The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1830 - It Gets Worse, Democrats Admit They Want Cops DEAD Too

00:00:00.000 Yesterday, we read through the text messages of Jay Jones, the Democrat nominee for Attorney

00:00:04.760 General Virginia, who wished murder upon a Republican opponent and the opponent's children.

00:00:11.420 Today, we learn that he has also wished for cops to be killed so that the cops stop enforcing the

00:00:18.900 law. This is the Democrats candidate for Attorney General, by the way, the top law enforcement

00:00:22.400 official in Virginia. We'll get into all of that, but I think most illuminating of all,

00:00:28.760 we learn that Jay Jones still has not lost a single Democrat endorsement because all those 0.50

00:00:35.920 Democrats who are endorsing Jay Jones want to murder you and your kids, too. I'm Michael 0.59

00:00:40.380 Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:41.300 about him, the worse and worse he looks, Jay Jones. Jay Jones was a state legislator, and then he's running

00:02:51.820 for attorney general of Virginia. That is to say the top law enforcement official in Virginia, and one of Jay

00:02:59.180 Jones' former colleagues has come out with text messages in which Jones says he wants to murder his, the then

00:03:07.500 Republican Speaker of the House, one of his Republican opponents, and he wants to see the Republicans' 0.96

00:03:13.820 children murdered, dying in their mother's arms, and he says that the kids are little fascists, that the 0.99

00:03:20.720 Republican and his wife are breeding little fascists. So, real upstanding guy. Jay Jones then issues a 0.98

00:03:28.760 non-apology in which he doesn't use the word sorry, doesn't use the word apology, doesn't use the word

00:03:33.160 apologize. He uses the word regret generally and in the context of everyone regretting certain text

00:03:39.020 messages, and then he blames it all on Trump. So, a non-apology apology. And now we find out it wasn't

00:03:46.040 just a one-off, because I think this is the way that the Democrats have been able to firmly stand

00:03:51.260 behind Jay Jones. The Virginia Beach Democratic Committee, people like Cory Booker, the gubernatorial

00:03:59.100 candidate, Abigail Spanberger, all of these people have continued to endorse Jay Jones, which is to say

00:04:04.600 they are endorsing murdering you and your kids, too. I don't see how else you can read it. Well, the way that

00:04:10.920 they're going to get away with it goes back to Jay Jones' fake apology, when he says, look, we've all sent

00:04:15.900 texts we regret. So, what they're trying to say is, look, okay, yeah, one time, okay, one time I wished that my

00:04:22.140 political opponents would be murdered along with their children, dying in their mother's arms. Okay, like, one time, 0.83

00:04:26.900 who hasn't, right? It's like, come on, you know, you're a little tired, maybe you had a few drinks, and you wish

00:04:32.660 death upon your enemies and their children, you know? It's just like, come on, who hasn't? Let him who is without sin

00:04:38.140 cast the first stone. And I guess that's working on some people, maybe. The problem now is, this is a pattern.

00:04:48.320 This wasn't just a one-off wishing of death on Republicans and their kids. Also, it seems, Jay Jones wants cops to

00:04:56.760 die. Jay Jones running for the top law enforcement office in the state, in the Commonwealth, is 0.82

00:05:03.820 fantasizing about cops being killed, because then the cops won't enforce the law. Not only is this sick, 0.96

00:05:11.820 vile, psycho stuff that Cory Booker apparently endorses, that Abigail Spanberger apparently endorses, 0.98

00:05:17.240 that the Democratic Party endorses. Not only is it sick, vile, psycho stuff, it also runs contrary to 0.97

00:05:23.780 the job that he is seeking. The only thing you're supposed to do as attorney general is enforce the

00:05:29.840 law, advance the law, advance justice. And this guy, well, I'll just read his words. So according to the

00:05:36.300 person who first released the text messages, the person who received those text messages because

00:05:40.920 Jay Jones meant to text someone else, accidentally texted this person, and then just kept it up and

00:05:46.480 doubled down and tripled down. This person said, quote,

00:05:50.220 we had a pretty heated conversation about public policy and pain involving qualified immunity.

00:05:54.980 That is the immunity that police officers receive while doing their jobs so that they can do their

00:05:59.660 jobs. I served on the courts committee for a short period of time, a bill to remove qualified

00:06:03.800 immunity for police officers, which protects police officers from personal liability in their line of

00:06:08.220 duty and their line of work. And he believed that they should not have qualified immunity. And he was

00:06:13.700 trying to convince me to agree with that. So this guy, Jay Jones, does not want police officers to be

00:06:21.160 protected from personal liability while they're carrying out their jobs, which is to say the top

00:06:26.860 law, the would-be top law enforcement official in Virginia doesn't want there to be cops. He doesn't,

00:06:32.660 he doesn't want police officers to be able to enforce the law because without qualified immunity,

00:06:36.860 cops just simply can't enforce the law today. That's just not, that's just how it works. So they go on.

00:06:43.700 I said, no, police officers have to make a split-second decision about whether or not to

00:06:47.920 shoot a gun to protect themselves or protect others. And if they're going to have to think

00:06:50.420 about it, will this strip my whole family of everything? Are they going to be able to make

00:06:55.520 that split-second decision? And I said, I believe that people will get killed. Police officers will 0.89

00:06:59.640 get killed. And he said, Jay Jones, well, maybe if a few of them died, that they would move on, 0.97

00:07:07.500 not shooting people, not killing people. And I said, that's insane. Okay. 0.94

00:07:10.600 Okay. How is this being reported?

00:07:16.520 AG candidate wants to murder Republicans, wants to murder their kids, accuses the kids of 0.99

00:07:20.760 Republicans of being little fascists and wants cops to die so that they stop enforcing the law. 0.99

00:07:24.840 How is the AP reporting on this? You know, I bet you could, I bet you could write the headline 0.65

00:07:29.820 without my even reading it to you. Trump's GOP seizes on violent rhetoric from Virginia

00:07:38.740 Attorney General candidate as high-stakes elections loom.

00:07:43.300 They seize. We're seizing. We're having seizures. That's it. If you want the latest updates,

00:07:50.640 the really important breaking news about Republicans seizing, make sure that you

00:07:55.820 open up the Associated Press. It's not the violent rhetoric. And by the way,

00:08:01.660 violent rhetoric is pretty vague. Virginia Attorney General candidate fantasizes about

00:08:07.460 murdering Republicans and their kids and killing cops. Not the story. 0.99

00:08:15.240 Me seizing on that, that you seizing on that, that's the story. That's what's newsworthy.

00:08:20.280 That's man bites dog, wouldn't you say? So they know it's bad. They do this all the time. This is

00:08:24.220 a species of Republicans pounce, which is a tried and true genre of left-wing dishonest journalism.

00:08:31.160 At this point, I think the AP is conscious of it, probably. I say, tee-hee-hee, this will get

00:08:35.820 under Republican skin. Okay, we won't do pounce. We'll do seize. Okay, so they're seizing. They're

00:08:40.100 all seizing. But it's not going away. Even Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman,

00:08:47.460 who's a liberal host on MSNBC, married to Mika Brzezinski. Even he came out, no fan of Trump,

00:08:56.480 no fan of Republicans anymore. Even he said, Jones has to drop out.

00:09:01.840 Coming up, an attorney general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his texts about

00:09:07.000 a state lawmaker. We'll go through what the message has said.

00:09:09.600 Yeah, he should probably be forced to withdraw from the race and probably is doing a lot there. 1.00

00:09:15.140 All right, Morning Joe, we'll be right back.

00:09:18.580 Whoa, two takeaways here. One, when you've lost Morning Joe as a liberal, as a Democrat,

00:09:24.100 you're in trouble. This attorney general candidate, I think is done. Whether he loses

00:09:30.880 the support of Democrats or not, I think he's done. The only question now is, will his collapse

00:09:36.800 affect the rest of the race? Abigail Spanberger, for instance, the gubernatorial candidate, 1.00

00:09:41.740 the Democrat. Because right now, polling, I think as of yesterday, shows she's up 10 points over

00:09:46.280 Winsome Sears, who's the Republican candidate. So Abigail Spanberger at this point can probably say,

00:09:51.680 all right, I'm going to continue to endorse this AG who wants to murder Republicans and their kids

00:09:57.200 and cops because it's not affecting my poll numbers. He, I think, is done. But she's going 0.95

00:10:04.800 to continue to defend that. For anyone with even a modicum of moderation, reasonability, morality,

00:10:12.100 even a slight hint, even the simulacrum of such for political gain, they have to drop Jay Jones at

00:10:19.000 this point. So that's what Joe Scarborough's doing. He's still somewhere back there. He remembers what

00:10:24.320 it was like to be at least a moderate Republican. And he says, hold on, we can't, we can't be murdered.

00:10:29.600 He wants to murder me and my kids. We can't have that, right? Okay, I think he needs to drop out.

00:10:34.140 But then what's most telling is, what does Mika Brzezinski say? He says, well, hold on. She

00:10:41.380 interrupts him. She seems to disagree. They're going to break. So she doesn't quite get the

00:10:46.400 thought out. He says, I think he's got to drop out of the race. He goes, but I mean, they're married.

00:10:54.360 She's married to a guy who at least at one point was Republican. She's a mainstream media host for

00:11:00.460 many years. Her father was a major figure of Democrat politics in the 20th century.

00:11:06.240 And she says, I mean, I don't know. What's a little murder of Republicans between friends?

00:11:13.400 I don't know. He only wanted, how many kids does he have? He has two kids that he wants to murder?

00:11:17.180 I don't, if he had three or four kids, I mean, that'd be one thing, but

00:11:20.420 even she, even she, not one, not one Democrat endorsement missing. I know many of you called

00:11:29.700 Senator Booker's office yesterday. I don't have the phone number on my desk right now,

00:11:33.420 but if you didn't call Senator Booker's office, or if you didn't call Abigail Spanberger's office,

00:11:38.160 or if you didn't call any of the many people that the unions, the nonprofits that are endorsing

00:11:43.860 Jay Jones, I would consider, I would consider calling them asking why they support this.

00:11:50.320 The fact that this, I still think we're not so far gone as a country that Jay Jones is going to

00:11:56.080 become the AG. I think he's done, and I think he should be happily shown the exit to, from public

00:12:03.400 life, and he should go work some private job where no one has to hear from him or his disgusting 0.61

00:12:06.840 thoughts anymore. But the fact that this is not going to drag down the gubernatorial candidate

00:12:12.580 potentially, other Democrats, it shows you we're in a very different stage than we were six years ago.

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00:13:49.120 going to be smearing that. I don't mean to belabor the point on this AG candidate, but it's just,

00:13:53.320 it's after Charlie's assassination, after the BLM riots, after the attacks on ICE, after the insurrections

00:14:00.560 by the Democrat politicians in the cities, which we'll get to momentarily, after, after, after.

00:14:04.920 The fact that one of these Democrats running for a law enforcement office is saying, yeah, 0.98

00:14:08.220 I want to murder all of you. I want to murder you and your kids and cops. I don't want to murder 1.00

00:14:12.060 you. I want you, I want you to, to die in your mother's arms. The fact that he's saying this and 1.00

00:14:17.420 all the Democrats, all the Democrats, every single one of them is just, oh, great. Yep. He didn't lose

00:14:22.540 a single vote. He didn't lose a single endorsement is so horrifying. It reveals to you the fetid rotten

00:14:29.160 core of the Democrat party and the American left. And it's going to be run on TV screens and computer

00:14:36.320 screens and phone screens for months. We start with breaking news from the campaign trail.

00:14:43.360 Jay Jones is under fire tonight. Jay Jones is under fire. Jay Jones is under fire after messages he sent

00:14:48.860 in 2022 saying former Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert should be shot. I'm excited about this

00:14:55.180 ticket. It's been great to be out on the campaign trail with Jay Jones. You said Gilbert's wife could

00:15:02.060 watch her own child die in her arms so that Gilbert might reconsider his political views.

00:15:08.100 We deserve an attorney general who will stand up for the people of Virginia.

00:15:13.000 Jones said, quote, Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. 0.99

00:15:19.480 Let the rage fuel you. 0.98

00:15:21.660 Jones doubled down saying, quote, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding 0.91

00:15:27.300 little fascists? Yes. How can Virginians trust a man who said something so horrific, 0.92

00:15:33.340 so callously? Only when people feel pain personally, do they move on policy.

00:15:40.440 Good ad, really good ad from Winsome Sears. And fair is the other thing. Look,

00:15:44.620 there are plenty of attacks in political campaigns that are cheap, that are unfair,

00:15:48.520 that are October surprises. This one's fair because it's not just one little word he said,

00:15:53.320 it's repeated statements. Only when people feel the pain will that change their policy.

00:15:58.820 It's Abigail Spanberger running for governor. Let your rage fuel you. It's this guy time and again 0.57

00:16:03.480 in multiple conversations apparently. After the Democrats were found in polling to be much more

00:16:09.900 likely to endorse political violence as people who are very liberal are eight times as likely to defend

00:16:13.740 political violence as people who are very conservative. As young liberals, upwards of 30% of

00:16:18.060 them support political violence, whereas many, many fewer conservatives do. Something like 7% or

00:16:23.940 something of young conservatives. Time and time and time again, after the hideous reaction to the murder

00:16:30.700 of Charlie Kirk, which on the left varied at all levels from shrugging their shoulders to excusing it

00:16:38.980 to celebrating it. So it's a fair ad. And I think this guy, Jay Jones, has to be the face of the

00:16:46.840 Democrat Party because he is, because he is, he actually represents them. And many top Democrats,

00:16:52.320 notably Cory Booker, Abigail Spanberger, Planned Parenthood, I guess that makes sense.

00:16:58.160 Lots of unions all endure, continue to endorse him today and they need to be held to account for that.

00:17:03.620 Okay. Speaking of law enforcement, Stephen Miller just destroyed CNN with facts and logic. Here's a

00:17:10.220 set up. Stephen Miller was asked if ICE is racially profiling. Here's the answer.

00:17:21.700 Is it the case that as Pritzker frames it, you are profiling brown people that,

00:17:28.540 that this immigration crackdown is designed to go after people of color? 1.00

00:17:33.800 That is the, it's such a, oh, what a dumb question. The illegal aliens who are here 1.00

00:17:41.020 are taking jobs away from blacks. They're taking jobs away from whites. They're taking jobs away 1.00

00:17:47.540 from Latinos. They're taking their health benefits away. They're taking their school slots away. And 1.00

00:17:53.080 of course, in many cases, they're committing heinous crimes. We cannot have a system of law in this

00:17:58.760 country that privileges illegal aliens over American citizens. And that's what they're doing. 0.94

00:18:04.240 You know it. And I know. So, so that's not exactly a no, Stephen. Can, can you just unequivocally

00:18:10.300 state that the immigration policy. I said it was a dumb question. Okay. No, and it's a dumb question. 0.98

00:18:16.380 So, so no, this policy is not designed to. I thought when I said it was a dumb question, 0.99

00:18:19.600 it meant no. Well, I just want to be clear and precise. I appreciate you trying to qualify my 0.90

00:18:24.120 questions, but nevertheless, I think it's a fair one that a lot of people have. So, so. My full answer is no.

00:18:28.760 That is a lie. And it's a dumb question. I love him. I just love Stephen Miller, man. 1.00

00:18:35.820 I love him. I, as I've, as I've said repeatedly, repeal the 22nd amendment. Reagan wanted to do

00:18:41.200 it. Repeal the 22nd, repeal term limits. We need, we need to keep this going for a long time. What

00:18:46.160 is the question? Is, is ICE targeting brown people? He laughs. What a dumb question. No.

00:18:53.140 Well, are you, I mean, but are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure. No. Yeah. But like, are you double,

00:18:58.460 triple sure? Uh, yeah. So yes, you are. No, I said, yeah, to the, I'm double, triple sure. No,

00:19:04.880 I'm not. Hey, it was a dumb question. Because Miller explains how it's not just that he denies it. He, 0.99

00:19:12.260 he gives the goods. He says, one of the issues with illegal immigration is that they are taking

00:19:18.060 jobs from black people, right? They're competing with black people for certain jobs. So why would, 1.00

00:19:23.980 this is why Trump was winning an historic percentage of the black male vote in 2024.

00:19:28.720 And by the way, why he won 46% of Hispanic voters. It's not, he can't, also, if you're,

00:19:33.720 if you're trying to get a Venezuelan illegals, you know, Trendy Aragua members out of the country, 1.00

00:19:39.580 are you going to target Arabians? Are you going to target, I don't know, Southern Italians who are a

00:19:45.520 little bit dusky? Are you going to target Eritreans or Ethiopians? No, you're not targeting brown 0.90

00:19:51.580 people. However, however, in fairness to the question, you do have to profile. You have to

00:20:01.800 profile. I mean, you don't have to profile brown people. You don't have to merely racially profile

00:20:06.720 or something, but you do have to profile. This is one of those words, the P word, one of the P words

00:20:12.060 that has been unfairly maligned. You have to profile to enforce the law. You have to profile really to

00:20:19.240 make any judgments throughout the day, but certainly to enforce the law because the cop's

00:20:24.920 job, I get, we have to explain it these days because the, the would be top law enforcement 0.98

00:20:28.000 official in Virginia wants to kill cops and Republicans and their children. So we got to 0.64

00:20:32.620 explain basic things. When you, when you are enforcing the law, you have to distinguish between

00:20:37.140 the innocent and the guilty, the good guys and the bad guys, the victims and the perpetrators.

00:20:42.040 In order to do that, you need to be able to distinguish between them in some cases very quickly

00:20:46.320 because they're not going to hold signs up saying I'm the guilty one. Come arrest me. So you have

00:20:51.460 to be able to distinguish between them using powers of inference. How are you going to be able to

00:20:56.120 distinguish between an American citizen or a lawful immigrant and an illegal alien? Well, you're going

00:21:02.380 to recognize that the vast majority of illegal aliens don't come from Norway, right? They come from

00:21:08.000 Latin America and you're going to have to recognize that the vast majority of illegal aliens don't speak

00:21:14.640 the queen's English, uh, with received pronunciation. They speak versions of Spanish.

00:21:21.780 You will have to recognize that they generally don't wear three-piece J press suits. You know,

00:21:27.220 sometimes they wear, they wear, uh, clothing more fitting their, uh, communities. Uh, you'll have to

00:21:34.440 notice that they don't have, they don't always have the perfect coif. You know, sometimes they have face

00:21:38.360 tattoos and gang symbols. And so you're, you are profiling. You're not profiling merely on one

00:21:44.460 criterion. You know, you're not profiling merely on skin color or something like that, but you are

00:21:50.040 profiling. Profiling is good. It's good when it's not unjust. Prejudice is good when it's not unjust.

00:21:57.500 We have to operate on prejudgments because we are not sufficiently rational or, uh, our minds are not

00:22:03.520 sufficiently efficient. Our brains are not sufficiently efficient to, to, uh, you know,

00:22:08.780 reason through everything all the time. Sometimes you got to go on your gut. That's okay. Don't

00:22:13.680 concede that point to the libs that you're not allowed to profile. Yeah. We know what we know

00:22:17.960 that MS-13 gangsters, uh, don't, don't speak with a Cockney accent. Okay. We know that we don't need

00:22:26.400 to pretend otherwise. We generally know what they look like. We generally know what they sound like.

00:22:31.400 Generally speaking, it's always the ones you most expect. Okay. Now, speaking of law enforcement,

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00:24:32.680 Are you pro-incel?

00:24:33.700 No.

00:24:38.000 Well, welcome to Bar Fight. I'm Michael Knowles. I'm joined tonight by two guests.

00:24:43.500 Wow. Real sophisticated answer. I know. You would know him from CNN if anyone ever watched

00:24:48.380 Adam Mockler. Well, dude, you got to answer my questions a little better. Just because

00:24:51.660 you're wrong about something doesn't mean it's not as convenient. You know what? You should

00:24:55.440 get out of my country. They want more deportation. I'm also joined. One of the most reasonable 0.95

00:25:00.100 people ever to appear on Jubilee. That would be Cecilia Wray. Go check it out. You can watch

00:25:09.640 it now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel and on Daily Wire Plus. President Trump might

00:25:16.220 invoke the Insurrection Act, which is a very, very old law in America. Been on the books for

00:25:22.420 many, many years. And it's been invoked many times, not just in the 19th century, say, but

00:25:28.060 more recently. Why will he do that? Because left-wing cities are spiraling out of control. 0.99

00:25:35.020 There is crime. There is drug use. There are violations of federal law. There are violations

00:25:39.800 of the civil rights of citizens. And the mayors and the governors in these blue cities and blue

00:25:46.280 states won't do anything about it. And so Trump says, I'm going to step in. We will not allow these

00:25:50.680 cities to spiral out of control. The left might want that. They might want their autonomous zones.

00:25:55.560 They might want their weird drugs and sex stuff and crime and murder. But Trump is saying, 0.77

00:26:02.060 we're not going to allow that to happen. This is contrary to the previous weak, squishy,

00:26:09.080 quasi-libertarian Republican stance, which was, you know, if the residents of those blue cities want

00:26:14.760 to let their cities turn to hell holes, let them have it. I don't care. I'll be in my gated community

00:26:19.340 in a red state. Forget about them. Ha, ha, ha. Individualism or whatever. But Trump is saying,

00:26:25.200 no, no, I'm on the side of the little guy. And I'm on the side of American unity. And I want to make

00:26:30.480 our country great again. And making our country great again means not allowing our cities to go

00:26:33.980 to hell. We're one country, and we have an interest in those cities. And those citizens of those cities,

00:26:41.460 they have the right to be protected. And they can call on their federal government and we'll help

00:26:47.620 them out. We're not just going to abandon them. First of all, there are many conservatives in these

00:26:50.900 cities. There are many Republicans, even if they don't form a majority. So we're not going to just

00:26:54.860 abandon them. And we're not going to abandon the city. We're not even going to abandon the Democrats.

00:26:57.380 You don't get to let your cities turn to hell. It's kind of like when you have little kids and

00:27:04.480 they don't want to clean their room. The squishy libertarian individualist answer is, well, kids,

00:27:10.320 it's your room. It's your room if you want to have maggots everywhere and clothes and toys strewn

00:27:18.540 about and blood on the walls. That's fine. That's your room. It's your right to your room.

00:27:22.760 But that's not how I run my house. I would say, hey, actually, it's my house. And I have a

00:27:31.300 responsibility. I'm put in a position of authority to make sure not only that your rights are protected,

00:27:37.580 but that you are living in conditions that are conducive to your flourishing. And so it's not just

00:27:43.140 your room. You have substantial control over your room. You get to put your stuffed animals where you

00:27:49.520 want. You get to, I don't know, turn the lights on or the fan on as you want. But you don't get to

00:27:56.280 burn your room down. Because it's my house. I'm the dad, okay? And it's my house. That's what Trump

00:28:04.580 is saying. That is the conservative point of view. That's certainly the traditional point of view.

00:28:08.540 I think it's the only defensible point of view. So the little kids are throwing their temper tantrums

00:28:13.880 in Portland and Chicago. In Chicago, the mayor of Chicago wants to establish ice-free zones.

00:28:20.580 What's an ice-free zone? According to this order in Chicago, city property can ban ice. Now,

00:28:30.380 does that sound right to you? That a city can ban federal law enforcement from enforcing federal law?

00:28:38.400 Wouldn't that seem to violate the supremacy clause, the nature of federalism? That's a little strange,

00:28:44.160 wouldn't you say? But it goes further. It says that private businesses can choose to display a sign

00:28:50.200 indicating that ice cannot enter without a warrant. This reminds me of when liberal Facebook boomers

00:28:57.300 would post some random chainmail slop that says, this is just to say that Facebook has no right to

00:29:05.060 my pictures. Do you remember this was going on? This happens every so often, but it started a few

00:29:09.740 years ago. See, I'm, this is a privacy notice that I'm asserting my rights, that Facebook doesn't get

00:29:14.740 to use my pictures, but that's not, that doesn't do anything. That has no effect. That's just nonsense.

00:29:21.400 They have a right to your pictures the minute you upload them. Well, it's the same thing here.

00:29:24.560 I am just saying that federal law enforcement has no right to enforce federal law in my marijuana shop.

00:29:32.180 Like, oh yeah, that's a nice sign you have there. Um, I'm taking all your drugs now. I'm taking all

00:29:39.940 your illegal aliens now, but I have a sign in my window. Oh, that's great. Good for you. That's 1.00

00:29:45.660 good. Look at that. Look at your sign. You, you colored inside the lines on your sign. Good. That's

00:29:50.820 good job, Chicago. I'm, I'm enforcing federal law now. Get out of the way. I'm going to, you don't,

00:29:58.060 you don't actually have the right to do that. You don't know, but you don't, maybe we've done,

00:30:03.160 we've, we've failed as parents because we, we have given you unreasonable expectations,

00:30:08.840 but you don't, you don't get to violate federal law because you put a sign in your window. You don't

00:30:16.520 get to, uh, abolish federalism and our constitutional order. Cause you like doodled a sign. Sorry,

00:30:25.760 not going to happen. Trump was asked how far he's going to take this. Would he go so far

00:30:31.260 if the cities and the States push back enough, the liberal cities in the States,

00:30:36.000 would he go so far as to invoke the insurrection act? Here's what he says.

00:30:40.900 Over a weekend.

00:30:43.920 What?

00:30:46.640 Well, I do it if it was necessary so far, it hasn't been necessary, but we have an insurrection

00:30:51.280 act for a reason. If I had to enact it, I didn't, I'd do that. If people were being killed and, uh,

00:30:57.440 courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up. Sure. I do that. I mean,

00:31:03.160 I want to make sure that people aren't killed. We have to make sure that our cities are safe.

00:31:08.460 I love this one line. This is why I love the whole answer, but the one line, he says,

00:31:11.800 we have an insurrection act for a reason. What is the insurrection act do?

00:31:16.040 It empowers the president to deploy the U.S. military and to federalize the National Guard

00:31:24.240 within the United States. That's what it does. Been on the books for a very, very long time.

00:31:29.620 It's not even just one of those long time ago laws that, you know, we used to enforce in the 1850s,

00:31:34.480 but we don't enforce them anymore. We've enforced them pretty recently. Well, well, actually even more

00:31:40.340 recently than the two examples I'm going to cite, but the two examples from the 20th century that are

00:31:44.000 most notable are Eisenhower and Kennedy invoking the insurrection act to desegregate schools and

00:31:51.520 communities at gunpoint. Forcing racial integration at gunpoint that merited invoking the insurrection

00:32:00.960 act, but cities burning to the ground invasions. Uh, I don't want to be hyperbolic parts of cities

00:32:08.800 burning to the ground around the country, not the whole cities, but parts of them. Uh, an invasion

00:32:14.900 of illegal aliens, all of whom in some way have a connection to criminal cartels across the southern

00:32:20.520 border. Some of whom, some members of whom are actual cartel members themselves, foreign terrorist 0.87

00:32:25.880 organizations, murder, theft, rape, criminals getting out of prison. That, how does the social

00:32:37.320 engineering of, of racial integration merit the insurrection act, but cities becoming third world 0.53

00:32:45.700 hell holes with a foreign invasion of particularly criminal people, some of whom are designated as 0.99

00:32:52.400 foreign terrorists? How does that not, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that racial integration didn't 1.00

00:32:58.500 merit invoking the insurrection act. I'm saying if you think that merited invoking the insurrection act,

00:33:05.120 how could you not say that the city's falling into disrepair, explicitly rebuffing federal law

00:33:10.620 enforcement to enforce the most basic federal laws would not. It's crazy because of the way the

00:33:15.400 lib media are going to play this is they're going to say, Trump's invoking the insurrection act. 0.89

00:33:18.580 He's a tyrant. He's, was Kennedy a tyrant? Was Eisenhower a tyrant? Were any of the other

00:33:23.440 presidents who have invoked the insurrection act from the 19th century, the 20th century and so on,

00:33:27.720 were they all tyrants? No. And if, if any of those instances could qualify as tyranny, would you really

00:33:36.020 say that preventing cities from falling into murderous cesspools filled with foreign terrorists 1.00

00:33:41.280 would qualify? I don't think so. I don't think so. We need order so that we can have a functioning

00:33:50.280 country so that we can be strong. We'll get to that in one second because there was an excellent

00:33:55.120 observation from the secretary of war, Pete Hegseth. This month, Daily Wire Plus members are

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00:34:28.660 Join now get 40% off new annual memberships with code fall40 at dailywire.com. My favorite comment

00:34:35.300 yesterday is from the Viking 8513 who says they don't kill you because you're fascist. They call

00:34:40.500 you fascist so they can kill you. That's true. The semantic value of calling someone fascist, 1.00

00:34:47.200 Nazi, all the rest, is to justify violence against you. That's what it means. It doesn't

00:34:55.420 mean, when the left calls someone a Nazi, they don't really know what that means. They don't

00:34:59.900 know much about fascism. I don't think they've read Giovanni Gentile's essay. I don't think they,

00:35:04.940 they, uh, I don't think they're, they're familiar with the, uh, you know, intricacies of national

00:35:09.780 socialism. They're saying that because in our popular understanding, Hitler is the devil. Like 0.71

00:35:16.660 literally he's not, he's not even just Hitler. He's the devil. He's, he's an embodiment of evil, 0.99

00:35:21.600 personification of evil, and therefore it can be resisted at all costs. And anything would be

00:35:29.140 justified in, in rebuffing a Nazi. And so that's how they, that's how they justify killing you. Okay. 0.99

00:35:35.760 What is our strength? What constitutes our strength? For, for many decades now,

00:35:42.920 we've been told that diversity is our strength. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth speaking to the

00:35:48.080 United States Navy says otherwise. Your diversity is not your strength. Your strength

00:35:55.580 is your unity of purpose, your shared mission, your love of country.

00:36:01.600 Simple and yet provocative and contrary to the zeitgeist.

00:36:07.420 Diversity is not your strength. Do you know where that phrase comes from? Diversity is your strength.

00:36:12.200 It comes from Dan Quayle. Dan Quayle, the, who I kind of like, but Dan Quayle, the largely forgotten

00:36:20.900 vice president to George H.W. Bush. He used that phrase in late eighties, early nineties.

00:36:28.560 That's it. It doesn't go back to the constitution. Doesn't go back to the declaration of independence.

00:36:32.120 Doesn't go back to the mid eighties. Goes back to Dan Quayle. It is a dubious proposition.

00:36:41.020 There is no evidence that diversity is ever strength. Unity is strength. When you have a,

00:36:48.260 I don't know, a metal bar or a bar, not even a metal bar, a bar made of composite materials,

00:36:56.400 you know, some metals, some precious metals, some steel, some sand, some clay, some Elmer's glue,

00:37:04.740 some paper mache. It's diverse. It's really diverse. This bar. Is that bar stronger than a

00:37:11.880 bar just made of steel or a bar just made of gold or for that matter, a bar just made of paper mache?

00:37:17.920 At least the bar made of paper mache is not going to have these heavy points that kind of pull and

00:37:22.060 fall and tear. Unity is strength. It's not to say that people who are diverse in certain ways

00:37:27.080 cannot be strong together, but what makes them strong is not their diversity. It's their unity.

00:37:33.060 It's not to say that people who are from different racial or ethnic backgrounds can't be strong

00:37:37.160 together, but if they are to be strong together, it's because of something they share, a unity of

00:37:41.880 purpose, a unity of belief, a unity of loyalty to a particular country or a cause. The diversity

00:37:48.840 will make them weaker in as much as you focus on the diversity. The only thing that will make them 0.99

00:37:53.300 strong is the unity. This was common sense until, I don't know, the early 90s or something.

00:37:59.800 P-TECH Seth restoring that. Bingo, spot on the money.

00:38:02.680 Now, returning to normal. There is a case coming up to the Supreme Court, and it's on another one of

00:38:14.860 these slogans that no one thinks about. Diversity is our strength. We just kind of, it's just drilled

00:38:19.260 into our heads. Well, here's another slogan. Conversion therapy. Have you heard of conversion

00:38:23.420 therapy? Conversion therapy is, if you hear the liberals talk about it, it's when you, you know,

00:38:29.900 hook like the poor trans five-year-olds up to electrodes and torture them or something. That's 1.00

00:38:34.820 what, I don't know. That's the image they paint. It doesn't happen, of course. Nothing even resembling

00:38:38.180 that happens. But conversion therapy, so-called, is when a person who is confused about his sex or has

00:38:45.340 unwanted sexual urges or desires or behaviors goes to a therapist and says, hey, I have distress because

00:38:50.480 of all these sexual behaviors and urges and desires. Can you help me? And the therapist says, yes,

00:38:55.960 yes, I can try to help you. That's conversion therapy. Because if the therapist says, hey, yes,

00:39:05.020 you, well, it's only conversion therapy, I'm sorry, if the person wants to go from a deviant sexual

00:39:11.200 behavior to a normal sexual behavior. If a person wants to go from a normal sexual behavior to a

00:39:17.280 deviant sexual behavior, like a person comes to a therapist and says, hey, I'm married. I have a wife.

00:39:23.860 I have a white picket fence and a dog and three kids. And I don't know. But I really want to be a

00:39:32.120 woman. Now, I'm a man, but I want to be a woman. Or I really want to go date three fellas in a 1.00

00:39:40.400 billy goat. I want to do that. And the therapist says, oh, yeah, I'll help you think about that. 0.89

00:39:47.220 I'll help you resolve that identity. That's totally fine. The law says that's awesome.

00:39:52.980 But if the guy who thinks he's a woman or the guy with three guys in a billy goat or whatever says,

00:39:58.440 hey, I really actually, I don't, I think this is bad. And I'd rather have a more normal kind of

00:40:03.540 sexual view and desires and behaviors. And the therapist says, okay, I'll try to help you do

00:40:09.260 that. That's illegal. The therapist will lose his or her license over that. So there's a court case

00:40:14.860 about this. Because it's not that conversion therapy is illegal and other kinds of therapy

00:40:20.720 are illegal. It's that some kinds of conversion therapy are illegal, but not the other kinds.

00:40:27.580 The ones that say, hey, you should go be gay or trans. That's great. That's fine. It's only the 1.00

00:40:34.420 other way. So at a deeper level, what this gets to is the fact that all therapy of all kinds,

00:40:41.160 not just sex kinds, but of all kinds, all therapy is conversion therapy. Because someone comes in and

00:40:47.000 says, hey, I have a certain way of thinking that is causing me distress. And I want to think in

00:40:53.160 another kind of way. I have a certain kind of behavior. I want to behave in another kind of way.

00:40:56.660 I have a certain kind of identity. I want to have a different kind of identity.

00:40:58.660 therapy. And the entire purpose of therapy, the raise on debt of the entire industry

00:41:04.280 is to convert people from one set of ideas and behaviors to another.

00:41:11.420 But some of them are illegal now. So this licensed therapist and evangelical Protestant, Kaylee

00:41:17.420 Childs, says that she wants to help religious teens who struggle with their sexual orientation and

00:41:23.320 gender. And she wants to help them to live a life consistent with their faith.

00:41:28.660 But she has to turn these teens away because it's illegal according to state law. 1.00

00:41:33.700 So the teens who, she says she doesn't want to convert them in the sense she's not forcing

00:41:38.380 anything on them. But for teens who want to, quote, reduce or eliminate unwanted sexual

00:41:43.320 attractions, change sexual behaviors, or grow in the experience of harmony with one's physical body,

00:41:47.280 she's not allowed to do that. It's very strange. What if a teen comes and says, hey,

00:41:52.840 I'm addicted to pornography, and I don't want to look at pornography anymore? You would think this

00:42:01.280 would be a pretty basic area for a psychologist to handle, right? It's a sexual compulsion that's

00:42:08.820 clearly bad for you that involves things that were illegal for most of American history. And surely

00:42:15.040 though, and I think under the state law, if the teen said, I want to stop looking at straight porn,

00:42:23.480 I think the therapist is allowed to do it. But if the same teen goes in and says, I want to stop

00:42:30.140 looking at gay porn, I don't think the way the law is written, I don't think that the therapist is 0.68

00:42:37.340 allowed to do it. Is that the craziest thing you've ever heard in your life? Or furthermore, 0.99

00:42:42.580 if the person says, I don't want to have to, I want to kind of change the sexual fantasies that

00:42:48.540 are bothering me. Well, that's really no different from porn. It's not all that different from a porn 0.51

00:42:54.020 addiction. There, I think it's pretty clear that the therapist is not allowed to intervene. If

00:43:00.220 they're straight fantasies, the therapist is allowed to intervene. If they're not straight,

00:43:03.980 if they're aberrant or deviant fantasies, the therapist is not. There is no way that that should

00:43:09.380 be legal. That's obviously preposterous. The case is going up to the Supreme Court.

00:43:15.080 I want to give due consideration to the other side here. The fear from a lot of people, the

00:43:21.140 liberals and the people who bought into propaganda, but even moderate people, is that some hyperzealous

00:43:27.660 parents of a kind of dubious religious view are going to seriously damage their children

00:43:34.660 by forcing them into this therapy that's going to potentially make their psychiatric problems worse.

00:43:44.340 And so it'd be much better for the teens. This is what the liberals would argue. It'd be much better

00:43:48.280 for the teens to come out as gay or trans or pans or this or that or the other thing.

00:43:54.280 And to make that argument, the liberals have to ignore all of the comorbidities that go along with

00:43:59.180 those identities. The anxiety, the depression, the suicidality, they have to ignore all of that,

00:44:04.940 not just with trans, but with the LGBT umbrella broadly. But let's go with it for a second. Let's

00:44:09.560 ignore that for a second too. Let's be as generous to the liberals' argument as we can be.

00:44:14.740 The argument is that the government must intervene to overrule the parents in cases of sexual morality.

00:44:22.840 Right? That is essentially what the liberals are saying. That's why we have to ban conversion therapy.

00:44:27.960 And my question is, what is the evidence that the government is a better arbiter of sexual morality

00:44:36.460 than the parents? I'm not saying parents can't be bad arbiters of sexual morality.

00:44:42.120 I'm not saying the government can't be a good arbiter of sexual morality. I'm asking you right now,

00:44:47.640 today, year of our Lord, 2025, what is the argument that the government, which has in recent years,

00:44:55.520 vociferously embraced transgender ideology, transing the children, weird sex, pornography, 1.00

00:45:04.880 self-abuse, on and on and on and on? What is the argument that that entity is better 0.89

00:45:10.020 at sexual morality than parents? There's no evidence for it. And there's a ton of evidence

00:45:15.960 to the contrary. I'm not even asking you to come to some grand conclusion about government or parents

00:45:21.500 in general. I'm just saying right now, the government that promotes freaky, creepy, weird sex stuff that 0.90

00:45:29.420 is really bad for you and for, and especially bad for children, that government is not a better

00:45:35.040 arbiter of these questions than parents, even if parents might be a mixed bag. Okay, before we go,

00:45:40.160 there's one last story I have to get to. And it involves, involves sex stuff because it involves

00:45:46.740 marriage. Ayesha Curry. Ayesha Curry, I am told, is the wife of Steph Curry. Steph Curry, I am told,

00:45:55.300 is a professional athlete. That's basically all I know about Steph Curry. So he's wealthy, he's famous,

00:46:02.860 he's married this woman. She's got everything, everything that most women want. She's got kids,

00:46:10.240 she's got it all, man. And she's still unhappy, as she explains to the Call Her Daddy podcast.

00:46:16.740 I didn't want kids. I, I didn't want to get married. I thought I was going to be career girl and

00:46:26.460 that's it. And I had my eyes set on my goals and I was never the little girl that like dreamt about

00:46:33.940 the wedding dress and all of that. And then it happened so early in my life. Did you talk to Steph

00:46:42.620 about it? He tries to resonate with me, but he just can't. And he also comes from a place of like,

00:46:54.400 it's effing stupid. Like, it's not true. So why? And I'm like, but wait, like, listen to how it makes 1.00

00:47:02.200 me feel. And he's like, but why does it make you feel like that? It's not real. After we got married,

00:47:08.340 we found out we were pregnant with our daughters so quickly. It, I didn't even have time to think

00:47:17.100 about what I wanted anymore. It's so interesting. I spent my entire life, like trying to work

00:47:23.160 towards something and then it kind of just disappeared. And I didn't think twice about it.

00:47:29.420 Aisha Curry, the, the woman to whom everything happens, the woman with the least agency in the 0.93

00:47:39.960 world. She didn't want to get married. She didn't want to have kids. I don't know. Steph Curry just 0.73

00:47:45.620 came up one day with his bat. Is he, does he play basketball or football? Whatever, whatever ball

00:47:50.000 game he plays, you know, came, he took the baseball bat. I don't know whatever sport it is. He just clubbed

00:47:54.360 her on the head one day, dragged her back to his cave. And what next thing she knows, she's married. 0.99

00:48:00.040 And then, you know, what happened? She'd, I don't know. She went, she must've, she dozed off one day.

00:48:04.580 I don't know. Next thing you know, she wakes up, she's pregnant. Can you imagine? She didn't want to 1.00

00:48:08.040 get married. She wanted to have kids. She had this other plan. Her life sucks, you know, doesn't it?

00:48:15.220 She's got to, she's got to have a beautiful family and a supportive husband and a ton of material 0.99

00:48:22.300 resources and public adulation. And she's got to have all that. She's has to have that, but she 1.00

00:48:29.400 wanted something else. She doesn't exactly know what, but it's like, ah, ah, it's like life, you

00:48:34.960 know, ah, a reminder, a takeaway here. I don't mean to beat up on Mrs. Mrs. Curry all that much.

00:48:40.780 Just a reminder. And it's not even just the women. It's more pronounced among women,

00:48:44.380 but it's true of people in general. Being happy, being joyful is, is, is kind of like a state of

00:48:57.040 being. It's not really contingent on external circumstances. To some degree it is. When your

00:49:04.740 friend dies, you're going to have a bad couple of weeks. You're going to have a tough couple of

00:49:07.960 weeks, I should say. You're going to have a tough couple of weeks. When you have material wants,

00:49:12.320 you're going to struggle a little bit. When you have longings that are unfulfilled, it'll, that'll,

00:49:19.460 that can wear on you a little bit. But just broadly speaking over the course of your life,

00:49:25.760 your happiness and your, um, misery have basically nothing to do with your external circumstances.

00:49:34.240 Because happiness is, uh, well, Aristotle defines it as, uh, excellent rational activity done in

00:49:43.380 accordance with virtue. So it's a, it's kind of a movement of the soul. It's not, it's not really

00:49:49.560 about how much money, you know, the ideal amount of money to have, right? You know, the perfect amount

00:49:52.340 of money is just a little bit more. That's, that's how it is. I remember, I have a friend once who said

00:49:57.180 to me, I had been to, um, uh, a beautiful beach in the Caribbean, beautiful beach in the ocean.

00:50:04.380 I was just talking about how great it was. And my friend says, oh, Michael, you could be happy

00:50:07.780 anywhere. I can't be happy here. How could I be happy? What are you talking about? This is as good

00:50:12.940 as it gets. Where are you? But maybe there was some truth to that observation.

00:50:19.540 Take the warning from Aisha Curry. If you're just walking around now, it's a bad day. Tomorrow will be

00:50:26.260 better though. But I'm having a, and if only I, if only I had a different lunch, if only I had a

00:50:31.760 different job, if only I had a different, if only I, if only, if only you're going to have a, you're

00:50:36.820 going to have a bad life with that attitude, man. Don't do it. Fix it now. Okay. Today is Teehee

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 07, 2025

Ep. 1830 - It Gets Worse, Democrats Admit They Want Cops DEAD Too

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