The Michael Knowles Show - September 29, 2025


Ep. 1824 - BREAKING： Violence Escalates After LDS Church Shooting And Fire


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

167.49951

Word Count

8,067

Sentence Count

607

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

A gunman opened fire at a Mormon church in Michigan, killing four people and injuring eight more. The FBI has yet to identify the shooter, and no arrests have been made. Is this an act of anti-Semitism or anti-LDS bigotry?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 While the left ups the political violence from Portland to Chicago,
00:00:03.420 a killer with an unknown motive launches a brutal attack on an LDS church in Michigan
00:00:08.880 as the American social order continues to unravel. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the show. Hey, you remember when the FBI said that it had no one present on January
00:00:42.160 6th? Remember that at first the story was the FBI had no one present there. And then they said,
00:00:46.960 okay, there were a few dozen agents and assets, but it was no big deal. Anyway, we just found out
00:00:54.000 that the FBI had 275 agents, plainclothes agents, not wearing their uniforms, plainclothes agents
00:01:00.780 in the crowds on January 6th, the worst day in the history of this or any republic.
00:01:08.920 We'll get into all those facts that just keep coming out as well as the corruption of American
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00:02:35.440 an LDS church, a Mormon church in Michigan, was attacked. A guy, here's what we know. We know a guy
00:02:42.780 drove into the building, then got out, started shooting people. There seems to be some kind of
00:02:48.300 fire accelerant on there. The whole church burns down. Four people are dead. Eight people are
00:02:53.920 injured. What we know about the shooter so far is that he's a 40-year-old guy. He is dead. He was
00:03:02.300 killed in the shootout. And he's an Iraq war veteran. That's all we know. Unlike Jimmy Kimmel,
00:03:09.940 we're not going to jump to any conclusions. And unlike Jimmy Kimmel, we're certainly not going to
00:03:13.000 lie about his motives. That's all we know so far. There's an investigation going on. We'll find out
00:03:18.580 what it is. It could be anti-LDS bigotry. It could be anti-religious prejudice. It could be
00:03:26.780 we don't know. It could be left. We don't know. We just don't know. And we're not going to jump to
00:03:31.060 conclusions. All we know that we should do right now is pray for the victims and investigate. That's
00:03:40.300 all that we know. And these are the two responses. And I say that because some people have had other
00:03:46.640 immediate responses, maybe to jump to conclusions. But also, one response that I find unfortunate is
00:03:53.900 that some people have decided to respond to this attack by pointing out all of the things that they
00:03:59.960 consider erroneous in the Mormon religion. And it's not that you can, obviously, you can disagree with
00:04:05.840 LDS. But that should not be your first response. If that is your first reaction,
00:04:12.020 cool your jets, slow your roll a little bit, is what I would say. For a couple reasons. One,
00:04:19.280 it's unseemly. That's not what one does when one is grieving, when there is a tragedy taking place,
00:04:24.700 especially involving one's countrymen. But two, even if your purpose is to evangelize,
00:04:31.280 convert these people, taking the opportunity of a major tragedy in their community
00:04:37.680 to tell them everything you think is wrong with them, it's also probably just not going to work.
00:04:44.120 That's not civilized behavior. That's not the right thing to do. So anyways, we pray for the
00:04:49.840 community and obviously the specific congregation there in Michigan. And there needs to follow that
00:04:56.620 with much more investigation. And when we know more, we'll talk about it. We do know a little bit
00:05:02.220 more about the motives of some of the other public attacks that have been taking place.
00:05:07.360 For starters, Antifa tried to bomb an ICE facility in Chicago over the weekend.
00:05:13.580 Antifa, the organization we're told does not exist, even though it has a flag, even though it has members,
00:05:18.440 even though it has a network, even though it has chapters, we're told by the left it does not exist.
00:05:22.320 Just means you oppose fascism. This assemblage of communists and anarchists tried to bomb an ICE
00:05:28.100 facility in Chicago. So according to the Department of Homeland Security, arrests are being made.
00:05:34.480 Eleven violent rioters were arrested last night in Chicago outside the ICE detention facility.
00:05:39.200 These are two guns that were taken off rioters in Chicago. Right, I guess the Chicago gun control is
00:05:44.360 not working that well. Right against the fence at our ICE detention facility, this after a shooting
00:05:49.780 from, by all appearances, a left-wing shooter who shot up an ICE facility just days ago.
00:05:55.780 An investigation is underway into what appears to be some sort of explosive device found last night
00:06:00.920 near the ICE Chicago detention facility. No surprise, as I mentioned, just even in my own
00:06:05.400 experience, I was given a talk at the University of Pittsburgh, and two Antifa agents showed up and
00:06:11.440 threw an explosive at the building, seriously injured a female cop. Many, many other such examples.
00:06:16.200 That one just comes to mind because I was there firsthand. And it's not even just in recent years
00:06:21.040 that the anarchist and communist left has done this. This has been going on for over 100 years.
00:06:27.020 People forget because the mainstream news networks won't cover left-wing political violence.
00:06:33.960 Imagine what the history courses teach, but you don't really cover that much anymore in history
00:06:37.780 courses. Way back about 100 years ago, 1919, there was a spate of left-wing anarchist violence
00:06:43.760 throughout the country that carried over into 1920. You saw a number of attacks in the early 20th
00:06:49.640 century. Then again, you saw this in the 1960s and 70s with groups like the Weather Underground,
00:06:55.980 the various Black Power movements, Black Panthers would also set off bombs and murder people,
00:07:01.320 even target civilians in order to further political goals, which is the definition of terrorism.
00:07:06.320 The left has done this many, many times. And the most recent example over the last 10 years or so
00:07:11.060 is Antifa. This happens. And so this should be sobering on the one hand, but it also should give us
00:07:17.400 some hope. Because I know a lot of people are looking at the political violence, obviously,
00:07:22.660 with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, but other political violence in recent years and saying,
00:07:28.260 you know, good grief, is our country just totally falling apart? And the answer is yes,
00:07:33.200 but it's happened before. This is not our first experience with this. And so we can look back to
00:07:38.440 history as a blueprint. What happened after the left-wing violence in the 19-teens and 1920s?
00:07:44.660 Well, the way we fixed that was we cracked down on it. We recognized it for the threat to order
00:07:50.060 and law that it is. And we arrested a lot of these people. We passed laws that made it easier to
00:07:56.100 identify and target them. And we got rid of them from the public square. That's what we have to do
00:08:02.160 again. In the 1960s, our reaction was a little less effective, unfortunately. Yes, some of the left-wing
00:08:08.940 radicals were arrested. Yes, they sometimes were sort of prosecuted, but a lot of them ended up
00:08:14.100 being freed in one way or another. In the case of the Weather Underground, the Weather Underground
00:08:19.920 terrorists ended up getting sinecures as university professors, sometimes at public schools.
00:08:25.220 So that was not a good way to respond to this, unfortunately. And it's no surprise then that
00:08:31.840 those people who, it was Roger Kimball who called them tenured radicals, those people then educated
00:08:36.720 this generation and you're seeing left-wing violence again. So which way, Western man?
00:08:40.800 What are you going to do? The only way to stop this is to crack down on them. Happily, that's what
00:08:46.200 Trump is doing. So Trump has mobilized the federal agents, not just the DOJ to investigate these people,
00:08:51.520 not just to classify as Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, but also to deploy the National
00:08:57.640 Guard. So President Trump tweeted out that he was going to be deploying the National Guard to
00:09:02.840 Portland, sends the feds out over there. And these are the exact words. At the request of the Secretary
00:09:11.960 of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, I am directing Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to provide all
00:09:16.380 necessary troops to protect war-ravaged Portland and any of our ICE facilities under siege from attack
00:09:22.440 by Antifa and other domestic terrorists. I'm also authorizing full force if necessary. Thank you for
00:09:28.760 your attention to this matter. So this is important. To quote George W. Bush, fool me once, shame on you,
00:09:35.120 fool me twice, hey, hey, hey, the point is you're not going to fool me again. We have seen the attacks
00:09:40.180 on ICE for years now, rhetorically, politically, and also violently, from every level of the left.
00:09:49.260 We've seen it from the goon terrorists on the ground with the bombs all the way up to the elected
00:09:54.080 officials, all using the same kind of language, that ICE is the Gestapo. That's essentially the
00:10:00.840 only way you can refer to immigration enforcement on MSNBC, that ICE is fascistic, that it needs to
00:10:06.480 be dismantled, and on the left, that they need to be targeted and killed. So there's nothing more
00:10:14.000 the left could do to make clear their opposition to law enforcement. And so the federal government has
00:10:18.180 two options. One, let the left-wing anarchists just take over the political order, or two, enforce the
00:10:23.040 law. Trump has chosen the latter. Unfortunately, the liberal politicians have chosen the former.
00:10:28.220 Congress lady Maxine Dexter has posted, we are hearing reports of increased federal agents in
00:10:37.260 Portland. Let me be clear, Trump wants to tell a story of Portland that does not reflect who we are.
00:10:42.240 By the way, you can see the pictures of Portland in just the last month or two. It looks like a war zone.
00:10:48.180 The Portland we love is strong, compassionate, and unwavering in our commitment to protect
00:10:53.020 our neighbors, except when it involves like the police arresting criminals. The Portland we love
00:10:58.100 did not ask for federal agents and does not want them. We will not be divided. We are standing strong
00:11:04.500 to protect one another. You're not. You're not protecting one another. You're letting criminals
00:11:07.640 roam your streets and maraud and kill. That's why the federal government is coming in. So you're not
00:11:13.160 standing strong to protect one another. But furthermore, I want to get to this one line.
00:11:17.780 The Portland we love did not ask for federal agents and does not want them.
00:11:20.820 Dad, I don't want to. Dad, I don't want my vegetables. I don't want to do my homework.
00:11:27.440 Dad, that's what this woman's saying. I don't want to enforce the law and protect my constituents.
00:11:32.320 You can't make me. You're not the boss of me. Actually, yes, we are. Yes, Trump is. Yes,
00:11:41.200 the federal government is. Because of this little known provision of our constitutional order, namely
00:11:47.720 the supremacy clause, which says that the federal government exists for a reason. The federal
00:11:54.040 government does not exist merely so that when cities and states want to call them in as a matter
00:12:02.800 of convenience they can. The federal government exists to give a national quality to our government
00:12:10.120 and to intervene when the states and the cities fail. That's what it's for. And this, I think,
00:12:19.420 it might be a corrective even to some people on the right, certainly on the more libertarian right,
00:12:23.460 and on the, I don't know, the selfish right, which says, you know, if Portland wants to fail,
00:12:29.000 that's fine on them. Let them deal with the consequences. If New York and Chicago want to
00:12:33.660 fail, that's fine. Screw them. We don't care about the poor people who are being brutalized by the
00:12:39.320 left-wing ideologues. Who cares? What has Nashville to do with New York? Well, I'll tell you what it has
00:12:46.760 to do with New York. We're all in one country and we share a nation and we share a federal government.
00:12:53.780 And the cities and the states have no right to let their cities fail because those are American cities.
00:13:01.680 And the people in those cities are American citizens. Well, a lot of them are illegal aliens,
00:13:05.800 but they're Americans. They're within the border of America, many of them at least. And so we have an
00:13:11.180 obligation to them. And that's what Trump is going to do. This is one nation Trumpism, not the nation
00:13:19.060 of haves and have-nots, not the nation of the people who can live in the gated communities and
00:13:23.040 everyone else who has to deal with the terrible policies. No, we're one nation.
00:13:28.280 And the palace is never safe, can never rest easily while the cottage is unhappy.
00:13:34.940 So Trump is going to go in and restore order. We have to restore order.
00:13:38.560 There's this magical thinking that you get on the left and sometimes on the libertarian right,
00:13:42.780 which says that anytime the government actually does something, it can only make things worse.
00:13:47.420 In other words, to say the government does not exist for any reason.
00:13:49.760 This is contrary to the Christian idea of government, which is that the government is
00:13:52.820 put here for our good, that the civil authority is anointed by God and does not bear the sword
00:13:57.300 in vain. That's the Christian and classical understanding of government. The modern liberal
00:14:01.360 libertarian understanding of government is that it's an unhappy accident that any government
00:14:05.280 exists at all, and we need to do everything we can to abolish it. And then the magical hand
00:14:09.020 of the free market will spontaneously restore order. And that just doesn't really happen.
00:14:13.060 And the left capitalizes on the right's belief in that utopian ideology, because the left gets
00:14:21.700 into power and wields it for their own ill-begotten ideas. And the right gets into power and then does
00:14:31.680 nothing because they feel that it's somehow principled to let America decay. And so then the left advances
00:14:38.060 and the right remains stagnant and constantly on the defensive when we can even muster the courage to
00:14:42.380 defend ourselves. No more. That's not going to work. You know, the alternative to that is what
00:14:48.940 Giuliani did in New York, which is broken windows policing, the recognition that when you let the
00:14:53.800 little things decay, a lot more decay and violence is going to follow it. We don't want order in
00:15:00.680 Portland. Too bad. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. Sorry. Take care of your own city.
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00:17:01.200 stores in select states. You remember what we were told about January 6th, that it was an
00:17:10.660 insurrection, the worst attack ever on our sacred democracy. Ironically, January 6th was not even
00:17:18.420 the worst attack on our democracy of that year. That would, of course, go to BLM, which burned
00:17:24.520 federal buildings and killed dozens of people, torched cities across the country.
00:17:29.300 What happened on January 6th is a little bit confusing because there were some people who
00:17:34.020 were creating a little bit of chaos. There were other people who were being allowed into the U.S.
00:17:39.780 Capitol by the Capitol Police. There were other people like Nancy Pelosi who said that it was her fault
00:17:45.080 that she did not call in law enforcement assets to protect the Capitol. That it was her,
00:17:51.120 she took responsibility in a documentary made by her daughter. And then there was the FBI,
00:17:57.200 which said that it had nothing to do with January 6th. Then we found out some years later, okay,
00:18:03.300 well, the FBI had a few dozen people there. Some assets, but even the assets who were there,
00:18:09.220 they were just there of their own volition. They just coincidentally happened to be at the Capitol.
00:18:12.940 That's what we were told. And now we find out, the FBI acknowledges, that it had some more people,
00:18:19.680 not just a few more people, 275 plainclothes agents in the crowds on January 6th.
00:18:28.760 We found that out. What are we at? We're almost five years now after we were starting to ask about
00:18:35.640 FBI involvement. This is thanks to reporting from The Blaze. Almost five years later, we're finally
00:18:41.520 learning that the story we were told from the FBI was false. Now the FBI maintains the plainclothes
00:18:47.240 agents went in just to keep the peace. They didn't instigate any trouble. Even when you saw these very
00:18:52.840 suspicious videos of people, multiple people who were not arrested, who were not imprisoned for their
00:19:01.200 actions on January 6th, urging people to go into the Capitol. Multiple people, different ages.
00:19:09.640 Ray Epps was a famous case of this. Go in, you got to go into the Capitol. And people would respond to him
00:19:13.940 and say, no, no, no, we're not going to do that. You're a Fed, Fed, Fed. And then mysteriously,
00:19:19.060 they arrest, you know, Midwestern grannies for taking selfies in the rotunda. They throw them
00:19:24.320 in solitary. But these guys who incited mobs to go into the Capitol on January, they get off without
00:19:30.720 being arrested, without being harassed at all. Very, very strange. Now, at least though, the FBI is
00:19:35.620 saying, okay, we had hundreds of people there blending in, but they weren't doing anything nefarious.
00:19:41.520 And the problem is, that could be true. But the fact that the FBI has now lied to us for almost
00:19:48.740 five years means we have no reason to believe that that's true. We have a real credibility problem
00:19:54.940 with federal agencies. It's not that all of a sudden I became an expert on vaccines. That's not
00:20:04.140 why I'm skeptical of some vaccines now. It's not because I got some degree in epidemiology.
00:20:08.940 It's because the public health officials, who I was told to trust, lied to me specifically about
00:20:15.580 the COVID vaccine. And so as a result, I can no longer trust them, at least on the topic of vaccines.
00:20:22.360 That's why people have stopped trusting our federal institutions. It's not their fault.
00:20:28.440 The epistemological crisis, using a lot of fancy E words, epidemiological, epistemological,
00:20:33.820 but on the crisis of how do we even know things at all, it's really not the fault of the rubes and
00:20:39.600 the hoi polloi and all of us out here who don't have fancy degrees. It's the fault of the experts who
00:20:44.020 lied to us. When we don't have a ton of faith in our federal bureaucrats, that's not our fault.
00:20:50.100 Blame the FBI, which lied to us for almost five years. Which is why, which is why it is so important
00:20:58.880 to hold corrupt FBI officials accountable. And this brings us to one of the biggest stories that
00:21:06.820 the libs are yapping about today, the indictment of James Comey, James Comey, the former FBI director.
00:21:11.820 We are told that the indictment of James Comey, which just happened days ago, represents a collapse and
00:21:20.900 a decay of our federal government. Au contraire, Mayfair, au contraire. It's the opposite.
00:21:26.420 The problem we have right now is we don't have faith in our federal agencies. The reason is they
00:21:32.900 lied to us, including and especially the FBI. We want to get back to a place where we can have trust
00:21:38.880 in our federal agencies, in our federal government. We, in fact, have to get back to that place
00:21:43.580 if we're to have a functioning political order. There's a step in the middle. There's an intermediate
00:21:49.980 step. The intermediate step is we have to hold to account the corrupt people who squandered the agency's
00:21:56.840 credibility, which is why the indictment of James Comey is not merely just not the greatest upset in our
00:22:06.820 federal government. It's not merely that it's just not that bad. It's that it is positively good for the purpose
00:22:13.400 of restoring credibility to the agencies. Why is Comey indicted? Comey's indicted because, allegedly, he lied.
00:22:23.040 Comey gave false statements, allegedly, this is what he's charged with, and obstruction of a congressional
00:22:29.360 proceeding. He could face up to five years in prison if convicted. The response of the establishment media
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00:23:58.020 Comey is indicted for giving false statements and obstruction of a congressional proceeding.
00:24:03.540 This goes back to an alleged false statement he made to the Senate Judiciary Committee
00:24:07.260 five years ago, almost exactly five years ago, September 30th, 2020. And he was asked the same
00:24:14.520 question years earlier, also under oath. How is the Wall Street Journal covering this? Wall Street
00:24:17.960 Journal says, Justice Department officials are racing to obtain criminal charges this week against
00:24:25.180 former FBI Director James Comey, escalating President Trump's unprecedented efforts to prosecute
00:24:32.300 his political foes. Oh, really? President Trump's unprecedented efforts to prosecute his political
00:24:40.180 foes. I actually guess technically that's true. The efforts are unprecedented when they come from
00:24:49.260 Donald Trump. Donald Trump has never prosecuted his political foes before. But if you're saying that
00:24:56.020 prosecuting one's political foes is unprecedented, I would encourage the Wall Street Journal to do a
00:25:02.220 cursory investigation of the entire last four years from the Democrats. Do you recall that people like
00:25:09.920 Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis and Mark Meadows and John Eastman and many, many people who worked for
00:25:23.160 Donald Trump were indicted by the Democrats, by Joe Biden? And oh, and who? Oh, right. Trump was also
00:25:34.040 prosecuted four times over and had the FBI sicced on his home, raided his home at Mar-a-Lago by Joe Biden.
00:25:46.600 In that case, by the way, it was not even just a president prosecuting his predecessor, which was
00:25:53.380 unprecedented. It was also the president prosecuting his chief political rival because President Trump's
00:26:01.020 nomination in 2024 was essentially a fait accompli. Joe Biden knew that. Joe Biden wanted to run for a
00:26:08.260 second term. And so he decided he was going to wield the government to prosecute his chief and really
00:26:13.520 only rival. Unprecedented. I generally like the Wall Street Journal. I think they got a read. They
00:26:23.680 must have missed the last four years, didn't they? What about CNN? CNN headline can't make it up why
00:26:30.160 the Comey indictment is different from the Biden DOJ's indictment of Trump. So at least CNN, unlike the
00:26:37.140 Journal, apparently the CNN recognizes, OK, well, we look pretty bad because Democrats just spent the last
00:26:42.560 four years prosecuting all of the Republicans, including Trump. So we can't really say it's
00:26:48.220 unprecedented. OK, we're just going to say this is different. How's it different? This is what CNN
00:26:52.820 writes. Whatever one thinks of the decisions to indict a then former president. Pause. And chief
00:27:00.500 political rival. Don't forget that part. Whatever one thinks of the decision to indict a then former
00:27:06.180 president. This is a major escalation in Trump's ongoing politicization of the justice system and broader
00:27:11.800 weaponization of government. Said Contra, no, it's not. What are you talking about? Look, whatever you
00:27:17.740 think about when Joe Biden did a much worse version of what Trump is doing, this is unprecedented. No,
00:27:25.560 it's not. That's called a non sequitur. What are you talking about? What Trump is doing is different in
00:27:33.520 two fronts. I'll tell you how, in my view, it's different. Because what Trump is doing is justified and
00:27:40.380 what the Democrats did was not justified. Now, I know that some reasonable minds may vary on that.
00:27:46.100 People might let a little partisanship creep in and they'll say, well, no, no, no. What the
00:27:49.880 Democrats did was justified and what the Republicans are doing is unjustified. Again, I think that's
00:27:54.000 wrong. I would be happy to have that argument. But let's just put that aside for a second.
00:27:58.500 What the Democrats did was throw spaghetti at the wall to try to imprison the former president and
00:28:08.220 chief leader of the opposition and virtually everyone around him on anything. What Trump is
00:28:16.280 doing is holding one man accountable, one particularly corrupt man accountable for one thing that he
00:28:23.820 allegedly did, one or two things that he allegedly did. What Trump is doing is restrained. And by the
00:28:29.620 way, that man is not the chief political rival. He was an apparatchik of the government and a man who
00:28:34.900 politicized not only a federal agency, but law enforcement in particular, which means it's
00:28:39.200 particularly egregious. This is after Barack Obama weaponized his federal agencies when he turned the IRS
00:28:44.940 into a machine to target right-wing groups to try to give himself an advantage in the election.
00:28:50.840 We could go on and on and on relitigating all this. It's the Democrats who started it. It's
00:28:56.040 the Democrats who escalated it. President Trump's indictment of Comey is, if anything, a de-escalation.
00:29:02.400 If Trump indicted Obama and Biden, even that would not be an escalation. It would be matching what
00:29:08.640 the Democrats did to him. But in this case, merely indicting an allegedly corrupt and lying FBI
00:29:16.160 director is actually a de-escalation. The fact that that's the case shows you just how much the
00:29:24.440 Democrats perverted the government. Here is Stephen Miller on what this all means.
00:29:31.100 It truly is one of the most heinous things that has ever happened in the history of our country,
00:29:39.000 what James Comey did to our democracy.
00:29:41.220 I can't think of anybody in modern history who has done more to sabotage and attack our
00:29:47.940 constitutional republic than James Comey. Beginning with the Russia hoax in 2016, as you said,
00:29:56.660 the dirty dossier, James Comey, as the head of the FBI, tried to lay a trap to remove a duly elected
00:30:06.200 president from office to imprison and incarcerate his political allies and friends and to lead an
00:30:13.860 actual coup against the laws and constitution of the United States. What James Comey did is truly
00:30:22.700 one of the most severe assaults on our freedoms and liberties that has occurred in the whole history
00:30:29.780 of this nation. Well said. Well said, Stephen. He usually says things very well. Very incisive and
00:30:37.420 perspicacious political operator. And he's right. For the Republicans, and there are going to be plenty
00:30:43.720 of Republicans out there who say, I don't know. I don't like this. I don't like this indicting former
00:30:47.660 FBI directors. I don't know. This reads a little too banana republic to me. I don't know about that.
00:30:53.140 First of all, I think that this kind of indictment is a lot more justified than just about anything
00:30:59.980 the Democrats have done in four years. But let's go beyond that. I agree. I don't like indicting
00:31:07.540 former federal officials. I certainly don't like indicting former presidents. I agree that that is
00:31:13.520 banana republic behavior. That's the world we're living in right now. I want to get back to a place
00:31:20.500 where we don't do that, where we generally just don't prosecute our rivals and our predecessors.
00:31:28.380 The Democrats forced us into the world where we do that now. It wasn't the Republicans. It was the
00:31:33.300 Democrats exclusively. Remember, when Trump was elected, he was elected on Lock Her Up, Lock Her Up,
00:31:38.680 Hillary Clinton, who committed a bunch of crimes. He didn't. He didn't. Maybe he should have, but he
00:31:43.620 didn't. The Democrats did this. They brought us here. And now that's the world we live in.
00:31:48.200 And so the question is, how do we get back to the kind of world, the kind of political order where
00:31:54.740 we don't indict our rivals and our predecessors and federal agents, federal officials? Two possibilities.
00:32:03.060 One is you prosecute the people who did wrong. You hold accountable the people who created the
00:32:09.900 problem. And you create a major disincentive for those people and their successors to ever do it
00:32:14.660 again. That's one option. We call that the Trump-Steven Miller option. The other option is
00:32:20.180 what's being advocated by the squishes and the utopians and the people with their heads in the
00:32:26.460 sand. And that solution is, let's just set a better example. Let's just set a better example.
00:32:33.100 Let's just not do anything. Let's just have the grace. Some would call it grace. Some would call it
00:32:38.960 naivete. Let's just have the grace to let the Democrats who perverted our whole system and
00:32:44.240 brought us to the point of a corrupt third world banana republic. Let's just let them get away with
00:32:49.420 it if they promise not to do it again. Oh, they're not going to promise not to do it again.
00:32:54.340 Oh, they're actually already promising definitely to do it again. Okay, well, whatever. Let's just
00:32:58.320 be the bigger men. And let's just hope that they don't do it again. And I think that's going to
00:33:05.280 work out for the best. And at the very least, if they put us on the boxcars and ship us out of the
00:33:08.760 country, at the very least, we can say that we were principled. What are those principles? I don't
00:33:13.580 know if that's all that principled. Let me just ask you, I'm being a little bit polemical and
00:33:18.580 hyperbolic, but not by much. Which of those strategies is most likely to get us back to the
00:33:23.620 country in which we do not prosecute our rivals and predecessors? Which of those strategies?
00:33:29.960 Holding the bad guys accountable strategy, showing that we're willing to get tough and wield the
00:33:35.200 government for the purpose of justice and to play the game that the Democrats are playing,
00:33:39.540 but to do so in a way that is moral and just and with the goal of returning to a system where we
00:33:44.920 don't prosecute our rivals and predecessors or just pretending the problem doesn't happen.
00:33:50.060 Just hoping with no evidence that our rivals just change their ways. Which one do you think is
00:33:57.380 going to be more effective? If you agree, as any reasonable person should, that holding the bad
00:34:04.220 guys accountable is the more likely strategy to succeed, then you have to defend the indictment
00:34:09.880 of James Comey. You have to. I don't care how clubbable you are. I don't care how fancy and
00:34:15.340 bougie you are. I don't care how centrist and amiable you are. If you agree that it would be
00:34:21.020 good to get back to the place where we don't indict our predecessors and rivals, if you want to get back
00:34:26.340 there, and you agree that the most likely way to get back there is not to ignore the problem,
00:34:32.340 but to hold people accountable, then you have to support the indictment of James Comey.
00:34:37.040 And that's going to make you get your precious, pure little hands maybe a little bit dirty in
00:34:42.540 the muck of practical politics. And I know that there are very fancy little boys who don't want
00:34:46.540 to do that. They think politics exists on the pages of some magazine disconnected from practical
00:34:53.460 reality. Well, sorry. That's not where politics is. You're not doing any good by burying your head
00:34:59.200 in the sand and closing your eyes and letting the bad guys get away with perverting our system
00:35:03.760 and destroying our country. You're not doing any good. If you're going to whine about it, just
00:35:07.500 go complain in your own little corner. Let the adults handle the problem. Okay.
00:35:12.840 Now, speaking of the FBI, really, really good news coming out of the FBI, cleaning house.
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00:35:50.780 My favorite comment on Friday is from J.S. McDuff, who says,
00:35:55.460 Fortnite can't get on the App Store, but anti-ice apps can. Yeah, that's a little weird, isn't it?
00:36:00.960 There are apps that anarchists and communists can use to track the location of ICE agents
00:36:06.760 so that they can go find them, try to dox them, and try to murder them.
00:36:12.140 But you can't get Fortnite on the App Store. That seems like something's going wrong in our standards,
00:36:17.300 wouldn't you say? Okay, back on the FBI. News report, Libs Furious. The FBI has reportedly fired
00:36:27.400 agents who were photographed kneeling during the year of our Floyd 2020 and all of the BLM protests.
00:36:35.900 So there were these FBI agents who some of them are not looking very fit. Some of them are not
00:36:42.080 looking like they're field ready, okay? But that's just an observation, not calling anyone out by name.
00:36:46.800 They're kneeling. They're wearing FBI uniforms. They're taking a knee during the protest movement
00:36:57.240 around George Floyd. Those agents have been fired now. According to reports, some 20 agents were
00:37:04.360 terminated. Previously, the Bureau said that they had reassigned the agents. Since then,
00:37:09.640 they nixed them, got rid of them. And the Associated Press is really upset about this,
00:37:13.480 and they're reporting on it, I suspect, to create a national controversy to reinstate the agents.
00:37:20.360 It is so good that these agents got fired. It is way past due. They did this in 2020.
00:37:27.460 That means this cancer to our FBI has been festering for five years. They just finally
00:37:33.200 were taken care of. That's really bad. Do not be confused. What the liberal media are going to try
00:37:39.320 to tell you, just like they're telling you with the Trump indictments. They're going to try to tell you
00:37:43.580 that this is just about Trump punishing his political adversaries. He's punishing liberal
00:37:49.820 ideologues for their beliefs. Not at all. In the Comey case, Trump is being relatively restrained.
00:37:56.920 And the DOJ is only going after one of the most clearly corrupt and criminal figures from that era.
00:38:04.780 He's being modest. But when it comes to the FBI here, they're not fired because they're liberal.
00:38:10.820 They're fired because they oppose law enforcement. What does it mean to take the knee?
00:38:16.660 What does taking the knee during the George Floyd riots mean?
00:38:21.540 It means solidarity with a criminal who was resisting arrest. It means, quite explicitly,
00:38:29.300 opposition to law enforcement, the officers who are arresting the criminals, who are passing fake
00:38:35.640 money and who are doing drugs and who are resisting arrest. It means a broader kind of disrespect against
00:38:42.960 the country. Colin Kaepernick, you'll recall, kneeling in BLM protest against the American flag
00:38:48.800 and the national anthem. It's anti-American to its core, but it is specifically anti-law enforcement.
00:38:55.680 How can you tolerate FBI agents publicly opposing law enforcement?
00:39:03.660 That would be like bartenders publicly protesting alcohol. You just can't have it. It's not that you
00:39:09.700 don't have a right to protest alcohol, but if you're a bartender who protests alcohol, you're
00:39:15.720 probably going to lose your job. It's not that you don't have a right to protest law enforcement
00:39:20.040 in reasonable ways. I guess you do. You don't have a right to be an FBI agent and
00:39:25.640 protest law enforcement. It's not just that the government has a right to fire you in that case.
00:39:30.620 The government has an obligation to fire you. We give our taxpayer money to Washington, D.C.,
00:39:37.860 in part to hire people to enforce the law. If the government is hiring people who very publicly
00:39:46.160 oppose enforcing the law and oppose law enforcement in principle, then the government is squandering our
00:39:53.060 tax dollars. The government's doing something really, really wrong. They need to correct it, and the way
00:39:57.100 they correct it is by firing these people. Okay, speaking of federal law enforcement, this story,
00:40:01.440 it's one of my favorite stories of the past several weeks.
00:40:06.360 To show you just how deep and wide the illegal immigration problem runs,
00:40:12.620 you got ICE officials going around to Home Depots, arresting illegal aliens, economic migrants who
00:40:19.580 are just trying to get day labor work, fixing houses. You got ICE showing up to restaurants
00:40:26.860 and various work sites and rounding people up. But it's not just those guys. It's not just guys
00:40:32.420 picking grapes, okay? ICE just showed up and arrested the superintendent of, not California,
00:40:41.140 not Texas's, Iowa's largest school district, who is apparently an illegal alien. Here he is.
00:40:51.240 Thank you, Madam President. I stand here this evening before you with immense gratification
00:40:57.260 and certainly a sense of pride and humility. I am incredibly grateful for the vote of confidence
00:41:03.500 that the board has shown. Who is that man? That man is Ian Andre Roberts. Do you know how much
00:41:10.660 money Ian Andre Roberts was making? As superintendent of the Des Moines School District, he was making
00:41:16.320 $306,000 a year. He was an illegal alien. An illegal alien doing the jobs Americans won't.
00:41:24.280 You know, that's the problem. No ordinary American wants to just trudge away doing these thankless jobs,
00:41:32.060 like being the superintendent of a major school district,
00:41:34.800 for a piddling salary of several hundred thousand dollars per year.
00:41:44.260 The jobs Americans won't do. This guy, he apparently had some real problems. He had
00:41:49.480 gun charges. He could have left with his own volition. He didn't. He gets picked up by ICE.
00:41:56.260 That's illegal immigration. When the libs try to tell you that it's just the poor refugee. First of
00:42:04.600 all, they say it's refugees. It's generally not refugees. But when they try to tell you, oh, it's
00:42:08.360 just the poor Guatemalan migrant trying to feed his family, picking grapes, cleaning homes for low pay,
00:42:15.780 off the books in the shadows. There's a little bit of that. It's actually a problem that the Democrats
00:42:22.720 have encouraged these people to live in the shadows and work effectively as slave or indentured labor.
00:42:28.200 But it's also those guys. And it's not all just peasants from Venezuela. It's also guys from all
00:42:34.200 over the world who are taking advantage of our system and who are being protected by Democrats
00:42:40.040 because it gives them a political advantage. Making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.
00:42:47.340 That's what it is. Now, there's a big problem with schools. And this is actually a bigger problem
00:42:50.660 with schools. Before we go, have you ever heard of Assata Shakur? Assata Shakur. I remember Assata Shakur.
00:43:00.960 Assata Shakur was a left-wing terrorist from the 70s who murdered a cop. And Assata Shakur was also held
00:43:08.360 up as an icon by left-wing radicals. The real hardcore black power, you know, revolutionary types.
00:43:17.700 Anarchists, anarchists, communists, those types. These days, it's not just those types, though. Well,
00:43:24.240 I guess it is those types. The problem is those types have taken over the major institutions.
00:43:27.740 Assata Shakur died a few days ago. And the Chicago Teachers Union mourned her death.
00:43:36.520 Didn't even just mourn her death as, you know, she's a fellow human and each man's death diminishes me.
00:43:40.920 And no man is an island. No, no, no. Not the John Donne kind of mourning.
00:43:46.020 Positively grieved her loss and exalted her legacy.
00:43:50.540 Rest in power, says Assata Shakur. First of all, just a quick pause here. I don't mean to digress too
00:43:56.020 much. But when atheists come out and radical left-wing atheists and they say, rest in power,
00:44:02.620 not rest in peace, the English rendition of Requiescat and Pace. It's not rest in peace or the
00:44:07.500 peace of Christ or something. It's rest in power because of your legacy. Even though you're not in
00:44:14.000 power. If you're an atheist, if you're a huge lib, then you believe that that person is turning to
00:44:18.920 worm food, is being consumed in the earth, never to be seen or heard from again. In any case,
00:44:23.900 it says rest in power, rest in peace, Assata Shakur. Sorry, difficult to pronounce some of these names.
00:44:32.020 Today, we honor the life and legacy of a revolutionary fighter, a fierce rider, a revered elder of black
00:44:38.280 liberation, and a leader of freedom whose spirit continues to live in our struggle. Our strength
00:44:43.800 is the teachers union. These are people educating kids in Chicago or not educating kids in Chicago,
00:44:48.320 which explains the test scores. Assata refused to be silenced. After she murdered a cop, no, they
00:44:54.620 forget to include that part, said she taught us that it is our duty to fight for our freedom. It is
00:44:59.460 our duty to win. We must love each other and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains.
00:45:03.900 Okay. Assata Shakur was a member of the Black Liberation Army in the 70s, was convicted of the
00:45:09.700 first-degree murder of a New Jersey state trooper, Werner Forster, a name that is noticeably absent
00:45:14.820 from the Chicago Teacher Union obit. Assata Shakur escaped while awaiting sentencing with the help of
00:45:22.360 the Black Liberation Army and the May 19th Communist Organization, fled to Cuba, where she lived among one of
00:45:29.140 the worst enemies of the United States of the 20th century. And the Chicago Teacher Union is
00:45:35.660 mourning her loss and exalting her as a symbol of something we should strive to be.
00:45:44.020 This would be a good example of what I was talking about over the last couple weeks with the new
00:45:49.960 regulations that need to be placed over the marketplace of ideas. First of all, a ninth-grade
00:45:53.700 classroom is not exactly a roiling free marketplace of ideas because the educational endeavor
00:45:59.160 is not primarily one of pure openness. It's actually a coercive endeavor in which you have
00:46:05.560 to teach students something to the exclusion of other things. You give them an exam because there are
00:46:11.640 right answers and wrong answers. And when a student gives the right answer, you reward them with a good
00:46:16.000 grade. When they get the wrong answer, you punish them with a bad grade or maybe detention or suspension
00:46:20.760 or staying back a year. So it's not in its system, it's not a roiling free marketplace of ideas.
00:46:28.160 But furthermore, if the educators are going to promote things that are indefensible, that are
00:46:35.320 contrary to a flourishing society with the healthy exchange of ideas, contrary to education, contrary to
00:46:42.540 education means being brought up well, being morally formed, knowing certain facts that are true.
00:46:48.900 If the Chicago teachers are going to actively undermine that, they need to be fired.
00:46:56.400 If the Chicago Teacher Union is going to actively encourage terrorist violence that is explicitly
00:47:03.920 determined to undermine the American political order, the Chicago Teacher Union needs to be disbanded,
00:47:11.640 needs to be severely punished by the civil society and by the government. This would be a prime example
00:47:18.660 because no one is being served by their continued existence as an organization, least of all the
00:47:24.380 students. And their continued existence as an organization and continued power over education
00:47:30.620 is making the problem much worse. These people are convincing your kids, if you live in Chicago,
00:47:36.500 that it's good to murder cops, that communism is good, and that we should overthrow the government
00:47:42.400 of the United States. You don't want that. That's bad.
00:47:45.560 We have not only a right, but an obligation to get rid of that. That is actually the most direct
00:47:52.480 way that people in Chicago can defend and expand the healthy marketplace of ideas within the American
00:47:56.600 system. Got to get rid of that. Got to have the courage to say that powerful word, no. Okay,
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