The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1785 - Sydney Sweeney's Titillating Voter Registration LEAKED

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00:01:19.120 Sidney Sweeney's voter registration has been revealed

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00:03:11.040 Before we get to any of the other things in the news,

00:03:13.460 including there's a big Christian pop star

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00:03:19.640 There's a lot.

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00:03:22.020 It was a long weekend.

00:03:23.120 But before we get to that,

00:03:23.980 obviously the most important story,

00:03:26.000 we now know Sidney Sweeney's voter registration.

00:03:29.320 Drumroll, please.

00:03:30.340 If you're driving, pull over.

00:03:31.300 If you're standing, sit down.

00:03:33.560 She's not a Democrat.

00:03:35.600 She's a Republican.

00:03:37.020 BuzzFeed is reporting that Sidney Sweeney,

00:03:41.200 after the whole American Eagle backlash,

00:03:43.640 has emerged to be a Republican.

00:03:46.520 And so I can't even just say she's not a Democrat

00:03:49.840 because there are plenty of people who would say,

00:03:51.720 well, I'm independent.

00:03:52.800 Well, I don't, you know, neither party represents me.

00:03:55.520 But apparently, according to BuzzFeed,

00:03:57.120 Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican in Florida.

00:04:00.140 She left California for Florida.

00:04:01.600 That was probably the first clue.

00:04:03.600 I'm not surprised by this at all.

00:04:05.460 Apparently, some people are.

00:04:08.020 Many people are saying, who cares?

00:04:09.760 I don't care what Sidney Sweeney's voter registration is.

00:04:11.860 But that's kind of rich coming from the party

00:04:14.780 that has for 20 years said ad nauseum,

00:04:17.340 politics is downstream of culture

00:04:18.940 and we need to win back the culture.

00:04:20.280 And you want to win back the culture,

00:04:21.200 but you don't care what the celebrities

00:04:23.740 are saying about politics?

00:04:25.100 No, those two things can't be true at the same time.

00:04:27.320 You obviously care what the celebrities say about politics.

00:04:29.680 You say you don't care what celebrities think about politics

00:04:32.100 only because the celebrities are always huge libs.

00:04:34.940 So you say, well, I don't care about that.

00:04:36.400 I'm going to minimize the effect of their political views.

00:04:40.680 But it's good to have popular people,

00:04:43.340 people like Sidney Sweeney,

00:04:44.380 who are objects of affection

00:04:46.700 for a great many men in this country.

00:04:48.440 It's good to have these attractive people

00:04:50.700 support your political side

00:04:52.260 because we live in public life.

00:04:53.600 They're public figures.

00:04:54.940 Politics is about the public.

00:04:56.220 So obviously true.

00:04:57.760 I am not surprised she's a Republican at all.

00:05:00.060 And I think the reason some people are surprised

00:05:02.280 is that they don't understand

00:05:04.340 a basic rule of thumb in Hollywood.

00:05:06.960 And with good reason, I guess.

00:05:09.060 If you haven't spent time around Hollywood,

00:05:10.360 you would have no reason to know this rule of thumb.

00:05:13.100 In Hollywood,

00:05:14.600 if a celebrity is not constantly braying

00:05:18.140 about his left-wing politics,

00:05:20.560 he's a Republican.

00:05:23.280 That's how you know.

00:05:24.200 It's not that some celebrities

00:05:29.060 constantly are mouthing off about politics on one side

00:05:32.320 and some celebrities are constantly mouthing off

00:05:34.780 about the other side of politics.

00:05:36.140 That's really not how it works.

00:05:37.520 There are some exceptions.

00:05:38.600 But generally speaking,

00:05:39.980 they're all constantly braying

00:05:42.060 and mooing and wooing

00:05:43.980 about being huge libs

00:05:45.560 and trying to get you to donate to Planned Parenthood

00:05:47.320 and vote for Bernie or whatever.

00:05:49.080 And then there are some other celebrities

00:05:50.900 who just don't talk about politics.

00:05:53.040 Those celebrities are all Republicans.

00:05:56.260 That's how you know.

00:05:58.300 And there are other reasons

00:05:59.360 that you could tell Sidney Sweeney is a Republican.

00:06:01.600 She looks normal.

00:06:03.340 She's very beautiful,

00:06:04.220 but she looks like a normal, beautiful person.

00:06:08.380 She seems generally happy much of the time.

00:06:12.660 She hasn't mutilated her body

00:06:14.880 in ways that express a hatred of her father.

00:06:18.520 She's not just completely covered head to toe

00:06:20.600 in tattoos with 150 different piercings everywhere.

00:06:23.040 She's not, her hair is a normal color.

00:06:25.560 I don't know if it's a natural color,

00:06:26.640 but it's a normal color.

00:06:27.880 She's just kind of normal.

00:06:29.800 And survey after survey,

00:06:31.900 social science study after social science study

00:06:34.700 shows that conservatives

00:06:36.420 and therefore Republicans

00:06:37.380 tend to be generally

00:06:38.420 a little bit more content in life.

00:06:39.820 They're not screaming and whining

00:06:40.920 and crying about their families

00:06:43.480 or the political order

00:06:44.320 or ultimately reality,

00:06:45.480 which is what liberalism comes down to

00:06:46.900 is just rejecting reality

00:06:49.260 and trying to liberate yourself from it.

00:06:52.420 Now, last bit on this.

00:06:53.580 Some people are going to say,

00:06:54.940 well, Sidney Sweeney is not a real conservative.

00:06:56.820 You know, she does these kind of sexy scenes

00:06:59.220 and she showed too much skin

00:07:01.100 in that American Eagle ad or what.

00:07:02.560 I'm not saying she's Russell Kirk

00:07:05.820 in a pair of blue jeans, okay?

00:07:07.280 I'm not saying she's the blonde reincarnation

00:07:10.060 of William F. Buckley Jr., okay?

00:07:12.860 But she's a Republican.

00:07:14.740 And there are plenty of people

00:07:16.220 in the Republican Party

00:07:17.320 who don't wear three-piece tweed suits

00:07:19.640 all the time, okay?

00:07:21.200 And which is a good thing.

00:07:22.360 Because if the Republican Party

00:07:25.600 only comprised people

00:07:27.240 who wear three-piece tweed suits

00:07:29.360 and bow ties,

00:07:30.180 we would never win any elections anywhere,

00:07:32.220 including dog catcher

00:07:33.320 in the most right-wing county in America.

00:07:35.740 You need to bring in

00:07:37.580 all these eccentric people,

00:07:40.300 the Maha people and the trads

00:07:43.020 and some of the right-wing libertarians

00:07:45.100 and the normal people

00:07:46.520 and the people who don't think

00:07:47.300 that much about politics

00:07:48.460 and a handful of rich people

00:07:50.580 and a lot of not rich people

00:07:52.140 and you got to bring in

00:07:53.060 all sorts of people

00:07:53.760 who don't have exactly the same views.

00:07:56.940 So I'm into it.

00:07:58.100 I love it.

00:07:59.680 The woman who is considered

00:08:00.960 probably the most beautiful,

00:08:03.840 presently popular,

00:08:05.140 attractive Hollywood starlet

00:08:06.580 is a Republican.

00:08:08.580 I'll take the win.

00:08:10.160 I'll take yes for an answer, okay?

00:08:12.160 I know there are all sorts

00:08:13.080 of malcontents on the right

00:08:14.720 who must clutch defeat

00:08:16.480 from the jaws of victory.

00:08:17.660 I will take yes for an answer.

00:08:19.000 One last point on American Eagle.

00:08:20.500 American Eagle has finally responded

00:08:23.100 to the non-traversy

00:08:24.780 that their jeans commercial

00:08:25.860 was apparently a call

00:08:27.060 for a Fourth Reich

00:08:28.080 and channeling the spirit

00:08:30.260 of Goebbels and Hitler.

00:08:32.320 A particularly funny claim

00:08:34.480 given that the CEO

00:08:36.300 and chairman of American Eagle

00:08:37.740 is Jay Schottenstein.

00:08:41.320 Not the most pro-Hitler name

00:08:43.440 I've ever heard.

00:08:44.280 Seems like he's a member

00:08:45.080 of a certain ancient nomadic tribe.

00:08:46.640 But nevertheless,

00:08:48.040 they were calling this guy

00:08:48.780 a Nazi and accusing

00:08:50.280 the advertisement

00:08:51.340 of promoting eugenics.

00:08:53.200 Eugenics which they support

00:08:54.480 when it founds Planned Parenthood,

00:08:56.040 their favorite nonprofit.

00:08:57.880 But eugenics which the left hates

00:09:00.180 when it promotes

00:09:01.000 beautiful blonde ladies.

00:09:02.940 This is what American Eagle

00:09:03.960 had to say.

00:09:04.920 Their first statement on the matter,

00:09:06.460 Sidney Sweeney has great jeans,

00:09:08.120 is and always was about the jeans.

00:09:09.900 Her jeans, her story,

00:09:11.260 will continue to celebrate

00:09:12.360 how everyone wears

00:09:13.100 their AE jeans with confidence.

00:09:15.340 Their way,

00:09:16.100 great jeans look good

00:09:18.080 on everyone.

00:09:19.120 There you have it.

00:09:20.660 And I know a lot of people

00:09:21.580 were worried.

00:09:22.220 They said,

00:09:22.380 oh no, American Eagle,

00:09:24.160 don't back down.

00:09:26.260 There's going to be

00:09:26.820 a cancel campaign.

00:09:27.760 There's going to be

00:09:28.000 a lot of pressure,

00:09:28.500 but don't back down.

00:09:30.500 Don't cave to the woke mob.

00:09:31.980 I hope they don't back down.

00:09:35.020 They were never going to back down.

00:09:37.300 You know how I knew

00:09:38.080 they were never going to back down?

00:09:39.900 Because they put out

00:09:41.720 the commercial in the first place,

00:09:42.840 which was not subtle.

00:09:44.780 And you know why

00:09:45.440 they put out the commercial

00:09:46.200 in the first place

00:09:46.900 and you know why

00:09:47.320 they weren't going to back down

00:09:48.220 and you know why

00:09:48.720 this was a successful ad

00:09:49.880 and you know why

00:09:50.600 they issued this non-apology?

00:09:53.700 Because they saw

00:09:54.440 what happened in November.

00:09:55.860 That's why.

00:09:58.000 We're good, guys.

00:09:59.120 We're good.

00:10:00.840 Woke is over.

00:10:04.040 The particular expressions

00:10:05.940 of woke,

00:10:06.380 notably transgenderism,

00:10:08.780 a lot of the race hustling,

00:10:10.160 it's over.

00:10:12.060 It doesn't work.

00:10:14.340 Corporations

00:10:14.900 that have boards,

00:10:17.500 that have Excel spreadsheets,

00:10:19.600 that have men in suits and ties

00:10:21.920 making cold calculations

00:10:24.260 about what's going to make them

00:10:26.680 a marginal extra dollar,

00:10:28.420 the corporations have concluded

00:10:30.440 that woke liberalism,

00:10:34.080 leftism, progressivism

00:10:35.600 is a loser.

00:10:40.360 Good-looking blonde actresses

00:10:42.420 wearing normal clothing,

00:10:45.120 saying normal things,

00:10:46.000 that's a winner.

00:10:47.180 That's it.

00:10:48.720 American Eagle

00:10:49.520 did not

00:10:50.360 not back down

00:10:51.680 because

00:10:52.940 we were all rooting for them.

00:10:56.260 American Eagle

00:10:56.960 chose not to back down

00:10:58.220 out of a cold calculation,

00:11:01.760 which is really,

00:11:02.520 really great news.

00:11:03.200 This is the winner, folks.

00:11:05.840 In part,

00:11:06.320 this is a generational thing, too.

00:11:08.480 Because I think

00:11:09.260 had it been just the millennials,

00:11:11.920 this company would have had

00:11:12.740 to back down.

00:11:13.200 They couldn't have put the commercial

00:11:13.900 out in the first place.

00:11:14.780 But I think looking at the trends,

00:11:17.220 Gen Z,

00:11:18.800 it's a polarized generation.

00:11:20.840 The ones who have gone left

00:11:21.960 are really far left,

00:11:22.980 like castrated themselves

00:11:24.040 at 15 left,

00:11:25.540 though some have actually

00:11:26.540 come back since then.

00:11:27.360 But I think

00:11:28.440 the broad trend

00:11:29.340 with Gen Z

00:11:29.920 is these people

00:11:30.780 are to the right

00:11:31.580 of Francisco Franco.

00:11:33.500 This liberalism

00:11:34.940 ain't selling.

00:11:36.340 And if you want

00:11:37.400 to get your jeans

00:11:38.520 over the checkout counter,

00:11:40.940 you got to try

00:11:42.060 a different tack.

00:11:42.820 Okay.

00:11:43.380 Now,

00:11:44.120 speaking of Republicans,

00:11:46.220 a major Democrat figure,

00:11:48.380 Eric Holder,

00:11:49.000 he was the attorney general

00:11:49.940 for Barack Obama,

00:11:51.400 he is claiming

00:11:52.580 that Donald Trump

00:11:53.260 is an authoritarian

00:11:54.060 and is actively rigging

00:11:56.080 the midterms.

00:11:56.860 We will examine

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00:11:58.620 major claim.

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00:13:36.200 Eric Holder

00:13:37.060 making a major,

00:13:38.200 major claim.

00:13:39.760 He's saying that

00:13:40.860 Trump is rigging

00:13:41.640 the midterms.

00:13:42.380 This is just

00:13:43.200 an extension

00:13:43.760 of the same

00:13:44.640 threat to democracy line

00:13:46.600 that we've heard

00:13:47.020 about Trump

00:13:47.420 for 10 years.

00:13:48.280 But don't forget

00:13:48.760 that that line

00:13:50.160 which says that

00:13:50.880 Trump poses

00:13:51.300 an existential threat

00:13:52.220 to our republic

00:13:52.860 almost got him

00:13:54.100 murdered twice,

00:13:54.880 came within about

00:13:55.600 a 20th of an inch,

00:13:56.720 blew off part of his ear

00:13:57.660 in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:13:58.620 So this is

00:13:59.520 a very serious accusation.

00:14:02.960 Why is Eric Holder

00:14:03.980 saying that Trump

00:14:04.540 is rigging the midterms?

00:14:06.060 Because

00:14:06.540 down in Texas,

00:14:08.880 a group of legislators

00:14:10.080 on a Texas House panel

00:14:11.420 voted on Saturday

00:14:13.420 to advance

00:14:14.640 a new draft

00:14:15.720 of a congressional

00:14:16.460 map.

00:14:16.920 You know,

00:14:17.080 every number of years

00:14:18.460 the different states

00:14:19.980 rewrite their

00:14:21.440 congressional districts

00:14:22.220 because people

00:14:22.660 move into districts,

00:14:23.700 they move out of districts,

00:14:25.380 the balance of power

00:14:26.340 shifts,

00:14:26.800 and so they redraw

00:14:27.560 the districts

00:14:28.040 based on where people

00:14:28.900 are actually living.

00:14:31.180 Eric Holder says,

00:14:32.640 this is beyond

00:14:34.420 the pale,

00:14:35.060 authoritarian,

00:14:36.380 a rigging

00:14:36.880 of our elections.

00:14:38.780 Thank you for joining

00:14:39.620 us this morning,

00:14:40.240 Mr. Holder.

00:14:40.940 You know,

00:14:41.180 you've been leading

00:14:41.660 an effort to stop

00:14:42.700 gerrymandering.

00:14:44.060 Now you say it's time

00:14:44.800 to fight fire

00:14:45.580 with fire.

00:14:46.940 Why the turnaround?

00:14:49.960 Well,

00:14:50.520 I think we have to

00:14:51.340 understand that

00:14:52.240 the nature of the threat

00:14:53.800 that has been

00:14:54.460 put upon the country

00:14:56.040 through what they're

00:14:56.840 trying to do in Texas

00:14:57.860 has really increased

00:14:59.740 the danger to our

00:15:00.900 democracy,

00:15:01.480 and as a result of that,

00:15:02.960 we've got to do things

00:15:04.160 that perhaps in the past

00:15:05.540 I would not have

00:15:06.300 supported.

00:15:07.060 This is an authoritarian

00:15:08.700 move by the White House

00:15:10.500 to try to make sure

00:15:11.760 that they can rig

00:15:12.500 the election,

00:15:13.340 the midterm elections

00:15:14.140 in 2026.

00:15:16.160 And so I think that

00:15:16.920 a democratic response

00:15:18.340 that is responsible,

00:15:19.800 that is responsive,

00:15:20.760 and that is temporary

00:15:21.740 is appropriate

00:15:23.100 given these facts.

00:15:25.440 If it's responsive,

00:15:26.760 if it's responsible,

00:15:28.700 if it's

00:15:29.400 responsorous,

00:15:31.760 if it's

00:15:32.360 responserific,

00:15:34.360 if it,

00:15:36.220 okay,

00:15:36.480 you want Democrats

00:15:37.040 to respond to what?

00:15:38.400 That Republicans

00:15:39.240 in the Texas legislature

00:15:40.600 who have the majority

00:15:42.240 redrew the congressional maps

00:15:44.980 in ways that might

00:15:45.920 be good for Republicans,

00:15:47.720 in ways that might

00:15:48.620 just reflect the reality

00:15:49.540 of the voter base,

00:15:50.260 but that might also

00:15:51.120 benefit Republicans.

00:15:52.240 And you're saying

00:15:52.660 this is beyond the pale.

00:15:54.040 We have to do something

00:15:54.960 to stop this.

00:15:55.820 This is the rigging

00:15:56.500 of our elections.

00:15:57.260 This is the end

00:15:57.700 of democracy.

00:15:59.200 Okay.

00:16:00.840 Even George Stephanopoulos,

00:16:02.380 who was the hatchet man

00:16:03.340 for Bill Clinton,

00:16:04.080 even George Stephanopoulos,

00:16:05.120 who was head of communications

00:16:06.140 in the Bill Clinton White House,

00:16:07.260 this guy is a Democrat

00:16:08.240 operative through and through.

00:16:10.120 Even he says,

00:16:10.900 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:16:12.340 Don't Democrats

00:16:12.920 do the same thing?

00:16:14.780 You saw what Karl Rove,

00:16:16.140 the former Republican

00:16:16.820 strategist, has said.

00:16:17.920 He said,

00:16:18.400 we've always had

00:16:19.100 partisan redistricting,

00:16:20.460 thus it ever was,

00:16:21.300 thus it ever will be.

00:16:22.480 How is this different?

00:16:25.960 Well, you know,

00:16:26.620 simply because

00:16:27.340 this is something

00:16:27.920 that has afflicted

00:16:28.800 the nation for,

00:16:30.020 you know,

00:16:30.280 an extended period of time

00:16:31.440 doesn't mean

00:16:32.000 that it's right.

00:16:33.340 Oh, there we are.

00:16:35.300 Oh, yeah, I mean,

00:16:36.440 sure, yeah,

00:16:36.840 both parties have done it,

00:16:37.740 but now it's bad.

00:16:39.820 Now, it's always,

00:16:40.640 doesn't mean it's right,

00:16:41.420 now it's bad.

00:16:43.660 Yeah, but Mr. Holder,

00:16:44.700 you never had a problem

00:16:45.440 with it when it was

00:16:46.000 you Democrats

00:16:46.620 rigging the congressional

00:16:47.560 districts.

00:16:48.580 You only have a problem

00:16:49.540 with it now

00:16:49.980 because you're accusing

00:16:51.000 Republicans of doing that.

00:16:52.480 J.D. Vance

00:16:53.100 pointed this out.

00:16:54.500 He pointed this out

00:16:55.300 a few days ago, actually,

00:16:56.000 before Eric Holder

00:16:56.640 made these comments.

00:16:57.720 He said,

00:16:58.340 the gerrymander

00:16:59.160 in California

00:16:59.780 is outrageous.

00:17:00.560 Of their 52

00:17:01.960 congressional districts,

00:17:03.380 nine of them

00:17:04.140 are Republican.

00:17:04.960 That means 17%

00:17:06.260 of their delegation

00:17:07.320 is Republican

00:17:07.920 when Republicans

00:17:09.340 regularly win

00:17:10.260 40%

00:17:11.200 of the vote

00:17:12.020 in that state.

00:17:13.180 How can this

00:17:14.080 possibly be allowed?

00:17:16.500 40% of California

00:17:18.280 among the voters

00:17:19.160 is Republican.

00:17:21.140 17%

00:17:22.020 of the legislators

00:17:22.700 are.

00:17:23.080 Come on.

00:17:24.080 What's that?

00:17:24.480 It's not just California,

00:17:25.480 though.

00:17:26.500 What about,

00:17:27.140 I'm going to take you

00:17:28.840 on a little trip

00:17:29.240 around the country.

00:17:30.640 Have you ever visited

00:17:31.660 the 13th congressional district

00:17:33.840 in the state of Illinois?

00:17:35.200 No, you haven't?

00:17:36.180 Okay.

00:17:37.340 So,

00:17:37.960 CD13 in Illinois,

00:17:39.540 if you're just listening

00:17:40.220 to this,

00:17:41.040 it looks like,

00:17:41.920 it's almost a 90-degree angle.

00:17:44.180 Starts in St. Louis,

00:17:45.820 goes up,

00:17:46.940 curves a tiny little bit,

00:17:48.160 goes right.

00:17:49.480 Looks like a pistol

00:17:50.360 or something.

00:17:51.980 This is through,

00:17:52.820 I'm probably going to

00:17:53.440 mispronounce some of the names

00:17:54.240 of these towns,

00:17:54.840 Decatur,

00:17:55.280 Springfield,

00:17:57.120 Urbana-Champaign.

00:17:59.500 Why is this

00:18:00.480 congressional district

00:18:01.400 look like a weird snake?

00:18:03.940 Well,

00:18:04.460 because,

00:18:05.140 if it just were a plot,

00:18:06.320 if it were a square

00:18:07.040 or a circle

00:18:07.740 or a normal-looking shape,

00:18:09.300 it would include

00:18:10.680 a lot of Republicans.

00:18:12.700 And then,

00:18:13.440 the Democrats

00:18:13.860 would lose a safe seat.

00:18:15.000 So,

00:18:15.460 it just connects

00:18:16.280 a bunch of disparate

00:18:17.400 little Democrat strongholds

00:18:18.740 to give Democrats

00:18:19.480 the seat.

00:18:20.060 Okay.

00:18:20.680 Let's leave Illinois.

00:18:22.580 Let's go,

00:18:23.140 we've been to California.

00:18:24.280 We've been to Illinois.

00:18:24.920 Let's go to Maryland.

00:18:25.920 Maryland CD6.

00:18:28.260 They call this one

00:18:29.180 the earmuff district.

00:18:31.480 It looks like earmuffs.

00:18:33.880 It's right over the top here.

00:18:36.720 You got,

00:18:37.140 it goes down,

00:18:37.660 on the left,

00:18:38.160 it goes down a little bit,

00:18:38.800 on the right,

00:18:39.060 it goes down a little bit,

00:18:39.740 snakes across the top

00:18:40.760 of the state.

00:18:43.620 Why?

00:18:45.200 Because,

00:18:45.580 if it had a normal shape,

00:18:46.900 Democrats could lose the seat.

00:18:48.900 Let's go,

00:18:49.440 you know what,

00:18:49.840 let's go back to Illinois

00:18:50.600 for a second.

00:18:51.580 This one is one of the

00:18:52.920 weirdest ones I've ever seen.

00:18:54.580 Illinois CD4.

00:18:57.620 So,

00:18:58.240 Illinois CD4,

00:19:01.480 hold on,

00:19:02.300 is CD4 the earmuffs district?

00:19:05.040 It's kind of,

00:19:05.640 yeah,

00:19:05.900 no,

00:19:06.080 here,

00:19:06.260 I guess this is,

00:19:06.920 this is,

00:19:08.580 Illinois CD4,

00:19:11.260 no,

00:19:11.420 it doesn't look like earmuffs.

00:19:12.260 This is very confusing,

00:19:13.240 all the Democrat

00:19:13.860 gerrymandered districts.

00:19:15.820 CD4 looks like a big splotch.

00:19:18.500 It looks like a birthmark

00:19:19.480 or something.

00:19:20.200 Starts in Chicago,

00:19:22.300 and,

00:19:23.440 yeah,

00:19:23.660 there we go.

00:19:24.020 Starts in Chicago,

00:19:24.920 moves west,

00:19:25.760 a little tiny bit down

00:19:26.880 to the south,

00:19:27.520 and then west.

00:19:28.320 Then you,

00:19:28.920 you,

00:19:29.240 you meet up with this

00:19:31.040 line,

00:19:32.880 and then it cuts

00:19:33.720 in the upper right

00:19:34.820 into another splotch.

00:19:35.960 It looks like a,

00:19:36.740 a cancerous birthmark.

00:19:40.900 Why?

00:19:42.080 Because that way,

00:19:42.940 Democrats can hold the seat.

00:19:45.140 Eric Holder not whining

00:19:45.960 about that district.

00:19:47.300 Maryland,

00:19:50.660 the other Illinois,

00:19:51.760 all of California,

00:19:52.740 and many,

00:19:53.260 many more.

00:19:53.560 I don't have to have to get

00:19:54.160 through them all on the show.

00:19:57.280 Thus it ever was,

00:19:58.480 thus it will be.

00:19:59.880 This is the best

00:20:00.860 they've got against

00:20:01.580 Trump right now.

00:20:02.320 This is the best,

00:20:03.420 it's sad,

00:20:04.220 actually,

00:20:04.580 to see.

00:20:05.240 After 10 years

00:20:05.940 of calling this man

00:20:06.740 the reincarnation of Hitler,

00:20:08.660 the best they've got

00:20:09.780 to prove that Trump

00:20:10.840 is an authoritarian

00:20:11.680 beyond the pale

00:20:12.620 of normal American politics

00:20:13.980 is

00:20:14.440 some state

00:20:16.940 legislators

00:20:17.800 around the country

00:20:19.400 are

00:20:19.860 gerrymandering,

00:20:21.440 maybe.

00:20:22.880 Sort of things

00:20:23.560 that Democrats

00:20:24.120 have put Republicans

00:20:25.080 to shame to.

00:20:25.720 Look at the most

00:20:26.160 gerrymandered districts.

00:20:27.420 You will see consistently

00:20:28.660 it's the Democrat districts.

00:20:30.480 Republicans do it too,

00:20:31.360 but,

00:20:32.800 and it's their right

00:20:33.400 to do it,

00:20:33.800 by the way.

00:20:34.700 That's a right

00:20:35.400 that they have

00:20:36.020 as legislators.

00:20:37.480 That's the best

00:20:38.120 they got?

00:20:38.640 Okay.

00:20:39.520 Let's turn to other

00:20:40.460 supposed authoritarians.

00:20:42.800 Big news story,

00:20:43.880 you're going to hear it,

00:20:45.080 and since I'm one

00:20:45.960 of the big promoters

00:20:46.760 of this world leader,

00:20:47.940 I want to address it

00:20:49.900 on the show.

00:20:51.600 Naib Bukele,

00:20:52.560 my favorite

00:20:53.100 Latin American strongman,

00:20:55.740 Bukele is the leader

00:20:56.500 of El Salvador.

00:20:58.700 He has just

00:21:00.200 suspended term limits

00:21:02.740 in El Salvador

00:21:03.820 and slightly extended

00:21:05.740 the term

00:21:06.840 of the president's.

00:21:07.940 But,

00:21:09.460 he's suspended

00:21:10.220 term limits,

00:21:11.040 and this has everyone

00:21:11.800 saying he's a dictator.

00:21:13.620 He's an authoritarian

00:21:14.700 dictator

00:21:15.620 because he can run

00:21:16.500 for re-election.

00:21:18.200 Someone posted,

00:21:19.120 some guy,

00:21:19.740 I don't know,

00:21:20.140 it's probably not even

00:21:20.820 a real guy,

00:21:21.260 it's probably just

00:21:21.600 some operative

00:21:22.280 Twitter account.

00:21:23.280 He says,

00:21:23.760 if you admire

00:21:25.220 the man on the left,

00:21:26.400 that's Naib Bukele,

00:21:27.740 more than the man

00:21:28.820 on the right,

00:21:29.960 that's Ukraine's

00:21:30.740 Vladimir Zelensky,

00:21:32.120 you're not a conservative,

00:21:34.560 you're an authoritarian.

00:21:36.460 If you like

00:21:37.380 the leader

00:21:38.160 of El Salvador

00:21:38.820 more than you like

00:21:41.260 the leader

00:21:42.180 of Ukraine,

00:21:43.400 you're not a conservative,

00:21:45.060 you're an authoritarian.

00:21:46.600 This is a hilarious line

00:21:48.380 because

00:21:50.040 only one of these men

00:21:52.620 holds elections.

00:21:53.840 Can you tell me

00:21:55.460 which one it is?

00:21:56.760 I'm going to tell

00:21:57.780 this random Twitter account.

00:22:00.460 It's not the guy

00:22:01.460 on the right.

00:22:01.880 It's actually

00:22:03.600 the authoritarian,

00:22:04.740 awful,

00:22:05.200 fascist,

00:22:05.780 dictator,

00:22:06.560 right wing,

00:22:07.460 whatever.

00:22:08.400 He holds elections.

00:22:10.760 The guy on the right

00:22:12.500 does not,

00:22:13.100 Vladimir Zelensky.

00:22:14.580 So that's the first part.

00:22:17.460 What of getting rid

00:22:18.880 of term limits?

00:22:19.760 Do you know who else

00:22:20.560 campaigned tirelessly

00:22:22.960 to repeal term limits

00:22:25.260 on presidents?

00:22:26.200 Ronald Reagan.

00:22:29.260 All these guys,

00:22:30.420 all these people

00:22:30.940 who insist

00:22:31.840 in this really

00:22:33.000 pedantic,

00:22:34.820 condescending,

00:22:36.280 nebbishy kind of way

00:22:37.400 of the true conservative.

00:22:40.920 You know,

00:22:41.120 I'm a true conservative.

00:22:42.320 That's why I support

00:22:43.200 whatever the liberals

00:22:43.980 want to do in Ukraine

00:22:45.260 or anywhere else

00:22:46.020 because I'm a true conservative.

00:22:47.980 I practically support

00:22:49.280 open borders

00:22:49.780 because I'm a true conservative.

00:22:51.040 Okay.

00:22:52.160 Okay.

00:22:53.440 Well,

00:22:53.920 hold on.

00:22:54.260 Now you're a true conservative

00:22:55.420 because you insist

00:22:58.480 upon term limits

00:22:59.980 for presidents.

00:23:01.360 But all those

00:23:02.120 true conservative conservatives,

00:23:03.820 they all talk about

00:23:04.700 Ronald Reagan

00:23:05.340 as though he were

00:23:06.120 an actual canonized saint,

00:23:08.920 St. Gipper.

00:23:10.700 And yet,

00:23:11.140 Ronald Reagan,

00:23:12.400 by the end

00:23:12.920 of his presidential term,

00:23:14.720 into his early retirement,

00:23:16.620 which was unfortunately

00:23:17.540 interrupted by

00:23:18.500 an Alzheimer's diagnosis,

00:23:19.780 but from the end

00:23:22.360 of his second term

00:23:23.180 through the rest

00:23:24.740 of his public life,

00:23:26.300 Ronald Reagan

00:23:26.860 campaigned tirelessly

00:23:28.180 to repeal term limits

00:23:29.660 because there is

00:23:30.720 a term limit.

00:23:31.800 I break with some

00:23:32.780 of my right-wingers

00:23:33.440 when they insist

00:23:33.880 on term limits

00:23:34.460 for Congress

00:23:34.960 or the Senate

00:23:35.480 or for the president even.

00:23:39.600 I see why they want

00:23:40.940 the term limits

00:23:41.820 because they think

00:23:42.560 that these people

00:23:43.240 can be corrupt.

00:23:44.000 That's obviously true.

00:23:45.520 I just think

00:23:46.080 what they fail to see

00:23:46.980 is that

00:23:47.440 when you insist

00:23:49.480 upon these term limits,

00:23:50.420 all you do

00:23:50.880 is empower

00:23:51.380 the staffers

00:23:52.180 and the lobbyists

00:23:52.960 who can be even

00:23:53.720 more corrupt

00:23:54.220 than the electeds.

00:23:55.440 I'm with Reagan.

00:23:56.900 I'm with Reagan

00:23:57.940 and Bukele

00:23:59.240 and all the actual

00:24:01.040 real conservatives

00:24:01.740 who,

00:24:04.420 one,

00:24:05.840 who have,

00:24:06.400 who support

00:24:06.820 practical matters

00:24:07.840 in elections

00:24:08.880 and lowercase d

00:24:10.440 democratic politics,

00:24:11.580 but who also realize

00:24:12.640 that there is

00:24:13.280 more to politics

00:24:14.480 than just procedure.

00:24:15.400 There are substantive

00:24:16.000 goods.

00:24:17.680 And if your

00:24:18.300 political ideology

00:24:19.800 leads you to ignore

00:24:20.740 substantive goods

00:24:21.660 in favor of some

00:24:22.560 abstract procedure,

00:24:23.880 then maybe you're not

00:24:25.260 quite as conservative

00:24:25.980 as you think.

00:24:26.940 That's just my view.

00:24:27.780 Okay,

00:24:28.100 speaking of presidents,

00:24:29.260 great,

00:24:30.100 great announcement

00:24:30.880 from the White House.

00:24:31.940 The libs

00:24:32.560 are furious.

00:24:34.480 The panicans

00:24:35.640 are humiliated.

00:24:37.040 The plan trusters

00:24:38.000 such as myself

00:24:38.900 totally vindicated.

00:24:40.420 We will talk about

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00:25:59.080 I love this news story.

00:26:03.020 This is kind of a niche

00:26:04.160 news story,

00:26:05.120 but if you know,

00:26:06.580 you know.

00:26:07.560 If you know,

00:26:08.380 you know.

00:26:09.400 I'm just going to read it

00:26:10.360 directly from the

00:26:11.160 Washington Post,

00:26:11.820 which is freaking out

00:26:12.600 about this.

00:26:14.240 The White House

00:26:15.180 has no current plans

00:26:17.220 to mandate

00:26:18.420 insurance coverage

00:26:19.700 for in vitro

00:26:21.340 fertilization.

00:26:24.700 I love this.

00:26:25.680 I know there are going

00:26:26.080 to be many people

00:26:26.580 listening to this show

00:26:27.240 who support in vitro fertilization.

00:26:29.400 Even if you do support

00:26:30.600 in vitro fertilization,

00:26:31.720 do you really think

00:26:32.640 that the White House

00:26:34.860 should be mandating

00:26:36.240 that insurers

00:26:37.540 cover it,

00:26:38.360 meaning mandating

00:26:39.420 that people

00:26:40.120 who disagree

00:26:41.600 with in vitro fertilization,

00:26:43.020 who believe

00:26:43.500 that in vitro fertilization

00:26:44.560 is immoral,

00:26:45.340 that they be forced

00:26:46.580 to spend their money

00:26:47.640 to pay for IVF?

00:26:51.060 Come on.

00:26:52.680 This is a big win.

00:26:54.320 Look how upset

00:26:55.120 the Washington Post

00:26:55.800 is over this.

00:26:56.380 Look at the commentary

00:26:57.700 around this article

00:26:58.580 on social media.

00:26:59.800 It'll show you

00:27:00.320 what side of this

00:27:00.840 you should be on.

00:27:01.360 This is a great move

00:27:02.360 from the White House.

00:27:03.260 Major win for bioethics.

00:27:05.260 Good policy move.

00:27:06.840 Good win for pro-lifers,

00:27:08.340 especially.

00:27:10.140 Because I see why people,

00:27:12.120 I see why people support IVF.

00:27:14.240 We all know someone

00:27:15.300 at this point,

00:27:15.880 or at least know someone

00:27:16.640 who knows someone

00:27:17.140 who was conceived by IVF.

00:27:20.600 And we are tempted,

00:27:22.220 not at a rational level,

00:27:23.180 but at an emotional level,

00:27:23.960 to say,

00:27:24.180 well, I like that

00:27:24.940 my friend exists,

00:27:25.560 so I have to support IVF.

00:27:27.340 Well, my sister

00:27:28.000 couldn't conceive,

00:27:29.420 allegedly.

00:27:30.180 And so,

00:27:30.960 she needed IVF,

00:27:32.120 allegedly.

00:27:32.600 Again, I'm a little skeptical

00:27:33.440 because the minute

00:27:34.740 you have fertility issues,

00:27:35.880 you go to a fertility clinic,

00:27:36.780 they try to sell you IVF.

00:27:38.360 And having gone through

00:27:40.580 fertility struggles

00:27:41.780 for a couple years,

00:27:42.800 they were constantly

00:27:43.420 trying to sell us IVF.

00:27:44.400 We said,

00:27:44.760 no, we're not doing that.

00:27:45.680 Two years later,

00:27:46.420 happily,

00:27:47.380 we were able to get a kid.

00:27:48.720 It doesn't work out

00:27:49.300 for everybody,

00:27:49.780 but a lot of people

00:27:51.800 are told they need IVF

00:27:53.320 and they don't really yet.

00:27:54.640 They haven't exhausted

00:27:55.300 the other options,

00:27:56.560 but even beyond

00:27:57.460 these practical considerations.

00:27:59.360 Let's just take

00:28:00.120 that argument on its head.

00:28:02.300 My nephew wouldn't exist

00:28:03.920 without IVF.

00:28:04.800 Therefore,

00:28:05.740 I have to support IVF

00:28:06.940 and you're crazy

00:28:07.480 if you don't support IVF.

00:28:08.560 Okay.

00:28:10.080 Do you agree?

00:28:13.140 Do you concede

00:28:14.000 that while kids are good,

00:28:17.120 it's good to have kids,

00:28:18.000 do you concede

00:28:19.640 that there are some methods

00:28:21.120 of conception

00:28:21.920 that are immoral?

00:28:24.680 Yes.

00:28:25.600 Everyone would concede that.

00:28:28.280 Rape is a method

00:28:29.880 of conception

00:28:30.460 that is immoral.

00:28:31.600 No one would justify rape.

00:28:32.660 No one would say

00:28:33.020 rape should be legal.

00:28:33.840 No one should say

00:28:34.500 taxpayers should subsidize rape.

00:28:36.600 But,

00:28:37.220 hey,

00:28:37.460 I know someone

00:28:38.580 who was conceived in rape.

00:28:39.920 I know multiple people

00:28:40.620 who were conceived in rape.

00:28:42.600 Doesn't mean those people

00:28:43.460 don't have a right to life.

00:28:44.300 Doesn't mean they don't have

00:28:44.900 the same human dignity

00:28:45.760 as everybody else.

00:28:46.480 Doesn't mean that it's

00:28:47.080 not good that they

00:28:47.940 exist.

00:28:48.360 Doesn't mean any of that stuff.

00:28:49.780 But,

00:28:50.980 likewise,

00:28:53.660 no one would justify

00:28:54.980 the means of their conception.

00:28:56.420 We can be happy

00:28:56.960 for their existence,

00:28:57.900 but we don't need to

00:28:58.600 try to justify

00:28:59.720 the means of their conception

00:29:00.760 when it's obviously immoral.

00:29:02.540 What's another

00:29:03.220 immoral means

00:29:04.040 of procreation?

00:29:05.660 Incest.

00:29:06.220 I don't know.

00:29:06.580 The list goes on and on.

00:29:07.860 So,

00:29:08.120 if you grant

00:29:08.920 that in principle,

00:29:12.180 you know,

00:29:12.480 my nephew

00:29:13.160 wouldn't exist

00:29:13.660 with IVF

00:29:14.260 is not a sufficient

00:29:16.760 argument

00:29:17.820 for IVF

00:29:19.920 because you grant

00:29:21.600 in principle

00:29:22.540 that there are

00:29:23.880 some methods

00:29:24.480 of conception

00:29:25.020 that are immoral,

00:29:26.920 then you need to come up

00:29:27.900 with another argument.

00:29:30.100 And I don't think

00:29:30.840 you can

00:29:31.300 because,

00:29:33.780 this is no knock

00:29:34.500 on people

00:29:34.820 who support IVF.

00:29:35.580 this is a novel

00:29:38.240 technology

00:29:39.220 and a novel

00:29:39.740 moral issue

00:29:40.340 that most people

00:29:41.200 have not even

00:29:41.660 really had the opportunity

00:29:42.680 to consider deeply.

00:29:45.180 But when you think

00:29:46.080 about what IVF entails,

00:29:47.580 practically speaking,

00:29:49.100 practically speaking,

00:29:50.180 it entails

00:29:50.700 the murder

00:29:52.040 of a lot of people

00:29:52.860 because it entails

00:29:54.420 making a lot

00:29:55.020 of human beings

00:29:55.720 in little Petri dishes

00:29:56.920 and test tubes

00:29:57.540 and then either

00:29:58.380 killing them

00:29:59.020 immediately

00:29:59.540 or freezing them

00:30:00.680 for a long time

00:30:01.240 and then killing them

00:30:02.020 or

00:30:02.440 if you are pro-life,

00:30:06.300 if you think

00:30:06.520 life begins

00:30:06.960 at conception,

00:30:08.460 you cannot possibly

00:30:09.500 support IVF.

00:30:10.440 IVF

00:30:10.880 drastically

00:30:12.480 increases

00:30:13.060 the number

00:30:13.380 of abortions

00:30:14.000 by orders

00:30:15.440 of magnitude.

00:30:16.660 It doesn't make

00:30:17.620 any sense.

00:30:18.580 Beyond that,

00:30:19.140 though,

00:30:19.320 what else

00:30:19.660 does IVF do?

00:30:20.620 IVF commoditizes

00:30:21.440 human life.

00:30:22.000 It means you can

00:30:22.340 go to the baby store

00:30:22.960 and buy a baby.

00:30:24.240 Not even just

00:30:24.820 buy a baby,

00:30:25.400 order a baby.

00:30:26.580 Custom order a baby.

00:30:27.740 I want the baby

00:30:28.480 to be this sex.

00:30:29.980 I want the baby

00:30:30.640 to have this kind

00:30:31.480 of genetic background.

00:30:33.360 Soon enough,

00:30:34.220 I want the baby

00:30:34.900 to be likely

00:30:35.840 to be this tall,

00:30:36.840 have this colorized,

00:30:37.800 have these.

00:30:38.520 That's commoditizing

00:30:39.420 human life,

00:30:40.000 but human beings

00:30:40.800 are not commodities

00:30:41.420 to be bought and sold

00:30:42.180 on an open market.

00:30:43.040 This is a question

00:30:43.700 that we were supposed

00:30:44.260 to have resolved

00:30:44.720 a while ago.

00:30:46.140 That's another problem.

00:30:47.880 IVF establishes

00:30:48.880 the domination

00:30:49.260 of science and technology

00:30:50.260 over the origin

00:30:51.180 and destiny

00:30:51.940 of human life.

00:30:53.600 Do you have the right

00:30:54.320 for every generation

00:30:55.420 that follows you

00:30:56.200 to engineer them

00:30:59.140 as though they were

00:30:59.780 your science experiment

00:31:00.900 rather than

00:31:02.820 begotten of you?

00:31:06.040 Rather than

00:31:06.780 the sort of thing

00:31:07.480 that proceeds from you

00:31:08.720 that you do not control

00:31:09.700 but is a subject

00:31:10.760 with proper rights?

00:31:11.920 Of course not.

00:31:13.780 There are many

00:31:14.460 more things to say

00:31:15.640 about IVF.

00:31:17.120 I'll leave it there

00:31:17.820 as people are considering

00:31:18.980 these bioethical implications.

00:31:20.200 And end

00:31:22.360 on the point

00:31:23.540 of the administration.

00:31:24.320 I'll just point out

00:31:24.860 some of my fellow

00:31:27.340 pro-lifers,

00:31:28.320 some of my fellow

00:31:29.260 social conservatives,

00:31:31.800 bioethical conservatives,

00:31:33.120 they've railed

00:31:34.460 against Trump.

00:31:36.260 Trump is,

00:31:37.160 oh, he's turning his back

00:31:38.080 on the pro-lifers.

00:31:39.000 Oh, he's supporting abortion.

00:31:40.320 Oh, he's supporting IVF.

00:31:41.580 Oh, he's doing this.

00:31:42.420 Oh, he's doing that.

00:31:42.900 And I just said,

00:31:43.400 yo, guys,

00:31:44.240 yo, yo.

00:31:47.400 He's the most successful

00:31:48.340 pro-life president

00:31:49.040 in my lifetime.

00:31:49.640 He's the first one

00:31:50.400 to show up to the

00:31:50.880 March for Life

00:31:51.440 in person.

00:31:52.760 He's the one

00:31:53.340 who got Roe v. Wade

00:31:54.120 overturned.

00:31:55.520 He's got a good record.

00:31:57.080 And so if he says something,

00:31:58.260 he sends some tweet,

00:31:59.200 he mentions something

00:31:59.760 on the campaign trail,

00:32:00.800 how about you just chill

00:32:01.700 and give the guy

00:32:02.200 a little bit of grace

00:32:02.860 because he's been

00:32:03.460 your biggest advocate

00:32:04.700 you've ever had

00:32:05.620 in the White House.

00:32:07.160 And how about you just

00:32:08.080 maybe give him

00:32:08.740 a little bit of grace

00:32:09.540 because he keeps

00:32:10.800 doing the right thing,

00:32:12.140 even if sometimes

00:32:12.900 the way he talks about it

00:32:13.760 is confusing.

00:32:16.520 Panicans,

00:32:17.060 yet again,

00:32:17.720 on so many issues,

00:32:18.420 on immigration,

00:32:19.020 on trade,

00:32:20.140 on war,

00:32:21.100 on now on bioethics.

00:32:24.300 Panicans,

00:32:24.980 humiliated,

00:32:26.160 I'm happy to say.

00:32:27.960 Plan trusters,

00:32:28.920 yet again,

00:32:31.000 vindicated.

00:32:31.680 Okay,

00:32:32.020 speaking of bioethics

00:32:32.940 and life and death,

00:32:34.100 this is an amazing

00:32:35.080 about face

00:32:35.700 from the New York Times.

00:32:39.540 Headline from

00:32:40.200 the New York Times.

00:32:41.560 No, hold on.

00:32:42.140 You know what?

00:32:42.460 First,

00:32:42.980 first I'm going to read you

00:32:43.800 a headline that I read

00:32:44.740 on the show

00:32:45.280 a couple weeks ago

00:32:46.380 or something.

00:32:47.420 Here it is.

00:32:48.400 A push for more

00:32:49.420 organ transplants

00:32:50.460 is putting donors

00:32:51.400 at risk.

00:32:53.280 Remember this?

00:32:53.940 I covered this story

00:32:54.540 a week or two ago.

00:32:55.580 People across the United States

00:32:56.580 have endured rushed

00:32:57.280 or premature attempts

00:32:58.040 to remove their organs.

00:32:58.860 Some were gasping,

00:32:59.660 crying,

00:33:00.000 or showing other signs

00:33:00.680 of life.

00:33:01.080 So saying,

00:33:01.640 hey,

00:33:02.280 you check the box

00:33:03.060 on your driver's license

00:33:04.600 and then,

00:33:05.520 you know,

00:33:06.220 you get into a car accident.

00:33:07.300 Your kid gets into

00:33:07.860 a car accident.

00:33:08.660 He's there,

00:33:09.140 he's on life support,

00:33:09.900 and then these scavengers

00:33:11.700 go in and cut him open

00:33:13.100 and take his organs out.

00:33:14.260 And he might be twitching,

00:33:15.240 he might be making sounds,

00:33:16.320 he might be crying,

00:33:17.300 saying don't do that.

00:33:17.960 But they say,

00:33:18.680 no,

00:33:18.820 it's a natural reaction,

00:33:19.940 he's not really alive,

00:33:20.800 whatever,

00:33:21.020 they take his organs out.

00:33:22.020 And I've pointed out

00:33:23.240 for a long time

00:33:23.920 that this is pretty sus

00:33:27.220 because it's based

00:33:29.460 not on actual death

00:33:31.200 but on so-called brain death,

00:33:32.880 which is a dubious definition

00:33:34.360 that came up in the 1960s

00:33:35.800 to deal with

00:33:36.900 emerging technologies

00:33:39.120 and ideologies

00:33:39.820 like this.

00:33:40.780 But that,

00:33:41.480 you know,

00:33:41.740 death is when the soul

00:33:42.560 leaves the body.

00:33:43.960 That's what death is

00:33:45.040 from a classical

00:33:46.980 and medieval perspective.

00:33:49.480 And brain death

00:33:50.780 isn't really that,

00:33:53.060 doesn't really seem like that.

00:33:54.540 And so I said,

00:33:55.040 this is a slippery slope,

00:33:56.480 this is really bad.

00:33:57.360 Not only were

00:33:58.200 social and bioethical

00:34:00.100 conservatives like me

00:34:00.900 saying this,

00:34:01.780 this got so bad

00:34:02.540 even the New York Times

00:34:03.200 said it.

00:34:03.800 And then,

00:34:04.280 what,

00:34:04.460 two weeks later,

00:34:06.280 July 20,

00:34:06.740 no,

00:34:06.940 10 days later,

00:34:08.060 July 20th to July 30th.

00:34:09.820 Opinion essay,

00:34:12.060 donor organs are rare.

00:34:14.160 We need a new definition

00:34:15.060 of death.

00:34:19.980 The New York Times

00:34:20.980 admitting,

00:34:22.620 hey,

00:34:22.920 we're harvesting organs

00:34:24.020 from living people.

00:34:25.980 That's kind of scary,

00:34:27.080 right?

00:34:27.960 New York Times 10 days later,

00:34:29.320 hey,

00:34:29.520 we need to harvest more organs

00:34:30.820 from living people.

00:34:32.060 Give me your organs.

00:34:33.100 That was fast.

00:34:35.980 But of course,

00:34:36.980 that is the inevitable consequence

00:34:38.540 of consequentialist ethics.

00:34:41.080 That is the inevitable consequence

00:34:43.160 of utilitarianism.

00:34:45.460 Well,

00:34:45.900 you know,

00:34:46.120 look,

00:34:47.260 you're all roughed up

00:34:48.080 from this car accident.

00:34:49.300 You might be in a wheelchair

00:34:50.160 the rest of your life.

00:34:51.260 Who knows?

00:34:51.760 You might not even wake up.

00:34:52.880 And we could give your organ

00:34:54.420 to somebody

00:34:55.200 who will walk

00:34:57.100 for the rest of his life.

00:34:58.180 So isn't it worth it?

00:34:59.040 Doesn't he deserve your organ?

00:35:00.960 That's how we think about it.

00:35:03.000 That's how the New York Times

00:35:04.440 thinks about it now.

00:35:06.940 This is what happens

00:35:07.980 when we tell lies.

00:35:11.360 Our present understanding

00:35:13.160 of brain death

00:35:14.480 is a lie

00:35:15.920 because,

00:35:17.840 at least some of the time,

00:35:19.260 it's not really death.

00:35:21.400 So a thing that is not death,

00:35:22.920 we call death

00:35:23.580 and we act as though it is death.

00:35:24.680 And we do that

00:35:25.380 in order to

00:35:26.620 be able to accrue

00:35:28.100 some of the benefits

00:35:28.960 that we get from

00:35:30.040 people's actual death.

00:35:33.040 And give the,

00:35:33.520 and it can be

00:35:34.300 for the best of intentions

00:35:35.180 because you want to save

00:35:36.020 some kid who needs

00:35:37.300 an organ transplant

00:35:37.980 or something.

00:35:38.560 It can be for the best

00:35:39.580 of intentions.

00:35:40.460 The road to hell

00:35:41.040 is paved with good intentions.

00:35:43.380 And this is it.

00:35:44.440 It is,

00:35:45.640 just keep this image

00:35:46.680 seared in your mind.

00:35:47.860 Because when we talk

00:35:48.600 about the slippery slope,

00:35:50.440 when we talk about,

00:35:51.440 oh, well, you know,

00:35:52.120 if you make this moral compromise

00:35:54.100 and you do this

00:35:55.200 immoral thing here,

00:35:56.260 it's going to lead

00:35:57.340 down the road

00:35:58.080 to bad consequences,

00:35:59.680 people say,

00:36:00.320 oh, forget about

00:36:00.940 your slippery slope.

00:36:03.280 Ten days, kids.

00:36:04.720 Ten days.

00:36:05.900 Wow.

00:36:06.980 A push for more

00:36:08.080 organ transplants

00:36:08.880 is putting donors

00:36:09.580 at risk of having

00:36:10.380 their organs harvested

00:36:11.180 while they're living.

00:36:13.460 We need to harvest

00:36:14.420 their organs

00:36:14.840 while they're living.

00:36:17.160 Same paper.

00:36:18.660 Ten days.

00:36:20.200 Now,

00:36:20.820 speaking of the liberal media,

00:36:21.840 a major liberal media journalist

00:36:24.560 has left

00:36:25.320 the Washington Post

00:36:26.440 and the reason why

00:36:28.340 is just delicious.

00:36:29.960 You've asked

00:36:30.540 for years

00:36:31.680 in thousands of comments.

00:36:33.300 Yes,

00:36:33.540 we actually read them,

00:36:34.540 at least some of them.

00:36:35.460 When is Jordan

00:36:36.220 going to answer

00:36:36.920 our questions again?

00:36:38.300 Not celebrities,

00:36:39.160 not headlines,

00:36:39.800 just real people

00:36:40.420 with real problems

00:36:41.080 looking for real answers.

00:36:42.880 Now he is.

00:36:43.960 Jordan B. Peterson's

00:36:44.720 new series,

00:36:45.300 Answer the Call,

00:36:46.160 is going back

00:36:46.720 to where this all started,

00:36:47.700 to speak directly

00:36:48.420 to the people

00:36:48.940 who need it most.

00:36:50.320 You.

00:36:51.160 This is your chance

00:36:51.880 to ask Jordan

00:36:52.500 questions that keep you

00:36:53.500 up at night.

00:36:54.340 Get new episodes

00:36:55.080 of Answer the Call

00:36:55.900 every Monday

00:36:56.720 on the Jordan B. Peterson podcast.

00:37:00.540 My favorite comment yesterday

00:37:01.320 is from LMS2379

00:37:03.000 who says,

00:37:03.620 Michael successfully injects

00:37:05.140 common sense

00:37:05.940 into philosophy.

00:37:07.000 That's very kind of you

00:37:07.740 to say.

00:37:10.020 Philosophy

00:37:10.420 is common sense

00:37:13.180 and should be common sense

00:37:15.020 and was understood

00:37:15.640 to be common sense

00:37:16.460 for most of the history

00:37:18.840 of philosophy.

00:37:19.540 What was philosophy?

00:37:20.640 What is the original image

00:37:24.380 that we in the West

00:37:25.160 have of philosophy?

00:37:26.760 It's Socrates

00:37:27.720 walking around Athens

00:37:28.960 just talking to people,

00:37:30.760 talking to people

00:37:31.400 in a commonsensical way

00:37:32.620 and asking them questions.

00:37:34.120 That's what philosophy was.

00:37:35.500 That is actually

00:37:36.120 the ideal of philosophy.

00:37:38.960 And he wasn't

00:37:40.680 standing there

00:37:41.220 at a chalkboard.

00:37:42.080 He didn't use

00:37:43.120 a lot of jargon.

00:37:44.380 He wasn't writing

00:37:45.740 25,000 page books.

00:37:47.460 He was just walking around,

00:37:48.740 talking to normal people,

00:37:49.780 asking them questions.

00:37:51.640 And that was philosophy.

00:37:55.400 It was sometimes

00:37:56.340 more formalized,

00:37:57.260 especially into the scholastics.

00:37:58.320 But that basically

00:37:58.900 was philosophy

00:37:59.520 through antiquity,

00:38:00.560 through the Middle Ages

00:38:01.900 and the scholastics,

00:38:03.180 up until modernity.

00:38:05.260 And there was a big shift

00:38:06.560 here with Karl Marx

00:38:07.760 because Marx said,

00:38:09.440 philosophy has sought

00:38:10.320 to understand the world,

00:38:11.100 but I want to change the world

00:38:12.080 in the 11th thesis

00:38:13.160 on Feuerbach.

00:38:14.180 But it's not just Marx,

00:38:15.940 and it actually predates

00:38:16.720 Marx a little bit.

00:38:17.620 Philosophy starts to

00:38:18.820 get a little absurd,

00:38:20.780 get a little jargony,

00:38:22.200 get very, very abstract,

00:38:24.640 but abstract in a way

00:38:25.440 that's not merely

00:38:26.680 able to model reality,

00:38:30.800 but is actually

00:38:31.500 divorced from reality.

00:38:32.920 But real good philosophy

00:38:35.940 for most of this

00:38:36.580 degree of philosophy

00:38:37.220 has been complementary

00:38:39.520 complementary to common sense.

00:38:41.520 Okay.

00:38:42.380 Speaking of the liberal media,

00:38:43.580 Jonathan Capehart,

00:38:44.980 Jonathan Capehart

00:38:45.840 is leaving

00:38:46.820 the Washington Post.

00:38:48.740 He is a major

00:38:49.820 liberal journalist.

00:38:51.940 Here is why.

00:38:54.840 Folks will have noticed

00:38:55.960 that we introduced you

00:38:56.800 slightly differently tonight

00:38:57.840 than we usually do.

00:38:59.080 We should point out

00:38:59.680 after nearly two decades

00:39:01.280 at the Washington Post,

00:39:02.440 you recently made

00:39:03.200 the decision to leave.

00:39:04.280 I just wanted to give you

00:39:04.960 a chance to speak directly

00:39:05.960 to our audience

00:39:06.620 to tell them why.

00:39:07.480 Well, the direction

00:39:11.220 of the opinion section

00:39:13.060 changed.

00:39:14.360 Jeff Bezos,

00:39:15.180 the owner of

00:39:15.840 the Washington Post,

00:39:16.580 as is his right,

00:39:17.880 decided that he wanted

00:39:18.940 the section to focus

00:39:20.960 on the twin pillars

00:39:21.780 of personal liberties

00:39:23.400 and free markets.

00:39:25.180 And it became clear

00:39:26.720 as time went along,

00:39:27.840 and especially when he chose

00:39:29.120 a new leader

00:39:29.920 for the section,

00:39:31.160 that there was just

00:39:32.200 not going to be

00:39:33.220 any room

00:39:34.120 for a voice like mine,

00:39:35.940 especially when,

00:39:37.180 we were told

00:39:37.960 that we would have

00:39:38.660 to be unapologetically

00:39:39.920 patriotic

00:39:40.800 in talking about

00:39:41.440 the positive things

00:39:42.260 happening in the country.

00:39:44.320 So there it is.

00:39:46.420 Take out,

00:39:47.080 he says,

00:39:47.560 look,

00:39:47.820 I want the page

00:39:48.980 to be a little more

00:39:49.540 pro-free markets.

00:39:50.420 Okay, whatever.

00:39:51.240 But pages have a slant,

00:39:53.280 and some people

00:39:53.900 disagree with it,

00:39:54.740 and I don't,

00:39:56.000 you see what really

00:39:56.760 gets him riled up here.

00:39:58.600 You saw the ask

00:39:59.760 that was simply too great.

00:40:01.840 That's when he said,

00:40:02.680 hey, journalists,

00:40:04.360 you need to be patriotic.

00:40:06.000 You need to,

00:40:08.440 he asked two things.

00:40:09.820 He said,

00:40:10.480 you need to be patriotic,

00:40:11.800 and you need to talk

00:40:13.700 about positive things

00:40:15.420 about the country.

00:40:17.100 I don't even think

00:40:17.500 he said exclusively,

00:40:18.540 but he just,

00:40:19.500 sometimes,

00:40:20.920 you have to make

00:40:22.460 any positive observation

00:40:24.760 about the country,

00:40:25.580 and you have to love

00:40:27.440 your country,

00:40:28.020 not hate your country.

00:40:29.100 That was too much

00:40:31.460 to ask.

00:40:32.740 This guy,

00:40:33.420 Jonathan Capehart,

00:40:33.920 I'm out.

00:40:34.760 I have to be a patriot?

00:40:36.460 I'm out.

00:40:38.020 I have to say

00:40:39.040 any positive thing

00:40:40.460 about America

00:40:41.020 ever even once?

00:40:43.060 Nope.

00:40:43.840 I would rather

00:40:44.600 lose my job

00:40:46.080 than do such a thing.

00:40:50.380 Is it too much?

00:40:50.900 There are going to be

00:40:51.300 some people who say,

00:40:52.360 well,

00:40:52.660 actually,

00:40:53.200 a journalist should be

00:40:53.920 totally neutral

00:40:54.540 and above everything

00:40:55.380 and indifferent to all,

00:40:56.920 and he just needs,

00:40:58.080 he can't be a patriot.

00:40:59.320 Good grief.

00:41:00.460 No one can be neutral

00:41:01.760 about everything.

00:41:02.540 We're not blank slates.

00:41:04.320 We're not a tabula rasa.

00:41:06.420 We're human beings.

00:41:08.900 We have desires.

00:41:10.200 We have prejudices.

00:41:11.280 We have affections.

00:41:12.720 We have loyalties.

00:41:13.600 We have bonds of kinship.

00:41:14.720 We have countries.

00:41:17.820 You can tell the truth

00:41:19.680 while being a human being.

00:41:24.960 It is possible.

00:41:27.140 Can liberal journalists

00:41:27.960 tell the truth?

00:41:28.680 No.

00:41:30.020 And they go even further.

00:41:31.040 They can't even tell the truth

00:41:31.820 about being human beings.

00:41:32.780 Okay.

00:41:33.400 Well, he's out.

00:41:34.120 See ya.

00:41:35.940 I've got to get to

00:41:36.960 the story that I wanted to avoid.

00:41:40.720 Cynthia Erivo.

00:41:43.040 Cynthia Erivo.

00:41:44.940 She's this actress.

00:41:47.020 Looks a little bit funny sometimes.

00:41:49.480 She's an actress.

00:41:50.060 I'm not commenting even

00:41:51.220 on her natural appearance.

00:41:52.200 I'm saying she sometimes

00:41:53.440 in performances,

00:41:54.540 she has really long,

00:41:55.920 pointy, scary nails.

00:41:57.660 Lots of tons of,

00:41:58.680 tons of piercings

00:42:01.200 and kind of hunched over.

00:42:02.520 And that's,

00:42:03.140 that's how Cynthia Erivo,

00:42:05.860 a woman,

00:42:06.940 decided that she would play

00:42:08.680 Christ

00:42:10.460 in Jesus Christ Superstar

00:42:12.340 at the Hollywood Bowl.

00:42:13.100 I've been waiting for you.

00:42:16.720 Yeah!

00:42:18.760 I've been waiting for you.

00:42:21.260 Yeah!

00:42:22.800 Every time I look at you,

00:42:25.920 I don't understand

00:42:28.480 why you love the things you did

00:42:34.440 get so out of hand.

00:42:39.120 You'd manage better

00:42:40.620 if you had

00:42:42.780 my blood.

00:42:45.820 Oh!

00:42:54.920 That's enough.

00:42:55.680 That's all I need

00:42:56.320 of the,

00:42:56.900 of the performance.

00:42:59.060 You know,

00:42:59.320 the one thing I'll say

00:43:00.000 for Cynthia Erivo,

00:43:00.840 she is striking looking.

00:43:02.620 So,

00:43:03.200 which is helpful

00:43:03.920 for actors.

00:43:04.580 It is,

00:43:04.880 and the brand

00:43:05.260 of striking looking.

00:43:06.060 Okay.

00:43:07.200 What does the director say?

00:43:10.400 Cynthia's brilliant.

00:43:11.140 Her voice,

00:43:11.720 presence,

00:43:12.180 and simultaneous power

00:43:13.260 and vulnerability

00:43:13.820 absolutely blows my mind.

00:43:15.160 Working with her

00:43:15.760 has been a dream.

00:43:16.420 I'm excited

00:43:16.960 by the challenge

00:43:17.800 of presenting

00:43:18.580 the audience

00:43:19.040 with a production

00:43:19.780 led by a female

00:43:20.760 black Jesus

00:43:21.900 and encourage the audience

00:43:23.640 to expand their minds a bit.

00:43:25.880 Originally utilizing

00:43:27.200 rock and roll,

00:43:28.040 Jesus Christ Superstar

00:43:28.880 is supposed to provoke

00:43:29.720 and challenge.

00:43:30.340 That's the point.

00:43:31.380 And shouldn't the teachings

00:43:32.040 of Jesus transcend gender?

00:43:35.060 And this is going to convince

00:43:36.180 some Christians

00:43:37.180 because obviously

00:43:40.000 Christ's teachings,

00:43:41.480 well,

00:43:41.720 it's not that they

00:43:42.160 transcend gender.

00:43:43.400 It's that they speak

00:43:44.400 to both genders.

00:43:45.500 They speak to men

00:43:46.120 and to women.

00:43:48.160 But even if,

00:43:51.180 let's just grant the premise

00:43:52.680 that Christ's teaching

00:43:54.420 transcends gender.

00:43:57.000 Christ does not transcend gender.

00:43:59.660 And this is a real

00:44:00.740 stumbling block for people.

00:44:03.780 Christ does not transcend gender

00:44:06.340 in that Christ is a man.

00:44:09.060 Christ has a holy mother,

00:44:10.380 the Virgin Mary.

00:44:12.740 It's not,

00:44:13.180 the whole story

00:44:13.600 isn't all just men,

00:44:14.280 but Christ is a man.

00:44:16.860 And this is the part

00:44:18.260 that is just impossible

00:44:21.040 for people to understand.

00:44:24.240 This has been,

00:44:25.740 and especially in the

00:44:28.200 fullest extent

00:44:29.420 in the crucifixion,

00:44:30.600 this has been

00:44:31.320 a stumbling block

00:44:32.600 in foolishness.

00:44:34.340 This is,

00:44:35.180 just to quote,

00:44:35.800 1 Corinthians chapter 1,

00:44:37.420 20 to 25.

00:44:38.380 Where is the wise man?

00:44:39.160 Where is the scribe?

00:44:39.780 Where is the debater

00:44:40.380 of his age,

00:44:41.000 of this age?

00:44:42.600 Has not God made foolish

00:44:44.100 the wisdom of the world?

00:44:45.300 For since in the wisdom of God

00:44:46.560 the world did not know God

00:44:47.900 through wisdom,

00:44:48.580 it pleased God

00:44:49.340 through the folly

00:44:49.980 of what we preach

00:44:50.700 to save those who believe.

00:44:52.160 For Jews demand signs

00:44:53.500 and Greeks seek wisdom.

00:44:55.140 But we preach

00:44:56.140 Christ crucified,

00:44:57.780 a stumbling block

00:44:58.740 to Jews

00:44:59.340 and folly

00:45:00.520 to Gentiles.

00:45:01.740 But to those who are called,

00:45:03.020 both Jews and Greeks,

00:45:04.040 Christ the power of God

00:45:05.040 and the wisdom of God.

00:45:06.240 For the foolishness of God

00:45:07.360 is wiser than men

00:45:08.340 and the weakness of God

00:45:09.580 is stronger than men.

00:45:10.680 This is the key here.

00:45:13.000 Here,

00:45:13.560 St. Paul is writing

00:45:14.220 about the crucifixion,

00:45:15.360 but we can extend this

00:45:16.780 even to the whole

00:45:17.960 of the incarnation.

00:45:19.120 This is a stumbling block

00:45:20.300 to Jews

00:45:20.960 because

00:45:22.760 in the Jewish understanding,

00:45:25.760 God's not supposed

00:45:26.360 to be a man.

00:45:28.820 This is folly

00:45:29.920 to Gentiles.

00:45:30.620 This is ridiculous

00:45:31.880 to Gentiles.

00:45:33.400 Not just that,

00:45:34.580 as St. Paul is describing,

00:45:35.620 that God can be crucified,

00:45:37.500 but how can God

00:45:38.400 be crucified?

00:45:38.780 Because God

00:45:39.360 has a human nature

00:45:40.780 in Christ.

00:45:43.280 A divine nature

00:45:44.240 and a human nature

00:45:45.080 together.

00:45:47.720 And that means

00:45:49.020 Christ is a man,

00:45:50.180 which means

00:45:50.840 he looked like something.

00:45:51.820 And he didn't look like Cynthia.

00:45:52.740 He looks like something,

00:45:53.760 I should say.

00:45:55.380 But during his sojourn

00:45:56.600 on earth,

00:45:57.040 he looked a certain way.

00:45:59.000 Glorified body

00:45:59.620 looks a little bit different too,

00:46:00.780 but in the resurrection.

00:46:02.320 But

00:46:02.500 he doesn't look like Cynthia Erivo.

00:46:05.160 He does in the sense

00:46:05.900 that we're all human beings.

00:46:07.100 But he

00:46:07.840 is a certain height.

00:46:09.940 He's a certain sex.

00:46:11.360 He has certain hair.

00:46:12.820 He is a certain race.

00:46:14.780 He is,

00:46:15.440 he's particular.

00:46:16.860 There is a particularity

00:46:18.120 to God.

00:46:20.060 That is

00:46:21.020 a fact

00:46:22.420 of the Christian faith.

00:46:23.520 A fact revealed

00:46:24.480 in the Christian faith.

00:46:25.440 That is

00:46:26.300 a stumbling block

00:46:27.700 to Jews

00:46:28.100 and folly

00:46:28.520 to Gentiles.

00:46:30.100 And all these people,

00:46:30.940 these directors,

00:46:31.860 oh,

00:46:32.380 how wise they are.

00:46:33.200 Imagine though,

00:46:34.020 what if

00:46:34.720 Christ

00:46:35.880 were

00:46:36.800 Cynthia Erivo?

00:46:38.340 And again,

00:46:38.820 not just,

00:46:39.260 it's not even just about

00:46:40.060 her natural appearance.

00:46:40.980 It's

00:46:41.180 the long,

00:46:42.560 pointy nails.

00:46:44.120 It's all of the mutilations,

00:46:45.720 all of the

00:46:47.260 piercings

00:46:49.680 and all the rest of it

00:46:50.580 being hunched over.

00:46:51.980 It's a presentation

00:46:53.400 that I think

00:46:55.860 is intentionally

00:46:56.940 or unintentionally

00:46:57.880 looks,

00:46:59.640 doesn't quite look divine.

00:47:02.760 That's

00:47:03.160 the issue.

00:47:03.900 And it comes out

00:47:04.820 of a scandal.

00:47:05.560 All these wise people,

00:47:06.300 imagine if.

00:47:07.480 But listen,

00:47:08.000 I'm going to show you

00:47:08.360 how smart we are.

00:47:08.980 Imagine if

00:47:09.840 Christ were a woman.

00:47:12.380 Imagine if,

00:47:13.140 imagine if.

00:47:13.700 Yeah.

00:47:14.340 That sounds to me

00:47:15.560 like the

00:47:17.300 thought of the wise man,

00:47:18.840 the scribe,

00:47:19.560 the debater of this age.

00:47:21.640 But the foolishness of God

00:47:22.860 is wiser than men.

00:47:24.380 Okay.

00:47:25.140 Now,

00:47:25.660 speaking of Christianity,

00:47:26.700 one story,

00:47:27.160 I have to get

00:47:27.860 to,

00:47:28.480 this was called

00:47:29.180 to my attention

00:47:30.000 by my very

00:47:31.700 hip,

00:47:32.980 cool,

00:47:34.220 pop culture oriented

00:47:35.580 Protestant producer,

00:47:36.740 Mr. Davies.

00:47:37.700 Have you heard of

00:47:39.180 Forrest Frank?

00:47:42.120 Is that the name?

00:47:43.100 Am I getting the name right?

00:47:43.980 I'm not intentionally

00:47:44.620 getting it wrong,

00:47:45.180 Mr. Davies.

00:47:46.500 That's correct.

00:47:47.480 Forrest Frank.

00:47:48.280 Forrest Frank is a pop musician

00:47:49.900 and he has a song

00:47:52.000 that just hit number one

00:47:53.160 everywhere,

00:47:53.860 I guess,

00:47:54.340 Lemonade.

00:47:55.540 And he wrote

00:47:56.500 another song

00:47:57.180 recently

00:47:58.040 while he was

00:47:59.140 waylaid

00:47:59.920 and it's called

00:48:00.880 God's Got My Back

00:48:01.800 and he wrote that song

00:48:02.740 because this guy

00:48:03.700 was skateboarding.

00:48:05.120 He's got blonde tips,

00:48:06.760 he's always smiling,

00:48:07.860 kind of funny facial hair

00:48:08.940 and writes

00:48:10.600 pop guitar songs

00:48:11.580 about worship.

00:48:12.220 This man is the most

00:48:13.560 perfect

00:48:15.000 American Protestant

00:48:16.120 there has ever been.

00:48:18.420 This guy,

00:48:18.820 so,

00:48:19.180 but here's the story.

00:48:20.680 He's waylaid,

00:48:21.240 he writes this song.

00:48:22.980 Broke his back.

00:48:25.320 Now he's claiming

00:48:26.300 a miraculous healing.

00:48:30.780 Guys.

00:48:34.480 Do you want to tell them?

00:48:35.860 What do you mean?

00:48:36.900 I'll tell them.

00:48:38.300 Guys.

00:48:39.900 So I broke my back

00:48:41.160 exactly two weeks ago.

00:48:42.620 It's today,

00:48:43.220 day 14.

00:48:43.720 I got an X-ray

00:48:47.420 and a CAT scan.

00:48:49.160 It showed

00:48:49.840 that I had

00:48:51.000 multiple fractures.

00:48:52.180 Could not move

00:48:52.780 an inch without

00:48:53.560 excuse anything.

00:48:54.880 I wake up today,

00:48:56.880 forget to put on

00:48:58.320 my back brace,

00:48:59.580 just start

00:49:00.160 doing the morning.

00:49:01.800 I pick Bodhi up

00:49:03.440 and then I realized,

00:49:04.880 wait,

00:49:05.180 I'm not wearing my brace.

00:49:07.080 What is going on?

00:49:08.760 I'm wearing my brace

00:49:09.660 right now for a precaution.

00:49:10.680 Order an urgent X-ray,

00:49:12.580 go get the X-ray,

00:49:13.560 I have complete healing

00:49:15.260 in my back.

00:49:16.180 I have no fractures

00:49:17.180 in my back.

00:49:18.320 No sign of a fracture

00:49:19.880 in my back.

00:49:21.060 So,

00:49:21.760 praise God,

00:49:23.300 we saw a miracle.

00:49:24.900 Mwah.

00:49:28.720 It's pretty cool, huh?

00:49:30.420 As I mentioned,

00:49:31.980 I'm not familiar

00:49:32.740 with this guy.

00:49:34.440 Whenever I hear

00:49:35.000 claims of a miracle,

00:49:36.340 I,

00:49:37.400 it's not,

00:49:37.880 it's not even

00:49:38.380 that I'm skeptical.

00:49:39.380 It's just that

00:49:39.840 I want more information.

00:49:41.700 I want to test

00:49:42.540 all natural hypotheses

00:49:44.060 first.

00:49:44.760 I'm not calling

00:49:45.240 the guy a liar.

00:49:47.140 I don't,

00:49:47.400 he seems like

00:49:47.820 a very nice guy.

00:49:49.660 For me,

00:49:50.400 I have stuffier

00:49:51.520 musical tastes.

00:49:52.640 When I want

00:49:53.160 Protestant praise

00:49:53.920 and worship music,

00:49:54.840 I turn to

00:49:55.580 Johann Sebastian Bach.

00:49:56.880 But,

00:49:57.480 this guy writes

00:49:58.100 some bops,

00:49:58.660 there's no doubt

00:49:59.160 about it.

00:50:00.000 Obviously,

00:50:00.780 50 million Frenchmen

00:50:01.540 can't be wrong.

00:50:02.020 But,

00:50:04.400 it is entirely

00:50:06.540 possible

00:50:07.100 that this guy

00:50:08.480 had a miraculous

00:50:09.500 healing.

00:50:11.000 And this,

00:50:11.340 this calls to mind

00:50:12.280 St. Thomas'

00:50:13.040 teaching on miracles.

00:50:14.520 Which is,

00:50:15.340 one,

00:50:15.880 do miracles exist?

00:50:18.100 The answer is yes.

00:50:21.100 Why is that?

00:50:22.760 Because miracles

00:50:23.820 are supernatural.

00:50:26.240 So,

00:50:26.580 they go beyond

00:50:27.260 the natural order.

00:50:28.100 Now,

00:50:28.740 if you

00:50:29.280 even just acknowledge

00:50:30.720 that the natural order

00:50:31.960 exists,

00:50:32.640 you know,

00:50:33.340 time and space

00:50:34.080 and stuff

00:50:34.500 and all that,

00:50:35.540 if you acknowledge

00:50:36.340 that the natural order

00:50:38.440 rests upon something

00:50:40.080 or someone,

00:50:41.500 if you acknowledge

00:50:42.160 that the natural order

00:50:43.320 is not sufficient

00:50:44.300 to explain itself

00:50:45.500 and its origins

00:50:46.480 and its,

00:50:47.140 its continuation,

00:50:49.080 then you are granting,

00:50:50.820 using your natural reason

00:50:51.780 from the natural order,

00:50:53.180 that there is such a thing

00:50:54.120 as a supernatural order.

00:50:55.860 You are,

00:50:56.280 you are,

00:50:56.960 you are,

00:50:58.020 looking beyond nature

00:50:59.120 given the evidence

00:51:00.080 that you have from nature.

00:51:00.960 Okay,

00:51:01.180 so miracles can

00:51:02.060 in principle happen.

00:51:03.440 If you're a Christian,

00:51:04.140 you think miracles

00:51:04.860 certainly happened

00:51:05.500 in the Bible,

00:51:07.340 the Old Testament,

00:51:08.120 the New Testament,

00:51:08.820 the Book of Acts.

00:51:11.040 Do they happen today?

00:51:13.220 I think they do.

00:51:14.080 The Christian tradition

00:51:14.920 is that they do happen today.

00:51:16.340 I see evidence

00:51:16.880 of miracles all over the place.

00:51:18.500 One of these might be too.

00:51:19.920 So,

00:51:20.820 then what are miracles?

00:51:22.480 Well,

00:51:22.900 miracles are ways

00:51:24.080 to point beyond

00:51:26.380 the natural order,

00:51:27.520 to the supernatural order.

00:51:28.940 You can know

00:51:29.400 some things about God

00:51:30.300 just from nature,

00:51:31.080 like God's existence,

00:51:32.320 but you can know

00:51:32.700 other things about God

00:51:33.440 from the supernatural order.

00:51:34.560 And St. Thomas,

00:51:35.560 in the Summa Theologiae,

00:51:36.700 in the Summa Secunda Secundae,

00:51:38.800 I think it's question 178,

00:51:40.620 says that,

00:51:41.800 that there are two kinds

00:51:42.700 of miracles.

00:51:45.100 Miracles

00:51:45.580 that are wrought

00:51:46.720 to point

00:51:48.660 to the holiness

00:51:49.440 of

00:51:50.400 an assertion

00:51:52.040 and miracles

00:51:54.000 that are wrought

00:51:54.660 to point

00:51:56.000 to the holiness

00:51:56.540 of an individual person.

00:51:58.960 So,

00:51:59.600 there's one,

00:52:00.440 and he describes

00:52:01.260 St. Jerome,

00:52:02.100 I think,

00:52:02.440 writing about

00:52:03.080 the Gospel

00:52:04.240 of St. Matthew,

00:52:05.980 where

00:52:06.360 it says,

00:52:07.620 people

00:52:07.920 who are imperfect,

00:52:09.340 people who are even

00:52:09.940 downright bad people,

00:52:11.280 can perform miracles

00:52:12.280 calling on the name

00:52:13.040 of Christ.

00:52:14.720 And

00:52:15.020 when they call

00:52:15.660 on the name

00:52:15.920 of Christ,

00:52:16.380 they can,

00:52:18.020 miracles can happen.

00:52:18.980 And that

00:52:19.860 is to show

00:52:20.640 the power of Christ.

00:52:23.000 Nothing about

00:52:23.800 the person

00:52:24.600 through whom

00:52:25.120 the miracle happens,

00:52:26.320 but the power

00:52:27.120 of Christ,

00:52:27.720 that God's power

00:52:29.360 is far greater

00:52:30.980 than our weaknesses.

00:52:33.000 He says there's

00:52:33.480 a second way,

00:52:34.100 which is to point

00:52:34.780 to the holiness

00:52:35.220 of a person.

00:52:35.820 Here he points

00:52:36.320 to the book

00:52:36.960 of Acts,

00:52:37.720 where St. Paul

00:52:38.740 is,

00:52:39.440 people are touching

00:52:40.420 handkerchiefs to him

00:52:41.400 and then bringing it

00:52:41.940 to sick people

00:52:42.480 and feeling the relic

00:52:44.260 or the handkerchief

00:52:45.000 heals the person.

00:52:47.040 And that's to point

00:52:47.860 to the sanctity

00:52:49.080 of Paul

00:52:49.820 and the authority

00:52:50.340 that Paul has in Christ.

00:52:51.700 And that's,

00:52:52.300 but those are two

00:52:53.340 distinct ways

00:52:54.800 in which miracles happen,

00:52:56.180 both of which point

00:52:57.360 ultimately to God's glory,

00:52:59.340 to the reality

00:53:00.860 of Christ

00:53:01.460 and God's glory

00:53:02.280 and

00:53:03.940 the authority

00:53:05.360 of,

00:53:06.140 well,

00:53:07.020 the authority

00:53:07.420 of the mystical

00:53:08.400 body of Christ,

00:53:09.060 the authority

00:53:09.440 of the church.

00:53:10.660 And so,

00:53:11.700 getting to

00:53:12.460 what we were just

00:53:13.040 talking about

00:53:13.260 with Cynthia Erivo,

00:53:14.960 a real scandal

00:53:17.200 for people

00:53:17.560 is the particularity

00:53:18.580 of Christianity.

00:53:20.920 God's a man

00:53:21.720 and he has a mother

00:53:23.160 and he has apostles

00:53:25.180 who pick successors

00:53:28.040 and he establishes

00:53:29.440 a church

00:53:29.960 and he gives people

00:53:30.640 particular power

00:53:31.560 and particular sacraments

00:53:32.620 and it's also particular.

00:53:33.900 And that's just,

00:53:34.540 for the Greeks

00:53:35.080 who are so waylaid

00:53:36.860 by philosophy,

00:53:37.820 abstract philosophy,

00:53:38.700 they can't,

00:53:39.200 they don't like

00:53:39.620 the particularity of it.

00:53:41.000 And for the Jews

00:53:41.860 as well,

00:53:42.660 they don't like

00:53:44.000 the imminence

00:53:44.800 of it.

00:53:47.080 But it's forever,

00:53:48.540 so it's everyone,

00:53:49.280 you know,

00:53:49.500 Jew and Greek,

00:53:50.020 that's everybody.

00:53:50.960 And yet,

00:53:53.040 there you have it.

00:53:53.800 That's how God

00:53:54.180 chooses to reveal himself.

00:53:55.340 And he reveals himself

00:53:56.060 in very particular ways

00:53:57.060 and in particular miracles

00:53:58.280 and maybe

00:53:59.040 even a miracle

00:54:00.420 to Mr. Forrest Frank.

00:54:01.640 Okay.

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 04, 2025

Ep. 1785 - Sydney Sweeney's Titillating Voter Registration LEAKED

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