The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1805 - BREAKING： President Trump Is Not Dead

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00:00:30.000 Is President Trump dead?

00:00:34.600 No. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:55.040 Welcome back to the show.

00:00:57.040 President Trump, not dead, but might move over 2 million Gazans out of the Gaza Strip 0.99

00:01:03.340 to where, we're not sure. It costs a lot of money.

00:01:07.780 And then we're going to build big, beautiful, I don't know.

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00:02:37.140 I'm sitting on my chair, enjoying my Labor Day weekend,

00:02:41.940 and sweet little Alisa turns to me,

00:02:43.860 Mac, Mac, is Trump dead?

00:02:49.780 The what?

00:02:50.740 That's what social media is saying.

00:02:52.380 You look, social media the whole weekend.

00:02:56.660 Is Trump dead?

00:02:58.860 There were, according to one report,

00:03:01.420 158,000 posts on X that specifically said Trump is dead.

00:03:07.440 There were another 42,000 that said Trump died.

00:03:11.740 Many, many, many others with various permutations of that phrase.

00:03:16.220 One TikTok alone suggesting that Trump had died got three and a half million views.

00:03:22.000 That was all instantly.

00:03:23.120 That was all within one day.

00:03:26.420 Headline, is Trump dead?

00:03:28.220 Answer.

00:03:28.760 No, he's not.

00:03:29.420 Okay, moving on.

00:03:30.520 Can we get to actual news?

00:03:32.620 Why was everyone wondering if Trump had died?

00:03:35.860 I've investigated the story.

00:03:37.600 I've tried to get to the bottom of it.

00:03:39.160 And from what I can tell,

00:03:40.620 the whole reason is that he went golfing on Labor Day weekend,

00:03:44.960 and he had a bruise on his hand.

00:03:49.320 That is why all of social media thought that the president of the United States was dead.

00:03:55.100 It wasn't just domestically, internationally.

00:03:57.960 Russian TV had this to say.

00:04:02.740 Now the whole world is saying,

00:04:05.360 ah, Trump has a bruise on his hand.

00:04:08.640 The British queen also had a bruise,

00:04:11.300 and then she died.

00:04:15.320 Everybody dies.

00:04:18.640 Whether or not they have a bruise.

00:04:19.760 People are mortal.

00:04:21.540 That's it.

00:04:22.160 Trump's gone.

00:04:22.780 There's a kind of irony to it,

00:04:25.540 but this was actually the take.

00:04:27.640 He has a bruise.

00:04:29.280 You know, my great-grandpa had a bruise once.

00:04:31.580 Then he died. 0.98

00:04:32.360 Trump is dead.

00:04:33.340 What is this about?

00:04:35.980 I think that this kind of rumor,

00:04:38.080 these spreads sometimes.

00:04:39.360 They'll say some random person died.

00:04:40.740 He didn't really die.

00:04:42.300 I think part of the reason why you're hearing the Trump health rumors

00:04:46.100 is because they can't hit him on anything else.

00:04:49.280 I think this might be the best they've got.

00:04:51.120 Because they can't hit him on,

00:04:53.940 I don't know,

00:04:54.720 immigration.

00:04:55.740 They can't hit him on war and peace.

00:04:59.040 He's not launched World War III.

00:05:01.220 He's actually been very popular when it comes to his foreign policy.

00:05:04.820 They can't knock him on the tariffs.

00:05:06.640 Remember,

00:05:07.000 oh, the tariffs were going to destroy the world,

00:05:08.820 and the economy was going to collapse,

00:05:10.320 and the bond market was in shambles,

00:05:11.760 and then that didn't happen.

00:05:13.880 They can't really hit him on any of that.

00:05:15.560 So the best they can do is say and hope that he's died.

00:05:24.020 I think that's really what it comes down to.

00:05:26.360 And there's a little bit of a reactive aspect,

00:05:29.040 because Biden really did seem to be on the brink of death

00:05:32.300 for most of his presidency,

00:05:33.420 and he would kind of disappear for periods,

00:05:36.040 and he would wander off the stage.

00:05:37.780 But I knew this was BS,

00:05:39.000 because I saw Trump up close and personal last Tuesday.

00:05:43.360 I was in a very small room called the cabinet room,

00:05:46.360 and not only did he not look like he was on the brink of death,

00:05:50.700 he had more energy than his cabinet secretaries,

00:05:53.740 most of whom are much younger than him.

00:05:56.560 The thing went for four hours.

00:05:58.100 I was exhausted.

00:05:58.940 I was standing up the whole time,

00:06:00.560 and Trump just going and going.

00:06:01.820 I look over.

00:06:02.400 I'm not going to name names,

00:06:03.200 but some of the cabinet secretaries looked like

00:06:04.900 they were about to collapse,

00:06:06.440 and Trump keeps going.

00:06:07.580 So I think this is it.

00:06:09.420 This is the culmination of 10 years of Trump

00:06:12.620 wearing down his opponents.

00:06:14.660 They can't call him a fascist.

00:06:16.520 They can't call him a Nazi.

00:06:17.680 They can't call him a murderer. 0.99

00:06:19.040 They can't call him a rapist. 0.99

00:06:20.300 They can't call him a Russian. 0.99

00:06:22.260 They can't call him,

00:06:23.100 they can't go after him really on anything.

00:06:25.640 So at this point, what they're saying is, 1.00

00:06:27.320 please die. 1.00

00:06:28.520 Please just die. 1.00

00:06:29.800 They, in fact, justified killing him. 1.00

00:06:32.260 They set up the conditions for him to be assassinated.

00:06:34.980 He very nearly was assassinated. 0.63

00:06:36.560 He got a bullet through the ear.

00:06:38.340 He then was almost assassinated.

00:06:39.860 He's done everything, and that's it.

00:06:42.720 So expect more of this.

00:06:44.200 There's going to be more virality.

00:06:45.720 You know, Trump, his tie was a bit askew yesterday.

00:06:49.580 Is he dead?

00:06:50.520 Is he dead now?

00:06:51.840 Please.

00:06:52.920 This is our only hope as Democrats.

00:06:54.880 Okay.

00:06:55.540 Now, speaking of President Trump and death, I guess,

00:06:58.860 really surprising report coming out of the Washington Post.

00:07:05.660 Gaza post-war plans envision voluntary relocation of the entire population.

00:07:13.500 Now, I say this is surprising, not because Trump hasn't proposed it before.

00:07:17.860 Trump proposed earlier this year to get all the Gazans out of Gaza temporarily,

00:07:22.080 and then he would build a big, beautiful hotel and casino somewhere,

00:07:26.080 and then they could all come back in, but it would be really nice.

00:07:28.760 This, however, has a lot more specificity to it.

00:07:31.760 So this is coming out of the deep state paper of record, the Washington Post.

00:07:35.860 The Trump administration and international partners are discussing proposals to build

00:07:39.520 a Riviera of the Middle East on the rubble of Gaza. 0.87

00:07:43.040 One would establish U.S. control and pay Palestinians to leave.

00:07:47.440 What does this come from?

00:07:49.360 It's a 38-page document circulating the administration called

00:07:52.720 the Gaza Reconstruction Economic Acceleration and Transformation Trust, or GREAT.

00:08:00.000 GREAT, did you catch it?

00:08:01.980 GREAT, and according to the report, this was developed by some Israelis 1.00

00:08:08.620 who were involved in creating the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,

00:08:12.640 and the financial planning was conducted by a team from Boston Consulting Group.

00:08:16.080 Okay, now I know everyone's immediate reaction.

00:08:19.880 What the hell is this about?

00:08:21.160 Why is America getting dragged into some awful conflict in the Middle East?

00:08:24.940 And even if it doesn't seem like a conflict right now,

00:08:27.840 it's not going to win us any friends.

00:08:29.080 It's not going to help influence people.

00:08:30.440 We're kicking out two million Gazans, 1.00

00:08:32.900 and we're involving ourselves in this awful part of the world.

00:08:36.320 We should just stay out of it.

00:08:37.820 Why? And hold on.

00:08:38.760 This is being promoted by the Israelis. 0.99

00:08:40.920 Why? We don't want the Israelis to pull us into this. 1.00

00:08:43.020 What on earth is going on?

00:08:44.600 Now, hold on.

00:08:45.860 Before you inveigh against this plan,

00:08:49.320 just wait until you find how much it's going to cost.

00:08:51.820 Because according to the reports,

00:08:54.260 we would pay Gazans $5,000 each.

00:08:58.600 Two million people.

00:08:59.660 More than two million people.

00:09:00.560 That's $10 billion right up front.

00:09:02.700 Then we would pay for four years of rent wherever they go.

00:09:08.220 Then, on top of that, we would pay for food for one year.

00:09:15.000 The Gazans would voluntarily leave. 0.61

00:09:16.860 If they didn't want to leave, they could stay.

00:09:19.100 They would just be taken into restricted, secured zones.

00:09:24.780 It's a euphemistic way to put it.

00:09:26.440 They'd be brought to some camp somewhere in Gaza.

00:09:28.200 And then, the Gazans who own land would be given a digital token by this trust in exchange for development rights.

00:09:37.100 So they could develop nice, big, beautiful, futuristic communities there.

00:09:40.500 And they could redeem the token some years from now, five years, ten years, who knows, for an apartment.

00:09:46.760 What's the catch?

00:09:51.980 People are going to freak out.

00:09:54.320 I think a lot of Americans, not even just pro-Trump Americans or just conservatives,

00:09:59.640 I think a lot of people are going to say,

00:10:00.560 Well, we don't want any part of this.

00:10:01.940 This is going to be expensive.

00:10:03.620 Hold on.

00:10:04.140 We don't want to attract any more ire in Gaza.

00:10:08.080 We don't.

00:10:08.680 It's not worth.

00:10:09.260 The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

00:10:12.180 I think this is a negotiation.

00:10:13.920 I do not think we can take this report at face value.

00:10:17.300 First of all, nothing is printed in the Washington Post unintentionally.

00:10:20.140 This was obviously leaked.

00:10:21.600 The fact that the little detail was included,

00:10:23.740 that this was developed by Israelis involved in the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,

00:10:27.800 makes me think that the whole purpose of this plan is to freak out the Arabs. 0.98

00:10:35.040 Because don't forget what happened back in March.

00:10:37.440 Do you remember?

00:10:38.100 Earlier this year, President Trump said,

00:10:41.000 Okay, look, you people can't figure out what to do with this ceasefire.

00:10:44.100 You're not going to have a ceasefire.

00:10:45.260 You can't figure out what to do with Gaza. 1.00

00:10:47.120 The Israelis won't stop the war. 1.00

00:10:50.220 Hamas won't give back the hostages. 1.00

00:10:53.360 The whole thing, it's just the Arabs are totally useless on this. 1.00

00:10:56.200 Okay, then we're going to take it over. 0.99

00:10:58.640 Yeah.

00:10:59.080 If you two, it's just when you talk to your little kids.

00:11:01.440 If you two can't play nicely, I'm taking that toy right now.

00:11:04.720 That's my ball.

00:11:05.780 I'm getting it.

00:11:06.440 Oh, but we want it, Mom.

00:11:07.580 Oh, yeah, well, you then, you better play nice with that.

00:11:11.700 You better work this out between yourselves.

00:11:13.540 Otherwise, I'm taking it, and I'm building a casino there.

00:11:16.000 I think that, I don't think I'm reading too much into this here.

00:11:19.460 Because on the domestic front, nobody is going to want that.

00:11:22.800 Very, very few people in America are going to want us to involve ourselves,

00:11:27.880 risk our resources to help rebuild Gaza.

00:11:32.260 Most people don't want anything to do with Gaza.

00:11:33.720 But what happened when Trump pitched this at the top of the year?

00:11:37.120 Remember?

00:11:37.680 He said, okay, we're going to take it over.

00:11:38.920 It's mine.

00:11:39.760 During this press conference, it's him, and you see Netanyahu.

00:11:42.940 Did not appear that they had talked about this before,

00:11:44.980 and Netanyahu just kind of looks over.

00:11:46.520 He said, wait a minute, what was that?

00:11:47.880 Trump says, yeah, it's ours now.

00:11:49.220 We're taking control of it.

00:11:50.280 It's going to be great.

00:11:51.020 I'm a great land developer.

00:11:52.140 It's going to be terrific.

00:11:53.220 And Netanyahu starts sort of shuffling nervously, looking out at the press.

00:11:56.720 Oh, what?

00:11:58.480 Okay, anyway, we'll keep talking about that.

00:12:00.020 And then what happened, not just on Netanyahu's side, but on the Arab side,

00:12:04.440 the Arab League immediately responded.

00:12:06.700 Said, we have our own version of Gaza Reconstruction. 0.88

00:12:10.320 And we're going to spend $53 billion on it.

00:12:12.900 And it's going to be led by Egypt. 1.00

00:12:14.800 And it's going to be governed by Palestinians, but not by Hamas.

00:12:18.180 We're going to probably disarm Hamas.

00:12:20.140 Hamas says they don't want to disarm, but we're going to have to disarm.

00:12:22.240 And we're going to have this governed by Palestinian technocrats. 0.98

00:12:26.320 And we just don't do Trump's plan.

00:12:28.680 I think Trump is negotiating.

00:12:34.020 Whether that means to push Israel to action or the Arab League to action or both of them.

00:12:40.960 I think that's what this is about.

00:12:42.540 Because Trump came in.

00:12:43.420 He said, I want to solve these wars.

00:12:44.900 And he has ended an insane number of conflicts around the world.

00:12:47.720 The Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict, the Cambodia-Thailand conflict that just opened up,

00:12:54.340 the India-Pakistan conflict, the Israel-Iran conflict for now.

00:12:57.700 And I think on this one, he's just saying, look, you've got to figure something out to do.

00:13:02.800 And most people are not going to tolerate the forcible removal of Gazans.

00:13:09.480 You don't voluntarily remove over 2 million people.

00:13:12.360 It's just not going to happen.

00:13:14.020 They're not going to tolerate that.

00:13:15.200 They don't want the U.S. to be leading the charge.

00:13:17.940 So you don't want that?

00:13:19.240 Arabs? 0.85

00:13:19.820 Then you fix it.

00:13:21.260 Because the Arabs don't want any part of the Palestine issue. 0.93

00:13:23.920 The Arabs don't want any part of it. 1.00

00:13:25.520 It's so easy to blame the Israelis.

00:13:27.180 But the Arabs don't want to deal with this.

00:13:28.920 I wouldn't want to deal with it either.

00:13:30.340 And the Israelis don't want to bring this to a culmination. 0.94

00:13:33.640 So, okay.

00:13:34.740 Trump's going to come in.

00:13:36.700 You can knock him for his unorthodox tactics.

00:13:38.840 But the guy's generally gotten results, okay?

00:13:40.640 A lot more than other people. 0.88

00:13:41.740 Now, speaking of Trump plans closer to home, I don't know how public health in America is going to continue because the homosexual Satanist fetishist who was helping to run our public health system, he's quit. 0.96

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00:15:11.200 Dimitri Daskalakis.

00:15:13.800 Do you remember Dimitri Daskalakis?

00:15:16.140 He was this guy, if you're only listening, he was relatively buff-looking, has a beard, totally bald, a little bit odd.

00:15:23.100 He came to the forefront during the end of the Biden administration because he was in charge of monkeypox at the White House.

00:15:31.120 So, he's a public health official.

00:15:33.700 I guess he was trying to stop the spread of monkeypox.

00:15:35.900 When you started to look a little more into this guy, it seemed like he was in charge of monkeypox at the White House.

00:15:42.300 Like, he was.

00:15:43.300 He was the chief promoter of monkeypox. 0.99

00:15:45.900 No, I'm only, I'm sort of joking.

00:15:48.580 Because, you saw this picture of him all buttoned up in his suit and everything at the White House.

00:15:52.940 But then this other picture came out.

00:15:55.060 This one, credit to HIVplusmag.com, I guess.

00:15:59.200 Where it's him wearing a suit, but he's unbuttoned it, and he's wearing a leather pentagram harness.

00:16:07.060 A leather pentagram harness over his pentagram chest tattoo.

00:16:11.500 This is one of the most wholesome pictures I can find of this guy.

00:16:14.340 You have to take my word for it, it gets a lot worse from here. 0.99

00:16:20.220 Weird, like leather stuff, face masks, like sick, pervy, freaky sex stuff. 0.98

00:16:27.140 This guy was a major public health official. 0.96

00:16:30.800 Now, he's quit.

00:16:34.560 The big scandal, of course, being that he was still working there.

00:16:37.220 Hold on, wait, that guy is still working there?

00:16:38.660 He quit.

00:16:39.040 There are a lot of apparatchiks in the federal government.

00:16:41.560 He quit, along with other members of the public health team, along with the director of the CDC.

00:16:47.940 And they all quit because of RFK's vaccine policies.

00:16:52.820 Specifically, this guy has the temerity to take the leather harness off.

00:16:57.320 Maybe it's on underneath the suit.

00:16:58.400 I don't know.

00:16:58.880 Pull up the tie.

00:17:00.580 Go on ABC News to explain how Trump and RFK are destroying public health in America.

00:17:05.820 I mean, from my vantage point as a doctor who's taken the Hippocratic Oath, I only see harm coming.

00:17:10.400 I may be wrong, but based on what I'm seeing, based on what I've heard with the new members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices, or ACIP,

00:17:19.380 they're really moving in an ideologic direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination.

00:17:24.700 They do want to see the undoing of mRNA vaccination.

00:17:27.820 They have a very specific target on COVID, but I do fear that they have other things that they are going to be working on.

00:17:34.660 Hepatitis B vaccine is on the agenda for the meeting in September.

00:17:38.900 However, I predict that what they're going to do is try to change the birth dose of hepatitis B vaccine so that kids don't get it when they're born.

00:17:46.420 So if you have a mother who is well-connected to care, you know her hepatitis B status, that may not matter very much.

00:17:53.100 But if you have a mother who's not gone to prenatal care, who comes in to deliver, we have one bite at that apple so that child gets that important hepatitis B vaccine.

00:18:02.280 Hold on. I'll keep making fun of his leather harnesses in a second.

00:18:07.680 That was a really rare, candid, honest point he just made, and it proves RFK right, and it proves Trump right, and it proves him and all of his fellow liberal malcontents wrong.

00:18:18.840 Did you catch what he said?

00:18:20.060 And this guy, RFK, he's going to get rid of the vaccines, and he hates mRNA vaccines, and he's even going to get rid of the hepatitis vaccines.

00:18:26.680 And look, that mostly doesn't matter, but for some kids, it will matter.

00:18:31.680 I remember, you know, I have three little boys, and our first kid, we're at the hospital, and they say, okay, you've got to give the kid a bunch of shots right now.

00:18:39.940 I said, why do I have to give the kid a bunch of shots?

00:18:41.940 I said, well, because we recommend certain vaccines.

00:18:45.280 Okay, like what?

00:18:46.100 He goes, well, we recommend giving your one-day-old child the hepatitis B vaccine.

00:18:52.920 I remember vaguely what hepatitis is.

00:18:55.420 I said, isn't that hepatitis is the thing you get from shooting up heroin in an alley or visiting a hooker, right?

00:19:04.200 I said, yeah, yeah, right, and my kid has not done that.

00:19:07.780 To the best of my knowledge, my one-day-old child has not been frequenting prostitutes or shooting up intravenous illicit drugs.

00:19:17.400 Well, yeah, that's right.

00:19:18.500 I said, so why am I injecting this powerful concoction into my sweet little newborn baby?

00:19:26.420 He said, oh, well, that's just what we recommend.

00:19:29.000 And I'm pushing on this a little bit.

00:19:31.780 And I said, okay, so the only, it seems to me, the only reason is if the mother has hepatitis, but you can check.

00:19:40.300 She doesn't, you've already checked that, or if I have contracted hepatitis in the interview.

00:19:47.640 In other words, the only way that the baby would benefit from the vaccine without having known, you know,

00:19:56.180 without having detected this hepatitis in the mother before is if the father cheated during the pregnancy with a hooker 0.97

00:20:03.540 or if I started doing heroin or something, which I didn't.

00:20:08.840 And they will admit, they'll say, look, it's not for you.

00:20:11.600 The hepatitis B vaccine is not for you, regular middle-class family. 0.50

00:20:15.540 The hepatitis B vaccine is not for you, well-behaved, wealthy, or working class, or any kind of class family.

00:20:22.780 It's because we got the kids in the system, they're in the hospital, we might not be able to see them again.

00:20:27.460 And so in case their mother is a hooker or, you know, shooting up drugs, we're just going to inject them. 0.90

00:20:33.980 And it's not necessary for most kids, but, you know, we're willing to take the risks associated with any vaccine

00:20:40.560 because we're going to reach some kids.

00:20:42.280 It's not necessary.

00:20:45.340 Oh, well, isn't that what RFK is saying?

00:20:46.920 Isn't that why you're quitting?

00:20:48.560 Isn't that why the CDC director quit?

00:20:50.380 It's because RFK is saying, look, we need to prioritize the health of Americans, not just your ideological concerns.

00:20:59.280 It's so ironic because this guy Daskalakis is accusing his opponents, he's accusing the right,

00:21:03.540 of inserting ideology into public health.

00:21:08.520 But of course, first of all, public health refers to politics, okay?

00:21:11.360 There's the health part, which is more scientific, and then there's the public part, which is political.

00:21:15.300 So obviously there's going to be an ideological component.

00:21:17.500 But moreover, he's admitting his own ideological component here, which is it's better to subject

00:21:22.240 all American babies to the risk, however small, of these vaccines because some very, very small

00:21:28.980 portion of the babies might benefit from them. 0.50

00:21:30.840 And we're just going to lie and pretend and tell everyone that everyone benefits from them,

00:21:36.160 or we're going to evade the question entirely.

00:21:39.180 They are guilty of what they accuse their opponents of doing, okay?

00:21:44.020 Furthermore, they lost their credibility during COVID.

00:21:47.960 They want to paper over COVID.

00:21:49.120 They lied during COVID.

00:21:50.860 They lied to us about vaccines.

00:21:52.340 They lied to us about the efficacy of the vaccine.

00:21:54.240 They lied to us about the safety of the vaccine.

00:21:57.140 They lied to us about everything regarding the vaccine.

00:21:59.620 They lied to us about the efficacy of social distancing.

00:22:02.000 They lied to us about the efficacy of the hankies.

00:22:04.300 They lied to us about where the virus came from.

00:22:06.640 They lied to us about who funded the virus.

00:22:08.520 They lied to us about everything.

00:22:10.440 And the reason that this guy Daskalakis is getting more attention than the other malcontents who quit

00:22:16.040 is because he dresses himself in a way that is degrading.

00:22:20.460 And he behaves in ways that are degrading and that are contrary to public health.

00:22:24.780 Doing that kind of weird stuff in the leather harnesses at the nightclubs and all that,

00:22:28.580 that's not good for public health.

00:22:30.440 He does it anyway.

00:22:31.960 He's been photographed doing these sorts of things anyway.

00:22:34.380 Because he has an ideological preference for certain deviant behaviors over the advancement of public health.

00:22:41.840 Right.

00:22:42.960 He's just the most obvious, uncredible person.

00:22:48.040 That's it. 0.99

00:22:49.640 Yes, he's just the most obvious ideologue and hypocrite when it comes to ideologue. 0.99

00:22:56.900 Yeah, he's like the face of it. 0.99

00:22:59.300 This is it.

00:22:59.780 But our public health officials go on TV and they dress really nice and they have their tie

00:23:07.960 and they speak in really clinical, scientific-sounding jargon.

00:23:11.100 But then when we see the way they actually behave and the way they actually think, 0.98

00:23:15.340 they look like complete lunatics who literally worship Satan. 0.99

00:23:19.040 Okay. 0.99

00:23:19.580 And that is just an extreme version of all these guys.

00:23:23.820 Dr. Fauci, I am the science.

00:23:26.280 I am people who are attacking me because I am the science.

00:23:29.080 And then privately, when you ask him, hey, where'd you get that six-foot social distancing rule?

00:23:34.380 He goes, my sauce?

00:23:35.760 I made it up, of course.

00:23:37.880 And you just really say, oh, these people aren't what they appear to be.

00:23:41.740 These people aren't who they present themselves to be.

00:23:44.820 So they're gone.

00:23:46.580 And the head of the CDC is stepping down.

00:23:49.260 But there's a little wrinkle with this because President Trump was going to make this woman the

00:23:52.540 permanent head of the CDC, this woman, Susan Minares.

00:23:56.140 So what changed?

00:23:56.980 Why did she quit? 1.00

00:23:57.840 What does it mean for the future of the administration?

00:23:59.760 We can draw a very important conclusion from the whole administration.

00:24:02.640 Hold on one second.

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00:25:22.080 The head of the CDC is stepping down.

00:25:25.120 She's being replaced right now by the acting CDC director, Jim O'Neill,

00:25:28.780 who I happen to know is fantastic.

00:25:30.700 Really, really excellent choice.

00:25:32.300 He's the deputy secretary at HHS, long-time excellent healthcare expert with all the right

00:25:40.720 priorities, all the right thoughts.

00:25:42.280 He's just really terrific.

00:25:43.440 So who knows?

00:25:43.820 Maybe he'll take this over permanently.

00:25:45.020 I don't know.

00:25:46.260 However, I mentioned at the top of the show, people have nothing to attack Trump on,

00:25:51.080 on healthcare, on migration, on tariffs.

00:25:52.800 Well, think about it from another perspective.

00:25:56.040 This CDC director was being pushed by Trump.

00:25:59.700 She was going to be installed permanently by Trump.

00:26:02.200 And then she said, no, no, I can't take this job because Trump's actually doing what he

00:26:05.860 said he would do.

00:26:07.180 Trump put RFK Jr. in front of healthcare.

00:26:10.560 Okay.

00:26:10.880 Trump campaigned with RFK Jr.

00:26:12.460 He said, we're going to unleash Bobby on healthcare. 0.98

00:26:15.020 Bobby Jr. has campaigned against vaccines for decades, for my entire life.

00:26:22.160 Okay.

00:26:22.760 And then the CDC director is shocked and clutches her pearls because Bobby Kennedy,

00:26:26.640 the secretary for Donald Trump is doing what he campaigned on.

00:26:31.960 It's not just on healthcare.

00:26:33.620 On healthcare, yes.

00:26:35.600 On tariffs.

00:26:36.780 Everyone was so shocked.

00:26:37.600 Trump campaigns for years on implementing tariffs.

00:26:40.520 He tried it out a little bit in the first term.

00:26:41.960 He campaigned this whole cycle.

00:26:43.220 I'm going to implement very heavy tariffs on everybody.

00:26:45.560 We're going to fix trade imbalances.

00:26:46.920 We're going to, he campaigns on the tariffs.

00:26:48.320 And then the minute he implements the tariffs, everyone's shocked.

00:26:50.700 I can't believe he actually did it.

00:26:52.680 The deportations.

00:26:53.720 He campaigned on mass deportations.

00:26:55.940 He won the popular vote on mass deportations.

00:26:58.260 Mass deportations became a mainstream political issue.

00:27:01.700 And then he's elected and 1.6 million illegals are out of the country,

00:27:06.440 self-deported or arrested by Tom Holman, going city to city.

00:27:09.300 And everyone clutches his pearls.

00:27:11.440 Trump's deporting people?

00:27:14.520 Do you have cotton in your ears?

00:27:16.040 Were you not paying attention during the 10 years he's been campaigning on this?

00:27:21.260 Same thing on healthcare.

00:27:24.360 This woman, she has no one to blame but herself and the rest of the CDC people,

00:27:29.720 the HHS people, who were quitting, up to and including Mr. Satan Harness guy.

00:27:36.120 They have no one to blame but their own negligence.

00:27:38.740 He campaigned on this.

00:27:40.080 They were serious.

00:27:42.380 The Trump campaign, all of the appointees, they were serious.

00:27:46.300 Okay?

00:27:46.440 And they have every right to be.

00:27:50.320 Many Americans were really, really turned off, really ticked when the entire public health apparatus

00:27:57.580 lied to them specifically about vaccines during COVID.

00:28:01.700 There was a cost to the CDC.

00:28:03.700 There was a cost to HHS when that happened.

00:28:06.420 There was a cost to the NIH.

00:28:08.820 So when that happened, they lost their credibility.

00:28:11.280 And then people voted based on that.

00:28:15.460 And if the CDC and the HHS want to have credibility,

00:28:19.180 then they need to put credible people forward who say credible things.

00:28:23.060 And not, not like real weirdos who lie all the time.

00:28:30.920 And who admit they lie.

00:28:31.660 You got to give Daskalakis some credit.

00:28:33.240 At least he's saying, yeah, look, it doesn't actually affect public health

00:28:35.680 if we stopped giving little babies the hepatitis B vaccines.

00:28:38.020 It's totally fine for basically all of them.

00:28:41.200 But we have to lie and keep telling people that the vaccines are necessary 0.99

00:28:43.980 because some mothers are hookers and heroin addicts. 1.00

00:28:47.300 Got it. 1.00

00:28:48.680 Okay.

00:28:49.200 Speaking of Trump figures, this is a little clip.

00:28:51.600 I want to come back to it.

00:28:52.660 It actually comes from when I was at the cabinet meeting.

00:28:55.260 But it's a clip no one really focused on.

00:28:57.820 And it tells you a little bit about the future, especially if Trump dies.

00:29:02.300 God forbid.

00:29:02.840 God forbid.

00:29:04.060 Everyone's going to be vying for power.

00:29:05.400 And right now, one of the situations that's been set up is that J.D. Vance is the heir apparent.

00:29:11.140 He's the successor.

00:29:12.160 But maybe Marco Rubio could run, too.

00:29:14.640 And maybe Bobby Kennedy will run.

00:29:15.900 And who knows?

00:29:16.360 Pete Hegseth could run.

00:29:17.580 And there are plenty of people who can run, even just from the administration.

00:29:20.840 Tulsi Gabbard could run.

00:29:22.380 But Marco has been working, I think, four or five jobs for the Trump administration right now.

00:29:27.960 He's run for president before against Trump back in 2016.

00:29:30.640 He obviously wants it.

00:29:31.500 So, are we going to get down to a Vance-Rubio fight in 2028?

00:29:38.240 Just listen.

00:29:39.200 I don't know.

00:29:39.780 I caught it in the room.

00:29:41.000 My eyebrows went right up.

00:29:42.860 Listen to what Trump says as everyone is complimenting Rubio on the job that he's doing.

00:29:47.460 Marco has been, really, I think you're born for this job.

00:29:51.420 I don't think you should ever run for another office.

00:29:54.740 I don't think you should, really.

00:29:56.740 You're so good at this.

00:29:58.120 He is so good.

00:29:59.020 And everybody likes him.

00:30:01.840 Oh, man.

00:30:06.260 That's that compliment sandwich.

00:30:08.480 And I'm sure Trump is totally sincere about this.

00:30:11.500 He said, Marco is doing a great job.

00:30:13.020 Everyone loves what he's been doing.

00:30:15.660 He's a breath of fresh air after the Trump administration.

00:30:17.600 It's impressive that he's doing four of the toughest jobs in the world.

00:30:20.440 And Trump says, man, Marco.

00:30:22.100 Everyone's complimenting him.

00:30:23.160 He says, Marco, you're so good at this.

00:30:24.680 You're so good at this.

00:30:27.780 You should never run for another office.

00:30:30.260 You should just keep doing this because you're so good at it.

00:30:34.080 Look, being secretary of state is very, very cool.

00:30:36.780 It's one of the most important offices in the entire world.

00:30:39.740 You're talking to a guy who's been running for president since 2016.

00:30:43.700 There were rumors he was going to try to run in 2012.

00:30:45.560 This is a guy who wants the top job.

00:30:49.680 And it's Trump signaling.

00:30:53.320 Maybe don't.

00:30:54.100 You're doing great.

00:30:54.820 It's nothing against you.

00:30:55.980 But there are other plans.

00:30:59.000 And J.D. Vance is sitting directly across the table.

00:31:02.380 Now, this then speaks even more to what we heard in that interview with Marco Rubio about a month ago.

00:31:08.060 When Rubio was asked if he was going to run again, he said, look, if I stay secretary of state,

00:31:11.520 if this is the peak of my career, that's great.

00:31:13.180 I think J.D. would be a great nominee.

00:31:15.980 There's another mark in the J.D. column.

00:31:18.920 Now, it seems like the party is kind of coalescing.

00:31:21.080 It's still early, but this is an unusual circumstance.

00:31:24.860 You have a non-consecutive second term.

00:31:27.080 People are beginning to look ahead at the future.

00:31:30.920 Where is this thing going?

00:31:35.420 I think this is really what this is about.

00:31:39.240 And this is what the Trump is dead stuff is about, too.

00:31:41.280 You didn't get a ton of Trump is dead stuff in the first term.

00:31:45.840 Even if he looked the same, he's got as much energy now as he did then.

00:31:50.480 The guy is a machine.

00:31:51.760 He's just built differently.

00:31:53.180 And so there's no evidence that Trump is dying at all.

00:31:55.140 He has some, like, vein problem in his leg.

00:31:57.000 It's nothing.

00:31:58.900 So why is everyone talking about Trump is dead?

00:32:00.680 Because he's term limited.

00:32:04.440 Unless we change the Constitution, which Ronald Reagan wanted to do to take away term limits,

00:32:09.260 because there is a term limit.

00:32:10.120 It exists at the ballot box.

00:32:11.440 We're not going to get a third Trump term or a fourth Trump term.

00:32:14.660 And I think people are beginning to realize, one, there's going to be a new person to carry on this mantle in 2028.

00:32:20.940 We need to start getting serious about who it is.

00:32:22.660 And, two, Trump has dominated American politics now for a decade.

00:32:29.000 By the end of it, he'll have dominated American politics for a dozen years or more.

00:32:35.180 That's the beauty of the non-consecutive second term is there was this four-year period in the middle

00:32:39.620 when Trump was still dominating politics.

00:32:41.800 It was still kind of all about Trump.

00:32:43.480 They were still trying to throw Trump in jail.

00:32:45.480 They were still raiding Trump's house. 0.86

00:32:47.100 They were still trying to murder Trump.

00:32:49.640 It wasn't about Biden.

00:32:51.240 Biden was a second thought.

00:32:55.120 So, Trump has dominated this.

00:32:56.460 It actually gives you a little insight into what it must have been like to grow up under FDR.

00:33:00.680 I remember I was speaking to my older relatives.

00:33:02.980 They've said, oh, even ones who were Republican, they had this admiration for FDR because FDR was a king.

00:33:08.060 He was the American king.

00:33:09.140 He gets elected to a fourth term.

00:33:11.240 Totally ignored the precedent set by Washington, honored by Washington's successors.

00:33:15.140 And he just says, I'm going to become a king.

00:33:16.780 You had the rise of strongman leaders in Italy.

00:33:20.700 Italy, in Germany, in Spain, and in America in the person of FDR.

00:33:25.080 You had different ideologies, fascism, Nazism, political Catholicism in Spain, and in America you had liberalism.

00:33:31.740 But they were all these strongman leaders, and they dominated.

00:33:34.580 And even their enemies, even the people who hated them, couldn't help but revere them as these larger-than-life figures.

00:33:39.480 That's kind of Trump because of the weird circumstance of the non-consecutive second term.

00:33:45.060 And this Trump is dead, Trump is dead stuff is a reckoning with the fact that there will come a time, I've been explaining it to my four-year-old kid who's just discovered death.

00:33:54.060 He says, are we going to die? 0.98

00:33:55.820 I said, we're all going to die someday, buddy.

00:33:57.700 Yeah, we are.

00:33:58.800 What comes next?

00:33:59.820 On the political front, on the electoral front, Trump signaling in the cabinet meeting, J.D. comes next.

00:34:07.140 It's not going to be Rubio.

00:34:09.260 It's probably not going to be any of the other people around that table.

00:34:12.660 For now, in August 2025, now into September 2025, the signal is it's going to be J.D.

00:34:18.960 What comes next ideologically?

00:34:20.900 What comes next for the coalition?

00:34:23.000 Can this coalition be held together?

00:34:25.240 Will this coalition fall apart?

00:34:26.580 What comes next for our national self-understanding?

00:34:31.060 We're in the bicesquicentennial.

00:34:33.480 What comes in year 251 of America?

00:34:36.200 What comes next for the world order as you're moving from a hegemonic world where America is dominating everything to potentially a multipolar world?

00:34:44.560 Where you have France instructing public health officials and hospitals to arm up as though there could be a major global conflict, World War III.

00:34:52.240 What comes next?

00:34:52.960 That's the anxiety.

00:34:54.440 That's why people are freaking out over a bruise on Trump's hand.

00:34:56.660 After four years, countless arguments destroyed, millions of libs triggered, Ben Shapiro returns to what he started at, where it all began.

00:35:06.000 He's written a new book.

00:35:07.360 The result is Lions and Scavengers, the true story of America and her critics.

00:35:11.600 Let's be clear.

00:35:12.360 This is not just another book release.

00:35:13.800 It's one of the biggest books of the fall.

00:35:15.400 The kind of book that goes straight to the top of the New York Times bestseller list, which is especially fun.

00:35:20.120 Because that means the New York Times is going to have to put Ben Shapiro's name in bold letters again.

00:35:25.000 And I don't feel threatened by it because at least half of my bestsellers haven't had any words in it.

00:35:30.940 Ben's book has a ton of words in it, okay?

00:35:32.960 And those words are available everywhere.

00:35:35.100 Amazon, Walmart, Target, Barnes & Noble.

00:35:37.580 Super easy.

00:35:38.100 Go to dailywire.com slash Ben.

00:35:39.500 If you want a signed copy from Ben himself, you go to the Daily Wire shop.

00:35:43.660 That is dailywire.com slash Ben.

00:35:46.420 My favorite comment yesterday is from MarkDebbie1993, who says,

00:35:52.580 Will you remember where you were during the battle for Cracker Barrel?

00:35:55.660 I will.

00:35:56.400 In fact, do you know where I was?

00:35:57.520 On Sunday after church.

00:35:59.300 My eldest son, his favorite restaurant is Cracker Barrel.

00:36:01.840 We said, we got to go.

00:36:02.800 I got to investigate this for myself.

00:36:04.100 I'm a journalist.

00:36:05.440 There's a big story.

00:36:06.340 I got to, I'm getting out the shoe leather.

00:36:08.220 And something I've noticed, I travel to Cracker Barrels often when I'm traveling, when I'm on the road.

00:36:13.860 But I went even in my town of Nashville the other day.

00:36:18.740 And it's very sweet because no matter where I am, no matter where, I, I always meet people who are on the team.

00:36:26.480 I always meet like-minded people.

00:36:28.600 I, I get, I'm happy to say, I get a lot of attaboys when I walk into a Cracker Barrel, anywhere in the country.

00:36:33.580 Doesn't matter the state.

00:36:35.420 Doesn't matter staff, customers, men, women, white, black, everything in the middle. 0.98

00:36:41.780 It, I, if I ever am not well received at Cracker Barrel, my show is over.

00:36:48.560 Okay, this is the audience.

00:36:50.220 This is the audience.

00:36:51.400 Which is why it was so, so insane for Cracker Barrel to rebrand.

00:36:56.980 This is a beloved right-wing institution.

00:37:00.840 Okay, reactionary almost.

00:37:03.460 It was so tone deaf.

00:37:05.780 And anyway, so it was nice to chat with people and the food was great.

00:37:10.800 It was good.

00:37:11.420 We won.

00:37:12.480 We won.

00:37:12.960 They didn't, no weird millennial clinical lamestay.

00:37:16.280 It was great.

00:37:17.140 Loved it.

00:37:17.940 Okay.

00:37:20.240 Speaking of death, there's not a lot of death on the show today, isn't there?

00:37:23.440 Speaking of death, a really, really spooky story regarding artificial intelligence.

00:37:32.420 Okay, and there are a number of stories like this, really, really sad stuff, even involving

00:37:35.360 teenagers.

00:37:37.920 Young people have been killing themselves with AI. 0.93

00:37:42.660 So there's one photo in particular.

00:37:44.240 This is a 16-year-old kid being reported by NBC News.

00:37:49.300 He's a teenager.

00:37:51.120 We can pray for him.

00:37:52.420 He killed himself because of AI.

00:37:54.620 His father said he would be here, but for ChatGPT.

00:37:58.400 I 100% believe that.

00:38:00.120 According to the 40-page lawsuit, ChatGPT actively helped this young man explore suicide methods.

00:38:07.280 Despite acknowledging his suicide attempt and his statement that he would do it one of these

00:38:11.880 days, ChatGPT neither terminated the session nor initiated any emergency protocol, and the

00:38:17.760 parents seek, quote, both damages for their son's death and injunctive relief to prevent

00:38:23.660 anything like this from ever happening again.

00:38:26.120 So he went in, this kid went into ChatGPT, how can I kill myself?

00:38:28.640 And they said, here are the ways.

00:38:30.000 It's not even the first time this has happened.

00:38:31.660 According to NBC, this legal action comes one year after a similar complaint in which a

00:38:37.020 Florida mom sued Character.ai.

00:38:40.460 It's a different AI platform.

00:38:41.880 Claiming that one of its AI companions initiated sexual interactions with her teenage son and

00:38:48.800 persuaded him to kill himself.

00:38:51.620 And others and others and others.

00:38:53.560 Here's what OpenAI had to say in their defense.

00:38:55.720 They say, ChatGPT includes safeguards such as directing people to crisis helplines and referring

00:38:59.520 them to real world resources.

00:39:00.960 While these safeguards work best in common short exchanges, we've learned over time that

00:39:05.140 they can sometimes become less reliable in long interactions where parts of the model's

00:39:08.880 safety training may degrade.

00:39:10.120 Yeah, sorry, we tried to prevent this, but sometimes it doesn't work.

00:39:14.000 Just a random piece of equipment is one thing.

00:39:16.440 Sometimes it doesn't work when it is a computer designed to simulate a human being persuading

00:39:23.320 vulnerable kids to kill themselves.

00:39:26.460 Very different scenario.

00:39:28.500 And it reminds us of the ethics of AI and the need for ethics in all of these technological

00:39:36.000 endeavors, which is very scary because we live at a time when we don't take ethics seriously.

00:39:40.540 Think about the people who are building this technology.

00:39:44.600 Are these the most morally grounded people in the world?

00:39:47.220 I don't mean to just like cast stones and stuff.

00:39:50.840 I know we were going after the Satan worshiping public health official earlier, but it's to

00:39:55.460 that point too.

00:39:56.420 It's to all of this.

00:39:57.880 The people who have political, at the very least public roles in all of this technology and

00:40:06.580 all of this science don't appear to have very well formed morality.

00:40:11.420 Whether we're talking about the CDC or whether we're talking about Silicon Valley, they have

00:40:17.640 very weird morality.

00:40:18.960 They do really weird stuff.

00:40:20.700 They're very strange people and they have strange views about life and death and the

00:40:25.040 soul and the human person and how we relate to the world.

00:40:28.000 And they have a lot of power in their hands right now.

00:40:30.260 At the public health level, they have the power to shut down society and to force you to

00:40:34.500 let your loved ones die alone and to cancel Christmas.

00:40:37.460 Okay, that's a lot of power.

00:40:39.060 And in Silicon Valley, they have the power to convince you that a machine is a human being.

00:40:47.740 And they convince you to worship this machine like a god.

00:40:50.240 How often do you hear, oh, I'm going to ask Chad GPT.

00:40:53.380 I'm going to ask Grok.

00:40:54.440 You know, in some debate on social media now, it's just all, hey, Grok, is this true?

00:40:58.220 Hey, Grok, tell me about this.

00:40:59.240 Hey, Grok. 1.00

00:40:59.360 As though we're worshiping this dumb idol. 0.97

00:41:01.200 And if we make gods out of these things, these aren't necessarily the best gods. 1.00

00:41:10.960 And sometimes they might tell you to kill yourself.

00:41:12.740 And they might give you very morally dubious advice.

00:41:17.160 This is, I'm not really apocalyptic.

00:41:20.440 I know in my line of work, people are always apocalyptic and they're always catastrophizing.

00:41:24.980 And I'm not.

00:41:26.020 But this is really dangerous.

00:41:28.640 If I were inclined to believe I'm living in the end times, it would be because of stuff like this.

00:41:33.660 Because you have a moment where human technology and art and power are vastly accelerating.

00:41:41.040 And human morality is vastly degrading.

00:41:43.660 That's a recipe for disaster.

00:41:45.120 That's the story of the Tower of Babel. 0.79

00:41:46.660 Okay?

00:41:48.000 That's the story.

00:41:48.480 Wow, we're going to make ourselves into gods.

00:41:50.380 We're going to reach heaven.

00:41:52.320 We can do it.

00:41:53.240 We can build a tower to heaven.

00:41:54.580 That's pretty impressive, isn't it?

00:41:55.500 And then as morality is degrading, you need an intervention from the real God to prevent bigger problems.

00:42:03.260 Okay.

00:42:03.600 Speaking of morality, Christianity, did you know, this is from a few days ago, did you know that the foundation of the Christian church,

00:42:13.380 some would say Christ himself is the cornerstone.

00:42:15.560 Some would observe that Christ says to Peter, you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

00:42:23.360 A delegate to the Democrat National Committee summer meeting says that actually the pillar, the foundation of Christianity is DEI.

00:42:33.300 Republican friends and fellow citizens, I say, who profess to be active Christians,

00:42:42.640 I remind them that DEI is the very foundation of the Christian church.

00:42:57.240 Now there's the KJV version of the Bible, there's the RSVCE version of the Bible, there's the ESV version of the Bible,

00:43:03.920 and then there's the DNC version of the Bible, and in the DNC translation, not done by St. Jerome, I think.

00:43:11.780 In the DNC translation, the foundation of Christianity is DEI.

00:43:15.360 There is a kind of truth to this.

00:43:16.640 People were making fun of them and making fun of the Democrats were saying this,

00:43:19.240 but the kernel of insight in this is not that DEI has obviously nothing to do with Christianity in itself.

00:43:28.240 But DEI is one of the foundations of modern liberalism, and modern liberalism is an aping of Christianity. 0.82

00:43:36.680 It's a perversion of Christianity. 0.99

00:43:38.040 It takes Christian morality, and it twists it, and it chooses things, and it pulls them out of place.

00:43:44.940 And it sounds like Christianity, it uses some of the same moral rhetoric as Christianity,

00:43:49.680 it has its own sacraments like Christianity, it has its own liturgical days like Christianity,

00:43:53.940 it's feasts, it's months of pride, and all the same.

00:43:57.260 The only difference is in what it worships, because Christianity worships God, and liberalism worships the self.

00:44:02.600 And so that's how, other than that one minor difference, that's what you see.

00:44:07.880 Yeah.

00:44:08.340 It's no surprise that some Democrat delegate would say that DEI is the foundation of Christianity.

00:44:17.200 Because they have substituted Christianity for their own religion, and DEI is the foundation of that. 0.94

00:44:22.320 Okay.

00:44:23.420 Speaking of Democrats, a great story, have to get to.

00:44:27.180 Ilhan Omar.

00:44:29.240 Ilhan Omar is rich.

00:44:32.120 Ilhan Omar used to not have any money.

00:44:34.960 She was broke.

00:44:35.780 In fact, all the way, this was back in February, someone accused her of secretly being a millionaire,

00:44:40.180 and she mocked them. 0.98

00:44:41.260 And she said in an interview with Business Insider, she goes, it's ridiculous. 0.60

00:44:45.340 She says it's categorically false.

00:44:47.060 She responds.

00:44:48.000 She says, dummy, first of all, I haven't been in Congress for eight years,

00:44:55.180 and my net worth isn't $83 million. 1.00

00:44:57.080 I know your brain is rotten. 0.95

00:44:58.380 My salary is $174,000 before taxes. 0.98

00:45:00.760 I'm still paying off student debt.

00:45:03.620 Maybe try checking my public financial statements.

00:45:05.940 You'll see I barely have thousands, let alone millions.

00:45:08.920 She barely has thousands. 1.00

00:45:10.500 Now, it turns out, according to Ilhan Omar's own financial statements, she's worth between $6 and $30 million.

00:45:19.400 That was fast.

00:45:20.720 She went from having a ton of debt and maybe thousands of dollars in the bank account to between $6 and $30 million five months later, six months later.

00:45:29.680 How did that happen?

00:45:31.420 Oh, it gets even better.

00:45:33.380 Was not her congressional salary.

00:45:34.920 According to the Washington Free Beacon, Ilhan Omar reported that she and her current husband, former political consultant Tim Minette, have just made millions.

00:45:45.060 This is derived from Minette's ownership stake in two companies that, a little over a year ago, were worth no more than $51,000.

00:45:53.560 Now, they're worth many millions of dollars.

00:45:55.560 The exact value at the end of last year is unclear because they just give ranges, the lawmakers.

00:46:01.140 But their net worth has skyrocketed by at least 3,500% in just one year.

00:46:07.360 Those are Pelosi returns.

00:46:08.480 That's good stuff.

00:46:10.080 One company that the husband owns is a winery or something.

00:46:14.100 The other one is called Rose Lake Capital.

00:46:17.480 Rose Lake Capital is this venture capital fund founded three years ago.

00:46:24.380 Again, it had like basically no money until about a year ago.

00:46:27.720 And now it appears to be worth many millions of dollars because the fund is not necessarily known for its quantitative expertise.

00:46:36.280 It boasts about its, quote, extensive global network and its expertise at structuring legislation.

00:46:44.460 Oh, it's one of those funds.

00:46:47.420 It's not because of the math whiz, Minette.

00:46:49.940 It's because Minette's wife, current wife, is a prominent legislator. 0.93

00:46:55.100 God, and it's funny because money, when you're investing your money, either you want to go with the really smart investor guys, the real quants, or you want to go with the real connected people.

00:47:07.220 And Ilhan Omar is getting real connected.

00:47:10.040 You might have heard this name, Tim Minette, before the husband because back when Ilhan and Minette were married to different people,

00:47:16.480 they reportedly had an affair, and they had an affair while this guy's company was working for Ilhan Omar's campaign, and Ilhan was shoveling $2.2 million to his company.

00:47:28.860 But now they're married, so I guess they all have the same assets, which are worth between $6 and $30 million.

00:47:33.540 This is corruption par excellence.

00:47:37.400 I'm not saying I like it, but I actually feel relatively good about this, because the knock on Ilhan Omar for years is that she's a radical.

00:47:45.720 She jokes about Al-Qaeda.

00:47:47.220 You remember there's that video from laughing, giggling at the name of Al-Qaeda.

00:47:53.760 She has this not only Muslim ideology, but socialist ideology, and that was all.

00:47:59.340 She was a total radical. 0.96

00:48:00.220 Now we're beginning to see, no, she's just another corrupt Washington politician, and I can deal with that. 0.92

00:48:08.580 Our system is built to withstand corrupt politicians.

00:48:13.640 Much of Congress is built to just kind of ensnare corrupt people and reign in their ambitions.

00:48:20.920 A true believer, an actual ideologue, an actual radical, that might be a little bit dangerous.

00:48:25.020 We have not generally had socialists flourish or jihadis flourish in America, but regular swamp creatures, that's fine by me.

00:48:36.600 Otto von Bismarck says that politics is the art of the possible, the art of the second best.

00:48:40.840 I'm not saying it's good to promote corruption.

00:48:43.280 I'll deal with that all day over a jihadi or a socialist. 0.97

00:48:47.920 Okay, last point before we go.

00:48:51.360 There's a story that two women, Chloe Grace Moretz and Kate Harrison, have gotten married.

00:48:58.720 I've never heard of either of these people, but apparently they're famous.

00:49:02.740 And Chloe Grace Moretz and Kate Harrison have gotten married.

00:49:06.240 They posted a picture of the two of them together.

00:49:08.760 I think this is really great news.

00:49:11.020 My only question is, where are their husbands?

00:49:14.620 Because you see, this is the strangest thing.

00:49:16.660 I know people like my stepbrother and I got married in the same year.

00:49:19.240 But you'll post a picture together.

00:49:21.360 Usually, if you say, we got married, you'd post a picture of the two of you with your husbands.

00:49:27.560 So anyway, I don't know.

00:49:29.460 I'm glad, look, it's good to be good friends.

00:49:31.200 And I'm glad you're celebrating.

00:49:32.220 You can go on anniversary trips.

00:49:33.480 I just don't.

00:49:35.340 Where are their...

00:49:35.980 That's really all I have to say about that story.

00:49:40.780 It's kind of like the Trump is dead story at the top of the show.

00:49:42.780 Is Trump dead?

00:49:44.480 No.

00:49:45.540 Are these ladies married to each other? 1.00

00:49:47.460 No, because that's not possible.

00:49:48.640 Okay.

00:49:49.240 I'm on the road right now, so we can't do a member room segmentum, I'm sorry.

00:49:52.440 Sorry to say.

00:49:53.460 I'm in Maine because I'm going on Tucker.

00:49:55.640 And Tucker lives in the middle of the woods.

00:49:57.080 And I got to go drive into the middle of the woods to go do Tucker's show.

00:49:59.620 So anyway, it should be fun.

00:50:00.900 That interview will be coming out soon.

00:50:01.860 I'm Michael Knowles.

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 02, 2025

Ep. 1805 - BREAKING： President Trump Is Not Dead

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