The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 183 - We’re Winning On Every Front


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The Supreme Lord of the Multiverse, Andrew Klavan, is up on Tuesday, July 17th, answering your questions. Subscribe to get your questions answered by the Supreme Lord on the show, moderated by the beautiful and dauntless Elisha Krause.


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00:00:37.800 The executive, the legislature, the judiciary, foreign policy, government policy, civil rights, even battles of religion.
00:00:44.440 We're winning on every single front.
00:00:46.560 This has been a banner week, and we have been winning on everything.
00:00:49.960 We will analyze why and how.
00:00:52.060 Then the mailbag, a lot to get to.
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00:01:44.380 Banner week, folks.
00:01:45.540 We are bathing in leftist tears all week on every single front.
00:01:48.800 We'll explain why before we get to that.
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00:04:00.700 What a week.
00:04:01.780 What a banner week for winning on every single front.
00:04:04.480 And you've got to balance it all.
00:04:05.500 I know some cultural conservatives were worried.
00:04:08.220 They're still a little bit worried about Judge Kavanaugh.
00:04:10.840 Is Judge Kavanaugh a sufficiently originalist?
00:04:13.200 Sufficiently pro-life?
00:04:15.780 Meaning that he'll interpret the Constitution as it actually is written, which does not have a right to abortion.
00:04:21.480 Is he sufficiently rock-ribbed?
00:04:23.160 You know, these are some worries.
00:04:24.580 I will, I think, lay out the case that on every single front this week, we are winning, even on Judge Kavanaugh.
00:04:30.620 To begin, the greatest video, the greatest moment in this presidency all week.
00:04:37.600 I know every week there seems to be a new one, but this is so beautiful.
00:04:41.140 Donald Trump talking to a bunch of freeloading Europeans, as well as the German nation, the worst nation in the history of the world, which has destroyed civilization on multiple occasions.
00:04:50.500 Here is Donald Trump talking to our NATO, our freeloading NATO allies.
00:04:55.480 It's never been allowed to have happened, but Germany is totally controlled by Russia, because they will be getting from 60 to 70 percent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline.
00:05:06.960 And you tell me if that's appropriate, because I think it's not.
00:05:10.040 And I think it's a very bad thing for NATO, and I don't think it should have happened.
00:05:13.700 And I think we have to talk to Germany about it.
00:05:16.440 On top of that, Germany is just paying a little bit over 1 percent, whereas the United States, in actual numbers, is paying 4.2 percent of a much larger GDP.
00:05:27.380 So I think that's inappropriate also.
00:05:29.700 You know, we're protecting Germany.
00:05:31.100 We're protecting France.
00:05:32.120 We're protecting everybody.
00:05:34.080 And yet we're paying a lot of money to protect.
00:05:36.400 Now, this has been going on for decades.
00:05:38.360 This has been brought up by other presidents, but other presidents never did anything about it, because I don't think they understood it, or they just didn't want to get involved.
00:05:47.360 But I have to bring it up, because I think it's very unfair to our country.
00:05:50.640 It's very unfair to our taxpayers.
00:05:52.960 And I think that these countries have to step it up, not over a 10-year period.
00:05:56.580 They have to step it up immediately.
00:05:58.200 Germany is a rich country.
00:05:59.920 They talk about they're going to increase it a tiny bit by 2030.
00:06:04.180 Well, they could increase it immediately tomorrow and have no problem.
00:06:09.960 I don't think it's fair to the United States.
00:06:11.800 So we're going to have to do something, because we're not going to put up with it.
00:06:15.560 We can't put up with it.
00:06:16.560 And it's inappropriate.
00:06:19.180 Oh, we've got to get another batch just for those, like, Bavarian tears or those Prussian tears or something.
00:06:26.120 Very good.
00:06:27.620 Only Donald Trump could do this.
00:06:29.940 Only President Trump could do this.
00:06:31.960 And, you know, I'm a little harsh on Germany.
00:06:34.180 I'm probably, you know, 1.5% kidding.
00:06:37.100 I'm 98.5% serious.
00:06:40.000 But, you know, a little bit tongue-in-cheek.
00:06:41.480 But he's so right on this point.
00:06:43.460 Only President Trump could do this.
00:06:45.140 Every other president goes up.
00:06:46.820 He says, you know, NATO, they're supposed to be paying more, just 2% of GDP.
00:06:50.160 They're not even doing that, though.
00:06:51.680 We're paying 4% of GDP.
00:06:53.420 You know, maybe they should, could they, because we're protecting them, and they're undercutting us at every turn.
00:06:58.720 And then also they're importing oil from Russia.
00:07:01.680 So they're buying oil from Russia.
00:07:02.860 We are paying to protect Europe from Russia.
00:07:07.200 Europe is using all of that money to pay Russia.
00:07:10.020 This doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
00:07:11.940 Past presidents can't do that because they don't want to rock the boat.
00:07:14.420 This is an emperor-has-no-clothes situation.
00:07:17.180 This is a situation where all of the presidents come in, and they say, well, this is NATO.
00:07:22.060 NATO's been around for decades and decades and decades, and, you know, that's just the way it works.
00:07:25.700 And they don't pay.
00:07:26.460 They're not fulfilling their commitments.
00:07:28.000 But, you know, well, we should pay.
00:07:29.620 This is how it's always been.
00:07:31.020 Oh, they're giving out money to Russia.
00:07:32.840 Well, you know, that's not good.
00:07:34.520 But that's how it's always been.
00:07:35.340 We can't change.
00:07:36.160 Can't touch NATO.
00:07:37.080 NATO's been, by the way, the Cold War's been over for, what, 30 years now?
00:07:40.980 But, oh, no, we can't touch NATO, this relic of the Cold War.
00:07:44.060 No, no, no.
00:07:44.600 We can't do that.
00:07:45.700 And President Trump comes in.
00:07:46.940 He looks at it.
00:07:47.480 He says, hold on.
00:07:48.640 I'm sorry.
00:07:49.280 Maybe I'm a little thick.
00:07:50.840 Maybe I'm a little stupid because I haven't been in Washington for my entire life.
00:07:54.980 But the way it looks to me is that we're paying more money than we're supposed to be paying to you.
00:08:00.400 And you're not paying the amount of money you're supposed to be paying.
00:08:02.860 And then you're giving all that money to the people we're supposed to be protecting you from.
00:08:06.900 Tell me how that makes sense.
00:08:08.220 And all of the smart people, all of the educated people, all of the expert people, they say, oh, I can't.
00:08:13.700 But what a stupid question.
00:08:14.880 Why would he ask that question?
00:08:15.780 Oh, blah, blah, blah.
00:08:16.620 And then you say, well, what's the answer?
00:08:18.300 Well, because that's the way it is.
00:08:20.880 Well, the way it is isn't going to work, is it?
00:08:22.660 But President Trump is so, it's so lovely.
00:08:25.920 It's so refreshing to have somebody who's from outside the political process, who's from outside Washington,
00:08:31.660 who's from outside the decades and decades and decades of minor little changes, small little things adding up to this big nonsensical situation.
00:08:40.380 He comes in and he says, doesn't make any sense.
00:08:42.340 I got some fresh set of eyes.
00:08:43.440 It doesn't make any sense.
00:08:45.000 A beautiful thing.
00:08:45.700 The left says Donald Trump is treating our allies like our enemies and our enemies like our allies.
00:08:51.480 That's not true at all.
00:08:52.360 President Trump is just looking and he's saying, you know, it's not a friendship if you're being taken advantage of.
00:08:57.160 If one friend is taking advantage of another so-called friend, that isn't a friendship, right?
00:09:02.080 You've got to be on even footing and you can't, you know, play soft with these people forever.
00:09:08.440 World War II ended 70 years ago.
00:09:10.500 You know, we don't need to keep walking around the situation.
00:09:15.440 So President Trump comes in.
00:09:16.720 I think it's a beautiful thing.
00:09:17.760 It's not like, by the way, they're trying to pretend that President Trump is being really nice to Russia.
00:09:22.480 The example he's using here is that Europe should stop buying oil from Russia.
00:09:27.400 That's actually what the ask is, isn't it?
00:09:29.200 It's saying stop buying oil from Russia, start buying oil from, not start spending money on NATO.
00:09:35.680 Start spending money on your own defense.
00:09:37.200 And this is possible, by the way.
00:09:38.600 Poland doesn't buy oil from Russia, do they?
00:09:40.860 There are plenty of places.
00:09:41.840 You know, it's certainly possible not to buy oil from Russia.
00:09:44.200 He's saying this situation doesn't make sense.
00:09:45.980 That's a beautiful thing.
00:09:46.720 And the arguments against it don't make a whole lot of sense either.
00:09:49.420 So on foreign affairs, we really are winning.
00:09:51.420 Just look around the world.
00:09:52.320 ISIS is defeated militarily.
00:09:54.300 North Korea has come to the table.
00:09:56.140 Now, who knows?
00:09:56.700 It looks like they're backing out of that pretend deal.
00:09:58.760 Okay, nothing really ventured.
00:10:00.700 Nothing really gained.
00:10:01.560 That's fine.
00:10:02.160 We still have the bigger button that actually works and offers a credible threat of violence in North Korea.
00:10:08.260 The Middle East is doing far better.
00:10:09.760 We've finally come back to our ally Israel, whom Barack Obama gave the one-finger salute to for eight years.
00:10:15.560 And we've fulfilled an American promise that's gone on for decades to move the embassy to Jerusalem.
00:10:20.060 That's pretty good.
00:10:21.260 We're allowing Russia to help us in the Middle East in so much as they can help us,
00:10:25.780 but without any illusions that we're somehow allies now and we have the identical strategic interests.
00:10:32.220 We don't.
00:10:32.760 We're finally confronting China.
00:10:34.160 China's been stealing our IP for years, making aggressive military action in the South China Sea.
00:10:39.180 The presidents have been whining about it, but they haven't done anything.
00:10:41.700 President Trump is finally forcing them to the table to negotiate on trade.
00:10:44.940 These are huge wins on foreign policy.
00:10:47.300 Foreign policy, I don't know, could be going really any better than it is right now.
00:10:51.040 How about on domestic policy?
00:10:53.400 The federal bureaucracy has been growing and sprawling and undercutting the democratic process for years and years and years.
00:11:01.520 And this is not some new Trump talking point.
00:11:04.420 Conservatives have been talking about this for years.
00:11:05.880 Of course, Antonin Scalia said before he died that the administrative state is the greatest threat to liberty in the United States.
00:11:11.200 So are we taking them on?
00:11:12.380 Here we go.
00:11:13.220 We've got Republican Trey Gowdy taking on a bureaucrat extraordinaire trying to undercut a democratic election in 2016.
00:11:21.360 Peter Strzok.
00:11:22.140 Here is the committee hearing.
00:11:23.720 You got another text from your colleague, Lisa Page.
00:11:28.200 Trump's not ever going to become president, right?
00:11:32.020 Right?
00:11:32.700 And you replied, no.
00:11:34.700 No, he's not.
00:11:35.700 We'll stop it.
00:11:37.500 By the time you promised to stop him from becoming president on August the 8th, how many interviews had you conducted?
00:11:46.380 Mr. Gowdy, so two answers to that.
00:11:48.980 One, with regard to how many interviews had or had not been conducted, I have been directed by counsel for the FBI not to answer that question.
00:11:57.120 Second, sir, I think it's important to take those texts in the context of how they were written and what they meant.
00:12:02.520 And someone may ask you that question, Agent Strzok, but I didn't.
00:12:07.300 I ask you how many people you interviewed before you wrote it.
00:12:10.440 If you want to get into context, let one of my other colleagues do that with you.
00:12:14.820 Here's what I want to know.
00:12:17.320 Who's the he and he's not?
00:12:20.780 He is then-candidate Trump.
00:12:22.740 So when you said, no, Donald Trump's not, in connection with the question, going to become president, what's the it?
00:12:33.760 We'll stop it.
00:12:36.080 Chairman Gowdy, that text needs to be taken in the context of which you're going to be.
00:12:39.360 I'm asking, look, if you want to have a debate over a two-letter word, we're going to have to do that some other time.
00:12:46.260 What and who did you mean by it?
00:12:50.620 Mr. Gowdy, as I've stated, that text was written late at night in shorthand.
00:12:55.160 I don't care when it was written.
00:12:56.860 I don't care whether it was longhand, cursive.
00:12:59.600 I don't care about any of that.
00:13:00.860 I want to know what it meant, Agent Strzok.
00:13:03.760 It would be his candidacy for the presidency in my sense that the American population-
00:13:09.760 The important thing here is not that we get answers from Strzok.
00:13:13.760 We're not going to get answers from Strzok.
00:13:15.060 He's going to say, I need to talk to counsel.
00:13:16.460 I need to talk to them.
00:13:17.260 I don't know.
00:13:17.820 I'm not, you know.
00:13:18.900 But at least we're exposing them.
00:13:21.760 This is something that we're finally able to do because of technology and because of the new political climate.
00:13:29.020 You know, the left was trying to use the mainstream media, the federal bureaucracy, whatever, any tool at their disposal, to overturn a presidential election.
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00:16:01.380 Back to how the left is subverting a presidential election.
00:16:03.980 They did this to Richard Nixon, the impeachment of Richard Nixon.
00:16:06.420 Nixon won in a landslide.
00:16:07.920 They used every tool at their disposal, the press and the bureaucracy, the deep state,
00:16:12.140 to overturn that election.
00:16:13.240 They've been trying to do it again.
00:16:14.580 So what they do is they have this facade of a scandal.
00:16:17.580 This, the Russia collusion.
00:16:19.280 It's just a facade of a scandal.
00:16:20.860 Explain to me how Trump colluded with Russia.
00:16:24.240 Just, I'll give you, just have a minute.
00:16:25.680 Just explain to yourself.
00:16:26.820 Think for a second.
00:16:27.480 How did Trump collude with Russia?
00:16:28.760 We've been talking about this for two years now.
00:16:31.200 What do I know?
00:16:32.340 How did Trump collude with Russia?
00:16:33.620 You probably can't explain how, right?
00:16:36.940 Because there's no evidence.
00:16:38.040 It's just the facade of a scandal.
00:16:40.400 And what this does, what these hearings do, when you get Peter Strzok, one of the FBI agents
00:16:45.360 investigating this, who clearly had an anti-Trump bias, who was saying, I'm going to use the
00:16:48.860 power of the state to stop Trump from becoming president.
00:16:51.960 When you bring them up there, you cut through that facade and you expose the American people
00:16:56.040 to directly what the so-called scandal is.
00:17:00.040 They see it clearly.
00:17:01.240 This is the great change in 2016, 2017.
00:17:05.060 You've got a president who is skipping the mainstream media, talking directly to the
00:17:08.340 American people, largely via Twitter.
00:17:10.420 You've got, you can cut through that with congressional testimony.
00:17:13.320 You can cut through that with live streaming.
00:17:15.600 You can cut through that with tweeting.
00:17:16.900 You can just cut through the facade and see it for what it really is.
00:17:21.220 This is all about optics.
00:17:22.540 And the optics look really bad for Peter Strzok here.
00:17:25.080 Because he goes, I mean, you can watch the testimony.
00:17:26.840 I wish we had the clip of him stammering like an idiot, but he looks arrogant.
00:17:30.980 He looks guilty.
00:17:32.540 He looks like he's hiding something.
00:17:33.800 He obviously is hiding things because he won't answer very direct questions that are
00:17:38.260 not, that there is no reason that he shouldn't answer them other than he's going to make himself
00:17:42.140 look like more of a dirtbag than he already does.
00:17:44.260 So you get to see that directly.
00:17:46.040 This is a beautiful thing.
00:17:47.200 It's the same thing, by the way, with the Stormy Daniels arrest.
00:17:50.160 You might have seen that Stormy Daniels was arrested in a strip club in Ohio for violating
00:17:54.340 state law.
00:17:54.960 Well, that's fine.
00:17:56.440 She's, you know, she's a stripper.
00:17:58.540 This wouldn't be the first time, you know, somebody who works primarily in vice gets
00:18:03.000 arrested for something like that.
00:18:04.920 But what is it about?
00:18:05.840 It's all about the optics.
00:18:07.560 Do I really blame Stormy Daniels for the crime of rubbing up on gentlemen at a strip club?
00:18:13.860 No, that's sort of, that's what she does, right?
00:18:16.420 That's her job.
00:18:17.260 But we get to see it now.
00:18:18.760 We actually see what's happening.
00:18:20.120 You know, what the left wants to paint is that Stormy Daniels is this heroic feminist
00:18:25.180 victim of Donald Trump's aggressiveness.
00:18:28.780 No, she's a professional stripper who gets paid to have sex on camera.
00:18:33.600 That's what she is.
00:18:34.560 Now, that doesn't mean, you know, that she can't be victimized.
00:18:37.920 But she isn't victimized here, that's for sure.
00:18:39.840 And you're just seeing it.
00:18:40.960 If you were just to watch the mainstream media, you say, oh, Stormy Daniels, this heroine,
00:18:45.160 Joan of Arc, you know.
00:18:46.440 But then you see, no, she gets arrested for rubbing her body all over men in a strip club.
00:18:52.280 That's her real, that's the reality of her life.
00:18:54.120 She's still working to get paid to have sex on camera.
00:18:56.600 She's still working as a stripper off camera, perhaps.
00:19:00.000 She's still doing that.
00:19:02.120 That's the reality of it.
00:19:03.540 She's being paid to degrade herself.
00:19:06.320 And when you look at what all of these scandals are, it does seem like they're people who are
00:19:11.900 getting paid to degrade themselves.
00:19:13.560 You know, Michael Avenatti is the real prostitute in this situation because he's glommed onto these
00:19:18.320 fake scandals and these facades of scandals to get himself on CNN 27 hours a day.
00:19:23.660 I mean, you know, even the left is finally knocking him for it.
00:19:26.460 They're saying, Michael Avenatti is taking down Trump one CNN hit at a time.
00:19:31.280 You know, this guy really seems to like the camera.
00:19:34.220 The most dangerous place in the country is between Michael Avenatti and a TV camera.
00:19:37.880 But you're finally seeing it.
00:19:39.140 And that's a very important thing because the more that we can show the American people
00:19:42.900 the reality of this, the less likely they are to buy the left's ridiculous narrative.
00:19:48.460 If all the American people are exposed to is the narrative, they might be duped by it.
00:19:52.740 But luckily, the reality is on our side.
00:19:55.440 So all we have to do is just shine a light and expose it.
00:19:58.220 You saw yesterday, I played that clip of CNN.
00:20:00.840 CNN was talking to an illegal alien woman, you know, who said her child was gone,
00:20:05.240 who was separated from her.
00:20:06.740 And they asked her how the kid's doing.
00:20:08.960 And the woman said,
00:20:10.300 He says he's doing very well.
00:20:13.740 And CNN translated it and said,
00:20:15.880 Oh, it's everything's terrible and Trump's a monster and they're crying and it's awful.
00:20:19.220 But when you see the reality, the reality is on our side.
00:20:22.820 When you see the fake narrative, then people get confused.
00:20:25.780 How about on the economy?
00:20:26.560 So that's just on the bureaucracy part of it.
00:20:30.120 On the economy, the economy is doing so, so well.
00:20:32.200 People ask me, they say, you know, the lefties will try to say,
00:20:35.380 Well, it's really secretly the economy is doing very poorly.
00:20:38.320 But even though it seems like it's doing great,
00:20:40.180 the economy has basically never been better.
00:20:42.580 Unemployment is at an 18-year low.
00:20:44.720 There is a labor shortage right now.
00:20:46.680 Now, that's good for two reasons.
00:20:48.880 One, there are more jobs to fill than people to fill them.
00:20:51.860 And two, it means wages are going to go up.
00:20:53.560 Wages have stagnated for a long time at this point.
00:20:55.960 Over a decade, largely, they've stagnated in the middle class.
00:20:59.420 And now wages are going up because there's a labor shortage.
00:21:01.660 That's wonderful.
00:21:03.320 Jobless claims were at a 44-year low, just about.
00:21:06.280 All excellent news on the economy.
00:21:07.980 This also ties into the immigration issue.
00:21:09.960 Because when you flood the country with immigrants and illegal aliens,
00:21:13.460 wages tend to go down.
00:21:14.440 Especially in certain sectors, they can really destroy the labor market.
00:21:18.480 So, in that respect, Donald Trump is winning both on the main issue of his presidency
00:21:22.800 and on the economy, which is what people care about because they see it so viscerally.
00:21:27.220 It affects their pocketbooks.
00:21:28.960 On civil rights, even.
00:21:31.100 This is one that nobody on the left is reporting on.
00:21:33.200 But even this week, we are winning tremendously.
00:21:36.140 The DOJ under President Trump is reopening the case of the murder of Emmett Till.
00:21:41.060 Of Emmett Till.
00:21:41.660 Well, this murder happened in 1955.
00:21:44.040 It's when a bunch of murderers killed 14-year-old Emmett Till.
00:21:50.700 J.W. Milam and his half-brother Robert Bryant.
00:21:53.540 They killed him for allegedly flirting with a white woman.
00:21:56.880 There's no evidence, really, that he flirted with a white woman.
00:21:59.240 But they killed him for that.
00:22:00.480 Emmett Till came into town from Chicago.
00:22:02.600 And he was killed, brutally murdered, and, you know, ripped apart.
00:22:07.420 And his mother actually demanded an open casket funeral to show the world how gory and awful this was.
00:22:12.820 And, by the way, after they were acquitted, Milam was acquitted within an hour, I think.
00:22:17.360 They said the all-white jury would have acquitted him sooner, except they took a break to have a soda.
00:22:21.480 I mean, this was no trial at all.
00:22:22.980 A total, total show.
00:22:24.520 And Milam confessed.
00:22:25.520 This is what he said, the murder of Emmett Till in 1956.
00:22:28.700 A year later, he said, what else could we do?
00:22:31.360 He was hopeless.
00:22:32.360 I'm no bully.
00:22:33.100 I never heard a, I'll use the word ninja.
00:22:35.920 Let's just say ninja.
00:22:37.140 I never heard a ninja in my life.
00:22:39.280 I like N-words in their place.
00:22:41.520 I know how to work them.
00:22:42.720 But I just decided it was time a few people got put on notice.
00:22:46.100 As long as I can live and do anything about it, N-words are going to stay in their place.
00:22:51.300 N-words ain't going to vote where I live.
00:22:53.080 If they did, they'd control the government.
00:22:54.340 They ain't going to go to school with my kids.
00:22:56.200 And when an N-word gets close to mentioning sex with a white woman, he's tired of living.
00:23:00.940 I'm likely to kill him.
00:23:02.280 Me and my folks fought for this country.
00:23:03.900 We got some rights.
00:23:04.580 I stood there in that shed and listened to that N-word throw that poison at me.
00:23:08.180 And I just made up my mind.
00:23:09.600 Chicago boy, I said, I'm tired of them.
00:23:11.340 I'm sending your kind down here to stir up trouble.
00:23:13.700 Damn you.
00:23:14.340 I'm going to make an example of you just so everybody can know how me and my folks stand.
00:23:18.760 And then he viciously killed him and tied his body to a weight and drowned him, killed him in a river.
00:23:25.780 That was the admission.
00:23:27.980 Now, the DOJ has new information.
00:23:31.560 They've said they haven't released any information on what that information is.
00:23:34.280 But they have reopened the case under President Trump.
00:23:36.560 And that is a very good thing.
00:23:38.760 So it's ironic that President Trump is being called a racist based on nothing, by the way.
00:23:44.060 Nobody called him a racist before he ran for office as a republic.
00:23:47.120 And now all of a sudden he's a big racist.
00:23:48.880 They're calling him a racist.
00:23:49.960 This guy is focused pretty clearly on civil rights.
00:23:53.240 The example of this is not too long ago, President Trump issued a pardon for Jack Johnson.
00:23:58.820 Jack Johnson, probably, what is it now, almost 100 years later, almost a century later,
00:24:04.280 Jack Johnson was the first black heavyweight champion boxer.
00:24:07.720 I'm not talking about the pop guitarist that only suburban white girls like Jack Johnson.
00:24:13.640 I'm talking about the heavyweight boxer, the first black heavyweight champ boxer.
00:24:18.260 So Jack Johnson was serving a 10-month stint at Leavenworth in 1921.
00:24:23.460 And his crime basically was traveling with a white woman.
00:24:26.840 What he was convicted on was the Mann Act for bringing a prostitute across state lines.
00:24:32.220 The Mann Act was to stop human trafficking.
00:24:34.400 But Jack Johnson, and Jack Johnson had a checkered past with women.
00:24:37.100 I'm not saying this guy was a saint, you know.
00:24:38.920 But it was a consensual relationship he was in with this woman.
00:24:41.820 And he was basically arrested for the racial crime of traveling with a white woman.
00:24:47.460 And Woodrow Wilson, of course, wouldn't grant him the pardon.
00:24:50.860 And both President Bush and President Obama were asked to pardon Jack Johnson posthumously.
00:24:58.240 And they said, no, it's not.
00:24:59.820 No, we're not going to do it.
00:25:01.040 What's the point?
00:25:02.020 It's a little dicey because he had a checkered past himself.
00:25:05.860 And we don't want to do it.
00:25:07.340 President Trump heard about this.
00:25:08.560 And he said, yeah, let's do it.
00:25:09.500 Of course, that's justice.
00:25:10.760 It was injustice that he got arrested.
00:25:12.400 It was obviously a racial thing.
00:25:14.120 And we're going to pardon him.
00:25:15.280 This is only the third posthumous pardon by any U.S. president.
00:25:18.840 And President Trump did it.
00:25:20.080 Why is this apparently strong focus on civil rights?
00:25:23.600 That's a pretty good thing.
00:25:25.020 I've got to say goodbye to Facebook in a second.
00:25:26.560 But I do want to clear up some questions on the court.
00:25:29.720 Because this is the real area that we're winning.
00:25:31.660 And I think there's a little misinformation out there.
00:25:34.140 A lot of conservatives were very excited about Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
00:25:40.340 Because she seemed so rock-ribbed.
00:25:41.640 Worked for Scalia.
00:25:42.500 Very pro-life.
00:25:43.360 But more importantly, would be a textualist.
00:25:45.940 And therefore, the pro-life cause probably would win.
00:25:48.680 And this guy, you know, he doesn't seem quite as rock-ribbed to some people.
00:25:52.760 That said, he's pretty good.
00:25:56.080 First of all, they have nothing on this guy.
00:25:59.100 The Washington Post found the big scandal on him.
00:26:01.580 The scandal is, Supreme Court nominee piled up credit card debt by purchasing nationals tickets.
00:26:08.240 And by the way, he paid off the credit card debt.
00:26:10.160 So basically, the headline is, Brett Kavanaugh used credit cards ever and went to America's favorite pastime.
00:26:17.760 He also likes Brett Kavanaugh piled up credit card debt eating apple pie.
00:26:22.420 Okay, sure.
00:26:23.660 You know, and they said he doesn't have a lot.
00:26:25.580 He's not rich.
00:26:26.400 He only has assets between $15,000 and $60,000.
00:26:30.060 That is a...
00:26:31.000 Brett Kavanaugh has spent his career in the public sector as a judge.
00:26:34.660 If he were rich, that would throw up red flags, wouldn't it?
00:26:37.920 But what they're saying is breaking.
00:26:40.080 Brett Kavanaugh, apparently too upright a citizen.
00:26:43.540 Too dignified a judge to make a lot of money on the side.
00:26:47.660 This is a very good thing.
00:26:48.520 So everything they try to throw at him, it just doesn't work at all.
00:26:50.960 And he's got a ton of pro-life credibility.
00:26:53.400 That's the other thing.
00:26:54.280 People are trying to say he won't overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:26:57.200 Who knows how he'll rule?
00:26:58.860 Who knows if a court with Kavanaugh on it will overturn Roe v. Wade?
00:27:01.760 It certainly seems it will whittle away at it.
00:27:04.380 But he's got a lot of pro-life credit.
00:27:05.820 He did say...
00:27:06.740 He did ruling Garza v. Hargan that the...
00:27:10.080 As the ACLU tried to argue, that an illegal alien has some right to an abortion on demand.
00:27:16.560 He said that was ridiculous and that was right.
00:27:18.520 He ruled for the Priests for Life in Priests for Life v. HHS on the question of religious liberty
00:27:24.300 and whether they have to provide abortifacient drugs, abortion drugs, to Chuck Schumer in 2006.
00:27:30.220 He did say that Roe v. Wade is binding precedent.
00:27:34.660 But a lot of pro-lifers are saying, this is scary.
00:27:37.660 This is the big red flag.
00:27:38.660 They said it's binding precedent.
00:27:40.160 That's not a big deal.
00:27:41.440 Only because he prefaced it.
00:27:42.700 He said, if confirmed to the D.C. Circuit.
00:27:45.680 If confirmed...
00:27:46.200 Sure, as a lower court judge, he can't overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:27:49.200 Of course not.
00:27:50.220 But the language...
00:27:51.500 You have to watch the precise language here.
00:27:53.600 Judges use very precise language.
00:27:55.140 That's like their job, you know.
00:27:56.640 He also...
00:27:57.500 They said the same thing about Gorsuch.
00:27:58.700 Gorsuch said similar things, and nobody is saying that he's a weakling on abortion or
00:28:03.120 on Roe v. Wade.
00:28:04.200 And then during an AEI speech, American Enterprise Institute, Judge Kavanaugh said he alluded to
00:28:10.260 the general tide of freewheeling judicial creation of unenumerated rights that were not rooted
00:28:15.780 in the nation's history and tradition.
00:28:17.620 He's talking about Roe v. Wade.
00:28:19.780 And that's pretty strong language.
00:28:21.320 The judicial creation of rights that were not rooted in the nation's history and tradition.
00:28:27.040 Taking a pretty hard swing.
00:28:28.500 And he's talking about it.
00:28:29.520 In that, if you read the speech carefully, he starts talking about it right after he talks
00:28:32.680 about slavery as this great flaw, this great oversight, this great American crime.
00:28:38.600 And I think that juxtaposition is important because the argument against abortion is the argument
00:28:44.680 against slavery.
00:28:45.340 You don't have a right to do something to another person, to kill another person, to steal their
00:28:49.360 liberty, to take their life.
00:28:51.180 The argument for overturning Roe v. Wade is a constitutional one.
00:28:55.040 The argument for pro-life is the same argument for abolition.
00:28:58.460 It's the same one.
00:28:59.340 You don't have a right to oppress people, tyrannize people, kill them, take their labor.
00:29:04.800 And the fact that he's juxtaposing those two things is a very good sign.
00:29:08.360 And then finally, all right, I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.
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00:30:10.400 A lot more of the show to go.
00:30:11.280 We're winning the religious war, too.
00:30:23.320 This is the final, this is kind of the foundational part of how we're winning so hard this week.
00:30:28.240 You've seen a lot of religious conversations come up.
00:30:30.460 It was spurred by this Supreme Court nomination fight because you had the fight over Roe v. Wade.
00:30:36.720 You had the fight over people who are Catholic who are being nominated for this court.
00:30:40.260 You know, they're members of cults, according to the left.
00:30:43.000 So the New York Times ran this piece today called When Politicians Determine Your Religious Beliefs.
00:30:49.260 And there's this religious divide in America.
00:30:52.180 And what they're trying to say, well, here's what they write.
00:30:55.240 Quote, at first glance, President Trump's nomination of Judge Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court would seem a perfect reminder of why so many religious white Americans vote Republican to promote conservative moral values, religious values, their values.
00:31:07.300 The values that, the story goes, devout white Protestants and Catholics want to see in Washington.
00:31:14.680 Before we go on, what does white have anything to do with it?
00:31:19.080 And really, what does religion have anything to do with it?
00:31:21.240 I don't know if the New York Times is being obtuse here or if they're just that stupid.
00:31:26.240 It's one of the two.
00:31:27.080 They're either being really obtuse or they're just being stupid.
00:31:30.040 The fight is over constitutionality.
00:31:32.400 The fight is over whether there's a fake right to abortion in the Constitution.
00:31:36.500 There's obviously no right to abortion in the Constitution.
00:31:38.860 That's what the fight is about.
00:31:40.000 Are we going to interpret the Constitution by what it says?
00:31:42.220 Or are we going to interpret it by what lefties fantasize it could say?
00:31:47.180 Are we going to have a rule of law?
00:31:48.260 Are we going to have a rule of nine robed dictators in the country, leftist dictators?
00:31:51.740 That's what it's about.
00:31:52.700 It's nothing about religion, really.
00:31:54.780 And it's certainly nothing about being white.
00:31:56.900 But the New York Times has to throw that in there because either they don't have any idea what they're talking about or they're being really cynically obtuse.
00:32:04.340 The piece goes on, though, because there are some interesting parts of it.
00:32:06.780 Quote, it's not just that our religious beliefs affect our politics.
00:32:09.940 It's that our politics affect our religious choices.
00:32:12.360 We don't just take cues about politics from our pastors and priests.
00:32:15.240 We take cues about religion from our politicians.
00:32:17.900 Analyzing these data, I find that 20-something Democrats and Republicans were equally secular.
00:32:22.760 You know, when they're young, teenagers, 20-somethings, they're equally secular.
00:32:25.240 Most had pulled away from religion after high school, and Democrats and Republicans did so at similar rates.
00:32:30.600 But nine years later, Republicans had become much more likely to attend church than their Democrat counterparts.
00:32:36.060 In contrast, even those who bucked the secular trend and remained religious in their 20s were no more likely than less religious members of their cohort to join the Republican ranks in their 30s.
00:32:47.700 Okay, why is that?
00:32:49.480 Because I actually do sort of grant them that premise, that Republicans and Democrats fall away from religion largely in their teens and early 20s.
00:32:56.460 They come back to it, and Republicans come back to it more easily and more quickly.
00:33:00.600 Why?
00:33:00.860 Well, for one, New York Times, perhaps this hasn't occurred to you, that in your teens and 20s, what are you doing?
00:33:07.760 You're exploring questions.
00:33:09.400 You're finally fully rational or approaching full rationality.
00:33:13.280 You're finally a little bit educated, at least, and you start questioning the world around you.
00:33:17.040 You're no longer a little child.
00:33:18.060 You're becoming an adult.
00:33:19.100 You're figuring out what you think.
00:33:20.160 Is it possible that people are analyzing religious questions and political questions at the same time?
00:33:25.360 When you were a young person, did you analyze religious and political questions at the same time?
00:33:30.100 Duh.
00:33:30.660 Of course you did.
00:33:31.340 That's what people do.
00:33:31.960 They question everything around them.
00:33:33.340 They didn't say, okay, I'm going to solve this question, the political question, then I'll have religious views.
00:33:37.060 Not at all.
00:33:37.540 They both want to deny free will and rational choice and then say that one leads to the other necessarily.
00:33:42.920 It doesn't quite work.
00:33:44.240 And why else might this be the case?
00:33:45.880 Well, there is some social proof.
00:33:47.160 If you're a lefty and you think, oh, yeah, I really like Obama, you see all these other lefties mocking religion and people that you might respect mocking religion.
00:33:56.460 You say, okay, well, I guess that's true.
00:33:57.620 I'll take a shortcut.
00:33:58.540 I won't think about the question too hard.
00:34:00.380 I'll just take this shortcut.
00:34:01.400 There's certainly that.
00:34:02.540 Maybe you're compelled by the arguments of those you associate with.
00:34:04.960 I was agnostic, bordering on atheism in my teens and early 20s.
00:34:10.460 And I would talk to people whose views I respected on politics.
00:34:14.760 And they might explain to me why I was wrong about religion.
00:34:19.540 And I might say, oh, well, if you're right about all these other things, maybe you're right about this too.
00:34:22.860 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:34:23.580 It's called humility, New York Times.
00:34:25.100 I know you know nothing about this, but it's called intellectual humility and it's called intellectual curiosity.
00:34:30.320 Nothing of which interests the New York Times.
00:34:32.780 And, of course, the final reason is that for leftist Democrats, politics supplants religion.
00:34:39.460 When Dianne Feinstein is worried that the dogma lives loudly within Catholics because the dogma supplants the leftist dogma.
00:34:46.480 It means that there's no room for the leftist modern dogma to be there.
00:34:49.400 And Democrats who have, everybody's got to serve somebody.
00:34:52.560 So if you don't serve God, you're going to serve something else and you're going to serve idols of politics, be it environmentalism, be it social justice, redistribution, Marxist ideology, whatever.
00:35:03.740 You're going to serve something.
00:35:05.340 And, unfortunately, for people on the left broadly and the Democratic Party now broadly, that's a question, that's a void that's filled by shallow politics.
00:35:16.280 Although, the way we're winning on this, too, is that among the coalition of the ascendant, to use the Democrats' phrase, blacks and Hispanic voters are more likely to agree with Republicans on questions of religion.
00:35:28.640 So it's splitting their own base.
00:35:29.760 It's splitting their own party.
00:35:30.880 Very good news.
00:35:31.580 And maybe it'll bring them to the good Lord.
00:35:33.440 All right.
00:35:33.920 We've got a little bit of time left for mailbag.
00:35:37.000 I was running late today, so let's jump right into it.
00:35:39.160 From Anthony.
00:35:40.740 Hey, Michael.
00:35:41.220 I'm a big fan.
00:35:41.980 While doing research into the case of Roe v. Wade, I was reading up on the 14th Amendment.
00:35:45.500 Which states, all persons born or naturalized in the U.S. cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process.
00:35:53.800 My question is, if the text specifically says born or naturalized, would a child in the womb meet this standard as it's not yet born?
00:36:00.460 No, I don't think it does.
00:36:01.760 I don't think the child in the womb, I don't think abortion is unconstitutional because of the 14th Amendment.
00:36:08.460 The language is clear.
00:36:09.380 Born or naturalized.
00:36:10.460 And a child in the womb, I don't think yet.
00:36:12.120 Certainly hasn't been born.
00:36:13.180 I don't think it's been naturalized.
00:36:14.340 I don't think the way that we should stop abortion is by pretending that there's a constitutional prohibition against abortion.
00:36:21.800 There's certainly no constitutional right to abortion, and there's no constitutional prohibition of it.
00:36:28.280 So Roe v. Wade should be overturned because it's blatantly unconstitutional.
00:36:31.520 And then the question should be decided by the people.
00:36:33.900 And, you know, freedom is scary because people might decide to legalize murder and something morally similar to murder in certain states.
00:36:40.740 It's in New York, California, wherever.
00:36:42.760 But I think you'll get much more of an ethic of life.
00:36:45.740 And, by the way, if this is debated freely and we don't just pretend that there's either a right to an abortion or a prohibition of abortion in the Constitution, our side is going to win.
00:36:53.900 I said this earlier in the show.
00:36:55.080 When you show reality, we win.
00:36:58.240 Because unlike leftist ideologues who say, who cares if it works in practice, does it work in theory?
00:37:03.680 I think the reality is on our side.
00:37:05.860 There's something about the conservative disposition that really favors the real, the tangible, what we see before us.
00:37:12.220 And we don't really doubt our lion eyes so much like the left does.
00:37:15.540 I think we shouldn't be afraid of freedom, and we shouldn't play the game of the left of perverting the Constitution.
00:37:20.100 I think we're going to lose that one in the long run.
00:37:22.260 Next question from Garrett.
00:37:23.340 Lord Knowles, I've heard an argument that we have no free will because we can't control our desires.
00:37:28.900 And all of our actions are based on what we want to do.
00:37:31.800 If you reply with examples of you acting against your desires, a defender of this argument would reply
00:37:37.040 that you only did that because you wanted to go against it, and therefore we are back to square one.
00:37:41.500 What are your thoughts on this?
00:37:42.460 To me, it seems like all it did was prove that we can create an ad hoc justification for any of our actions
00:37:46.500 that means it's related to desires.
00:37:49.220 I'm unsure if this is a logical fallacy.
00:37:51.080 Thanks and love the show.
00:37:52.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous.
00:37:53.020 It's what they're saying is unfalsifiable sentiment and nonsense.
00:37:57.240 Obviously, you can think of times that you act against your desires, namely all of the time.
00:38:01.220 Because there's a moral order, you know.
00:38:03.380 If I'm walking down the street and I see a cute little lass, you know,
00:38:07.860 well, I would never feel any desire at all because sweet little Elisa listens to this show.
00:38:14.240 So I've got to make clear I don't even see other women.
00:38:16.480 It's like people who say they don't see color.
00:38:17.800 I don't even see them.
00:38:18.600 I just want to say, what are you?
00:38:19.540 Hello, sir.
00:38:20.080 Nice to meet you.
00:38:20.880 I'm a lady.
00:38:21.760 Yeah, well, sir, I'm sorry.
00:38:22.880 I don't see gender.
00:38:23.440 But obviously, people stop their sort of basest animalistic desires because we have higher desires.
00:38:30.980 We have love for our wives.
00:38:32.660 Why don't we just go cheat with every single woman we see?
00:38:36.860 Because there's this base animalistic sexual attraction.
00:38:40.040 But then we have this higher love for our wives.
00:38:41.820 We have a moral order that we have to follow.
00:38:43.980 Why don't we murder people that we don't like?
00:38:46.080 Because there's a moral order that we follow.
00:38:47.780 Obviously, we butt against that.
00:38:49.880 Now, they say, well, really, your desire is to follow the moral order.
00:38:53.060 Sure.
00:38:53.420 But if what you're saying, by the way, is that we can't, we cannot, ultimately, everything is just determined by this animalistic thing, then you have no rational faculties.
00:39:03.740 You have no faculties of reason to discern between, to have judgment, to discern between a base desire and sort of higher calling or the right thing to do.
00:39:12.900 And if you have no faculties of reason, then what you are saying is not reliable because you're not accessing truth.
00:39:18.080 You're just motivated by your natural desires.
00:39:20.440 If that's true, you're an animal.
00:39:21.800 You might be an animal.
00:39:22.540 Your lefty friend might be an animal, but you're not an animal.
00:39:25.060 And if they say, yes, we have no rational faculties, then what they're saying has no meaning.
00:39:30.260 They're not actually making a rational statement.
00:39:32.420 They're just saying, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
00:39:33.980 It's like when people say there's no free will and I'd start punching them in the face.
00:39:37.320 And they say, stop doing that.
00:39:38.860 I say, I'm not doing it.
00:39:39.520 I have no free will.
00:39:40.520 It's just, this was just preordained to happen.
00:39:43.460 I'm not even sorry because it's not my fault because I have no moral culpability.
00:39:46.560 It's a ridiculous argument and they're just making unfalsifiable sentimental claims.
00:39:52.060 From Alicia, do we have time?
00:39:52.960 We have time for like a few more.
00:39:54.860 From Alicia, Mikolo.
00:39:57.240 I don't know what language that's in.
00:39:58.920 What are the chances that the Dems would come up with a new candidate?
00:40:02.920 Who would you pick for a Democrat nominee in 2020?
00:40:05.240 That's easy.
00:40:05.680 Jim Acosta.
00:40:07.060 No question.
00:40:07.880 Jim Acosta.
00:40:08.680 One, because he looks like a generic president.
00:40:10.820 You know, he's just like a sort of glib guy with silly hair, you know, perfectly coiffed
00:40:16.420 hair and everything, which looks good on some people.
00:40:19.140 But Jim Acosta would also be a great choice because, first of all, he's a mouthpiece of
00:40:22.880 Democrats.
00:40:23.820 He's, all he does is repeat Democrat talking points on like automatic.
00:40:29.920 He's just on this automatic function.
00:40:31.640 And he's already on the CNN mouthpiece of, or on the Democrat mouthpiece of CNN.
00:40:36.800 He's already on their main communications platform, so that would be pretty helpful.
00:40:40.340 And also, it would really rile up the Democrats because he's a straight white man, as far
00:40:44.000 as I know.
00:40:44.720 So they would say, oh gosh, he is the avatar of Democrats, but we have to hate straight
00:40:49.260 white guys now.
00:40:50.120 So what do we do about it?
00:40:51.560 And they would rip them apart and it'd be really good.
00:40:53.820 The simpler answer is Hillary Clinton, and it looks like she may run.
00:40:56.780 It might be more likely that she runs again, but who knows if the Democrats will successfully
00:41:01.380 reanimate that corpse in time for 2020.
00:41:03.640 Otherwise, my money's on Jim Acosta.
00:41:05.260 From Misty, hi Michael.
00:41:07.280 One quick question.
00:41:08.280 Good, I'm glad.
00:41:09.000 I'm glad this is a quick question.
00:41:10.140 What is the quick question?
00:41:11.820 What does the Bible actually have to say about purgatory and whether or not it does exist?
00:41:17.040 Spoiler alert, this is not a quick question.
00:41:18.700 This will be a long question.
00:41:20.060 As myself, I'm a Protestant and don't believe in purgatory and wanted to know a Catholic's
00:41:24.620 view on it because it doesn't give me a direct answer.
00:41:29.160 I don't have a direct answer.
00:41:30.020 Okay, thanks, James.
00:41:31.060 Sure.
00:41:32.080 Happy to do that.
00:41:33.060 This is going to be a longer one.
00:41:34.200 Long story short, purgatory is rooted in scripture and in sacred tradition, and it exists.
00:41:40.900 We see this, where are some places in scripture?
00:41:43.080 In Maccabees, you see a quote.
00:41:45.580 He turned to prayer, beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted
00:41:51.900 out.
00:41:52.600 He also took up a collection and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering.
00:41:57.360 In doing this, he acted very well and honorably.
00:42:00.860 Therefore, he made atonement for the dead that they might be delivered from their sin.
00:42:05.200 So this is a clear example in scripture of people praying for the dead, that the dead, after they
00:42:12.860 are dead, might be delivered from sins that they had committed while they were alive.
00:42:16.120 So I think that's a clear allusion to purgatory.
00:42:20.020 Now, one trouble with the Protestant Revolution is after the Protestant Revolution, various denominations
00:42:25.420 just started taking out books of the Bible.
00:42:27.160 Old Martin Luther did this.
00:42:28.420 He said, we're only going to rely on scripture, but only the scripture that I like, and all
00:42:31.580 the one that I don't like, I'm going to pull out of the Bible.
00:42:33.540 I don't know if that's sola scriptura, buddy.
00:42:36.260 We also see this in the New Testament, if you're not compelled by Maccabees.
00:42:38.980 In Matthew 12, whoever says a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever
00:42:44.380 speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age
00:42:47.920 to come.
00:42:49.740 This is an enigmatic scripture.
00:42:51.780 Sure, I'm not going to explain or try to explain why speaking against the Holy Spirit
00:42:59.780 will not be forgiven, but I will point out, it says either in this age or in the age to
00:43:03.720 come.
00:43:03.960 So our Lord is presenting a clear case that sins can be forgiven in this age or in the
00:43:09.780 age to come.
00:43:10.780 So that seems to validate what we saw in Maccabees.
00:43:14.220 I don't think Jesus misspeaks.
00:43:16.280 He doesn't really misspeak.
00:43:17.400 He speaks perfectly.
00:43:18.120 And there is a premise here that you can be forgiven for your sins in this age or in
00:43:22.280 the age to come.
00:43:23.040 Some sins.
00:43:23.880 Then in Matthew 5, it's a little clearer.
00:43:25.620 Make friends quickly with your accuser while you're going with him to court, lest your accuser
00:43:29.540 hand you over to the judge and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison.
00:43:32.780 Truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.
00:43:37.520 Now, I don't think our Lord is being clever by half here.
00:43:40.640 I don't think he's saying, and you'll never pay the last penny, ha, ha, ha.
00:43:43.160 But he is saying, you will pay for this.
00:43:44.880 You will have to, there will be some consequence for your sins, but you can get out.
00:43:50.360 I don't think he's saying you can never get out.
00:43:52.320 You can get out from certain sins in certain cases.
00:43:55.600 Tertullian, writing not long after the death of Christ in 208 AD, describes that exactly
00:44:02.180 as such and as parabolic.
00:44:03.780 But the clearest example, if I haven't convinced you so far, I hope I have, is in 1 Corinthians,
00:44:08.920 which reads, quote,
00:44:10.280 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
00:44:15.640 Now, if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,
00:44:19.720 stubble, each man's work will become manifest.
00:44:22.260 For the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test
00:44:27.000 what sort of work each one has done.
00:44:29.440 If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward.
00:44:33.980 If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but
00:44:39.020 only as through fire, only as through fire.
00:44:41.820 And the image of purgatory is as a cleansing and saving fire that purifies you, or refining
00:44:47.220 fire that purifies you for heaven.
00:44:49.040 I know that certain denominations took out books of the Bible, but I don't think they
00:44:53.760 took out Corinthians, so there's a scriptural evidence for that.
00:44:56.780 Is there, I'll take this one last quick one, then we've got to sign off.
00:44:59.500 From Noah, had an argument with two of my co-workers, and they said Obama's economy was better
00:45:03.500 than Trump's.
00:45:04.260 Six, the tax cuts.
00:45:05.180 My co-worker has said thousands of people lost their jobs.
00:45:08.580 He showed me a Vox article.
00:45:10.040 All right, stop right there.
00:45:12.080 Stop, stop.
00:45:13.020 He's going to show you, like, occupied Democrats.
00:45:14.960 Hey, he showed me this meme on the internet.
00:45:16.980 Okay.
00:45:17.560 He showed me a Vox article.
00:45:18.660 It was a list of 12 companies that were laying off employees because of the tax cuts.
00:45:23.520 Okay.
00:45:24.280 Overall, are the tax cuts good?
00:45:25.760 Why did these companies lay off so many people?
00:45:28.380 Okay, here's what you need to know.
00:45:29.740 We have a massive labor shortage in the country.
00:45:32.300 There are more jobs than people to fill them right now.
00:45:35.360 Do companies sometimes fire people?
00:45:37.640 Yeah.
00:45:38.060 Do they fire people because they've just gotten more money to spend?
00:45:41.060 No, that doesn't make any sense.
00:45:42.440 No company fires people because they now have more money through tax cuts.
00:45:46.060 No, just look at the numbers.
00:45:47.640 We have a massive labor shortage.
00:45:48.820 I think I mentioned this earlier in the show.
00:45:50.760 Jobless claims are at an almost 44-year low.
00:45:53.240 We have the lowest unemployment in 18 years.
00:45:55.940 No, it helped.
00:45:56.960 And the IMF admits, by the way, that the global economic boom is in part caused by President Trump and it's directly attributable to him.
00:46:03.580 So I think the main mistake your friend made was reading Vox.com and not treating it like everyday feminism or whatever other ridiculous lefty dishonest sites there are.
00:46:13.580 Okay, that's all the time we have.
00:46:14.720 We have other great questions to get to, but not enough time.
00:46:18.140 Have a good weekend, everybody.
00:46:19.640 I hope you can make it through and, you know, swim some laps in all those leftist tears.
00:46:24.200 And then I'll see you on Monday.
00:46:25.700 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:46:28.120 We'll be right back.
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