The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1847 - What No One Noticed About Sydney Sweeney's Dress

00:00:00.000 There's a lot I want to get to. A prominent Democrat in Congress can't explain why she 0.99

00:00:04.600 voted to shut the government down. A former major conservative thought leader just endorsed

00:00:10.080 Zoran Mamdani for New York mayor. Support for so-called same-sex marriages cratering,

00:00:15.920 all massive developments. But speaking of massive developments,

00:00:21.640 I have to speak for a moment about Sidney Sweeney. Yesterday, I got a lot of flack from

00:00:27.540 the producers because I did not cover Sidney Sweeney. Sidney Sweeney did not cover Sidney

00:00:32.800 Sweeney, it turns out. I didn't really know what they were talking about. I had seen her name

00:00:37.860 trending in the morning. I was writing my show, but I didn't pay it much attention.

00:00:41.940 Then sometime yesterday afternoon, a photo of the reason she was trending finally hit my Twitter feed.

00:00:49.960 And after I regained custody of my eyes, I understood why the producers wanted me to talk

00:00:55.360 about it. For the few who did not catch it, Sidney Sweeney showed up to some awards gala

00:01:02.180 wearing a see-through dress. And this is a family show, so we'll blur it out a little bit.

00:01:09.200 But to be fair, it was not a full Kanye wife dress. It was not completely transparent, but

00:01:15.900 it left very little to the imagination, which excited lots of people, but it also disappointed a lot of

00:01:23.900 people, especially conservatives who like to claim Ms. Sweeney is one of our own.

00:01:29.920 The only two takes I saw on the dress yesterday were disapproval on the one hand that it's immodest

00:01:37.400 and approval on the other hand, if you got it flaunted. But I think there is actually a third

00:01:44.660 option that I have not heard anyone else mention. And it is an option that reconciles the dress,

00:01:50.680 which we know she wore, with the fact that Sidney Sweeney is a Republican, which we know

00:01:55.320 because of reporting about her voter ID. I think the dress was subversive. 1.00

00:02:02.180 I don't want to give too esoteric a Straussian reading here, but I think the dress was subversive

00:02:08.460 because, here's my evidence, the event that she wore it to was Variety Magazine's Power of Women

00:02:16.400 Gala. That was the name of it. And while we've been told for decades that women only have power 1.00

00:02:22.560 when they're feminist boss ladies who wear pantsuits and act like men, Sidney Sweeney's dress said, 1.00

00:02:30.080 no, the power of women is in our femininity. The power of women is especially in some particular 0.99

00:02:38.320 anatomical features that men don't have. It has actually a vital biological power. And yes,

00:02:44.380 the power of women is in no part, no small part rather, in women's physiques. 1.00

00:02:51.380 I'm not saying the dress is conservative exactly, but it sure ain't feminist. 0.99

00:02:56.960 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:49.700 Do you know what today is? Today is Friend Friday. That's what I'm calling it now. I tried this out

00:04:56.000 last week or two weeks ago when I was still in the country, and I really liked it where I bring on a

00:05:01.380 friend and we kind of beat up the stories. I get, listen, sometimes I get in a vacuum here. It's

00:05:06.900 just me and the microphone and the camera and my cigars and my beautiful candles, which we'll talk

00:05:10.760 about later. But I got to bring in another voice sometimes, make sure I'm not totally off, especially

00:05:16.720 on a topic as controversial as Sidney Sweeney's dress. So anyway, this time I'm bringing on my

00:05:21.200 friend, Jack Posobiec. Jack, thank you for coming on the show.

00:05:26.820 Happy Christian Halloween to you, Michael Knowles.

00:05:30.100 Hey, I want to get to that later, too. I had a big debate on this yesterday,

00:05:33.580 and I suspect, and in fact, I know that you're totally right about this.

00:05:38.300 So before we get into Halloween, I do want to talk about dressing up for a second.

00:05:44.280 Sidney Sweeney, you saw the dress?

00:05:45.680 No, I didn't see Sidney Sweeney trending at all yesterday. I have no idea what you're referring

00:05:50.740 to. I only have a completely wholesome Twitter feed. So, well, I'll fill you in then, Jack,

00:05:56.460 obviously. Sidney Sweeney wore a dress that some are calling slightly immodest. However,

00:06:01.820 I kind of wonder if there's some subversion here. Look, I really want to claim Sidney Sweeney

00:06:06.320 is one of our own. She's apparently a registered Republican. I like that she is pretty in a normal 0.59

00:06:12.400 way, not in like a weird 20 teens, androgynous, freaky way. And so is there, what's your take

00:06:18.520 on the dress?

00:06:20.920 So, I mean, look, I've got a take on it. It might be a little bit of a thought crime,

00:06:26.280 but the, all right, all right. It's not necessarily conservative, but it is right-wing coded.

00:06:33.540 And the reason that I say that it's right-wing coded is because it's anti-Kardashian.

00:06:38.060 Sidney Sweeney is the anti-Kardashian.

00:06:40.580 Okay. I don't know if you were plugged in during the monologue, but I said almost a similar thing.

00:06:47.520 I said, it's not quite conservative, but it's at least anti-feminist. What do you mean anti-Kardashian?

00:06:54.420 Yeah. So, Kardashian is this sort of, like that look that's been kind of going around. I think it

00:06:59.940 started in like the late 2000s, really blew up in like the 2010s along with the Kardashian look,

00:07:06.900 and you see this everywhere. You see like the huge contours and, and, and I just, I'm just going

00:07:12.880 to say it, man. It's like twerking culture. It's just full on twerking culture. And, and more about

00:07:17.880 that base, no trouble.

00:07:18.820 In fact, we, we all, we all know what Sidney Sweeney is bringing back. She went on SNL,

00:07:24.680 she did the little sketch where she dressed, I'm going to say it, she dressed as a Hooters 1.00

00:07:27.500 girl. And they're talking about a certain large, uh, assets in terms of her, obviously 0.99

00:07:34.260 her intellect and her poise that she is bringing back to the forefront. And this has been something

00:07:41.220 that has been de-emphasized in our culture for a very long time. And I'm just going to say

00:07:45.680 it is right-wing coded because it is nurturing. It is life-giving. It is, uh, it is, and it

00:07:51.580 is the true essence of femininity, which is of course, motherhood. 1.00

00:07:55.520 Wow. Because if you're saying, you know, if, if the culture is all about that base, no

00:08:00.240 treble, that feature is, is kind of left-coded because it's androgynous, you know, men and

00:08:07.820 women have that feature, but only women have, have the other feature. 1.00

00:08:11.460 Correct. Wow. That's pretty, wow. This has been kind of like a topic on the internet for

00:08:17.940 a while too. It's sort of one of those, uh, there's a website that I've heard of it's

00:08:21.940 for four channel or something like that. I'm not, I've never seen it myself, but, uh, you

00:08:27.060 know, where this topic has come up to quite, quite an extent. And Sydney Sweeney is sort

00:08:31.300 of like the avatar of this side of the debate, where if you want to bring true femininity back,

00:08:36.640 that means, and, and look, go back to, uh, to America circa 1992. I saw this like internet

00:08:41.860 hall of fame clip that was going around yesterday or earlier this week on Twitter, where it was

00:08:46.060 the, it was Apache helicopters were flying the pace car of NASCAR at the Hooters 500 in like

00:08:55.080 Charlotte, North Carolina. And it was like, it's like, that was the America I grew up in.

00:09:00.700 And you know something, it was just better. Yeah. I'm not saying it was the 1950s exactly,

00:09:06.960 but it was probably preferable. No, it wasn't, it wasn't the conservative 1950s,

00:09:09.980 but it was just better. This, this ties in to a major news story that a lot of people said was

00:09:15.800 not possible, which is according to an economist, you gov poll. So it's not necessarily a right-wing

00:09:23.620 poll support for same-sex marriage. So-called has fallen to 54%. And this is one of these issues,

00:09:31.820 you know, I grew up, I'm old enough to remember when marriage was between a man and a woman.

00:09:36.080 And some of our audience actually is probably so young. They don't remember that. Then you get

00:09:39.900 2015 Obergefell, the Supreme court redefines marriage. That push had been building for some

00:09:44.620 time, really since willing grace in the late nineties. And then it just, it stopped being a

00:09:50.320 political issue. And there were a handful of us who said, yo guys, you can't give up on marriage.

00:09:54.220 It's the fundamental political institution, but all the Republicans, virtually all of the

00:09:59.520 prominent conservatives, they said, now guys, we lost marriage, move on. Obergefell will never be

00:10:04.820 overturned. This is just how it is now. And I thought like, there's no way, right? This is the basic

00:10:09.260 political unit. There's the gods of the copy book headings are going to come back. Is this a sign

00:10:14.060 that we will see the overturning of Obergefell and the re restatement of a proper true marriage?

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00:11:45.940 is Obergefell getting overruled? I think, I think if you look at the traction, right, if you look at

00:11:51.340 the traction and where it's going on this and, and Obergefell, you know, people could say what they

00:11:55.040 want. And I think it's actually a separate issue from same-sex marriage, even though it's sort of like

00:11:59.240 in, in, in political psychology, isn't because we know that the justices take up cases based on

00:12:04.360 public opinion. We certainly know that Roberts has done this. It's been sort of a hallmark of

00:12:07.480 his time on the court that, look, it was not properly judged in the same way that Roe v. Wade

00:12:14.140 was not properly judged. This is just not something that's covered in the constitution. It's not there.

00:12:18.720 It's not in the bill of rights. It's certainly not in any of the amendments. Marriage was always a 0.99

00:12:22.920 state institution. It is covered by the 10th amendment because no powers that are given to the federal

00:12:27.520 government are, all of those are left with the states. And so it's always been that way. And

00:12:32.280 they can't just write things into the constitution. No one ever tried to put this up. No one ever tried

00:12:36.720 to make this an amendment. They just sort of pushed it through the courts, which we've seen the left

00:12:39.960 doing since the 1960s. If they can't win at the ballot box, they go to the courtroom. And so it is

00:12:45.140 something where when you realize that, look, there, and you mentioned there weren't a lot of

00:12:48.340 Republicans and conservatives that spoke out, but the very first Republican that I ever worked for

00:12:53.500 many moons ago, uh, first as an intern, as a campaign staffer, it was Rick Santorum and Rick

00:12:59.120 Santorum, my Senator in Pennsylvania, he took a lot of flack and people can go back and look at his

00:13:04.140 comments, which were colorful to say the least about this. And he said, if you put this into

00:13:09.120 practice, right, if you put it into law and trying to anywhere, that what it will do will open up a

00:13:14.400 Pandora's box of trouble, where if you say that anything can be marriage, then all of a sudden you

00:13:21.220 will completely distort society. And it won't just be men and men and women and women, but we'll have

00:13:26.500 all sorts of relationships being enshrined in government, being enshrined by government in

00:13:30.640 law. And guess what? That's exactly what we're seeing. Certainly with the rise of surrogacy,

00:13:35.320 certainly with the rise of new technologies, we're now seeing like polyamorous marriages and 0.98

00:13:39.840 children being raised by three fathers, three women, and all sorts of just complete and utter 0.99

00:13:45.880 wildness, which ultimately always turns out very badly for the children. And so, you know,

00:13:53.000 he took a lot, a lot of flack for that. If anyone remembers the comments I'm referring to from like

00:13:57.180 05, 06, you'll know what I'm saying. That it's, it's something where he was completely right because

00:14:02.440 they didn't stop there. That's what led to the push for the trans movement. That's what led to like

00:14:06.560 drag queen story hour and all the rest of it. Because the minute that they got that the entire machinery,

00:14:11.300 the political machinery that they had built or starting with, by the way, you're totally right on

00:14:14.860 really grace. That was like the first. And then modern family became the second. This is the mass

00:14:18.920 media. This is the, you know, the mass normalization of this type of stuff. And, and it was pushed on

00:14:24.960 society in a way that nobody ever really sat down and had a debate about. We just sort of were told

00:14:30.460 that we have to accept this and, and they've completely gone over the rails with it. And a lot

00:14:35.720 of people are pointing back to 2013, really a lot of these bad decisions, bad policies that came out of

00:14:40.120 the Obama era that it's time to take a look at again. And I will, by the way, just add as an

00:14:44.600 anecdote. So my, my son, my oldest son, um, he had his first, uh, reconciliation class a couple of

00:14:50.320 nights ago. And in, and it, since it was the first class, we were sort of talking about all of the

00:14:54.960 sacraments. And when they brought up matrimony, the, uh, you know, the teacher, she said, you know,

00:15:00.660 and by the way, just so everybody knows marriage is between one man and one woman kind of like looks

00:15:05.480 around the room. Everybody got that good moving on. Well, even in, you know, it's so funny. It only

00:15:10.900 occurred to me recently, the word matrimony comes from the word mater, you know, like mother in Latin.

00:15:17.660 And so the notion that you could have matrimony between two men is, is undercut by the very word

00:15:24.220 itself. Uh, yes, Rick Santorum is one of the most vindicated men in America. Every day that goes by,

00:15:31.620 he is more and more vindicated. Uh, and you make a good point on Obergefell being different from

00:15:38.920 same sex marriage, quote unquote. Uh, you know, I do wonder though on the state versus federal issue.

00:15:44.880 I remember I was a student and I got to talk to Scalia once or twice. And we, one of, one of the

00:15:51.480 times, one of the students asked him about marriage and whether it was a state's issue or federal issue.

00:15:56.180 And he said, well, you know, the problem is it's very hard for it to be a state's issue because you

00:16:01.700 can't have a country where someone is married in Massachusetts, but not married in Oklahoma.

00:16:05.700 What happens when they move? What happens when they travel? So it, it creates problems.

00:16:09.780 What they did with the Massachusetts, um, I think it was Massachusetts was the first state. And this

00:16:13.900 is exactly what they were trying to do with that under the, under the contract clause of the

00:16:17.800 constitution is same, same idea as having a driver's license in one state. You can, you know,

00:16:21.540 you shouldn't have to get a driver's license in every state.

00:16:23.980 Yeah. So then my question is regardless of what the, well, I actually have two questions.

00:16:30.040 We were told that this issue like abortion and Roe v. Wade was, was just done. It was set in law.

00:16:35.960 It was never going to be overturned in our lifetimes. Two questions. Will we see the overruling

00:16:41.220 of Obergefell in our lifetime and on, on any kind of grounds on, you know, textualist grounds,

00:16:47.540 originalist grounds or substantive grounds? And two, will the culture, will we see the majority of

00:16:53.580 people turn against gay marriage so-called in our lifetimes? I think we will. I think, 1.00

00:17:00.220 and I caught what you were saying about Gen Z, I caught you what you're saying about the polling

00:17:03.460 on this. I think a lot of people realize, you know, especially Gen Z when they look at,

00:17:07.740 you know, sort of the, the laws that came out of the sixties, that was sort of seen as the boomer

00:17:12.340 era. Then the laws that came out of the nineties, the Clinton, the Gen X era, and then the laws that 0.62

00:17:16.900 came out of Obama and the policy changes. This was the millennial era of politics where they had

00:17:21.780 primacy. And the idea being that everything has gone a little bit too far in one direction.

00:17:26.740 And we need to look at things that we want to reel back. And you look at some of those big changes,

00:17:31.300 there's no way that you can say Obergefell wasn't a major change to the way things have been done.

00:17:36.640 By the way, not just in the United States of America, throughout all of human history,

00:17:41.500 the nuclear family is the oldest institution on planet earth. It predates literally everything.

00:17:48.160 It predates the Bible. It predates history itself. We go into the caves.

00:17:51.780 Of the cavemen. And what do we find? We find mom, dad, kids. It's all there.

00:17:56.880 Yeah, I agree. I just think these people who thought that they were going to bet on their

00:18:02.220 own ideology over human nature and the fact that we're social creatures and coupling creatures and

00:18:07.020 biological creatures, I think that was, that was really a bad bet. Okay.

00:18:10.840 I want to turn to more mundane political. Say it again.

00:18:13.560 Which gets us back to Sidney Sweeney.

00:18:15.920 Which does get us back to Sidney Sweeney. In fact, now I want to move to much less pleasant

00:18:20.840 matters, unfortunately, more mundane matters. Democrat representative Janelle Bynum was just 1.00

00:18:27.560 being interviewed by C-SPAN Washington Journal, which I've done that show a number of times and

00:18:32.380 it's a kind of a liberal show, but it's on C-SPAN. You know, it's not, it's not supposed to be

00:18:37.000 polemical. It's certainly not right wing. She goes on C-SPAN. They ask her about the government

00:18:42.940 shutdown. She doesn't have an answer. 1.00

00:18:46.260 They did have a clean CR vote on September 19th in the House. Did you vote for it?

00:18:54.740 I disagree with your characterization and want to make sure that we're very clear about

00:19:00.360 what Republicans have been doing. Any bill that they've put forth, they've always had

00:19:04.680 some extra stuff to it. There's always been a poison pill to it. So I disagree with your

00:19:09.560 characterization. What were the poison pills of the clean CR or the continuing resolution?

00:19:14.620 You say it's not clean. That was voted on in the House in mid-September.

00:19:20.840 Here's what's important. I think what you're trying to do

00:19:23.860 is shift the responsibility to Democrats.

00:19:27.980 So for those who haven't followed the shutdown all that closely,

00:19:32.120 the Republicans offered a continuing resolution to keep current spending levels through November,

00:19:39.100 and then there would be more of a budgetary fight. But that means that they offered to Democrats

00:19:43.880 the opportunity to vote for a budget that was essentially the same budget they had already

00:19:49.280 voted for under Biden. And the Democrats voted for it under Biden, and they refused to vote for

00:19:53.640 the exact same thing under Trump. And so Washington Journal calls this lady out for it, Janelle Bynum, 1.00

00:20:00.140 and says, hey, why'd you vote for it one time, not the other? She goes, I totally dispute your

00:20:05.860 characterization because there's a poison pill. Simple follow-up question. What's the poison pill?

00:20:10.160 Humana, humana, humana, humana. Jack, two questions. One, what is the average IQ in the

00:20:18.960 House of Representatives here on Capitol Hill broadly? And two, that might be too difficult

00:20:23.500 to question to answer or too depressing a question. Two, what were Democrats thinking

00:20:29.180 getting into this shutdown fight?

00:20:30.360 Look, I'm just going to say this, that it has been remarked to me on more than one occasion

00:20:39.280 that when you move from the House side of the Capitol Hill to the Senate side, that you

00:20:43.840 can actually feel the rise in IQ when you're going over. And not all senators, I would add,

00:20:51.440 but there is a sense that the seriousness, it just kind of elevates a little bit. And to all the House

00:20:58.780 members that I'm, that I'm friends with, you know, exactly what I mean.

00:21:02.340 Yeah. Hey, listen, some of my best friends are, are members of the House of Representatives,

00:21:05.800 but nevertheless.

00:21:06.560 Some of my best friends, they're not all of them. Some, I assume are good people,

00:21:10.360 you know, and, um, you know, what were they thinking? Look, the Democrats' singular focus

00:21:16.020 since 2025, even actually go back further since 2016, is just do the opposite of Trump.

00:21:22.140 Whatever Trump wants, just do the opposite, which I've, I've often argued that this is something

00:21:26.740 that Trump should actually take into consideration when he's like, I'm going to breathe air today.

00:21:31.720 And the Democrats are going, we're not going to breathe air at all anymore.

00:21:34.380 No, it's going to be terrible, right? Just, just start supporting things that, you know,

00:21:38.460 they have to also support just to like complete them, drive them crazy and have them chasing their

00:21:42.300 tail all the time. They walk themselves into a corner. This isn't the first time they've done this

00:21:46.500 and they'll sit there and you ask them a basic follow-up question, really simple,

00:21:52.440 totally fair question. You said there were poison pills. Okay, great. What's the poison pill?

00:21:56.080 Well, can't answer. I saw Tara Palmieri had, um, this, uh, this, uh, former media matters, 0.98

00:22:02.740 like intern on, who's running for Congress up in the Chicago area and said, so you were indicted

00:22:06.960 for obstructing ice. Well, I was indicted for free speech. Okay. Let's play the video of what

00:22:11.540 you did. They said you were beating on the hood. She plays the video. She's beating on the hood of

00:22:15.040 the ice car and said, well, what do you think about this video? I mean, and, and these charges,

00:22:19.000 there's a, there's a six year, um, you know, possible penalty, which could by the way,

00:22:23.460 preclude your ability to serve in the house. She hangs up. She just hangs up. It's, it's one

00:22:28.400 of the most stunning things I've ever seen. Doesn't even have a basic answer to a simple

00:22:32.600 question. And so look, hats off to, you know, uh, as Rush Limbaugh used to call them random

00:22:37.560 acts of journalism, because this is journalists actually doing their job. Just ask basic follow-up

00:22:44.180 questions and you see them completely fall apart. Yes. I, it, in a way the, that exchange,

00:22:50.400 she was like a figure of the whole shutdown fight in as much as there was an obvious follow-up 0.96

00:22:57.160 that, that the Democrat never thought about. They, they, they never seem to think or to

00:23:02.580 understand how this story was going to end. So on the shutdown, they say, look, we're on the wrong

00:23:06.760 side of virtually every 80, 20 issue other than abortion, environmentalism, and healthcare. And no

00:23:12.500 one cares about abortion, environmentalism. Okay. We're going to make this about healthcare. All right.

00:23:16.500 We're shutting the government down. And the Republicans come out and they say, hold on,

00:23:20.100 you're shutting the government down because you want to give healthcare to illegals. That's one 1.00

00:23:23.260 change you want to make the healthcare. And because you want to give more federal subsidies to rich

00:23:27.040 people, that's another change you want to make the healthcare. And the Democrats say, uh, uh,

00:23:31.080 and they don't know what to do. They're according to all available reporting,

00:23:35.320 they're feeling the pressure right now. This is the first locked shutdown rather in my lifetime

00:23:39.520 that has not been blamed on Republicans. Trump's numbers are going up during the shutdown. So it's,

00:23:44.360 Schumer's plan completely backfired. The Dems are probably going to have to cave and be in a worse

00:23:48.800 position than they were before. It's the same thing with this lady on TV. Well, you know, 0.99

00:23:52.560 there was a poison pill. Okay. What was it? Uh, uh, hummina, hummina, hummina. You gotta,

00:23:57.880 you gotta like, guys, I'm not, you don't need to be count von Metternich here, but you have to figure

00:24:01.280 out like step one, two, and three. How is the plan going to end? Okay. Speaking of strange

00:24:07.140 electoral matters, a former major conservative thought leader is endorsing Zoe Ron in New York.

00:24:14.480 We'll get to that momentarily. First, I want to tell you about the St. Paul Center. Go to

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00:25:24.440 center dot com slash America. Also folks, very, very exciting. You're getting the first glimpse of

00:25:33.100 this. The Michael Knowles Lux Adventus Advent calendar set, Advent candle set. I'm so sorry.

00:25:42.640 It pairs with your Advent calendar. You know, last year we had the, uh, smells and bells candles. We've

00:25:49.820 had many candles, especially liturgically themed ones. And we sold a zillion of them and they're

00:25:53.960 just so good. You, you went out, you bought them, they sold out. Then you yelled at me because they

00:26:00.000 sold out. Well, we have this year, it smells like just a fresh, beautiful pine forest. You have the

00:26:05.920 three purple candles with the one pink candle to meditate on the last four things, death, judgment,

00:26:12.120 heaven, and hell. This is being sold for a very, very limited time. It's actual, it's beeswax,

00:26:18.300 like the ancient Christian tradition of beeswax candles. It's just magnificent. You need to get

00:26:23.800 them now. They're being sold for a very, very limited time because we want to be able to ship

00:26:26.520 them so that you have them for Advent. So if you want it right now, go to thecandleclub.com.

00:26:32.240 You can get them there. Order them now though, because they're going to sell out and I want you to get

00:26:36.660 them for Advent and they're just magnificent. Okay. Jack, Bill Crystal. Remember him? Bill Crystal.

00:26:44.480 Real quick. I want the candles, man. You're selling me on this. We need the candles in the

00:26:51.040 Pozo household. I know. It is actually, this is a product almost perfectly tailor-made for the

00:26:57.500 Pozo household. I just love it. When we, we were going to do a different kind of candle. I said,

00:27:01.880 guys, you know what we have? We need to do a full Advent, like one for each week, last four things.

00:27:08.760 I'm very excited for it. I look forward to smuggling a few out of you.

00:27:11.840 I love, especially like right when you get to Christmas, the week one candle is like hanging

00:27:15.320 on for dear life. It's like, it's like right at the bottom. Cause you always have the different,

00:27:19.480 you know, cause one week to week and then Godete. But then like, we always get that last one of it.

00:27:23.380 Come on, come on. I can get, there's a little bit of wick left and you could just get in there.

00:27:26.840 Also, did you know, so some of our high church mainline Protestant friends,

00:27:30.880 they, they do that tradition of the four, uh, you know, candles for the four weeks. And,

00:27:35.120 but that's awesome. But they make it, they make it like really nice and happy.

00:27:39.440 So, and a friend had sent me a kind of like a Protestant Advent wreath. And it was, it was like

00:27:45.960 hope, joy, happiness, whatever. It was all this like happy stuff. And I said, no, no, no. But the

00:27:51.360 Catholic version is the last four things. So as you're leading into, uh, up to Christmas, you meditate

00:27:57.200 on, uh, death, judgment, heaven and hell, which I love. I listened, but we have to get you some

00:28:06.540 candles, Jack. Uh, I also, I need to get your take on Bill Kristol, former, I don't know, one of the

00:28:14.600 grand poobahs of the conservative movement. He, he caught a terminal case of TDS 10 years ago,

00:28:20.440 turned on Trump. He now says he would vote for mom Donnie for mayor of New York. He wouldn't even

00:28:26.900 vote for Cuomo. He's not even that kind of Democrat anymore. He's going to vote for the Muslim 1.00

00:28:30.220 communist. This was so extreme that even Jonah Goldberg, another, uh, you know, once a real

00:28:36.600 thought leader on, on the right kind of shifted a little bit after Trump because he really hated

00:28:41.300 Trump. But, but even Jonah comes out yesterday, he says, hold on, look, I like Bill. He's a friend

00:28:46.420 of mine, but what the hell are we doing? Why are you voting for what, or why, why are you supporting

00:28:52.380 Zoran Mamdani? He can't understand it. Can you? Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's really simple. I mean,

00:28:59.800 it, it just kind of goes back to what we were saying earlier about the Democrats. They've taken

00:29:03.620 the exact same tack where if someone is anti-Trump, they see that as, okay, you're my friend. So I'm

00:29:09.940 going to be friends with you. I'm going to be supportive of you. If someone is as further to the left

00:29:15.420 or as far as someone that Trump has attacked, therefore must be someone that I will lend my

00:29:20.460 support to. So they're, they're North star, right? Which we were told was true conservatism.

00:29:24.920 Remember these were the true conservatives TM, true conservatives would always oppose Trump and

00:29:30.280 always support. Let me just, and let me just follow the, this, this line of thought, always

00:29:34.000 support the constitution, always support the founders, always support the Muslim, uh, communists 0.98

00:29:40.300 who have only been American for about five minutes, but also whose parents say that they're

00:29:44.660 not American at all who have spent their entire public life. Let's see, demonizing, uh, demonizing

00:29:52.100 white people telling us that the NYPD is the tool of the IDF telling us that, uh, they are going to 0.53

00:29:58.660 basically strip everything from anyone who's built anything in New York city and give it to the

00:30:04.860 migrants. This is the true blessings of conservatism. Yes. Of course it makes total sense. 1.00

00:30:10.660 It does. It does. No, there is a, there's a kind of internal logic to the way you're describing it,

00:30:15.160 Jack. And it, you know, at a really basic level, I, I wonder if Jonah Goldberg is confused because

00:30:21.640 he's been invading against tribalism and politics and all, you know, that became really popular in the

00:30:26.800 late 20 teens is for people to say, well, I'm against tribalism or whatever. I, I, I just think

00:30:32.600 at a basic level, politics is a team sport. You know, Machiavelli writes well of this in, uh,

00:30:39.320 the discourses on Livy, uh, but this is, it's not a particularly profound insight. It's just how

00:30:44.000 politics works. You got to bring people together because politics is how we all live together.

00:30:47.760 And it's a team sport. And 10 years ago, Bill Kristol switched teams. And so now he's on the

00:30:52.960 other team. And I mean, that's substantially what you just said to Jack, uh, but I don't know.

00:30:58.180 Why is that so complicated? I don't even think that's bad. Some people say, well,

00:31:00.720 it's just awful to think of politics as a team sport. Why is it? I don't know. We're social

00:31:04.480 creatures. That's how we got to do stuff together. We have to cooperate. And in any society,

00:31:09.440 they're going to be differing opinions. And so you got to build coalitions. I don't know.

00:31:13.180 In a way, I think Kristol is being kind of honest here. He's saying, look, I left the team 10 years

00:31:19.480 ago. Now I'm on the other team and I'm going all the way. I'm, I'm in, you know, give me the Jersey

00:31:23.880 coach. I'm yes. Bill Kristol, principled conservatives for Muslim Ugandan communists,

00:31:30.400 before I let you go, Jim. And actually, if, if just to add on that, um, you know,

00:31:35.420 if you look at, so if you look at his father, Irving Kristol, so he is a former Democrat as well.

00:31:40.780 So, and you saw this with a lot of the, yeah, the birth of the neoconservative movement was sort

00:31:45.700 of like, they were the Democrats who left over the Vietnam war and then moved over to the Republican

00:31:51.980 party and then have sort of been kind of like ensconced there and then through the Bush years,

00:31:56.920 et cetera. So really this is sort of just a return to form.

00:32:00.160 Yes. And you know, it's funny, the neocons are justifiably, you know, beaten about in political

00:32:05.440 discourse. And a lot of them, they were like ex Trotskyites who became Democrats and then became

00:32:11.640 conservatives when they were mugged by reality, they said. But I'll tell you though, that first

00:32:15.980 gen of neoconservatives, you read some of like Irving Kristol's writings, a lot of it's very thoughtful,

00:32:21.200 very serious. And I don't know, it'd be, it's hard for me to imagine Irving Kristol supporting

00:32:26.400 Mom Donnie. I, it's a, it's a, it's a sad turn of events. Before I let you go, Kamala Harris wants

00:32:33.680 to lower the voting age to 16. Give it to your, in her own words.

00:32:38.540 I think we should reduce voting age to 16.

00:32:41.280 I'll tell you why. So Gen Z, they're age about 13 through 27. They've only known the climate 1.00

00:32:55.080 crisis. They missed substantial parts of their education because of the pandemic.

00:32:59.860 If they're in high school or college, especially in college, it is very likely that whatever they've

00:33:08.620 chosen as their major for study may not result in an affordable wage. They've coined the term

00:33:15.800 climate anxiety to describe fear of not only being able to buy a home, but that fear will be wiped out

00:33:25.460 by extreme weather, but fear of having children. It goes on. I just, I don't have time or, or

00:33:31.180 patience. Jack, I I'm in reflexively opposed to this, especially if the argument for letting 16 1.00

00:33:38.220 year olds vote is that they're completely neurotic and afraid of an imaginary problem. But then I look

00:33:44.140 around at Gen Z and I notice at least on the right, these guys are pretty trad, you know, I mean,

00:33:50.520 they're pretty right wing and I mean, in many ways, the kids are all right. Oh, should we lower the

00:33:55.900 voting age? I mean, I, uh, I'm like you, I think I'm reflexively against anything that allows more

00:34:02.980 people to vote. I think universal suffrage is one of those things that we, uh, that we really should

00:34:07.300 be having more conversations about and something I talked to Charlie about quite a bit, um, uh, on,

00:34:12.400 on thought crime on our, our sort of like taboo breaking show. But, but no, you're right though.

00:34:17.200 I will say though about Gen Z that you're right. The, the, the, the thing with Gen Z is this, 1.00

00:34:22.400 there's no middle in Gen Z, right? It's either you're like all the way to the right, or you're 0.99

00:34:27.040 all the way to like, you know, Zoran Mamdani and Luigi Maggioni. There's no middle, there's no

00:34:32.560 middle ground. There's no centrist. There's no half measures. It's either you're like full on trad.

00:34:38.260 I support Trump, deport everyone, you know, that, that hasn't been America for like more than 10 years. 0.59

00:34:43.940 Uh, or you're like all the way on the left and you just want to burn it all the way down. So

00:34:48.280 I'm not sure exactly how it strikes out, but I will say this, that when you talk about the neurosis,

00:34:53.140 you were talking about the anxiety. People don't blame Republicans for the lockdowns. They don't

00:34:58.120 blame the conservatives for the, for the shutdowns in, in their formative years, right? That is very

00:35:05.920 squarely blamed on her party, on Joe Biden or whoever it was that was making those decisions

00:35:11.140 in the white house. And I think that's one of the big reasons that you're seeing people who

00:35:15.940 are just totally out for revenge against the government. Yes. And now finally, before I let

00:35:20.700 you go, what will you be dressing as for Halloween tonight, Jack, or are you boycotting it because

00:35:26.360 it's a terrible evil satanic holiday? So Halloween is Christian. Halloween has been Christian since 1.00

00:35:31.920 735 when Pope Gregory ordained all saints day as November 1st, it has no connection whatsoever to

00:35:38.800 any Irish folk holidays. There's no evidence of this whatsoever, despite what 19th century bad

00:35:44.620 history tells you. There's also no evidence by the way that that Irish folk holiday had anything to do

00:35:49.840 with paganism. This is totally made up just like Wiccanism is totally made up in the modern era. 0.94

00:35:54.840 It has no connection or bearing to anything historical. And in fact, Halloween itself has always

00:36:00.480 been a Christian holiday. Now, just like Christmas, that doesn't mean it hasn't been secularized over the

00:36:06.800 years. And certainly we've seen that. And we have seen the rise of occultists and paganists

00:36:11.480 that are trying to invert a Christian holiday. So it's, it's the start of all hallowed tide, as you 0.97

00:36:16.640 know. Uh, so all hallows Eve, all hallows day, all saints day, and then followed by all souls day,

00:36:22.000 which we pray for the souls of the faithful departed in purgatory. So we are going up as a family, uh, as a

00:36:28.540 family costume, as we do every single year. I am not at liberty yet to say, uh, I cannot even give any

00:36:34.440 clues as to what it might be, but check our social media because my wife is very insistent that we do

00:36:40.440 not, uh, that we do not, uh, divulge this, but I would just say this to everybody out there.

00:36:44.780 It, there's a right way and a wrong way to do Halloween. If you're doing it in a way that's

00:36:48.460 having fun, if you're going out and you're remembering the souls of the faithful departed,

00:36:52.060 that's absolutely the best way to do it. Remember your mortality, uh, mock the demons,

00:36:57.640 mock the occult, mock Satanism in all of its forms, and then go out and have fun. That's the best way to do it.

00:37:04.300 It's a great, what a great idea, Jack, uh, a man who basically needs no introduction or

00:37:10.360 salutation or valediction, but, uh, it is at least a perfunctory matter. Where can people go find you

00:37:17.680 to see more? What's, uh, uh, at Jack Posobiec all over, all over Twitter. And the podcast is

00:37:25.000 human events daily. We're actually, we're going to be running our, our normal Halloween special with

00:37:30.440 Dr. Taylor Marshall discussing the Christian origins of Halloween. I'm sure it'll be very,

00:37:35.820 very politically correct. Very tame. Jack, always excellent to see you. Thank you for coming on.

00:37:40.840 God bless, man. Good to see you, man. Okay. Uh, before we get to the mailbag, I want to

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00:39:44.820 fight. Okay. My favorite comment yesterday is from McGred7364. Funny, the Pope blesses a hunk of ice

00:39:54.760 and suddenly climate change is no longer going to destroy humanity. I know that's kind of a joke.

00:40:00.400 God works in mysterious ways. The Pope had this pre-scheduled climate thing as part of one of

00:40:10.640 his many events that he goes to. And he was asked to bless ice and popes and bishops and priests

00:40:15.620 bless water. So he blesses the water. And then Bill Gates comes out and says, climate change isn't a

00:40:20.480 threat anymore. All nature, my friends, is but art unknown to thee. All chance direction which thou

00:40:26.540 canst not see. Finally, finally, we arrive at my favorite time of the week, the mailbag.

00:40:30.700 Mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk at puretalk.com slash Knowles Canada W-L-E-S to make the switch

00:40:34.600 today. Take it away. Hey, Michael. My girlfriend and I are kind of going through a rocky patch right

00:40:41.560 now. I'd say, in fact, she'd like to break up with me for the one reason that I do not believe

00:40:48.700 that Jesus Christ is the literal son of God incarnate and come down to earth. Like, I do believe God is

00:40:55.280 real, absolutely, but I don't think he'd do that. And I do believe Jesus was real, a very,

00:41:03.500 very incredibly smart man, incredibly intelligent man, somebody we should absolutely model our lives

00:41:08.060 after, you know, who died for his convictions. And please sell me on the Catholic Church. Sell me on 0.56

00:41:16.760 Jesus. I don't understand and I don't want to lose her. She's literally perfect.

00:41:23.020 That's very sweet. Okay. Well, uh, sorry that you're going through this rough patch in your

00:41:28.500 relationship, but this might be a good opportunity to re-examine exactly what you think and believe

00:41:33.240 and what the issue really is. Cause you say, you know, look, I, I, I love Jesus. I think he's great.

00:41:39.400 I think he's really smart. I think he's really moral. I think he's the kind of person to model

00:41:43.500 your life after. I just don't think he's God. And my girlfriend has a problem with this and she

00:41:48.100 doesn't see a future with me. If I don't, I don't think he's God, but I think he's really great in

00:41:51.980 everything. But he says he's God. He says in no uncertain terms that he is God before Abraham was, 0.79

00:42:00.460 I am. And, and he says it many other times in many different ways. So he says that, which means,

00:42:08.600 and you might say, well, I just don't believe that part. Okay. But now you get to C.S. Lewis's

00:42:13.220 trilemma, which is that if he says he's God and he's not really God, then he's either a lunatic,

00:42:24.020 but you said he's not a lunatic. You said he seems really intelligent and, you know, really,

00:42:28.660 really great and everything really with it. Or he's a liar, but you said he's, he's someone to

00:42:36.540 model your life after. So you're saying he's someone to model your life after, but he's dishonest

00:42:41.140 and he's a fraud. Or there's one third option, which is that he is who he says he is. And he

00:42:46.900 really is the Lord, but that's it. I think maybe the conflict that you're, you're arriving at is

00:42:52.460 you, you want to occupy a middle ground that is not tenable when it comes to faith. And your

00:43:01.040 girlfriend is rightly intuiting that that's not going to, that's unstable and you're not going 1.00

00:43:07.060 to remain there. You can't remain there because it doesn't make any sense. Either Christ is

00:43:12.540 intelligent and moral and someone to model your life after, a great moral teacher and all these

00:43:18.240 things, and God and literally God, the son of God incarnate, second person of the Holy Trinity.

00:43:25.980 Or he's none of those things. Or he's not particularly intelligent, or at least he's not

00:43:32.980 particularly moral, or at least he's not someone to model your life after. He's not those things.

00:43:38.740 But what he can't be is a really intelligent, great moral teacher who's a liar or duped. He can't be

00:43:47.900 that thing. So the only view that is really not plausible at all is the view that you hold right

00:43:53.420 now. And so anyway, I think the evidence for Christ's divinity is manifest. And I think it's totally

00:44:01.800 persuasive. And I think the resurrection is totally persuasive. And I think that when you encounter

00:44:07.100 Christ, even just reading the Bible in your room, you have the reaction that you say, this is true. 1.00

00:44:14.800 This just rings true because you have reason and you are able to perceive the truth and it just kind

00:44:20.620 of stirs something in you. And I think all the history and the church and all the rest of it also

00:44:25.560 speak to that. But whatever answer you're going to, maybe you're going to really ask this question

00:44:31.720 and say, oh no, I think it's all fake. And you're going to be like a Reddit tier atheist or something.

00:44:34.700 I guess you could arrive at that conclusion, though it would be mistaken. But the one place

00:44:40.000 you can't remain is where you are right now. And your girlfriend's intuiting that. And she realizes

00:44:43.380 you're either going to fall one way or the other. And she doesn't want to bet her life on that kind

00:44:49.000 of instability. And I don't really blame her for it. So it's wonderful that you love your girlfriend.

00:44:52.320 You don't want to lose her. But I think you got to just buckle down on this question and come to

00:44:57.760 whatever the honest answer is and then be honest with your girlfriend. Okay, next question.

00:45:02.460 Hi, Michael. My name is Megan and I'm a devoted member of the Creme de la Creme.

00:45:06.940 Without getting into the details of why, I'm a divorced mother. I just turned 40 and I would

00:45:12.940 like to get remarried and maybe have one more kid. Due to recent events, I have been advised by the

00:45:19.260 internet that because I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that many other

00:45:24.220 Christians do not view me as a Christian. I would like your advice on how I can go about dating and

00:45:30.400 finding a godly man. Thank you for your advice. Okay, well, a lot of these questions are probably

00:45:37.640 a little above my pay grade given the particularity of your, you know, beliefs and religious practices.

00:45:45.180 Um, so I give you the, through my Catholic lens, I give you the view. Um, we don't believe in

00:45:54.100 divorce. You know, we don't think it's sacramentally possible. Um, however, it doesn't

00:46:00.420 mean that you're just necessarily consigned to, you know, throwing your hands in the air or something

00:46:04.540 like that. I guess the question would be, was your marriage valid in the first place? That's the,

00:46:11.280 that would be the first answer, the question that I would ask if I were trying to figure out if

00:46:14.820 someone could continue to date or whatever. Um, was your marriage valid in the first place? Was

00:46:19.760 something withheld, you know, unjustly before the marriage? Was it done with coercion or under

00:46:25.120 duress? Or this is why the Catholic Church has, um, nullment investigations. Uh, is, is the marriage

00:46:31.980 reparable? Maybe not. Um, anyway, so that would be how I would first approach that question. Now put

00:46:37.800 that aside for a second. Let's get to your second question. Your second question is, you know, look,

00:46:41.400 I'm Mormon and people don't consider me Christian. And you are, you are just going to encounter that

00:46:46.880 because, uh, you know, LDS doesn't affirm the Nicene Creed say, or the, uh, you know, the Trinity,

00:46:54.960 the central mystery of the faith. And so I don't, I don't think you're going to persuade a lot of

00:47:01.440 Protestants or Catholics that, you know, it's, it's all the same thing. And I say, this is someone who

00:47:07.300 really, really loves the LDS. I was with a good LDS friend of mine just a few days ago. Um,

00:47:13.560 but I, I just think if you're going to remain and within that religious view and religious tradition,

00:47:19.120 um, you're going to be running up against a wall if you're going to try to convince, uh,

00:47:24.140 Protestants or Catholics or Eastern Orthodox or whatever, that it's the same view. Uh, I don't

00:47:29.920 think it's really going to work. So I guess as a, as a practical matter, you, you could,

00:47:34.040 assuming the question of the knowledge of the marriage or whatever is figured out,

00:47:39.060 you could, you could continue to date within LDS. Um, but anyway, those are, those are all just

00:47:45.100 little hints of how to maybe try to proceed. Uh, but I really, I, I feel for the position that

00:47:51.060 you're in. It's a very, very difficult position. And I, you know, sometimes on the internet is you're

00:47:57.540 describing these kinds of feuds with people on Twitter or something. Sometimes people just view

00:48:02.260 everything as a cold intellectual calculation. And that's not really what you're talking about.

00:48:05.760 You're saying, look, I'm a human being. I've had this problem. It's a fallen world. And you know,

00:48:09.940 I've got my kid and I've got, uh, I'd like to, this marriage fell apart and I'd like to date. And

00:48:14.980 it's, you know, it's, it's like a real personal social kind of question. And so I really feel for

00:48:20.540 you. I think we can all pray for you and your difficult situation and then hope you can navigate

00:48:25.880 things in such a way that, that are conducive to the truth and therefore conducive to your flourishing

00:48:29.980 because you, you know, you're not, I don't think you're, you're exactly going to flourish and be

00:48:37.360 happy if you, if you pursue a line of life that is, that is contrary to the truth, trying to paper

00:48:45.000 over things, you know, that's, it's not going to work. You're going to, you're going to face the

00:48:49.000 problem that you're facing right now, which is you're, you're trying to beat your head against a

00:48:51.760 wall, trying to convince, you know, like a Southern Baptist or something that LDS theology is

00:48:56.020 substantially the same as, as, uh, his theology. It's not, not going to work. Okay. Uh, it is

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 31, 2025

Ep. 1847 - What No One Noticed About Sydney Sweeney's Dress

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