Ep. 185 - Those Who Don’t Read Bad Philosophy Are Doomed To Repeat It
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a freshman congresswoman running for president in 2020. She's a socialist, a millennial socialist, and she's got a plan to fix the economy. In this episode of The Michael Knowles Show, Michael talks about why she's the perfect Democratic candidate, and why she should win the 2020 election.
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Three quarters of Democrats want to nominate a fresh face for president in 2020,
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as public opinion polls show the party veering sharply to the left. All of this is bad news,
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of course, for the reanimated corpse of former future president Hillary Clinton. But it's great
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news for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the wild-eyed, fresh-faced socialist fraud with wind between
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her ears. Then, Lisa DePasquale will stop by to discuss these youths in her new book,
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The Social Justice Warrior Handbook, a practical survival guide for snowflakes,
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millennials, and Generation Z. Because all of nature is but art unknown to thee,
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an underestimated, straight-shooting American president meets with a Russian dictator on this
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day in history. Finally, a British baby sentenced to death in the United Kingdom is alive today
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because this is America. This is America. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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In the spirit of communism and socialism and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I'm not going to do any ads
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today because money's bad, man. You know, money is real. I don't want to make any money. Money is
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terrible. I don't want to keep the lights on. Wouldn't it be cool if we could all just like
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hang out and write poetry? So no ads today. That's my mark for socialism because there's a
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really scary statistics going around about how millennials have embraced socialism and apparently
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like eschewing all education whatsoever. And this is the wave of the future. This is the wave
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of the Democratic Party future. A major difference between leftists and conservatives is that leftists
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read Karl Marx and conservatives understand Karl Marx. Nowhere is this more evident than this girl,
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who she went on the public affairs show on PBS, Firing Line. It's the reboot of
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the Bill Buckley show, and this one is hosted by Margaret Hoover. And she just spewed ignorance.
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She kind of laughed about how ignorant she is. It's blithe ignorance. And she's an unrepentant,
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radical socialist. The numbers of that are going way, way up. It's really scary. On this question,
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you know, leftists read Marx, conservatives understand Marx. Here enters Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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talking about unemployment. I'm not the left versus the right. Right. Now the economy is going pretty
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strong, right? There's roughly 4% unemployment, 3.9% unemployment. Do you think that capitalism has
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failed to deliver for working class Americans or is no longer the best vehicle for working class
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Americans? Well, I think the numbers that you just talked about is part of the problem, right? Because
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we look at these figures and we say, oh, unemployment is low. Everything is fine, right? Well, unemployment is
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low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week
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and can barely feed their kids. And so I do think that right now when we have this no holds barred,
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wild west hyper capitalism, what that means is profit at any cost. Capitalism has not always
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existed in the world and it will not always exist in the world. Where do I begin with that? This is,
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by the way, I got to tell you, this lady is probably the Democrats' best shot at messaging in
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November because right now everything is going so, so well in every area of public policy, foreign
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affairs, domestic affairs, but especially the economy. And that's the undeniable part. Right
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now the economy is booming. We're basically the strongest economy we've ever had. The Federal
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Reserve is seeing more growth. They're observing more growth, projecting more growth. The International
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Monetary Fund is crediting Donald Trump's policies with global economic growth, not just American
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economic growth. The tax cuts, people are seeing that in their paychecks. Unfortunately, about 80%
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of Americans use direct deposit. So they're not necessarily seeing the benefits of tax reform
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in every single paycheck, but they are seeing it when April rolls around. They're also seeing it
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because the corporate tax rate was slashed. So we're seeing just the economy is just roaring right
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now. It's doing pretty well. Also, for the first time in over a decade, wages are rising. Wages have
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not been rising. And there are a number of reasons for that. A lot of economic reasons, some reasons
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with regard to migration and immigration, but we're seeing wages rising pretty significantly
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for the first time in a long time. So everything's going so well. And what is the Democrat answer? The
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socialist answer is, don't believe your lion eyes. Good economies are bad. Up is down. War is peace. That's
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what they're saying. How Orwellian. This is the new speak. And she's saying, oh yeah, low unemployment,
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it's really, really bad because that means people are working. And working is terrible. I hate working.
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Don't you? Look, I've done a lot in my life to avoid working. The only book I've ever written
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doesn't have any words. But I got to tell you, working is a good thing. People feel better when
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they're working. God in the Garden of Eden doesn't just say, hey, Adam, loaf around all day. He says,
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you have to cultivate the garden before the fall. He says, you have to cultivate the garden. You have to
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name the beasts. You have to, you know, tend to this world that I've given you. You have dominion
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over it and you have to cultivate it. Working is good. When people retire, they just like wither
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away and die. Not all the time. People can enjoy retirement, but they have to be doing something.
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If you're, you know, you can, look, if you retire, you can, you know, join a non-profit. You can
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volunteer at the church. You can see your family a lot and sort of spend a lot of time with them.
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If you sit on a couch and watch TV, you're not going to last very long. People are meant to work.
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And this happened during the Obamacare debates. The Democrats, Nancy Pelosi said, look, one of the
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reasons that people stay in their jobs is to keep their health care. But we don't want that. We
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don't want people to feel like they have to work. We want them to be able to quit their jobs and
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they'll have more time to write poetry and walk through the woods and, you know, just do. No,
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that's bad. People don't like that. Idle hands are the devil's playground. You do have to work.
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And it's the only answer they have. By the way, the reason unemployment is low right now is not
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because people have two jobs. That doesn't make any sense, right? She's pulling that out of thin
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air because, you know, the people are really, really overworked. Right now, look, the evidence
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is that wages are going up. There are more jobs than people to fill them. So this is good. This
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is a great time to be an American worker. Best time in a very long time. But imagine how removed
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she is from the real economic circumstances of people on the ground. You know, leftists,
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socialists, communists like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, they're ideologues who say, who cares
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if the economy is working in practice? Does it work in theory? Does it work in theory? You know,
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how removed she's trying to portray herself as this, you know, downtrodden, hard worker from the Bronx,
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you know, who grew up in dire poverty and had no opportunities. That's not true. She grew up a town
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away from where I did in Westchester County. She grew up in a more affluent town in one of the
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most affluent counties in the country. And she had all of those opportunities. Her candidacy is
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premised on this idea. She says, people like me aren't supposed to run for office. What, affluent
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people who went to expensive private colleges and got extraordinarily good public education?
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They're not supposed to go to, they're not, who's supposed to be a politician then? People like me
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aren't really rich, privileged people or not. Are you kidding me? That's absurd. Even
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if you grew up without a lot of money in your family in, in Westchester County, going to those
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schools, like, like I did too, we have basically parallel stories. You still are so far, I mean,
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you were, you were at the, the crux of privilege in the United States, which means, and if you're
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just born in the United States, you're at the height of privilege in the world. Uh, so it's this
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totally disingenuous thing. And her answer is no, money's bad. That's basically her answer,
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right? That's just saying, no, it's bad for people to, you know, you don't, they shouldn't work.
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They should get everything for free. But then here comes the best part of her, uh, of her
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interview on this program, the Margaret Hoover show, because it really, it really highlights what,
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what these young lefty millennials are like. Here she is talking about Israel, Palestine.
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I also think that what people are starting to see, at least in, in the occupation, uh, of,
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of Palestine is, um, just an increasing crisis of humanitarian condition. You use the term the
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occupation of Palestine? Um, I think it, what I meant is like the, the settlements, places where,
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um, where Palestinians are experiencing, uh, difficulty. Do you think you can expand on that?
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I am not the expert on geopolitics on this issue. This girl has a degree from an expensive private
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university in international relations. She's because she says, I'm not an expert on a basic
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question of foreign policy. She's running for Congress. She's almost certainly going to win
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that seat for Congress, but that was her degree. She's got to call up BU and get a refund. Apparently
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Yorktown high school isn't as good as we all thought it was. Unbelievable. And it really, by the way,
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I don't mean to just pick on her. I actually kind of feel bad for this girl because she is so,
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so profoundly ignorant and sort of blithely ignorant and proudly ignorant. But you know,
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this is a real problem of education because she knows the slogans. Democrats know the slogans. They
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know the talking points. She's, she's refers to the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Can you,
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can you tell us more about that? It's not like Margaret Hoover was trying to get her. Can you tell us
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more is not a gotcha question. You know, she says, could you expand on that? And Ocasio-Cortez
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goes, no, no, I can't. I don't know anything. Next question, pass. Excuse me. Yeah, I'll pass.
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I think I'll pass on that question. Just moves right along. This is a trouble of millennial
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education because first of all, there's no country called Palestine. There's never been a country
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called Palestine. As I mentioned on Fox this morning, it's the country to the east of Narnia
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and the west of Wakanda. It's not a country. It's just an ideological talking point. But the way that
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millennials were educated, and I can really speak to this. I went to high school in the town over from
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where she went to high school at the same time. We're the same age. I know a lady doesn't tell
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her age, but she and I are the same age. And the way that we were educated, I don't blame the
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teachers. I have had wonderful teachers. The curricula all across the country, and especially
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in New York, focus on not having students learn names, dates, facts, details. What they focus on
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is broad themes. You don't need to know the facts. Look, you have an iPhone. You can always look up
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the facts. Just know the broad themes. Just know our ideological position. And don't look too closely
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into those details because that might contradict the position. It's a real fear. It's a trouble in
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education more broadly over the last few decades, which is that people don't read the original texts.
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They read Howard Zinn talking about the framers and the founders of the United States. They read these
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left-wing ideologues. And so they just get this sort of glib talking points. They don't know the
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facts. And then the moment that someone says, oh, tell me more about that opinion. She goes,
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oh, well, I'm not an expert. And by the way, she finishes that clip. She goes, oh, I'm not an expert
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on this. But I firmly believe. And this is like one of the most bothersome things that millennials do.
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They say, oh, I didn't read that book, but here's what I think about it. Oh, I didn't see the movie,
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but here's what I think about it. You know, they're frequently wrong, but never in doubt. They have opinions
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on things that they don't know anything about. And I say that Ocasio-Cortez is proudly ignorant
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because she doesn't have humility. What a person who had any humility would say is, first of all,
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someone running for office should know about Israel-Palestine. They should know about problems
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in the Middle East. This is a sort of basic aspect of international relations. And as someone who has a
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degree in international relations, certainly should know about that. But I don't really blame her for
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being ignorant. People are ignorant all the time. It's the pride of it. She says, you know,
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if you had humility, you would say, I don't know about this. And so I'm going to have to do some
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research. And I'll get back to you when I've thought about this more. She says, well, I don't
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know anything about this, but I'm pretty sure that I'm right. Let me tell you, you should believe what
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I think that I think, even though I don't know anything. That is a real problem. And it's a crux of
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millennials. And it is part of the reason, by the way, why socialism is creeping in in such huge
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numbers. You know, she says these things. This woman is a communist. I mean, she's a member of
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the Democrat Socialists of America. She says that capitalism won't be around forever. She doesn't
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know what capitalism is. Capitalism is a word that was invented in the 1820s and really popularized
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later in the 19th century by Marx and Engels. And it's to refer to economic freedom. I don't even
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usually use the word capitalism because I think it's a contrivance of socialists. It was invented
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by socialists to criticize them. So I don't, capitalism means economic freedom. I use economic
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freedom. Do you think people should be able to use their money how they want to use their money,
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buy what they want, have freedom, have choice? Well, then you're a capitalist. If you don't like
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that, then you're anti-capitalist. She's anti-capitalist. People, you know, it's true. Capitalism hasn't
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always existed. Freedom of enterprise hasn't always existed. That's a bad thing. It just
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means that certain governments have abridged liberty and certain governments have allowed
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liberty. And she says, we need less liberty. I hope we have less liberty. She uses these sort of
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capitalist, or communist rather, talking points of late-stage capitalism, you know.
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The Democrats have always done this. In the Bush years, they would say, we need no war for oil.
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You say, when did we have a war for oil? Yo, Bush! Did we get any oil? How much oil did we get?
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I don't know. Oh, none. We didn't get any oil. We probably should have gotten some oil,
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and we didn't get any oil. They say, Bush lied. People died. You say, Bush lied, huh? Yeah. What
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do you lie about? The weapons. And what was the lie? First of all, Saddam Hussein did have weapons
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of mass destruction. Second of all, all of the intelligence communities around the world said
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that the weapons existed. It's not a lie. Even if there weren't, which there were, by the way,
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but even if there weren't weapons, it isn't a lie. To lie, you have to intentionally not tell the
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truth. Oh, Trump colluded with Russia. What's your evidence that Trump colluded with Russia?
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They just know the slogans, and it's really sad. But right now, among these millennials,
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millennials broadly, not just Democrats, half of millennials identify as socialist,
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according to some new polls. That is horrifying. The Democratic Socialists of America,
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which had just 5,000 members less than two years ago. 2016, they had 5,000 members. 2018,
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fast forward two years, that number has gone up eightfold to 40,000 members. That is a terrifying
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statistic. It's gone up eight times in just two years. That momentum isn't going to stop.
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Part of it is that millennials don't remember communism. They were born as Cortez and I were,
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both, you know, in the, as the Berlin Wall was falling down, and because they're uneducated.
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They think history begins when they were born. You know, they don't, they don't. Even the ones who
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have studied history haven't really studied history broadly. They've studied people,
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polemicists writing about history, like Howard Zinn. And the Democrats have moved very far to the left
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here. We're going to get to Lisa DePasquale in a second, because she's the expert on these millennial
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SJWs. But just some scary statistics. The Democrats have moved far to the left. According to Pew,
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a study that came out of Pew Research last year, the parties have moved apart from one another,
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but most of that movement, the vast majority of that movement is Democrats moving to the left.
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The GOP hasn't moved that much further to the right. It's the Democrats moving to the left.
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71% of Democrats right now believe that we should go into debt to increase welfare spending,
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spend money that we don't have, borrow money from China to just dole it out to the poor and
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redistribute wealth. That's up 17 percentage points in just six years. The GOP has moved just one
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percentage point on this issue. It's dropped down just one percent. Democrats have moved 17
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percentage points to the left. In 1994, the question was asked by Pew, do immigrants strengthen
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the country overall, or are they a boon to the country? The parties basically were in agreement.
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Democrats said 32 percent yes. GOP said 30 percent yes. Now, the GOP has actually moved in that direction
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to 42 percent. Democrats have way more than doubled. It's up one and a half times on that question.
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84 percent of Democrats say yes. Immigrants are a spoon to the country. That's a huge divergence.
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On the question, is racial discrimination the main reason that blacks can't get ahead? The main reason,
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not that it doesn't exist at all, not over their isolated instances, is racial discrimination the
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main reason that some black people can't get ahead? That number, when Democrats were asked that
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question in 2010, not that long ago, 28 percent said yes. Now, today, 64 percent say yes. The
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question, basic questions of political philosophy, is religion required for morality? The Democrat no
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answer is up 13 percentage points just since 2011. These numbers are moving way, way faster than
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anyone would expect. This is a bad sign, and it's having some negative consequences because they're
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appointing these sort of witless people who haven't ever studied the things that they're talking about.
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They don't know anything that they're talking about. They're radical leftists. And some people
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are trying to pump the brakes now. You know, leading Democrats are realizing this. Here's Barack Obama
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just today or yesterday trying to pump the brakes on all of this. But democracy demands that we're able
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also to get inside the reality of people who are different than us so we can understand their point of
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view. Maybe we can change their minds, but maybe they'll change ours. And you can't do this if you just out of
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hand disregard what your opponents have to say from the start. And you can't do it if you insist that those who
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aren't like you, because they're white or because they're male, that somehow there's no way they can understand
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what I'm feeling, that somehow they lack standing to speak on certain matters.
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Who's that guy? Does anyone, can anyone recognize that guy? Because he looks like Barack Obama,
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but he sounds like the opposite of Barack Obama. This is being reported. He just gave this speech,
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this was a speech about Nelson Mandela, and it's being reported. Obama issues stern rebuke to Trump.
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No, Obama issues a stern rebuke to Obama. He's criticizing his own, the tone that he set in
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the White House for the past eight years, or for the eight years that he was president. You know,
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he's talking about the politics of fear, resentment, retrenchment. This is the guy who said,
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I'm going to fundamentally transform America. I'm going to get rid of all those bitter clingers,
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those rubes who cling to their guns and religion. He painted the White House rainbow colors as a
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rebuke to people who support the Constitution in a traditional view of marriage. He said that those in
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power seek to undermine every institution. That gives democracy meaning. This is the guy
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undermining institutions. He went up and gave the State of the Union, and he insulted the Supreme
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Court right to their faces when they couldn't respond to it. He was utterly undermining the Supreme
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Court. He was the one who said that, his surrogate said that Republican congressmen are terrorists.
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He said he's going to roll over Congress because he has a pen and a phone. This is the guy
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undermining institutions. It's outrageous. This is the guy politicizing the IRS to attack
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his political opponents. Politicizing, it appears, the FBI to attack and investigate his political
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opponents. And this, where was this Barack Obama? In 2012, this guy's vice president, not just
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running mate, sitting vice president, said that the Republican nominee was trying to put black people
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back in chains. That's what he said. He said that Trayvon Martin, a guy who was killed in a sort of
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cloud of mystery, but whom we know was viciously beating the guy who killed him, beating his head
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against the pavement. We saw photos of the injuries. He said, oh, he could have been my son.
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What do you mean he could have been your son? Because he's black? Barack Obama's saying all
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black people look alike, basically? It's outrageous. He wouldn't have been Barack Obama's son. He
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doesn't look like him either. You know, who attacked the Cambridge police because of a local affair.
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You know, this is the guy. It's too little, too late, man. You let this loose. You opened up
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Pandora's box and now you're reaping the Alexandria Cortez, Ocasio-Cortez's because of it. You know,
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the Democratic Party is now in the grip of these guys. And this is why we've got to get to the
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expert. You know, they're in the grip of these aggrieved social justice warrior, entitled,
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Lightly Educated Millennials. And the expert of this, the author to help us understand of the
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social justice warrior handbook is Elisa De Pasquale, a practical survival guide for snowflakes
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millennials and Generation Z. Elisa, thank you for being here.
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Hi there. Thanks for having me. I'm so glad to now only be one degree away from Tom Arnold.
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I'm really, I'm the far degraded Kevin Bacon pivot point here. You know, just bringing us all.
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Well, Tom has been tweeting me a lot today because of the apparent evidence that President Trump is
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now a Russian asset. Do you think it's an open and shut case, isn't it? That Trump is a Russian
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asset? Yeah, I mean, I, you know, we knew that in October 2016, right? You know, it's, it's funny
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because he, Tom tweeted me today. He said, see, are you finally going to apologize and admit that Trump's
00:22:06.100
a Russian asset? I said, you know, the fact that he took that soccer ball and threw it off the stage
00:22:10.760
like a hot potato. That's how I know that President Trump is a red blooded American.
00:22:15.180
And, but I'm, I am worried about the future of the country. It, in one, because I look at people like
00:22:19.720
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and also because I read your book. Before we begin, I have to say,
00:22:26.780
I'm seeing some, a little bit of plagiarism in here, Lisa, from another important book.
00:22:31.080
There's almost a whole chapter I took word for word from your book.
00:22:35.260
It's really, at least you abridged it though. It's only about 10 or 15 pages in there of absolute
00:22:40.820
blankness. But I think it's just as complete as your book, which I didn't read, but I am an expert
00:22:45.980
on. Well, that's, it's the one book where you can not read it and be an expert. You know, my first
00:22:51.340
question, because I really did enjoy the book and I encourage people to go out there and buy it and
00:22:55.980
read it. It's really funny. What is it with these guys? What is it with this generation?
00:23:00.660
We beat up on millennials all the time and I want to do it some more. What's their problem?
00:23:05.460
I think part of it is actually kind of a lack of culture. I mean, I'm, um,
00:23:10.920
Generation X. I know I look super young, but I'm 41. And, you know, a lady doesn't tell her age,
00:23:16.540
as I always pointed out that I'm Alexandria's age too. Yeah. I mean, I don't mind saying it because
00:23:23.100
I'd rather be called Gen X than a millennial. Fair point. Maybe I'm going to be trans ageist. I'm
00:23:27.920
going to be 41 too. Yeah. Identify as a Gen Xer. Um, but I think part of it is looking for some sort
00:23:34.200
of culture and of their own. And they do that, I think, by separating themselves and by creating
00:23:40.160
their own rules. Um, you know, for instance, um, appropriation, things like that. I mean,
00:23:45.300
I'm appropriating, um, Mexican culture, I guess. Um, and just sort of setting up their own,
00:23:52.500
their own rules. I mean, you can go into a hot topic and you don't see their own bands. You see,
00:23:58.480
uh, you know, seventies and eighties, sixties, seventies and eighties bands. Um, and there's
00:24:05.380
just sort of a generation lost because as far as their knowledge, like you said, history begins the
00:24:10.460
day they were born. Um, but as, as, as culture, I don't think they, they really have it. I mean,
00:24:15.620
they don't have the stuff that we identify so much. And part of that is because there are so many
00:24:19.840
niches. I mean, there's not, you know, the one TV show that they all sat down and watched as,
00:24:24.360
as kids like, like we did. Right. Which, which was Nick at night. And that's why I identify as a
00:24:30.880
75 year old at this point. The, I think you've, you've hit on it because it isn't just that they're,
00:24:36.820
uh, poorly educated because, and I think there is a real problem of education for the millennial
00:24:41.560
generation, but people can always read books. You can always try to ameliorate that. The, the issue is
00:24:46.260
the lack of culture. Uh, and those are different things. You know, they don't, a couple generations
00:24:51.320
ago, you could play people excerpts of classical music. You could reference certain great books or
00:24:57.880
novels. You could reference certain movies and people would get it. There was a, a sense of
00:25:01.900
cultural idioms that I think now just don't exist. Why is that? And is there any way to get that back?
00:25:09.140
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I think that's why things like blazing saddles were,
00:25:13.840
were, were, were okay. Um, because people didn't separate themselves so badly that they didn't know
00:25:20.420
what their black friends or, um, Hispanic friends or, or other friends would think if they were caught
00:25:25.920
watching it. They, they, they were already part of, uh, a big group and they didn't have to feel like
00:25:30.820
they were being judged. Um, or that people didn't know who they were, you know, based on, you know,
00:25:36.560
telling jokes or telling lines from, from a movie. And now part of it is also just that they're so
00:25:42.960
willing to put so much of their lives out there, you know, on Twitter, on Instagram or whatever the
00:25:48.060
kids are using Snapchat. I use my space. Yeah. Yeah. Facebook, um, that it's the culture I think
00:25:59.500
pushing back, but you know, what's interesting is you had mentioned the poll before about socialism,
00:26:04.860
but when you ask them individual issues, like, well, do you think that you should be able to use apps
00:26:10.260
like Uber and, and Rover and things like that on, on individual issues, they're more,
00:26:16.080
you know, capitalists or economic, they support economic freedom, but in general, they say they
00:26:21.180
support socialism. And so I don't know what the, the, um, the, the overlap is, but on the individual
00:26:30.560
issues, they do support economic freedom, but that's where you go back to the education in that
00:26:35.520
they don't know that they don't support socialism. Yeah. And they just think it sounds good because,
00:26:41.820
you know, they have a younger voice telling them that it does. The issue is the, is the blithe in
00:26:47.180
the blithe ignorance, you know, this sort of carefreeness, this cavalier ignorance where, and I,
00:26:52.500
I blame, I guess in part the, not just the education and the lack of culture, but the self-esteem
00:26:57.340
movement too, because they've always been told they're so, so special and everything they do is
00:27:01.540
great and they're, they can do whatever they want to do and they're going to be wonderful. And that,
00:27:06.500
you know, on just on a very basic level, that isn't true. You know, that, that just isn't the
00:27:10.980
case. I played little league baseball for eight years and I leaned into pitches because I like Don
00:27:15.780
Baylor. I mean, I was a pretty good, you know, I was pretty good at getting on base, but I couldn't
00:27:19.100
hit that ball. And I have eight trophies from it. I have eight participation trophies. And that, that,
00:27:25.000
uh, the, the, what we were always told is that when the millennials get into the real world,
00:27:29.500
the real world is going to hit them like a freight train and they're going to grow up.
00:27:33.100
But, uh, when you look around, I, I don't see that happening. I see people like Alexandria court,
00:27:38.780
Ocasio-Cortez going on TV and saying, Oh yeah, I guess I don't know that very important issue.
00:27:43.540
Ha ha ha. Posh, posh, posh. I'm going to do to do. I'm just going to go right to Congress.
00:27:47.260
Are they just going to be able to be kids forever? I mean, so many of them are living with their
00:27:51.720
parents. So many of them are not paying bills. Every millennial is on their parents' cell phone plan. I mean,
00:27:56.680
they're going to, they're going to have like grandchildren before they get off their parents'
00:27:59.860
cell phone plan. A lot of them don't even pay. That's, I think the workaround that they found.
00:28:04.760
And that's like a big topic in the social justice warrior handbook is the workaround of living with
00:28:09.980
your parents. And then now they have like adult day camps or, or, um, summer camps. They have,
00:28:16.940
I mean, the term that I can't stand is adulting, you know, like I can't adult today.
00:28:22.420
They use it as a verb. Yeah. I have to adult today because I have to pay my bills. Like I don't even,
00:28:29.160
I don't even think about it as, you know, behavior that's optional. And there's, you know,
00:28:35.320
to me it was never optional whether or not to have cell phone plans. I mean, part of it might be
00:28:40.000
because when I was, I moved out of the house at 18, um, cell phones were barely a thing. So it
00:28:46.500
wasn't that big of a deal. I don't even think they had family plans. Um, but I think they found a way
00:28:52.840
and that's to prolong this adolescence as long as possible. Um, you know, it used to be, I mean,
00:28:58.620
kind of the cutoff was, uh, 26 when you started with the healthcare plan. Right. And then now it's
00:29:04.360
like 30 and then there's kind of no age on, on cell phones. Um, and then they're creating all this
00:29:09.300
adult type of behavior, like where you can go places and have nap time. You can go to a summer
00:29:14.660
camp, um, the coloring books, adult coloring books, which there's an activity and I actually call it
00:29:21.800
a dream book instead of a book because I think workbook is a little too demanding. That's right.
00:29:28.860
Here's the dream book right here at section four. Yep. It's very, yeah, it's a dream. You don't want
00:29:33.000
to, you can't work. You don't want to work. No, no, that that's right. I mean, that's absolutely
00:29:38.500
right. And I, I do worry that there's, you know, the, I guess it's just as with the ignorance,
00:29:44.580
just as with the uncultured, it's the blitheness of it all. They, they are cavalier about, uh,
00:29:51.280
their parents paying for their lifestyle. They're cavalier about not working. They're cavalier
00:29:55.660
about not having responsibility and I, and not knowing anything and not knowing any, you know,
00:30:01.220
I mean, they're even as a young man, you know, if, uh, right when I turned 18, you know, I, or 20 or
00:30:07.900
whatever, uh, because everyone's on their parents' cell phone plan. But I said like, I've got to pay,
00:30:12.560
I've got to pay for this. Or I feel weird. I like, it's nice to not have to pay, but you,
00:30:18.800
but there's this kind of anxiety that comes to it. You think I can't, I could never live in my
00:30:24.040
father's house as a 24 year old. I'd feel weird about that. I wouldn't want to do that. But there
00:30:30.160
are so many millennials who, who do want to do that. How, what is that psychology like? I mean,
00:30:35.420
where does that come from and is there any hope to fix it? Um, I think, you know, I, part of me
00:30:42.400
doesn't just blame millennials or, or, or younger, like I guess, Gen Z. Um, part of it I think is the
00:30:49.420
boomers and that's because they've been so, um, helpful. I mean, these are the, like the original
00:30:53.980
helicopter parents, um, that wanted, um, their kids to stay at home. I mean, it's like the smother on,
00:31:00.880
on the Goldbergs who doesn't want the babies to, to leave the nest. Uh, so I think they hold some of
00:31:06.940
the blame. Um, but now they're getting older, they're wanting to retire and they're looking and
00:31:12.720
they're like, well, wait, my kid's still here. You know, I'm ready to move to Costa Rica, but I can't
00:31:17.520
get the kid out of the house. Um, I mean, they're, they're even doing ads based on those things.
00:31:22.600
Um, there's an, um, a realtor ad that's, that's basically around that concept. And you have to
00:31:28.120
think if they're doing ads based on these concepts, they're not foreign to a lot of people. I mean,
00:31:33.640
these are real issues that, that people are dealing with. Um, so to me, they hold some blame in,
00:31:39.420
in prolonging this adolescence. Um, and I think that goes back to the culture and you have to make it
00:31:45.200
less accepting with the culture that, you know, if you're embarrassed to tell people, you know,
00:31:50.240
I live at home, if you're embarrassed to tell a date, um, do you want to come back to my parents
00:31:54.720
place? And then I think at that point is when you're going to start seeing the culture change.
00:31:59.240
Yeah. Yeah. That, that is back the shame. You've got it. Yeah. You need it because now millennials,
00:32:04.680
they're so afraid of shame. They say, stop body shaming, stop age shaming, stop. They do all this
00:32:11.060
shaming. Yeah. You need a little shame, man. The shame is a good thing. Shame. Well, uh, I really
00:32:17.200
enjoyed the book. I encourage people to go get it. The social justice warrior handbook,
00:32:20.420
a practical guide for, uh, snowflakes millennials and generation Z. I also do want to quote, I really
00:32:26.060
like Nick Searcy's blurb on it. Nick Searcy is a friend of the show. He comes and hangs out with us
00:32:31.360
sometimes. And he said, when it comes to political advice, you should only listen to Hollywood actors
00:32:35.500
like me, but if I'm unavailable, this book will do that really. And, and you've got, you've got some
00:32:40.700
great endorsements here. You've got, uh, Ann Coulter really recommends it. Uh, you know,
00:32:44.900
Searcy, a number of other people, and now, uh, a blank book author, right? Perhaps the most
00:32:50.240
entitled author ever there has been, uh, also really recommends it to go out there and get
00:32:54.600
it. Where can people find you, Lisa? Uh, they can find the book, um, on Amazon. They can find me
00:32:59.860
on Twitter at, at Lisa DEP. And, um, the website for the book is SJW handbook.com. Really good. Uh,
00:33:07.920
Lisa, thank you for being here. Lisa de Pasquale. We'll have to have you back and talk again.
00:33:12.020
Yes, for sure. Thanks. Okay. We've got a lot more to get to today. Uh, we've got to get to
00:33:17.700
two segments. This is America. And I'll probably do a little sink, do the dance and everything. Hey,
00:33:22.500
you know, and, uh, then we'll also have to get to this day in history because there is this weird
00:33:26.740
coincidence. There's real providence perhaps that the Trump Helsinki summit with a Russian dictator
00:33:32.060
coincides with the, uh, historical anniversary of the Potsdam conference when another straightforward
00:33:38.040
American president met with a Russian dictator. We'll get to that and we'll get to a great
00:33:41.700
story on this day in America, uh, or the, the state in America. This is America where we talk
00:33:46.600
about, uh, really the, the wonders of capitalism and free enterprise and freedom of movement that
00:33:52.420
saved a little British baby. Before that, I have to say goodbye to you. I have to, I have to get real
00:33:57.440
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00:34:01.600
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00:35:04.380
in history. We're back. So let's begin with this is America. We're running late as per usual,
00:35:20.560
as per usual, when I'm adult, I got to start adulting so I can keep my schedule properly.
00:35:24.900
But on, on this segment of this is America, I got to talk about baby Oliver. This is a great story.
00:35:32.160
Only in America would this be true. So you, you remember, you've heard these stories in the UK
00:35:35.760
of little Alfie Evans. He was the baby that the UK authorities, the national health service
00:35:41.480
said, he's got this disease. There's no way that he's going to live. The parents said, well, let,
00:35:46.300
let us take him to look for treatment elsewhere. They said, absolutely not. We own your baby.
00:35:50.340
You're not allowed to do it. I mean, even you've got the Pope trying to intervene. You've got the,
00:35:54.320
the Italian government offering babies like Alfie Evans or Charlie Gard
00:35:58.300
citizenship so that they can come there and get, get help they need. And they said, nope,
00:36:02.760
you're not going to do it with this baby has to die. We are going to make this baby die. And he's
00:36:07.180
going to die with dignity. That's the new euphemism they use when they refuse people the liberty to try
00:36:12.580
to care for their own children and try to save their own children. So this baby, baby Oliver was
00:36:19.000
diagnosed with cardiac fibroma, which is an exceedingly rare, uh, affliction of the heart where he had this
00:36:26.360
huge tumor in his heart. Little baby Oliver has a huge tumor. And the, the doctors there had never
00:36:31.340
seen anything like this. A lot of them didn't know what it was, didn't know what it could be. And all of
00:36:35.700
the doctors in the UK said, we can't treat it. The only way that we can try to save his life is with a
00:36:40.680
heart transplant. But the trouble is, is as in all socialistic systems, there are long waiting lines. And
00:36:46.480
for, uh, for a baby, it's virtually impossible. Most likely the baby would have just died waiting to get a
00:36:52.340
heart transplant and it would have been very, very risky. They said this tumor just cannot be removed.
00:36:56.740
Sorry, your kid is going to die. There's nothing you can do about it. So what happens? The parents
00:37:01.100
say, can we look elsewhere in the UK and national health service? And its typical way says, nope,
00:37:06.100
sorry, no way. No, no, we're not going to pay for anything. We're not going to let you look. Nope.
00:37:09.620
Your kid's probably going to die. And so the Boston children's hospital hears about this and they post
00:37:15.160
and they say, we can help. I know that you British socialist healthcare system, you can't help,
00:37:20.160
but we can help because we, because of our free enterprise, we have far better care,
00:37:24.800
more innovative care. And we're, and we're going to allow you to do it. We're going to give you the
00:37:28.740
freedom to try to pay for your, your kid to live. And so the national health service in the UK hears
00:37:33.720
about this and what do they do? They say, nope, we're not going to pay for that. We're not going
00:37:37.320
to pay to transport. We're not going to send any doctors. Nope. Sorry. The kid has to die. Die with
00:37:42.220
dignity. He's got to die. All that, you know, all that dignity of death and that's so dignified.
00:37:46.980
Uh-uh. So the parents started a fundraiser and they raised almost all of the money that was
00:37:52.000
needed to do it themselves. And I think because of all the bad press the NHS has recently received,
00:37:56.480
they finally caved on this. They said, oh yeah, sure. Oh, you wanted to save your kid. Oh yeah,
00:38:01.700
no, we're, we want, that's good. We do that. So what about for the last year you've been letting
00:38:06.960
those other kids die and refusing to let their parents, oh no, that would, that would, no,
00:38:10.220
we love saving kids. Okay. So they finally cave once there's enough publicity, enough money raised.
00:38:14.060
And they even sent a couple of doctors to go with the kid. And the, at the Boston hospital,
00:38:20.000
Boston Children's Hospital, they said, look, it's a huge tumor. It's really where we don't know if we
00:38:23.800
can remove the whole thing. We'll do our best. What do they do? Because this is America. They
00:38:27.720
removed the whole tumor. They removed the whole thing in this miraculous surgery. They were,
00:38:32.500
everybody was shocked that this could happen. And now the kid gets to live, which is a very good
00:38:37.180
thing. Only in America could that happen. Not in the United Kingdom, not elsewhere in the world.
00:38:40.880
And why though? Why? I wish Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would watch my show so that she could
00:38:47.240
learn these wonderful things about the capitalist system she so derides. It's because we have freedom
00:38:52.900
and freedom, you know, it is true that freedom allows people to risk things. You can, in a free
00:39:00.240
enterprise system, you have the right to lose your own money. You have the right to make trouble for
00:39:04.740
yourself, but you also have the right to be, to have ingenuity and to save yourself and to save your
00:39:09.960
kids. And the UK, they're focusing on death with dignity. These are the ghouls who want to
00:39:17.320
fundamentally change the medical profession from only caring for people and helping people and
00:39:22.480
helping to save people to killing them, to assisted suicide, to killing people because death is better
00:39:28.180
than life. It's an anti-life movement. And death with dignity means that you don't value life. In
00:39:33.360
America, we have a life with dignity. We say you can live with dignity. When you die, look, we're all
00:39:37.860
headed for the same place. We're all going to have our bodies turned to worm food at some point,
00:39:41.920
but not today. You can live with dignity. And there's another aspect of this, which is economic,
00:39:46.100
and it's the scarcity mindset and the abundance mindset. In socialistic countries and economies
00:39:51.980
and societies, they have a scarcity mindset. There's a pie and it's this big and everyone's
00:39:55.840
going to get some of that pie and that's all there is. The abundance mindset is bake more pie.
00:39:59.960
The pie can grow. Economies are not static. Societies are not static. You can have innovation.
00:40:04.520
You can have abundance. You can grow and grow and grow. And you don't have that. I mean,
00:40:09.460
Margaret Thatcher spelled it out very well. She said the socialists, they just want to reduce
00:40:13.680
economic inequality. Even if everybody is lower, they want the difference to be down here rather
00:40:18.540
than have some more inequality. But everybody is doing much, much better. You know, it's not,
00:40:23.400
the economy is not just a pie. You can have abundance and you can say, yes, we can do it.
00:40:27.860
That is the outlook because socialism, I think Winston Churchill, I'm going to paraphrase this
00:40:33.160
because I'm not going to get the quote right. But it's a philosophy of failure and the gospel
00:40:37.120
of envy. You know, it's this, it's just this very dour, down-looking, scarce, decrepit philosophy.
00:40:45.200
And it's a 200-year-old philosophy, 150-year-old philosophy. There's nothing new about it. There's
00:40:49.620
nothing innovative. But abundance and innovation, that's always the American spirit. And we see
00:40:55.960
evidence of this. We see wonderful example because it saved a British baby's life. Very good stuff.
00:41:00.460
Before I let you all go today, we've got to talk also in this day in history because all of nature
00:41:05.140
is but art unknown to thee and chance direction which thou canst not see. Everyone's talking
00:41:09.240
about Russia and, you know, I've got Tom Arnold tweeting at me and saying that Trump's a traitor
00:41:13.080
because he made some perhaps loose comments yesterday at a press conference that it changes
00:41:20.040
practically nothing about American foreign policy. And he did accomplish a few important things too.
00:41:24.960
But on this day in history, 1945, President Truman met at the Potsdam conference. It was the big
00:41:32.700
three. He met Winston Churchill was there and also Joseph Stalin, the, this, you know, the, the worst
00:41:38.900
dictator ever, one of the worst dictators and the Soviet dictator. So as strange coincidence, who knows
00:41:43.780
if it was planned that way. It's hard for me to imagine that it wasn't planned with some sense of the
00:41:48.140
calendar. But they met there and Truman and Trump have, uh, uh, some similarities. You know, they're
00:41:53.620
both, both underestimated, both considered kind of stupid. They came from industries that are not
00:41:59.120
traditionally political. A lot of people think that they were too, that they talk too straight in a,
00:42:04.240
too straightforward a manner. You know, they're too blunt. And what happens at that conference, by the
00:42:08.480
way, is that, uh, Truman mentioned to Stalin, he said, you know, we've got this new bomb that's much
00:42:16.580
more destructive than any bomb we've ever had. And it's reported differently by different people. But he
00:42:21.560
told Stalin about the bomb that they were about to use. They sort of agonized over this. They said, should
00:42:25.740
we surprise the Soviets and just use the bomb on the Japanese and end this war and they'll learn about
00:42:31.060
it when we blow it up? Or do we want to give them a heads up because they're our allies in this war? They
00:42:35.040
ultimately decided on the latter. But from everyone in attendance, Churchill said this, Anthony Eden said
00:42:40.400
this, uh, Truman said this. Everyone said that Stalin didn't really react. He said, oh, that's good. You got a
00:42:46.500
good bomb. Use it against the Japanese and the war. And it was only later on that some of the Russian
00:42:52.000
ministers said, oh yeah, Stalin played it very cool in the moment. But he immediately got down that night
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and said, we've got to start building this, our bomb faster. We've got to catch up with them. Uh, what we,
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what we do know though, is that the, the event, the historical ramifications of that event only became
00:43:09.360
clear much later. You know, uh, when you're dealing, it's not like these are straightforward
00:43:13.880
negotiations and summits. When you're dealing with these people, you know, the Soviet dictators are
00:43:19.800
killers, they're sharks. And what we think is the obvious way to deal with them is not always the
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obvious way. And, and the ramifications will be clear later on. So everyone is freaking out over
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this Trump press conference with Putin. What we really need to do is pump the brakes and see what
00:43:35.480
happens, you know, because it's, these things are not clear in the moment. They'll become clear over
00:43:39.760
time. Uh, Putin said, I don't trust Trump. Trump doesn't trust me. What will come of this will be
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clear over time. Are we allowed to, are we going to work with, uh, the Russians? Are we going to
00:43:49.900
share some strategic interests or are we going to have just an acrimonious eight years and then another
00:43:55.440
eight years of the Pence administration and then who knows it'll go on and on and on. Are we, what are
00:43:59.380
we going to have? Everybody take a breather. It's okay. These, this has happened before the, the United
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States didn't fall apart yesterday. It's all right. It's a, it's going just fine. There was a good
00:44:09.540
NATO summit. We got a lot of good, uh, progress there as the New York times admits, president
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Trump accomplished much of what Barack Obama tried to accomplish and failed to accomplish. And as the,
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you know, the Democrats were always pushing for that Russian reset, the Bush administration was
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pushing to reset relations with Russia and get out on a good foot. You know, George W. Bush said,
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I saw Vladimir Putin's soul in his eyes and pretty dark and black place and, and Vladimir Putin's soul
00:44:37.100
just like the fires of hell glowing behind them. And, you know, president Trump goes there and he
00:44:41.540
says, oh yeah, you know, look, we were a little bit to blame too for, uh, for the, the problems in
00:44:47.160
the, uh, relationship between the U S and Russia. These are just things that people say, we'll see how
00:44:51.520
that relationship goes moving forward, but take a breather. You know, on this point to another
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coincidence on this day in history in 1776, Congress learned that the, the British general
00:45:02.380
Howe had, uh, offered a peace deal to general Washington. You know, the British had landed,
00:45:09.020
Washington had moved his troops from Boston down to New York. The British could, you know,
00:45:12.280
ready to wipe them out. But general Howe said, you know, we'll, we'll, uh, just try to negotiate
00:45:17.740
some peace and we'll let the colonies come back in and no harm, no foul. And he sent an emissary to
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Washington and Washington read the letter and the letter did not begin with the word general.
00:45:29.200
Didn't say general Washington. He wouldn't address him as general. And Washington was so insulted by
00:45:34.220
this. He sent them packing. He ripped it up. He said, not a chance. And this is a little, uh,
00:45:39.160
just a little warning to add here. Words do matter. Words really do matter in, uh, international
00:45:44.720
affairs certainly. And in politics, you know, I did that Prager video on it. The words really,
00:45:49.340
really matter. Speech is the essential human act and the words that you use matter. So I, you know,
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all in all, as I say, take a breather. It doesn't, everything is fine in American foreign relations
00:45:59.620
and, and with Russia. It is worth pointing out to, to defend some of the critics of that press
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conference yesterday. The words do really matter. One has to be pretty careful with what they say
00:46:09.820
because, uh, speech is the political act. It's the human act. And so, you know, if I, I think that
00:46:16.500
press conference yesterday was just great. And it was like four words from being really good,
00:46:22.200
you know, and a few words just really left a bad taste in people's mouths. One does have to be
00:46:27.160
careful because, uh, words, when, when we're negotiating, when we're talking like loose people,
00:46:32.060
words can be used really, uh, in a cavalier way, but you've, you've got to be precise about what
00:46:37.400
you're saying so that there's not, not a lot of confusion on that point. I hope I haven't confused
00:46:41.380
you on that point. Uh, come back tomorrow, get your mailbag questions in. We're going to do that on
00:46:45.060
Thursday. We've got some great guests. We have like too many great guests right now.
00:46:48.680
So I've got to figure out, I, I, uh, we did a pre-tape, uh, interview with my priest,
00:46:53.660
father Rutler. So maybe, maybe we'll try to get that to you soon. Uh, because man, if you think
00:46:59.560
I'm right wing, you've got to listen to my, he's really talk about the opposite where we bemoan that
00:47:04.700
millennials are uncultured and uneducated. This guy has read every single book ever. And it's the most
00:47:09.560
cultured man I know. So we'll get that to you and some other great interviews coming up too. So tune in.
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In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles show. See you tomorrow.
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