The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1836 - BREAKING： Gen Z De-Gays Itself

00:00:00.000 A new study out of the UK shows that queer identity is in freefall among young people.

00:00:06.420 For reaction, we turn now to the official Michael Knowles Show Gen Z correspondent.

00:00:11.920 I'm not gay no more.

00:00:15.020 Really surprising turn of events for the Libs, who believed the relentless lavender propaganda

00:00:21.360 of the last decade about men becoming women and gender affirmation and non-binary identities.

00:00:28.820 They're really surprised by this, but it's an even more surprising turn of events for skittish

00:00:35.740 conservatives who seem to have forgotten the essential consolation of conservative political

00:00:41.200 philosophy, which is that on a long enough time scale, reality eventually reasserts itself

00:00:47.800 every time.

00:00:48.880 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:00:49.640 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:58.820 Welcome back to the show.

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00:02:08.100 This study is just a delight.

00:02:11.260 This is out of the University of Buckingham.

00:02:13.720 Eric Kaufman is the author.

00:02:15.980 Here's the executive summary.

00:02:17.720 We got all sorts of charts and graphs and numbers.

00:02:20.780 But here's the executive summary.

00:02:22.540 After surging in the 20 teens and 20s, trans and queer identities are in decline among young Americans.

00:02:30.560 For a while there, they were just skyrocketing.

00:02:33.220 Every time you open the news, it was 5%, 10%, 25%, 30% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ.

00:02:41.380 And now, after that massive surge, you know, it went from one in four, maybe more, to one in three, maybe me.

00:02:48.440 Now, it seems to be declining.

00:02:51.480 The transgender share among university students peaked in 2023 and has almost halved since, from nearly 7% to under 4%.

00:03:01.860 Some of us have been suggesting that maybe the transgender identity is a social contagion and it's not some deeply rooted essential or biological aspect of identity.

00:03:15.280 You know, the libs have always said, no, no, no.

00:03:16.320 Now, the reason that the number of trans-identifying students keeps increasing is because people now feel liberated to come out of the closet and express their true selves.

00:03:27.560 And some of us have said, I'm kind of skeptical of that.

00:03:31.080 I think it's just like a lot of people never even thought that this was a thing and then they're introduced to this idea and then some of them go along with it because of mimesis, because of the fact that we imitate each other and we're social creatures and that's how social contagions take hold. 0.77

00:03:47.140 That's kind of what we thought.

00:03:48.580 Looks like the data are now backing that up.

00:03:50.980 The study finds the share of students identifying as not heterosexual fell by around 10 points in the same period.

00:03:58.820 And not heterosexual is a weird category.

00:04:00.600 I actually had a friend in college who, I remember this, this guy would, he would pick up chicks.

00:04:07.680 You know, he was, he was, other than some of his fashion choices by all, all signs was a straight guy, but he identified as non-heterosexual.

00:04:18.120 And to my knowledge, he never did any weird stuff with dudes or anything, but he identified as not heterosexual because, I don't know, in the late 2000s and 20 teens, that was cool.

00:04:29.300 That was fashionable.

00:04:30.680 It was kind of, it was square to be straight.

00:04:33.440 You know, weirdly, I don't know, maybe he thought it would help him pick up chicks or something, but it's very hard to pin down what that means.

00:04:39.800 In any case, that identity has dropped precipitously.

00:04:44.440 10 points, same period.

00:04:45.600 The decline in the non-heterosexual share is concentrated in the queer or other sexual categories and, to a lesser extent, bisexuality.

00:04:56.200 Okay, so you're seeing a decline in all those groups.

00:04:58.540 Today's freshmen are less BTQ+, so not the L, forget about the LG.

00:05:06.600 The lesbians and gays are basically flat, but the bisexual, trans, and queer+, all the rest of the alphabet, the freshmen are much less likely to be that than the seniors are, suggesting that the decline will continue.

00:05:18.300 Who knows next year's freshmen?

00:05:19.680 Who knows the freshmen after that?

00:05:20.940 Probably you're going to see more of a decline.

00:05:22.620 The decline in BTQ+, identification does not appear to be connected to lower social media use, religious revival, a shift to the political right, or lower support for woke ideology.

00:05:34.080 So it's not just that more kids coming into school are Catholic.

00:05:40.100 It's not just that more kids coming into school are, you know, hardline, rock-ribbed Southern Baptists, or MAGA people, or that they've put the Instagram away.

00:05:52.060 And it's that TikTok that's, in fact, it doesn't appear to be correlated with any of that.

00:05:56.460 It seems to be a broader social trend that the Lavender Mafia, at least the BTQ+, part of it, is just declining generally.

00:06:06.880 Finally, there is evidence that improved mental health has reduced BTQ+, identification, which is kind of redundant.

00:06:15.180 Yes.

00:06:16.040 I don't know if you're allowed to say it, even today on social media. 1.00

00:06:18.560 But, yeah, if you're a guy who thinks you're a chick, you have mental issues by definition.

00:06:25.020 So if you are more mentally stable, if you have better mental health, then you're much less likely to deal with all of those social pathologies.

00:06:33.880 Okay.

00:06:34.020 Now, if you dig into this study of all the charts and everything here, the real focus is not on the L or the G, or even on the T.

00:06:44.180 It's more on the Q, on the Q part, queer, which is that catch-all, specifically non-binary. 0.88

00:06:50.100 If you look here, and they compile numbers from Andover, from FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Education, Brown, a couple of other organizations.

00:07:01.680 And you're seeing it broadly across these organizations.

00:07:04.820 Share not identifying as male or female per FIRE.

00:07:08.520 You know, various sexual orientation, gender identity.

00:07:13.440 Even here, let's just look at FIRE's numbers.

00:07:16.120 For straight, it's pretty flat.

00:07:17.820 Straight, back in 2020, was 80-plus percent.

00:07:20.700 Then it dipped a little bit during the apotheosis.

00:07:25.120 And then it kind of came back up in 2025.

00:07:27.820 People are straight again. 0.97

00:07:29.100 And if you look at bisexual, it's pretty much flat. 1.00

00:07:33.200 Up a little bit and down.

00:07:35.060 Gay, lesbian, pretty much flat. 1.00

00:07:37.540 If you look at queer, that's the one that was lower. 1.00

00:07:40.180 It peaked, and then it declined.

00:07:43.440 Queer, non-binary. 1.00

00:07:45.760 Why is that one in particular seeming to lead the way?

00:07:49.780 I'll tell you exactly why.

00:07:52.180 Because the non-binary, genderqueer, queer generally identity, is the least sensual of the sexual gender identities that have become fashionable in the last 10 years.

00:08:05.320 The other ones, if you're gay, if you're lesbian, if you're bisexual, if you're transsexual, trans whatever, those are all much more physical. 0.80

00:08:16.600 What does it mean to be gay? 0.79

00:08:18.020 It means you're a dude who likes doing certain things with other guys. 0.89

00:08:20.640 If you're a lesbian, it means you're a lady who likes Birkenstocks and Subaru cars. 1.00

00:08:25.460 Now, it means that you, you know, ostensibly like doing physical things with other women. 0.82

00:08:31.240 If you're transgender, you like the idea of your body as being the opposite sex. 1.00

00:08:35.700 It's very sense-based.

00:08:38.700 You know, it's very sensual.

00:08:39.680 It's very physical.

00:08:40.680 It corresponds more to physical desire.

00:08:44.040 The non-binary ideology is just an abstraction.

00:08:49.440 What does that mean?

00:08:51.080 You're totally abstracting away from desire, from physical activity, from sex.

00:08:55.440 You're just basically saying, I'm androgynous. 0.64

00:08:57.200 I'm like a big gray blob or whatever.

00:09:00.140 So, it's all the same ideology.

00:09:03.720 The ideology that says that your physical body has nothing to do with your true self and your true self has nothing to do with how you ought to comport yourself.

00:09:11.620 It's all the same ideology.

00:09:14.040 But I'm not at all surprised that the more abstract version is leading the way in the freefall.

00:09:20.380 And that the trans and the queer and the L and the G are lagging a little bit behind, even if they're going to go in the same direction. 0.99

00:09:27.680 Of course, the idea is bankrupt.

00:09:31.260 Sometimes people just develop physical habits or physical addictions even or physical inclinations that are tougher to break.

00:09:39.520 But the idea, the ideology, the abstraction, totally in freefall.

00:09:42.960 I'm also, just to put a final point on it, I'm not surprised that this is collapsing, that the trans is basically over. 1.00

00:09:53.300 I predicted it at CPAC in 2023, 2022, 2023.

00:09:58.080 I said, look, there's no compromising with this.

00:10:00.460 It's either true or it's false, and it happens to be false.

00:10:02.500 And so, the ideology has to be eradicated from public life entirely for the good of everyone, for the good of society.

00:10:07.800 Also, especially for the good of the people who have fallen prey to this confusion because it's really bad for them.

00:10:11.600 It's fake, it's false, and we just have to acknowledge that and move on.

00:10:16.100 That is what has happened.

00:10:18.140 That has happened because the gods of the copy book headings rear their heads again.

00:10:25.140 Are you familiar with this poem?

00:10:26.920 You know Rudyard Kipling, he's great.

00:10:28.220 He's the one who wrote the poem about how much he loves cigars, and he said, a woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke. 0.94

00:10:32.360 He's a great, wonderful poet, British poet, and there's a very famous poem he wrote.

00:10:36.640 I'm going to read you two stanzas.

00:10:38.520 This is going to make you feel the conservative consolation.

00:10:43.320 In this world that is always shooting arrows at us, this is a great consolation.

00:10:47.700 As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper prostrations to the gods of the marketplace.

00:10:54.720 Peering through reverent fingers, I watch them flourish and fall, and the gods of the copy book headings, I notice, outlast them all.

00:11:01.140 The gods of the copy book headings, those maxims that we just hold to be true throughout all ages, throughout cultures, they just keep coming back.

00:11:09.320 You know, the old wisdom of old women, say. 1.00

00:11:12.300 Then the gods, skip down a few stanzas.

00:11:14.360 Then the gods of the market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew.

00:11:20.320 And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true, that all is not gold that glitters, and two and two make four.

00:11:28.900 And the gods of the copy book headings limped up to explain it once more.

00:11:34.000 Those smooth-tongued wizards feeding the marketplace, you know, of fashions and fads, they were found wanting.

00:11:43.560 And the gods of the copy book headings had to explain to people that two plus two equals four again.

00:11:47.300 And, you know, actually, men and women are different.

00:11:50.300 And a man can't become a woman. 0.99

00:11:52.480 And those things that are always true everywhere, they're still true.

00:11:55.680 And no matter how hard you try to pretend otherwise, no matter what force, sheer tyranny of will you impose upon us to make us say it, it won't be true.

00:12:05.920 And on a long enough time scale, you're going to lose.

00:12:07.840 In this case, it took about five years.

00:12:09.620 Now, speaking of medical issues, Cheryl Hines, the wife of Bobby Kennedy Jr., just completely destroyed the ladies of The View. 1.00

00:12:16.100 We'll get to that in one moment.

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00:13:29.940 Cheryl Hines.

00:13:32.020 Better known, even than she is as Bobby Kennedy's wife,

00:13:34.460 she's better known as Larry David's wife on Curb Your Enthusiasm. 0.92

00:13:38.240 And Larry David, who is to the left of Lenin,

00:13:40.400 is just absolutely furious at any Republican over the last decade at least.

00:13:47.060 Cheryl Hines goes on The View with all of her old gal pals from the Hollywood circles.

00:13:52.980 And they're furious at her because her husband,

00:13:55.340 who used to be very popular in Hollywood circles,

00:13:57.600 Democrat Bobby Kennedy, is supporting the evil orange man

00:14:01.200 who keeps making our country better and bringing about world peace.

00:14:03.420 They hate her for it.

00:14:06.400 And so they really, they're going to put the screws to her.

00:14:10.100 And one of their biggest issues is that Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:14:16.400 is sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong,

00:14:19.480 and he is compromising our precious big pharma.

00:14:26.480 Even baby formula, now we're finding out there's arsenic, there's lead.

00:14:31.200 So the question is, who is running HHS when they allowed lead and arsenic in a baby formula?

00:14:39.120 How is that person not dangerous?

00:14:40.040 Well, two wrongs don't make a right.

00:14:41.440 No!

00:14:42.020 Well, I'm saying Bobby is the one getting this out.

00:14:45.700 I know, well, good for him.

00:14:47.180 Thank you.

00:14:49.140 Can we clear one thing before you go?

00:14:50.720 Yes.

00:14:51.760 Okay.

00:14:52.980 Joy Behar, that's not even the best clip from the show.

00:14:55.260 Joy Behar, it's like, you know, two wrongs don't make a right.

00:15:00.940 That's her answer to Cheryl Hines saying, hey, Bobby Kennedy got into this job, 1.00

00:15:04.520 and he's noticing that there's a bunch of poison in our food and in our medicine

00:15:07.480 and stuff that really shouldn't be there.

00:15:09.380 And so she goes, yeah, yeah, but two wrongs don't make it right.

00:15:15.100 Cheryl Hines goes, what are you talking about two wrongs? 0.96

00:15:18.980 He's getting the poison out.

00:15:22.460 And Joy Behar goes, yeah, yeah, well, good for him.

00:15:24.420 She doesn't know what to say.

00:15:26.400 On this issue in particular, on all issues pertaining to science,

00:15:31.900 the left really doesn't know what to say when you challenge them on it.

00:15:36.260 Because they take it as a maxim, as an axiom, that the science is on their side,

00:15:42.920 and any time a conservative or a Republican or even a lifelong Democrat

00:15:46.820 who happens to be working for a Republican, Bobby Kennedy,

00:15:49.260 any time they intervene in any way in medical science, that they have to be wrong.

00:15:55.580 Right?

00:15:55.760 That's, but, and this is part of the parties, you know,

00:16:00.420 switching the coalitions, kind of moving about here,

00:16:03.000 is it used to be that the anti-big pharma people were all on the left.

00:16:06.040 Now they happen to be on the right.

00:16:07.020 It used to be that the big corporate shills were all on the right.

00:16:09.340 Now they happen to be on the left.

00:16:10.480 And this is confusing people like Joy Behar.

00:16:13.600 So Behar goes, yeah, well, your husband is just doing stuff in pharma,

00:16:17.260 and that has to be bad.

00:16:19.020 And Cheryl Hines goes, well, he's getting arsenic out of baby food. 1.00

00:16:23.800 She goes, yeah, well, okay, I mean, yeah, good for him.

00:16:25.900 That's fine.

00:16:26.240 She doesn't know how to handle that.

00:16:27.640 But it's true on any medical issue, the trans thing, obviously,

00:16:31.160 as we were just discussing.

00:16:33.020 But really all of them, this is a real blind spot for the left,

00:16:36.920 is they believe their own press releases. 1.00

00:16:40.160 They really think that the right-wingers are complete idiots, 1.00

00:16:43.420 just totally ignorant when it comes to matters of science. 1.00

00:16:46.620 They think people who are politically conservative, 1.00

00:16:49.140 especially religious, are just total dolts. 0.94

00:16:52.200 And that, you know, it's the atheists and the secularists 0.98

00:16:54.920 and the liberals who have really led the way.

00:16:56.640 And that isn't true.

00:16:57.380 It's really funny when you point out, you say, you know,

00:17:00.440 like the Catholics, for instance, have discovered, like,

00:17:04.900 every single thing that's ever been discovered.

00:17:06.760 You know, like, even you guys, like, the Big Bang, for instance,

00:17:11.220 you're, yeah, there was a Catholic priest who theorized the Big Bang.

00:17:14.660 You're like, modern genetics, Mendel, actually, you know,

00:17:17.920 is the father of modern genetics.

00:17:19.240 You, Copernicus was, I think he was in a third order of a religious order.

00:17:24.020 Like, the list goes on and on and on.

00:17:27.180 What are you people talking about?

00:17:28.660 And so she doesn't know.

00:17:29.300 She's really weak on this.

00:17:31.060 Then, when they can't argue on the substance,

00:17:35.140 they have to go back to credentialism.

00:17:36.620 And this is where Cheryl Hines really knocks it out of the park. 1.00

00:17:39.840 The libs think they have her. 1.00

00:17:41.600 They say, well, your husband,

00:17:42.840 who's the Secretary of Health and Human Services,

00:17:44.760 doesn't have a doctorate.

00:17:47.120 I just, I do want to say,

00:17:50.340 you know he's not a doctor and he's not a professional.

00:17:53.920 Yes.

00:17:54.340 And oftentimes when he's talking,

00:17:58.260 oftentimes when he's speaking,

00:18:00.980 he is speaking not with the best information that we can get.

00:18:06.740 Because, you know, give you pause and are you able to say,

00:18:10.140 you know, that might not actually be so.

00:18:13.200 Because I've got my experience and I've lived with this.

00:18:16.620 And I'm still here.

00:18:18.220 So are you able to have those conversations with her?

00:18:21.440 I am able to have those conversations.

00:18:23.380 And just to be clear,

00:18:25.380 90% of secretaries of HHS have not been doctors.

00:18:31.840 But they've had a science background.

00:18:33.020 There have been three.

00:18:33.360 Yeah.

00:18:34.040 No, to be honest.

00:18:35.000 One of Obama's secretaries of HHS was an economist.

00:18:42.440 But most,

00:18:43.140 the majority of them that haven't had medical backgrounds

00:18:45.480 have had a science background.

00:18:46.620 Wait, don't do anything else.

00:18:47.980 Don't say anything else yet.

00:18:49.580 Because I do want to...

00:18:50.260 Wait, wait, wait.

00:18:52.100 Don't say anything else.

00:18:53.480 Don't say anything else.

00:18:55.320 Because you just totally smacked down my point.

00:19:00.120 Yeah, well, look, your husband might be right.

00:19:02.360 And okay, fine.

00:19:03.140 It's like, I guess it's good to take arsenic out of baby food.

00:19:05.400 But like,

00:19:06.680 he doesn't have his PhD.

00:19:10.500 Yeah.

00:19:10.780 Basically, no secretaries of HHS have ever had a doctorate.

00:19:15.860 Huh.

00:19:16.420 And then, was it Sonny Hauston there was kind of prepared for that pushback a little bit

00:19:20.460 and said, yes, but they've all had, you know, some kind of medical expertise.

00:19:25.480 And first of all, Bobby Kennedy, as being a medical and environmental lawyer,

00:19:29.020 actually does have some expertise there.

00:19:30.640 But then Cheryl Hines comes back. 1.00

00:19:32.560 She goes, one of Obama's was an economist.

00:19:34.780 Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:19:36.080 Wait, we got to cut this off.

00:19:39.140 We're going to go to commercial right now.

00:19:41.040 Absolutely bodying.

00:19:43.300 Great stuff.

00:19:44.460 Great, great stuff.

00:19:45.320 Cheryl Hines just bodied those ladies on The View. 1.00

00:19:47.300 Now, speaking of HHS and bioethics,

00:19:49.640 a disturbing story that I've been meaning to get to for a few days now.

00:19:53.240 And the time is now.

00:19:56.960 Let's see.

00:19:58.240 Here we are.

00:19:59.960 National Post, story out of Canada.

00:20:01.720 American man gets heart from 38-year-old Ontario ALS patient.

00:20:06.180 Who died by MAID, Medical Assistance in Dying, also known as assisted suicide.

00:20:12.840 So Canada legalizes assisted suicide.

00:20:16.320 And people who have even a slightly functioning sense of morality immediately said,

00:20:21.620 well, this is really bad.

00:20:22.440 Assisted suicide is really, really bad.

00:20:24.520 It violates the Hippocratic Oath, first of all.

00:20:26.720 Hippocratic Oath begins, first, do no harm.

00:20:29.480 Assisted suicide harms, just immediately harms, because it kills people.

00:20:33.660 And also, it's going to lead to all of these terrible outcomes.

00:20:36.440 It's going to pressure old people who, many, many old people feel like a burden on their families,

00:20:41.060 and they are more prone to depression and to despair.

00:20:43.960 It's going to encourage a lot of them to kill themselves when they should not kill themselves.

00:20:47.900 They should be loved and cherished in their old age and have a sense of dignity and not be permitted,

00:20:52.280 or certainly not encouraged, to fall into despair.

00:20:54.180 But it's not just old people.

00:20:56.660 It's going to be people who have serious illnesses.

00:20:59.800 They're not going to persevere.

00:21:01.560 They're not going to, even as they suffer, recognize that suffering is a part of the human condition

00:21:06.100 and be an example of how to suffer.

00:21:09.460 And I believe, at least, suffering is sanctifying.

00:21:12.380 But at the very least, I think we have to acknowledge suffering is an inescapable part of the human condition.

00:21:19.540 And if we seek to eliminate suffering, ultimately, we're going to eliminate human life.

00:21:26.380 And you have seen this because it's not just people who have some terribly painful degenerative illness

00:21:30.960 who, you know, you can say with nearly 100% certainty will never recover

00:21:37.460 and will be in excruciating pain toward the end, even though we have good palliative care now.

00:21:40.920 But all of a sudden, it starts to creep back.

00:21:43.500 Now it's adults who don't have, say, Lou Gehrig's disease.

00:21:46.160 It's adults with depression, adults with, I don't know, an eating disorder, say,

00:21:52.220 who they say, I'm going to kill myself.

00:21:53.480 And the Canadian government says, that's okay.

00:21:55.340 Then it's teenagers in certain parts of the world.

00:21:59.740 Then it's the mentally handicapped. 0.93

00:22:02.720 Then it's all of a sudden, this is getting really, really dark.

00:22:08.160 Now we're harvesting the organs from these people.

00:22:10.600 Now, and we've had conversations on this show about the organ donation market for a long time.

00:22:19.360 Lots of dubious ethics in the medical donation because it's reliant upon this scientific concept of brain,

00:22:27.360 not even, it's an ideological concept of brain death, which really doesn't come about until the 1960s or so.

00:22:32.480 And brain death is dubious because often what happens in the case of medical harvesting of organs is it's not that the person dies and then you harvest the organs and you donate them to someone else.

00:22:41.760 It's that the harvesting of the organs is what literally kills the person, which creates a lot of ethical problems.

00:22:48.860 In any case, an American man just received a heart from a 38-year-old Canadian who killed himself.

00:22:57.740 Is this the kind of market that we want to be encouraging?

00:23:04.140 I make jokes about Canada being America's evil top hat all the time. 0.99

00:23:07.620 I don't actually want to kill them all and harvest their organs. 0.99

00:23:11.560 That's a bridge too far. 0.97

00:23:14.580 That's taking the joke a little bit too far, wouldn't you say?

00:23:18.500 Okay, if most people, I guess they're going to be liberals who say, no, it's fine.

00:23:22.940 It's good.

00:23:23.300 This man had a disease and he made the choice to kill himself and because the only moral criterion of liberalism is consent, then he has the right to do that because liberalism presumes the idea of self-ownership, the idea that we own ourselves, which is not true.

00:23:39.320 Not true at all.

00:23:42.280 Because of all of that, they're going to say, well, this is fine.

00:23:44.760 What's wrong with it?

00:23:45.200 Now an American man gets a heart out of it.

00:23:46.440 I don't know.

00:23:46.960 I think more people though, the conservatives and the moderates are going to say, hey, suicide is bad and we shouldn't encourage it and we definitely shouldn't be profiting from it.

00:23:59.500 And we shouldn't open up markets in the organs of the people we've encouraged through the law to kill themselves in other countries.

00:24:07.560 You see how this could go wrong real fast?

00:24:09.340 But it started with such good intentions.

00:24:13.360 I'm speaking to the kind of moderate conservative or liberal who said, ah, you know, grandpa really was having a hard go of it at the end there and maybe it's okay to have a medical assistance in dying, also known as suicide.

00:24:26.360 Maybe suicide's okay in some cases.

00:24:28.480 We just don't want to let it get too far.

00:24:30.200 We don't want to let the slippery slope, you know, slip down too far.

00:24:35.680 This was always there.

00:24:37.820 This was inevitable.

00:24:39.340 We were always in this place where if you make the Faustian bargain, if you compromise on moral issues, even for good intentions, this was inevitable.

00:24:56.600 MAID in Canada has existed for like five minutes so far.

00:24:59.560 We're already harvesting the suicide, suicide's organs.

00:25:03.340 Not good.

00:25:03.760 I think we need to do something about that here.

00:25:05.820 Okay.

00:25:06.220 Now, you know how the government's shut down?

00:25:10.060 Yeah, a lot of people had forgotten.

00:25:11.660 Now we're starting to feel a little pain of it.

00:25:13.020 We are going to speak with the chairman of the Republican Study Committee momentarily.

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00:26:34.820 I am very pleased to be joined right now by Congressman August Pflueger from the great state of Texas, chairman of the Republican Study Committee, here to remind us, one, that the government is in fact shut down, and to get to what some of the consequences of that shutdown could be, notably on military readiness.

00:26:53.860 Congressman Pflueger, thank you for coming on the show.

00:26:57.740 Michael, thanks for having me, and thanks for highlighting these issues.

00:27:01.000 Unfortunately, we have to do that now.

00:27:02.460 So, Congressman, I know the conventional wisdom is Republicans get blamed for shutdowns.

00:27:08.540 Maybe that will happen in the long run, but of all the shutdowns that have happened in my lifetime, this one, I think, is most clearly owned by the Democrats.

00:27:16.760 The Republicans have unified government.

00:27:18.900 The Republicans offered a clean, continuing resolution just to keep the government going as other issues are ironed out.

00:27:25.220 This is exclusively a Democrat shutdown.

00:27:29.320 Now, Chuck Schumer believes that the longer the shutdown goes on, the better it is for Democrats.

00:27:34.520 He said that.

00:27:35.280 It's been reported now for days.

00:27:38.520 I think for most of us, we haven't really noticed the government shutdown.

00:27:41.480 And I think a lot of people would say, this is a good opportunity to fire some people and maybe shrink the government.

00:27:45.840 Okay.

00:27:45.960 Now, however, it seems to be impacting military readiness.

00:27:50.140 Tell us about that.

00:27:53.040 Well, you're right.

00:27:54.300 And I'll get to the military readiness just to answer your question, though.

00:27:57.560 I mean, you heard a senior Democrat aide say, until planes fall out of the sky, we're not going to open the government back up.

00:28:03.800 So they're owning it 100 percent.

00:28:05.860 And how disgusting of a comment that was.

00:28:08.980 We had a clean CR.

00:28:10.300 We did our job in the House.

00:28:11.600 And now Senate Democrats, under Chuck Schumer's distasteful leadership, have voted eight times to not fund the government, to not fund the military.

00:28:20.380 And I'm a veteran.

00:28:21.660 I flew combat missions in Iraq and Syria.

00:28:25.500 You know, I was on active duty during several shutdowns.

00:28:28.280 They hurt readiness.

00:28:28.960 They hurt your ability to focus on the threat, on the missions, because now commanders are having to worry about where their troops, their young enlisted and young officers, how they're going to put food on the table and take care of their families.

00:28:42.400 I mean, think about the soldier who's deployed right now with a young family, maybe a baby at home.

00:28:48.320 You know, a lot of our troops are on food stamps and they're worried about that.

00:28:52.900 They're not worried about doing the mission.

00:28:54.080 They're worried about taking care of their family and rightfully so.

00:28:56.100 So absolutely, it hurts mission readiness.

00:28:58.840 It hurts our focus and it hurts our national security.

00:29:01.440 The fact that troops are on food stamps is a national disgrace, frankly, that that needs to be addressed in a in a different way.

00:29:08.240 But on the point of of the paychecks, there is reporting out now that the military might miss a paycheck.

00:29:16.860 These military families who even, you know, even if they're not totally destitute, you know, they they they need those paychecks.

00:29:23.360 Is that going to happen?

00:29:26.280 What is the administration and Republicans in Congress?

00:29:28.700 What are they doing to prevent that?

00:29:29.980 And what are the Democrats have to say about it?

00:29:33.280 Well, we've seen recently where President Trump stepped up, did the right thing, told Secretary Higgs to find the money and to make sure that they get paid on the 15th of this month.

00:29:42.620 So, you know, that's that's a big deal that they did that because that has not happened in the past.

00:29:48.540 But they're taking money out of other pots, out of, you know, other sources where, you know, probably for operations and readiness and mission type money.

00:29:58.400 So it's not going to last forever.

00:29:59.580 However, you know, most most of our military personnel get paid on the 15th and at the end of the month.

00:30:06.940 So this isn't going to last forever.

00:30:08.840 If Democrats keep up this theater, which it is, make no mistake, this is political theater at its very worst, then they will miss a paycheck eventually.

00:30:17.560 I'd like to know where my Democrat colleagues are, those that served the veterans on the Democrat side.

00:30:23.360 Where are they?

00:30:23.840 Why are they not stepping up right now and rising above the noise and doing the right thing?

00:30:29.580 Because guess what?

00:30:31.280 When when Nancy Pelosi was speaker and when Joe Biden was president, Republicans didn't shut the government down.

00:30:38.340 And where are they?

00:30:40.140 Where are they right now?

00:30:41.800 Why are they not doing the right thing?

00:30:43.240 I'm so disappointed in them.

00:30:45.560 Are Democrats going to object to the Republicans who are trying to find money, you know, borrowing from Peter to pay Paul to make sure that the military actually are paid?

00:30:53.420 Are Democrats going to try to impede that?

00:30:56.080 I mean, can you imagine, you know, Chuck Schumer leading the charge saying that's illegal?

00:31:00.060 You can't pay the troops. 1.00

00:31:01.100 I mean, what what kind of idiot would do that? 1.00

00:31:04.100 But yeah, I mean, I would not put it past them. 1.00

00:31:06.380 I mean, this is exactly what Democrats do.

00:31:09.020 They you fix a problem and then they find another way to lie about it, to have deceit about it, to do something completely.

00:31:16.460 Well, I was going to say another word, but to do something that doesn't make any sense at all.

00:31:21.240 You know, listen, it's a family show.

00:31:22.560 We try to keep it clean.

00:31:23.620 And sometimes I'm tempted to, though.

00:31:25.060 So before I let you go, Congressman, how long is this going to go on for?

00:31:29.700 I mean, you know, the Republicans open up with we're going to have a clean CR.

00:31:32.940 So we're not trying to cram our stuff into this continuing resolution.

00:31:36.940 But Democrats wanted to cram their stuff in.

00:31:39.160 Notably, Republicans highlighted health care for illegal aliens.

00:31:42.000 But OK, fine.

00:31:43.300 You know, we're in this fight now.

00:31:45.160 What is the end of this fight?

00:31:46.460 If Chuck Schumer sincerely believes that the longer it goes on, the better it is for Democrats, then is it is the government going to reopen next week, the week after two months from now?

00:31:56.420 And whenever it does reopen, what's the deal going to be?

00:32:01.320 Well, first off, I think Mike Johnson is doing a great job.

00:32:05.980 We've done our job.

00:32:06.760 We voted to fund the government.

00:32:07.960 It's the simplest thing.

00:32:09.560 This was a Joe Biden signed budget or an auto pen signed budget.

00:32:13.720 You know, so this is a budget that Democrats already voted on.

00:32:17.660 So how do they now come to us and say, well, we can't vote on it now because, well, no, you actually this was this was Biden's budget.

00:32:23.800 So I think there's probably one of a couple of ways.

00:32:26.740 Number one, Senate Democrats need to get over their theater and just do the right thing. 0.98

00:32:32.720 And assuming that happens, the stalemate.

00:32:35.960 OK, so assuming that doesn't happen, they're conflating several things and they're putting these ACA premium subsidies in there.

00:32:42.340 They want us to fund illegal immigrants into health care, which we've said absolutely not. 0.99

00:32:46.480 I mean, these are hundreds of billions of dollars in waste.

00:32:48.540 So I think probably what ends up happening is President Trump will probably have to save the day and bring people together like he's done and make some sort of deal.

00:33:00.060 But let's make one thing clear that the prize for Democrats opening the government is not going to be ACA subsidies.

00:33:08.480 We will negotiate on things like that when we get the government open, but they're not going to hold us hostage like this and and laugh at the American people and say,

00:33:18.640 look, we just you know, we just did this political stunt and now we we get something out of it.

00:33:23.860 No, I'm sorry. But the American public is tired.

00:33:27.060 My district especially is just tired of the lies and tired of the games.

00:33:30.400 They want us to go to Washington and do what we said we were going to do, which is what has happened.

00:33:35.280 And I think this is the Democrats only shot to stop Donald Trump because he is the only president who has done everything he said he would do.

00:33:43.300 Yeah, there's this problem for the Dems, which is they keep saying the people are on our side and, you know, we're going to we're the resistance, the voice of the people.

00:33:50.880 But of course, the people voted for Trump and it wasn't it wasn't just that he won the Electoral College, which is ultimately all that matters.

00:33:55.820 He won the popular vote and the Republicans have the House and the Senate and the presidency.

00:34:01.140 And because they keep winning the presidency, they have the Supreme Court.

00:34:03.540 And just at a certain point, the Democrats probably need to get the message that most of the people are not on your side.

00:34:10.540 And I agree this is this is pretty desperate.

00:34:12.880 I also agree that you can't give in to the Democrats, especially on the on the health care stuff, because it just rewards them.

00:34:21.040 It gives them an incentive to do this kind of thing again.

00:34:23.260 It's a real thorny issue.

00:34:24.620 And I suspect you're right that the White House is going to have to step in and twist some arms and make some carrots and sticks. 0.85

00:34:31.200 Congressman Pflueger, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:34:34.920 Thanks for having me.

00:34:35.940 Appreciate it.

00:34:36.620 God bless.

00:34:37.620 All right.

00:34:37.820 We'll see.

00:34:38.060 Maybe we'll have Congressman Pflueger back on two months when this government is still shut down.

00:34:41.760 Okay, much more to say about assisted suicide, actually, even on the American side of it.

00:34:48.960 On a wonderful ceremony yesterday at the White House when my friend Charlie Kirk received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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00:35:24.100 My favorite comment yesterday is from MarthaC8529, who says,

00:35:27.600 I find it funny when Trump says stuff like, I was being a little cute, lol.

00:35:31.440 It's such an unassuming way of talking.

00:35:33.100 Yeah, I like it.

00:35:34.780 People, even on the right, have hated that since 2016, since he started running.

00:35:41.060 And that stuff doesn't bother me at all.

00:35:43.400 It's very familiar because it's not high-minded.

00:35:48.360 It's not abstract.

00:35:49.340 It doesn't require multiple degrees to know what Trump is doing.

00:35:51.980 He just talks like a New Yorker.

00:35:53.340 That's how New Yorkers talk.

00:35:54.260 And I think if more of the Republican establishment had just been familiar with that in 2016,

00:36:00.900 it would have saved us a lot of rancor.

00:36:02.720 Okay, turning to electoral politics on this issue of assisted suicide.

00:36:06.600 Here is Abigail Spanberger, the Democrat member of Congress who's now running for

00:36:11.420 a governor of Virginia.

00:36:13.300 Here is her take on assisted suicide.

00:36:16.180 Well, I support and I would support legislation that legalizes the right to die with dignity

00:36:22.740 of a person's choosing.

00:36:24.500 And that would include allowing for medical providers to provide prescriptions for life-ending

00:36:29.000 prescriptions in the cases of someone who's deemed medically competent to make that decision,

00:36:37.280 mentally competent to make that decision.

00:36:38.740 I oppose the ability of religious institutions to put their religious-based ideas on individuals

00:36:47.140 and their health care choices and options.

00:36:50.240 I believe that we should trust people to have relationships with their health care providers

00:36:56.520 that lead them to make strong decisions based on their medical practices.

00:37:00.380 And I do not believe that people should have the option to allow their own personal beliefs

00:37:06.560 to dictate the type of medical care that they are providing their patients.

00:37:10.760 What?

00:37:11.440 What was that last part?

00:37:12.720 I don't believe that doctors should let their beliefs impact the medical care they're providing.

00:37:17.560 What do you go to a doctor for?

00:37:19.940 You go to a doctor for his judgment, for his wisdom, because he is the expert,

00:37:25.000 because he knows something that you don't know.

00:37:27.220 What does that mean? 1.00

00:37:28.860 It's just some stupid liberal bromide. 1.00

00:37:31.900 I don't think that doctors should let their beliefs and thoughts impact what they do. 1.00

00:37:36.080 Well, then what the hell are you hiring them for?

00:37:38.480 Why?

00:37:39.060 I want them to advance my beliefs and thoughts.

00:37:41.800 Oh, okay, got it.

00:37:42.620 So it's not that you advance some kind of neutral, objective, liberated order.

00:37:48.940 You just think that your evil ideas should supersede the medical views of medical professionals

00:37:56.960 and the ethical views of medical professionals. 0.92

00:37:58.940 This is sick stuff. 1.00

00:38:00.240 This woman is a sick person, Abigail Spanberger. 0.99

00:38:03.000 She continues to endorse Jay Jones for attorney general. 0.99

00:38:05.640 I mean, they're essentially running on a ticket.

00:38:07.540 And Jay Jones is the one who was discovered to have been wishing for the murder of his Republican

00:38:12.340 opponent and the opponent's kids and said that the birth of those children was breeding 0.71

00:38:17.140 little fascists.

00:38:18.760 This woman supports that. 0.95

00:38:20.520 So at least she's consistent. 1.00

00:38:21.660 She supports killing babies in the womb. 1.00

00:38:23.060 She supports killing Republican babies outside of the womb. 1.00

00:38:25.460 And she supports killing grandma and people who are mentally ill and people who are sick 1.00

00:38:30.560 and people who are depressed. 1.00

00:38:32.040 So, okay, I guess she's consistent. 0.99

00:38:34.040 She wants to kill like everybody. 1.00

00:38:37.740 And this is the moderate. 0.98

00:38:40.040 That's what makes it interesting to me.

00:38:41.620 Not that the Democrats have evil views.

00:38:43.640 It's that she's the moderate.

00:38:45.660 Abigail Spanberger, when the Democrats were talking about abolishing police, Abigail Spanberger

00:38:51.260 said, no, I don't think we should abolish police.

00:38:52.840 When the Democrats were trying to stop Republicans from reducing crime in D.C., Abigail Spanberger

00:38:59.960 said, no, we shouldn't reduce punishments for the criminals in D.C.

00:39:05.400 During COVID, when the libs were locking down the whole world, Abigail Spanberger was one 0.85

00:39:10.200 of those who voted to end the COVID national emergency.

00:39:13.320 There were not that many Democrats who did that.

00:39:15.060 So, when the Democrats were saying everything Trump does is evil, Abigail Spanberger was

00:39:19.700 one of the people who supported Trump's rewriting of NAFTA, the USMCA trade deal.

00:39:26.540 She is, relative to the Democrats, a moderate.

00:39:30.560 And still, she supports government-protected doctor-encouraged suicide and the murder of Republicans and

00:39:45.840 our children. 0.93

00:39:48.080 Not to mention killing babies in the womb and all the rest of it. 0.98

00:39:52.680 The most moderate Democrat in the country today is like a communist compared to the Democrat

00:40:01.600 Party of even 20 years ago.

00:40:06.620 That's not to say that the Republican Party has not, in some ways, moved to the right.

00:40:09.880 It has.

00:40:10.280 Let's say this is the right.

00:40:11.600 This is the left.

00:40:12.540 I'll describe this for you if you're only listening.

00:40:15.180 Over time, yes, the right has moved a little bit to the right.

00:40:17.640 The left has moved so, so far to the left that they would minimize, excuse, and even celebrate

00:40:24.660 the murder of the assassination of a right-wing political debater.

00:40:28.780 And they would refuse to withdraw endorsements from a would-be law enforcement top official,

00:40:35.040 an attorney general of Virginia, who wishes for the murder of Republicans and our kids.

00:40:41.400 Assisted suicide, so, you know, killing the vulnerable. 0.98

00:40:44.220 That is totally kosher with these guys. 0.91

00:40:48.220 Okay.

00:40:48.800 Speaking of Charlie, speaking of Charlie Kirk, yesterday, beautiful ceremony at the White

00:40:52.520 House, Charlie was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and his widow, Erica, showed

00:40:57.960 up to receive the award.

00:40:59.220 And there was this great moment of levity as Erica was, you know, mustering an incredible

00:41:04.200 amount of strength to be able to, can you imagine, can you imagine a widow, especially 0.50

00:41:10.060 of a young husband with little kids, speaking at anything, at a luncheon shortly after her

00:41:18.300 husband's murder.

00:41:19.060 And she gets up at the White House speaking to the entire world, and she manages to find

00:41:22.600 a moment of levity with the president.

00:41:25.360 God, when it was costly, but that's what we're called to do.

00:41:30.480 Surprisingly enough, he did pray for his enemies, which is very hard, but he did.

00:41:34.880 And he did.

00:41:38.100 He did.

00:41:41.080 For those who can't see it, Trump laughs, and he throws his hands in the air.

00:41:45.780 He never did it in front of anyone else, but I can attest to that.

00:41:48.700 See, Greg, when he's laughing, he's really-

00:41:50.460 He also loved people when it was in Canada.

00:41:52.040 You can tell he's really getting a kick out of it.

00:41:53.620 And it's really, this was a great little line from Erica, but it also shows Trump's humility,

00:41:58.760 and also, I think, vindicates my view of when Trump said, Charlie said, pray for his enemies.

00:42:04.120 He wanted the best for his enemies.

00:42:05.200 I hate my enemies, and I don't want what's best for them.

00:42:07.940 And yet, all these pearl-clutching Christians who said, he doesn't understand the true gospel, 0.98

00:42:11.640 and he doesn't understand who someone needs-

00:42:13.620 I said, he's making a joke, guys.

00:42:15.600 It's a joke.

00:42:16.360 It's a nice little moment of levity.

00:42:18.260 He's saying, Charlie, even if he legitimately struggles with willing the best for his enemies,

00:42:23.600 which might be the case, he's saying, Charlie did that.

00:42:26.300 He is better than me.

00:42:27.340 He is in heaven looking down angrily at me right now.

00:42:30.060 He's saying, I'm not worthy.

00:42:31.300 Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner.

00:42:33.380 That's good.

00:42:34.000 And he's laughing here when Erica makes this joke.

00:42:35.700 It's really nice.

00:42:37.060 Even more beautiful aspect of the award, which was well-deserved, was on the back of it.

00:42:43.820 Do we have a clip of it?

00:42:45.760 If you look on the back of the Presidential Medal of Freedom, it says Charles James Kirk,

00:42:52.900 and there's a cross engraved on the back, which I think is the first time ever that a Medal of Freedom has come with a cross engraved on it.

00:43:03.580 That's really beautiful.

00:43:04.560 And, you know, if you try to see the silver lining in the storm cloud of Charlie's murder, that's it, right?

00:43:11.200 There are a handful of good reactions amid a lot of horrible reactions.

00:43:16.480 But the real silver lining is this return to church.

00:43:21.220 I've seen it personally, you know, multiple times, as have a lot of people.

00:43:26.760 This increased concern for religious truth and also, I think, a deeper understanding of freedom.

00:43:33.220 When the story of this is all written, it will be significant that Charlie was wearing a shirt that said freedom.

00:43:40.940 He was wearing a shirt that said freedom.

00:43:41.880 And that word is so abused that we tend to kind of laugh at it today.

00:43:45.600 It's, oh, here we go, another platitude about freedom in the abstract.

00:43:49.700 But that's not really how Charlie viewed freedom.

00:43:54.180 You know, Charlie, coming from a Christian perspective, understood that freedom is not just doing whatever you want.

00:44:00.000 That freedom has discipline to it.

00:44:02.260 Freedom is grounded in the truth.

00:44:04.520 I think increasingly conservatives are coming to that.

00:44:06.840 He wasn't the only one, you know, who'd come to that conclusion.

00:44:09.400 Increasingly we're coming to that conclusion.

00:44:11.200 That's how we used to understand it in American history.

00:44:13.260 Then we went through a fever in the late 20th century where we started to think freedom meant, you know, doing weird sex stuff and doing a bunch of drugs and letting criminals roam the streets.

00:44:23.280 And we thought that was freedom.

00:44:24.740 It's not.

00:44:25.580 It's not.

00:44:26.840 And the gods of the copybook headings come back again to educate us.

00:44:31.760 And the true freedom, you know, is found in Christ.

00:44:35.240 Perfect freedom is found in Christ.

00:44:36.580 Christ says, you know, the truth will set you free.

00:44:38.760 He says, take up my, you know, take my yoke upon you.

00:44:42.980 But my yoke is easy and my burden is light.

00:44:46.080 You know, if you would follow me, you know, pick up your cross. 0.98

00:44:50.980 Paradoxically, that's the kind of freedom.

00:44:53.940 Because the truth sets you free.

00:44:55.860 Lies enslave you. 0.89

00:44:57.200 The wages of sin is death.

00:44:59.000 All sin is a kind of a slavery.

00:45:00.180 We're coming to recognize that again.

00:45:03.380 That it's this kind of shallow negative view of liberty.

00:45:06.260 Where it's just freedom from interference.

00:45:09.100 So that we can go, you know, engage in whatever deviant, aberrant desires we want.

00:45:15.320 And behaviors that we want. 0.95

00:45:16.520 That's kind of silly.

00:45:17.980 One, because you can never be totally free from interference because we live in society.

00:45:22.540 The only true kind of freedom involves substantive goods.

00:45:25.340 You know, it involves, and ultimately it's perfected in Christ.

00:45:27.820 And the truth will set us free.

00:45:33.080 This is why people are ditching the false ideologies, especially the sexual ideologies.

00:45:37.080 It's a lie.

00:45:38.080 It enslaves people.

00:45:40.460 That connection, this is the first time ever in the history of the Presidential Medal of Freedom

00:45:43.380 that you see a connection between this word freedom and the perfection of freedom.

00:45:48.100 What freedom really means.

00:45:49.360 That's, when this story is written, that's going to be very significant.

00:45:56.620 That's going to be, that's, that, the author of this story did a really good job pointing that out.

00:46:01.800 Okay.

00:46:03.180 There's a story I really, really want to get to because it's an excuse to read another poem.

00:46:08.360 It comes from the Washington Post.

00:46:09.580 That people, once again, are terrified of dying alone.

00:46:15.300 So, another one of those, God's the copybook headings coming back, saying, you know, we went into this hyper-individualism

00:46:22.800 that said, we all just, we don't need anybody.

00:46:24.900 We should get divorced. 0.99

00:46:25.980 We should live on our own.

00:46:26.940 We should ignore our families.

00:46:27.800 We should ignore our friends.

00:46:28.700 We should just do whatever we want.

00:46:30.140 You do you.

00:46:30.560 Just focus on me.

00:46:31.360 Self-care.

00:46:32.480 Look out for number one. 0.61

00:46:33.460 And, and now, people are returning to an age-old fear of dying alone.

00:46:39.340 But I think, I think everyone is missing the point on this.

00:46:41.880 And I'll leave you on that cliffhanger because maybe we'll get to it tomorrow.

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 15, 2025

Ep. 1836 - BREAKING： Gen Z De-Gays Itself

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