The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1822 - Gunman Opens Fire On Texas ICE Facility

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00:00:56.740 is still in your name. Following a spate of left-wing political violence that has prompted

00:01:01.020 even a prominent liberal magazine to warn that left-wing terrorism is on the rise,

00:01:06.520 a Democrat voter shot up an immigration and customs enforcement facility yesterday.

00:01:11.840 Much like the assassin who murdered Charlie Kirk in Utah, the shooter used a rifle from an adjacent

00:01:17.020 rooftop, and he left a message on his bullets. In this case, a slogan opposing ICE. ICE, which Democrats

00:01:25.040 have spent the better part of a decade comparing to the Gestapo. If you followed this shooting in

00:01:30.500 the establishment media, you would conclude that the shooter's ideological inclinations are just

00:01:37.580 unknowable. And if you watched MSNBC, you would think he was on the right. I'm Michael Knowles. This

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00:03:53.260 Another day, another shooting. And I don't want to get totally out ahead of this. I certainly don't

00:04:00.420 want to pull a Jimmy Kimmel and lie about the ideological motivations of a shooter. But I also

00:04:06.600 don't want to be like the establishment media and make assumptions that are maybe unfounded. So I'm just

00:04:12.020 going to give you the facts. You draw your own conclusions for now. Someone shot up an ICE facility

00:04:17.980 yesterday. ICE, which has been one of the chief targets of the left all the way up to the most

00:04:22.360 mainstream parts of the left for the better part of a decade now. The shooting, ironically, didn't

00:04:29.740 end up killing any ICE officers. It ended up killing one detainee, so an illegal alien who was being held

00:04:35.940 by ICE, and injured two others seriously. The suspect is a guy from Fairview, Texas. He wrote on at least

00:04:46.820 one of the bullets, and he wrote anti-ICE. He didn't even engrave it, but there are eerie connections

00:04:53.160 here to the Charlie Kirk assassination because it was a shooting from an adjacent rooftop, used a rifle

00:04:58.360 with messages on the bullets, left-wing messages on the bullets. In this case, anti-ICE. What do we

00:05:05.900 know about the guy? We know that he was registered to vote in Texas, and he voted in the Democrat primary

00:05:12.080 in March of 2020. In Texas, they have open primaries, so that doesn't necessarily tell you

00:05:17.800 about his party affiliation, but pretty good evidence. He's at least a Democrat voter.

00:05:22.760 He also registered to vote in the state of Oklahoma. I guess his parents had a property in Oklahoma,

00:05:28.320 and he registered to vote as an independent there. So no record that he's a Republican,

00:05:36.580 strong evidence that he's a Democrat because he voted in a Democrat primary.

00:05:39.680 He does have a criminal record. He was charged with selling marijuana back in 2015.

00:05:44.760 Not exactly the most right-wing crime. Definitely codes a little bit more to the left. But there

00:05:50.100 are plenty of right-wingers who have puffed the devil's lettuce every now and again. So are we sure

00:05:55.040 that this signals a left-winger? I think so, because it's not just a guy who smoked a couple of jazz

00:06:02.220 cigarettes in college. This is a guy who, in 2017, reportedly drove cross-country to work a minimum

00:06:09.760 wage job farming marijuana for months. So not just willing to take a puff on the old Peruvian parsley

00:06:19.440 to hang with the guys, but otherwise conservative. This is a guy who is clearly fanatical about the

00:06:25.800 Mary Jane, and I've basically only ever seen that on the left. According to Andy Ngo, who always gets

00:06:31.540 really good information about left-wing terrorists, this guy's sister is apparently woke. Again, that's

00:06:37.680 not dispositive. Plenty of people have different political views from the rest of their family.

00:06:41.580 But I think in light of all of the other evidence, you would have to conclude that it is overwhelmingly

00:06:47.700 likely that this guy has left-wing political affiliations. So why would someone of any

00:06:55.660 political stripe shoot up an ICE facility? Where would someone have gotten the idea that we should

00:07:02.680 shoot up people whose job it is merely to enforce one of the most basic laws in our country, the laws

00:07:09.140 that say that we have the right to determine who gets in, who gets to use our services, who gets to

00:07:14.280 eventually become a citizen? Why would you shoot up ICE? Can we turn to the supercut from Town Hall?

00:07:21.960 ICE is looking more and more like an American Gestapo.

00:07:25.240 They're huddled around the elevator banks in masks without identifying information. What a terrifying,

00:07:31.960 like these are Gestapo tactics. But it has created this year as they've seen the kind of fascist ICE

00:07:37.940 Gestapo militias go round up Latino American citizens in places like LA.

00:07:42.280 ICE agents, masked ICE Gestapo agents getting more funding than any other law enforcement agency in

00:07:48.760 the history of the United States. ICE running Gestapo-like around our country.

00:07:53.240 The Gestapo had the same function. It was there to draw a distinction between us and them. It was not

00:07:59.720 federally. It was controlled by the leader. And we're seeing disturbing similarities between

00:08:06.360 this force and the Gestapo. We've got these masked thug cowards kidnapping innocent people and sending 0.98

00:08:12.760 them off to be slaves or tortured in other countries. Dressing like thugs and acting like thugs. 1.00

00:08:17.960 People still want to come here despite the crazy. They still want to come here because they know in 0.94

00:08:22.440 this land their voice is protected. Their rights are protected. And there won't be jackbooted thugs coming

00:08:30.280 in wearing masks over their face to take them off the streets. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. I'm sorry,

00:08:35.640 Simone. That's happening. Oh, it's happening. That's happening right now.

00:08:38.200 That was just MSNBC. That whole supercut from Town Hall, that was, what was that, 70, 80 seconds?

00:08:48.960 That was just MSNBC. Look around at the other left-wing news networks. Look around at the other

00:08:55.460 left-wing newspapers. Look at the left-wing politicians. Jasmine Crockett, we played yesterday,

00:09:00.840 Jasmine Crockett comparing ICE to slave patrols. Tim Walls, almost one heartbeat away,

00:09:08.200 from becoming the second woman president. Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, Pramila Jayapal,

00:09:13.560 the liberal congress lady, Rashida Tlaib, member of the squad, liberal congress lady, 0.99

00:09:18.000 all made similar comments. And what is the semantic value of calling ICE Gestapo or calling ICE slave

00:09:26.640 patrols? What is conveyed in doing that? What's the point of saying that? The point of saying that

00:09:32.880 is to justify their murder. The same way that when Joe Biden comes out and says that Donald Trump poses

00:09:39.220 an existential threat to the country, the semantic value of that statement, the point of that statement

00:09:44.940 is to justify his murder. If Trump's just a nasty guy, that doesn't justify his murder. 0.96

00:09:52.180 If he poses an existential threat to the whole country, then killing him would be self-defense. 0.99

00:09:56.540 Same here. If ICE is the Gestapo, then in the popular imagination, that justifies their

00:10:04.260 assassination. If someone told you just today, hey, you have the opportunity to kill Hitler, 0.98

00:10:11.780 would you do it? Of course you would do it. Everyone would do it. Virtually everyone would 0.99

00:10:16.500 do it. I guess some people who think really, really deeply about ethics might give a more

00:10:19.200 complicated answer. But colloquially, yes, that means, oh, that's the kind of person you would be

00:10:23.640 justified in killing. This isn't even just hypothetical or rhetorical. In California,

00:10:27.900 Gavin Newsom is trying to do just that. Gavin Newsom is trying to pass a law that would remove

00:10:32.480 ICE agents' masks, which is ironic because Gavin Newsom spent years making two-year-olds

00:10:36.900 mask up over the Wuhan virus. But now he says ICE agents can't mask up. The reason that ICE agents

00:10:43.120 have to mask up is because they're going after criminal cartels, foreign terrorist organizations,

00:10:48.460 and they're arousing the ire of radical leftists in America. And frankly, at this point,

00:10:52.620 I'm not sure which one is more violent. But in any case, you've got very dangerous people,

00:10:57.740 very violent people who are going to dox you, who are going to target you, who could kill your

00:11:01.740 families. That's why the ICE agents have to wear the masks. Gavin Newsom is trying to get them to

00:11:06.180 remove those masks. He even tauntingly asks, what are you so afraid of? And he knows what the answer

00:11:11.360 is. I'm afraid of your guys killing me or of the foreign criminals that you're protecting killing me. 0.99

00:11:16.260 That's the reason I'm wearing it. And Newsom says, yeah, that's right. Well,

00:11:19.380 they're going to kill you. So take the mask off and maybe then you'll stop enforcing the law. 0.92

00:11:23.720 Now, Newsom has no right to pass this law because of the supremacy clause, because

00:11:26.760 this is federal immigration enforcement, not state level. But it just shows you it's the entire

00:11:31.340 political order. Says repeatedly, day in, day out, ad nauseum, that federal immigration enforcement,

00:11:42.440 just law enforcement officers should be murdered. They're saying you would be justified in murdering 0.87

00:11:49.360 these people. And now, now we have to pretend to be surprised when a guy who by all available

00:11:55.000 evidence is on the left, we will reserve judgment. We want further investigation. I'm just going with

00:12:00.700 the evidence that we have now, would point to left wing sympathies, goes out and tries to murder 0.71

00:12:06.480 them incompetently because of course he only murdered the detainees. Nevertheless, add,

00:12:13.120 add another one to the list of the political terrorism. The vice president took this on head

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00:13:32.480 you could save. Policygenius.com slash Knowles. J.D. Vance was given a speech already scheduled in

00:13:40.100 Concord, North Carolina. I believe it was already scheduled. And after this shooting, he came out

00:13:46.880 and had this to say about the mainstream widespread liberal attacks on law enforcement.

00:13:51.660 And I think that is the most disgusting thing. The very people who keep us safe ought to be honored

00:13:58.420 and protected and praised by Democrats and Republicans alike. It is time to stop the rhetorical

00:14:05.900 assault on law enforcement. Because here's what happens. Because here's what happens when Democrats, 0.51

00:14:16.120 like Gavin Newsom did, say that these people are part of an authoritarian government. When the left-wing

00:14:22.660 media lies about what they're doing, when they lie about who they're arresting, when they lie about the

00:14:27.660 actual job of law enforcement, what they're doing is encouraging crazy people to go and commit

00:14:33.440 violence. You don't have to agree with my immigration policies. You don't have to agree with Donald Trump's

00:14:39.100 immigration policies. But if your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement,

00:14:45.600 you can go straight to hell and you have no place in the political conversation of the United States 0.97

00:14:51.280 of America. I love these comments for many reasons. One, because he's getting tough, because he's calling 0.99

00:14:59.700 out the problem, because he's defending law enforcement. That's that last part there that I love. He says,

00:15:05.580 if you are doing these things, if you are telling lies about law enforcement and causing violence

00:15:11.180 against them, you have no place in the political conversation in America. Spot on. The vice

00:15:19.040 president just gets it. This really pertains to the whole conversation we've been having for the last

00:15:27.000 couple of weeks about the free marketplace of ideas, about what the First Amendment is for,

00:15:33.560 what political discourse means in a self-government like ours. Does the free marketplace of ideas,

00:15:39.340 does free speech mean that just any sound, any grunt, any babble that comes out of your vocal cords

00:15:47.260 is to be permitted and encouraged in the public square? Of course not. That's not what the First

00:15:51.260 Amendment means. That's why the First Amendment, from the beginning, has always prohibited certain forms

00:15:55.720 of speech, like fraud, like direct threats, like obscenity, among other types. The reason for that is

00:16:03.060 that those types of speech actually undermine speech. If you commit fraud, and if fraud is

00:16:11.060 protected and permitted, then you would have no confidence in the free marketplace of ideas.

00:16:19.260 You would have no reason to believe that the information you're getting in the free marketplace

00:16:22.400 of ideas is reliable. It would actually collapse the free marketplace of ideas. If you permit direct

00:16:28.620 threats, that doesn't expand the free marketplace of ideas. It actually greatly shrinks it because

00:16:32.860 you're telling, I don't know, half the people that if they come in and speak their mind,

00:16:36.420 they're going to be murdered. That obviously stifles speech. Even obscenity. The reason why

00:16:43.740 obscenity is not protected is because anyone who's ever looked at a naked lady on the internet knows 0.82

00:16:48.400 that when you are looking at obscene content, that doesn't aid your rational faculties. That

00:16:54.480 actually undermines your rational faculties. It undermines the possibility of rational discourse.

00:16:58.760 That's why. Going all the way back to the constitution, going back even much further than

00:17:02.380 that. And in this case, he's saying, when you lie about law enforcement in this way,

00:17:07.300 when you lie in such a way as to encourage violence, in some cases, if you directly incite

00:17:13.720 violence, you have no place in the political conversation in America. Even this point on lies,

00:17:20.480 it's really important. A friend of mine once described the issue precisely to me. He said,

00:17:25.980 well, Michael, I refer to lies as contraceptive speech. I said, contraceptive speech, what does 0.59

00:17:32.500 that mean? He said, well, just as the purpose of sex is procreation. And one of the reasons that

00:17:39.160 contraception is a little sus, a little dubious, is immoral, is because it forecloses the purpose of

00:17:49.000 the act. It turns the act away from the thing that it's intended for. Well, the same thing with

00:17:55.760 speech. What is speech for? Speech is for conveying the truth. And when you tell a lie, you're going

00:18:02.660 through the motions of speech. You're making sounds, you're moving your mouth. If you're Italian, 1.00

00:18:07.340 you're moving your hands. But you're undermining its purpose. You're turning speech against its very

00:18:12.500 purpose. Because you're not conveying the truth. You're actually undermining the truth.

00:18:18.960 Brilliant point from JD. Really shows you, I think, the guy knows what time it is. The guy

00:18:24.560 understands the urgency of this moment. Because there are still some people who see the polls,

00:18:30.080 see the surveys of very liberal people being eight times as likely to support political violence as

00:18:35.320 very conservative people, who see 30% plus of young liberals defending political violence.

00:18:42.300 Many, many multiples higher than conservatives and moderates. Many multiples higher than older

00:18:48.040 liberals even. They're looking at this. They're seeing the spate of attacks. So you can go back

00:18:53.240 to BLM or go back earlier. But then you just see all the transgender ideology encouraging violence. 1.00

00:19:00.000 You can see, obviously, the assassination of Charlie. Now, this attack on the ICE facility. 0.91

00:19:04.160 They see this problem. And some of these, I don't know, older conservatives or moderates,

00:19:08.340 they say, oh, well, this problem will work itself out. I'm not sure that it will.

00:19:12.840 All of the available evidence says the political violence from the left is going to get worse

00:19:17.040 unless we do something about it. Unless we reform our political conversation in America. Unless we

00:19:23.660 enforce the law against people who are violating it. Violating it with their physical violence and

00:19:28.560 violating it with even speech acts. Okay. Speaking of one's place in society and speech and violence,

00:19:37.880 a couple of young conservatives, Lance Johnston and Cam Higby, showed up to campus, obviously inspired

00:19:45.160 by Charlie Kirk for what they're calling the fearless debate tour to do what Charlie did, to set up a table,

00:19:51.240 have conversations. Charlie was not the only one who did this. Crowder did this as well. A lot of

00:19:57.740 people did this kind of thing. Tabling in the middle of a quad, having open conversations.

00:20:03.420 These guys chose to do it at Tennessee State. Tennessee State University is a taxpayer subsidized,

00:20:10.040 historically black university. These guys are, at least one of them's white. I don't, 0.96

00:20:15.300 the other one is not white. He's a little duskier, kind of like me. You know, he's, I don't, 0.70

00:20:18.920 I don't know exactly. I can't, I don't see his pedigree on screen, but at least one of them's

00:20:22.360 a white guy. And they show up to this, this historically black university. The topics of

00:20:26.620 debate were DEI should be illegal and deport all illegals. Now let's talk. Here's just a brief

00:20:34.500 cut of how it went. So what, what part of our systems is for people of color?

00:20:41.460 All of it. All of it. The entire system is for everybody. Anybody who's an American

00:20:45.900 citizen. So you feel like there's, there's nothing. So you feel like everybody is equal.

00:20:52.240 Yeah. I mean, everybody's not, everybody's equal in their rights, but not everybody's 1.00

00:20:57.560 obviously equal in their, you know, what they have. This system can't be ignored. Like we

00:21:02.020 can't just say it does not exist because there are countless examples of it existing.

00:21:06.580 Maybe just one example of what you're talking about. So what's wrong with the system that

00:21:12.000 allows, I guess, racism to be systemic or institutionalized?

00:21:18.860 I shrugged his shoulders. Okay. So then they fast forward a little bit, more students come.

00:21:27.340 You see people start to film it. And then some lady, some girl goes and takes the signs down.

00:21:35.120 Then some other girl goes and steals one of the signs. 1.00

00:21:40.160 And they keep in, and a guy, is that a guy? It looks like a guy steals a sign. And some other

00:21:44.460 guy wearing a do-rag and a wife beater goes straight, yelling at him. And then as they're 0.97

00:21:48.020 driving away, a mob of these students starts screaming at them. I think one of them was

00:21:53.000 holding a BLM sign. Anyway, in response, Cam Higbee of this crew comes out and says,

00:22:01.500 if you want to talk to people who disagree with you, you go to the place where people disagree

00:22:05.440 with you. So that he said, that's why we're coming here to have these conversations. It's

00:22:08.300 obviously inspired by what Charlie was doing. Here's what the school had to say.

00:22:14.880 Tennessee State University. Statement on unauthorized campus activity.

00:22:20.840 Today, a group of individuals unaffiliated with Tennessee State appeared on campus without prior

00:22:25.800 notice in accordance with university policy. Any demonstration or protest activity requires

00:22:30.740 advance approval and permitting. They were escorted off the university grounds. Safety and well-being

00:22:36.100 of our students is our highest priority. Okay. So fair enough. Fair enough. You know, when Charlie

00:22:41.380 would do these events, when any of us give any speeches on campus, obviously I've been doing that

00:22:45.480 for many years at this point, as have a lot of us, we get advance approval and all the rest of it.

00:22:51.100 Now, it's a taxpayer-funded university. Put all that aside. Sure. They say, you guys should have

00:22:57.720 gotten a permit first. Okay. Not one statement on the behavior of the students. Not one statement.

00:23:06.040 Not one, hey, also students, you shouldn't steal the signs. Also students, you shouldn't threaten

00:23:11.620 people. Also students, you shouldn't mob around the car. Also students, you should be able to have

00:23:15.640 a conversation. You should be able to properly speak the English language and exchange ideas. Not one

00:23:20.900 statement about that. And if you look at Tennessee State, it's being reported that the graduation rate

00:23:24.780 is abysmal. I think it's like 23% or something like that. For some reason, these universities are

00:23:30.120 still being funded by the government. I think it gets to a point that I was talking about yesterday,

00:23:38.300 which is, really, I guess we've been talking about it for a whole week, which is, not everything is

00:23:45.380 for everybody. I think way too many people go to college and university today. And they really have

00:23:52.100 no place there. They have no interest in being there. In a lot of cases, it's only going to saddle

00:23:56.060 them with debt. And the only consequence on the university is it's going to reduce standards.

00:24:00.740 That's all it does. It doesn't benefit anybody. It only damages people. Likewise, when you allow

00:24:07.180 screaming banshees and terrorists and radical ideologues with suicidal ideologies into the public

00:24:13.980 marketplace of ideas, you only undermine the marketplace of ideas. You don't expand it.

00:24:19.320 You don't encourage healthy discourse. You just undermine the whole thing. And so you actually

00:24:22.320 have to exclude those people. You can't just wish civilized behavior into existence. I guess that's

00:24:30.160 my point. The idea of sending these students, I'm not saying every student at this university,

00:24:35.020 obviously 23% of them are doing relatively all right. But the ones who aren't going to graduate,

00:24:40.680 they really have no place at the university. And certainly that mob of students there,

00:24:44.620 they have no place at a university. They probably don't have place in high school.

00:24:48.680 Okay, they clearly haven't learned very much. And so what's the benefit of sending them to

00:24:54.060 these universities? They don't even know how to have a conversation, much less to rigorously

00:24:59.500 pursue the truth in a way that involves hours and hours of study and lots of discipline and

00:25:04.940 suppressing one's passions. They're just apparently not capable of that. So they need to go do something

00:25:10.920 else. You can't just wish civilized behavior into existence. And this gets to my broader point on the

00:25:19.740 marketplace of ideas. You can't just wish a healthy, free exchange of ideas into existence. And that's

00:25:25.400 what a lot of people want to do in the wake of Charlie's assassination and all of this increased

00:25:30.900 political violence. They want to just kind of wish it into existence. They say, well, we're just going

00:25:34.820 to close our eyes and wish double extra hard for a healthy, free exchange of ideas. You're not going

00:25:41.920 to get that. If you want to have a healthy exchange of ideas, you have to suppress the elements,

00:25:51.160 the people and the ideas that are undermining that. You actually need to use the power of the

00:25:57.940 government and of civil associations and of businesses in a just and temperate way to establish

00:26:03.100 the market conditions that will allow for that exchange of ideas. You look at that scene, you say,

00:26:08.280 this is a huge embarrassment. This is not a university in any meaningful sense of the term.

00:26:14.740 We should be discouraging that. Whatever Tennessee state is, whatever it's producing, which is three

00:26:21.280 quarters flunkies and a mob of these people, we should be ashamed of that. We should not be,

00:26:27.400 we should be discouraging that. We certainly should not be subsidizing that with taxpayer dollars.

00:26:32.740 Now, speaking of political disorder, a police officer in London has just threatened to arrest

00:26:38.920 a Jew for looking too Jewish around Muslims. He committed the crime of being a Jew around Muslims. 1.00

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00:28:02.820 This video going viral out of the UK.

00:28:09.580 You are quite open to it. This is a pro-Palestinian mark. I'm not accusing you of anything, but I'm worried 1.00

00:28:15.620 about the reaction to it. It'll help you be a sport. It'll be serious. You can go about your business,

00:28:20.300 go where you like freely. Or, if you choose to remain here because you are for the rich and

00:28:25.180 people in these other people, you'll be arrested. If I remain here, you'll arrest them. Because your

00:28:31.540 presence is antagonising a larger deal where we can't deal with all of them. If they attack you,

00:28:36.940 I think you don't think that your presence has... You are... You are... Excuse me there. Excuse me

00:28:44.080 there, Shlomo. You're looking... You're rather openly Jewish, I see. You got that hat on, and I don't 1.00

00:28:49.800 think you're the Pope. So, you understand here, you're going to have to scram. Why? Well, you see,

00:28:58.100 because you're a Jew, and you're looking like a Jew, you know, yeah? And anyway, the Muslims don't like 0.99

00:29:05.440 that very much, so I'm going to have to arrest you, you understand? Because this is merry old England. 0.97

00:29:10.800 And we do whatever the roving gangs of bloodthirsty Muslims want us to do. If you have any daughters, 1.00

00:29:18.800 we'd love to deliver them up to the Muslim gangs as well, if you wouldn't mind there. Yeah, yeah, 1.00

00:29:22.980 that'd be very nice. Thank you. And then on your merry way. Thanks. No dreidels out here, mate. 1.00

00:29:30.600 That's not good, is it? He says that the Jew is creating a breach of peace

00:29:40.660 by existing around Muslims. Imagine this was a pro-Palestine march. Imagine this were, I don't 1.00

00:29:53.860 know, a pro-Armenia march. Armenia, the oldest Christian country in the world, became Christian

00:29:59.920 before the Edict of Milan legalized Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. Let's say it was a 0.99

00:30:04.220 pro-Armenian march, and there were a Jew walking around. Do you think that the Armenian Christians

00:30:10.600 would threaten to kill the Jew? And do you think they would get the cops to say, hey, you got to 0.97

00:30:14.640 stop being a Jew here? No. Christians don't do that, generally speaking. So then the question to me 0.99

00:30:22.860 is not, do you want people in your country who support Palestine? I've long said I have the least 1.00

00:30:31.080 popular view of the Israel-Palestine conflict, which is, I think it's complicated. We don't need

00:30:36.200 to rehash the curves and details of that now, but I recognize it's a complicated debate. But

00:30:43.740 my question is not, do you want people in your country who are pro-Palestine? My question is not,

00:30:49.200 are you a big fan of Judaism or the state of Israel or any, that's not my question.

00:30:55.000 My question is, do you really want to allow a lot of people into your country 1.00

00:31:01.980 who harass Jews all the time? Is that civilized behavior? Forget about your opinions of Islam or

00:31:10.860 Judaism or Christianity for that matter. Do you want to live in a country where a Jewish guy can't 1.00

00:31:19.340 walk around in his yarmulke without fear of being arrested? And without fear of being arrested in

00:31:27.600 order to protect him from the mob that wants to get him? Do you want to live in that kind of country?

00:31:33.820 That's anti-social behavior by Western standards. That's contrary to the kind of countries that we 0.80

00:31:42.360 generally like to live in. This is a big, big problem. And it's an especially big problem in

00:31:50.020 London, Londonistan. I have a friend of mine in the UK frequently when he texts me, and if he's going

00:31:55.240 to say, you know, good luck or something like that, he'll say, oh, you know, best wishes, good luck. Or as

00:31:59.160 we say in London, inshallah, you know, it's become Londonistan, you know, it's become Pakistan West or

00:32:06.540 something. And that's going to reshape the culture. And it's not even about the particulars of the

00:32:14.400 conservative Jew and the Shiite or the Sunni Muslim or this. It's just, I would prefer, putting all 0.79

00:32:23.780 questions of religion aside, I would prefer to live in a country where Jews don't get arrested because

00:32:30.680 their very existence riles up the bloodthirsty passions of mobs on the streets. I would prefer

00:32:40.040 to live in that kind of country. And if mass Muslim migration in the UK is causing this kind of thing,

00:32:46.960 then the UK should do something about it. Will they? No. And I think it's because of the

00:32:54.920 the limitless ideologies of liberalism. The ideologies that say any kind of limits, any kind

00:33:02.500 of exclusions, any kind of taboos unnecessarily suppress freedom and autonomy, and we can't have

00:33:08.560 that. And they always focus on immigration in that way. They say, well, we can't exclude anyone

00:33:13.320 in immigration. We can't put any caps on immigration because if we did that, that would be illiberal.

00:33:18.440 But when you do just flood a country, especially a small little island nation with one particular

00:33:28.560 group of people, and they bring with them all of their animosities that are sort of foreign to your

00:33:34.660 country, then you're going to have to exclude Jews from Piccadilly Circle, I guess, because the 1.00

00:33:40.700 mobs that you let in in the name of autonomy and freedom and limitless expression, they don't like 1.00

00:33:47.200 them. Those people are going to set the exclusions because all societies need exclusions. Okay.

00:33:52.820 Speaking of religion and politics, and I want to go back to MSNBC. I have to go back and beat up on

00:33:59.060 MSNBC because MSNBC is sounding the alarm. You know, whenever there's any political scandal with the

00:34:05.860 left, the story is never that the left did something bad. It's always that the right is pouncing,

00:34:11.800 fear of the blowback of the right, whatever. And so they're sounding the alarm. Tina,

00:34:17.200 Neuen on MSNBC, sending the alarm on Christian nationalists like Aristotle.

00:34:27.140 What you're seeing here is a movement called Christian nationalism that merges Christianity

00:34:32.860 as it's been practiced in America for centuries with a very specific interpretation of what the

00:34:39.160 founding fathers wanted, what Aristotle wanted, going all the way back to the ancients. You saw Larry

00:34:44.960 Arnn, who is the president of Hillsdale College and a proponent of this strain of interpretation of

00:34:51.460 the Bible, merge Christianity and protecting the Western civilization values into one and the same

00:34:59.340 thing. It's a very somewhat convoluted argument. But if you distill it into the right talking points,

00:35:06.740 it really hits you in the patriotic heart area, as it were.

00:35:10.040 Okay, really interesting. So we need to fear Christian nationalists like Aristotle who lived 0.68

00:35:16.740 centuries before Christ. Yes, got it. Okay. So Aristotle, if you support Aristotle, you're a

00:35:24.080 Christian nationalist. Aristotle who lived, what shall we say, at least 16 centuries? No, sorry,

00:35:31.980 more like 18 centuries before nationalism, maybe more. Not a Christian, pagan Greek. Aristotle is a

00:35:41.780 Christian nationalist. Who else is a Christian nationalist? According to this woman, Larry Arnn,

00:35:50.060 president of Hillsdale College, is a Christian nationalist. Larry Arnn, by the way, whose school

00:35:54.840 of philosophy comes from Leo Strauss. Leo Strauss, notably a Jew, not any kind of Christian nationalist.

00:36:04.660 And then according to New York City Councilman Justin Brannan, he was reacting to Stephen Miller's

00:36:09.980 excellent speech at Charlie Kirk's Memorial. He says, beyond grotesque, Miller is a megalomaniac,

00:36:14.260 unmoored Christian nationalist whose rage belies any notion of grief. Stephen Miller, 0.52

00:36:19.460 who say whatever you like about him, don't think he's a Christian. I think he's a little bit more

00:36:27.820 like that guy in London who was almost arrested for existing, a member of a certain ancient nomadic 0.81

00:36:33.200 tribe. So these people, they use this phrase, Christian nationalism. And the best examples they can

00:36:42.000 pick. Not one of them promotes Christian nationalism, and two of the examples are not Christian.

00:36:48.160 You pick a pagan, and you pick a Jew. We're going to have to do a Matt Walsh-style documentary, 1.00

00:36:57.240 aren't we? I almost didn't think... We're going to have to do what is a Christian.

00:37:02.920 They don't even know what a Christian is. If you say that Christian nationalism is the ideology of

00:37:09.100 Aristotle, you are telling... I'm not trying to be hyperbolic or unfair. If your argument is

00:37:17.960 that Christian nationalism is the ideology of Aristotle, you don't even know what Christianity

00:37:25.080 is. If Stephen Miller is your example of Christian nationalism, you don't know what Christianity is.

00:37:34.660 You don't know what Judaism is. You don't know anything. It's just a phrase that they use.

00:37:42.300 This is... Are these people capable of speech? Speech has been the topic, obviously, for the past

00:37:49.380 couple of weeks. Are these people capable of speech? They can make sounds. They make sounds.

00:37:55.480 And they gesticulate. And they kind of go through the performance of speech, but their words don't mean

00:38:05.440 anything. It's just like sounds jumbled together. And this is a critique I've made of the left for

00:38:12.200 almost a decade now. One of the hallmarks of the left, in my experience, is that they love the

00:38:17.940 appearance of a thing, but not the essence of the thing. You know, they like vegan meat, vegan sausage,

00:38:25.900 or I don't know, decaf coffee or something. They want the appearance, the trappings of the thing,

00:38:31.180 but not the essence of the thing. They want the appearance of speech, the appearance of political

00:38:35.520 discourse. If you're calling Stephen Miller and Aristotle Christian nationalists, you're not

00:38:42.880 capable of speech. Now, speaking of speeches, President Trump made a great one at the UN

00:38:48.720 yesterday. There's one last clip of it. I played a little bit of it yesterday. There's one last clip

00:38:52.000 I want to get to because it's quite pertinent. Download the Daily Wire Plus app and bring the

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00:39:24.560 Roku, Samsung, and more. My favorite comment yesterday is from Emily's 5024. It says,

00:39:30.180 all of a sudden, the libs don't trust the science. It's so true. They don't.

00:39:37.560 On Tylenol. Oh, I hope we have time to get to Tylenol. Maybe we might have to get to that tomorrow.

00:39:41.360 We'll see. Maybe I'll try to fly through this. President Trump shows up to the UN and he attacks

00:39:49.320 the UN for encouraging mass illegal migration into America, for funding it, for calling for it.

00:39:55.800 And he says, you guys are really undermining our interests here. Raises a question,

00:39:58.820 why does the US fund the UN? We fund 22% of the UN's regular budget, 27% of the peacekeeping

00:40:03.440 budget. Why? We host them in New York. Why? If the UN is an instrument of American imperial power,

00:40:09.760 if the UN advances America's national interest, great. I'm all for it. I think we should be

00:40:14.720 involved in geopolitics. I think we just have to be. But if the UN is undermining America's national

00:40:19.920 interest in such a basic way, what's the point of it? Get rid of it. Bulldoze it and build a Trump

00:40:24.880 condominium. Well, Trump goes further. He doesn't just talk about America's national interest. He

00:40:29.440 says, hey, all of you, you guys. Mass migration, being encouraged by the UN, is undermining all of

00:40:37.580 your countries too. And your countries have the right to stop it.

00:40:41.440 Proud nations must be allowed to protect their communities and prevent their societies from

00:40:47.640 being overwhelmed by people they have never seen before with different customs, religions,

00:40:54.200 with different everything. It's so basic. It's so simple that a lot of people, I think,

00:40:58.340 glossed over it. But this is pretty big. When I was a kid, there were two views you could have on

00:41:02.580 migration. You could either support both illegal immigration and legal immigration,

00:41:07.320 or you could merely support legal immigration, but not illegal immigration. That was it. The two

00:41:14.420 views were illegal bad, legal good, or illegal good, legal also good. Those were the two views.

00:41:24.360 There is a third view, which is that migration is bad. Sometimes, at least sometimes.

00:41:30.500 Certain writers and thinkers, I frequently quote Dante on this subject, but goes all the way back

00:41:37.420 to the ancient Greeks, like Aristotle and Plato, have argued that immigration really introduces a

00:41:43.500 lot of problems into cities. And you need to be really, really careful when you accept immigrants, 1.00

00:41:47.920 if you do it at all. But certainly, when you have a mass influx of foreigners who are not

00:41:54.240 assimilating, then you really have to tamp it down. But our societies believe we just can't,

00:42:00.480 that it would just, it would be racist, or it would be illiberal, or it would be wrong

00:42:04.680 not to fling open the borders. And that's not true. What Trump is telling the world,

00:42:11.620 and what he has reminded our own nation is, you can stop it. You can say no. You can change things.

00:42:19.360 You don't need to consign yourself to national suicide. And if an ideology demands that you

00:42:29.060 commit a national suicide, you should probably get rid of that ideology. And you've seen this

00:42:34.620 in Europe a little bit. Viktor Orban in Hungary is very good on this. Because while all the rest of

00:42:40.580 Europe nesses, they're all liberal democracies, he says we're an illiberal democracy. We're a democracy

00:42:44.520 for sure. But we're illiberal. We're a country that's a thousand years old, founded on the crown

00:42:49.580 of St. Stephen. Okay? We're way older than Enlightenment-era democracy. And we don't want

00:42:58.400 liberalism. We're way, way older than liberalism. Okay? We can do it. We can do it. It can be done,

00:43:05.940 believe it or not. Now, on the UN, you'll recall, you might, you'll probably recall that two terrible

00:43:10.740 things happened yesterday at the UN. There was actually a third one. President Trump was arriving

00:43:17.620 at the UN. He gets on the elevator, escalator rather, with his wife. And the escalator suddenly

00:43:22.540 stops. And had he not been holding on, he could have jolted forward, really injured himself. He's

00:43:27.320 79 years old. Melania could have hurt herself too. And then they just walked up the stairs.

00:43:33.400 Trump gets there. The teleprompter goes out. He gives a speech off the cuff. He killed it. Killed it.

00:43:37.520 Very few people could have done that. He killed it. Then, apparently, the microphone was out. 1.00

00:43:43.900 So, he asked Melania. This is all getting this from Truth Social. He asked Melania,

00:43:48.980 how did the speech go? And she goes, I couldn't hear anything. If people weren't listening in their

00:43:53.140 translator microphones, they didn't hear anything. And President Trump concludes,

00:43:59.400 this wasn't a coincidence. He said, maybe, he was joking. He said, oh, I don't know. Maybe these

00:44:03.900 guys don't have any money. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe they're having problems. But he goes, this

00:44:07.200 wasn't a coincidence. This was triple sabotage at the UN. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

00:44:11.300 I'm sending a copy of this letter to the Secretary General, and I demand an immediate investigation.

00:44:15.180 No wonder the United Nations hasn't been able to do the job that they were put in existence to do.

00:44:19.220 All security tapes at the escalator should be saved, especially at the emergency stop button.

00:44:23.460 The Secret Service is involved. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:44:25.960 I strongly suspect President Trump is implying as much, but I'll just state it clearly.

00:44:34.580 People need to be arrested over this. This was a major security breach. This was an attack on the

00:44:39.640 President of the United States, a man who's already survived one very near assassination that blew off

00:44:45.300 part of his ear, and even another assassination attempt where the perpetrator there was just found

00:44:49.940 guilty on all counts. This is very, very serious. And whoever pushed the stop button,

00:44:55.960 on the escalator, needs to spend a lot of time in jail. That needs to be done. This should be

00:45:02.620 prosecuted by the United States if we can do it. This should be investigated by the UN if they're

00:45:07.760 willing to do it. That needs to happen. As I've said for a couple weeks now, there need to be

00:45:19.060 consequences until behavior improves. Closing your eyes and just wishing that the other

00:45:25.940 side behaves in a civilized way has not worked. It has led to a spike in left-wing terror. Don't take

00:45:32.600 my word for it. Take multiple surveys and the Atlantic Magazine at their word. Take the events that

00:45:40.500 we've all seen. The killings. The shootings. The threat to the President of the United States two days ago.

00:45:48.380 Now, speaking of global politics, one little victory lap for the Trump administration that

00:45:58.720 very few people are talking about, but it's a big one. Jerome Powell, who's been in a real fight with

00:46:02.560 the President. The President's not happy with how he's managed the Federal Reserve. Jerome Powell just

00:46:07.860 came out. He was asked at the 2025 Economic Outlook Luncheon whether or not the tariffs had damaged the

00:46:17.440 economy led to higher prices for consumers, because that's what everyone said. Remember,

00:46:21.320 back in April, they said that the tariffs were going to destroy the economy, and it was going to

00:46:25.620 disrupt global trade. Who knows? It could lead to a war, and at the very least, it was going to pass

00:46:29.520 on all these prices to the consumers. Cost of consumer goods was going to go way, way up,

00:46:33.660 and it was going to be a disaster. That's what all the top economists said. That's what all the genius

00:46:38.720 talking head pundits said on TV, other than those of us who said, I don't know, Trump's got a good

00:46:43.580 record on this. Maybe let's just let him cook a little bit. So here is not the Treasury Secretary,

00:46:50.780 Scott Besant, not the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick. No, no, no. This is the Chairman of the

00:46:56.200 Federal Reserve, the Independent Central Bank, in a big public fight with Trump. What happened with

00:47:02.900 the tariffs? We're now collecting a good bit of revenue. The government is, the federal government,

00:47:08.800 collecting a good chunk of revenue at $300 or $400 billion a year apace. And the question is,

00:47:15.460 who's paying that? And the candidates for paying those tariffs would be the exporter,

00:47:20.460 the foreign exporter, or someone on our shores. It could be a company or a retailer. Someone is using

00:47:27.160 the imported product to manufacture something, or the end consumer. And so far, in its incredibly early

00:47:34.600 days, it doesn't look like the overseas exporters are carrying the bulk of it. It looks like it's

00:47:41.700 that middle group. It's retailers and it's importers, and they're not passing along to consumers

00:47:47.580 that much of the cost. So the actual effects on inflation have been quite modest so far. It's

00:47:53.540 really not, it's a small amount, but... Yep. Yeah, that's right. I can actually attest to this

00:48:00.420 because I am a business owner that does business overseas because I produce a product that just in

00:48:06.620 its nature tends to be made overseas, and that's premium cigars. So I've seen this. We were hit with

00:48:12.020 an 18% tariff out of Nicaragua. And I hope that the administration reconsiders that because the

00:48:19.580 premium cigar industry is very much on the team politically, you know, and you just really can't

00:48:25.260 make these products in America. We use American tobacco sometimes, but given all of the tobaccos

00:48:32.720 you have to get from all over the world and all the rest of it, that's very difficult to do.

00:48:36.100 So anyway, it'd be nice if the tariffs decrease there. But in the meantime, while we do have an

00:48:40.440 18% tariff, we've just been eating the cost. I think basically almost the entire cost. We've just

00:48:46.160 been eating it ourselves. And so we're getting squeezed a little bit, squeezes the margins, but

00:48:49.820 I know that I'm not the only company that's doing this. Obviously, the chairman of the Federal

00:48:55.180 Reserve says this. All the geniuses, all the pundits, even some of them on the right,

00:49:01.000 and the economists, they all said the tariffs are going to lead to massive inflation because the

00:49:06.200 price increases were going to be passed on to the consumers. Tariffs are just a tax on the consumer,

00:49:10.620 and it just hasn't happened. Turns out that a lot of what we're taught in theory and in ideology

00:49:16.840 and in economics 101 freshman year of college, turns out that doesn't totally accurately represent

00:49:22.780 the world economy. Not to say inflation won't kick in. That might at some point. The prices

00:49:26.700 might be passed on to the consumers at some point. It's just we were told that this was going to happen

00:49:30.260 ASAP, and it didn't happen. Another win that has gone largely unnoticed for the Trump admin.

00:49:36.260 Okay. Today is Theology Thursday. The rest of the show continues. Now you don't want to miss it.

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