The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1796 - BREAKING： Trump Makes Zelensky Wear A Suit

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00:01:46.400 President Trump met with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky

00:01:57.120 and European leaders at the White House yesterday.

00:01:59.600 This following a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday.

00:02:05.780 By the end of it all, President Trump managed to pull off the impossible.

00:02:10.720 He finally got Zelensky to wear a suit.

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00:04:13.480 He did it.

00:04:14.340 The man did it.

00:04:15.460 Get this man.

00:04:17.700 I guess maybe not a Nobel Peace Prize yet.

00:04:21.040 He has brought about a lot of peace.

00:04:22.580 He's been much better on the issue of warranties than his predecessors, Biden and Obama and Bush.

00:04:28.360 But Trump hasn't quite yet ended the Ukraine-Russia war.

00:04:32.400 However, he did something that is actually more difficult, which is that he got Vladimir Zelensky,

00:04:36.800 who's been wearing his pajamas for the past three years.

00:04:39.140 He got the man to put on a suit, kind of.

00:04:43.340 Here is Zelensky addressing this in the Oval Office with the reporter who dressed him down during the last Oval Office visit for showing up in his sweatsuit.

00:04:53.760 President Zelensky, you look fabulous in that suit.

00:04:56.620 I said the same thing.

00:04:57.660 Yeah, you look good.

00:04:58.740 I said the same thing.

00:05:00.160 Yeah.

00:05:00.540 In fact, I said the one that attacked you last time.

00:05:02.660 See, I remember that.

00:05:04.440 I apologize to you.

00:05:05.620 You look wonderful.

00:05:06.320 No, my first question for you, President Zelensky.

00:05:08.900 In the same suit.

00:05:12.520 You see, I changed you.

00:05:14.740 Maybe yours is much better.

00:05:17.980 That's actually a nice little response there from Zelensky.

00:05:21.600 So the reporter pushes it again.

00:05:23.240 This reporter who last time said, why don't you ever wear a suit?

00:05:25.360 And they get into this sort of shouting match.

00:05:27.260 And this time he says, that's a very nice suit.

00:05:29.060 And Trump, who is a really skilled diplomat, Trump comes in there and in a very New Yorker way, hey, come on, we're all having a little fun roasting each other.

00:05:38.060 He goes, he was like, hey, that one, look, I'm over.

00:05:39.820 That's the one who attacked you last time.

00:05:41.320 But I said it was a good suit.

00:05:42.760 So he, Trump, you can tell, really doesn't want this Oval Office meeting to go south like it did last time.

00:05:48.460 And Zelensky, rather than being offended and sanctimonious like he was last time, he just dishes it right back at the reporter.

00:05:55.580 He says, yeah, but you're wearing the same suit.

00:05:57.460 I changed.

00:05:58.620 You, you're wearing the same suit. 0.88

00:06:00.520 You cheapskate.

00:06:01.240 You don't even, you probably only have one suit.

00:06:02.660 Anyway, it was a nice, it was a nice little exchange.

00:06:06.540 And it's significant.

00:06:08.520 It's significant.

00:06:09.820 Well, hold on.

00:06:10.460 I'll tell you why this is politically significant in one second.

00:06:13.760 First, though, I just have to, I don't want to be nitpicking too much.

00:06:17.980 But it wasn't really a suit in the sense that here's a picture of he's getting off the airplane and it's some kind of weird jacket over.

00:06:29.900 He is wearing a collared shirt this time.

00:06:31.640 So that's an improvement.

00:06:32.800 It's a black collared shirt.

00:06:34.880 There's no necktie.

00:06:36.220 I don't see a necktie in this picture.

00:06:38.460 So, look, I don't, we, we like to encourage the improvement.

00:06:43.140 But I couldn't help but notice when I look at the Ukrainian president that he looks very much like an Italian-American going to junior prom.

00:06:53.980 It, the, the black on black, the suit and kind of a weird cut.

00:07:00.720 Some of us who are former Italian-Americans who went to junior prom, we did wear neckties, black on black on black.

00:07:07.300 But it was a little, it's an improvement.

00:07:10.280 And you can tell what Zelensky wants to do here is split the baby.

00:07:16.400 And it's, it's okay.

00:07:17.520 It, it, it worked out all right.

00:07:19.640 Had Zelensky shown up to the White House again in the sweatsuit, it would have signified that he learned nothing.

00:07:27.580 Because Americans actually don't like the, it's not that they don't like that he wears sweatpants.

00:07:32.900 They, they think that he's artificial.

00:07:35.460 They think that he is putting on a show for everybody.

00:07:38.440 And they think that they're being taken for a ride.

00:07:43.000 That, that is, whether those intuitions are true or not, that is an impression that Americans have of Vladimir Zelensky.

00:07:50.720 They felt the last time he showed up to the White House, he acted in a way that was entitled and petulant and demanding and, and disrespectful.

00:08:01.760 And not putting on a tie to sit in the Oval Office, not putting on a jacket even to sit in the Oval Office, played into part of that.

00:08:07.960 And so I think it was very smart of Zelensky this time to put on at least something that vaguely looked like a suit.

00:08:13.340 Now, the reason that he wears the sweatpants is because he wants to portray to the world the image of a besieged leader during wartime who's always ready for battle.

00:08:24.380 And I actually get that in principle.

00:08:26.160 It's not the dumbest idea in the world.

00:08:27.980 I get the PR strategy.

00:08:29.480 It just hasn't always worked out.

00:08:31.380 And sometimes he looks kind of ridiculous when he shows up in Europe with all these different leaders, all of whom are wearing their nice suits. 0.70

00:08:37.640 And he's there wearing his fatigues. 0.92

00:08:39.260 It looks a little discordant.

00:08:40.960 But I get the idea in principle.

00:08:42.620 And so Zelensky actually had a tough job here, which is he had to maintain that image.

00:08:48.220 The tough leader besieged.

00:08:49.480 He didn't ask for this war.

00:08:50.400 Russia invaded.

00:08:51.540 He is constantly under threat of bombardment. 0.99

00:08:53.740 Putin wants to kill him.

00:08:54.800 And I'm showing respect to the United States. 0.94

00:08:57.720 I am not owed money by the United States.

00:08:59.960 The United States has not wronged me in any way.

00:09:02.260 I am not the enemy of Donald Trump.

00:09:03.940 I'm so very grateful for everything you've done, Trump and Vance, and more importantly, American people.

00:09:10.240 Thank you.

00:09:10.940 And I'd love to show you respect.

00:09:12.880 And if you could please just maybe send me a few more missiles and a little bit more money, please.

00:09:17.700 That'd be, I'd really get some bullets if you got them.

00:09:20.080 That'd be really nice.

00:09:21.160 So it is significant.

00:09:22.580 And his attitude in this meeting was much, much better.

00:09:28.660 You are beginning to see a softening of the reflexive anti-Ukraine attitude that had started to set in about six months ago.

00:09:38.060 Now Trump is speaking in a way that's a little tougher on Ukraine.

00:09:41.840 And we'll get to exactly what happened in this meeting in a moment.

00:09:44.680 But he's getting a little bit tougher on Ukraine.

00:09:46.900 You're seeing a softening even among the GOP base.

00:09:50.120 I'm talking about the hardline GOP base starting to warm up a little bit to supporting Ukraine.

00:09:57.580 Not as a matter of sweet liberal democracy in Eastern Europe, but as a matter of American empire opposing hostile interests.

00:10:04.980 So what happened in the meeting?

00:10:07.840 According to a Putin advisor, Trump and Putin spoke for 40 minutes on the phone.

00:10:14.680 So Trump meets with Zelensky, Trump meets with the European leaders, and then he just calls up Putin.

00:10:18.860 And Trump and Putin speak for 40 minutes on the phone.

00:10:21.940 Mind you, that big Alaska summit on Friday was only 90 minutes.

00:10:28.900 The actual meeting between Trump and Putin on Friday was 90 minutes.

00:10:32.460 He spoke for almost half that time by phone after this Zelensky meeting.

00:10:36.740 The Friday summit in Alaska, they ended that early.

00:10:39.860 They didn't even stay for lunch.

00:10:41.340 And they had their press conference, and it was confusing.

00:10:43.280 And Putin said they had an agreement.

00:10:44.460 Trump said they didn't have an agreement.

00:10:45.560 But they were kind of nice to each other, and they didn't get the things that they set out to get when they walked in there.

00:10:51.120 But they continued the negotiations.

00:10:52.760 And really what yesterday's meeting in the Oval Office was, was simply a continuation of the Friday summit.

00:10:59.580 I think what happened in the Friday summit is, Trump and Putin found themselves in a place where they, they, they got what they actually expected out of that summit.

00:11:10.980 And then it became a question of, okay, we'll propose this, that, and the other thing to Zelensky, propose this, that, and the other thing to Europe.

00:11:16.600 And they got out of there because they could just hurry this along and move.

00:11:20.140 The fact that this took place at the White House so soon after the Alaska summit, to me, it's all the same summit.

00:11:27.280 And they are working not merely on a ceasefire, but on a peace deal.

00:11:30.860 And some evidence for this is Trump being caught on a hot mic talking to French President Emmanuel Macron, I believe it was, and, and giving his candid impressions of the Putin meeting.

00:11:42.400 He says, I think he wants to do a deal with me, as crazy as that sounds.

00:12:01.840 Now, two things are going on here.

00:12:03.720 One, he's conveying a little bit of surprise.

00:12:07.680 Hey, hey, why is all, why are all the European leaders and why is Zelensky coming to the White House on such short notice today?

00:12:14.120 Because Putin is more eager for a deal than I thought he was.

00:12:18.720 That's the first thing.

00:12:20.860 So, assuming Trump is being totally sincere and totally candid here, he's saying, yeah, I flew to Alaska.

00:12:27.840 We, we achieved what, not what we were telling the press that we were demanding to achieve, not what we were signaling to each other to play a game of chicken that we wanted to achieve.

00:12:35.380 But I got what I wanted, and I'm now convinced he actually wants a peace deal.

00:12:40.580 And so, we got out of there, and that's why I called you guys in.

00:12:43.880 Crazy as that sounds.

00:12:45.520 Yeah, you didn't expect that.

00:12:46.640 But crazy as it sounds, that's what happened.

00:12:48.100 The second thing that's going on here is Trump is talking like a dealmaker.

00:12:52.620 The message he's trying to convey to Macron and to Europe and to Zelensky is, hey, guys, don't worry.

00:12:59.540 I got you something that's really good for us.

00:13:04.060 I don't know if it's so good for Vladimir.

00:13:06.620 Yeah, guys, you're not going to believe it.

00:13:08.480 This is crazy as it sounds.

00:13:11.240 He's offering us a lot of good stuff.

00:13:13.700 We're just, who knows, he didn't get into specifics here.

00:13:16.140 But the insinuation could be, he only wants us to give him the Donbass region.

00:13:20.380 You know, he only wants us to give him Luhansk and Donetsk.

00:13:23.720 You know, guys, this is pretty good.

00:13:25.360 He's not even going to demand those other two eastern regions.

00:13:27.660 And he's going to be okay with western security guarantees in Ukraine.

00:13:32.240 And actually, guys, this is pretty, we better make a deal quickly.

00:13:36.020 This is what it's about.

00:13:36.820 It's clear as day to me.

00:13:39.140 Trump wants a deal quickly.

00:13:40.700 And the reason he wants a deal quickly is when it starts to take a long time to cut a deal,

00:13:46.800 people get cold feet, people get big for their britches, people lose interest, and it goes away.

00:13:51.140 So he wants to make this happen fast.

00:13:52.780 That's what this language is about.

00:13:54.440 This to me explains a lot of Friday.

00:13:56.240 Okay, Vladimir, you're broadly open to a peace deal.

00:14:00.220 You're not making totally crazy demands.

00:14:02.360 You're open to western security guarantees.

00:14:04.280 Great.

00:14:04.620 I got what I need.

00:14:05.400 Save your filet mignon.

00:14:06.320 I got to go back and talk to Macron and Maloney and Keir Starmer and Zelensky.

00:14:12.860 And we're going to get that done.

00:14:15.100 This is full steam ahead.

00:14:17.300 Full steam ahead.

00:14:18.260 And what is the likelihood that we could end this now 11-year war quickly?

00:14:23.940 Well, what was the likelihood that Zelensky was ever going to take off the sweatsuit and put on a suit?

00:14:28.520 I don't know.

00:14:29.060 I feel pretty good about it.

00:14:31.640 Now, there's other stuff going on in our nation's capital.

00:14:35.000 Namely, ICE agents are mocking the weight and appearance of leftist protesters.

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00:16:11.400 In our nation's capital, this apparently by Navy Yard, there were some ICE agents who were coming up an escalator,

00:16:19.720 looks like from one of the metro stations.

00:16:21.960 They were coming up to, I don't know, go arrest a bunch of illegals.

00:16:26.460 Leftist protesters going down the escalator, heckling the ICE agents, yelling at them, telling them to quit their jobs.

00:16:33.340 And the ICE agents decided to give it back as good as they got it.

00:16:38.460 Give it up and stop! 1.00

00:16:46.140 Fucking move! 1.00

00:16:51.940 Come here! 1.00

00:16:54.180 You can choose to do something else!

00:16:56.600 You want to be a veterinarian?

00:16:58.380 You want to be a dogma?

00:16:59.660 You can choose to be a star lady.

00:17:01.180 You know, you could do something else.

00:17:07.240 You can be a veterinarian.

00:17:09.040 You can do this.

00:17:10.560 And what does the guy say?

00:17:11.720 He turns to her.

00:17:12.380 She is, if you were only listening,

00:17:14.540 she is a little, a little overweight. 0.83

00:17:17.540 I don't like to make fun of women's appearances. 1.00

00:17:20.680 I think that's wrong.

00:17:21.740 Actually, I think it's very ungentlemanly.

00:17:24.020 This ICE agent did not feel the same compunction.

00:17:26.260 He turns to her and he says, yeah, and you could eat a salad.

00:17:28.420 So, now, hold on.

00:17:32.400 I'm not defending the comment, per se.

00:17:35.820 This is not the sort of thing one should say to a woman, ever, even if the woman is awful. 0.97

00:17:41.140 This is, I'm not defending the comment, per se.

00:17:43.340 I am, however, defending this general approach to the protesters.

00:17:51.300 Let's put it that way.

00:17:52.120 Is that diplomatic enough?

00:17:54.620 I can't knock this ICE agent because this approach to the protesters is what every single law enforcement official in D.C.

00:18:01.240 and I think really throughout our country, certainly from the federal government, should be doing.

00:18:06.960 What he is doing here is establishing authority.

00:18:11.660 He is rather reminding this petulant woman of where the authority really lies. 1.00

00:18:20.020 Law enforcement is not supposed to be done by committee or by struggle sessions.

00:18:26.200 Law enforcement does not need to beg and plead and ask the permission of civilians to enforce the law and arrest criminals.

00:18:36.580 That's not how law enforcement works.

00:18:39.760 Okay?

00:18:40.320 The people, all the civilians have a say in how law enforcement works.

00:18:45.180 That say is at the ballot box.

00:18:46.820 And in November, the people, through their representative, through the Electoral College, also just the people in the popular vote, elected Trump, who was running, it was almost the top issue, on mass deportations of illegal aliens.

00:19:02.780 That ICE agent does not have to answer to that woman or to any of the other leftist hecklers. 0.95

00:19:08.120 This is the right response from law enforcement when these people are heckling, when they're trying to impede them, when they're trying to obstruct them, including Democrat elected officials who are trying to obstruct them.

00:19:19.180 The correct answer is shut up. 0.93

00:19:21.440 Shut your trap. 1.00

00:19:22.600 We don't care what you have to say. 0.98

00:19:24.040 Don't care about your opinion.

00:19:25.540 Doesn't matter to me at all.

00:19:27.000 We're going to go round up all of the illegals, and you can whine and cry about it, but it's going to go in one ear and out the other because you have no say in this. 0.97

00:19:34.180 You have no say in this.

00:19:35.220 You had a say in November, your side lost.

00:19:39.180 Thank goodness, your side lost.

00:19:41.440 And now we have a mandate, not merely from the Constitution, from federal statutes, from the legislature, from the courts.

00:19:50.620 We have a mandate from the people to go enforce the law.

00:19:54.260 And so you can whine and cry, but I just want you to know, just for your own good, shut your trap, you're wasting your ear.

00:20:01.480 Is that too harsh? 0.75

00:20:03.000 I don't know.

00:20:03.600 I wouldn't, as I said, I would never make fun of someone's appearance necessarily.

00:20:08.500 But this attitude, I would love to see this attitude from all of federal law enforcement.

00:20:15.020 This is dad reestablishing authority in the home when the kids get a little bratty, when they get a little out of control, and daddy has to come in and say, zip it, knock it off.

00:20:29.220 One more word, you get a timeout.

00:20:31.180 Two more words, you're getting a belt or something.

00:20:34.060 I don't know.

00:20:34.560 I don't know.

00:20:35.040 We don't want to belt the leftist protesters unless they commit crimes.

00:20:38.840 But this is good stuff.

00:20:41.080 We're just going to do it.

00:20:43.000 And then the people are going to thank us.

00:20:46.140 And culture is often downstream of politics.

00:20:48.040 Now, speaking of D.C., again, maybe this is the nitpicky show.

00:20:53.940 Why didn't Zelensky wear a tie?

00:20:56.220 Here's my, I got a little nitpicky in D.C.

00:20:58.040 I'm very happy to see that Trump is taking control of the federal district, as is totally his right by the Constitution and by the D.C.

00:21:06.340 Home Rule Act.

00:21:07.720 And I'm glad to see that they're helping to get some of the homeless off the street.

00:21:11.420 The situation's better than it's been.

00:21:12.680 There's still crazy homeless people, shirtless, running around, muttering to themselves.

00:21:15.680 But it's gotten a lot better.

00:21:17.240 And the crime on the street has apparently improved dramatically.

00:21:20.820 And so that's great.

00:21:21.680 But I'm walking right by the White House.

00:21:23.960 I was in D.C. to emcee an event for the Department of Education that was done in collaboration with Brave Books, Kirk Cameron's company.

00:21:32.400 And it was a wonderful, great deal of fun.

00:21:34.560 So I'm walking around by the White House.

00:21:37.500 I look up and I see the Pride Progress flag.

00:21:41.440 You know the Pride Progress flag?

00:21:43.940 That's the one, that's like the terrorist pride flag.

00:21:47.460 It's the one with the black and the brown and the, that one.

00:21:50.920 It's still hanging up in D.C.

00:21:53.300 And so, look, I know that the federal officials are, they're busy.

00:21:58.320 They have to arrest aliens and the carjackers and the murderers and the rapists.

00:22:01.940 Whenever you get a minute, could you please tear down all of those banners?

00:22:07.120 Can you please tear them down?

00:22:08.220 I don't want to look at them.

00:22:10.460 And I don't care if the residents of D.C. want to look at them.

00:22:13.820 It's not their city.

00:22:15.100 It's my city.

00:22:15.920 That city is different from other cities.

00:22:20.740 Washington, D.C.

00:22:21.540 And this is the message of the federal takeover of the federal district.

00:22:25.680 Washington, D.C. is different from New York and L.A. and Chicago and Oakland and San Francisco.

00:22:31.440 Washington, D.C. does not belong to the residents. 1.00

00:22:33.900 They have a stupid license plate in Washington, D.C. 1.00

00:22:35.740 They shouldn't even be allowed to have that. 1.00

00:22:37.020 It says taxation without representation because the residents of Washington, D.C.

00:22:43.260 don't really have representation in Congress because they're not supposed to because they don't live in a state.

00:22:49.300 If they want to live in a state, they can go move to a state.

00:22:52.000 There are a lot of states right around D.C.

00:22:53.460 There's Maryland.

00:22:54.540 There's Virginia.

00:22:55.760 There's West Virginia.

00:22:56.920 They can go move to one of those if they want.

00:22:59.080 If they want to live in the federal district, they don't have congressmen there.

00:23:02.820 Because you can't give the nation's capital to one state.

00:23:07.400 That's the whole reason the federal district was made in the first place.

00:23:10.420 So I know there are going to be some squishes and libertarians and whatever who say,

00:23:15.160 well, if the D.C. residents want to have pride flags on their streets,

00:23:19.220 if D.C. residents want to have BLM Square to laud and exalt drug dealers and murderers,

00:23:26.840 that's their right.

00:23:28.680 It's not their right.

00:23:29.460 They don't have any right to that.

00:23:30.860 That's my district.

00:23:33.420 That district is now run by Donald Trump and the Republican Congress.

00:23:37.600 And I think it would be a great sign of who really runs the federal district to rip down

00:23:44.300 those signs.

00:23:44.840 Because also, they put them up, I guess, for Pride Month.

00:23:48.440 It went from Pride Day to Pride Week to Pride Month.

00:23:50.220 It's August.

00:23:51.180 It's August.

00:23:52.460 Guys, it's August.

00:23:55.200 We are now fully in Pride Quarter.

00:23:58.520 And guess what?

00:23:59.060 There's another Pride Month coming up because October is LGBT History Month.

00:24:04.020 We are now at Pride third of the year.

00:24:08.020 Get those flags down and burn them, please, if you wouldn't mind.

00:24:12.180 I'm not demanding you burn them, but that would be a good thing.

00:24:16.760 I would support it.

00:24:18.220 Now, speaking of LGBT, a homosexual man has just described in perfectly illustrative terms

00:24:25.200 his process of purchasing children through IVF.

00:24:29.920 And it is maybe the clearest look at what IVF really is, necessarily is, that I've ever heard

00:24:38.280 by way of TikTok and social media.

00:24:40.520 We'll get to that in one second.

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00:25:42.820 A homosexual with poster board and sticky notes has just given his social media followers 1.00

00:25:48.140 an update on his process to purchase babies. 0.89

00:25:54.080 Quick recap.

00:25:55.140 We're having two babies.

00:25:56.120 We bought 40 frozen eggs from our egg donor.

00:25:57.980 28 of those eggs survived the thawing process and then were fertilized.

00:26:01.560 12 of those fertilized eggs did not develop into usable embryos.

00:26:05.080 So that makes 16 embryos that were sent to PGT testing.

00:26:08.040 And we just got in those PGT testing results.

00:26:10.660 Starting with Joshua's side, his one embryo that was rated good to average came back as

00:26:14.860 chaotic, which checks out.

00:26:16.640 That one is no longer usable.

00:26:18.160 This one, which was originally graded good, came back aneuploid.

00:26:22.020 Chromosome 13 only had one in the pair.

00:26:24.700 On my side, the one that was originally graded as bad, indeed came back aneuploid.

00:26:29.700 Its chromosome 13 also only had one in the pair.

00:26:32.380 This one, which was originally graded as good, came back with no DNA detected.

00:26:36.340 So that's no longer usable.

00:26:37.520 This one, too, which was also originally graded as good, came back aneuploid.

00:26:41.800 Chromosome number four only had one in the pair.

00:26:43.800 Lastly, this one, which was originally graded good to average, came back as high mosaic.

00:26:48.300 Chromosome number two had three when it was supposed to have two.

00:26:50.840 All in all, we're so happy that we decided to purchase as many frozen eggs as we could,

00:26:55.800 40, because that leaves us with these 10 embryos for two babies. 0.99

00:26:59.940 And we're told that the majority of journeys take two to three transfers to get pregnant.

00:27:03.980 Purchased, usable, good to average.

00:27:12.720 His words, those are not my words, his words, describing his babies, potentially his babies. 1.00

00:27:21.960 Well, his babies, I guess, but he'll probably kill most of them. 1.00

00:27:25.860 In fact, he's admitting that he'll kill most of them. 1.00

00:27:27.480 But his words are not, we conceived, we made love, we begat.

00:27:33.580 These things are not really possible for him or not in his current lifestyle.

00:27:38.020 So we purchased.

00:27:39.340 I'm so happy we purchased 40 embryos.

00:27:42.260 We purchased.

00:27:43.320 And some of them were usable.

00:27:44.520 Are children to be used?

00:27:46.940 Some people think children are to be used.

00:27:49.320 Are children to be purchased?

00:27:51.000 Oh, they were purchased by, I don't know, the Ottoman Empire.

00:27:56.780 You know, they were purchased by slave traders.

00:28:00.200 They were purchased and became janissaries in decadent and terrible cultures. 1.00

00:28:07.300 Do we think children are to be purchased and to be used?

00:28:12.040 And then do we grade our babies? 0.99

00:28:14.020 If you are a normal person, not like him, if you're a normal person and, you know, your wife gives birth 1.00

00:28:19.260 and the baby comes out.

00:28:20.880 Do you look at the baby and you say, you know, I guess I would give him a grade of good to average.

00:28:26.540 He's not, I don't know.

00:28:28.280 I wouldn't say he's an A plus.

00:28:30.080 I would say that my son is, he's a B minus, you know.

00:28:34.960 And do I, hmm, do I really want a B minus?

00:28:38.580 Kids are expensive, you know, cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to raise a kid to age 18.

00:28:42.220 Do I really want, I don't know.

00:28:44.400 You know what, let's just, he's not going to be usable for us.

00:28:47.600 Nurse, nurse, this one I think is below average and he's not going to be usable.

00:28:53.720 So we would like a refund.

00:28:55.000 And if you're not, I know, maybe you're not willing to give a refund on this one.

00:28:59.380 So whatever, he's not, we're going to have to discard him.

00:29:02.860 We're going to, we're going to try again.

00:29:05.480 Luckily, we purchased as many embryos as, not even we purchased as many eggs as possible.

00:29:10.580 That would be screwed up enough.

00:29:12.280 We purchased as many embryos as possible.

00:29:14.500 What's an embryo?

00:29:15.320 An embryo is a very small person. 0.86

00:29:19.560 Sick, sick stuff. 0.87

00:29:22.340 Now, two points. 0.91

00:29:24.000 One, I'm Catholic, as you might know.

00:29:27.240 And Catholics and some other more traditional, you know, Eastern Orthodox and some, even maybe some traditional Protestant denominations.

00:29:36.620 Venerate relics.

00:29:37.680 What is a relic?

00:29:38.420 This is an ancient Christian practice.

00:29:39.700 It goes all the way back to the Apostolic Age.

00:29:41.260 A good example is when Polycarp died and early Christians gathered together his bones and venerated them as part of their religious rites.

00:29:49.880 You know, if you go to churches in Rome or in the East, you'll see, you know, the skull of St. Thomas Aquinas or the chains that held St. Peter or a piece of flesh or a piece of bone of some great saint.

00:30:01.720 It is not legal to sell relics.

00:30:06.160 It's not legal to sell relics because they're human bodies.

00:30:11.820 That's why you can't do it.

00:30:14.440 Canon law also forbids the selling of relics, but like regular civil laws forbid that because it's body part.

00:30:19.840 And you're not even, take the relics out of it for a second.

00:30:22.180 You're not allowed to just sell bones and skulls and human body parts in general.

00:30:26.060 You get arrested for that.

00:30:27.080 If you try to sell a human skull on eBay, the feds will show up at your door and arrest you.

00:30:32.780 But we can sell a living person?

00:30:35.780 I'm not allowed to sell a tiny little fragment of a bone of a man who lived 1,500 years ago.

00:30:42.840 I'm not allowed to do that.

00:30:43.720 But I'm allowed to sell 40 living, not just even living human cells, but like whole persons with like full DNA that will develop into full people that are still alive. 0.96

00:31:00.040 I can sell 40 of them to this deviant, horrid man. 0.69

00:31:08.320 How is that possible? 1.00

00:31:10.060 Now, the next thing people are going to say is, well, Michael, look, this guy should not be buying babies because he's a homosexual and we don't like that.

00:31:18.680 And we don't think two fellows should raise a kid or we don't think two women should raise a kid. 1.00

00:31:22.260 But we do think that a husband and a wife who are struggling with infertility, and I know the struggle.

00:31:27.440 It's a tough struggle.

00:31:28.540 We do think that a husband and a wife should be able to do this.

00:31:31.760 Okay, well, you still have the problem of purchasing the babies, considering the babies usable or not usable, discarding most of them, killing most of the babies, grading your children, 0.53

00:31:43.840 treating human beings as commodities to be bought and sold at market for higher or lower prices rather than as human beings, proper subjects who are not merely to be discarded, destroyed because they're a little too short or a little too fat or something.

00:32:00.460 You still have that same problem.

00:32:02.520 And just on top of that, as long as IVF exists, it will serve the cause of homosexual and single adoption. 0.97

00:32:10.140 Because that is a market demand that it actually meets, that it reliably meets.

00:32:16.760 And because we live in a culture, at least for now, in which marriage has been redefined out of reason and out of existence,

00:32:23.760 and in which individuals are understood to have precisely the same rights as married couples, actually married couples.

00:32:32.120 So you're always going to have that.

00:32:33.760 There's always going to be greater demand for IVF among people who, in principle, will not conceive over normal couples who are just maybe struggling a little with infertility.

00:32:46.540 And IVF being a marketplace will always commoditize human life.

00:32:53.320 In some ways, I've got to give this guy some props because he's just describing honestly what IVF is.

00:33:00.940 He's just, he's just revealing, he's saying the quiet part out loud.

00:33:05.720 Because most people don't want to admit what the process necessarily is.

00:33:10.300 But it's horrifying, that's what it certainly necessarily is. 0.81

00:33:12.920 Okay, speaking of weird sex stuff, a top Israeli official has reportedly been arrested in Nevada for participation in a child sex operation. 0.74

00:33:21.560 And then he was released on bail and fled to Israel.

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00:34:41.320 My favorite comment is from Zachary Hens, 2108.

00:34:44.280 It says, as a musician, hearing Michael Knowles sing the jazz standards, someone to watch over me made my day.

00:34:49.120 It's a great song, isn't it?

00:34:50.380 You know, it came to me when we were talking about that clip of the Mormon girl on the dating show,

00:34:56.880 and she didn't get picked because she said, I want someone to go scuba diving with me,

00:35:00.240 and I want someone to be my buddy, and I want someone to, you know, go mountain climbing with me.

00:35:04.500 And I said, you know, that's not, she's a nice girl.

00:35:06.740 I'm sure she'll be fine.

00:35:07.280 But what a guy wants, in part, is to hear the girl say, you know what, I want someone to watch over me.

00:35:16.120 So true.

00:35:16.800 They also, speaking of jazz standards, they also probably want to hear about making whoopee.

00:35:20.060 Am I right?

00:35:20.960 Am I right?

00:35:21.700 Okay. 0.84

00:35:22.500 Speaking of weird sex stuff, crazy story.

00:35:27.740 An Israeli official, here's the headline.

00:35:29.440 I didn't even believe this headline when I saw it.

00:35:31.180 An Israeli official is arrested in Nevada on child sex charges.

00:35:35.260 So first thing I thought was, okay, this is some low-level Israeli, maybe he works for the government, maybe he probably doesn't. 0.66

00:35:42.460 But if he does work for the government, he's probably some really low-level guy.

00:35:46.100 And I don't know, what did he do?

00:35:47.900 He went to a brothel, or he got caught in a girl, might have been a little underage, and maybe that was it, right?

00:35:56.580 That would be horrible enough.

00:35:59.280 But it's a lot worse than that.

00:36:00.620 A top cybersecurity official for the Israeli government, this guy Tom Alexandrovich, was arrested, this is according to reports,

00:36:12.100 facing felony charges of luring a child with a computer for a sex act, according to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department.

00:36:21.000 According to the department, a press release, a multi-agency operation targeting child sex predators led to the arrest of eight individuals over the last two weeks.

00:36:30.800 That includes 38-year-old Tom Artyom Alexandrovich, who is the executive director of the Israel Cyber Directorate.

00:36:39.240 So, what is the Israel Cyber Directorate?

00:36:42.220 Is that just some random nonprofit?

00:36:43.980 No, it's apparently, reportedly, a government agency that operates under the office of the prime minister.

00:36:52.980 What?

00:36:54.360 You think of every way this story might be slightly less bad than it seems.

00:36:58.120 Maybe he was, he's in Nevada, maybe he was at a strip club, there are plenty of those there.

00:37:02.280 Or a brothel, I think that's legal in Nevada. 1.00

00:37:04.380 And maybe, I don't know, they say it's underage, maybe the girl said she was 18,

00:37:09.080 but she was actually 17 and three quarters.

00:37:12.540 That'd be bad, but you can, maybe it was an accident, maybe it was a misunderstanding.

00:37:15.440 No.

00:37:16.720 The guy was, according to the charges, luring a child with a computer for a sex act.

00:37:25.740 And he was a top Israeli cybersecurity official.

00:37:30.260 The way you know this guy was important is that Netanyahu's office issued a statement.

00:37:34.760 And this is where it gets really weird.

00:37:38.200 Because Netanyahu's office, one, for Netanyahu's office to issue a statement at all means this guy matters.

00:37:43.860 But then the statement not only pled his innocence, the statement denied that the man was arrested at all.

00:37:53.520 So the prime minister's office said,

00:37:56.000 a state employee who traveled to the U.S. for professional matters was questioned by American authorities during his stay.

00:38:00.840 The employee, the employee who does not hold a diplomatic visa, was not arrested, and returned to Israel as scheduled.

00:38:06.700 The Guardian is reporting that he was arrested and charged with a felony.

00:38:11.820 You heard the statement from the Las Vegas Police Department.

00:38:16.080 Even, okay, so the Netanyahu office says he was questioned by American authorities.

00:38:21.740 Well, how do you get questioned by American authorities if you're not arrested?

00:38:24.060 And then why is the Guardian reporting that he was charged with a felony, a very, very serious felony?

00:38:31.600 Netanyahu said, no, it was no big deal.

00:38:33.060 Then he goes back to Israel, and that's that.

00:38:34.640 Okay.

00:38:35.800 I don't know what the real story is here.

00:38:37.880 I think we should get to the bottom of what the real story is here.

00:38:40.960 And I think the United States should insist on extradition.

00:38:44.940 And this is where things get a little weird.

00:38:47.280 Because certain countries will extradite criminals back to the United States, and certain won't.

00:38:51.760 You think of Roman Polanski.

00:38:52.980 Roman Polanski is wanted for statutory rape in America, and he fled to France, and he's lived the rest of his life there.

00:38:58.200 And has made movies since then, and, you know, he's, didn't he win an Academy Award since then?

00:39:02.900 Or is that, anyway.

00:39:04.360 Certain countries won't extradite.

00:39:07.200 Israel, according to treaty obligations, does extradite criminals to the United States.

00:39:12.760 So we say, okay, well, that's good.

00:39:14.080 Let's get this guy to come to the U.S. then, because this is a serious crime.

00:39:17.240 The problem is, there is domestic legislation in Israel that says that they will not extradite Israeli nationals.

00:39:25.060 So the domestic laws are contradicting the treaty obligations.

00:39:31.400 And there are certain exceptions to extradition in Israel, like if a person in the government is wanted for a political crime.

00:39:37.220 But this isn't a political crime, I don't think.

00:39:39.020 This is a weird sex crime.

00:39:44.480 I am off, as I say, my opinion on geopolitics, on not just the state of Israel, but on foreign aid generally, and support of other nations and alliances,

00:39:55.080 is, it's probably the least satisfying view in the public life today, because it's the most prudential view in public life,

00:40:02.300 because it's the least ideological view in public life, because it happens to be correct.

00:40:05.880 But my view is, if an American ally, let's say England, some English official comes to America, and he, I don't know what he does, he gets a speeding ticket.

00:40:17.560 We just let him off the hook.

00:40:19.360 If an American official gets into a bar fight, or sorry, if an English official gets into a bar fight even, you know, it's like we're talking about assault here.

00:40:26.960 We're talking about something that could bring criminal charges.

00:40:29.420 But look, he's an ally.

00:40:30.860 We're talking a guy who's here, maybe in a diplomatic role.

00:40:34.240 And we're just brushing that sort of thing under the rug to maintain political alliances.

00:40:38.000 I get it.

00:40:38.760 I see it.

00:40:39.300 I have really no problem with it. 0.85

00:40:43.400 Luring a child for a sex act with a computer?

00:40:48.360 By our greatest ally in the Middle East that we fund to the tune of a bazillion dollars a year?

00:40:53.100 And I don't think so.

00:40:56.020 By all rights, this guy should be extradited, put on trial.

00:40:59.580 If he's convicted, he should be drawn and quartered.

00:41:01.240 Though, to even to temper that a little bit, the reason not to give child sex predators the death penalty is because then it just takes away an incentive for them not to murder their victim. 0.61

00:41:12.580 So, actually, even in a prudential way, you don't.

00:41:14.300 But this is really bad.

00:41:18.200 And the prime minister's office saying, oh, no, he wasn't arrested, nothing to see here, move along, move along.

00:41:24.360 I don't think so.

00:41:25.120 This is a serious, this is not a bar fight.

00:41:27.040 This is not jaywalking.

00:41:28.240 This is not speeding.

00:41:29.300 This is about as terrible a crime as you can imagine.

00:41:32.840 And this story cannot go away.

00:41:34.680 And this guy should probably be extradited and he should probably face charges in America.

00:41:37.980 And is that going to happen?

00:41:42.200 I want an explanation.

00:41:43.780 I want an explanation from the state of Israel.

00:41:45.740 I want more information from the Las Vegas Police Department.

00:41:49.620 We don't let this go under the rug.

00:41:52.300 If an Israeli wants to come here and run up a big casino tab in Vegas and not pay his tab, you know, whatever.

00:41:59.940 If he wants to come here and, I don't know, crash his car into a telephone pole and, I don't know, litter.

00:42:06.180 And do, I don't know, commit any manner of low-level crimes.

00:42:09.020 I don't know, smoke a joint.

00:42:09.920 That's probably legal now.

00:42:11.100 Whatever.

00:42:11.460 I get it.

00:42:12.440 But a crime like this?

00:42:17.080 We don't, we can't let people off the hook for this.

00:42:20.560 And if a supposed ally of ours is not willing to take, forget about extradite.

00:42:25.500 If he's not willing to take this seriously, if the strategy is just deny till you die, oh, that's not the right behavior.

00:42:33.360 And that needs to be reexamined at the top level.

00:42:35.580 Okay, speaking of the Holy Land, really good news.

00:42:38.600 There's a chart that was going viral.

00:42:42.420 Estimated adult conversions to Catholicism in the U.S.

00:42:44.980 You know, listen, I'm a macro snapper.

00:42:46.680 I'm a papist.

00:42:47.200 There's no doubt about that.

00:42:48.360 I don't always talk about that as the story, like every day for most of this show's existence.

00:42:54.480 That's not like the main story.

00:42:56.000 But Catholicism right now is becoming a really big news story.

00:43:01.000 This is in part why my docu-series, The Pope and the Fuhrer, The Secret Vatican Files of World War II, is doing well on Daily Wire Plus right now.

00:43:07.200 And you can watch it exclusively on Daily Wire Plus if you subscribe.

00:43:10.740 There's just something happening.

00:43:13.000 We can feel it in the air, but a lot of people are converting to Catholicism and to a lesser degree Eastern Orthodoxy and to a much lesser degree returning to mainline Protestantism.

00:43:19.800 But there's just a resurgence in faith, in particular Catholic faith.

00:43:23.980 There's this chart.

00:43:25.840 Estimated adult conversions to Catholicism in the U.S., 2,000 to 2025.

00:43:30.700 Chart goes from 180,000 down to 40,000.

00:43:33.360 And here you have 2,000.

00:43:35.480 Probably around 170,000 adult conversions annually.

00:43:38.020 And then it just goes down, down, down, down, down, down.

00:43:40.900 Down, down, down, even more, more, more.

00:43:42.880 Down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down to 2021.

00:43:46.520 And then spikes up like a hockey stick.

00:43:50.120 Now, way, way up.

00:43:52.020 Way up, back almost to where we were in 2000.

00:43:54.400 Which, again, is not great.

00:43:55.400 You know, people are still leaving the church.

00:43:57.360 People who were baptized as infants are still leaving the church.

00:43:59.380 So there's all sorts of problems.

00:44:00.320 But the adult conversions spiking like crazy.

00:44:05.100 So you look at the other chart.

00:44:06.400 Annual additions to the U.S. Catholic population.

00:44:09.000 Births from infant baptisms, okay, going down.

00:44:11.820 And legal immigration is flat.

00:44:14.540 And illegal immigration jumps it up a little bit.

00:44:16.680 But you're seeing a really interesting spike in adult conversions.

00:44:19.900 What's this about?

00:44:21.500 I will tell you.

00:44:22.360 Or rather, Alexei de Tocqueville will tell you.

00:44:24.080 Because there are people who are saying, this is crazy, man.

00:44:25.840 Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

00:44:27.480 They were all hardcore Protestants.

00:44:28.920 And sure, on my line, you know, I have a line going back to the Mayflower in this country.

00:44:32.500 Mayflower, which is an excellent cigar company.

00:44:34.040 And they were hardcore Protestants.

00:44:36.180 Very, very anti-Catholic.

00:44:37.980 Very puritanical.

00:44:38.900 But Alexei de Tocqueville, who is the greatest observer of the American political dynamic,

00:44:45.900 probably ever wrote his famous book, Democracy in America in the 19th century.

00:44:49.640 And he said, in a little-discussed passage in volume two,

00:44:53.400 Two things must here be accurately distinguished.

00:44:57.960 Equality inclines men to wish to form their own opinions.

00:45:01.140 But on the other hand, it imbues them with the taste and the idea of unity, simplicity,

00:45:06.080 and impartiality in the power which governs society.

00:45:11.160 Men living in democratic ages are therefore very prone to shake off all religious authority.

00:45:18.220 But if they consent to subject themselves to any authority of this kind,

00:45:23.220 they choose at least that it should be single and uniform.

00:45:27.000 Do you understand what he's saying?

00:45:28.440 He's saying, look, I know America is really Protestant and really anti-

00:45:32.240 Super-duper, very, very religious in the Protestant religion. 0.99

00:45:36.080 But very, very democratic.

00:45:41.720 So very, very religious, very, very Protestant, but very democratic,

00:45:45.400 which means that over time, America is going to incline in two directions.

00:45:50.780 It's going to become less religious, generally.

00:45:54.920 But where religion is preserved and increases, it's going to become more Catholic. 0.82

00:46:00.340 This is the crazy prediction of Alexei de Tocqueville.

00:46:02.420 So over time, America is going to either give up religion or it's going to become very Catholic. 0.97

00:46:08.840 And so the founding religious view is actually that that's the least stable thing.

00:46:16.520 And why is it?

00:46:18.120 Because

00:46:18.560 in an age of equality and democracy, people are going to want to shake off all religious authority.

00:46:25.820 But if they do want religious authority, they want it to be equal, single and uniform.

00:46:31.660 Not, this group is Methodist, and this group is Presbyterian, and this group is Baptist, and this group is Anabaptist, and this group is, they don't like that.

00:46:40.980 Now, religious powers, not radiating from a common center, are naturally repugnant to their minds, to the democratic mind.

00:46:49.920 And they almost as readily conceive that there should be no religion as that there should be several.

00:46:55.060 I think this is a brilliant observation from Tocqueville, who's a very brilliant observer.

00:46:59.300 I think that is what's happening.

00:47:01.440 I think there's more to it.

00:47:02.320 There's also that new atheism from the 2000s is just so lame, and it was always contrived and fake, and so that's falling away.

00:47:08.580 It was just too shallow to last.

00:47:10.720 Also, COVID.

00:47:11.840 I think you have to look at COVID here.

00:47:13.940 The isolation, the despair of COVID, I think, sends us right back into thinking about the eternal things, and especially into a sacramental theology that involves the physical world.

00:47:23.020 We were talking about relics earlier, but sacraments too.

00:47:24.920 That's there.

00:47:25.520 And one last explanation, which not a lot of people have talked about.

00:47:29.100 Now, the change happens in 2021.

00:47:34.060 What happened in 2021?

00:47:36.320 What year did Father Mike Schmitz launch Bible in a Year, which became the number one podcast in the world?

00:47:42.940 What year was that?

00:47:45.340 It was 2021.

00:47:48.160 Podcasting, the new democratic form of mass media.

00:47:54.220 Father Mike Schmitz puts us just the Bible.

00:47:56.360 He's just reading the Bible and then talking about the Bible a little bit each episode.

00:48:00.080 That's where the turn happened, and it's adult convergence.

00:48:03.660 So it's people who could listen to podcasts, who could take this seriously.

00:48:06.820 A recognition that the new media plays some role here, and the new media are very much part of the democratic spirit, and I think Tocqueville was right.

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