Ep. 1807 - Missing Minute Of Epstein Cell Footage REVEALED
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Summary
In the wake of the Epstein scandal, the government releases a full minute of footage from the night that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered in his jail cell. But what happened to that missing minute? And why is it so important that it be released?
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Hey, remember when the government said all the cameras malfunctioned
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outside of Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell so that we could never know,
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could never see what supposedly went on the night that he killed himself?
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Then, then the government released 11 hours of the supposedly original footage,
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But then a cursor was discovered on the screen,
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A fact also proven by the disappearance of a full minute of footage just before midnight,
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which the government then told us did not exist
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because the cameras always skip a minute before midnight for some reason.
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Well, if you remember all that, you are ready for the latest update to the story,
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which is that the cameras didn't actually lose a minute at midnight.
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The minute of footage exists, and it's been released,
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and the media are reporting that it doesn't show anything except it does.
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We'll get into it. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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I know it's hard to track every aspect of the Epstein story,
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but there was this 11 hours of footage that was released
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11 hours released, and I said, see, here it is.
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Except right before midnight, you're looking at the footage of the cells,
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So we now have footage of what occurred during that missing minute.
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Wait, I don't know if I, if you're only listening to this, I don't.
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I don't think that was actually Hillary walking into,
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but we do, do we have, do we have the more credible missing minute?
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I'm seeing something moving a little bit in the background.
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In the background, you're looking downstairs to a lower floor.
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59 seconds, 59 minutes and 18 seconds, 19 seconds.
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So you're, you're almost halfway into this missing minute.
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The missing minute that we're told is just a quirk of the recording devices.
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There is the footage, but nothing really happens.
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Is that, I don't know, it's like a bug or something?
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And because of the present, is that another guy?
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And some people are saying, oh, well, there are people in the background, but they couldn't
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have made it to Jeffrey Epstein's cell because they didn't go up or down the stairs.
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Just from the camera angle, you can't really tell if they went up or down the stairs.
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So you're telling me, you're telling me that the government story is Epstein killed himself,
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Even though he was on suicide watch, even though he was the most, I don't know, the most interesting
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prisoner in the American justice system, the guards weren't paying attention and the cameras
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turned off and his bunkmate was moved out of the cell.
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And there's no footage, except there is footage, except for that one minute, except there is
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footage for that one minute, which was clearly edited out quite intentionally.
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And that's the only minute in which anything happens on camera.
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Even, even if the guy or guys in the background of that footage didn't do anything, didn't kill
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Epstein, didn't smuggle him out of there, didn't do whatever anyone thinks they could
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have done, this means that the government, by the way, this is not just or even primarily
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This Epstein story goes back 20 years at this point.
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We've been getting crazy, conflicting details the whole time.
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But at the very least, what that means is the government didn't give us the true story,
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whether through deception or through incompetence.
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The story's changed like a hundred times at this point.
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So every detail that drops just looks worse and worse.
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As I've said from the beginning, I never thought we were going to get the whole story on Epstein
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Either it's all just a bunch of weird coincidences and the official story that Epstein was not mobbed
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up with intelligence, that Epstein was not blackmailing people, that that, that just, that's true.
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And everything else is a coincidence and he's just a sex freak and he killed himself.
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And if that's the case, we've already heard everything we're going to hear about Epstein.
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Super spy connected to all these various intel agencies, in which case,
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you're also never going to get any more of the story.
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I don't really hate it, but I know it's disappointing to some people,
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There are clandestine activities and you're not going to get the JFK files.
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I remember the day they dropped the 80,000 pages of the JFK files.
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I said, I'm not going to read one page of this.
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You tell me if there's anything interesting here.
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In any case, the government story changes yet again.
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Every new drip of information, more questions than answers.
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So on the outside of the government, on the lawn, actually, of some government buildings,
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you have the Epstein victims, all the girls and the women who were trafficked by Epstein, worked for Epstein.
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They held a press conference yesterday saying that if the government won't release the list of names of Epstein's clients, they will.
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Transparency is justice, release the files and the secrecy and stand with us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders is above the law.
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And let me announce now, several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names.
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We know the names, many of us, many of us were abused by them.
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Now, together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names we all know we're regularly in the Epstein world, and it will be done by survivors and for survivors.
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Because history is washing, and so are the women who will come after us.
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So, you know, like this whole time I've said, we're not getting the whole Epstein story.
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So you don't need to convince me that there's more to the story.
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But now, now they're kind of losing me on the other side.
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Because this is all we ever get, even from the victims, even from the associates of Epstein is, you know, we've got the names.
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Oh, you know, I'd like to hold a press conference right now to announce that I will be giving a speech at which I promise at some point in the future to release the names.
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You're going to announce that you're going to do it.
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Could be that they don't want to be accused of defamation.
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Because again, some of these people have not been accused of crimes.
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Even the word she used there, she said, we know the names.
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We know the people who are regularly in Epstein world.
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That's different than we know the men who abused us.
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She said, we know the men who are regularly in Epstein world.
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You can't just go around insinuating that all these people are pedophiles.
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If they're not, if you don't have any evidence for that.
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Why else might they not have named the names already?
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Because there are actually two groups of people that could be plausibly called
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And they're very, very different groups of people.
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The reason any of us, normal people, care about the Epstein story is because the girls
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That's what makes the story particularly lurid and horrifying.
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That's who I'm referring to when I call them victims.
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And I am beginning to fear that that other group is in this for a different kind of motive
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The Department of Justice says there were 1,000 victims of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse.
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But as I just mentioned, there are two very different groups.
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There were the underage girls, girls who were underage.
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According to the Department of Justice, of the 1,000 victims of Epstein, 36 of them were underage.
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That's the highest number I can find from a credible source.
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But, you know, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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That means that 1,000 or more of the so-called Jeffrey Epstein victims were not underage.
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But they also weren't 17 or 16, and they certainly weren't five.
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So in that case, they were prostitutes who were hired to do a job.
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Their prostitution is still illegal, at least in some parts of this country.
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And I also think it's offensive to the underage victims of Jeffrey Epstein's grooming
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I mean, I guess we're all victims when we engage in sin in any way.
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But if you're 25 years old and you're taking money from a rich guy to have sex with him,
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You're certainly not a victim in the way that a 16-year-old girl would be.
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And in that case, for apparently the vast majority of these women, like the vast, vast majority
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of these women, they're just hookers threatening to reveal the names of their Johns, which again
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But it's a very, very different thing than what is presented as the Epstein story.
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I want justice for the kids, for the underage people.
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I want justice as a geopolitical matter to figure out which intelligence agencies, if any, were
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involved in this, which states, if any, were involved in.
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But if it's a bunch of hookers who did sex work at the age of 25 and then came to regret
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it, and now they want revenge and are claiming to be total victims, having no agency in the
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whole thing, to me, that just is a replay of the Me Too era, and I don't really want
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I don't really see what political motive or grand cause of justice is served by that.
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What the media want, the reason they're making a big show out of this, is because they want
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And I've said from the beginning, if there were anything, if there were any smoking gun,
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if Trump were seriously implicated in any way in the Epstein saga, they would have released
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They very nearly did murder the guy in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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I promise you, if they had something seriously incriminating, it would have come out years ago.
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NBC News interviewed some of the group of the alleged Epstein victims.
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And they just came right out and asked the question.
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Did any of you ever see Trump do anything inappropriate?
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I do have to ask, and I know and it's just something that I think we're compelled to at
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this moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions around a pardon.
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Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related
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So, OK, I've been trying to beat around the bush and none of you were taking the bait.
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So it's one of those women wearing a Rolex watch.
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I just noticed that just looking at the camera.
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But she says, I'm going to stop beating around the bush.
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Did any of you see Trump doing anything inappropriate?
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Not even anything illegal, anything inappropriate, untoward, an unseemly glance, anything, anything?
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Had they said, yes, we saw Trump doing something inappropriate, there would have been no Bill
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Since they didn't, OK, we're going to, let's at least get some defense for the Democrats here.
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And this is what brings me to the politics of it all, because this whole circus came about
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because of a bipartisan effort from the Republican Thomas Massey and the Democrat Ro Khanna in
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Now, I mentioned the Clinton thing, because 2005, this story comes out.
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2015, it becomes a big, big national news story.
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Why was it a big, big national news story in 2015 and 2016?
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Because at that time, Epstein was seen to be politically damaging, particularly to Bill
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Clinton, who flew on his jet many times, which at that time was being referred to as the Lolita
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Express, who met with Clinton many times, lots of photographs with Clinton.
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At that time, even though Epstein had been a member of Mar-a-Lago and had been friends
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with Donald Trump, it was seen as being a Clinton scandal, not as the Democrats and Trump's
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enemies in the Republican Party are trying to make it right now, a Republican scandal.
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Massey, however, is teaming up with Ro Khanna to make the president release the files, or
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make the DOJ release the files, or make the courts release the files, or whatever.
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And in principle, there's nothing wrong with that.
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But I got to think about that timeline a little bit.
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And I have to look, having known a lot of politicians, having spent a lot of time around
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Congress, I have to ask if there might be a more immediate political consequence, a more
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immediate political reason for this kind of stuff, beyond just the principle of justice
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for the victims of this crime that came to light 20 years ago.
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Because I don't want to sound cynical, but in my experience, members of Congress, elected
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politicians generally, are usually motivated by more immediate political concerns over abstract
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Thomas Massey is standing here in front of all sorts of signs.
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These are people who were picked to stand behind Massey at this press conference.
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You see one sign that says, neuter the grand old pedophile, GOP.
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Never mind that Bill Clinton was heavily implicated in the Epstein story.
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Never mind that Bill Gates, big Democrat donor and supporter, was implicated in the Epstein
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Never mind that all these libs, all these democs, the grand old pedophile, then unlock
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It's a picture of Trump and Epstein, not Clinton and Epstein, not the rest.
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Another one, the same sign, clearly printed by the same people.
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This is a scandal that much more heavily implicates Democrats than Republicans.
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And yet, all the signs that Thomas Massey, the supposed Republican, standing in front of,
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The signs are all either neutral or anti-Republican.
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And this is what the Republican congressman is choosing to stand in front of?
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The most obnoxious, left-wing, attention-grabbing member of Congress, Jasmine Crockett, is now
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Thomas Massey, who is supposed to be the most right-wing member of Congress, he's really very
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libertarian, which is, and sometimes we conflate libertarianism with conservatism.
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That's a tale that's been going on for about 70 years now, but he is, he's got really strong,
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at least libertarian bona fides, maybe not traditional conservatives, though he's got
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I mean, he's supposed to be, by multiple surveys, the most right-wing member of Congress.
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So then why is the left-wing, obnoxious darling du jour, Jasmine Crockett, going on MSNBC of
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all places to talk about how much he loves Thomas Massey?
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I will have to tell you that I respect Thomas Massey.
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Clearly, we don't agree on a lot, but where we can find agreement, we do.
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And the reason that I respect him is because he always shows you who he is.
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He is what I would consider to be a traditional conservative.
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He doesn't believe in whatever Trump tells him to believe.
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He believes in things like physical conservatism.
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I fear, look, I don't have anything personally against Massey.
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I don't like some of his recent activities, but I have respect for the guy.
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First of all, he's not a traditional conservative.
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I think he's currently on a David French, Justin Amash arc.
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For those of you who haven't followed conservative politics all that closely,
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these are the guys who, they started out being regular card-carrying members of the American
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Trump, usually based on libertarian or libertarian-ish principles.
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And they start to make alliances with left-wing publications in the cases of the journalists
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or Democrat politicians in the case of people like Massey with Ro Khanna and apparently Jasmine
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And then they start to become the Democrats' favorite Republican.
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You know, David French and I might not agree on a lot, but I really, he's a true conservative.
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And the principles that the Democrats always love are that they're the kind of Republicans
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who, when push comes to shove, will help the Democrats.
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The principle is rolling over, not supporting your own team and going over and supporting
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And practically speaking, that's what Massey is doing.
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That's what David French was doing starting 10 years ago.
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Now he, it's a farce to call him a Republican or conservative in any way.
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Same thing with Justin Amash, was a libertarian in the House, really didn't like Trump, became
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I hope it doesn't because, you know, Massey could be a strong player.
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He could be a real, a real tough guy, a real asset to our side.
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But when you're saying one thing, you know, when you speak in these high-minded abstract
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principles, but the practical effects of your political action always redound to the benefit
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of your supposed opponents, I have to question whether or not you're the most principled member
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When, I judge the pudding by the tasting of the pudding, okay?
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And right now, Jasmine Crockett and Ro Khanna and all the Democrats, they really like the
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Thomas Massey doesn't say anything, really, at all about it.
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Then, I misspoke last night on Twitter because advanced Twitter search malfunctioned on me.
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Advanced Twitter search said that Massey had literally never even once mentioned Epstein
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There were a handful, less than a handful of stray comments about Epstein in very recent
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As far as I can tell, though, it's, you know, 2005, it breaks.
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In March of this year, Trump threatens to primary Thomas Massey over a spending bill,
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And then four months later in July, Massey discovers Epstein.
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And whatever stray comments he had made offhandedly in the past, he decides to start just pummeling
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the Epstein story, making it his personal crusade.
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Seems to me this might be a little bit more about a political grudge than any principled stance
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So even you want to be generous, hit the big news 10 years ago, and you basically said
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nothing about it until Trump threatened to primary you.
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So I hope we get back to, I hope we get all get back on the team.
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You know, I've covered the Epstein story a ton, much more than Thomas Massey has.
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Let's not become Jasmine Crockett's favorite Republican.
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Now, speaking of matters of the heart, alliances, Cory Booker is getting married.
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You know, Cory Booker, Democrat, Senator Spartacus, he's run for president.
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He's the greatest hero who's ever walked the earth, at least in his own mind.
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And he's now just getting married for the first time.
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And there are, people have always, they've always wondered a little bit.
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He dated, when he ran for president last time, he was dating Rosario Dawson, who I think is a lesbian or some, half a lesbian.
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She, and no one, he only started dating her when he started running for president.
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And previously, he had not really had any public girlfriends or none of note.
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And anyway, people have always wondered why Cory Booker didn't get married, why he appeared to be a confirmed bachelor.
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And now, he's getting married in his mid to late 50s to a woman who I think is in her mid 40s to late 40s.
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And people are, well, they're coming to one conclusion, at least.
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Cory Booker is obviously running for president in 2028.
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No question, take it to the bank, he's running for president.
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This is the clearest sign that there could be that he's running for president.
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He released a series of photographs that looked like they were generated on AI of him wearing a lei, or she's wearing a lei, and they're at the beach or at the park.
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But anyway, they're really going a long way to demonstrate how happy they are to be getting engaged.
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His mouth is really, really wide open in all the pictures.
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I don't know the motives of why he's getting married.
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It is a little strange to wait that long to get married for the first time, but we live in a strange culture.
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And I'm not going to speculate publicly on why he waited to get married.
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And whatever the reason, it's good to get married.
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When people speculate and say, well, maybe he's not the marrying type or whatever, I think, okay.
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Look, if I had abnormal desires and orientations and identities, as so many seem to these days, I guess what I would do being Catholic is I would be celibate, I guess.
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People have all sorts of weird reasons for doing what they do.
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And better late than never, if Cory Booker wants to get married, even if it is just cynical to run for president, I don't know.
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And I'm not a big lib who says that every action you take has to be based on the purity of your emotional state.
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Anyway, for whatever reason Cory Booker's doing it for now, good on him.
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We don't need to, people always, especially the left or even the right, they always love to speculate about, you know, the interior state and the desires.
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I don't care how odd your engagement photos look.
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Okay, now turning to more important international affairs.
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President Trump might revoke Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship.
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President Trump tweets out or posts on Truth Social.
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He says, as previously mentioned, we are giving serious thought to taking away Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship.
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She is not a great American and, in my opinion, is incapable of being so.
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And then, this was just his personal Truth Social account.
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Then, the White House, the official White House Twitter account, posts that comment along with Rosie O'Donnell.
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And then, her face looking really wide, kind of like the JD meme face, you know, just a big, flat, wide.
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I suspect they will not, in fact, revoke Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship.
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I even kind of get a kick out of Rosie O'Donnell.
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I think, but this, we want to talk about feuds that go back 20 years, big fights.
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The Trump-Rosie fight has been one of the funniest WWE-style reality TV sagas, dramas, soap operas of the past quarter century.
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This is really funny that the White House is trolling this random left-wing celebrity who has been giving and taking, and actually started this fight 20 years ago.
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And then there are going to be all these, like, boring squishes, these tedious people who say, well, actually, you know, look, I'm a principled Republican, and this is not, this is an abusive problem.
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You know, guys, someday we're going to be dead, okay?
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I hope we'll be in front of the Bantific Vision.
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But you won't get to have, like, this kind of frivolous little earthly.
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All is vanity in this self-serious political world.
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Now, speaking of media, Barry Weiss is about to take over CBS News.
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As you know, this year we're celebrating a decade of the Daily Wire, not by looking back, but by launching what's next.
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First up, Monday, for the first time in years, we're bringing in brand new Daily Wire talent with the premiere of the Isabel Brown Show.
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Then, next Wednesday night, the main event, Friendly Fire, all of us getting together to do what friends do.
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Argue, debate, punch each other in the face, probably smoke a few Mayflower cigars.
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Do not miss the premiere because Friendly Fire is where we're dropping the good stuff.
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New series, new projects, huge announcements, surprises we've been holding back until now.
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This is the start of our next decade, and you don't want to miss a single moment.
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My favorite comment yesterday from Para014, the 11 exclamation marks was a total boss move.
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Oh, yeah, yesterday, you know, Trump, when he blew up that Venezuelan drug boat, and then he had 11 exclamation points after, you know, thank you for your attention to this matter or something like that.
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The exclamation points are like fighter pilot kill marks.
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Now that you say it, it must have been intentional.
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Because even for Trump, he'll use one or two or three exclamation points frequently.
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And even with Trump, a lot of the messaging that comes out is meticulous.
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It is still the White House, and things are done very intentionally.
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11 exclamation points, one for each kill among the narco-terrorists.
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Hope they pay attention to that matter if they don't want to get exploded from a drone.
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Barry Weiss was an editor at the New York Times.
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She then launched the Free Press, and she has become a darling of the right.
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She ain't a bowtie wearing trad, that's for sure.
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Certain writers at that platform, I just absolutely adore.
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Actually, some of my favorite writers today work for the Free Press.
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She's not a conservative, but she's done a really good job.
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Well, Paramount is reportedly about to buy her company for $200 million.
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They're going to buy her blog and podcasting company for $200 million.
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And Paramount, which owns CBS, is going to give her a senior editorial role at CBS News.
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This woman might effectively be running CBS News.
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Not because what you're going to hear is, oh, this is cool, because Barry Weiss is a conservative.
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It's the theme of this show, is being realistic.
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Let's go from Epstein all the way down to this one.
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Barry Weiss is not conservative, but she does represent a shift rightward.
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We can call it a barometer, I guess we can call her, because she is acceptable among the elite in media, in politics, even intellectually.
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She started a university, that University of Austin, for free speech.
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So, she's a good barometer in that five years ago, ten years ago, there were the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.
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And now, the range of acceptable discourse goes from the Bolsheviks to the conservatives.
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And so, as that's broadened out, that means the center has shifted, center has shifted rightward, such that a classical liberal, you know, a libertarian, a non-woke liberal is really what Barry Weiss is.
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A non-woke liberal is the new establishment center.
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Paramount is not going to buy the Daily Wire, okay?
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And certain voices are more centrist at DW than others.
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You know, some of us want to return to the year 1220, but Paramount's not going to buy the Daily Wire.
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I think the Daily Wire represents the actual center-right of the American people.
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But the elite establishment political spectrum is much further to the left than where the people are.
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That's obvious enough from the election because Trump won the popular vote.
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So, Barry Weiss is a barometer of where the elite are, where the establishment is.
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She's the new establishment center, which is great.
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I want to move the establishment center further to the right.
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Now, speaking of elite, centrist, establishment, signs of the times, Malcolm Gladwell.
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He is distressingly, annoyingly centrist in his politics.
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He is one of these beloved pop writers of the upper middle class, bourgeois.
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Malcolm Gladwell, just like Barry Weiss, another barometer of where the elite acceptable opinion is moving.
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He just came out and opposed dudes in women's sports.
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He opposed the transgender movement, at least in sports.
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If we did a replay of that exact panel at the Sloan Conference this coming March, it runs in exactly the opposite direction.
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And it would be, I suspect, near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have no place in the female category.
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I just think it was a strange, I mean, I felt, I mean, I was, the reason I'm ashamed of my performance at that panel, because I share your position 100 percent.
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The idea of saying anything on this issue, I was, you know, I believe in retrospect in a dishonest way.
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Okay, hey, at least he gets credit for taking the mea culpa.
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I came out in support of trans sports, of men in the women's sports category.
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And I was cowed by them, by the bullies in the elite institutions into endorsing this.
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And it was wrong, and it was stupid, and I shouldn't have done it.
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Again, I suspect I am much to the right of Malcolm Gladwell.
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I don't really consider him a, he's kind of conservative.
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She's not, I like her, you know, she's, it's great.
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But I really like what they are representing now.
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The fact, some of us during that trans madness were not cowed by those four.
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Some of us actually publicly called for transgenderism to be eradicated from public life entirely.
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And we were attacked by the elite institutions, slandered by them, defamed by them.
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And it showed that there was a huge chasm between where the center of elite discourse was
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and where the center of actual public discourse was.
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And now the elite have moved closer to where the people are.
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I don't think Barry Weiss and Malcolm Gladwell represent your median American voter.
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No one, no one supports the trans issue anymore.
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At least when it comes to sports, Democrats got wrecked on that.
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You know, it's sorry to say, and Malcolm Gladwell is kind of open about this, it seems.
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But if the cultural winds moved yet again and transgenderism were hot again, probably all
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But that is now the center of our political order is non-woke liberalism.
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Liberalism, I think, leads inexorably to wokeism and to other perversions.
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And it's also how I judge Trump in how he's doing in his administration.
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Because the country hasn't moved all the way back over.
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Even the elite, certainly not the elite discourse, hasn't moved all the way back.
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But if our center is non-woke liberalism, and Trump is actively moving things to the right
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with the mass deportations and self-deportations by blowing up Venezuelan drug runners,
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by resetting American foreign policy, if he's doing that, good on him, man.
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Now, one other sign of the times, I'll just mention, we don't really have too much time
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to get into it, but it's a sign of perhaps trouble ahead.
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To put that into perspective, gold, how long ago, not that long ago, gold was under $1,000.
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And I remember gold hit $1,500, everyone started freaking out.
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Then gold hit $2,000, everyone starts selling their gold.
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And you know me, I'm a little bit of a gold bug.
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And I said, but whatever, I'm just holding my gold.
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Now it's hit an all-time high of $3,500, which is very good news for conservative podcast audiences.
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I suspect conservative podcast audiences are celebrating.
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We look like rich Uncle Pennybags from the Monopoly game right now.
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But that also could be a sign of major economic turmoil to come.
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