman had a secret, very effective sex change surgery that no one knew about and it's
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only coming to light now, most people would say, well, that's totally crazy and you have
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a reckless disregard for the truth and it'd be probably pretty easy to prove defamation.
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But today, the most powerful institutions say that that's totally plausible, don't they?
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One is, you could say, well, it's not defamation because there are no damages.
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I've been told for years now that being transgender is possible, one.
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So you could come at it that way and say, well, there's no damages.
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Because the problem is, our culture now says it is totally reasonable to wonder if an elderly
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woman 50 years ago secretly got a sex change that was convincing and she was able to keep
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The transgenderism has been around forever, right?
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Because in this case, the reckless disregard for the truth comes from our popular culture.
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It is our prominent business and entertainment leaders who insist that a man can be a woman
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and a woman can be a man and transgenderism is just normal.
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And, oh, yeah, people get sex change surgeries all the time.
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When a man goes under the knife to look more like a woman, oh, he could fool you.
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And that's been true for ages, going back to classical antiquity.
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Then the question becomes, how do you prove that when someone wonders something like that, which most people think is not reasonable, how do you prove that that demonstrates a reckless disregard for the truth?
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When your culture demands that you recklessly disregard the truth on this very matter, it's going to be very, very difficult to prove this.
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So I'm not, I mean, you understand where I weigh in on the substantive issue.
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And, you know, I'm not, I'm not persuaded because she's too petite is one of my issues.
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And the voice, it's very hard to fake the voice.
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The transvestite, the people who do the trans thing, they always have a weird voice.
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But I actually, I'm not, I don't mean to be glib about this or anything.
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I do know of multiple people who think that she's a guy.
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And there was, didn't this all start because some French journalists said that she was a guy and then, so they can be dragged to court.
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But anyway, I just think it's going to be very difficult for the Macron's to prove it, especially in America, where there's a very, very high standard for defamation.
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But in any case, it's a, it's a really funny headline.
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Who would have, 10 years ago, would you have expected this?
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Just insert any head of state, any American media figure, and that claim.
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So anyway, I'm sure we'll be following it closely.
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Not just because of personal relationships, but because this is now international news.
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Okay, speaking of men and women, big announcement from Uber.
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Uber will allow women to avoid being paired with male drivers.
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Female passengers are going to get a special privilege.
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They're going to be allowed to toggle off male drivers so they don't need to be driven around by dudes, which is all fine and good.
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When can male Uber customers request not to have female drivers?
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I'm just asking for anyone who might be interested.
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And by the way, actually, before anyone accuses me of sexism, I want to, I'm going to lay my car.
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I'm giving you a real insight into my personal, not only my personal views, but even my personal conversations.
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When sweet little Elise and I go out and we have to call an Uber, it's not me who has the problem with the female drivers.
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Yeah, she, when, because, because all stereotypes are true.
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So when sweet little Elisa sees that it's a lady paired, Mac, can we cancel it, please?
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Can we please, can I want to get a, because I like the female drivers.
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But my bride points out they do tend to miss the exits a little bit more than the men do.
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They don't, they don't drive, they're usually not the right speed.
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And they're not, stereotypes do not, they don't obtain with every individual of a given class.
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But they do, they're stereotypes for a reason, okay.
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And so, obviously, the reason that the women here are requesting to not have a male driver has nothing to do with the driving.
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It's because men can be creepier with women than women can be with men.
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But this does seem to show a little bit of a tension in our current political order.
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Because it comes down to the issue of freedom of association.
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When the Constitution was ratified, we had a country with broad freedom of association.
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You could exclude people from your business, from your club, from any organization.
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And then, over time, people complained that this was discriminatory, that this was foreclosing opportunities to people of different groups, be they racial or sexual or anything in between.
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And so, with the passage, notably of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, we got rid of freedom of association.
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We said, no, you actually don't have a right to exclude people from certain accommodations and certain organizations.
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So what we actually do, in a way, we still have freedom of association for certain groups, but not for other groups.
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The African American society, on any university campus, practically speaking, gets to exclude white people and can only have black people.
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But, of course, there's no such thing as the white society that doesn't let the black people in, or the Hispanic people, or any other people.
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The women get to exclude men from their transactions.
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When you go on Amazon, you can toggle little buttons to say, oh, I want to see black-owned businesses or women-owned businesses.
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But, of course, you don't say, oh, I want a man-owned business.
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So the tension that we have, and this was a point that really came up in recent memory with Christopher Caldwell's excellent book, The Age of Entitlement.
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We have a tension, a tension between two parallel constitutions, which is the U.S. Constitution, you know, we the people, in order to form a more perfect union, and the Constitution of the 1960s, the Civil Rights Act.
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This is why every government department, basically every government office, has a civil rights division to enact this parallel constitution.
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The ladies can request the female drivers, but the men who want to get to their appointments on time and not miss the exit cannot request the male drivers.
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Two homosexuals hired a woman named Brittany Pearson to bear a child for them.
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I guess the child was conceived through in vitro fertilization.
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They bought some lady's egg, and then they hired this woman to bear the child.
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But the woman, very sadly, was diagnosed with breast cancer.
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And so, the woman wants to receive treatment for breast cancer.
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She can't receive the treatment while she is gestating the baby.
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The woman delivers the baby at 25 weeks, which is very, very premature.
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But, thanks to advances in medicine, babies can live at 25 weeks.
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Babies can survive after 21 weeks, or maybe even a little bit less.
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So, you say, okay, well, there was this horrible challenge, even with this bioethically dubious situation.
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And, okay, the woman can receive her cancer treatment, and the baby can survive.
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Except it's not, because the homosexuals who purchased the baby decided to kill the baby.
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So, the two fellas who hired the woman to gestate the baby, and bought the eggs, and did whatever they did.
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They decided to intentionally withhold life-saving medical care from the baby who was delivered at 25 weeks.
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Because the baby was born premature, that can sometimes lead to health problems, longer-term health problems.
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And, it is argued, they have every right to kill the kid, because they paid for it.
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They got the eggs and the sperm, and they hired some unethical scientist to combine them.
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And then, they paid some woman to gestate the baby.
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I mean, think about this in any other area of the market, in any other area of the economy.
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If you're at a restaurant, and you have your meal, it's a nice meal, and then the waiter says,
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And, he goes into the back, and he has the chef make the chocolate cake.
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He took the cake out a little too early, so it was a little too gooey.
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I guess, you know, it comes out, starts cooling down.
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You could put the chocolate cake back in the oven, but it's not going to be the same as if you did it just totally right the first time.
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The customer can say, Get rid of that chocolate cake.
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And, any restaurant worth its salt would say, Oh, of course.
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I've got France on the mind because of the macarons.
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Of course, the chef would go there, and they'd throw out the cake.
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A baby is not food that you order at a restaurant.
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A baby is not a handbag that you buy at a luxury store.
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A baby's a human being with rights to be treated as a proper subject.
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But we, in order to advance, sometimes with the best of intentions, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, in order to advance a false conception of sex, a false conception of human nature, a false definition of marriage, we deny that the baby is a proper subject with rights.
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We treat the baby like the handbag and the cake.
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And so, it should come as no surprise that the customer gets to treat the baby as such.
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You can't retroactively change the law, but the law should be changed immediately, and men who do this should be arrested and left in prison for life or worse.
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And what the revolutionaries, what the cultural and sexual revolutionaries will say is, well, look, this is just the cost of equal rights for LGBT.
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Yeah, sometimes you've got to crack a few eggs to make a cake.
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Sometimes you've got to kill a few babies to allow homosexuals and other people with deviant sexual behaviors and ideologies to pretend that reality is other than it is.
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We haven't even touched on how many human persons were created and discarded to get the baby into the woman's belly in the first place.
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We're just talking about the men who say, ah, yeah, didn't come out right.
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There's no difference between what these guys did in that situation.
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A lot of people starting to take bioethics a little more seriously, including even the New York Times.
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So this actually begins, even before we get to the New York Times reporting, this begins with health and human services.
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Health and human services under Bobby Kennedy proves me right.
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And this is what, you know, sometimes I don't hate to say I told you so.
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In this instance, I actually do hate to say I told you so.
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I've mentioned for months and I've caught some flack for it.
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I said, you know, organ donation is a very dangerous thing.
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And often it involves murdering people because brain death is fake.
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It's just a designation that people came up with in the 1960s to facilitate certain medical interventions and pulling the plug on certain people and organ donation.
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And in the case of organ donation and brain death, what usually happens is that the actual immediate cause of the death of the patient is the retrieval and the removal of the organs.
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Because the patient still has the signs of life before that happens.
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Well, health and human services under Bobby Kennedy did a big study on this.
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HHS has found a systemic disregard for the sanctity of life in the organ transplant system.
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It's so bad that even the New York Times is willing to admit it.
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A federal investigation found a Kentucky nonprofit pushed hospital workers towards surgery despite signs of revival in patients.
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People across the United States have endured rushed or premature attempts to remove their organs.
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Some were gasping, crying, or showing other signs of life.
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There are very few issues where I and the New York Times are in total agreement.
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And when that happens, it's going to be very hard to deny that there is an issue here.
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I hate to say I told you so here, but what this is about is what happens when you tell lies in order to achieve some greater good.
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This is what happens when you cut little corners ethically, because you think, oh, it's not going to really matter, and it's going to make it a lot easier for us to, for instance, remove a patient who has very little hope of recovery from artificial life-sustaining technologies.
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This is going to make it easier to save people who, who knows, maybe they need a liver or they need a heart.
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And we have these patients who, they're not, they were in a bad car accident.
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And so if instead of waiting until they die, we just, because when you die, you know, the organs start to die, and then we can't really use them.
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What if we just take those organs like five seconds before they're really going to die?
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Even though in certain cases of brain death, patients have lived years or decades, actually, after, after brain activity is said to have stopped.
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We're going through puberty, even in some cases we've talked about on the show before.
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But what if we just, we're going to cut this little corner.
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We're going to tell this little tiny white lie.
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We can save millions of dollars from our healthcare system.
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Many, many, hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars from our healthcare system.
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And eventually, all the bad stuff comes to light.
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And we find out that people are fighting for their lives while they are being killed by medical organizations harvesting their organs.
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Can you imagine a more dystopian system and way to go?
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I know that the Maha movement was all about taking dyes out of Froot Loops or whatever, and that's the big victory.
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You have Bobby Kennedy really living up to, in this case at least, his Catholic bona fides.
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Kennedy has taken political positions that are in conflict with the Catholic faith.
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But here, he always considered himself a Catholic.
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He actually went for many years to the same church in suburban New York that my grandmother would go to.
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Putting true pro-life principles first, at least on this issue.
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They're going to lead to lots of problems down the road.
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Now, speaking of the liminal space between life and death, Colbert's public life on CBS is over.
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It will limp along for some number of months before it is fully canceled.
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John Stewart is apparently still on air, looking a little longer in the tooth.
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But I guess he's still hosting The Daily Show, at least sometimes.
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He's not taking the news of his former colleague's consolation very well.
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He responded, as any really sharp, satirical, brilliant cultural voice would,
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I've ever thought that Jon Stewart seems really old.
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I grew up, I watched a lot of John Stewart as a kid, even though he was a huge lib.
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I was kind of libertarian, so there was some overlap. But he seems really old here.
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The whole setup. See, the thing that's supposed to make it funny is he said the F word.
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That's the joke. The joke is he's angry and said the F word. And here's the second part of the
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joke. He is doing something really vulgar, and he is contrasting it with something that's supposed
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to be really virtuous and holy. He's got a gospel choir, but he's saying the F word. They're all
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saying the F word. Isn't that funny? It's not funny is the problem. It might have been funny 20 years
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ago or 25 years ago, but it's not anymore because the culture's totally changed. And he was part of
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that change. Decades ago, George Carlin could say the words you're not allowed to say on TV.
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And that was really shocking and naughty because you really weren't allowed to say those words on TV.
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Then, I remember this. I was around for this. I remember the two big shows on Comedy Central in the
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late 90s and early 2000s were South Park and The Daily Show. The Daily Show, initially hosted by
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Craig Kilbourne. Then Jon Stewart took it over and became a darling of the liberal press. And at the
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same time, even on cable, you couldn't say a lot of naughty words. And then South Park came out and
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said a ton of naughty words. But they still couldn't say certain words like S-H-I-T or the F word or other
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words. And then over time, even those taboos, even those standards started to break down. And
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they could say S-H-I-T. Then they could say basically anything. And in those days, it was so
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shocking. In those days, if Jon Stewart came on TV or Jon Oliver or Colbert actually didn't really do
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this as much, but the two of them, they'd come out and instead of writing a joke, they would just
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read a headline and then read it again, but put the F word in it. And that was the substitute for a
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joke. And they normalized that 25 years ago. And now they think that that's still really cool and
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shocking, but it's not. So what would be subversive now is to be clean, to go clean. What was subversive
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in the 90s was Dennis Leary singing I'm an A-hole or whatever, all those, Jon Stewart singing the F word,
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but that isn't subversive anymore. And Colbert is not really funny anymore. He was funny on his
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company central show at the time. He's not, he hasn't been funny in years. It's not culturally
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subversive. It's not culturally popular. That's why it loses 40 million bucks a year. And that's why
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he's getting canceled. He's getting canceled because that show lost an insane amount of money every
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year. So when Jon Stewart says, go F yourself, who's he really saying it to? Is he saying it to
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Donald Trump? Not really. Trump didn't get him fired. Is he saying it to the network?
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Or now he's, he's saying it to you. That's what he said. He's saying it to you because you didn't
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watch Colbert and you were supposed to watch Colbert because this was still supposed to be
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funny and this was still supposed to be relevant, but it's not really anymore. So it's real. What's
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he saying? F you to go F yourself. I don't know. Is he saying it to father time? It's some,
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before I get to a delicious little clip of a Democrat admitting something Republicans have
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been alleging for decades. Democrats have been denying it for decades. And now we got the proof.
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We got the smoking gun from a sitting member of Congress. Before we get to that, my favorite
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comment yesterday is from TL Catlett. I knew I knew I was going to get hit for this. Ozzy's music was
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not satanic. I know. I know the argument. John Cornel O'Connor said the music was demonic.
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Ozzy said, no, it's really, it's not. It's Christian actually. And Ozzy would wear a cross and he was called
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the Prince of Darkness, but it was all kind of tongue in cheek and is deeply Christian. And I
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knew all the Ozzy fans were going to, I know. But what I said was, I wasn't saying Ozzy's horrible
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and he's a Satanist and he's burning in the pit of hell looking up at us right now. I said, what I said
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was Ozzy seemed like a nice enough guy and he was a kind of lovable, eccentric, cultural figure.
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But the stuff he was most known for was pretty bad and demonic. And I'm sure he felt a great
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deal of shame for it. In fact, I know he did. All the drug stuff, all the crazy antics on the drugs
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and the women and all of this, and the really famous incident, infamous incident where Ozzy
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tried to murder his wife and not even just like in a normal way. He did it by saying, we have decided
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in a reportedly totally calm way, we have decided that you must die. They strangled his wife and luckily
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she hit a panic button and the cops arrested Ozzy. And he was asked about this. I said,
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what do you have to say about that incident? He goes, well, it's not the proudest achievement
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I've got. You know, it was kind of a funny answer. That was my point. What a pity, because he seems
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like he's kind of a sweet guy. I hope I see Ozzy in heaven someday. But so much of what he's remembered
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for is genuinely terrible stuff. We should all try to avoid that. That's what I said. That's what I
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said. You can't, come on. Come on. Don't say I said something I didn't say. Okay. Speaking of bad liberal
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arguments, we move from Jon Stewart to Representative Yvette Clark, who is admitting on camera,
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the Democrats rely on illegal aliens to boost their numbers in Congress and get more power.
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I'm from Brooklyn, New York. We have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these
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migrants. And that, you know, when I hear colleagues talk about, you know, the doors of the
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inn being closed, no room in the inn, I'm saying, you know, I need more people in my district,
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but just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here.
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I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. You catch that part?
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Because, understand, the number of representatives that a state will have in Congress is not based on
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the number of citizens in the state or the number of taxpayers or something. It's based on the number
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of people in the state. So if you flood a state with a bunch of illegals, you're going to increase
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their representation in Congress, which dramatically can shift the balance of power in the government.
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And what Yvette is saying here is, yeah, I need those illegals to get our population numbers up.
00:36:09.280
You know, there are a lot of people leaving these blue states, going to the red states for better
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taxes, better business environment, better schools, more normal lifestyle. And shoot, we got to make
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up the difference here so that the blue states don't lose their representation. It doesn't matter if
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the illegals vote or not. As long as they're there in blue counties, then the Democrats will get more
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representation and we won't lose our power. I've said for years, as have many Republicans,
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that the reason the Democrats open up the borders is because, well, one, the business community just
00:36:39.600
wants slave labor, but the Democrats want to get a permanent electoral majority. And then the libs,
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all the fancy libs, they say, that's ridiculous. That's a conspiracy theory. That's a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Well, here she is. You heard it from the horse's mouth. She's admitting it. She's a sitting
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Democrat member of Congress. Don't ever let them tell you again that the Democrats are not pushing
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open borders for purposes of giving them a permanent electoral majority. That's what it's about.
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Now, speaking of migration, some good news here. You know, President Trump has that self-deportation
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app. It's an app that says, hey, if you don't want to get Tom Holman's boot kicking down your door,
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you can choose to deport yourself. And if you do it, we're going to geolocate you. Once we find out
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you're back in your country of origin, we'll send you a thousand bucks, which is the most efficient
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way and most humane way to deport people. We have 11 to 16 million illegal aliens in the country.
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That's a conservative estimate. You're not going to get Tom Holman to personally chuck all of them
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out of the country. It would be obscenely expensive and it would be practically impossible.
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Plus a lot more than a thousand bucks to put an illegal through the whole process of deportation
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and ship them down to Bukele's house of fun in El Salvador. So if they can do it themselves,
00:37:53.920
they handle all the costs of that. And then we give them a thousand bucks, we are getting off
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cheap. And it shows the humanity of Trump's immigration policy because yeah, they're sticks.
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They're the sticks that Tom Holman hit you with while he's kicking you across the Rio Grande,
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but they're also carrots. We're also saying, look, we understand this is a complex problem,
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mostly advanced by Democrats and the Chamber of Commerce. So we're going to,
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I'm sorry that they rolled out the red carpet for you to break our laws. You got to leave,
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but we'll give you a thousand bucks and not throw you in prison. How's that sound?
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This is great. Because so far what we're finding out is that likely the app has saved millions
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for taxpayers in the deportations. And also we know it's been used by tens of thousands of illegals.
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So then you're going to say, well, tens of thousands of illegals compared to 16 million,
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that's just not a lot of people. But you have to pair that study on the app with the illegals who are
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not using the app, who are just self-deporting because they don't want to get a one-way ticket
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from Mr. Holman. There was a Center for Immigration Studies survey that showed that 1 million illegal
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aliens have self-deported since January. And the way we can know that is by looking at the labor
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participation numbers. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Again, it's a huge uphill battle,
00:39:06.220
but given all the headwinds that Trump is facing, the immigration policy is actually going pretty well.
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A lot of panicans, a lot of critics want to say he isn't deporting anyone. The numbers are actually
00:39:16.220
looking pretty good. Okay. Speaking of Trump issues, we get an Epstein update. So remember,
00:39:24.380
initially the Republicans said, we're going to release the Epstein files. And the Attorney General
00:39:28.800
Pam Bondi went on TV and said, I've got the Epstein list of clients on my desk. And she gave the binders
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out to those social media influencers. I hear the files. And there was nothing new in the files.
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And then she said, I got the list on my desk. And then she said, actually, there isn't a list
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and you're not going to get anything else. And I pointed out, I said, look, you're never going to
00:39:48.480
really learn anything new about Epstein, but this is a big political problem for Trump because he
00:39:52.680
seems like he's not being forthright here. He's, I think, underestimated how much this issue matters
00:39:58.120
to a lot of his base because it's a symbol of corruption in the swamp. Not that Trump is implicated
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in the files, really. Not that they're covering up for a cabal of pedos necessarily.
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But that by not being more forthright on the files, you're creating a big issue that's not
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going to go away overnight. So I said that Trump needs a better answer. He's not being served well
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by this answer. And then what did Trump do? This is a brilliant idea. He said, okay, I'm directing
00:40:27.400
the Justice Department to go to the courts, to have the courts unseal the grand jury testimony
00:40:33.380
so you get a bunch of info on Epstein. And the reason this was brilliant is not that we're going
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to get a list of, you know, here's a leather-bound version of the top 10 pedos on earth. Go get them.
00:40:45.300
It's not even really possible for that to come out of the files, but because it makes it an issue
00:40:50.900
for the judiciary. So what I predicted in the first place remains true. Either Epstein is who the
00:40:58.420
government says he is, in which case you know everything you're going to know, or Epstein is not
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who the government says he is. He's who you think he is. He's a super spy. He's whatever.
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In which case you already know everything you're going to know. But in no instance are you going
00:41:11.840
to get any serious, juicy stuff out of it. I hope we get some justice, but you're not going to get
00:41:18.020
a lot of transparency here. And that's exactly what's happened because the DOJ went to the courts
00:41:23.500
and said, give me the Epstein files. Give me the Epstein grand jury testimony. And the court said
00:41:28.360
no. The court said no. It would be imprudent to release that. You don't have the right to that
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and we're not going to do it. Which is a win for the Trump administration. Because now it means people
00:41:39.120
can direct their ire to that branch of government, not to the executive branch, over an issue that
00:41:44.680
long predates Trump, that Trump doesn't want to deal with, that Trump doesn't really seem to have
00:41:48.720
much more they can do with it. It's okay. Go focus on the judiciary. That is a political win.
00:41:53.260
It's going to be unsatisfying for people who want the list. Whatever the list even is at this point.
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The list of people who were accused. The list of people who went to the Epstein properties.
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The list of people who are supposedly on video that the government says doesn't even exist.
00:42:05.400
Even though there was video, but now they say the video doesn't include people, but it does
00:42:09.660
include abused children. And the whole thing is a big mess. But from a political perspective,
00:42:16.560
now everyone's going to focus on the judiciary. Trump can get on talking about the
00:42:20.900
achievements that he wants to talk about. Now, speaking of longstanding presidential scandals,
00:42:28.160
this one is really bad. This one is almost as bad as the issue with the two guys buying the kid.
00:42:38.920
The Biden administration set up a hotline for migrant kids. The many migrant kids who were brought
00:42:47.540
across the border by criminal cartels with the welcoming of the Biden administration and the Obama
00:42:51.560
administration. The Biden admin set up this hotline so that the kids who were placed with sponsors in
00:42:58.520
other homes could report if there was any abuse. 65,000 calls went unanswered, which certainly just by the
00:43:12.740
numbers is a much bigger child abuse scandal, even, even than Epstein by orders of magnitude.
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We don't have time to get to that right now. So we'll have to get to that tomorrow.
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How's that, how's that for a horrifying cliffhanger? We don't have any member in segmentum today
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because I'm out at the Napa conference. There's been a lot of travel. Poor sweet little Alisa
00:43:30.940
is at home like Steve Martin, just juggling a bunch of toddlers, plotting out ways to murder me.
00:43:36.400
I have been on the road. It's been a little crazy with the timing and giving speeches and all the rest of it.
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So we will have, there will be more Membra Segmenta, that's the plural of Membrum Segmentum,
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there will be more Membra Segmenta coming up, but not right now. Sorry. Save up all your good juicy
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comments so that I can read them from the Chem Dillah Chem when I get back. I'm Michael Knowles,
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this is the Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.