Ep. 1834 - Trump Ends The War In Gaza
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After two years, the Israeli hostages are finally home. The war in Gaza is over. President Trump is getting a standing ovation at the Knesset for ending it. And still, the Nobel Committee refuses to give the man his peace prize. Christian foster parents in Massachusetts are losing their kids because they refuse to sign an LGBT pledge.
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Breaking news this morning. After two years, the Israeli hostages are finally home.
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The war in Gaza is over. President Trump is getting a standing ovation at the Knesset for
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ending it. And still, the Nobel Committee refuses to give the man his peace prize.
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I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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of one. Big day, folks. First of all, I woke up, I was a little salty because today is a federal
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holiday. And the federal holiday, it's not Indigenous Peoples Day. It's not just Monday,
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October 13th. It is Columbus Day, the day that we celebrate the man who discovered America,
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the brave Italian explorer. It's a federal holiday. And the anti-Italian discrimination
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at the Daily Wire and many other companies has got to stop.
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Even though, frankly, I would have come into work anyway today because there's so much to talk
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about. I love celebrating Columbus. And there was this breaking news. What immediately cured my salt
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this morning was I wake up, a little bit of a nail biter. We're waiting. The hostages were supposed
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to be released yesterday. We're waiting. We're waiting. I'm updating my news. Did it happen?
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Did it happen? Did Hamas make good? Did Trump end this war? Did he actually end this war? And
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the answer is yes, he did. The 20 living hostages were released. Hamas, after lying,
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after deceit, after stalling, after pulling all this out for two years since they took the hostages,
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they finally were made to release the hostages. This after President Trump said, hey, Hamas,
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I'm giving you one last chance or I'm going to blow you off the face of the earth. And they did it.
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So it was not a stall tactic. And it was not merely a stall tactic. They actually released the
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hostages. That was the last serious remaining card that Hamas had to keep the war going. I guess
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they do still have the remains of the dead hostages, which they're supposedly going to be
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releasing later today or tomorrow. Again, we'll see. Even if they hold the remains of the dead
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hostages ransom, for all intents and purposes, the war is over. President Trump ended the war.
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Israel acknowledges that President Trump ended the war. The Nobel Prize Committee will not
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acknowledge that. We'll get to that momentarily because there's even a fun little caveat to that
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story. But Trump did it. He did it. He said he would do it. His haters on the left and on the right,
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his haters who were pro-Palestine, pro, I don't know, maybe some were pro-Israel. Israel was pretty
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pretty pro-Trump. But all these guys all over, they said he couldn't do it. He wouldn't do it.
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And he did it. And he got a standing ovation at the Knesset. And he did take a little bit of a
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victory lap. Going all the way back, you remember 10 years, we were told that Donald Trump is a
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maniac. He's a cowboy. He's a loose cannon. He's going to cause wars all over the world. He's going
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to usher in World War III. Here's what he said. Good to say it. But when you settle eight wars in
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eight months, that means you don't like war. Everyone thought I was going to be brutal. In
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fact, I remember Hillary Clinton during a debate. She said, look at him, look at him. He's going to
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go to war with everybody. And actually, she said, he's got a personality that's all about war. No,
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my personality actually is all about stopping wars. And it seems to work. It seems to work.
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But it also means there's name change and our attitude that we're not going to go into a war.
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But if we do, we're going to win that war like nobody has ever won a war before. We will not
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be politically correct. But we're not going to be there. And I think, as you mentioned-
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There you have it. There you have it. They said my personality was for war.
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And I think my personality is for stopping wars. It's not just over the past two years
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since the Israel-Gaza war broke out on Joe Biden's watch during the little interregnum when
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they booted Trump out of office. It's not just during this time that they've said I'm pro-war.
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They've been saying this for 10 years. How many wars do I need to stop before you realize
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that my interest is in making peace? It's a real subversion of the liberal media expectation of
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Trump. What's the other thing they say about Trump? They say he's a megalomaniac. He takes
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credit for everything. He's all about retribution. He never forgives his enemies.
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Here's the next thing President Trump said about peace in the Middle East.
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And then you're going to add a man named Marco Rubio, who is also here.
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And I have a prediction that Marco will go down, I mean this, as the greatest secretary of state
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in the history of the United States. I believe that. I believe it.
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And he and I, you know, we really fought it out. You remember, he was tough. He was nasty.
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Who the hell thought this was going to happen, Marco, right? And now I'm saying he's going to go
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down as the greatest. He will. He was always, he was always smart and sharp and people respect him.
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This in some ways is the most, I won't say shocking because it doesn't shock me,
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but I think it's going to shock most people. The most shocking news of the day,
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even beyond the Israel war ending, even beyond the hostages being released.
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Trump sharing credit, saying, you know, it's really not all me.
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How about the secretary of state who negotiated the end of this war?
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This guy, Marco Rubio, not just any secretary of state. He's not just sharing credit with any
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staffer that he's got. He's sharing credit with the guy who ran against him for president in 2016
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and who ran a nasty campaign. Remember, he made the little hands joke. He was insulting Trump's
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masculinity. And Trump says, you're going to go down as the greatest secretary of state ever.
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And you were always sharp and you're always great. This subverts people's expectations.
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Again, not my expectation because I think I've had this guy's number almost from the beginning.
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Maybe it's because I'm a New Yorker. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe it's because I've got a little
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bit of a wider political imagination. And I think a lot of you do as well.
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Now, this should have been obvious. A lot of this stuff should have been obvious.
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The wrongness of the establishment media and the political left should have been obvious from the
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beginning. But even just getting down to what Hillary accused him of, you like Trump and you're
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going to get more peace. That's, well, he was going to cause more wars. Why?
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It was very simple. We had been doing something for many, many years. And then Trump came in and
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legitimately represented a change. His enemies were right about that. When his enemies came in
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and said, Trump is something totally different that we've seen in our lifetimes. They were right
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about that. Trump's enemies on the left said that. The Republican establishment said that. They all
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agreed. Trump represented something different. The error they made is they said,
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Trump represents a break. He represents something totally different. And therefore,
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you're going to get more of the same. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait.
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That doesn't follow. That's a non sequitur. But that's what is meant when Hillary Clinton says,
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if you elect Trump, you're going to get a lot of war. Hold on. It's you people who have given us a lot
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of war. It's you people. You, Hillary, as Secretary of State, certainly not the best Secretary of State
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in American history. It's you, Barack Obama. It's you, George Bush, for that matter. It's you,
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Bill Clinton. If you guys all represent something, broadly speaking, and then Trump represents
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something totally different, then it follows that if you guys have all brought us a ton of war
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all over the place. Going back before 9-11, Daily Wire has a new series out on the USS Cole.
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An intelligence failure and a failure of the Clinton administration to respond to the USS Cole
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that allows 9-11 to happen, that gets us into war in Afghanistan, that then they get us into war in
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Iraq, then they get us into war in Libya, then they support the collapse of Egypt, then, then, then,
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then, then, for 20 years. You guys did that. With you guys, we got more, more, more war. If Trump
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represents something legitimately different, then of course you should expect that he's going to give
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you peace. And yet somehow, somehow, these people don't get it. The Nobel Prize Committee doesn't get
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that Trump is not going to get the Peace Prize. He's been campaigning for it. A lot of his supporters
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have been campaigning for it. He's ended a bunch of wars. They won't give it to him. They gave it instead
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to a Venezuelan political activist, Maria Corina Machado. Okay, probably most people don't know
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anything about Maria Corina Machado. She was an activist against the Maduro regime. Maduro is
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the left-wing dictator of Venezuela and seems that he lost the last election, but he held on to power
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anyway and she gets the prize. This as President Trump is increasing his attacks on Venezuelan drug
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runners, as there are even rumors that we might go to war in Venezuela. Rumors that just remain,
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you know, in the periphery and the commentariat. But nevertheless, there's obviously a real tension
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heating up between the United States and Venezuela. What do we think about Maria Corina Machado
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getting this award? I, for one, think it's great because the Nobel Committee was not going to give
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it to Trump. Hopefully, we'll force them to next year. But here's how she reacted to the prize.
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I dedicated this award to the Venezuelan people and President Trump because I believe that's
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absolutely fair. We, the Venezuelan people, are absolutely grateful to President Trump for the
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way he has supported democracy and freedom in the Americas. Oh, I love her. Give her a second one.
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We should give her some prize. America should give this woman some prize just for that line alone.
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Trump comes out. He says, hey, have you seen all the wars I've ended?
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You see, I ended the war in the middle. It is pretty good, right? Come on. I should get the
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Nobel Peace Prize. And then all the libs on the Nobel Committee say, we're not going to give you
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the Nobel Peace Prize. We're not. Actually, we're going to give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone else.
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And then someone else comes along. It was like, I dedicate this to Trump.
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And the Nobel Prize Committee says, no, no. Wow, that was a reverse Uno card. I think by the
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transitive property of accolades, President Trump just won the Nobel Peace Prize.
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He got, he at least got a share of it. Great. It's, in a way, it's funnier than him actually
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getting the prize. They're just like, oh, we have to, it's so obvious we should give it to Trump,
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but I don't really, I really don't want to. I can't do their silly Norwegian accents.
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So I really don't want to. So what do we do? I know, we'll just give, we'll give it to this
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Venezuelan lady, right? Don't the Hispanics, they hate Trump, don't they? She's like, totally love
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Trump, man. Here you go. I don't know why she sounds like a cholo. But anyway, I think it's
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great. She's terrific. And it's wonderful that she recognized Trump's role, even in that.
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Now, I think even the libs are going to have to admit, this is a big deal. Some are quibbling.
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They say, well, Trump isn't really responsible for ending that war in, where was it? Between
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India and Pakistan. India and Pakistan were going to work out a deal after increasing fighting and
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bombing raids and all the rest. And so he really shouldn't get credit for that. Or he shouldn't
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get credit for, what was it? Something like Serbia or something, or Thailand. I don't know.
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Anyway, there were a lot of little skirmishes kicking off. He shouldn't really get, well,
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what about Israel-Iran? It was pretty good. And this, I think, if the Knesset gives you a
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standing ovation, it says you're responsible for ending this war. I think you got to admit Trump
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did it. Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC, Big Lib on the Big Lib cable network, goes on another liberal
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network, PBS, and admits what his multiple audiences do not want to hear. Trump got this done.
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Look, I'm going to say something that I have never said before and that this audience has
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never heard me say before. Kudos to the president. I think we are at this point because the president
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was single, he was focused, single-mindedly focused on getting something, getting a deal
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done, getting the hostages out. The hard part comes after he leaves the region, after we get past
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phase one, assuming we get the 20, the Israeli hostages released, the 20 who are presumed alive
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after the 2,000 Palestinians are released by Israel.
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Okay, it's a slight correction to Jonathan Capehart here, even, and good on him for admitting reality,
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but he says, okay, so the war has ended after two years and the hostages have been released and all
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the things that people said were not going to happen, they did happen. But now is when the hard
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part comes. I think that part was pretty hard. I think that was pretty hard, wasn't it? Because the
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war kicked off on Joe Biden's watch, on the watch of the liberals when the Democrats had the government,
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and they couldn't prevent it from happening, and then they couldn't resolve it for years.
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And then Trump comes in, and he resolves it pretty quickly. This is the intractable place,
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the Middle East, in the Holy Land in particular. And it took him about eight months, and then he
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solved it. He fixed it. That was very hard. That was very, very hard. You guys couldn't do it. He
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did it. Now, he's right. There's more hard stuff to follow, of course. And I have to say, good on
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Capehart. He's on the other side. He is with the most liberal cable network. He's on PBS. So, okay,
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good on him because what this means is there is no room for confusion. This was all Trump and Rubio and
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the whole administration, but it was all the Trump admin. And it was extremely impressive.
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You hear that, Nobel Committee? You hear that? You hear that, Hillary Clinton? You hear that,
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Democrats? It's not close. Sometimes in politics, we say, well, it's a little ambiguous. And it was
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this and that. Did Reagan really win the Cold War? Or was it really Gorbachev? The Nobel Committee
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wanted to say it was all Gorbachev. This was all Trump. It was just all Trump. He did it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a great cause for celebration. Okay. Speaking of the Jews,
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Jerry Nadler has accused Bobby Kennedy Jr. of anti-Semitism. This was a few days ago. I don't
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want to let this go, though. Jerry Nadler, who is one of the more cartoonish members of Congress,
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liberal Democrat from New York. Nadler tweets out. I'm not going to give you the context. I'm just going
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to read you the tweet, okay? And I want you to try to guess the context. He says,
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this is an anti-Semitic remark. I call on all my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to clearly
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denounce it. He split the infinitive. Listen, that's the least of it here.
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What was the anti-Semitic remark? Here we go. Some libawful Democrat lobs this accusation of
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anti-Semitism. What is it about? Immigration? Is it about taxes? Is it about space lasers? What's
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it about? What did RFK say? Do you have your guess? Here it is.
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There's also just, there's many, many other confirmation studies. There's two studies that
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show children who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism. And it's highly likely
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because they're given Tylenol. So, you know, none of this is this positive, but all of it is stuff
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that we should be paying attention to. He said that babies who were given Tylenol
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have a higher rate of autism. And that is an anti-Semitic remark.
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RFK, citing studies from Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Mount Sinai, not exactly a Gentile institution,
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last I checked. Columbia, on and on and on, says actually when you give Tylenol to babies in utero
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and really little babies, they have a higher incidence of autism and other neurological
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developmental issues. And for this, Jerry Nadler says, it's an anti-Semitic remark. Why? Because,
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he says, one of the reasons that little babies are given Tylenol is because they're circumcised.
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And Jews are circumcised. Therefore, ergo, anti-Semitism, QED.
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More than half of American baby boys are circumcised. And that's down, actually, in recent years.
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Used to be, in the mid-90s, it was like 68%. The vast majority of American boys were circumcised.
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Not because they're Jews. 2.4% of American baby boys are Jews. That number is pretty steady.
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The vast majority, statistically, all of the boys in America who are circumcised
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are not Jews. They're Gentiles. Now, why are they circumcised? It's not because Christianity
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makes you circumcised. It's because America is a Protestant country. And so we come from,
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or was a Protestant country. Increasingly, we're a Catholic country. That's a discussion for another
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time. But we were founded by a bunch of Puritans and separatists and Brownists and pilgrims.
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And they had some eccentric rituals. And one of which is they would circumcise. So there's
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nothing wrong with circumcising somebody. There's nothing wrong. It looks like there might be some
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health benefits to it. As long as you're not doing it for some religious reason. St. Paul says you
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don't need to be circumcised anymore. Baptism is now your circumcision. But if you just do it for a
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cultural reason or something, there's nothing wrong with it. It's all, basically all Gentiles
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in America. How is that anti-Semitism? There are very few people who are more philo-Semitic than I
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am. I'm from New York. I don't know. I like the ancient nomadic tribe. I know now it's very
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fashionable to hate the ancient nomadic tribe, but I like them. But baseless accusations of anti-Semitism
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at Bobby Kennedy Jr. for parroting some Harvard study on Tylenol. That, it does not, it does not
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help the tribe. Okay. It's not, that's not, Jerry Nadler, you are not helping any situation.
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And maybe, maybe don't give the little kids Tylenol if you're going to do the snip. Okay. I don't know.
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I don't know. I'm not a medical doctor, but, but I am, I am a political observer. And I would say
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that kind of accusation, not, not fair. Okay. Speaking of children, a Christian foster couple
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Foster parents in Massachusetts told by the government, you're going to lose your kids
00:25:31.440
because you're Christian. Here is the local news report.
00:25:35.480
Christian faith, it really drives us toward that. James says that true undefiled religion is to care
00:25:43.660
for the fatherless. The Woburn couple reconfigured their home to care for eight foster children,
00:25:49.960
including a baby with complex medical needs, for 15 months. Every night for 15 months, we were up
00:25:56.140
three, at least three times. That's in addition to their own three kids. And they were ready to keep
00:26:01.640
going until Massachusetts Department of Children and Families pulled their license last spring.
00:26:07.260
Foster family must accept a child's assertion of their LGBTQIA plus identity, address children by
00:26:14.300
their names and pronouns, and support gender neutral practices regarding clothes and physical appearance.
00:26:20.260
We had asked, is there any sort of accommodation? Can you waive this at all? We will absolutely love
00:26:26.460
and support and care for any child in our home, but we simply can't agree to go against our Christian
00:26:32.140
faith in this area. And we're ultimately told, no, you must sign the form as is or else you will be
00:26:39.180
delicensed. Do you see the irony here too? The reason that they took these kids in, these are foster
00:26:47.020
parents. These aren't parents who are adopting newborn babies. There are about 34 couples who
00:26:52.540
want to adopt a newborn baby for every newborn baby put up for adoption. Demand vastly outstrips supply.
00:26:59.100
We're talking about the market, as we now do, I guess, for newborn babies. For foster parents,
00:27:06.180
younger kids, teenagers who are in orphanages and state institutions who then go to live with them,
00:27:13.100
supply vastly outstrips demand. Okay. So this couple says, we are Christian. And because of our
00:27:23.500
Christian faith, we feel called to do what most people don't want to do. And that is taking these
00:27:29.460
kids who need a home. We're going to do that. And the state of Massachusetts came in and said,
00:27:33.940
okay, that's great, but you're not allowed to be Christian anymore. Yeah, you can do that.
00:27:40.020
But if you do this, if you do this thing that your faith has impelled you to do,
00:27:43.840
you have to stop being Christian or we're going to take your kids away.
00:27:47.420
Because it's not possible to be Christian and affirm the LGBT identity. You can't do it. I know
00:27:53.740
there are all sorts of flavors of religion that identify as Christian, they call themselves Christian,
00:27:58.660
but the church's teaching on this subject in particular is pretty clear going back about 2000
00:28:04.040
years. You just can't have it. Can't do it. So they say, well, we're not going to renounce our
00:28:10.720
faith for anything, but it's particularly crazy to renounce our faith in order to do the thing that
00:28:18.980
our faith has impelled us to do. Massachusetts says, okay, too bad. And we'll go find some gay
00:28:22.860
couple to give the kids to. Sorry. We're not going to allow the kids to be raised Christian.
00:28:27.780
That's what the state of Massachusetts is saying. We will not allow foster children to be raised in
00:28:34.040
a Christian household, which is obviously religious discrimination. And beyond religious discrimination,
00:28:41.020
it's obviously wrong. All sorts of ideas, they call themselves religion. Some true, some false. But
00:28:48.800
in this case, it's so obviously wrong. You have to raise a kid in an LGBT LMNOP household or affirming
00:28:57.840
household. Can't raise them in a Christian household? That's crazy. What this reveals, though,
00:29:04.040
is the absurdity of the left's argument when they accuse us of trying to enforce our morality on others.
00:29:12.780
Why do you care? Why do you care? That's what they always say. I actually really enjoyed going on the
00:29:20.600
show. I was on Adam Friedland's show. He was this left-wing comedian. We had a great conversation.
00:29:25.500
You can catch it on his YouTube channel. But one of the moments where the interview got kind of spicy
00:29:31.460
is when he was really hitting me on the trans stuff. And he said, well, why do you care?
00:29:38.020
Why do you care? I don't care about this. I said, oh, great. If you don't care, then cut it out.
00:29:42.900
The left was the aggressor on this issue. They're the ones who forced the guys in the
00:29:46.140
girls' bathrooms. They're the ones who forced the rainbow flags all over the public square.
00:29:49.860
And so we responded to that. But if you're saying you don't care, oh, great. Wonderful.
00:29:55.080
Oh, then I guess we're in agreement. You don't care. So give it up. Shut up about the LGBT stuff.
00:30:00.660
Get the stupid rainbow flags out of the streets. Get the men out of the girls' bathroom.
00:30:04.600
Great. You don't care. Because you don't care. We do care about morality. So good.
00:30:09.060
But then I guess we're in agreement. I say, well, no. I mean, when I say, why do we care? I mean,
00:30:15.320
Christians need to shut up. It's basically what the left is saying. They don't really mean it. What
00:30:19.120
do you care? It's funny. Adam actually cut out part of the interview where we were talking about
00:30:24.740
the transgender ideology. I said, do you think it's true? He said, well, I just don't care. I said,
00:30:29.520
I didn't ask if you care. I asked if you think it's true. And they cut that part out of the
00:30:33.340
interview because obviously people care. You should care. And also, I think most people on
00:30:40.960
the left know that it isn't true. They know that the transgender thing is fake. They know a lot of
00:30:44.480
the LGBT stuff is fake. But the most charitable read I can give is they think it's nice. They think
00:30:52.880
it's nice to lie to people. I think that's sincerely what most of them think. And so they
00:30:58.060
say, stop making us answer questions of truth and falsehood. Can't you just be nice? Why do you
00:31:03.720
care? It's like, well, you care a lot. And I think the truth is good and will set you free. And I think
00:31:08.120
falsehood is bad. I think lying is bad. And I think it's disrespectful. And I think it leads you into
00:31:12.780
misery. But one thing I think we should all be able to agree on is we all care. We all care.
00:31:20.560
And there will be some kind of moral framework for the law. So it's either going to be ours or it's
00:31:29.900
going to be yours. And it doesn't even have to feel that personal because that's kind of the way
00:31:34.160
the left views it. It's just factions vying for dominance over the other. That's not how I think
00:31:40.220
about morality. I think the only way that we can come to, I don't know, a peaceful resolution for
00:31:47.260
the law is to think about the law as something objective that can be arrived at through reason.
00:31:54.540
That is the premise of self-government. That is what our founding fathers thought and our framers
00:31:57.940
thought. And so that's where this question about truth and falsehood comes from.
00:32:04.260
Is it true? Let me just ask you, especially there are plenty of liberals and left-wingers who watch the
00:32:08.220
show. Let me just ask you, do you really think, when we're talking about trans or whether we're
00:32:14.200
talking about marriage, do you really think men and women are exactly the same? So similar that
00:32:24.220
a union of two men is the exact same as the union of two women? Is the exact same as the union of a
00:32:33.340
man and a woman? Do you really think that? Do you really, well, I just don't care. I just want people
00:32:38.400
to do it. That's not what I asked. That's not what I asked. What do you think? It's just us gals.
00:32:46.740
It's just you and me. Come on. It's just you and me. What do you think? You know it's not. You know
00:32:53.160
it's not. Well, it doesn't mean that I want to enforce it in the line. Hold on. You know it's not
00:33:00.460
true. You know it's a lie. You think it's some kind of noble lie. You think it's some kind of
00:33:06.600
comforting lie, but it's a lie nonetheless. Let's go further. Do you think it's good to enshrine lies
00:33:15.160
into our laws? What do you think? I just, I don't care. I don't. What do you think? No, probably not,
00:33:26.040
right? Probably not. Well, what's the worst that could go wrong? Well, okay, here's one example.
00:33:31.680
Christian parents who take in these orphans that who no one else wants to take in,
00:33:36.040
they're told they can't anymore because the state will discriminate against them and force them to
00:33:40.440
stop being Christian if they want to keep their kids. That's like one example of how things go
00:33:45.520
wrong when you enshrine lies into law. Women getting raped in bathrooms by men who are allowed to go in
00:33:50.860
there. That's another thing that goes wrong when we enshrine lies into laws. Girls losing their
00:33:55.080
scholarships and their trophies when we allow men to compete against them in sports and we pretend
00:33:59.280
they're all the same. That's another thing that goes wrong. A mass increase in anxiety, depression,
00:34:05.600
and suicidality as we encourage the LGBT LMNOP identity with a special focus on the T. That's
00:34:10.820
another thing that goes wrong. Suicide rates remaining practically the same before and after
00:34:15.580
the transgender procedures that destroy people's bodies. That's another thing that, need I go on?
00:34:20.880
Need I go on? Because we could be here all day. I think most people know the truth. I think most
00:34:29.700
people know, even if they don't want to admit it, like my left-wing comedian friend on that show
00:34:34.360
in the part that was cut out. I know most people don't want to admit it. I think most people know
00:34:40.100
that a man can't really be a woman. Most people know that there's something a little bit odd
00:34:44.580
about, you know, a couple of fellas or a couple of chicks. And it's a little bit weird, right? It's
00:34:50.420
not, let's just say not exactly the same as a man and a woman. I think most people know that.
00:34:55.820
The only question is, will you have the courage of your convictions to actually say the thing that
00:35:01.600
you know to be true and further to behave that way in public and in politics and put that into the
00:35:09.920
law, put truth into the law instead of lies? Will you have the courage to do that? That's the question.
00:35:17.720
Here's a little warning if your answer to that part is no.
00:35:21.760
The other people will have the courage to put lies into the law. The other people will have the
00:35:27.000
courage to try to force you to lie. The other people will have the courage, a dubious kind of
00:35:31.960
courage, but a courage nonetheless, to force you to renounce your faith if you want to perform an act
00:35:36.580
of charity. They will do it. So someone's going to, someone's going to do it. Is it going to be you
00:35:43.760
on the side of the good stuff and the true stuff, or is it going to be the other side? But it's,
00:35:48.360
it's inevitable that there's going to be some moral framework in the law because it's going to be
00:35:54.360
inevitable that people care because you're human beings and we're social creatures and we're inclined
00:35:58.160
to live in society. So we care. That's just, that's how it works. Speaking of moral issues
00:36:02.280
and the rainbow stuff, even the liberal media admitting some good news from the Supreme Court
00:36:08.220
on a so-called, this is a really loaded phrase, conversion therapy.
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Do not miss it. Go to dailywire.com and join today. My favorite comment on Friday is from
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the Drummer's Workshop, Norm's Music. Wow, of course. How many, we should do an analysis.
00:36:52.520
What percentage of my favorite comments? Because I don't really look at the names generally.
00:36:56.540
I just pick my favorite comment. What percentage of them are from this one commenter,
00:37:01.260
among the zillions of comments on these videos, this one, the Drummer's Workshop,
00:37:05.060
Norm's Music, who says, in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. In 2025, Trump should receive the
00:37:11.900
Nobel Prize. That's true. It's a near rhyme. It's at least asinant. That's a good one. NPR is admitting
00:37:18.180
that conservatives are probably about to win a big case at the Supreme Court. Remember I told you
00:37:24.980
a week or two ago, I said the Supreme Court is hearing this case on so-called conversion therapy.
00:37:30.240
There's this Christian therapist in Colorado. It's always Colorado for some reason. She's there
00:37:36.520
and patients come to her and they say, I have these unwanted sexual urges and intrusive thoughts
00:37:42.800
and desires and stuff. And I want ways of coping with them. And she's not allowed to help them
00:37:49.880
because there's a ban on so-called conversion therapy. And what's weird about this is if a
00:37:57.220
patient went in and said, hey, I'm straight, but I want to be gay. I don't know. They'd probably put
00:38:04.560
it differently. They'd say, hey, they'd probably phrase it in this really liberal way. They'd say,
00:38:08.880
hey, I'm in a bourgeois and oppressive romantic construct. And I want to explore my sexuality and
00:38:16.720
my identity. And I don't know, whatever. That's what they say. But the bottom line would be,
00:38:20.700
if a patient walked into a shrink and said, I want to go from straight to gay,
00:38:24.720
there would be nothing wrong with that. I'll put it in even more concrete terms.
00:38:29.500
If a boy walked into the shrink and said, I want to be a girl. I think I am a girl.
00:38:35.440
There would be nothing wrong with the shrink saying, okay, Sally, well, let's explore that.
00:38:39.600
What color dresses do you like? But if patients walked in and wanted to
00:38:44.580
go the other way, that would be illegal. The psychologist could lose his or her license.
00:38:51.820
Which means that there's no ban on conversion therapy. Boy can walk into a shrink and say,
00:38:57.900
I want to be a girl. And the shrink not only can convert him, but is actually kind of obligated
00:39:03.700
to convert him. So that conversion therapy is totally fine. It's just the other kind of conversion.
00:39:08.980
Converting in the other direction, you're not allowed to do. Which is obviously viewpoint
00:39:13.480
discrimination. And even NPR is admitting this. Even NPR covering the oral arguments in the Supreme
00:39:18.420
Court case says, Supreme Court seems highly doubtful of limits on conversion therapy for minors.
00:39:25.220
So just the highlights here. This evangelical therapist in Colorado says that her free speech
00:39:33.400
rights are being violated because she's not allowed to give advice in one direction,
00:39:37.880
but she is in the other direction. Justice Alito, very solid, maybe the most solid guy on the court,
00:39:43.980
says, this looks like blatant viewpoint discrimination, as we just said.
00:39:49.840
That was the conservative read. I think if you're even semi-literate, you have to recognize it's
00:39:55.280
obviously viewpoint discrimination. Now, what is viewpoint discrimination? It's what it sounds like.
00:39:59.840
It's when you favor, you permit one viewpoint to the exclusion of other viewpoints in public life,
00:40:08.440
which according to our present jurisprudence, you're not allowed to do. There's actually a
00:40:12.480
deeper discussion about that and what viewpoint discrimination even means. And I take it on
00:40:16.120
a lot in my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which you can get wherever great
00:40:22.360
books are sold. But in any case, according to the law, as it is now, you're not allowed to have
00:40:27.100
viewpoint discrimination. And Alito says, this looks like viewpoint discrimination.
00:40:32.280
Ketanji Jackson, who is the Supreme Court justice who was befuddled by Senator Blackburn's
00:40:39.060
question, what is a woman, during her confirmation hearing. She said, I'm not a biologist. She laughed.
00:40:43.480
She said, I don't know what a woman is. She's two degrees from Harvard. Ketanji Jackson disagreed with
00:40:50.340
Alito. I'm not sure if she was able to form a coherent sentence or argument, but she disagreed with
00:40:55.260
him in any case. And she's on the side of the ban, according to the reporting. However,
00:41:02.180
this isn't just a conservatives on one side, liberals on the other side issue.
00:41:05.420
Even Justice Elena Kagan, who was dean of Harvard Law School, who is a huge lib,
00:41:10.240
but is intelligent at least. She seems to be on the side of Alito here and on the side of the
00:41:18.740
evangelical therapist who says this is viewpoint discrimination. She said, quote,
00:41:22.180
let's just assume that we're in a normal free speech land rather than in this kind of doctor
00:41:26.460
land. And if a doctor says, I know you identify as gay, and I'm going to help you accept that.
00:41:30.940
And another doctor says, I know you identify as gay, and I'm going to help you change that.
00:41:35.020
And one of those is permissible and the other is not. That seems like viewpoint discrimination.
00:41:40.060
Almost the exact scenario that I just mentioned.
00:41:43.080
The reason I love this story is, one, it's good for the law. It's good for a conservative
00:41:53.440
culture. It's good for the rights of therapists. It's good for the rights of patients, for that
00:41:56.800
matter. But also, you know how much I hate to say I told you so? I called this one years ago,
00:42:03.640
years ago, when all, even the conservatives were saying, well, I oppose, I'm certainly opposed to
00:42:08.320
conversion therapy. They thought it was like Mike Pence hooking you up with electrodes to,
00:42:12.360
you know, a car battery or something. I don't know, whatever the libs made us think it was.
00:42:15.760
And I thought about, even the phrase for a second, I said, wait, wait, this is obviously a
00:42:21.840
polemical, stupid slogan because all therapy is conversion therapy. Because the whole point of
00:42:30.420
therapy, maybe not how it's actually practiced, but the whole point in principle is that you go in
00:42:35.400
to change your ideas and behavior. You say, I have ideas and behavior that are distressing me.
00:42:42.360
And I'm going to go see this psychologist to change them, to convert from one set of ideas
00:42:47.520
and behavior to another. So if you were actually to outlaw so-called conversion therapy,
00:42:52.420
you would be outlawing the practice of clinical psychology, which is why it's simply a political
00:42:58.940
slogan. It's just a polemical phrase. And it looks like that phrase has outrun its usefulness.
00:43:05.300
You know, Steven Pinker at Harvard, he has this phrase that he coined, the euphemism treadmill,
00:43:13.260
where he says, we have all of these terms that we use, these happy, clappy slogans,
00:43:18.900
not merely to soften harsh truths, like you call an old woman, you call her a lady of a certain age.
00:43:24.680
You know, that's not a lie. It's just kind of softening a harsh truth. You don't call her an
00:43:28.200
old hag or something. But with the left, they use these euphemisms to lie about the truth.
00:43:36.940
So they'll say, you know, a criminal is a justice-involved person. That's the opposite
00:43:40.260
of what it is. They'll call a man a trans woman. That's not softening a truth. That's just lying,
00:43:46.040
right? That's the opposite of it. And the same thing here, conversion therapy.
00:43:50.360
This is trying, it's not a euphemism. It's sort of the opposite of a euphemism. It's a
00:43:55.260
disphemism. It's a, you know, it's trying to make a reality seem worse than it actually is.
00:44:01.800
But it's run out because eventually people figure out what the score is. They say, hold on,
00:44:07.140
an undocumented dreamer, future American, whatever. They're actually, it's just like a
00:44:12.320
face-tattooed gangster. It's an illegal alien. Oh, huh. And then you have to come up with a new
00:44:15.880
euphemism. Well, they're going to have to come up with a new disphemism here. They're going to have
00:44:20.000
to come up with a new scare slogan because I think people realize that the jig is up.
00:44:25.420
Now, speaking of dubious laws, I love this. I cannot go before I get to this one.
00:44:30.200
Gavin Newsom, Patrick Bateman himself over there in California wants to be the next Democrat nominee
00:44:34.280
for president. Newsom is trying, he's doing this schizophrenia act. Speaking of psychological
00:44:40.820
conditions, he's doing the schizophrenia act where on the one hand, he wants to seem like the moderate.
00:44:46.900
He's going to be the Bill Clinton figure in this race as the left has gone so woke.
00:44:50.820
And so he's going to try to be friends with Charlie Kirk. He's going to try to be friends
00:44:53.840
with Steve Bannon. He's going to reach across the aisle and have conversations. That's one side.
00:44:59.420
Then on the other side, he's going to, through his press office, justify the potential assassination
00:45:06.780
of Stephen Miller by calling him the same phrase that Charlie Kirk's killer called him.
00:45:11.780
You're a fascist. On the other hand, he's going to be the mayor of San Francisco who performs so-called
00:45:18.300
gay marriages before it's legal. He's going to be this super lib. So what is he? Is he the moderate?
00:45:24.440
Is he the super lib? He's trying to have it both ways because he knows he can't win the primary if
00:45:28.400
he's not a super lib, but he can't win the general if he's not a moderate at this point because the
00:45:32.800
left has gone so far and the right has taken over the common sense. Sometimes political radicals
00:45:38.100
actually can win general elections, but for the left right now, that can't happen because they've
00:45:41.660
ceded so much of the culture, so much of the center ground, so many of the demographics that
00:45:45.560
they used to rely on. Okay, so what is Newsom doing now? He's done the moderate thing a little bit.
00:45:49.800
Now he's trying to bolster his left-wing bona fides. He has signed a law creating an office of
00:45:56.680
reparations for slavery in California. A couple years ago, he got this ball rolling. There were going
00:46:02.820
to be reparations for slavery. Now, mind you, there is currently no program for reparations for
00:46:08.460
slavery, but there is now an office to distribute the reparations that don't exist for the program
00:46:14.740
that does not exist. That's not even the funniest part. The funniest part is, I don't know how many
00:46:22.400
of you are history buffs. California was admitted to the union as a free state.
00:46:31.140
There was never slavery in the state of California. Furthermore, California, go dig back to your ninth
00:46:39.660
grade history. California was admitted to the union in the compromise of 1850. The admission of
00:46:48.100
California to the union was one of the chief causes of the civil war, which was fought not entirely,
00:46:55.560
but to a significant degree to abolish slavery over the question of slavery.
00:47:02.200
If there is one place on earth, not just in America, on earth, that should not feel any historical
00:47:11.040
guilt or responsibility for slavery, it is the state of California. So of course,
00:47:15.740
they lead the country in establishing an office for reparations. You couldn't make it up. A Hollywood
00:47:23.640
screenwriter in California could not make it up. For Newsom, the profound ignorance that it would take
00:47:34.280
to do this, or the profound cynicism and low estimation of his own constituents, which is worse.
00:47:42.200
I don't know. I don't know. But ignorance is a cause of slavery. Ignorance and lack of discipline,
00:47:48.160
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