Ep. 179 - The Third American Revolution
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On this episode of The Michael Knowles Show, Michael talks about the Fourth of July, a new sponsor for the show, and answers your burning questions. Guests: North Korean defector and all-around hero Ji Sung-ho. Special thanks to Black Rifle Coffee for sponsoring the show.
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Crazy ladies climbing the Statue of Liberty, Facebook categorizing the Declaration of
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Independence as hate speech, Democrats decrying the Fourth of July, and a record low in American
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pride. Some catastrophizers say we're on the verge of a second civil war. In reality, we're on the
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precipice of a third American revolution, and the court is the key. St. Teresa of Calcutta will
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weigh in. Then, the final part of my interview with North Korean defector and all-around hero
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Ji Sung-ho. Finally, the mailbag. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Really, really good. So, how was your 4th of July? Was it good? I had a very good 4th of July.
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Obviously, I was playing It's a Grand Old Flag, marching around my apartment with sweet little
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Elisa. And then, you know, I saw some fireworks. I don't know, hung out with some pals. Ate some
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Omaha Steak Burgers. That was delicious. Went over, you know, had a couple drinks, saw some fireworks.
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I suspect you had a similar 4th of July. How did the left spend the 4th of July?
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For those of you who don't subscribe, this is why you have to subscribe. That was a video of a high
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school kid running into doorways and banging his head against the wall. Plus, obviously, that wonderful
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girl dubbed by the internet as Tickly Puff screaming. That is how the left spent their 4th of July. I mean,
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it was really, really insane. They lost their minds. Crazy ladies climbing up the Statue of Liberty.
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Even the Democrat Party issuing this crazy announcement. All of this does have you realize
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at least half the country is unhinged. They are really starting to lose it. And you hear all this talk
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about, is there going to be a civil war? Is there going to be a civil war? I don't think so. But I do
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think we're on the verge of the third American revolution. We'll get into that a little bit more
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later on. Let's start with the crazy lady who climbed the Statue of Liberty. So this is the new
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campaign slogan for Democrats. She wore a t-shirt and it said, abolish ICE. Abolish Immigration and
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Customs Enforcement. This is their new slogan going into 2018. It's not just the crazies who climbed the
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Statue of Liberty. It's even US senators who are stating this. So she goes up, she climbs the
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Statue of Liberty. They have to evacuate Liberty Island. You know, she's up there for like two
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hours. You know, by the way, that this woman is not a New Yorker because New Yorkers never go to
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the Statue of Liberty. I lived in New York like all of my life, never once went to the Statue of
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Liberty. So she, I don't know, they bust them in just like the progressives always do. They bust in
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some activists, shut it down for everybody who was trying to have a nice 4th of July. And climbing,
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waits two hours all day screaming about how we're separating families at the border. You know,
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that old Obama, that old Clinton policy of, you know, you have to detain the criminals and you
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can't throw children in jail. So she's screaming a whole hullabaloo about this. Then meanwhile,
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in San Antonio, a grown man went up to a kid who was just wearing his MAGA hat, his Make America
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Great Again hat. He so objected to that phrase, Make America Great Again, he goes up, rips the hat off
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the kid. It actually like pulled off some hair with it, too. Start screaming in his face,
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steals his hat. I think we have a video of that. Here is this crazy guy in San Antonio.
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Right now, police are looking for that man who was caught on tape on camera,
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throwing a drink at a teenager in that video, the man in the red hat, and walks off with the
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teenager's hat, pulled it off so aggressively. He also pulled out some hair with it.
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Like, I didn't think he was going to generate that amount, like, the amount of, like, what
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people were doing. Like, I was looking at the comments and some people were like,
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oh yeah, like, this is uncalled for. And then people were like, you know, just
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mixed opinions. But I didn't think it would blow up to what it is right now.
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By the way, listen, this kid is great. He's wearing an American flag bandana. You know,
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he's got braces. He's in high school, I assume. And he says, well, when I posted that video to try
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to find the guy who threw a drink in my face, ripped off, stole my hat, all this. When I posted
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it, you know, a lot of people were supportive. And then there were some mixed reactions. Mixed
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reactions are those lefties who are like, yeah, that's good. He should have ripped your head off.
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You know, it's all that craziness and all that calls for violence coming out of the left.
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The left has been calling for violence now pretty explicitly for several weeks. And look at the
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juxtaposition. You got this kid smiling, braces, American flag, bandana, you know, just all
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around high school kid. And then this crazy adult leftist, this probably unshowered, you know,
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hairy leftist throwing drinks in his face, ripping it off his head, stealing his property.
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That those are the two sides that you get to look at right now. It's the right with the American flag
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bandana and the left ripping off property, screaming, vandalizing property, climbing up the
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Statue of Liberty like a crazy person. Now, you would think in the midst of all this, Democrats would
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be freaking out. They'd say, oh, gosh, we were in an election year. We need to offer an
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aspirational statement. We need to offer something instead of just this angry craziness and the calls
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for lawlessness and open borders. That doesn't seem to play well in Peoria. So what do they do?
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The exact opposite. That's what they do. Democrats issued this 4th of July statement. This is from
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the DNC. They said, quote, nearly two and a half centuries ago, a band of patriots gathered in
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Philadelphia to declare that all men are created equal. Our nation has changed dramatically since those
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words were first written on parchment. Generations of brave Americans have fought to expand the
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promise of equality for more Americans, move our country forward in its march toward a more perfect
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union. As we celebrate our nation's independence, we recognize America's founding promise remains
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out of reach for too many families. Too many members of our society are still struggling to find a good
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paying job. Not true, by the way. We have record low unemployment. There are more jobs open than people
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who are willing to fill those jobs or the health care that they need. Not true. Barack Obama stole
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health care from Americans who wanted to keep their doctor. And now we've reversed that. Let Americans
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have their own health care choice. They go on. Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt, Democrats. Too many
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women, LGBTQ Americans. And by the way, I'm very offended on behalf of the I-L-A-P-Q-L-M-N-O-P-Z-Y-X
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Americans who were not named by the Democrats, you divisive, exclusive monsters. They go on. People of
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color, people with disabilities still face inequality and injustice across our society.
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What's your evidence for that? No evidence, of course. But hey, they're Democrats. Who needs
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evidence? Everywhere we look, our most fundamental values are under attack. What values? Liberty?
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Great. More liberty than ever. Economic prosperity? Good. More prosperity than ever.
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I know that one Democrat value, I think, is booing God like they did at their national convention.
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But now we've got more religious liberty in this land. So you are free to boo God if you want. And
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like good people and Christians are free to worship God. Thousands of Americans have been separated
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from their parents at our southern border. Thousands of children have been separated from their parents.
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Now, this isn't quite true. I mean, this is a policy that's gone on for a long time now. But
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notice the slate of hand here. It's not American children that are being taken from their parents.
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It's illegal aliens invading the country. So the American dream isn't being pulled out of reach
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for Americans. It's that Americans are allowed to define their borders, to have borders, to say
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who gets to come into the country, who gets to access welfare systems, who gets to participate in
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labor markets, who gets to come in when there are perhaps higher risks of crime. Total slate of
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hand to conflate. This is what the Democrats do, by the way. It's why they changed illegal alien
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to illegal immigrant, to undocumented immigrant. Even illegal immigrant is ridiculous. There's no
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illegal immigrant. To be an immigrant, you have to be accepted by the country.
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Illegal alien is the term. They say, oh, you know, it's really an illegal immigrant. And there are all
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sorts of immigrants. There are Italian immigrants. There are Irish immigrants. There are illegal immigrants.
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You know, they're all just immigrants, aren't they? No. They go on, though. At our highest court,
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workers' rights are being taken away. Not so. Workers are being given rights because now the
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workers have a right to decide if they want to join that union or not join that union. Workers are
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being given way more rights. Total lie. Voting rights are under assault. Not so at all. They're
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referring to voter ID because Democrats usually rely on the dead and the felonious to win elections.
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And now we're suggesting perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to do that. Muslim Americans are being
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discriminated against for their faith. Don't see a whole lot of evidence for that. And by the way,
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a huge number of hate crimes in the United States are against Jews. They don't seem to talk about
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Jews. It's always because the Democrats have taken this very strong stance against Israel and in favor
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of the alleged religion of peace. A woman's right to choose is under threat like never before.
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A woman's right to choose to kill her baby is, of course, what they're suggesting. And this gets to
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the heart of what lies before the third American revolution. We'll get to that in a bit. The Democratic
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Party believes that all people are created equal no matter who they are, where they come from,
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who they love, or how they pray. Unless they're Christians, in which case they can't do anything
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and they have to bake the cakes and they have to arrange the flower arrangements and they need to
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shut up and stop praying in schools. As we celebrate our nation's independence, Democrats reaffirm our
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commitment to fighting for the values of inclusion and opportunity for everyone except for patriotic
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Americans. Maybe that part was implied at the end. So they issued this very angry, negative statement.
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Everything's terrible. The world's going to hell in a handbasket. And they're focusing on issues that
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the American people don't want to focus on. So we know that the vast majority of Americans don't want
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amnesty, don't want open borders, even for dreamers, by the way. And this is true even among Democrats.
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The majority of Democrats don't want amnesty, even for dreamers. They don't think that should be a
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priority for Congress. And yet the Democrats are doubling down on this. They're doubling down on
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their radicalism. In part, it's because Trump has trolled them into doing this. They just, they
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can't help but take the bait that he puts out there, usually on Twitter. But it's a really weird
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and losing strategy. And the one day that we're supposed to all be united, the 4th of July, American
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independence, go out and shoot some fireworks and stop complaining. What do they do? They complain.
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Why do they complain on the 4th of July? Because they don't like America. They don't like it.
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They're showing their hand. They used to say things like, you know, dissent is patriotic. So when they
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would say anti-American things, they would pretend at least that we're patriotic. They're not even
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doing that anymore. They're not even pretending. Their anti-Americanism is really right out in front.
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They say, we don't want any borders. No, you know, America is stolen land. You had the head of the
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Democrat Party, one of the heads of the Democrat Party, smiling with protesters who say that America's
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stolen land. You know, that's the radicalism that we're seeing. And that radicalism, I do understand,
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why some people think we're headed toward another civil war. They seem to think, you know, we're so
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divided now. Both sides are so angry, or at least the left is so angry, that inevitably we're going
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towards civil war. CNN, CNN, Brian Stelter, one of the best characters from CNN, you know,
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he looks, I'm not going to make fun of his looks, but one could, you know, one certainly could. He was
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giving a talk at the Aspen Ideas Festival, and he's there, and he says, we have a national emergency.
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Right now, the Trump presidency is a national emergency. Never mind, of course, that since
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President Trump was inaugurated, the Dow is up 5,000 points. Never mind that unemployment is at
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record lows. Right now, 3.8 percent unemployment. For all those Americans who are seeing their wealth
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increase, their freedoms increase, and their employment prospects increase, it doesn't seem like
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a national emergency, but there's Brian Stelter to remind them that it is, at least in his own fantasy
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world. And then to round all of that off, according to new polling, a record low percentage of Americans
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are extremely proud to be an American. There is a little caveat here. 47 percent of Americans are
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still extremely proud to be American, which is pretty good. You know, you have the word extremely in
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there. But look, America is a country that really believes in itself. It's a country that was
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founded as a project. So enthusiasm reigns. You know, you can have cynicism or kind of lethargy
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or apathy in a place like France. You expect that, right? A friend like, well, qu'est-ce qu'on
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pu dire? Qu'est-ce qu'on pu faire? Rien, rien. Right, but not in America. In America, you have this
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enthusiasm. You say, yeah, damn right, America. F yeah, you know, like the song. I mean, it's really
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put a shove a boot in different places and, you know, proud to be an American. It's a very enthusiastic
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place. And 47 percent are still extremely proud. I wonder what that breakdown is on party lines,
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by the way. I wonder. Do you think it's just 100, a full 100 percent of those people who say they're
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extremely proud are Republicans? I might suspect so, because the Democrats have taken such an explicit
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anti-American turn. That number, 47 percent, is way down. That number was 70 percent in 2003. Now,
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in part of that, there was this real rallying of the American spirit after the attacks of 9-11.
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And George W. Bush had great moral leadership right after that terrorist attack. It unified the
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country. That number dropped. That number stabilized shortly after 9-11, or after 2003, rather. And it
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stabilized, and it was pretty stable until 2013. And then it really started this decline, and it's
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been declining ever since. Percentage of Americans who say that they're extremely proud to be an American.
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What changed? I think in the immediate timeline, we can blame Barack Obama for this. I like to blame
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Barack Obama for just about anything. But this, I think he's really culpable for. It's that second
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Obama term was just so awful. You know, usually presidents in their second term moderate a little
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bit. They try to unify the country. They try to have a nice legacy that can buoy them among all segments
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of the American people. And Obama didn't do that. Fox.com even admits this. Fox ran a thing. He said
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the ingenious Obama second term. Most presidents moderate. He didn't. He doubled down on the first
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term. So you had these things like foreign policy. In foreign policy, he didn't try to moderate.
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He surrendered to Iran. He surrendered to Korea. He gave them, he flew over planes full of, you know,
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cases of cash and gave them a ton of American assets. He bowed down. They captured American sailors in
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the Persian Gulf. He said, oh, well, please don't, don't do that again. Don't do that again. And in
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Cuba, after a 50-year, 60-year embargo policy and not having normal relations with Cuba, he said, okay,
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well, we'll open an embassy and we'll give you everything you want. And in return, you give us
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nothing. Just do it. Do it because we hate ourselves. And then, of course, in 2015, after the
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Obersfeld decision that redefined marriage to include same-sex monogamous unions, but not same-sex
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polygamous unions for some reason, because Anthony Kennedy thinks very highly of himself and believes
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he's a romantic poet. After that decision, what did Barack Obama do? Did he try to unite the country?
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No. He painted the White House in rainbow lights. He was a huge middle finger to half of the country,
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to people who didn't want the central institution of society to be radically redefined by a court,
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based on nothing, based on Anthony Kennedy's romantic poetry and the alleged right to intimacy
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that Kennedy found. And Scalia said, clearly there isn't a right to intimacy. And even if there were,
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marriage would not expand that. Ask the nearest hippie. He just rubbed most of America's face in
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this. It was such a radicalism. And the real problem with that, by the way, isn't even the question of
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what one thinks about gay unions or what to call gay unions or how they should be.
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Interpreted by law. The real problem was flouting the rule of law of saying, there's no, it doesn't
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matter what the rule of law is. Yeah, we're going to hate, they're going to look at us with a straight
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face, the Democrats, and say, yeah, I think all the founding fathers and the framers of the
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constitution, they thought the constitution protected monogamous gay unions and defined
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marriage that way. That's what they thought. You say, you don't, you couldn't possibly think that.
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No, but no, yeah, that's what they thought. Tell me I'm wrong. And that flouting the rule of law
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is the real issue. It's, it's, think of like the psychology of lines. When you're standing online
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at a store and you're waiting to check out or something. And when people are online, there
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have been a lot of studies about this. They don't really mind if the line is long. They don't really
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mind if the line is not moving. So long as the line is fair. The minute someone cuts in line,
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people lose their mind because they've broken the rules and now there is chaos. People are, you think,
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I can't rely on these rules anymore. So what's going to happen? People get very agitated. People
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get very anxious and people get very tense. The situation becomes very tense. That's what's
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happening by flouting the rule of law. This is why when the Democrats say abolish ICE, what they're
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saying is abolish law enforcement. They've been talking about this for with cops forever, you know,
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abolish police departments, right? They want to abolish the rule of law. And it makes everybody very
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anxious because when you don't have a rule of law, you have the rule of men and men can do whatever they
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want. And if the guy that doesn't like you is in charge, then things probably aren't going to work
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out very well for you unless he's bound by the rule of law. This goes back to the third American
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revolution, not the civil war. We're very lazy for a civil war and there aren't equally strong sides
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here. But there have been three American, there have been two American revolutions so far. The first was
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the one in 1776 that began yesterday over two centuries ago. Then the second one was the civil
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war. This was another American revolution. This was finishing the work of the American revolution.
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That first revolution was based on natural rights. It was based on the right to life, liberty, and the
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pursuit of happiness. The second American revolution was based on just that. The founding fathers,
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John Adams, predicted that there would be another American revolution, that they would have to
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fight another great war over the question of slavery because the premise of the United States
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was not borne out with the institution of slavery in place. The founding fathers suspected this. The
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framers knew that this would happen. Eventually it happened. That same issue is playing out on the
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question of abortion. And the question of abortion is twofold. There's Roe v. Wade. There's the question
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of actually the right to an abortion and actually killing babies. And then there's the question of who can
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define that right. Is the court able to just pretend that there's some right to an abortion in the
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constitution? Or if there is to be a right to an abortion, do the legislatures have to enact that
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as a law because we're a republic and we have representatives to make laws for us? What is the
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question? And this question of abortion is so essential. The Democrats are all losing their mind
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on this court seat and over Merrick Garland and over Neil Gorsuch because Roe v. Wade is a ridiculous
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decision that obviously was wrongly decided. Everybody knows this. The left knows this. They're
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basically admitting it now. And they know that if an originalist or a constitutionalist or textualist
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or whatever you want to call it is nominated to the court, Roe v. Wade might be imperiled. And that's
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the question. They're saying this is all about this one decision. But the decision isn't just awful for
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itself. It's awful also for what it says about American law and that anxiety that it brought to
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American law. Here is Mother Teresa, Saint Teresa of Calcutta, explaining the merits of it itself,
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the question of abortion itself. Then we'll get to it in the American system. Here's Saint Teresa.
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But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion. Because Jesus said,
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if you receive a little child, you receive me. So every abortion is the denial of receiving Jesus,
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is the neglect of receiving Jesus. It is really a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent
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child, murdered by the mother herself. And if we accept that the mother can kill even her own child,
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how can we tell other people not to kill one another? By abortion, the mother does not learn
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to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that
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he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child. He has brought into the world that
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so that father is like you put other women into the same problem. So abortion just leads to more
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abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love one another,
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but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace
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is abortion. So true. And she said this, St. Teresa said this in 1994 at the National Prayer Breakfast.
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This was major international headlines. Mother Teresa says the greatest destroyer of peace is abortion.
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Seems like such a minor thing. It's such a small little being that you're snuffing out. Oh,
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it's a privacy issue. But it operates on twofold. Abortion begets more abortion. And the awful
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jurisprudence, the perverse jurisprudence that led to the Roe v. Wade decision begets more perverse
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jurisprudence that threatens the liberty of the United States. What paved the way for the Roe v.
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Wade decision was Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965, where Justice William O. Douglas found,
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quote, the foregoing cases suggest that specific guarantees in the Bill of Rights have penumbras
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formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance. Now,
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to translate that into English, I'll tell you what he actually said. He said, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Gobble to go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what
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he said. It's absurd. Penumbra is like a shade, you know, a sort of shaded area, shadow that goes out
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and emanations coming from those guarantees. So he's saying, yes, there's no right to an abortion
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in the Constitution, but, you know, I like certain parts of the Constitution, and I like abortion,
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and, you know, they're probably connected somehow. So let's say that there's a right to abortion.
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And now that case, by the way, Griswold v. Connecticut was not about abortion. It was about
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contraception, whether laws can ban the use of contraceptives. And they found this generalized
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right to privacy, which does not exist anywhere in the Constitution. And the fact that that
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decision, Roe v. Wade, remains on the book, such a monumental, such a consequential decision,
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such an absurd, illogical, nonsense decision, it has led to further crazy jurisprudence. And we have
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to respect it by stare decisis, some say. But some decisions are so egregious that they have to be
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overturned. The abortion begets more abortion, and perversity and perverse jurisprudence begets more
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perverse jurisprudence. You know, by 2015, support for the Supreme Court hit an all-time low in the
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United States. Trust in the Supreme Court is an institution. Why did it hit an all-time low? Because
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with those sorts of decisions, it became clear that the Supreme Court was not interpreting the law. The
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Supreme Court was writing law, and writing consequential law, and pretty horrific law.
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Revolutions happen because of natural rights in the United States. That's what they're about.
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Thomas Jefferson said frequently, he said, from time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed
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with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It's a pretty graphic image, pretty vivid image. And that
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certainly was the case in the first American Revolution. It was certainly the case in the
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second American Revolution. We can hope that in this third American Revolution, that I hope we
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embark upon, that there will not be more blood spilled, but that the blood that has been spilled since
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the Roe v. Wade decision will cease to be spilled. That that will act as enough spilled blood for that
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revolution, because we're on the cusp of it. And we can either turn away from it. If President Trump
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nominates some squish in the model of Justice Kennedy, we'll continue down the path of perverse
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jurisprudence and the erosion of liberty and the erosion of life. And if he nominates an originalist who
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is going to read the text and tell us what it means, then we might be able to recapture some of that
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liberty. We might be able to protect life without which liberty and the pursuit of happiness means
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nothing. We can only hope that. The Democrats are losing their mind because of this. They're
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losing their mind because this tyranny is possibly going to come to an end. There was tyranny before
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the first revolution. There was tyranny before the second. And there has been a tyranny of men
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since this awful jurisprudence has gone into effect. We've become much more a nation of men.
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Congress has abdicated its responsibility. The president leads by executive fiat. This was
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most noted under Barack Obama. The Congress has abdicated its responsibility. The court rules by
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fiat. The court has abandoned its loyalty to the Constitution. So it would rule as the rule of
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men. There's a tyranny that's coming to an end. It's brought around a lot of leftist policy
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prerogatives that might be coming to an end. They're losing their minds. It might look pretty
00:28:16.780
bad now, but it looked pretty bad in the early days of the American Revolution and the Civil War too.
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It looked pretty bad. And so you say, oh, we're divisive. We hate each other. Well, let's just all calm
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down. Maybe calm down. Or maybe we should try to do something here. And maybe, you know, those people
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who say, calm down. President Trump, just appoint some squishy guy. Then people, no, don't pacify
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them. Don't pacify them. Do the right thing. Do the right thing. And we might have a chance to keep
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up American liberty and American life because it seems that we're at a turning point.
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I ran a little bit late. Now I've got to bring you, speaking of life and liberty, the final part of my
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interview with Ji Sung-ho, the defector and the director of the film that is now the documentary
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film that is covering Ji Sung-ho's life and journey. Without further ado, Ji Sung-ho.
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Hawk, thank you for coming on. Hawk Jensen, you've been a filmmaker for 19 years, journalist, writer,
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producer. You've been around Hollywood. You've been around the industry, journeyman. What led you to
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this story other than that it's the most inspiring story, certainly in my lifetime? What led you to
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it? How did you get involved? And tell us a little bit about the project. Sure. Well, I mean, this
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specific episode, we've been filming this short-form documentary for Witness Project. We've been
00:29:29.780
shooting with Ji Sung-ho. The next round of episodes we're doing for the series called Witness Project,
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which is an original series put out by Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
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I'm familiar with them. Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
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Yeah. You always hear about victims of Nazism or victims of this, but for some reason,
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victims of communism, even though we can see these unbelievable stories of hell on earth
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to getting out and getting to freedom, for some reason, that doesn't get a lot of play in the
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media. Yeah, and I got the call. So, I mean, I started a documentary film company about six
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years ago because I was working mainstream here, and I was just kind of tired of the vacuous
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aspect of the storytelling and sort of the one-sided aspect of the storytelling. I just had a,
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I've always had independent opinion on matters. By the way, for those watching,
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that means conservative. You know, when you say independent in Hollywood, they're like,
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you know. Well, yeah, or it's just like the difference of opinion. I mean, there is a main
00:30:23.520
way of thinking in the L.A. film industry, and if you think differently, conservative or otherwise,
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you are otherized, and it is something that you have to overcome as a filmmaker and as an artist,
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as someone who's expressing themselves. And so I got a phone call a number of years ago saying,
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like, hey, we've got these stories. They're building effectively a museum, kind of a Holocaust-style
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museum for the victims of communism. And, you know, the Cold War ended, and there was this whole
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propensity to just leave those stories, like, who wants to remember the past? Who wants to think
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about this? And then, and enough times gone by, you know, 20, 30 years, where I started seeing that
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those oral stories were starting to die out, weren't being captured, weren't being brought to
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the sort of historically significant level of being known to sort of the cultural literacy.
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And it just really struck me that it was an important, underserved part of storytelling. And
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so I took on the project, Witness Project, and it was really looking at the first-person,
00:31:19.660
primary source people who experienced these things. I mean, there's more than one type of evil in the
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world. And these stories are important to capture, and you have to go to the source. And so I actually
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really looked at it and thought about it as the journey of the dissident. I mean, everything in
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this town is based off of the hero's journey, right? I mean, every feature film is the ordinary
00:31:39.440
world, the call to adventure, the rejection of the call, the meeting of the mentor, the acceptance of
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the call. You know, then you have the ordeal, the belly of the beast, the reward, the road home.
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That's every feature film, every feature film, right? And we have to know that pat when you make
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films in this town. And so I took it and looked at it as the journey of the dissident, where you live
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in a collective, closed society, and your individuality has been crushed. There is a
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journey of that awakening within. And, you know, well before the external 6,000 miles dragging yourself
00:32:09.400
through the jungle, there's the sort of, you're mapping the world, you're being fed propaganda.
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And, you know, there's only one God, the dear leader. And then there's this sort of, you start
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to learn, you start to map the world out for your own mind, and there's cognitive dissidence. There's
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what you've been told and what you have realized. And that's the first threshold of coming out as a
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dissident, coming out as an activist. You're like, huh, things are different. And the entire communist
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system is designed to try and stop you from thinking at that moment. And so I thought, well, how do we show
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that threshold? How do we show that internal awakening that happens before the first steps
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taken when you cross the border to, like in Jishang Ho's case, cross the border to China and start that
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step-by-step process? So then, and then the second, much like the meeting of the mentor, the first time
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you decide to say something out loud, the first time you decide to express yourself, that's life or
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death. You think, hmm, this doesn't seem to compute. They don't seem to be the total leader. You say it to
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them. You say it to your parents. You say it to your brother. You say it to your sister, whoever,
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your friend. If you happen to choose incorrectly, that could mean death. That could mean re-education.
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That could be loss of reputation. It could be loss of ability to support yourself. I mean, it's a very
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profound journey that happens internally. So I look at the internal and the external as sort of a
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two-part aspect of my storytelling. Of course, yeah. I think Sung Ho was talking about that too,
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the spiritual aspect, you know, this kind of internal aspect, and then obviously the external
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horrors. When can we see this? You know, obviously we've gotten to hear a little bit about this story.
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When can we see this and how are we going to make sure that the American people can see this,
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this historically important matter that for so long hasn't really been talked about?
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Yeah, well, we just wrapped a great series of production days filming this, and we're going
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to be working on post-production for a number of months, and we'll figure, and so probably in the
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next six months we'll come up with this episode, maybe less, and we're working on distribution for
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it right now in terms of a worldwide distribution. But right now it's currently available. Victims of
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Communism has a website, you know, Slash Witness, Smock Media. We also have portals to the same aspect,
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and we're just sort of building our cultural base and understanding of that world,
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of close societies, of communist, collectivist societies, and the oppression. So it's a great
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space to kind of start learning how oppression works on the left side of the spectrum.
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Well, Hawk, it is so wonderful that you are using the tools of Hollywood to convey
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important stories that aren't being told and to bring about a lot of good by uncovering a lot of evil.
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I mean, it is so wonderful. I've been out here for a little while, and that isn't what
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Hollywood does. That just, Hollywood just never does that. So that's really wonderful. I can't
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wait to see it. And Song Ho, you are doing God's work, man. It is a singular privilege of my life
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to get to meet you. Thank you. Thanks a lot. Thank you both. Pretty cool to talk to those guys,
00:35:09.700
and great to see some good stuff coming out of Hollywood, too, as they're making this documentary
00:35:14.080
about it. You saw probably on the 4th of July, James Woods, outspoken Hollywood conservative,
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James Woods' agent dropped him. He said, it's the 4th of July, and I don't want to represent you
00:35:24.600
anymore. Right? That's Hollywood for you. So it's good to see some good stuff coming out of Hollywood.
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And, you know, I guess it's kind of, it's too bad for the movie industry because James Woods is such
00:35:32.840
a good actor, but at least now he'll have more time to be on Twitter. And he's a very good tweeter,
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too, so that'll be enjoyable. Breaking news now, the EPA chief, Scott Pruitt, has resigned.
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President Trump has accepted his resignation. Democrats have been gunning for this guy forever
00:35:46.140
because he was a strong deregulator. He was really undoing a lot of the insane
00:35:50.220
and tyrannical Obama administration agenda of using the EPA in particular, but the executive agencies
00:35:56.120
to basically regulate all of Americans' lives, to, in effect, pass laws that run Americans' lives.
00:36:02.480
And he did a great job. I'm sorry to see him go. Andy Wheeler, the deputy EPA chief,
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will take over in his place. And I hope he's related to Liz Wheeler. I don't know,
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maybe. That'd be kind of cool, wouldn't it? A good, sturdy Texas constitution. Anyway,
00:36:16.540
it's too bad to see him go. He did a great job and they smeared him and he withstood the smearing
00:36:21.040
for a while. But these guys who are trying to regain some American liberty, it really,
00:36:26.080
they're sacrificing a lot because their lives basically get ruined by the left. So good on
00:36:30.460
you, Scott. Good job for what you did. We've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube. Go to
00:36:34.220
dailywire.com right now. It is 10 bucks a month, $100 for an annual membership. You get me,
00:36:38.600
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00:36:41.280
mailbag, which is coming up. We got a solid 10 minutes left where we can talk about that.
00:36:45.500
But none of that matters. Oh, that tastes like a judge, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, doesn't it?
00:36:56.980
Does that taste like, it tastes like the news headline, Justice Amy Coney Barrett,
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and then the deluge that comes down from all the lefties. Those leftist tears, deluge.
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Very good. We can only hope. Go to dailywire.com, get your leftist tears. Tumblr will be right back
00:37:11.100
with the mailbag. I'm running late, so let's get right into it with the mailbag from Alex.
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Dear St. Michael of the silent word, bringer of all leftist tears, I implore you,
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I've become acquainted with a QT 3.14. Anybody get that? With a QT pie bearer of 2X allosomes,
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chromosomes, allosomes, I don't know, by means of my church choir, and I must say that she tickles
00:37:46.420
my fancy. What with her devotion to the risen Christ and her many gifts from God, let's say.
00:37:53.480
Well put. I feel as though I ought to make a move on this woman, but am hindered by my adherence to the
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notion that the church is supposed to be a place of devotion to our Lord, our God, and not a place
00:38:03.420
to fraternize. I feel as though if I were to attempt to form a relationship with a woman who
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I've come to know through church events, I'd be in a sense degrading the institution. But then again,
00:38:12.900
if not through Catholic-related events, how on God's green earth am I supposed to find and marry
00:38:16.300
a Catholic woman? Please help me solve this dilemma. I'm happy to help you solve this.
00:38:24.340
And God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and
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subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens,
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and over every living thing that man moves on the earth. You know, it's not good for man to be alone.
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Man needs a mate, and that's why God gave Adam a mate and seems to have maybe given you one.
00:38:44.480
Now, here's the important thing, because I understand you're worried about being inappropriate
00:38:49.800
in the church or being irreverent. Some things are inappropriate in the church. Acoustic guitars,
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that song about the eagle's wings, applause, and those things are inappropriate in a church.
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Marrying a woman and just populating it with lots of little Catholic babies,
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very appropriate to begin that in a church. Now, there's one caveat here, which is,
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if you're in this choir with her, and you really, obviously, you don't want to be too distracted
00:39:17.040
during the mass, buddy. You know, try to keep your eyes on the prize. But afterward, or at the
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little coffee afterward, or whatever you're going to do, it's good to think about other things and,
00:39:26.200
you know, how to follow God's commands on this earth. Because you're in this choir with her,
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and it's, you know, you're focused on God, you just got to be kind of cool about it. Like,
00:39:37.160
don't be weird about it. You know, you don't want, you want to go up and ask her out and be confident,
00:39:41.940
and maybe that'll go well. And if she is really not interested, then, you know, unfortunately,
00:39:47.820
you got to let it go. But there is, there is nothing in, I've, I've read the Catechism of the
00:39:53.220
Catholic Church. I've read the Bible. I've read some, some of the church fathers. There is nothing that
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says that you cannot pick up a cute lady and populate God's green earth. Quite the opposite,
00:40:03.480
pal. Go forward in Genesis 128. Let me know how it goes. From Cameron, to the Daily Wire's homegrown
00:40:10.720
gavone. A week ago, you made a distinction between a conservative and a constitutional Supreme Court
00:40:18.400
justice. And while I agree with you in principle, I'm having some trouble getting my mind around the
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example you used. You said that a conservative justice would ban abortion outright, but a
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constitutional or textualist or originalist justice would simply overturn Roe v. Wade and kick the
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lawmaking to the states. I'm not a constitutional scholar, but it seems to me that if you accept
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the premise that abortion is the killing of unborn children, as I think I've heard you say
00:40:40.700
on the show, then states don't have the right to allow it. Again, I'm no expert, but it seems crazy
00:40:44.840
to me that the Constitution leaves space for the states to legalize the killing of any subject of
00:40:48.760
its population. Arguments about the death penalty set aside for the sake of the question. What am I
00:40:53.580
missing here? Thanks, Cameron. You're missing federalism. Most murders are state crimes. They're not federal
00:40:58.340
crimes. That's why we have a federal system in the Constitution. So not everything hateful
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and odious is covered by some provision of the Constitution. Now, find me a state that doesn't
00:41:07.260
consider murder a crime. Good luck. You probably won't. But that's not a matter for the federal
00:41:12.220
government to decide. That's regulated by the states, with some exceptions. There are some murders
00:41:15.940
that are federal crimes. But when they're not, you leave it to the states. And if you believe in
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federalism, then you'll suspect that most states will come to see the light and come to a reasonable
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conclusion. But that's why. As Scalia once told me, the late Great Justice Scalia, not everything hateful
00:41:35.620
and odious is covered by some provision of the Constitution. And you've got to be okay with that
00:41:40.280
because that's the central liberty premise in the Constitution. And if you don't like that,
00:41:47.240
then you really just become the flip side of the lefty people who want to twist the Constitution.
00:41:52.080
Now, that's probably better. I'd rather have a conservative twist the Constitution than a lefty twist
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the Constitution. But what I really want is for the document to speak for itself and for the document
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to be interpreted with the original meaning that it had, the original public meaning at the time that
00:42:07.140
it was ratified. From Haley. I have a little bit more time. Who do you think should be chosen for
00:42:13.780
Supreme Court? For the Supreme Court. Amy Coney Barrett. That's who. I think she's terrific. I think there
00:42:18.640
are a lot of good options out there. And it looks like the shortlist is down to three. Some of the other
00:42:22.840
people seem okay. She seems to be the most rock ribbed. She seems to be the most sure thing
00:42:27.660
on a personal level. And, you know, optics do matter. The personality does matter because,
00:42:34.640
you know, they will be going through a confirmation process. This will play out on a political stage.
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She's just, it appears unimpeachable and terrific. She raised seven children while becoming a federal
00:42:45.640
judge. She takes her religion seriously. Dianne Feinstein said that the, what is it, the dogma
00:42:53.660
lives loudly within her. Works for me. And she's been through this vetting process very recently,
00:42:59.780
this same process. So I think it'd be good. And I think it would be nice to have someone that we
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can rely upon to be an originalist on the court. And she seems pretty rock ribbed. This isn't to say
00:43:10.660
that the others are awful, but she's got my support. From Keegan. Hi, pretty boy Knowles. Hey,
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Keegan. Me and my friend are having a small argument over Israel and Palestine. He keeps
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saying that the Israelis want to invade and claim the Palestinians' lands, which is complete
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assininity. What would be some simple points to point out to him over this matter? Okay. Well,
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you're right. It's completely ridiculous. The Israelis couldn't invade Palestinians' land because
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there's no such thing as Palestinians' land. There's no such country as Palestine. It's to
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the left of Wakanda and to the east of Narnia. It's utter nonsense. The great leader of Palestine,
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Yasser Arafat, was born in Egypt. He's an Egyptian. There's no such thing. It's a contrived crisis
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created by Arabs who oppose the existence of Israel. It's really sad that other Arab nations have allowed
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some people who now call themselves the Palestinian people to live in squalor and to, as a cudgel,
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to try to attack the state of Israel. The Islamic religion has no claim on Jerusalem whatsoever
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and the Palestinian dilemma will only be resolved when the Arab states around it want peace and the
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Arab states around it appear not to want peace. It's utterly contrived and we shouldn't mistake
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the crocodile tears of Islamic tyrannical nations around them as anything but what they are,
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which is uncompassionate and a cudgel against a legitimate flourishing democratic state in the
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region. From Ryan, hi Michael. In the Catholic faith, it is of the utmost importance to be open
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to having children when getting married. Would Catholicism be more in favor of a homosexual
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couple getting married with plans to have children or a heterosexual couple getting married with no plans
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to have children? Most of that question is nonsense by the light of the Catholic Church and this is
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because the debate over whether to have gay marriage or not is not whether gay people should
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have the right to get married but what marriage means and the definition of marriage that has
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existed for all of human history is that sexual difference inheres in marriage and so if you don't
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have sexual difference then you don't have marriage. You have something else but it isn't marriage.
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So to the first part, that couldn't happen. For the heterosexual couple, the sexually different couple
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who are getting married and have no plans to have children. You have to be open to children for that
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to be a sacrament. If you're not open to children then it isn't, then you aren't getting married in
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the light of the Catholic Church and this is, this, they are very hard line about this. I mean this is a
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hard line rule. If somebody has, is incapable of having children, not that you know perhaps it won't work
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out or they're, it seems that they're barren or something like that but if it is like they're
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missing half of their body, they're only a torso up to a head, you can't get married. That's not a,
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that isn't a legitimate marriage in the eyes of the Catholic Church. You have to be open to it. Now
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what does that mean? Some people say, oh I don't know that I want to have kids and then like five
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seconds later they start their brood. I've got some friends who are like that, so I don't think I want
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to have kids until now and now I'm gonna have like 10 of them. So that, you know, things can change like
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that but you must be open to the possibility of life and if you're not, then it's not marriage.
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Now if you're, let's say, two people get married and one is post-menopause and I don't know, one,
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it isn't, it isn't looking, some doctor said you're probably not gonna have kids. That doesn't
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take out the logical possibility of life. That doesn't, you know, that, that is still, that could
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still be a legitimate marriage but when it's not logically possible, it's not a marriage. Can I take
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one more? Do I have time for one more? One more you say, okay I'll do it. From Sean, is it true that
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the only thing that flat earthers have to fear is the sphere itself? Great question. This is why you
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tune into this show for real important bits of insight like that. That might, that might well be
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true. I do want to mention something about the flat earthers though because this irks me all the
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time. You always hear lefties compare conservatives to flat earthers. They say, oh you know in the old
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times, the people thought the earth was flat and what's great is that the real flat earthers, meaning
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people who denied basic realities of the world, the real flat earthers are the people who promote the
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flat earther myth. In, in the old timey days, nobody thought the earth was flat. People have known that
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the earth is spherical since the sixth century before Christ and Aristotle, that was Pythagoras who
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suggested that, Aristotle has provided evidence that the earth is spherical since the fourth century before
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Christ. There's this myth that people in the old timey days, like in the middle ages, thought the
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earth was flat. This was put forward by John William Draper, who's a scientist, Andrew Dixon White, who
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was an educator, and Washington Irving, whom I love, good essayist and biographer, but dead wrong about
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this. It's just a, it's one of these tools that the lefties use to try to make it seem like we moderns,
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you know, we moderns have iPhones, so clearly we're much smarter and more educated than those crazy
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middle ages people. Not true. The people in the middle ages, medieval philosophers, were much, much smarter
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than you and I. Thomas Aquinas is much smarter than you and I. And it's just a total lie. So I love, whenever
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they say that, say, you know, you are using that phrase to call people from the past idiots, and you are using
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it to demonstrate that you yourself are an idiot. On that note, we have so many more questions. We're not going to get to
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them. Have a good weekend. I hope you enjoy the 4th of July. It's like a nice abbreviated week. I'm going
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to get back to my solid 72 hours of loafing around and not doing anything, and I'll see you on Monday.
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I hope you have a good weekend. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Jonathan Hay. Our supervising producer, Mathis Glover. And our technical producer is Austin Stevens. Edited by Jim
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