Ep. 1810 - Did Israel Blow Up Greta’s Boat？
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A drone is reported to have attacked Greta Thunberg s boat off the coast of Tunisia, but no one was hurt. Did the Israelis really try to kill Greta? And if so, why should we be allowed to laugh at it?
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A drone reportedly blew up Greta Thunberg's boat to Gaza off the coast of Tunisia yesterday.
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Given that, in recent years, Greta has stopped caring about the sun monster that was supposed
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to kill us all, given that she has now turned her attention to the more fashionable cause
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celeb of the Israel-Palestine conflict, most people pointed fingers at Israel.
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Now, happily, Greta and her fellow professional agitators are all okay.
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But the incident raises some disturbing questions.
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Did the Israelis really try to blow up Greta's boat?
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Given that everyone's okay, are we allowed to laugh at it?
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And the most important question of all, to whoever damaged Greta's boat, how dare you?
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You know, I'm getting a little bit of whiplash, guys, because I was making jokes about the
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Greta thing yesterday, and I was called, in the morning, I was being called a Nazi and
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an anti-Semite because I sat down and did a podcast with Tucker.
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And then later on in the day, I was being called a Shabbos Goy Mossad agent because I was laughing
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And I think that, I think actually when you're called a Nazi IDF agent, when you're called
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That would be The Daily Wire's very own Isabel Brown.
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Isabel, welcome to the network, and thank you for coming on the show.
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Everyone should go check it out, The Isabel Brown Show.
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There's a lot in the news about Gen Z and what Gen Z believes.
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We're going to be talking about that a little bit later in the show.
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But just off the top of my head, I really like the Zoomers.
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The Boomers were kind of hippie and just ideologically selfish.
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Personally, they can be very nice and wonderful and selfless, but ideologically kind of selfish,
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you know, on the sexual front in the 60s, on the financial front in the 80s.
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Gen X is just too cool for school, above it all, grunge, nihilistic, whatever, you know, cool.
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Unfortunately, I'm a millennial, but they're gay.
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And I, so the left is really left and the right is really right.
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It's like half trans and half Nazi is my impression.
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Maybe trans and trad would be a more accurate representation.
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I'm saying, look, I see the transes and I see the Nazis.
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And then I think the mean, this is why I like the Zoomers, is that the mean,
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what that averages out to is just like a nice trad, which I mean, that's the average Zoomer.
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Even in the last couple of days, we've seen lots of new polling that we're unpacking on
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the Isabel Brown Show this week about the priorities for young men versus young women,
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And you are watching this ideological divide really continue to get a bit crazier and crazier.
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Although I am an eternal optimist and I'm sort of the spokesperson for Gen Z is awesome.
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So I will tell you the trans insanity and the upside down left side of things is really loud,
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but I don't believe it's indicative of the majority of people under 35 in this country.
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And I see a whole lot more reasons for hope than anything else.
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The fact that the average mean, the median ideology of this generation being a based trad
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should give you a lot of good, warm, fuzzy feelings about the next chapter of American
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I think the trans thing is over and it's just like dead man walking as an ideology.
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But the other thing that's interesting to me about Zoomers is they are exploring ideologically.
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And so, you know, for good and for ill, there is a re-exploration of Nietzsche.
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You know, I'm not a big Nietzsche guy, but I think you see that a little bit with the
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fascination of BAP and the BAP-affiliated non-social media accounts.
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And I think you're seeing an exploration of the classical political tradition, not just
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of the Enlightenment, but going all the way back to Aristotle and all those old Greeks.
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I do think you're seeing a little bit some of the fringier, more 20th century right-wing
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I mean, where do you think it all lands during this period of exploration?
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On the right, specifically among the right ones.
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That's a great characterization of what we're going through because truly it is a time of
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exploration and it's easy to understand why when the answers to every single question
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in the history of the universe are just in your pocket.
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And our education system certainly isn't fostering a sense of intellectual curiosity and challenging
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your own opinions and taking on new perspectives.
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And so I think people are really engaging in the meta-level philosophical investigative questions
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for themselves every day, scrolling through TikTok and Instagram and in subtweet threads.
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And it's a really interesting time to see philosophy and religion and politics really come to
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the foreword of culture for young people when everybody else tells us that we're way too
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And it is in the heart of every single conversation that we're having.
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Of course, in a period of exploration like that, pretty much every idea is going to come
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Whereas what you saw with millennials was really only a resurgence of extreme left-wing ideology
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like radical authoritarian socialism and everything else wasn't allowed to be said.
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Now you have this explosion of diversity of opinions, some of which are really incredible
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good opinions rooted in the transcendentals, what is good and true and beautiful.
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That alone, by the way, that young people use that as a tagline all the time is fascinating
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to me going back to Plato and C.S. Lewis and the history of Christian philosophy in the
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And that's the really interesting crux of this chapter of history that we're living in.
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Free speech does mean ideas that you disagree with, and it does mean really bad or sometimes
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But the fact that we can duke it out in real time in a very unexpected venue and formula
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in TikTok comment sections and live stream live chats to really have this argument of where
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do we want to move forward as Western civilization is so telling to me about the curiosity and the
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hunger for righteousness, the hunger for knowledge that young people are really representing.
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And it is fun to duke out all of these ideas before we win and then exile all of our enemies
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But in the meantime, we'll have a good little battle.
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Unfortunately, I have to turn away from the great Isabel's of the world to the Greta's.
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That was what was trending last night on social media.
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Did the Israelis try to blow up the Greta boat?
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The idea of it is kind of well, we'll get to whether or not the idea of it is kind of
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I'm joking at the top of the show that I'm simultaneously somehow being called an anti-Semite
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and a slavish employee of the Mossad or something, which is, it just shows you how absurd the debate
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over the particular war that we're looking at now, the Israel-Gaza war, has gotten.
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I've been critical of the Israeli government on a number of occasions, and I just think
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what they're being accused of here is kind of silly because this was obviously yet another
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When the story was going around that Greta's boat was exploded by an Israeli drone, allegedly,
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It would have been sad if Greta had been injured.
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And all of Greta's fellow professional agitators, they're fine.
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And the boat got blown up, not in Gaza, not near the state of Israel, but in Tunisia,
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way, way, way far away from the state of Israel.
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So I tweeted out when I saw everyone was okay, I tweeted out.
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The next day, the IDF is targeting you in the Middle East, blowing up your boat.
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The organizers of Greta's flotilla, the global Sumud flotilla, say that they were flying a
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Portuguese flag and that it was in the port of Sidi Bou, Sidi Bou Said in Tunisia.
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And everyone is safe, it's no problem, but they said they got blown up with a drone.
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A spokesman for Tunisia's National Guard told the French press that no drone had been detected.
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So who are you going to believe, Greta or the Tunisians?
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The Tunisians say, we're not saying that a drone didn't hit Greta's boat.
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We're just saying there were no drones even in the area.
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Then Tunisia's National Guard spokesman went further and said, actually, after looking into
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this a little bit, it doesn't look like it was the Jews dropping bombs on poor Saint Greta of
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It looks that like the fire began, quote, likely because of a cigarette or a spliff left on fire.
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So it would appear that the call was coming from inside the house and it was all much ado about
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Now, when I posted this, I just made a few jokes.
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I post, I did a Google translate of how dare you into Hebrew.
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I post and all of these people, even people putatively on the right, they responded.
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There are some, there are some people, they call themselves right wing.
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They say that they're conservatives and yet they support left wing politicians.
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They, they, they cry over Greta lying about being blown up by the Jews.
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But the question that I have to ask myself is, why can't I laugh at this?
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Because some people say, well, Greta is trying to bring aid to people suffering a humanitarian
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First of all, I've been pretty outspoken about the principles of just war and, and how that
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And I'm critical of the Israeli government and obviously critical of Hamas.
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This girl only ever exists to pull off a very particular type of publicity stunt, namely a
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That's all she's ever done since she was a teenager.
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Now she, I don't know, she's like 45 or something, but that's all she ever does.
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She just gets publicity for herself by screaming and moralizing.
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And it used to be because she said that the sun monster was going to kill us all.
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It used to be that she said that global warming was going to kill us all for, you know, imminently.
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No one cares about global warming anymore, including Greta Thunberg.
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So now she's moved on to the cause celeb, the most exciting cause du jour, which is the
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And because the left uniformly supports the Palestinian side in that conflict, Greta puts on the keffiye.
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So she gets in another boat and she gets more publicity.
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She's not actually bringing any aid to the Palestinians.
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And she's trying to bring attention to herself.
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And it's kind of funny that the boat caught fire, especially because no one was hurt.
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And I guess my, my broader point is, if you can't get a chuckle out of this story, politics
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If you can't, if you are so out of humor, if you're so unbalanced that you can't get a
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chuckle out of this, I don't, I don't think politics is for you.
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I think you should go listen to popular music or I don't go to the gym or just do something else.
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If you are so fanatical, if you are so monocausal in your thinking, that you can look at a grainy
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image of a fire off the coast of Tunisia and think that it's Bibi Netanyahu sitting in a video
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game console trying to blast Greta Thunberg with a drone, if you, if you actually believe
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that, if you think that's likely some, your, your brain is broken, something broke.
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And I, this is why, I mean, I, I'm joking about it, but I think it, it actually is important
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is the fact that all day one could be called a Nazi and then simultaneously a Mossad agent.
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And one can be accused of this extreme or that extreme.
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It, it shows you that, that people are not being sophisticated in their thinking.
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They're not being rational and they're thinking about geopolitics.
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And I've, I've said from the beginning on the Israel-Palestine conflict, I have the least
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I don't think that there is going to be some permanent solution this side of the second
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And I think that what needs to be done is prioritize American interests as well as the cause of
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justice to wrap up the war and establish whatever modicum of peace we can have.
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In the meantime, while protecting the legitimate rights of people in the region, and most
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particularly protecting the rights of, of Christians and Christian pilgrims to the Holy
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I, that will satisfy precisely no one, but it happens to be correct.
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If, if you can't handle that, if you can't handle a little bit of nuance and occasionally
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even a little bit of levity in geopolitics, I think this probably isn't for you.
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And, and it makes me think of Trump because one of the other guys, one of the few other
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guys I've noticed who consistently arrives at ideologically unsatisfying yet practically
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He's not some fanatic who's monocausal about everything.
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He's just a guy who kind of makes things work and he's generally dispassionate.
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And, uh, I think that's what's called for at the moment.
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I think we are hot, way, way too ideological on the, on the left, especially, but even a little
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The winning coalition was, was brought together by bringing in people who are kind of practical
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and normal and who aren't political weirdo nerds all the time.
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And, and who can laugh at, at St. Greta's sailboat catching fire because of, according
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to the Tunisians, a stray spliff lying on the deck.
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Uh, now turning away from Greta, turning away from fake saints to, uh, actual saints and women
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worthy of veneration, Trump posted something yesterday that really, really tickled my fancy
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And it's a, it's a picture of a statue of our lady with the Christ child.
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All Christians should celebrate this, especially Catholics.
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Certain denominations, Protestantism, don't really like to venerate Mary.
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But this, this is a beautifully Christian and specifically Catholic image.
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Tocqueville was right when he said America looks like a Protestant nation, but it's actually
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over time going to trend toward, at the same time, um, atheism and Catholicism.
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He writes this in volume two of Democracy in America and people thought he was crazy at
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Even when I read those passages out three years ago and he doesn't look so crazy anymore.
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It's a reminder of what Cardinal Manning once said, which is there will come a time that
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There will come a time that will upend the confident judges, the judgments of men.
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OK, we were so certain about how politics is going to play out and then crazy stuff happens
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We're so certain about how politics is going to play out, but then terror attacks happen.
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And then the president posts, happy birthday, Mary, Queen of Peace.
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Uh, the, the nativity of Mary is, is traditionally celebrated September 8th, but there's something
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here beyond just a pious reflection that you're getting out of Trump.
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We have all these different titles for the mother of God.
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And there's actually a feast day for Our Lady Queen of Peace, and it's alternately in
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July or January, depending on where you are in the world.
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I think America celebrates it in January, but the rest of the world celebrates it in July
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In any case, that feast day is not September 8th.
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So Trump chose, yes, it's Mary's birthday, but he chose this particular title.
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Because obviously what he's after is, uh, peace.
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That's, that is what he is looking for as his grand strategic geopolitical vision.
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He's not, he's not after in the Israel-Palestine world, let's say, he's not after total Israeli
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He's not after total Palestinian victory or a Palestinian state or any, I don't think
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When it comes to Ukraine and Russia, I don't think he's after totally humiliating and destroying
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I don't think, likewise, that he's after totally preserving the territorial integrity of the
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state of Ukraine, the sovereign, beautiful, amazing, diplomatic, democratic nation as of
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He has peace is, uh, provides the conditions for individuals to flourish.
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He's also conveying a very particular political message that I didn't see anyone else notice
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He goes to the Museum of the Bible, which is a really delightful place.
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I think it was started by Baptists, and it's just wonderful.
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He announces the launch of America Praise because America was founded on faith.
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But America was founded on faith, as we know, and I've been saying it for a long time.
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And when faith gets weaker, our country seems to get weaker.
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When faith gets stronger, as it is right now, we're having a very good period of time.
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After some rough years, good things happen for our country.
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It's amazing the way it seems to work that way.
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And under the Trump administration, we're defending our rights and restoring our identity
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We are one nation under God, and we always will be.
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They're going to say, oh, yeah, typical American politicians speak, you know, some nice words
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about God and Christianity, and what I've heard this a million times.
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This is preparing for the 250th anniversary, the celebration of what America has been,
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setting the stage for what America will become.
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This is specifically an event where the president is calling on the country to pray, to celebrate
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the history of the country and the future of the country.
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He's saying our country is founded on God, which is to say he is establishing the legitimacy
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There are other ways to establish the legitimacy of a political regime.
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That would be a radical, democratic kind of establishment.
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Some people think America was established as this purely majoritarian nation based on the
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They said that we hold truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed by
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Divine right monarchs in the Ancien Regime in Europe established the legitimacy of their
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regimes on God, saying that God has anointed them to be rulers.
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There's drawing on St. Paul, drawing on the Bible, drawing on Christian tradition.
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What Trump is doing here is closer to what our founding fathers wanted.
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It's actually identical with what our founding fathers wanted.
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It's not what the radical Democrats want, lowercase d Democrats, the ones who say it's just the
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legitimacy is based on whatever the people want.
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What the founding fathers wanted is actually closer to what the divine right monarchs of Europe
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wanted, which is to say that the legitimacy of the country comes from God, and there's
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a strong democratic element, and there's happens to be an aristocratic element, a monarchical
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That is not merely a personal statement of devotion or faith.
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That is a political statement about what the country is about and why the country has authority.
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He then goes further, and he raised some eyebrows with a beautifully articulate statement on
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something that no one ever talks about, and that is anti-Christian bias.
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And I created the first ever Department of Justice task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias.
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And for those people that are a little bit naive or not well-read, there is a tremendous anti-Christian
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You hear about anti-Semitic, but you don't hear about anti-Christian.
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Now, you have a strong anti-Christian bias, but we're ending that rapidly.
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We're in a much different world today than we were one year ago.
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As that statement conveys, there is serious anti-Christian bias.
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When Joe Biden was vice president under Barack Obama, the administration sued nuns, sued religious
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sisters because they wouldn't kill babies, okay?
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When Joe Biden was president, he arrested pro-lifers, overwhelmingly Catholic.
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I think there was like one atheist too, but it was basically Christians.
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The decades-long campaign to get Christianity out of the public square around Christmas time.
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Unfortunately, that succeeded in the middle of the 20th century.
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And he says, look, you hear about anti-Semitism.
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You don't hear a lot about anti-Christian bias.
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You know, there's a town named after the guy in Israel.
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I'm sure that Trump thinks, as I think, as Pope Pius XI thought, as Pope Pius XII thought,
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Not, you know, that's one of these terms that's bandied about that's lost a lot of meaning.
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But there is such a thing as an actual hatred of Jews as Jews.
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It's condemned by multiple pontiffs, by saints.
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And it cuts far closer to the heart of American identity.
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So it's not that he's saying, forget about anti-Semitism.
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He's saying, no, no, yeah, anti-Semitism is bad.
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We should, yeah, you don't, what is a true, coherent meaning, limited meaning of the term
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But as we take that on, if we're going to take that on, surely we must also take on anti-Christian
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bias, which is far more pervasive, concerns far more Americans, cuts far closer to the heart
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That is an urgent, urgent national problem that has to be addressed.
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And as Trump said previously, the country does not make sense without it.
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You can read the writings of the founding fathers and the framers who say, thank God that we descend
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from a common stock with common experience and a common religion.
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John Adams saying that the principles of Christianity are the principles on which independence was one.
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So it's not just the Adams quote that says the Constitution is built for only a moral and religious
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people, that it's unfit to the governance of any other.
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So Trump says, if you lose that, if you not only allow Christianity to fade away in America,
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but if you actually have a concerted political effort to destroy Christianity, as we have had
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for many decades, you are not only injuring the faith of people.
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You are not only committing sins and crimes against people's dignity and rights.
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You're actually destroying the American regime, and we're not going to let that happen.
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And he brings a 12-year-old kid up on stage who himself was persecuted because of his religion.
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I've been a Christian my whole life, and Jesus means everything to me.
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When I was in fifth grade, my school forced me to teach my kindergarten buddy about changing
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his gender using a book called My Shadow is Pink.
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The book said you can choose your gender based on feelings instead of how God made us.
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I knew this was not right, but I was afraid of getting in trouble.
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After my family spoke up, the school treated us badly, and kids started bullying me and
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my brother because of our faith, and the school did nothing to stop it.
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I believe kids like me should be able to live our faith at school without being forced to
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I hope no other family has to go through what mine did.
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He says, look, I'm in school, and not only do they take the Bible out of school and prayer
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out of school, but they make me submit to their false religion, their false Gnostic religion
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And it's just, it's crazy that I've been persecuted for this.
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It's crazy that they got away with that, that I was the one being punished.
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What do the devil, grace, and the law all have in common?
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This occurred to me as I'm hearing this kid speak.
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What do the devil, God's grace, and the law all have in common?
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When the devil wants to take you, when the devil wants to mess up your life, what does
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You can consent to some mortal sin, but he tempts you, and he puts up all the temptations,
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and he just creates all these incentives to get you to do what he wants.
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That's not the traditional Christian understanding.
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But it's kind of like a temptation in the other direction.
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A temptation to resist the temptations of the devil.
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The law, what the liberals, the classical liberals and the left liberals and the libertarians,
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what they'll say is, the law is just a kind of ordinance to protect certain fundamental
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rights that are very circumscribed and limited, and the government has no right to pass a lot
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of them, and the law, the law is just an incentive.
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I think we saw that in that stabbing on the train in Charlotte the other day.
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I think we see that around a lot of our cities.
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I think we see that at the border now that Trump has been elected.
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If you want to get less crime, if you want fewer stabbings, then you pass tough laws against
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You're going to—fewer people are going to stab people.
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If you pass tough prison sentences, if you pass the death penalty for neck stabbers, then
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And, likewise, if you go softer, if you decriminalize bad behavior, if the DAs don't prosecute bad
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If you have a president who says, come across the border, fentanyl dealers and face-tattooed
00:37:04.340
human smugglers, come on, we're not going to prosecute you, you're going to get more of it.
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If President Trump comes in and he says, we're going to ship you to El Salvador and Bukele
00:37:12.200
is going to personally torture you until you die, guess what?
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You're going to have illegal immigration drop to zero.
00:37:21.880
And something that we were talking about, Isabel, at the top of the show, something that I really
00:37:25.640
like about the Zoomers is they're not content with the lame, clinical, sterile, ideological
00:37:32.740
liberalism of the last few decades that just talks about procedures all the time.
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The law will always create incentives and disincentives.
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The law will always be pursuing some perceived good and avoiding some perceived evil.
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And the squishes who say, well, who's to say what's good?
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I mean, if my conception of good is different than his conception of good, who's to?
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So either you're going to pick it or he's going to pick it.
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If we can't persuade people of this stuff, we can't have self-government.
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We have a poll out from NBC really, really revealing about the state of the culture.
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Sub Lloyd, who says,
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the scariest part of the Charlotte stabbing is that if this were a Netflix doc,
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the script would focus more on rehabilitating the poor killer than honoring Irina.
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If this were a Netflix doc, Irina, the victim, would be black, would be a black woman,
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a black trans woman, and the stabber would be a white man.
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That's what would happen if it were a Netflix doc.
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That's the kind of story that would be focused on.
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But young, young white woman stabbed by black career criminal, that, you know, obviously,
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So then everyone says, well, imagine if the roles were reversed.
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Imagine if the role, that's not, I don't, I don't have to imagine.
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So the question is, are we, what are we going to do?
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You know, are we going to, are we going to prosecute crimes?
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Are we, are we going to have the, the courage to actually enforce the law or not?
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Or are we just going to whine and say, oh, imagine if the roles were reversed.
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This is, this is important to their personal definitions of success.
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You know, their job, not having any debt, having kids, retiring,
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early, getting married, emotional stability, all these things.
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And they, they polled men who voted for Trump, women who voted for Harris,
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men who voted for Harris, women who voted for Trump.
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I'm just going to show the very first thing, the top of the list,
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Men who voted for Trump, most important, having children.
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Women who voted for Harris, most important, fulfilling job or career.
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Men who voted for Harris, most important, fulfilling job and career.
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Women who voted for Trump, this is the right-wing women.
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Three of these four groups of people said that the most important thing in life to them,
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Only one of these four groups, only the men who voted for Trump,
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said that what is most important to them is immaterial, not material,
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And so people are reading these numbers, they say,
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oh man, even the conservative women are falling for this stuff,
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or even the conservative women are just greedy materialists.
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Because it's always, all movements in politics are led by stable, normal, wise men.
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I hate to sound sexist about it or something, that's just how it goes.
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That means that a lot of the degradation that we've seen,
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lo, these past five or six decades, have been led by men.
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Some of the corruption, even some of the sexual selfishness and all that,
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Even in their dereliction of duty, men are kind of leading.
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And the fact that the smart, stable, sane, normal men are now saying,
00:43:25.400
the most important thing to me is having children,
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These are the guys who are leading the country right now, as a matter of fact.
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They're the ones saying, no, no, no, it's not just about material stuff.
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When you're looking into the future, you cannot help but also look back to the past.
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If you're caring about your kids, you're caring about your grandpa too.
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I think it is no surprise that at this moment, for the first time in my life,
00:44:07.800
when people talk about American history and what we stand for and who we are, what we believe,
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we're not just cutting ourselves off in the 1960s or the 1860s or the 1776,
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You're seeing people start to talk about the great legacies of Europe,
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the cathedrals, the great thinkers, Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas,
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all the stuff that you're reading from the highest levels of the government,
00:44:30.940
from the State Department, all the way down into popular commentary.
00:44:34.600
When I was a kid, sometimes you heard America posited as an antithesis to Europe.
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There's nothing conservative about that view at all.
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There's a lot of, I mean, you look at the women.
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The women who voted for Harris, the top things on their list.
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Fulfilling job, career, having money to do the things you want.
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Financial independence, having no debt, owning a home.
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Finally, way down toward the bottom, making family and community proud.
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And then after that, being spiritually grounded.
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But the men who voted for Trump, they're looking all right.
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Gallup is reporting that capitalism is at its lowest level of popularity in 15 years.
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Though, again, you know, I have like the least popular opinion on capitalism, which is two cheers for capitalism, which is I love capitalism.
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There are some people who make an idol out of the market.
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They seem to think that we're a political community that exists to serve a market rather than the other way around.
00:45:59.400
Markets and the economy exist to serve us and to serve our political flourishing.
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If you're a pure ideological capitalist, you literally worship mammon.
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Still, you don't want the country to become a bunch of commies.
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So you can see trend in Americans' positive ratings of capitalism and socialism.
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61% have a positive view of capitalism in 2010.
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36% of Americans have a positive view of socialism in 2010.
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Trend in opinions of capitalism by political party.
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It was a little tick down in the teens, and then it ticked up, and then it kind of just, it ends basically where it began.
00:47:05.480
In fact, the opinion of capitalism is a little bit high, slightly higher today than it was 15 years ago for Republicans.
00:47:10.800
For independents, it's tracked down a little bit.
00:47:18.100
Trend in opinions of socialism by political party.
00:47:30.380
And then it basically ends, it ends a little bit lower than where it started.
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So it's actually ticked down a little bit, but it's pretty flat.
00:47:37.620
For independents, ticked down, then up, then down a little bit.
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The opinion of, the positive opinion of socialism has ticked up a lot.
00:47:55.660
Now, this one I thought, okay, I bet the Republicans are going to have changed here.
00:47:59.220
Because we used to be the party of big business, rich Uncle Pennybags, but now we're more populist.
00:48:06.020
Now, the Republican opinion of big business is actually ticked up a little bit, slightly.
00:48:12.260
2010, then it shot up, then it went down, then it went up again, then it went down.
00:48:16.540
And now it's slightly higher, but basically flat.
00:48:25.120
The inescapable conclusion is the Democrats, the liberals, the leftists are the drivers of this change.
00:48:33.020
There's a lot of talk about the new right and shifting views of markets and capitalism and big business and all this.
00:48:51.340
I very much want to move the Republican Party more in the direction of a classical kind of conservatism,
00:49:03.680
It is not the new right's fault that the opinion of capitalism has declined.
00:49:08.860
The changes are being moved entirely by the left.
00:49:13.140
A little bit of independence, but pretty much entirely by the left.
00:49:16.500
Which means, from a really zoomed out 30,000-foot view, the left is becoming more extreme in politics.
00:49:27.120
The right is continuing to dominate among normies.
00:49:30.220
This is a very good sign for the Republican Party.
00:49:32.340
The caveat is, I don't know that anyone after Trump can hold the coalition together.
00:49:37.920
At the presidential level, I think J.D. Vance is very well positioned.
00:49:42.780
At the level of the Senate and the House and the governors, there are some great politicians there.
00:49:51.780
But I guess, right now, if you're looking at the midterms in 2028, you think, oh, this Republican Party is really starting to lose people.
00:50:02.340
The radicalism, economic radicalism, the communists up in New York, all the rest.
00:50:09.120
We obviously know the social radicalism because of the trans agenda.
00:50:15.940
They are falling prey to their own radical audience and base.
00:50:19.540
I think that fringes them out among the normies.
00:50:21.920
I think you look at this chart, just to end on a happy note, I think you look at this chart, you say,
00:50:26.820
Republicans have a lot of runway here to dominate among normal people, among the median American.
00:50:34.820
But, you know, telling Republicans not to screw up is a fool's errand.
00:50:38.440
No one knows how to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory like a Republican.
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But all of the ingredients are there for a long political run.
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