Ep. 1853 - Are Dems Finally Ending The Longest Shutdown In History？
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After 41 days, the government is on the brink of reopening, but no deal has been struck. Is it possible that the Supreme Court might overrule Roe v. Wade? And if so, what would that mean for gay marriage?
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After 41 days, the government is on the brink of reopening.
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It's just that eight Democrat senators finally flipped to side with Republicans.
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But the long and short of it is that when all is said and done, the Democrats instigated
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the longest government shutdown in the history of the United States for no reason other than
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You remember how in all the nomination hearings, they say like they grill the conservative
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And the conservative judges, they always say, they're really coy.
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They don't lie, but they say, Roe v. Wade is settled law.
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At the time, it's settled law, but they're going to overrule it.
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When they overruled Roe v. Wade, they said, well, does this mean you're going to overrule
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And all of the judges said, no, this is different.
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The government shutdown is not officially over, but it might as well be.
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Republicans were threatening to nuke the filibuster.
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Plenty of generally restrained, moderate voices, myself included, by the way.
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I include myself in that, in the Aristotelian sense of moderation.
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All sorts of voices that you would not have expected came out and said, whatever.
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It's been many decades, but we're going to nuke the filibuster because the Democrats are
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We'll get a tactical advantage if we do it first.
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So we're going to end the shutdown by nuking the filibuster.
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All of a sudden, eight Democrats come out of the woodwork.
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You know, they say that this is the way the world ends.
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This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but with a whimper.
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Here's how the government shutdown effectively ended.
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Followed by Dick Durbin, Maggie Hassan, Tim Kaine, Angus King, who's not a Democrat, but he might
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Cortez Masto, Gene Shaheen, and John Fetterman.
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Fetterman, who is now taking up the mantle as the last blue dog Democrat in the country.
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They voted with 52 Republicans, brings it to 60, gets past the filibuster.
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Now it goes to the House, but the House is controlled by the Republicans, albeit with a
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The Republicans will vote in lockstep to reopen the government.
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The Democrats said they shut the government down because Republicans wouldn't negotiate
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on health care and they were going to strip health care from Americans and blah, blah,
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Republicans came back to them and said, hold on, what are you talking about?
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We won't fund like illegal alien health care, which you apparently want to do.
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And the Democrats said, we need to fix health care.
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And the Republicans came back and said, guys, we gave you a clean CR, a clean continuing
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resolution, which means that to continue funding the government,
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you just had to vote for the budget that you already voted for under Joe Biden.
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It's not like the Republicans said, Democrats, we're going to force you to give us a bunch
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of our priorities and slash spending here and put in a bunch of social conservatism here.
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They just said, hey, guys, do you want to keep the government open under the same budget
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And then they came up with all these ex post facto arguments.
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By the way, we're currently under a health care framework that the Democrats gave us
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So the current the agreement that the Senate came to is to fund the government through January
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So not just to get us through the end of November, which we're pretty close to, to get
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That will include a full year funding for SNAP.
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We found out a huge number of Americans are on food stamps, many of whom apparently don't
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It'll fund the welfare programs that Democrats like.
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And later on, they will vote on those Obamacare subsidies that the Democrats want.
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The Democrat leader in the Senate was opposed to the eight Dems siding with the Republicans.
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The American people want us to stand and fight for health care.
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Democrat Representative Greg Kesar of Texas says that the Democrats caving on this constitutes
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a betrayal and a capitulation because it doesn't reduce health care costs.
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It's an unconditional surrender that abandons the 24 million Americans whose health care premiums
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So they're trying to make it about health care.
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I explained this right when the government shutdown happened.
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I said, what this is about is Democrats throwing a Hail Mary, is the Democrats are on
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the wrong side of virtually every 80-20 issue in the country, with the exception of women's
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rights, which just means abortion, environmentalism, and health care.
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The only one that approaches a relatively high priority is health care.
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And so the Democrats said, shoot, we're losing on everything.
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So, okay, we're going to shut the government down, make a big spectacle to try to turn the
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conversation away from immigration, to try to turn the conversation away from some of the
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economic wins under Trump, to try to turn the conversation away from the geopolitical
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Peace in the Middle East, some movement on the Ukraine war, Trump winning on the terror fight
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when everyone said that he would be losing on the terror fights.
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We're going to turn the conversation away from that, to health care.
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The big problem, though, is we are currently under the Democrat health care regime.
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Democrats told us under Barack Obama, if you vote for this bill, we're going to fix health
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Joe Biden, vice president at the time, says, this is a big effing deal, man.
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So the Democrats, even as they get their best issue right before the election, they're admitting
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that the last time they told you they were going to fix health care, it made everything
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Now, in fairness, tactically, the shutdown did achieve one thing for Democrats.
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The shutdown took 300,000 federal workers and had them sitting on their hands, not getting
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paid with nothing to do but stew, just as there were consequential elections in Virginia.
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They got their Democrat attorney general, Jay Jones, even as he was calling to murder Republicans.
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Seemed like his support among Democrats went up when it was revealed that he wanted to murder
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And now the story of this shutdown is going to be not what the Democrats wanted, which
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is that Republicans are shutting down the government, not what the Democrats wanted, which was that
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Democrats are making a heroic stand for health care or whatever.
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The story of the shutdown, when all is said and done, is going to be that the Democrats shut
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down the government to win an election in Virginia, which they did.
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Here's MSNBC reacting to the beginning of the end of the shutdown.
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I don't know why Senate Democrats are going along with it.
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And there looks like they're settling for something that is six weeks down the line.
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I would say it doesn't feel like a gentleman's agreement.
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You know, it's like, oh, yeah, we promised this vote.
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But they can even, in good faith, do a vote in the Senate.
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So, Mike, even if John Thune is being above board and saying, I'm going to do this.
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I mean, I'm already seeing a thing on social media and getting emails from listeners to
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People already, you know, but they're saying, for 40 days, you shut the government down.
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And now you're going to open the government up.
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Because I think the biggest shock to the Democrats was they always manage to blame
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government shutdowns on Republicans for my whole life.
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But Republicans always get blamed until this one, until this one.
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So, okay, they got a little victory, more than a little victory.
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The Democrats are going to try to hang their hats.
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Nearly one heartbeat away from becoming the second woman president.
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He said, well, we got the Republicans to give us a vote on our stupid health care plan
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The Democrats were using all their leverage to get this vote on health care.
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And Republicans, Trump very rightly said, we can't give it to them.
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Because then they're going to run us over in every other negotiation.
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The MSNBC lady is trying to spin it and make the Democrats look like victims here.
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It's the Democrats realizing they have no cards to play.
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They went into this thing so overconfident, so bullish, that their usual nonsense would work.
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And so even, I think it was Tim Kaine came out and said, look, our constituents are going to make us vote for this.
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And still, they're going to try to hammer healthcare.
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Because it's the only issue that is even sort of working for them.
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Bernie Sanders makes one last valiant stand over the shutdown.
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I understand that the way the process has been developed, it is impossible to delay the
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And if that were not the case, that is certainly what I would do, because I think it is important
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that the American people fully understand what is being voted on today.
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Everybody in America knows that our current health care system is broken, it is dysfunctional,
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it is cruel, it is by far the most expensive health care system in the world, and the only
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health care system of any major country that does not guarantee health care to all people
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as a human right covering every man, woman, and child.
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And yet tonight, what this Senate is about to do is make a horrific situation even worse.
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If this vote succeeds, over 20 million Americans are going to see at least a doubling in their
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Bernie is very old, so I can forgive him for this.
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This is the most expensive health care in the world.
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The reason that that doesn't play as well in 2025 as it did in 2007 is that the Democrats,
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by hook and by crook, gave us their health care program.
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In 2007, we were operating on the pre-Obama health care system.
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He said, if you give me my health care plan, premiums are going to come down.
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If you like your doctor, you're going to get to keep your doctor.
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We're going to fix this health care once and for all.
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And he gets it through, and it was very unpopular, and it's why the Democrats lost the midterms
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And it was what led to the Tea Party, and that's what led to Trump.
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He got very close, but John McCain was vindictive against Trump, and he cast the vote that said,
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So I actually think not only was this a feckless shutdown, other than giving the Dems some extra
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seats in Virginia, not only was it feckless, not only did it not work, not only did they
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have to surrender in the end, I think ultimately this will have been bad for their long-term
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Not only did it not shift the conversation back to an issue on which they think they're
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winning health care, but in as much as it did shift the conversation, I think it's going
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to highlight that their health care plan didn't work.
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So to get us back to the Lucy and the football analogy, I think this reveals Democrats to
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Because we all remember, many of us remember, the last time they said, let us pass some crazy
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spending bill, and it's going to make health care better.
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They told us that, and then they took away the football.
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And he said, well, you didn't think you were going to get all that good stuff for free,
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You didn't think you were going to get all that stuff for free, huh?
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It was so egregious that PolitiFact rated, if you like your doctor, you can keep your
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And now Bernie is unwittingly, I think, acknowledging defeat on the issue.
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Not just tactical defeat on the shutdown like the eight senators did, admitting defeat on the
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So why would the American people give the Democrats more of their health care plan?
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It completely failed to fulfill its promises the first time.
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There were plenty of Republicans wanting to go weak in the knee.
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Maybe we need to negotiate with the Democrats here.
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Now, speaking of major potential Republican victories, huge one coming to the Supreme Court.
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A decade later, Supreme Court is asked to revisit same-sex marriage decision.
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Kim Davis, a Kentucky County clerk once jailed for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses,
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has asked the court to reconsider its landmark 2015 opinion.
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So the Supreme Court considered this on Friday.
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They will announce their decision of whether or not to even take up the case, to take up the issue today.
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By the time you're listening to this show, if you're listening later in the day,
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the court might have already issued their opinion.
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Because at some point, the court is going to have to overturn same-sex marriage.
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At some point, gay marriage, so-called, is going to go away.
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And it's going to go away because it's contrary to nature.
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It's going to go away because it doesn't make any sense.
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Matrimony, matrimony comes from the word mater in Latin, okay, like mother.
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The defining feature of marriage is that it involves sexual difference.
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Because marriage is a lifelong union between a man and a woman for the begetting of children
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and for the educating of children and for the mutual support of the spouses.
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But primarily, it's about making kids and raising kids.
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And you cannot remove the essential feature of marriage and still have marriage continue.
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So you have Clarence Thomas in the Dobbs decision acknowledging that the reasoning
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behind overruling Roe v. Wade and Dobbs would naturally lead to overruling all sorts of other dumb cases.
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And we can get into the legal minutiae of why that is some other time.
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The other judges are being a little more coy about this.
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And they don't want to take it up because right now,
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same-sex marriage still has majority support in the country.
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And the court does follow opinion polls, does follow election returns.
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Because the court is not some ethereal body protected from the fall of man
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with infallible judgment that comes down out of heaven to maintain our political order.
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It's one of the three co-equal branches of government.
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And as support for same-sex marriage continues to decline, which it must.
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It must because the logic that gave us same-sex marriage
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was the logic of feminism, which says that men and women are the same.
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As the public turned away, they were so repulsed by transing kids.
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As the idea then moves back in the other direction,
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it's going to start to unwind to all of those things.
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So, look, I hope the court overrules Obergefell now.
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It's a ridiculous decision on like every front.
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But even if they don't, it took 50 years to overrule Roe v. Wade.
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You cannot maintain a political order that is contrary to reality.
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Eventually, the Soviet Union is going to collapse under its own incoherence.
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Eventually, we have a lot of power, we human beings, to enforce the tyranny of our wills on society.
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But eventually, reality is going to win out in the end.
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He was the recent chief of staff over at the Department of Justice.
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He has a shocking number, set of numbers, about how the courts are being weaponized against Trump.
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Half of those were issued by Democrat-appointed judges.
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Obama had 12 nationwide injunctions issued against his administration.
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60% of those were issued by Republican-appointed judges.
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In the first Trump term, he had 64 injunctions.
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And then before the Casa decision, we have a rough count of about 40 issued in the first six months of the Trump administration.
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So over 100 injunctions issued against the Trump administration.
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Over 90% of those were issued by Democrat-appointed judges.
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That means that since 1963, over three-quarters of the nationwide injunctions have been issued against President Trump,
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with over 90% of those coming from Democrat-appointed judges.
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Well, some might argue that's just because Trump is more lawless.
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24 emergency petitions were filed at the Supreme Court by the Trump administration this year.
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That's a 92% win rate at the United States Supreme Court.
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Since 1963, 75% of all nationwide injunctions have been against Trump.
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And as Chad points out, you might be tempted at this point to say, well, look, maybe it's just because Trump is more lawless than any president before him.
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But that's what the Democrats are going to say.
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Yeah, three-quarters of the injunctions over the last 60 years have been against Trump because he's the most lawless guy.
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Except when they then appeal these decisions, the Trump administration has a 92% win rate at the Supreme Court.
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And the Supreme Court rules over the lower courts.
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At a certain point, the lower court should probably take note and stop issuing these injunctions.
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They say, sir, what would you like for breakfast?
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Would you like an omelet or would you like pancakes?
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Federal district court judge rules you have to have an omelet today.
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Federal district court judge issues an injunction.
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On everything the guy tries to do, they're trying to undo the 2024 election from these lower-level federal courts.
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One random judge out of 700 can stop the executive branch from executing its responsibilities after Trump won the election, after Republicans won the House and the Senate.
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Look, this brings us to have to reconsider what the courts even are.
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Because we're supposed to have three co-equal branches of government.
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In practice, though, today, the Democrats have elevated the court into a kind of super government that is supposed to rule over all the others.
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Now, they weren't doing that five minutes ago, were they?
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Five minutes ago, they were talking about how the Supreme Court was lawless and unconstitutional.
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We need to abolish the way the court works because the court did things they don't like.
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But now that the court is their last chance, it's that Hail Mary, it's that last-ditch effort, now they say, no, no, no, one federal district judge, he can rule the whole government.
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The Supreme Court's not allowed to, but some random district judge will be like, he can rule the whole government.
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And it's even the way we talk about the judges that I think should cause some introspection.
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We talk about the judges as if they're some disembodied intelligence.
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The oracle at Delphi has declared that Trump can't do what the people elected him to do.
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And this reminds me of a line, providentially, that my pastor read during his homily yesterday.
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George Bernard Shaw, a socialist, an atheist, a radical leftist.
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Pretty good playwright, friends with Chesterton, but leftist.
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The famous dogma of papal infallibility is by far the most modest pretension of the kind in existence.
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Compared with our infallible democracies, our infallible medical councils, our infallible astronomers,
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our infallible judges, our infallible parliaments,
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the pope is on his knees in the dust confessing his ignorance before the throne of God,
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asking only that as to certain historical matters on which he has clearly more sources of information open to him than anyone else,
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You know, I point you to MSNBC to show you it's not just some right winger invading against Democrats.
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No, there's actually all reasonable people can see this.
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Well, I point you to the socialist George Bernard Shaw here,
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Plenty of people have a problem with people infallibility.
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You know, the notion that when ruling through a definitive act on matters of faith and morals,
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And yet, look how we treat these other institutions.
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We were told he was infallible for like five years.
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When Democrats were winning elections, we were told democracy is infallible.
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It's like, papal infallibility is really quite modest.
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It's really quite restrained compared to the supposed infallibility of some random bureaucrat in D.C.
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They should not be treated as a priestly caste.
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And I think people are coming to that realization.
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They're going to have to because the Supreme Court keeps striking down the supposedly infallible lower-level judges.
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Now, speaking of the Pope, the Pope had something very, very interesting to say about internet porn.
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And people don't seem to be understanding what the Pope is saying.
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When I have an issue I care about, people will hear.
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If she's not going to be J.D. Vance's running mate in 2028, which I'm still holding out for,
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she at least needs to train all Republicans on messaging, on interviews, on how to handle the media.
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Papa Leone, Pope Leo, the 14th, has just weighed in on internet porn.
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In recent times, addictions like drugs, alcohol, which continue to be the prevalent ones,
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are joined by the use of the internet, computers and smartphones.
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It doesn't only have clear benefits, but with overuse.
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It results in dependencies, with bad outcomes for your health, that have to do with gambling,
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and the almost constant presence on platforms of the digital world.
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These addictions become an obsession, changing behavior in daily life.
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are the symptoms of mental problems and the inner malaise of the individual,
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He goes on, the whole statement is worth listening to.
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First of all, it's very interesting, it's not just about porn.
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He also points out that there's a big problem now with compulsive gambling on the internet.
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I know plenty of people, plenty of my friends enjoy sports gambling,
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sports gambling on the internet, which has recently been legalized and normalized.
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Having little bets here and there can be a lot of fun,
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but if you're regularly, compulsively engaging in gambling,
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And then, of course, the clearest addiction problem that's come out of the internet
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I think he knew he was going to do this when he picked his name, Leo XIV,
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because he took inspiration from his predecessor, Leo XIII,
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who dealt with the problems of the modern world,
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Rerum Novarum, notably, about industrial society
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and how it was changing our moral outlook and behavior
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whether you like the Pope, whether you hate the Pope,
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the effect of technology on political problems.
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I think we, the kind of people who follow political news,
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follow every happening in the Senate and the House,
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But the ideology doesn't just occur and grow in a vacuum.
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with the real tangible physical aspects of the world.
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It's all, it all has a connection to the physical world.
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Luther's 95 Theses to be printed widely circulated.
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And that led to a political crack up of Europe,
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then teenagers can't go sneak out a lot of the time
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that really came about in the 1950s and 60s and 70s.
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the invention and development of the mechanical clock
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even with the founding fathers of the United States.
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without the technological innovation of the clock.
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that made these ideas seem to make sense to people.
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There would be no Freud without the steam engine.
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We say people just got to blow off a little steam.
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and they're not just playing to the print media