The Michael Knowles Show - September 09, 2025


Ep. 1810 - Did Israel Blow Up Greta’s Boat？


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A drone is reported to have attacked Greta Thunberg s boat off the coast of Tunisia, but no one was hurt. Did the Israelis really try to kill Greta? And if so, why should we be allowed to laugh at it?

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00:00:00.000 A drone reportedly blew up Greta Thunberg's boat to Gaza off the coast of Tunisia yesterday.
00:00:07.200 Given that, in recent years, Greta has stopped caring about the sun monster that was supposed 0.98
00:00:12.480 to kill us all, given that she has now turned her attention to the more fashionable cause 1.00
00:00:17.620 celeb of the Israel-Palestine conflict, most people pointed fingers at Israel.
00:00:24.140 Now, happily, Greta and her fellow professional agitators are all okay.
00:00:29.640 No one was hurt.
00:00:31.520 But the incident raises some disturbing questions.
00:00:35.020 Did the Israelis really try to blow up Greta's boat?
00:00:39.200 Given that everyone's okay, are we allowed to laugh at it?
00:00:43.320 And the most important question of all, to whoever damaged Greta's boat, how dare you?
00:00:51.700 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:00:52.460 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:59.640 Welcome back to the show.
00:01:13.640 How dare you?
00:01:15.260 You have stolen my boat.
00:01:17.160 You know, I'm getting a little bit of whiplash, guys, because I was making jokes about the
00:01:23.920 Greta thing yesterday, and I was called, in the morning, I was being called a Nazi and
00:01:31.180 an anti-Semite because I sat down and did a podcast with Tucker.
00:01:34.820 I went on Tucker's show.
00:01:35.560 And then later on in the day, I was being called a Shabbos Goy Mossad agent because I was laughing
00:01:43.260 about the Greta boat thing.
00:01:44.760 And I think that, I think actually when you're called a Nazi IDF agent, when you're called
00:01:52.020 those things at the same day, it means you have a truly precise and independent opinion.
00:01:58.460 And so we'll get to that.
00:01:59.460 We'll get to what that all means.
00:02:00.520 We'll also get to Dearborn Heights, Michigan, putting Arabic on their police patch. 0.99
00:02:09.600 We got, we have our first Arabic police patch in America.
00:02:12.680 Maybe, maybe.
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00:03:52.900 Before we get to any of it, before we start talking about a Swedish liberal Zoomer, I want
00:03:58.820 to talk to an American conservative Zoomer.
00:04:01.560 That would be The Daily Wire's very own Isabel Brown. 0.63
00:04:05.920 Isabel, welcome to the network, and thank you for coming on the show.
00:04:12.480 Thanks for having me back, Michael.
00:04:14.300 It's a great day to be here.
00:04:15.920 This is very exciting.
00:04:16.640 So your show is launching.
00:04:18.140 Everyone should go check it out, The Isabel Brown Show.
00:04:20.460 It's a good week.
00:04:21.240 There's a lot in the news about Gen Z and what Gen Z believes.
00:04:24.640 We're going to be talking about that a little bit later in the show.
00:04:26.840 But just off the top of my head, I really like the Zoomers. 1.00
00:04:30.180 They're cool.
00:04:31.040 I think every generation has characteristics.
00:04:35.300 The Boomers were kind of hippie and just ideologically selfish.
00:04:39.360 Personally, they can be very nice and wonderful and selfless, but ideologically kind of selfish,
00:04:43.840 you know, on the sexual front in the 60s, on the financial front in the 80s.
00:04:47.740 Gen X is just too cool for school, above it all, grunge, nihilistic, whatever, you know, cool.
00:04:54.800 Then the millennials are gay. 0.97
00:04:56.820 Unfortunately, I'm a millennial, but they're gay. 1.00
00:04:59.220 It's a gay generation. 1.00
00:05:00.800 And then for Gen Z, I think that it's split.
00:05:05.260 And I, so the left is really left and the right is really right.
00:05:08.040 So it's basically trans Nazis. 0.86
00:05:11.860 It's like half trans and half Nazi is my impression. 0.93
00:05:15.220 Am I wrong?
00:05:15.980 Am I right?
00:05:17.280 I don't know.
00:05:17.880 That seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.
00:05:19.940 Maybe trans and trad would be a more accurate representation.
00:05:23.220 No, no, this is my point, though, Isabel.
00:05:25.080 I'm saying, look, I see the transes and I see the Nazis. 0.89
00:05:29.140 And then I think the mean, this is why I like the Zoomers, is that the mean, 1.00
00:05:32.440 what that averages out to is just like a nice trad, which I mean, that's the average Zoomer. 0.99
00:05:38.080 I don't know.
00:05:38.860 You tell me.
00:05:39.360 You're the expert.
00:05:41.120 That's a fair assessment, Michael.
00:05:42.740 And I think you're right.
00:05:43.560 Even in the last couple of days, we've seen lots of new polling that we're unpacking on
00:05:47.200 the Isabel Brown Show this week about the priorities for young men versus young women,
00:05:51.220 young conservatives versus young liberals.
00:05:53.480 And you are watching this ideological divide really continue to get a bit crazier and crazier.
00:05:58.780 Although I am an eternal optimist and I'm sort of the spokesperson for Gen Z is awesome.
00:06:03.520 I'm very proud to wear that badge.
00:06:05.340 So I will tell you the trans insanity and the upside down left side of things is really loud, 1.00
00:06:11.240 but I don't believe it's indicative of the majority of people under 35 in this country.
00:06:16.000 And I see a whole lot more reasons for hope than anything else.
00:06:18.920 The fact that the average mean, the median ideology of this generation being a based trad
00:06:25.440 should give you a lot of good, warm, fuzzy feelings about the next chapter of American
00:06:29.340 history.
00:06:30.040 Well, that is my question.
00:06:31.100 So obviously, I agree.
00:06:31.920 I think the trans thing is over and it's just like dead man walking as an ideology. 0.98
00:06:36.460 But the other thing that's interesting to me about Zoomers is they are exploring ideologically.
00:06:43.040 And so, you know, for good and for ill, there is a re-exploration of Nietzsche.
00:06:48.820 You know, I'm not a big Nietzsche guy, but I think you see that a little bit with the
00:06:52.060 fascination of BAP and the BAP-affiliated non-social media accounts.
00:06:58.140 And I think you're seeing an exploration of the classical political tradition, not just
00:07:03.220 of the Enlightenment, but going all the way back to Aristotle and all those old Greeks.
00:07:06.980 I think you're seeing a surge in Catholicism.
00:07:09.120 I'm personally seeing that.
00:07:10.500 I do think you're seeing a little bit some of the fringier, more 20th century right-wing
00:07:15.600 ideologies crop back up again.
00:07:18.420 So I don't know.
00:07:19.060 I mean, where do you think it all lands during this period of exploration?
00:07:23.540 On the right, specifically among the right ones.
00:07:25.960 That's a great characterization.
00:07:27.400 No, I love that.
00:07:28.040 That's a great characterization of what we're going through because truly it is a time of
00:07:31.440 exploration and it's easy to understand why when the answers to every single question
00:07:35.200 in the history of the universe are just in your pocket.
00:07:37.260 And our education system certainly isn't fostering a sense of intellectual curiosity and challenging
00:07:43.340 your own opinions and taking on new perspectives.
00:07:46.160 And so I think people are really engaging in the meta-level philosophical investigative questions
00:07:52.040 for themselves every day, scrolling through TikTok and Instagram and in subtweet threads.
00:07:57.080 And it's a really interesting time to see philosophy and religion and politics really come to
00:08:03.680 the foreword of culture for young people when everybody else tells us that we're way too
00:08:08.020 young and we just don't care.
00:08:09.340 We do care.
00:08:10.060 And it is in the heart of every single conversation that we're having.
00:08:13.400 Of course, in a period of exploration like that, pretty much every idea is going to come
00:08:17.820 back to the surface.
00:08:18.900 Whereas what you saw with millennials was really only a resurgence of extreme left-wing ideology
00:08:24.460 like radical authoritarian socialism and everything else wasn't allowed to be said.
00:08:29.060 Now you have this explosion of diversity of opinions, some of which are really incredible
00:08:34.340 good opinions rooted in the transcendentals, what is good and true and beautiful.
00:08:38.480 That alone, by the way, that young people use that as a tagline all the time is fascinating
00:08:42.500 to me going back to Plato and C.S. Lewis and the history of Christian philosophy in the
00:08:47.660 last several thousand years.
00:08:49.040 But you also see some really bad ideas.
00:08:51.420 And that's the really interesting crux of this chapter of history that we're living in.
00:08:55.460 Free speech does mean ideas that you disagree with, and it does mean really bad or sometimes
00:08:59.860 even evil ideas come to fruition, too.
00:09:02.100 But the fact that we can duke it out in real time in a very unexpected venue and formula
00:09:07.260 in TikTok comment sections and live stream live chats to really have this argument of where
00:09:13.720 do we want to move forward as Western civilization is so telling to me about the curiosity and the
00:09:18.920 hunger for righteousness, the hunger for knowledge that young people are really representing.
00:09:23.080 That's exciting.
00:09:23.900 And it is fun to duke out all of these ideas before we win and then exile all of our enemies
00:09:29.920 to St. Helena, which will be a great time.
00:09:31.900 But in the meantime, we'll have a good little battle.
00:09:34.520 Isabel, marvelous to see you.
00:09:35.820 Everyone needs to go subscribe right now to the Isabel Brown Show. 0.98
00:09:39.780 Very, very exciting.
00:09:40.840 I will see you very soon.
00:09:43.460 Yes, indeed.
00:09:44.160 Thanks, Michael.
00:09:44.800 Unfortunately, I have to turn away from the great Isabel's of the world to the Greta's.
00:09:49.480 That's like the mirror.
00:09:50.760 It's the image of of Isabel.
00:09:55.540 Did the Jews blow up Greta?
00:09:57.800 Did that's the question?
00:09:58.760 That was what was trending last night on social media.
00:10:01.340 Did the Israelis try to blow up the Greta boat?
00:10:06.560 And the answer is.
00:10:09.700 I don't think so.
00:10:11.520 I don't.
00:10:12.000 It's kind of funny.
00:10:13.140 The idea of it is kind of well, we'll get to whether or not the idea of it is kind of
00:10:16.340 funny, but I just don't think so.
00:10:19.680 I'm joking at the top of the show that I'm simultaneously somehow being called an anti-Semite
00:10:25.640 and a slavish employee of the Mossad or something, which is, it just shows you how absurd the debate
00:10:32.920 over the particular war that we're looking at now, the Israel-Gaza war, has gotten.
00:10:37.760 But I think I've got some bona fides.
00:10:39.380 I've been critical of the Israeli government on a number of occasions, and I just think
00:10:44.340 what they're being accused of here is kind of silly because this was obviously yet another
00:10:50.640 publicity stunt for Greta.
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00:12:11.600 When the story was going around that Greta's boat was exploded by an Israeli drone, allegedly,
00:12:19.300 I looked it up and I said, okay, Greta's fine.
00:12:21.940 That's good.
00:12:22.300 It would have been sad if Greta had been injured.
00:12:25.020 And all of Greta's fellow professional agitators, they're fine.
00:12:28.760 No one was injured.
00:12:29.880 It's totally fine.
00:12:30.660 And the boat got blown up, not in Gaza, not near the state of Israel, but in Tunisia,
00:12:38.620 way, way, way far away from the state of Israel.
00:12:41.580 And it just looked a little sus.
00:12:44.700 So I tweeted out when I saw everyone was okay, I tweeted out.
00:12:47.520 I said, hey, stay in school, kids.
00:12:50.360 You know, one day you're a truant.
00:12:52.680 One day you're skipping 10th grade math class.
00:12:55.540 The next day, the IDF is targeting you in the Middle East, blowing up your boat.
00:13:01.520 Don't kids skip in school, not even once.
00:13:05.160 You got to keep track of your studies.
00:13:09.020 The organizers of Greta's flotilla, the global Sumud flotilla, say that they were flying a
00:13:15.680 Portuguese flag and that it was in the port of Sidi Bou, Sidi Bou Said in Tunisia.
00:13:23.820 And everyone is safe, it's no problem, but they said they got blown up with a drone.
00:13:29.140 A spokesman for Tunisia's National Guard told the French press that no drone had been detected.
00:13:37.340 So who are you going to believe, Greta or the Tunisians? 1.00
00:13:40.880 The Tunisians say, we're not saying that a drone didn't hit Greta's boat.
00:13:44.740 We're just saying there were no drones even in the area.
00:13:47.160 So that claim seems to be kind of silly.
00:13:49.280 Then Tunisia's National Guard spokesman went further and said, actually, after looking into
00:13:55.520 this a little bit, it doesn't look like it was the Jews dropping bombs on poor Saint Greta of
00:14:01.440 the Blessed Sailboat.
00:14:02.660 It looks that like the fire began, quote, likely because of a cigarette or a spliff left on fire.
00:14:11.540 So it would appear that the call was coming from inside the house and it was all much ado about
00:14:18.320 nothing.
00:14:19.820 Now, when I posted this, I just made a few jokes.
00:14:25.020 I post, I did a Google translate of how dare you into Hebrew.
00:14:28.800 I post and all of these people, even people putatively on the right, they responded.
00:14:34.180 They said, this isn't funny.
00:14:35.940 This isn't funny.
00:14:38.340 There are some, there are some people, they call themselves right wing.
00:14:41.080 They say that they're conservatives and yet they support left wing politicians.
00:14:46.560 They support, they vote for Kamala.
00:14:48.580 They support Gavin Newsom.
00:14:50.520 They, they, they cry over Greta lying about being blown up by the Jews. 0.85
00:14:56.840 And the whole thing, it's very, very strange.
00:14:59.480 But the question that I have to ask myself is, why can't I laugh at this?
00:15:07.460 Why can I not?
00:15:08.400 Because some people say, well, Greta is trying to bring aid to people suffering a humanitarian
00:15:14.680 crisis in Gaza.
00:15:16.080 First of all, I've been pretty outspoken about the principles of just war and, and how that 0.92
00:15:21.840 war should resolve.
00:15:22.720 And I'm critical of the Israeli government and obviously critical of Hamas.
00:15:26.080 And Greta ain't bringing no aid to Palestine. 0.54
00:15:29.980 Are you people stupid?
00:15:30.940 Are you kidding me?
00:15:31.580 What are you talking about?
00:15:32.860 This girl only ever exists to pull off a very particular type of publicity stunt, namely a 1.00
00:15:40.780 publicity stunt involving boats.
00:15:42.740 That's all she's ever done since she was a teenager.
00:15:46.560 Now she, I don't know, she's like 45 or something, but that's all she ever does.
00:15:51.020 She just gets publicity for herself by screaming and moralizing. 1.00
00:15:56.520 And it used to be because she said that the sun monster was going to kill us all.
00:16:00.620 It used to be that she said that global warming was going to kill us all for, you know, imminently.
00:16:05.680 And then that, that racket ran out.
00:16:09.400 No one cares about global warming anymore, including Greta Thunberg.
00:16:12.280 So now she's moved on to the cause celeb, the most exciting cause du jour, which is the
00:16:16.560 Israeli-Palestine conflict.
00:16:18.140 And because the left uniformly supports the Palestinian side in that conflict, Greta puts on the keffiye.
00:16:24.260 But her, her shtick is kind of one note.
00:16:26.680 So she gets in another boat and she gets more publicity.
00:16:29.120 She's not actually bringing any aid to the Palestinians.
00:16:31.960 What are you talking about?
00:16:33.920 She's showboating, literally. 1.00
00:16:36.040 And she's trying to bring attention to herself.
00:16:38.780 And it's kind of funny that the boat caught fire, especially because no one was hurt.
00:16:44.040 It's kind of funny, man.
00:16:45.040 And I guess my, my broader point is, if you can't get a chuckle out of this story, politics
00:16:54.300 is not for you.
00:16:55.500 Okay.
00:16:56.260 If you can't, if you are so out of humor, if you're so unbalanced that you can't get a
00:17:03.380 chuckle out of this, I don't, I don't think politics is for you.
00:17:07.480 I think you should go watch sitcoms.
00:17:09.920 I think you should go listen to popular music or I don't go to the gym or just do something else.
00:17:15.980 Because you're going to be driven so crazy.
00:17:18.660 If you are so fanatical, if you are so monocausal in your thinking, that you can look at a grainy
00:17:27.640 image of a fire off the coast of Tunisia and think that it's Bibi Netanyahu sitting in a video
00:17:33.720 game console trying to blast Greta Thunberg with a drone, if you, if you actually believe
00:17:39.540 that, if you think that's likely some, your, your brain is broken, something broke.
00:17:47.100 Okay.
00:17:48.300 And I, this is why, I mean, I, I'm joking about it, but I think it, it actually is important
00:17:54.100 is the fact that all day one could be called a Nazi and then simultaneously a Mossad agent.
00:18:02.020 And one can be accused of this extreme or that extreme.
00:18:04.600 It, it shows you that, that people are not being sophisticated in their thinking.
00:18:09.660 They're not being rational and they're thinking about geopolitics.
00:18:12.660 Okay.
00:18:13.500 And I've, I've said from the beginning on the Israel-Palestine conflict, I have the least
00:18:17.020 popular opinion of all.
00:18:18.580 Namely, I think it's complicated.
00:18:20.300 I don't think that there is going to be some permanent solution this side of the second
00:18:23.840 coming.
00:18:24.360 And I think that what needs to be done is prioritize American interests as well as the cause of
00:18:31.120 justice to wrap up the war and establish whatever modicum of peace we can have.
00:18:34.720 In the meantime, while protecting the legitimate rights of people in the region, and most
00:18:38.740 particularly protecting the rights of, of Christians and Christian pilgrims to the Holy
00:18:42.980 Land.
00:18:43.440 That's my opinion.
00:18:44.520 I, that will satisfy precisely no one, but it happens to be correct.
00:18:48.760 Okay.
00:18:49.660 If, if you can't handle that, if you can't handle a little bit of nuance and occasionally
00:18:55.980 even a little bit of levity in geopolitics, I think this probably isn't for you.
00:19:01.260 And, and it makes me think of Trump because one of the other guys, one of the few other
00:19:05.640 guys I've noticed who consistently arrives at ideologically unsatisfying yet practically
00:19:12.540 very effective solutions in politics is Trump.
00:19:15.700 Because he's not an ideologue.
00:19:18.380 He's not some weirdo wonk.
00:19:19.980 He's not some fanatic who's monocausal about everything.
00:19:23.260 He's just a guy who kind of makes things work and he's generally dispassionate.
00:19:28.200 And, uh, I think that's what's called for at the moment.
00:19:31.400 I think we are hot, way, way too ideological on the, on the left, especially, but even a little
00:19:38.140 bit on the right.
00:19:38.780 And we need a little practicality.
00:19:40.580 The winning coalition was, was brought together by bringing in people who are kind of practical
00:19:46.240 and normal and who aren't political weirdo nerds all the time.
00:19:49.600 And, and who can laugh at, at St. Greta's sailboat catching fire because of, according
00:19:55.200 to the Tunisians, a stray spliff lying on the deck.
00:19:58.620 Okay.
00:19:59.540 Uh, now turning away from Greta, turning away from fake saints to, uh, actual saints and women
00:20:05.660 worthy of veneration, Trump posted something yesterday that really, really tickled my fancy
00:20:12.280 and it was really magnificent.
00:20:14.920 He posts happy birthday, Mary, queen of peace.
00:20:18.820 And it's a, it's a picture of a statue of our lady with the Christ child.
00:20:24.960 It's beautiful.
00:20:25.860 It says happy birthday, Mary, queen of peace.
00:20:29.520 This is really great.
00:20:31.560 All Christians should celebrate this, especially Catholics.
00:20:34.480 Certain denominations, Protestantism, don't really like to venerate Mary.
00:20:38.780 Some do, but some don't.
00:20:40.520 But this, this is a beautifully Christian and specifically Catholic image.
00:20:45.380 It's a reminder.
00:20:47.820 Tocqueville was right when he said America looks like a Protestant nation, but it's actually 0.99
00:20:52.860 over time going to trend toward, at the same time, um, atheism and Catholicism.
00:20:58.320 He writes this in volume two of Democracy in America and people thought he was crazy at
00:21:02.240 the time and people thought he was crazy.
00:21:03.540 Even when I read those passages out three years ago and he doesn't look so crazy anymore.
00:21:08.660 It's a reminder of what Cardinal Manning once said, which is there will come a time that
00:21:13.540 will, he said it more eloquently.
00:21:15.080 I forget the exact quote.
00:21:15.880 There will come a time that will upend the confident judges, the judgments of men.
00:21:20.980 OK, we were so certain about how politics is going to play out and then crazy stuff happens
00:21:26.620 like Trump gets elected.
00:21:27.940 We're so certain about how politics is going to play out, but then terror attacks happen.
00:21:33.160 War breaks out.
00:21:34.460 Economic crises take place.
00:21:36.400 Spiritual awakenings happen.
00:21:38.080 Stuff happens.
00:21:38.920 And then the president posts, happy birthday, Mary, Queen of Peace.
00:21:43.200 Uh, the, the nativity of Mary is, is traditionally celebrated September 8th, but there's something
00:21:48.240 here beyond just a pious reflection that you're getting out of Trump.
00:21:51.980 He says Queen of Peace.
00:21:53.120 There are a lot of titles of Mary.
00:21:55.380 We have Our Lady of Graces.
00:21:56.780 We have Our Lady Queen of Palestine.
00:21:57.940 We have all these different titles for the mother of God.
00:22:02.240 Queen of Peace is a very particular title.
00:22:04.380 And there's actually a feast day for Our Lady Queen of Peace, and it's alternately in
00:22:10.680 July or January, depending on where you are in the world.
00:22:13.080 I think America celebrates it in January, but the rest of the world celebrates it in July
00:22:16.760 or vice versa.
00:22:19.200 In any case, that feast day is not September 8th.
00:22:22.460 So Trump chose, yes, it's Mary's birthday, but he chose this particular title.
00:22:27.200 Why?
00:22:27.440 Because obviously what he's after is, uh, peace.
00:22:34.860 That's, that is what he is looking for as his grand strategic geopolitical vision.
00:22:40.760 He's not, he's not after in the Israel-Palestine world, let's say, he's not after total Israeli 0.97
00:22:46.920 victory.
00:22:47.600 He doesn't care about that, I think.
00:22:49.740 He's not after total Palestinian victory or a Palestinian state or any, I don't think
00:22:53.480 he's after that either.
00:22:54.760 When it comes to Ukraine and Russia, I don't think he's after totally humiliating and destroying
00:22:59.080 Russia, as many ideologues are.
00:23:00.880 I don't think, likewise, that he's after totally preserving the territorial integrity of the
00:23:06.460 state of Ukraine, the sovereign, beautiful, amazing, diplomatic, democratic nation as of
00:23:12.500 2013.
00:23:13.280 I don't think he cares about that too.
00:23:14.480 What he wants is peace.
00:23:16.600 He has peace is, uh, provides the conditions for individuals to flourish.
00:23:22.360 Peace and order is what empires are after.
00:23:25.000 And America is the imperial hegemon.
00:23:27.220 Trump is conveying a religious message.
00:23:29.420 He's also conveying a very particular political message that I didn't see anyone else notice
00:23:34.780 yesterday, but that's clearly what it's about.
00:23:37.200 And the religious and the political are not so easy to separate as, as Trump pointed out
00:23:41.280 when he announced, announced the launch of America praise at the museum of the Bible.
00:23:45.180 We'll get to that momentarily.
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00:24:59.960 Trump yesterday keeps pushing the religion.
00:25:02.000 He goes to the Museum of the Bible, which is a really delightful place.
00:25:05.380 It's in Washington, D.C.
00:25:06.400 I think it was started by Baptists, and it's just wonderful.
00:25:10.600 I just love it.
00:25:11.400 So he goes there.
00:25:12.600 He announces the launch of America Praise because America was founded on faith.
00:25:20.520 But America was founded on faith, as we know, and I've been saying it for a long time.
00:25:25.540 And when faith gets weaker, our country seems to get weaker.
00:25:30.360 When faith gets stronger, as it is right now, we're having a very good period of time.
00:25:35.340 After some rough years, good things happen for our country.
00:25:39.800 It's amazing the way it seems to work that way.
00:25:42.480 And under the Trump administration, we're defending our rights and restoring our identity
00:25:47.640 as a nation under God.
00:25:50.380 We are one nation under God, and we always will be.
00:25:54.020 99.9% of people are going to hear that.
00:26:00.440 They're going to say, oh, yeah, typical American politicians speak, you know, some nice words
00:26:04.180 about God and Christianity, and what I've heard this a million times.
00:26:08.360 That's not what Trump is doing here.
00:26:10.960 That's not.
00:26:11.520 Pay close attention to what he's saying.
00:26:13.920 Pay close attention to the circumstances.
00:26:15.600 This isn't just some random campaign address.
00:26:17.840 This is preparing for the 250th anniversary, the celebration of what America has been,
00:26:21.820 setting the stage for what America will become.
00:26:25.000 This is the America Praise event.
00:26:27.300 This is specifically an event where the president is calling on the country to pray, to celebrate
00:26:34.500 the history of the country and the future of the country.
00:26:38.060 He's not incidentally praying.
00:26:39.440 He's not incidentally mentioning God.
00:26:40.660 The event is for that.
00:26:42.180 He's saying our country is founded on God, which is to say he is establishing the legitimacy
00:26:48.600 of the political regime on God.
00:26:52.220 There are other ways to establish the legitimacy of a political regime.
00:26:55.560 One would be on the will of the people.
00:26:58.040 That would be a radical, democratic kind of establishment.
00:27:03.480 That's not what Trump is doing here.
00:27:04.860 That's not how America was established.
00:27:06.520 Some people think that.
00:27:08.420 Some people think America was established as this purely majoritarian nation based on the
00:27:13.780 gusts of will of the people.
00:27:16.260 Well, that's not it.
00:27:16.920 That's not what our founding fathers thought.
00:27:18.520 They said that we hold truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed by
00:27:22.860 their creator with certain rights.
00:27:25.180 So they established it on God.
00:27:29.020 Divine right monarchs in the Ancien Regime in Europe established the legitimacy of their
00:27:35.900 regimes on God, saying that God has anointed them to be rulers.
00:27:42.020 There's drawing on St. Paul, drawing on the Bible, drawing on Christian tradition.
00:27:47.820 What Trump is doing here is closer to what our founding fathers wanted.
00:27:52.940 It's actually identical with what our founding fathers wanted.
00:27:55.340 It's not what the radical Democrats want, lowercase d Democrats, the ones who say it's just the
00:28:00.220 legitimacy is based on whatever the people want.
00:28:02.000 That's not it.
00:28:03.560 What the founding fathers wanted is actually closer to what the divine right monarchs of Europe
00:28:07.180 wanted, which is to say that the legitimacy of the country comes from God, and there's
00:28:13.300 a strong democratic element, and there's happens to be an aristocratic element, a monarchical
00:28:17.080 element, and there's all this other stuff.
00:28:18.620 But the country is grounded on God.
00:28:21.440 That is not merely a personal statement of devotion or faith.
00:28:23.960 That is a political statement about what the country is about and why the country has authority.
00:28:29.600 He then goes further, and he raised some eyebrows with a beautifully articulate statement on
00:28:40.000 something that no one ever talks about, and that is anti-Christian bias.
00:28:45.380 And I created the first ever Department of Justice task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias.
00:28:52.120 And for those people that are a little bit naive or not well-read, there is a tremendous anti-Christian
00:29:06.100 bias.
00:29:06.560 We don't hear about it.
00:29:07.360 We don't think about it.
00:29:08.460 You hear about anti-Semitic, but you don't hear about anti-Christian.
00:29:12.580 Now, you have a strong anti-Christian bias, but we're ending that rapidly.
00:29:16.960 I will tell you, it's a whole.
00:29:18.520 We're in a much different world today than we were one year ago.
00:29:21.560 This is like a quick, quick, quick.
00:29:27.100 Yeah, we are.
00:29:28.340 We are in a much different world today.
00:29:30.620 As that statement conveys, there is serious anti-Christian bias.
00:29:35.800 When Joe Biden was vice president under Barack Obama, the administration sued nuns, sued religious
00:29:41.620 sisters because they wouldn't kill babies, okay? 0.99
00:29:45.660 When Joe Biden was president, he arrested pro-lifers, overwhelmingly Catholic.
00:29:49.780 And a bunch of Protestants. 0.69
00:29:53.320 I think there was like one atheist too, but it was basically Christians.
00:29:57.520 Just threw him in prison.
00:29:59.160 Also for protesting infanticide.
00:30:02.500 Deep anti-Christian bias.
00:30:05.260 The decades-long campaign to get Christianity out of the public square around Christmas time. 0.89
00:30:10.840 To get the Bible out of classrooms.
00:30:14.440 Unfortunately, that succeeded in the middle of the 20th century.
00:30:16.820 To get prayer out of classrooms.
00:30:18.420 Deep anti-Christian bias.
00:30:19.860 And he says, look, you hear about anti-Semitism.
00:30:22.020 You don't hear a lot about anti-Christian bias.
00:30:23.760 So is Trump taking a jab at the Jews here?
00:30:27.920 I don't, he's not.
00:30:28.980 You know, there's a town named after the guy in Israel.
00:30:32.740 I'm sure that Trump thinks, as I think, as Pope Pius XI thought, as Pope Pius XII thought,
00:30:39.160 that anti-Semitism is real.
00:30:41.520 Not every criticism of Judaism.
00:30:43.440 Not every criticism of the state of Israel.
00:30:44.960 Not, you know, that's one of these terms that's bandied about that's lost a lot of meaning.
00:30:47.920 But there is such a thing as an actual hatred of Jews as Jews.
00:30:52.180 And that is wrong.
00:30:53.280 It's condemned by multiple pontiffs, by saints.
00:30:57.360 It's, you know, it's very, very bad.
00:30:59.940 And that needs to be extirpated from society.
00:31:02.800 Sure.
00:31:04.520 But anti-Christian bias is far more pervasive.
00:31:09.700 And it cuts far closer to the heart of American identity.
00:31:14.340 So it's not that he's saying, forget about anti-Semitism.
00:31:16.520 We should only focus.
00:31:17.420 He's saying, no, no, yeah, anti-Semitism is bad.
00:31:19.480 We should, yeah, you don't, what is a true, coherent meaning, limited meaning of the term
00:31:25.880 anti-Semitism?
00:31:26.540 Yeah, yeah, we got to take that on.
00:31:28.180 But as we take that on, if we're going to take that on, surely we must also take on anti-Christian
00:31:34.600 bias, which is far more pervasive, concerns far more Americans, cuts far closer to the heart
00:31:39.480 of what this country is.
00:31:40.520 And that's shocking.
00:31:42.280 That's shocking to people.
00:31:43.460 Well, are you talking about anti-Christianity?
00:31:45.660 Yeah.
00:31:47.420 That is an urgent, urgent national problem that has to be addressed.
00:31:51.640 It's a Christian country.
00:31:52.820 And as Trump said previously, the country does not make sense without it.
00:31:58.300 You can read the writings of John Jay.
00:32:00.440 You can read the writings of the founding fathers and the framers who say, thank God that we descend
00:32:05.720 from a common stock with common experience and a common religion.
00:32:08.840 John Adams saying that the principles of Christianity are the principles on which independence was one.
00:32:15.340 So it's not just the Adams quote that says the Constitution is built for only a moral and religious
00:32:20.200 people, that it's unfit to the governance of any other.
00:32:22.360 It's all of them through and through.
00:32:26.580 So Trump says, if you lose that, if you not only allow Christianity to fade away in America,
00:32:32.300 but if you actually have a concerted political effort to destroy Christianity, as we have had
00:32:36.940 for many decades, you are not only injuring the faith of people.
00:32:42.240 You are not only committing sins and crimes against people's dignity and rights.
00:32:46.600 You're actually destroying the American regime, and we're not going to let that happen.
00:32:50.400 It's a very different world today, Trump says.
00:32:53.240 I love that.
00:32:53.800 And he brings a 12-year-old kid up on stage who himself was persecuted because of his religion.
00:33:02.300 Hi, I'm Shane Cias.
00:33:04.080 I've been a Christian my whole life, and Jesus means everything to me.
00:33:07.440 When I was in fifth grade, my school forced me to teach my kindergarten buddy about changing
00:33:12.080 his gender using a book called My Shadow is Pink.
00:33:14.620 The book said you can choose your gender based on feelings instead of how God made us.
00:33:19.720 I knew this was not right, but I was afraid of getting in trouble.
00:33:23.600 After my family spoke up, the school treated us badly, and kids started bullying me and
00:33:28.280 my brother because of our faith, and the school did nothing to stop it.
00:33:32.340 It hurt a lot, but I kept trusting God.
00:33:35.220 I believe kids like me should be able to live our faith at school without being forced to
00:33:40.020 go against what we believe.
00:33:41.520 I hope no other family has to go through what mine did.
00:33:44.060 Thank you.
00:33:50.120 Hear, hear.
00:33:51.600 Hear, hear, man.
00:33:53.280 This is great, great stuff.
00:33:59.520 Wow, man.
00:34:00.620 Right at a central fast in this kid.
00:34:01.940 Thank you, Jay.
00:34:02.160 Great job.
00:34:04.100 That was delivered well, wasn't it?
00:34:06.620 That was delivered well.
00:34:08.020 That kid's got a good career ahead of him.
00:34:09.920 And his point is so apt.
00:34:12.640 He says, look, I'm in school, and not only do they take the Bible out of school and prayer
00:34:16.640 out of school, but they make me submit to their false religion, their false Gnostic religion 1.00
00:34:21.040 of transgenderism or whatever.
00:34:22.720 And it's just, it's crazy that I've been persecuted for this.
00:34:26.920 It's crazy that they got away with that, that I was the one being punished.
00:34:30.000 I hope no one else has to go through that.
00:34:32.800 What do the devil, grace, and the law all have in common?
00:34:40.600 This occurred to me as I'm hearing this kid speak.
00:34:43.660 What do the devil, God's grace, and the law all have in common?
00:34:49.240 They all operate on incentives.
00:34:54.200 That's it.
00:34:56.200 When the devil wants to take you, when the devil wants to mess up your life, what does
00:35:02.580 he do?
00:35:03.120 He tempts you.
00:35:04.560 He just tempts you.
00:35:05.840 You still have free will.
00:35:07.180 You can consent to some mortal sin, but he tempts you, and he puts up all the temptations,
00:35:12.900 and he just creates all these incentives to get you to do what he wants.
00:35:17.460 What is grace?
00:35:19.240 Does God's grace undermine your free will?
00:35:22.840 Some people think it does.
00:35:23.980 I don't think it does.
00:35:24.620 That's not the traditional Christian understanding.
00:35:26.420 No, no, no.
00:35:26.920 God's grace is kind of like a temptation.
00:35:30.740 It's a mercy.
00:35:32.340 It's a life raft.
00:35:34.440 But it's kind of like a temptation in the other direction.
00:35:38.800 A temptation to sanctity.
00:35:40.580 A temptation to be with God.
00:35:42.420 A temptation to do the good.
00:35:44.280 A temptation to resist the temptations of the devil.
00:35:46.480 And then, my friends, what is the law?
00:35:49.740 The law, what the liberals, the classical liberals and the left liberals and the libertarians,
00:35:56.880 what they'll say is, the law is just a kind of ordinance to protect certain fundamental
00:36:02.980 rights that are very circumscribed and limited, and the government has no right to pass a lot
00:36:08.780 of them, and the law, the law is just an incentive.
00:36:14.940 I think we saw that in that stabbing on the train in Charlotte the other day.
00:36:18.800 I think we see that around a lot of our cities.
00:36:20.640 I think we see that at the border now that Trump has been elected.
00:36:24.500 The law just creates incentives. 0.86
00:36:26.360 If you want to get less crime, if you want fewer stabbings, then you pass tough laws against
00:36:35.240 criminals, and guess what?
00:36:36.320 You're going to—fewer people are going to stab people.
00:36:39.800 If you pass tough prison sentences, if you pass the death penalty for neck stabbers, then
00:36:46.080 you know what?
00:36:46.780 You're going to get fewer stabbings.
00:36:47.920 And, likewise, if you go softer, if you decriminalize bad behavior, if the DAs don't prosecute bad
00:36:56.660 behavior, you're going to get more of it.
00:36:58.740 It just operates on incentives.
00:37:00.740 If you have a president who says, come across the border, fentanyl dealers and face-tattooed
00:37:04.340 human smugglers, come on, we're not going to prosecute you, you're going to get more of it.
00:37:07.840 If President Trump comes in and he says, we're going to ship you to El Salvador and Bukele
00:37:12.200 is going to personally torture you until you die, guess what?
00:37:15.420 You're going to get less of it.
00:37:16.180 You're going to have illegal immigration drop to zero.
00:37:20.280 It's all about incentives.
00:37:21.880 And something that we were talking about, Isabel, at the top of the show, something that I really
00:37:25.640 like about the Zoomers is they're not content with the lame, clinical, sterile, ideological 0.60
00:37:32.740 liberalism of the last few decades that just talks about procedures all the time.
00:37:39.120 They're talking about substantive goods.
00:37:40.980 What's good?
00:37:41.460 What's bad?
00:37:42.040 What's a flourishing life?
00:37:43.240 What do we want?
00:37:43.860 What's the substance?
00:37:44.480 And that's what we need to think about now.
00:37:47.360 The law will always create incentives and disincentives.
00:37:50.780 The law will always be pursuing some perceived good and avoiding some perceived evil.
00:37:56.680 You can't escape those substantive questions.
00:37:59.040 So the question is, what is good?
00:38:01.660 What is evil?
00:38:02.760 What do we want more of?
00:38:03.660 What do we want less of?
00:38:04.560 That's it.
00:38:06.260 And the squishes who say, well, who's to say what's good? 0.96
00:38:10.460 Who's to say what's evil?
00:38:11.600 Either you or your enemies.
00:38:13.020 That's who.
00:38:14.220 Well, I don't know.
00:38:14.920 I mean, if my conception of good is different than his conception of good, who's to?
00:38:18.580 Yeah, right.
00:38:19.660 So either you're going to pick it or he's going to pick it.
00:38:23.260 And people are generally reasonable.
00:38:25.240 Maybe you can persuade them using reason.
00:38:27.200 If we can't persuade people of this stuff, we can't have self-government.
00:38:31.340 It's the whole premise of self-government.
00:38:32.820 What are you going to do?
00:38:34.560 What are you going to do?
00:38:35.620 We need good incentives, folks.
00:38:37.400 Okay, so what do people care about?
00:38:38.560 We have a poll out from NBC really, really revealing about the state of the culture.
00:38:44.420 Everyone is blackpilling on it.
00:38:45.700 Everyone says, this is bad news.
00:38:47.340 I think it's actually good news.
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00:39:31.400 My favorite comment yesterday is from Sub Lloyd, who says,
00:39:36.180 the scariest part of the Charlotte stabbing is that if this were a Netflix doc,
00:39:41.160 the script would focus more on rehabilitating the poor killer than honoring Irina.
00:39:45.300 That's not true.
00:39:46.120 If this were a Netflix doc, Irina, the victim, would be black, would be a black woman, 1.00
00:39:53.020 a black trans woman, and the stabber would be a white man. 0.99
00:39:56.740 That's what would happen if it were a Netflix doc.
00:39:58.300 I mean, I'm not even really making a joke.
00:40:00.420 That's how it would work.
00:40:02.480 That's the kind of story that would be focused on.
00:40:04.440 But young, young white woman stabbed by black career criminal, that, you know, obviously, 1.00
00:40:11.560 obviously that's not focused on.
00:40:12.880 So then everyone says, well, imagine if the roles were reversed.
00:40:15.940 I can't, I don't even say that anymore.
00:40:17.960 Imagine if the role, that's not, I don't, I don't have to imagine.
00:40:21.700 We all, we all know exactly.
00:40:22.900 So the question is, are we, what are we going to do?
00:40:24.600 You know, are we going to, are we going to prosecute crimes?
00:40:27.880 Are we, are we going to have the, the courage to actually enforce the law or not?
00:40:32.500 Or are we just going to whine and say, oh, imagine if the roles were reversed.
00:40:35.060 Okay.
00:40:36.080 What do people care about?
00:40:38.380 What do people care about?
00:40:39.860 NBC News has a poll.
00:40:42.680 This is what Gen Z wants. 0.98
00:40:46.600 This is, this is important to their personal definitions of success.
00:40:50.760 And they have all these different categories.
00:40:53.780 You know, their job, not having any debt, having kids, retiring,
00:40:57.880 early, getting married, emotional stability, all these things.
00:41:02.600 And they, they polled men who voted for Trump, women who voted for Harris,
00:41:06.680 men who voted for Harris, women who voted for Trump.
00:41:09.820 I'm just going to show the very first thing, the top of the list,
00:41:14.700 what is most important to Gen Z.
00:41:19.420 Men who voted for Trump, most important, having children.
00:41:23.440 Women who voted for Harris, most important, fulfilling job or career. 0.86
00:41:27.880 Men who voted for Harris, most important, fulfilling job and career.
00:41:31.760 Same thing.
00:41:33.480 Women who voted for Trump, this is the right-wing women. 1.00
00:41:37.460 Financial independence.
00:41:42.940 Three of these four groups of people said that the most important thing in life to them,
00:41:48.660 it involves money and the self.
00:41:50.980 That's it.
00:41:53.160 Financial independence, job and career.
00:41:55.080 That's about money and it's about yourself.
00:41:58.480 Only one of these four groups, only the men who voted for Trump,
00:42:02.800 said that what is most important to them is immaterial, not material,
00:42:07.860 and about someone else, not about themselves.
00:42:10.460 It's having kids.
00:42:12.460 One of these things is not like the other.
00:42:14.420 And so people are reading these numbers, they say,
00:42:17.720 oh man, even the conservative women are falling for this stuff, 1.00
00:42:21.580 or even the conservative women are just greedy materialists. 1.00
00:42:24.880 Oh man, we're screwed.
00:42:26.820 This is over.
00:42:28.060 I have a totally different take.
00:42:30.400 Because it's always, all movements in politics are led by stable, normal, wise men.
00:42:39.900 That's a fact.
00:42:41.220 I hate to sound sexist about it or something, that's just how it goes.
00:42:44.480 That's true in every industry.
00:42:46.400 That's true in every political movement.
00:42:48.720 It's true everywhere in the world.
00:42:50.400 So it's the men who lead.
00:42:52.020 And it cuts both ways.
00:42:52.860 That means that a lot of the degradation that we've seen,
00:42:56.100 lo, these past five or six decades, have been led by men.
00:43:00.820 That's true.
00:43:02.060 Some of the corruption, even some of the sexual selfishness and all that,
00:43:07.060 that has been led by men.
00:43:08.320 Men lead.
00:43:08.900 Men tend to lead.
00:43:10.460 Even in their dereliction of duty, men are kind of leading.
00:43:14.500 So, men are going to lead you out too.
00:43:17.860 And the fact that the smart, stable, sane, normal men are now saying,
00:43:25.400 the most important thing to me is having children,
00:43:28.200 means that as we look toward the future,
00:43:31.020 these are the guys who are going to lead.
00:43:33.060 These are the guys who are leading the country right now, as a matter of fact.
00:43:35.420 They're the ones saying, no, no, no, it's not just about material stuff.
00:43:39.720 It's about immaterial stuff.
00:43:41.020 It's not just about me.
00:43:42.240 It's about other people.
00:43:43.220 It's not just about the present.
00:43:44.560 It's not just about my bank account right now.
00:43:46.040 It's about the future.
00:43:47.120 Because having children is about a legacy.
00:43:49.840 It's about looking into the future.
00:43:51.260 It's about posterity.
00:43:52.340 It's also about the past.
00:43:53.580 When you're looking into the future, you cannot help but also look back to the past.
00:43:57.320 If you're caring about your kids, you're caring about your grandpa too.
00:43:59.940 You're caring about a family line.
00:44:01.860 I think it is no surprise that at this moment, for the first time in my life,
00:44:07.800 when people talk about American history and what we stand for and who we are, what we believe,
00:44:11.600 we're not just cutting ourselves off in the 1960s or the 1860s or the 1776,
00:44:17.460 but we're going back much further.
00:44:19.900 You're seeing people start to talk about the great legacies of Europe,
00:44:24.100 the cathedrals, the great thinkers, Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas,
00:44:28.600 all the stuff that you're reading from the highest levels of the government,
00:44:30.940 from the State Department, all the way down into popular commentary.
00:44:34.600 When I was a kid, sometimes you heard America posited as an antithesis to Europe.
00:44:38.860 We're the new world.
00:44:39.800 Forget about that stupid old world.
00:44:41.120 That's not conservative.
00:44:42.060 There's nothing conservative about that view at all.
00:44:43.520 We're part of a civilization.
00:44:44.560 We're part of a legacy.
00:44:45.640 That's what the guys are starting to get.
00:44:48.140 I think this is a good sign.
00:44:51.380 There's a lot of, I mean, you look at the women. 1.00
00:44:54.900 Oh man, they're not going to make it.
00:44:56.320 The women who voted for Harris, the top things on their list. 0.88
00:44:58.800 Fulfilling job, career, having money to do the things you want.
00:45:01.620 Emotional stability, good luck.
00:45:03.520 That was in short supply among that crew.
00:45:05.600 Using talents as resources to help others.
00:45:07.860 Financial independence, having no debt, owning a home.
00:45:10.860 It's like all money.
00:45:11.980 It's all about them just having money.
00:45:14.540 Finally, way down toward the bottom, making family and community proud.
00:45:18.640 And then after that, being spiritually grounded.
00:45:20.620 Not good.
00:45:21.500 So they're not having a good time.
00:45:22.740 But the men who voted for Trump, they're looking all right.
00:45:27.340 Now, a related poll.
00:45:28.640 I really want to get to it today.
00:45:31.000 Gallup is reporting that capitalism is at its lowest level of popularity in 15 years.
00:45:37.280 And this is probably not a good sign.
00:45:41.620 Though, again, you know, I have like the least popular opinion on capitalism, which is two cheers for capitalism, which is I love capitalism.
00:45:49.160 I like efficient markets and all that.
00:45:50.900 But I don't worship the market.
00:45:52.340 There are some people who make an idol out of the market.
00:45:54.380 They seem to think that we're a political community that exists to serve a market rather than the other way around.
00:45:59.400 Markets and the economy exist to serve us and to serve our political flourishing.
00:46:03.480 It's not all about money.
00:46:04.720 If you're a pure ideological capitalist, you literally worship mammon.
00:46:09.000 Okay?
00:46:09.300 And that's not good.
00:46:11.820 Wise men have warned against that.
00:46:14.620 Still, you don't want the country to become a bunch of commies. 1.00
00:46:17.480 So there are a number of polls out here.
00:46:19.080 So you can see trend in Americans' positive ratings of capitalism and socialism.
00:46:24.520 Capitalism, this poll only goes back to 2010.
00:46:28.440 61% have a positive view of capitalism in 2010.
00:46:32.200 That drops all the way down to 54% 2025.
00:46:36.800 36% of Americans have a positive view of socialism in 2010.
00:46:43.040 Ticks up to 39% in 2025.
00:46:45.960 Okay, not a good sign.
00:46:46.660 Give me the next poll.
00:46:47.200 Trend in opinions of capitalism by political party.
00:46:51.760 This, to me, is most interesting.
00:46:53.980 The Republicans stay totally flat on average.
00:46:58.040 It was a little tick down in the teens, and then it ticked up, and then it kind of just, it ends basically where it began.
00:47:05.480 In fact, the opinion of capitalism is a little bit high, slightly higher today than it was 15 years ago for Republicans.
00:47:10.800 For independents, it's tracked down a little bit.
00:47:14.260 For Democrats, it's tracked down a lot.
00:47:15.860 Next chart.
00:47:18.100 Trend in opinions of socialism by political party.
00:47:21.940 2010.
00:47:23.040 You look at the Republicans.
00:47:24.140 It actually ticked up a little bit after 2010.
00:47:26.180 That's kind of weird.
00:47:27.160 And then it ticked way, way down.
00:47:29.040 Then it went up, down, down, down.
00:47:30.380 And then it basically ends, it ends a little bit lower than where it started.
00:47:34.580 So it's actually ticked down a little bit, but it's pretty flat.
00:47:37.620 For independents, ticked down, then up, then down a little bit.
00:47:41.540 It's ticked up barely, very slightly.
00:47:44.600 For Democrats, it skyrocketed.
00:47:46.380 The opinion of, the positive opinion of socialism has ticked up a lot.
00:47:51.480 Finally, last chart.
00:47:54.140 Trend in opinion of big business.
00:47:55.660 Now, this one I thought, okay, I bet the Republicans are going to have changed here.
00:47:59.220 Because we used to be the party of big business, rich Uncle Pennybags, but now we're more populist.
00:48:03.820 We're more for Main Street.
00:48:04.780 No, actually, no.
00:48:06.020 Now, the Republican opinion of big business is actually ticked up a little bit, slightly.
00:48:12.260 2010, then it shot up, then it went down, then it went up again, then it went down.
00:48:16.540 And now it's slightly higher, but basically flat.
00:48:19.380 For independents, it dropped a little bit.
00:48:21.020 For Democrats, it dropped a lot.
00:48:25.120 The inescapable conclusion is the Democrats, the liberals, the leftists are the drivers of this change.
00:48:32.500 That's it.
00:48:33.020 There's a lot of talk about the new right and shifting views of markets and capitalism and big business and all this.
00:48:44.300 I'm very interested in these questions.
00:48:46.580 I'm a part of these discussions.
00:48:48.220 I am a card-carrying, trad, traditionalist.
00:48:51.340 I very much want to move the Republican Party more in the direction of a classical kind of conservatism,
00:48:56.480 away from libertarianism and liberalism.
00:48:58.900 But I'm looking at these numbers here.
00:49:00.620 That's not what's going on.
00:49:03.680 It is not the new right's fault that the opinion of capitalism has declined.
00:49:08.860 The changes are being moved entirely by the left.
00:49:13.140 A little bit of independence, but pretty much entirely by the left.
00:49:16.500 Which means, from a really zoomed out 30,000-foot view, the left is becoming more extreme in politics.
00:49:24.940 The left is becoming more extreme.
00:49:27.120 The right is continuing to dominate among normies.
00:49:30.220 This is a very good sign for the Republican Party.
00:49:32.340 The caveat is, I don't know that anyone after Trump can hold the coalition together.
00:49:37.920 At the presidential level, I think J.D. Vance is very well positioned.
00:49:40.900 I'm a great admirer of the vice president.
00:49:42.780 At the level of the Senate and the House and the governors, there are some great politicians there.
00:49:47.640 But Trump dominates everything.
00:49:50.260 Can the coalition hold?
00:49:51.220 I'm not sure.
00:49:51.780 But I guess, right now, if you're looking at the midterms in 2028, you think, oh, this Republican Party is really starting to lose people.
00:50:00.820 Not really.
00:50:01.520 Not really.
00:50:02.340 The radicalism, economic radicalism, the communists up in New York, all the rest.
00:50:09.120 We obviously know the social radicalism because of the trans agenda. 0.98
00:50:11.720 That is all being pushed by the left.
00:50:14.620 Okay?
00:50:14.880 They are falling prey.
00:50:15.940 They are falling prey to their own radical audience and base.
00:50:19.540 I think that fringes them out among the normies.
00:50:21.920 I think you look at this chart, just to end on a happy note, I think you look at this chart, you say,
00:50:26.820 Republicans have a lot of runway here to dominate among normal people, among the median American.
00:50:31.980 This is really, really good.
00:50:33.840 Don't screw it up.
00:50:34.820 But, you know, telling Republicans not to screw up is a fool's errand.
00:50:38.220 Okay?
00:50:38.440 No one knows how to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory like a Republican.
00:50:41.840 But all of the ingredients are there for a long political run.
00:50:45.180 Okay?
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