Ep. 1830 - It Gets Worse, Democrats Admit They Want Cops DEAD Too
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Jay Jones, the Democratic nominee for attorney general in Virginia, has been accused of wishing murder upon a Republican opponent and the opponent s children. Today we learn that he has also wished for cops to be killed so that the cops stop enforcing the law. This is the Democrats candidate for AG, by the way, the top law enforcement official in Virginia. We ll get into all of that.
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Yesterday, we read through the text messages of Jay Jones, the Democrat nominee for Attorney
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General Virginia, who wished murder upon a Republican opponent and the opponent's children.
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Today, we learn that he has also wished for cops to be killed so that the cops stop enforcing the
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law. This is the Democrats candidate for Attorney General, by the way, the top law enforcement
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official in Virginia. We'll get into all of that, but I think most illuminating of all,
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we learn that Jay Jones still has not lost a single Democrat endorsement because all those
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Democrats who are endorsing Jay Jones want to murder you and your kids, too. I'm Michael
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Welcome back to the show. Stephen Miller, Deputy White House Chief of Staff, just destroyed CNN
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with facts and logic. It was beautiful to see. This, as President Trump considers invoking the
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about him, the worse and worse he looks, Jay Jones. Jay Jones was a state legislator, and then he's running
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for attorney general of Virginia. That is to say the top law enforcement official in Virginia, and one of Jay
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Jones' former colleagues has come out with text messages in which Jones says he wants to murder his, the then
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Republican Speaker of the House, one of his Republican opponents, and he wants to see the Republicans'
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children murdered, dying in their mother's arms, and he says that the kids are little fascists, that the
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Republican and his wife are breeding little fascists. So, real upstanding guy. Jay Jones then issues a
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non-apology in which he doesn't use the word sorry, doesn't use the word apology, doesn't use the word
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apologize. He uses the word regret generally and in the context of everyone regretting certain text
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messages, and then he blames it all on Trump. So, a non-apology apology. And now we find out it wasn't
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just a one-off, because I think this is the way that the Democrats have been able to firmly stand
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behind Jay Jones. The Virginia Beach Democratic Committee, people like Cory Booker, the gubernatorial
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candidate, Abigail Spanberger, all of these people have continued to endorse Jay Jones, which is to say
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they are endorsing murdering you and your kids, too. I don't see how else you can read it. Well, the way that
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they're going to get away with it goes back to Jay Jones' fake apology, when he says, look, we've all sent
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texts we regret. So, what they're trying to say is, look, okay, yeah, one time, okay, one time I wished that my
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political opponents would be murdered along with their children, dying in their mother's arms. Okay, like, one time,
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who hasn't, right? It's like, come on, you know, you're a little tired, maybe you had a few drinks, and you wish
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death upon your enemies and their children, you know? It's just like, come on, who hasn't? Let him who is without sin
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cast the first stone. And I guess that's working on some people, maybe. The problem now is, this is a pattern.
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This wasn't just a one-off wishing of death on Republicans and their kids. Also, it seems, Jay Jones wants cops to
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die. Jay Jones running for the top law enforcement office in the state, in the Commonwealth, is
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fantasizing about cops being killed, because then the cops won't enforce the law. Not only is this sick,
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vile, psycho stuff that Cory Booker apparently endorses, that Abigail Spanberger apparently endorses,
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that the Democratic Party endorses. Not only is it sick, vile, psycho stuff, it also runs contrary to
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the job that he is seeking. The only thing you're supposed to do as attorney general is enforce the
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law, advance the law, advance justice. And this guy, well, I'll just read his words. So according to the
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person who first released the text messages, the person who received those text messages because
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Jay Jones meant to text someone else, accidentally texted this person, and then just kept it up and
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doubled down and tripled down. This person said, quote,
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we had a pretty heated conversation about public policy and pain involving qualified immunity.
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That is the immunity that police officers receive while doing their jobs so that they can do their
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jobs. I served on the courts committee for a short period of time, a bill to remove qualified
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immunity for police officers, which protects police officers from personal liability in their line of
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duty and their line of work. And he believed that they should not have qualified immunity. And he was
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trying to convince me to agree with that. So this guy, Jay Jones, does not want police officers to be
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protected from personal liability while they're carrying out their jobs, which is to say the top
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law, the would-be top law enforcement official in Virginia doesn't want there to be cops. He doesn't,
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he doesn't want police officers to be able to enforce the law because without qualified immunity,
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cops just simply can't enforce the law today. That's just not, that's just how it works. So they go on.
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I said, no, police officers have to make a split-second decision about whether or not to
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shoot a gun to protect themselves or protect others. And if they're going to have to think
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about it, will this strip my whole family of everything? Are they going to be able to make
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that split-second decision? And I said, I believe that people will get killed. Police officers will
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get killed. And he said, Jay Jones, well, maybe if a few of them died, that they would move on,
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not shooting people, not killing people. And I said, that's insane. Okay.
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AG candidate wants to murder Republicans, wants to murder their kids, accuses the kids of
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Republicans of being little fascists and wants cops to die so that they stop enforcing the law.
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How is the AP reporting on this? You know, I bet you could, I bet you could write the headline
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without my even reading it to you. Trump's GOP seizes on violent rhetoric from Virginia
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Attorney General candidate as high-stakes elections loom.
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They seize. We're seizing. We're having seizures. That's it. If you want the latest updates,
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the really important breaking news about Republicans seizing, make sure that you
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open up the Associated Press. It's not the violent rhetoric. And by the way,
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violent rhetoric is pretty vague. Virginia Attorney General candidate fantasizes about
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murdering Republicans and their kids and killing cops. Not the story.
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Me seizing on that, that you seizing on that, that's the story. That's what's newsworthy.
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That's man bites dog, wouldn't you say? So they know it's bad. They do this all the time. This is
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a species of Republicans pounce, which is a tried and true genre of left-wing dishonest journalism.
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At this point, I think the AP is conscious of it, probably. I say, tee-hee-hee, this will get
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under Republican skin. Okay, we won't do pounce. We'll do seize. Okay, so they're seizing. They're
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all seizing. But it's not going away. Even Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman,
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who's a liberal host on MSNBC, married to Mika Brzezinski. Even he came out, no fan of Trump,
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no fan of Republicans anymore. Even he said, Jones has to drop out.
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Coming up, an attorney general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his texts about
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a state lawmaker. We'll go through what the message has said.
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Yeah, he should probably be forced to withdraw from the race and probably is doing a lot there.
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Whoa, two takeaways here. One, when you've lost Morning Joe as a liberal, as a Democrat,
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you're in trouble. This attorney general candidate, I think is done. Whether he loses
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the support of Democrats or not, I think he's done. The only question now is, will his collapse
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affect the rest of the race? Abigail Spanberger, for instance, the gubernatorial candidate,
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the Democrat. Because right now, polling, I think as of yesterday, shows she's up 10 points over
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Winsome Sears, who's the Republican candidate. So Abigail Spanberger at this point can probably say,
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all right, I'm going to continue to endorse this AG who wants to murder Republicans and their kids
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and cops because it's not affecting my poll numbers. He, I think, is done. But she's going
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to continue to defend that. For anyone with even a modicum of moderation, reasonability, morality,
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even a slight hint, even the simulacrum of such for political gain, they have to drop Jay Jones at
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this point. So that's what Joe Scarborough's doing. He's still somewhere back there. He remembers what
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it was like to be at least a moderate Republican. And he says, hold on, we can't, we can't be murdered.
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He wants to murder me and my kids. We can't have that, right? Okay, I think he needs to drop out.
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But then what's most telling is, what does Mika Brzezinski say? He says, well, hold on. She
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interrupts him. She seems to disagree. They're going to break. So she doesn't quite get the
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thought out. He says, I think he's got to drop out of the race. He goes, but I mean, they're married.
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She's married to a guy who at least at one point was Republican. She's a mainstream media host for
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many years. Her father was a major figure of Democrat politics in the 20th century.
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And she says, I mean, I don't know. What's a little murder of Republicans between friends?
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I don't know. He only wanted, how many kids does he have? He has two kids that he wants to murder?
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I don't, if he had three or four kids, I mean, that'd be one thing, but
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even she, even she, not one, not one Democrat endorsement missing. I know many of you called
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Senator Booker's office yesterday. I don't have the phone number on my desk right now,
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but if you didn't call Senator Booker's office, or if you didn't call Abigail Spanberger's office,
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or if you didn't call any of the many people that the unions, the nonprofits that are endorsing
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Jay Jones, I would consider, I would consider calling them asking why they support this.
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The fact that this, I still think we're not so far gone as a country that Jay Jones is going to
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become the AG. I think he's done, and I think he should be happily shown the exit to, from public
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life, and he should go work some private job where no one has to hear from him or his disgusting
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thoughts anymore. But the fact that this is not going to drag down the gubernatorial candidate
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potentially, other Democrats, it shows you we're in a very different stage than we were six years ago.
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going to be smearing that. I don't mean to belabor the point on this AG candidate, but it's just,
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it's after Charlie's assassination, after the BLM riots, after the attacks on ICE, after the insurrections
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by the Democrat politicians in the cities, which we'll get to momentarily, after, after, after.
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The fact that one of these Democrats running for a law enforcement office is saying, yeah,
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I want to murder all of you. I want to murder you and your kids and cops. I don't want to murder
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you. I want you, I want you to, to die in your mother's arms. The fact that he's saying this and
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all the Democrats, all the Democrats, every single one of them is just, oh, great. Yep. He didn't lose
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a single vote. He didn't lose a single endorsement is so horrifying. It reveals to you the fetid rotten
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core of the Democrat party and the American left. And it's going to be run on TV screens and computer
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screens and phone screens for months. We start with breaking news from the campaign trail.
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Jay Jones is under fire tonight. Jay Jones is under fire. Jay Jones is under fire after messages he sent
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in 2022 saying former Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert should be shot. I'm excited about this
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ticket. It's been great to be out on the campaign trail with Jay Jones. You said Gilbert's wife could
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watch her own child die in her arms so that Gilbert might reconsider his political views.
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We deserve an attorney general who will stand up for the people of Virginia.
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Jones said, quote, Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.
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Jones doubled down saying, quote, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding
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little fascists? Yes. How can Virginians trust a man who said something so horrific,
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so callously? Only when people feel pain personally, do they move on policy.
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Good ad, really good ad from Winsome Sears. And fair is the other thing. Look,
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there are plenty of attacks in political campaigns that are cheap, that are unfair,
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that are October surprises. This one's fair because it's not just one little word he said,
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it's repeated statements. Only when people feel the pain will that change their policy.
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It's Abigail Spanberger running for governor. Let your rage fuel you. It's this guy time and again
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in multiple conversations apparently. After the Democrats were found in polling to be much more
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likely to endorse political violence as people who are very liberal are eight times as likely to defend
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political violence as people who are very conservative. As young liberals, upwards of 30% of
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them support political violence, whereas many, many fewer conservatives do. Something like 7% or
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something of young conservatives. Time and time and time again, after the hideous reaction to the murder
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of Charlie Kirk, which on the left varied at all levels from shrugging their shoulders to excusing it
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to celebrating it. So it's a fair ad. And I think this guy, Jay Jones, has to be the face of the
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Democrat Party because he is, because he is, he actually represents them. And many top Democrats,
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notably Cory Booker, Abigail Spanberger, Planned Parenthood, I guess that makes sense.
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Lots of unions all endure, continue to endorse him today and they need to be held to account for that.
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Okay. Speaking of law enforcement, Stephen Miller just destroyed CNN with facts and logic. Here's a
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set up. Stephen Miller was asked if ICE is racially profiling. Here's the answer.
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Is it the case that as Pritzker frames it, you are profiling brown people that,
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that this immigration crackdown is designed to go after people of color?
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That is the, it's such a, oh, what a dumb question. The illegal aliens who are here
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are taking jobs away from blacks. They're taking jobs away from whites. They're taking jobs away
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from Latinos. They're taking their health benefits away. They're taking their school slots away. And
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of course, in many cases, they're committing heinous crimes. We cannot have a system of law in this
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country that privileges illegal aliens over American citizens. And that's what they're doing.
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You know it. And I know. So, so that's not exactly a no, Stephen. Can, can you just unequivocally
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state that the immigration policy. I said it was a dumb question. Okay. No, and it's a dumb question.
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So, so no, this policy is not designed to. I thought when I said it was a dumb question,
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it meant no. Well, I just want to be clear and precise. I appreciate you trying to qualify my
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questions, but nevertheless, I think it's a fair one that a lot of people have. So, so. My full answer is no.
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That is a lie. And it's a dumb question. I love him. I just love Stephen Miller, man.
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I love him. I, as I've, as I've said repeatedly, repeal the 22nd amendment. Reagan wanted to do
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it. Repeal the 22nd, repeal term limits. We need, we need to keep this going for a long time. What
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is the question? Is, is ICE targeting brown people? He laughs. What a dumb question. No.
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Well, are you, I mean, but are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure. No. Yeah. But like, are you double,
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triple sure? Uh, yeah. So yes, you are. No, I said, yeah, to the, I'm double, triple sure. No,
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I'm not. Hey, it was a dumb question. Because Miller explains how it's not just that he denies it. He,
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he gives the goods. He says, one of the issues with illegal immigration is that they are taking
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jobs from black people, right? They're competing with black people for certain jobs. So why would,
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this is why Trump was winning an historic percentage of the black male vote in 2024.
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And by the way, why he won 46% of Hispanic voters. It's not, he can't, also, if you're,
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if you're trying to get a Venezuelan illegals, you know, Trendy Aragua members out of the country,
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are you going to target Arabians? Are you going to target, I don't know, Southern Italians who are a
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little bit dusky? Are you going to target Eritreans or Ethiopians? No, you're not targeting brown
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people. However, however, in fairness to the question, you do have to profile. You have to
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profile. I mean, you don't have to profile brown people. You don't have to merely racially profile
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or something, but you do have to profile. This is one of those words, the P word, one of the P words
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that has been unfairly maligned. You have to profile to enforce the law. You have to profile really to
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make any judgments throughout the day, but certainly to enforce the law because the cop's
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job, I get, we have to explain it these days because the, the would be top law enforcement
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official in Virginia wants to kill cops and Republicans and their children. So we got to
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explain basic things. When you, when you are enforcing the law, you have to distinguish between
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the innocent and the guilty, the good guys and the bad guys, the victims and the perpetrators.
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In order to do that, you need to be able to distinguish between them in some cases very quickly
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because they're not going to hold signs up saying I'm the guilty one. Come arrest me. So you have
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to be able to distinguish between them using powers of inference. How are you going to be able to
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distinguish between an American citizen or a lawful immigrant and an illegal alien? Well, you're going
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to recognize that the vast majority of illegal aliens don't come from Norway, right? They come from
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Latin America and you're going to have to recognize that the vast majority of illegal aliens don't speak
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the queen's English, uh, with received pronunciation. They speak versions of Spanish.
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You will have to recognize that they generally don't wear three-piece J press suits. You know,
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sometimes they wear, they wear, uh, clothing more fitting their, uh, communities. Uh, you'll have to
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notice that they don't have, they don't always have the perfect coif. You know, sometimes they have face
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tattoos and gang symbols. And so you're, you are profiling. You're not profiling merely on one
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criterion. You know, you're not profiling merely on skin color or something like that, but you are
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profiling. Profiling is good. It's good when it's not unjust. Prejudice is good when it's not unjust.
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We have to operate on prejudgments because we are not sufficiently rational or, uh, our minds are not
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sufficiently efficient. Our brains are not sufficiently efficient to, to, uh, you know,
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reason through everything all the time. Sometimes you got to go on your gut. That's okay. Don't
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concede that point to the libs that you're not allowed to profile. Yeah. We know what we know
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that MS-13 gangsters, uh, don't, don't speak with a Cockney accent. Okay. We know that we don't need
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to pretend otherwise. We generally know what they look like. We generally know what they sound like.
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Generally speaking, it's always the ones you most expect. Okay. Now, speaking of law enforcement,
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enter michael at takelean.com. That is code Michael, takelean.com. Folks, I have this new show
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out. We put the first episode out. I really, I love it. I want to do more of them. It's called
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Most of the illegals are asylum seekers or are they economic right?
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Wait, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's see what you just said.
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Well, welcome to Bar Fight. I'm Michael Knowles. I'm joined tonight by two guests.
00:24:43.500
Wow. Real sophisticated answer. I know. You would know him from CNN if anyone ever watched
00:24:48.380
Adam Mockler. Well, dude, you got to answer my questions a little better. Just because
00:24:51.660
you're wrong about something doesn't mean it's not as convenient. You know what? You should
00:24:55.440
get out of my country. They want more deportation. I'm also joined. One of the most reasonable
00:25:00.100
people ever to appear on Jubilee. That would be Cecilia Wray. Go check it out. You can watch
00:25:09.640
it now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel and on Daily Wire Plus. President Trump might
00:25:16.220
invoke the Insurrection Act, which is a very, very old law in America. Been on the books for
00:25:22.420
many, many years. And it's been invoked many times, not just in the 19th century, say, but
00:25:28.060
more recently. Why will he do that? Because left-wing cities are spiraling out of control.
00:25:35.020
There is crime. There is drug use. There are violations of federal law. There are violations
00:25:39.800
of the civil rights of citizens. And the mayors and the governors in these blue cities and blue
00:25:46.280
states won't do anything about it. And so Trump says, I'm going to step in. We will not allow these
00:25:50.680
cities to spiral out of control. The left might want that. They might want their autonomous zones.
00:25:55.560
They might want their weird drugs and sex stuff and crime and murder. But Trump is saying,
00:26:02.060
we're not going to allow that to happen. This is contrary to the previous weak, squishy,
00:26:09.080
quasi-libertarian Republican stance, which was, you know, if the residents of those blue cities want
00:26:14.760
to let their cities turn to hell holes, let them have it. I don't care. I'll be in my gated community
00:26:19.340
in a red state. Forget about them. Ha, ha, ha. Individualism or whatever. But Trump is saying,
00:26:25.200
no, no, I'm on the side of the little guy. And I'm on the side of American unity. And I want to make
00:26:30.480
our country great again. And making our country great again means not allowing our cities to go
00:26:33.980
to hell. We're one country, and we have an interest in those cities. And those citizens of those cities,
00:26:41.460
they have the right to be protected. And they can call on their federal government and we'll help
00:26:47.620
them out. We're not just going to abandon them. First of all, there are many conservatives in these
00:26:50.900
cities. There are many Republicans, even if they don't form a majority. So we're not going to just
00:26:54.860
abandon them. And we're not going to abandon the city. We're not even going to abandon the Democrats.
00:26:57.380
You don't get to let your cities turn to hell. It's kind of like when you have little kids and
00:27:04.480
they don't want to clean their room. The squishy libertarian individualist answer is, well, kids,
00:27:10.320
it's your room. It's your room if you want to have maggots everywhere and clothes and toys strewn
00:27:18.540
about and blood on the walls. That's fine. That's your room. It's your right to your room.
00:27:22.760
But that's not how I run my house. I would say, hey, actually, it's my house. And I have a
00:27:31.300
responsibility. I'm put in a position of authority to make sure not only that your rights are protected,
00:27:37.580
but that you are living in conditions that are conducive to your flourishing. And so it's not just
00:27:43.140
your room. You have substantial control over your room. You get to put your stuffed animals where you
00:27:49.520
want. You get to, I don't know, turn the lights on or the fan on as you want. But you don't get to
00:27:56.280
burn your room down. Because it's my house. I'm the dad, okay? And it's my house. That's what Trump
00:28:04.580
is saying. That is the conservative point of view. That's certainly the traditional point of view.
00:28:08.540
I think it's the only defensible point of view. So the little kids are throwing their temper tantrums
00:28:13.880
in Portland and Chicago. In Chicago, the mayor of Chicago wants to establish ice-free zones.
00:28:20.580
What's an ice-free zone? According to this order in Chicago, city property can ban ice. Now,
00:28:30.380
does that sound right to you? That a city can ban federal law enforcement from enforcing federal law?
00:28:38.400
Wouldn't that seem to violate the supremacy clause, the nature of federalism? That's a little strange,
00:28:44.160
wouldn't you say? But it goes further. It says that private businesses can choose to display a sign
00:28:50.200
indicating that ice cannot enter without a warrant. This reminds me of when liberal Facebook boomers
00:28:57.300
would post some random chainmail slop that says, this is just to say that Facebook has no right to
00:29:05.060
my pictures. Do you remember this was going on? This happens every so often, but it started a few
00:29:09.740
years ago. See, I'm, this is a privacy notice that I'm asserting my rights, that Facebook doesn't get
00:29:14.740
to use my pictures, but that's not, that doesn't do anything. That has no effect. That's just nonsense.
00:29:21.400
They have a right to your pictures the minute you upload them. Well, it's the same thing here.
00:29:24.560
I am just saying that federal law enforcement has no right to enforce federal law in my marijuana shop.
00:29:32.180
Like, oh yeah, that's a nice sign you have there. Um, I'm taking all your drugs now. I'm taking all
00:29:39.940
your illegal aliens now, but I have a sign in my window. Oh, that's great. Good for you. That's
00:29:45.660
good. Look at that. Look at your sign. You, you colored inside the lines on your sign. Good. That's
00:29:50.820
good job, Chicago. I'm, I'm enforcing federal law now. Get out of the way. I'm going to, you don't,
00:29:58.060
you don't actually have the right to do that. You don't know, but you don't, maybe we've done,
00:30:03.160
we've, we've failed as parents because we, we have given you unreasonable expectations,
00:30:08.840
but you don't, you don't get to violate federal law because you put a sign in your window. You don't
00:30:16.520
get to, uh, abolish federalism and our constitutional order. Cause you like doodled a sign. Sorry,
00:30:25.760
not going to happen. Trump was asked how far he's going to take this. Would he go so far
00:30:31.260
if the cities and the States push back enough, the liberal cities in the States,
00:30:36.000
would he go so far as to invoke the insurrection act? Here's what he says.
00:30:46.640
Well, I do it if it was necessary so far, it hasn't been necessary, but we have an insurrection
00:30:51.280
act for a reason. If I had to enact it, I didn't, I'd do that. If people were being killed and, uh,
00:30:57.440
courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up. Sure. I do that. I mean,
00:31:03.160
I want to make sure that people aren't killed. We have to make sure that our cities are safe.
00:31:08.460
I love this one line. This is why I love the whole answer, but the one line, he says,
00:31:11.800
we have an insurrection act for a reason. What is the insurrection act do?
00:31:16.040
It empowers the president to deploy the U.S. military and to federalize the National Guard
00:31:24.240
within the United States. That's what it does. Been on the books for a very, very long time.
00:31:29.620
It's not even just one of those long time ago laws that, you know, we used to enforce in the 1850s,
00:31:34.480
but we don't enforce them anymore. We've enforced them pretty recently. Well, well, actually even more
00:31:40.340
recently than the two examples I'm going to cite, but the two examples from the 20th century that are
00:31:44.000
most notable are Eisenhower and Kennedy invoking the insurrection act to desegregate schools and
00:31:51.520
communities at gunpoint. Forcing racial integration at gunpoint that merited invoking the insurrection
00:32:00.960
act, but cities burning to the ground invasions. Uh, I don't want to be hyperbolic parts of cities
00:32:08.800
burning to the ground around the country, not the whole cities, but parts of them. Uh, an invasion
00:32:14.900
of illegal aliens, all of whom in some way have a connection to criminal cartels across the southern
00:32:20.520
border. Some of whom, some members of whom are actual cartel members themselves, foreign terrorist
00:32:25.880
organizations, murder, theft, rape, criminals getting out of prison. That, how does the social
00:32:37.320
engineering of, of racial integration merit the insurrection act, but cities becoming third world
00:32:45.700
hell holes with a foreign invasion of particularly criminal people, some of whom are designated as
00:32:52.400
foreign terrorists? How does that not, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that racial integration didn't
00:32:58.500
merit invoking the insurrection act. I'm saying if you think that merited invoking the insurrection act,
00:33:05.120
how could you not say that the city's falling into disrepair, explicitly rebuffing federal law
00:33:10.620
enforcement to enforce the most basic federal laws would not. It's crazy because of the way the
00:33:15.400
lib media are going to play this is they're going to say, Trump's invoking the insurrection act.
00:33:18.580
He's a tyrant. He's, was Kennedy a tyrant? Was Eisenhower a tyrant? Were any of the other
00:33:23.440
presidents who have invoked the insurrection act from the 19th century, the 20th century and so on,
00:33:27.720
were they all tyrants? No. And if, if any of those instances could qualify as tyranny, would you really
00:33:36.020
say that preventing cities from falling into murderous cesspools filled with foreign terrorists
00:33:41.280
would qualify? I don't think so. I don't think so. We need order so that we can have a functioning
00:33:50.280
country so that we can be strong. We'll get to that in one second because there was an excellent
00:33:55.120
observation from the secretary of war, Pete Hegseth. This month, Daily Wire Plus members are
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Join now get 40% off new annual memberships with code fall40 at dailywire.com. My favorite comment
00:34:35.300
yesterday is from the Viking 8513 who says they don't kill you because you're fascist. They call
00:34:40.500
you fascist so they can kill you. That's true. The semantic value of calling someone fascist,
00:34:47.200
Nazi, all the rest, is to justify violence against you. That's what it means. It doesn't
00:34:55.420
mean, when the left calls someone a Nazi, they don't really know what that means. They don't
00:34:59.900
know much about fascism. I don't think they've read Giovanni Gentile's essay. I don't think they,
00:35:04.940
they, uh, I don't think they're, they're familiar with the, uh, you know, intricacies of national
00:35:09.780
socialism. They're saying that because in our popular understanding, Hitler is the devil. Like
00:35:16.660
literally he's not, he's not even just Hitler. He's the devil. He's, he's an embodiment of evil,
00:35:21.600
personification of evil, and therefore it can be resisted at all costs. And anything would be
00:35:29.140
justified in, in rebuffing a Nazi. And so that's how they, that's how they justify killing you. Okay.
00:35:35.760
What is our strength? What constitutes our strength? For, for many decades now,
00:35:42.920
we've been told that diversity is our strength. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth speaking to the
00:35:48.080
United States Navy says otherwise. Your diversity is not your strength. Your strength
00:35:55.580
is your unity of purpose, your shared mission, your love of country.
00:36:01.600
Simple and yet provocative and contrary to the zeitgeist.
00:36:07.420
Diversity is not your strength. Do you know where that phrase comes from? Diversity is your strength.
00:36:12.200
It comes from Dan Quayle. Dan Quayle, the, who I kind of like, but Dan Quayle, the largely forgotten
00:36:20.900
vice president to George H.W. Bush. He used that phrase in late eighties, early nineties.
00:36:28.560
That's it. It doesn't go back to the constitution. Doesn't go back to the declaration of independence.
00:36:32.120
Doesn't go back to the mid eighties. Goes back to Dan Quayle. It is a dubious proposition.
00:36:41.020
There is no evidence that diversity is ever strength. Unity is strength. When you have a,
00:36:48.260
I don't know, a metal bar or a bar, not even a metal bar, a bar made of composite materials,
00:36:56.400
you know, some metals, some precious metals, some steel, some sand, some clay, some Elmer's glue,
00:37:04.740
some paper mache. It's diverse. It's really diverse. This bar. Is that bar stronger than a
00:37:11.880
bar just made of steel or a bar just made of gold or for that matter, a bar just made of paper mache?
00:37:17.920
At least the bar made of paper mache is not going to have these heavy points that kind of pull and
00:37:22.060
fall and tear. Unity is strength. It's not to say that people who are diverse in certain ways
00:37:27.080
cannot be strong together, but what makes them strong is not their diversity. It's their unity.
00:37:33.060
It's not to say that people who are from different racial or ethnic backgrounds can't be strong
00:37:37.160
together, but if they are to be strong together, it's because of something they share, a unity of
00:37:41.880
purpose, a unity of belief, a unity of loyalty to a particular country or a cause. The diversity
00:37:48.840
will make them weaker in as much as you focus on the diversity. The only thing that will make them
00:37:53.300
strong is the unity. This was common sense until, I don't know, the early 90s or something.
00:37:59.800
P-TECH Seth restoring that. Bingo, spot on the money.
00:38:02.680
Now, returning to normal. There is a case coming up to the Supreme Court, and it's on another one of
00:38:14.860
these slogans that no one thinks about. Diversity is our strength. We just kind of, it's just drilled
00:38:19.260
into our heads. Well, here's another slogan. Conversion therapy. Have you heard of conversion
00:38:23.420
therapy? Conversion therapy is, if you hear the liberals talk about it, it's when you, you know,
00:38:29.900
hook like the poor trans five-year-olds up to electrodes and torture them or something. That's
00:38:34.820
what, I don't know. That's the image they paint. It doesn't happen, of course. Nothing even resembling
00:38:38.180
that happens. But conversion therapy, so-called, is when a person who is confused about his sex or has
00:38:45.340
unwanted sexual urges or desires or behaviors goes to a therapist and says, hey, I have distress because
00:38:50.480
of all these sexual behaviors and urges and desires. Can you help me? And the therapist says, yes,
00:38:55.960
yes, I can try to help you. That's conversion therapy. Because if the therapist says, hey, yes,
00:39:05.020
you, well, it's only conversion therapy, I'm sorry, if the person wants to go from a deviant sexual
00:39:11.200
behavior to a normal sexual behavior. If a person wants to go from a normal sexual behavior to a
00:39:17.280
deviant sexual behavior, like a person comes to a therapist and says, hey, I'm married. I have a wife.
00:39:23.860
I have a white picket fence and a dog and three kids. And I don't know. But I really want to be a
00:39:32.120
woman. Now, I'm a man, but I want to be a woman. Or I really want to go date three fellas in a
00:39:40.400
billy goat. I want to do that. And the therapist says, oh, yeah, I'll help you think about that.
00:39:47.220
I'll help you resolve that identity. That's totally fine. The law says that's awesome.
00:39:52.980
But if the guy who thinks he's a woman or the guy with three guys in a billy goat or whatever says,
00:39:58.440
hey, I really actually, I don't, I think this is bad. And I'd rather have a more normal kind of
00:40:03.540
sexual view and desires and behaviors. And the therapist says, okay, I'll try to help you do
00:40:09.260
that. That's illegal. The therapist will lose his or her license over that. So there's a court case
00:40:14.860
about this. Because it's not that conversion therapy is illegal and other kinds of therapy
00:40:20.720
are illegal. It's that some kinds of conversion therapy are illegal, but not the other kinds.
00:40:27.580
The ones that say, hey, you should go be gay or trans. That's great. That's fine. It's only the
00:40:34.420
other way. So at a deeper level, what this gets to is the fact that all therapy of all kinds,
00:40:41.160
not just sex kinds, but of all kinds, all therapy is conversion therapy. Because someone comes in and
00:40:47.000
says, hey, I have a certain way of thinking that is causing me distress. And I want to think in
00:40:53.160
another kind of way. I have a certain kind of behavior. I want to behave in another kind of way.
00:40:56.660
I have a certain kind of identity. I want to have a different kind of identity.
00:40:58.660
therapy. And the entire purpose of therapy, the raise on debt of the entire industry
00:41:04.280
is to convert people from one set of ideas and behaviors to another.
00:41:11.420
But some of them are illegal now. So this licensed therapist and evangelical Protestant, Kaylee
00:41:17.420
Childs, says that she wants to help religious teens who struggle with their sexual orientation and
00:41:23.320
gender. And she wants to help them to live a life consistent with their faith.
00:41:28.660
But she has to turn these teens away because it's illegal according to state law.
00:41:33.700
So the teens who, she says she doesn't want to convert them in the sense she's not forcing
00:41:38.380
anything on them. But for teens who want to, quote, reduce or eliminate unwanted sexual
00:41:43.320
attractions, change sexual behaviors, or grow in the experience of harmony with one's physical body,
00:41:47.280
she's not allowed to do that. It's very strange. What if a teen comes and says, hey,
00:41:52.840
I'm addicted to pornography, and I don't want to look at pornography anymore? You would think this
00:42:01.280
would be a pretty basic area for a psychologist to handle, right? It's a sexual compulsion that's
00:42:08.820
clearly bad for you that involves things that were illegal for most of American history. And surely
00:42:15.040
though, and I think under the state law, if the teen said, I want to stop looking at straight porn,
00:42:23.480
I think the therapist is allowed to do it. But if the same teen goes in and says, I want to stop
00:42:30.140
looking at gay porn, I don't think the way the law is written, I don't think that the therapist is
00:42:37.340
allowed to do it. Is that the craziest thing you've ever heard in your life? Or furthermore,
00:42:42.580
if the person says, I don't want to have to, I want to kind of change the sexual fantasies that
00:42:48.540
are bothering me. Well, that's really no different from porn. It's not all that different from a porn
00:42:54.020
addiction. There, I think it's pretty clear that the therapist is not allowed to intervene. If
00:43:00.220
they're straight fantasies, the therapist is allowed to intervene. If they're not straight,
00:43:03.980
if they're aberrant or deviant fantasies, the therapist is not. There is no way that that should
00:43:09.380
be legal. That's obviously preposterous. The case is going up to the Supreme Court.
00:43:15.080
I want to give due consideration to the other side here. The fear from a lot of people, the
00:43:21.140
liberals and the people who bought into propaganda, but even moderate people, is that some hyperzealous
00:43:27.660
parents of a kind of dubious religious view are going to seriously damage their children
00:43:34.660
by forcing them into this therapy that's going to potentially make their psychiatric problems worse.
00:43:44.340
And so it'd be much better for the teens. This is what the liberals would argue. It'd be much better
00:43:48.280
for the teens to come out as gay or trans or pans or this or that or the other thing.
00:43:54.280
And to make that argument, the liberals have to ignore all of the comorbidities that go along with
00:43:59.180
those identities. The anxiety, the depression, the suicidality, they have to ignore all of that,
00:44:04.940
not just with trans, but with the LGBT umbrella broadly. But let's go with it for a second. Let's
00:44:09.560
ignore that for a second too. Let's be as generous to the liberals' argument as we can be.
00:44:14.740
The argument is that the government must intervene to overrule the parents in cases of sexual morality.
00:44:22.840
Right? That is essentially what the liberals are saying. That's why we have to ban conversion therapy.
00:44:27.960
And my question is, what is the evidence that the government is a better arbiter of sexual morality
00:44:36.460
than the parents? I'm not saying parents can't be bad arbiters of sexual morality.
00:44:42.120
I'm not saying the government can't be a good arbiter of sexual morality. I'm asking you right now,
00:44:47.640
today, year of our Lord, 2025, what is the argument that the government, which has in recent years,
00:44:55.520
vociferously embraced transgender ideology, transing the children, weird sex, pornography,
00:45:04.880
self-abuse, on and on and on and on? What is the argument that that entity is better
00:45:10.020
at sexual morality than parents? There's no evidence for it. And there's a ton of evidence
00:45:15.960
to the contrary. I'm not even asking you to come to some grand conclusion about government or parents
00:45:21.500
in general. I'm just saying right now, the government that promotes freaky, creepy, weird sex stuff that
00:45:29.420
is really bad for you and for, and especially bad for children, that government is not a better
00:45:35.040
arbiter of these questions than parents, even if parents might be a mixed bag. Okay, before we go,
00:45:40.160
there's one last story I have to get to. And it involves, involves sex stuff because it involves
00:45:46.740
marriage. Ayesha Curry. Ayesha Curry, I am told, is the wife of Steph Curry. Steph Curry, I am told,
00:45:55.300
is a professional athlete. That's basically all I know about Steph Curry. So he's wealthy, he's famous,
00:46:02.860
he's married this woman. She's got everything, everything that most women want. She's got kids,
00:46:10.240
she's got it all, man. And she's still unhappy, as she explains to the Call Her Daddy podcast.
00:46:16.740
I didn't want kids. I, I didn't want to get married. I thought I was going to be career girl and
00:46:26.460
that's it. And I had my eyes set on my goals and I was never the little girl that like dreamt about
00:46:33.940
the wedding dress and all of that. And then it happened so early in my life. Did you talk to Steph
00:46:42.620
about it? He tries to resonate with me, but he just can't. And he also comes from a place of like,
00:46:54.400
it's effing stupid. Like, it's not true. So why? And I'm like, but wait, like, listen to how it makes
00:47:02.200
me feel. And he's like, but why does it make you feel like that? It's not real. After we got married,
00:47:08.340
we found out we were pregnant with our daughters so quickly. It, I didn't even have time to think
00:47:17.100
about what I wanted anymore. It's so interesting. I spent my entire life, like trying to work
00:47:23.160
towards something and then it kind of just disappeared. And I didn't think twice about it.
00:47:29.420
Aisha Curry, the, the woman to whom everything happens, the woman with the least agency in the
00:47:39.960
world. She didn't want to get married. She didn't want to have kids. I don't know. Steph Curry just
00:47:45.620
came up one day with his bat. Is he, does he play basketball or football? Whatever, whatever ball
00:47:50.000
game he plays, you know, came, he took the baseball bat. I don't know whatever sport it is. He just clubbed
00:47:54.360
her on the head one day, dragged her back to his cave. And what next thing she knows, she's married.
00:48:00.040
And then, you know, what happened? She'd, I don't know. She went, she must've, she dozed off one day.
00:48:04.580
I don't know. Next thing you know, she wakes up, she's pregnant. Can you imagine? She didn't want to
00:48:08.040
get married. She wanted to have kids. She had this other plan. Her life sucks, you know, doesn't it?
00:48:15.220
She's got to, she's got to have a beautiful family and a supportive husband and a ton of material
00:48:22.300
resources and public adulation. And she's got to have all that. She's has to have that, but she
00:48:29.400
wanted something else. She doesn't exactly know what, but it's like, ah, ah, it's like life, you
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know, ah, a reminder, a takeaway here. I don't mean to beat up on Mrs. Mrs. Curry all that much.
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Just a reminder. And it's not even just the women. It's more pronounced among women,
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but it's true of people in general. Being happy, being joyful is, is, is kind of like a state of
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being. It's not really contingent on external circumstances. To some degree it is. When your
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friend dies, you're going to have a bad couple of weeks. You're going to have a tough couple of
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weeks, I should say. You're going to have a tough couple of weeks. When you have material wants,
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you're going to struggle a little bit. When you have longings that are unfulfilled, it'll, that'll,
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that can wear on you a little bit. But just broadly speaking over the course of your life,
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your happiness and your, um, misery have basically nothing to do with your external circumstances.
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Because happiness is, uh, well, Aristotle defines it as, uh, excellent rational activity done in
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accordance with virtue. So it's a, it's kind of a movement of the soul. It's not, it's not really
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about how much money, you know, the ideal amount of money to have, right? You know, the perfect amount
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of money is just a little bit more. That's, that's how it is. I remember, I have a friend once who said
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to me, I had been to, um, uh, a beautiful beach in the Caribbean, beautiful beach in the ocean.
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I was just talking about how great it was. And my friend says, oh, Michael, you could be happy
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anywhere. I can't be happy here. How could I be happy? What are you talking about? This is as good
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as it gets. Where are you? But maybe there was some truth to that observation.
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Take the warning from Aisha Curry. If you're just walking around now, it's a bad day. Tomorrow will be
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better though. But I'm having a, and if only I, if only I had a different lunch, if only I had a
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different job, if only I had a different, if only I, if only, if only you're going to have a, you're
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going to have a bad life with that attitude, man. Don't do it. Fix it now. Okay. Today is Teehee
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