The Michael Knowles Show - November 17, 2025


Ep. 1858 - Marjorie Taylor Greene Joins The Resistance?


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

174.29385

Word Count

8,756

Sentence Count

717

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

A 100-year-old World War II veteran has just come out on television and said the sacrifice of his fallen comrades was not worth it because modern people have squandered it. All of a sudden, President Trump wants to release the Epstein files, Republican firebrand Marjorie Taylor Greene wants CNN to like her, and teenage girls want to get married less than boys do.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All of a sudden, President Trump wants to release the Epstein files.
00:00:03.760 Republican firebrand Marjorie Taylor Greene wants CNN to like her.
00:00:07.500 And teenage girls want to get married less than boys do.
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00:01:57.080 All right, a ton to get to. We had the release of more Epstein files. Everyone calls for the
00:02:03.840 release of the Epstein files. We have a ton of Epstein files, and we've known a lot about Epstein
00:02:07.140 since really 2014, 2015, when it was the conservatives who were exposing him, when it
00:02:12.700 was President Trump who was calling for journalists to look into it. At that point,
00:02:15.720 the journalists didn't want to look into it. Then the Democrats ran out of issues. So they thought
00:02:19.740 that was the one issue they could try to get Trump on is painting Epstein more as a Republican scandal
00:02:24.740 than a Democrat scandal. But we keep getting more and more of these files, and it's led to a little
00:02:30.400 bit of a fissure in the Republican Party. So even a pro-MAGA, pro-Trump, conservative firebrand
00:02:38.240 like Marjorie Taylor Greene in the House, has been turning on Trump a little bit.
00:02:43.380 And then Trump has been hitting her. He came out very strongly, hit her. I think he's threatening
00:02:49.000 to primary her. So then as a consequence, you're in this bizarro world where Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:02:55.140 is going on CNN and trying to get the liberal viewers of CNN to like her.
00:03:01.760 You have a pivot from one of the most rock-ribbed, hardline, populist right-wingers
00:03:07.760 basically doing a mea culpa on liberal TV and saying she regrets some of her right-wing rhetoric
00:03:15.420 and asking us all to get along.
00:03:18.860 I would like to say humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in the toxic politics. It's very bad for our
00:03:29.020 country. And it's been something I've thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was
00:03:35.280 assassinated, is that I'm only responsible for myself and my own words and actions. And I am
00:03:43.440 committed, and I've been working on this a lot lately, to put down the knives in politics. I really
00:03:50.500 just want to see people be kind to one another. And we need to figure out a new path forward that is
00:03:57.700 focused on the American people because as Americans, no matter what side of the aisle we're on,
00:04:03.340 we have far more in common than we have differences. And we need to be able to respect each other with
00:04:10.480 our disagreements.
00:04:12.560 Okay, hold on, hold on. So right off the bat, we have Marjorie Taylor Greene using the rhetoric that I
00:04:22.220 was making fun of, I think on Friday, certainly last week, that you hear from the libs all the time.
00:04:26.400 The libs always use this phrase, be kind. We just have to be kind to one another. I love kind
00:04:32.280 people. I don't know why, but the K word, kind, is the left-wing slogan du jour. And it's ironic
00:04:38.580 because they wish death on Republicans at a much higher rate than Republicans wish death on them.
00:04:44.260 They disown family members over politics. They're not kind, generally. It's certainly not relative to
00:04:49.120 Republicans. Now you got MTG. She goes on CNN, the liberal channel. She apologizes for being so
00:04:57.880 right-wing. I've contributed to the toxic political culture, and we need to be kind.
00:05:04.000 I'm waiting for her to say trans rights or human rights or something. I'm exaggerating slightly,
00:05:09.160 but she's appealing to a left-wing audience using left-wing rhetoric. And then the most preposterous
00:05:15.160 part of it, she says, you know, something about Charlie Kirk's assassination pointed out to me
00:05:20.960 that we all have a lot more in common than separates us. That, of course, is the exact
00:05:28.060 opposite conclusion that most of us drew. I've given how many speeches about this? I testified
00:05:33.540 before the Senate about this. I'm not saying anything particularly original. I think the vast
00:05:38.340 majority of Americans realize this. When Charlie Kirk was assassinated, we assumed,
00:05:42.900 we on the right, assumed that the left would say, okay, this is way too far. Charlie Kirk,
00:05:48.220 the most prominent example of civil discourse, trying to hash out our differences through polite
00:05:54.480 conversation, going out to meet people where they are, putting the microphone down to hear them speak
00:05:59.720 and respond respectfully. Wow, this has gone way too far. We're really sorry. We might not have
00:06:06.320 agreed with Charlie on policy, but we're so sorry that he died. There's no excuse for this. That's not
00:06:10.860 what happened. That's not even close to what happened. We saw the left at every level from
00:06:17.020 the normies, the girl you went to high school with, all the way up to elected Democrats, all the way up
00:06:21.400 to people on TV, minimizing it, excusing it, in some cases justifying and even celebrating it.
00:06:29.180 We then had the YouGov surveys come out. The YouGov surveys showing that very liberal people are eight
00:06:35.940 times as likely to justify political violence as very conservative people and that 26% of young
00:06:40.560 liberals justify political violence, many multiples, which you see among young conservatives.
00:06:46.000 So the conclusion from Charlie's assassination is, wow, we actually have far greater differences
00:06:51.480 than I expected. I wanted to go back to the old Ronald Reagan line. Well, we have no enemies in
00:06:57.560 America, only opponents. And what's the difference? Opponents are two people who agree on what ends
00:07:04.020 they desire, but they disagree on methods. We all want to reduce illegal immigration.
00:07:10.360 We just disagree on how to get there. We all want to reduce the number of abortions. We just disagree
00:07:15.800 on how to get there. We all want America to flourish. We all want a strong country. We all want,
00:07:20.860 no, we all want to tone down the political violence. But no, what we discovered is there are many more
00:07:27.800 people who are enemies, who actually disagree on the ends, who want us dead. We realized this when
00:07:35.040 Democrat analysts on MSNBC, as Charlie was dying, came out and said, well, actually, it's his own
00:07:42.440 hateful rhetoric that led to this. That's what we learned. Marjorie Taylor Greene, of all people,
00:07:48.980 is going on CNN to say, no, actually, that's not real. Don't believe your lying eyes. We just need to
00:07:54.740 be kind. We need to sing kumbaya. I'm sorry that I was so right wing. What is this about?
00:08:01.100 Yeah, I'll tell you what this is about. It's about a fight that she's having. She's been
00:08:06.740 needling at Trump for many months now. Trump finally came out and hit her, and now she's on a different
00:08:11.280 team. And the lesson that you have to take from this, and it's going to be very, very important
00:08:17.120 as we move toward the midterms, as we move toward 2028, as we hear constantly, mostly in the left
00:08:22.860 wing media, about the civil war in the Republican Party, is that politics is not primarily about
00:08:30.780 ideas. Politics is, I'm not being ironic here. I'm not being glib. I am telling you a fact that
00:08:38.840 has been true since man walked out of the cave. Politics is not primarily about ideas. It is
00:08:45.700 certainly not primarily about ideology, which is the modern substitute for religion, which lays at the
00:08:52.140 foundation of all politics. But what politics is about primarily in the day-to-day in very practical
00:08:58.920 terms is people. People who form coalitions to work together to attain power to, we hope, advance the
00:09:09.980 common good. In failed regimes, the people form together in coalitions to amass power to advance
00:09:17.600 their private interests. In functional regimes, people come together in coalitions to attain power
00:09:24.900 to advance the common good of all. But it's about people forming teams to get power. That's what
00:09:31.800 politics is about, okay? And ideas matter. Ideology, unfortunately, in the modern world matters.
00:09:40.380 Ultimately, the ideology is just a substitute for religion, which is a much sturdier foundation of
00:09:44.540 politics. All human conflict, ultimately, is theological, as Cardinal Manning says. But that's
00:09:48.880 what this is about. This is why, look at someone like Liz Cheney. Liz Cheney, on ideas, on issues,
00:09:57.020 has agreed with Republicans, has voted in Congress with Donald Trump like 90% of the time, probably more
00:10:05.900 than 90% of the time. But she's on the other team. When push comes to shove, at the crucial moment,
00:10:12.720 when it's about which coalition is about to amass power, she sides with the other team.
00:10:18.120 And all of those ideas that she talks about, even the votes that she's taken in Congress,
00:10:22.000 don't really matter. Because when you get to the crucial vote, the vote for the ridiculous January
00:10:27.120 6th commission, the vote for president in 2024, when you get to the crucial vote that actually matters,
00:10:33.120 she's on the other team. The same thing, it would seem, is happening to Marjorie Taylor Greene right
00:10:39.640 now. I hope she pulls back from the brink. I hope she doesn't go full Liz Cheney. But it could happen.
00:10:47.620 It's how Liz Cheney, 90 plus percent conservative voting record, is on the Democrat team.
00:10:55.300 And it's how John Fetterman, who is a big lib, do not forget, John Fetterman is a big lib.
00:11:00.080 But Republicans really like John Fetterman right now, because he's relatively moderate within the
00:11:04.180 Democrat Party, and he is gumming up their political machine. And at crucial moments,
00:11:08.660 he is defending Trump. He is defending the Republicans and the conservatives.
00:11:12.400 That's how we are kind of claiming him as one of ours, and how the left is claiming Liz Cheney as
00:11:18.320 one of theirs, rightly, and might be claiming Marjorie Taylor Greene as one of theirs. Because politics is
00:11:22.760 about people. So when we talk about, and I harp on this a lot, much more so, I think, than many of my
00:11:29.280 other friends with microphones or who are in office on the conservative side. I say, politics is about
00:11:35.260 coalitions. In fact, she brought up Charlie, the indispensable service that Charlie did. He did a
00:11:41.860 lot of wonderful things for conservatism and for America. But the indispensable service that he
00:11:47.480 performed was he kept a coalition together. He knew who to keep out. He knew who to keep in. He knew how
00:11:53.600 to mollify the antagonisms within the coalition and all the different people who hate each other.
00:11:57.840 He understood what politics is about, which is making teams to gain power to, we hope, advance
00:12:05.180 the common good. That's what's going on. Right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Donald Trump or
00:12:11.740 Greene and Trump have decided that they're on different teams. And everyone's going to be
00:12:16.780 scratching their heads trying to figure out how to, well, this is so crazy. Marjorie Taylor Greene's on
00:12:20.880 CNN. It's not that crazy when you recognize that that is what politics is. It's about people.
00:12:26.680 Politics, the most basic definition of it is how people live together. That's what it is.
00:12:33.400 And now we're seeing different teams. The flashpoint in this was the release of the Epstein files. We
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00:14:10.540 files. His words, as I said on Friday night aboard Air Force One to the fake news media,
00:14:16.260 House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide.
00:14:21.420 And it's time to move on from this Democrat hoax perpetrated by radical left lunatics
00:14:24.820 in order to deflect from the great success of the Republican Party,
00:14:28.480 including our recent victory in the Democrat shutdown. Good point. It's kind of funny. We now forget
00:14:32.880 about the shutdown. The news cycle moves so fast, we forget the Democrats just single-handedly gave
00:14:38.440 us the longest government shutdown ever in American history. They conceded, at first they argued it
00:14:43.060 was the Republicans doing it. Then they admitted, okay, it was actually just us, and eight Democrat
00:14:46.680 senators voted to reopen the government. We totally forget about that now. Trump goes on.
00:14:50.400 The Department of Justice has already turned over tens of thousands of pages to the public on Epstein,
00:14:54.660 are looking at various Democrat operatives, Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, Larry Summers, etc.,
00:14:58.560 and their relationship to Epstein. And the House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are
00:15:02.680 legally entitled to. I don't care. All I do care about is that Republicans get back on point,
00:15:08.380 which is the economy, affordability, quote, because that's a new buzzword, which we are winning big.
00:15:13.820 He goes on. Our victory on reducing inflation from the highest level in history to practically
00:15:19.840 nothing, bringing down prices for the American people. We'll get to the inflation point,
00:15:22.900 because the Federal Reserve in San Francisco just made a massive admission regarding the success of
00:15:28.120 Trump's tariff policy that all the smart economists were saying wasn't going to happen.
00:15:31.540 We'll get to that momentarily. Delivering historic tax cuts, trillions of dollars of investment into
00:15:35.440 America, a record, the rebuilding of the military, securing our border. Okay, he goes on and lists all
00:15:39.380 the great stuff that's been happening. Then he says, this ties in exactly what we were just talking
00:15:45.020 about. Some quote unquote members of the Republican Party are being used, and we can't let that happen.
00:15:52.000 Let's start talking about the Republican Party's record-setting achievements and not fall into the
00:15:55.700 Epstein trap, which is actually a curse on the Democrats, not us. Make America great again. Okay,
00:16:00.200 the key word here, and it's funny, I hadn't even read the whole, it was a long truth social post. I
00:16:05.200 didn't read the whole thing. And as I read it, I discover Trump is seeing the same point that we
00:16:11.380 were just discussing. He says some quote unquote members of the Republican Party. Why does he put that
00:16:15.400 in quotes? Trump uses quotes in all sorts of creative ways, as a bold face or other things. But here,
00:16:19.880 he's using quotes in a more traditional sense to cast doubt on the meaning of the word. Some members
00:16:27.260 of the Republican Party. Yeah, Liz Cheney is a member of the Republican Party, I guess. She may
00:16:32.380 have left at this point, but even when she was a member. I guess technically she's a member of the
00:16:36.860 party, but at the crucial moment, she works against the party. Right now, I'm just joking. I like Marjorie
00:16:43.900 Taylor Greene. She and I have gotten along great. But as of yesterday, going on CNN, using Democrat
00:16:49.980 rhetoric to apologize for being a Republican, to attack Trump, to flatter Democrats with a
00:16:56.000 completely wrong conclusion about Charlie Kirk's assassination, that's not the kind of thing a real
00:17:00.220 Republican does. That's not the kind of thing a real conservative does. Trump is saying they're,
00:17:04.980 well, he's saying they're rhinos. In a really basic sense, not rhino like you're a little too
00:17:09.540 liberal on immigration. Not rhino like you want to raise taxes. Rhino in a really precise sense.
00:17:15.060 You are a Republican in name, and maybe even in all the votes that don't matter.
00:17:20.360 But at the crucial moment, you don't advance the party's interest.
00:17:25.480 This is Trump's argument against someone like Thomas Massey, who by all accounts, in his ideology,
00:17:31.720 in his principles, he is as rock-ribbed a libertarian conservative as it gets.
00:17:37.560 But at the crucial vote, at the crucial vote, he teams up with Ro Khanna and the Democrats to try
00:17:44.940 to embarrass Trump. At the crucial vote, where is he? That's the point that Trump is making.
00:17:51.200 So why is he flipping on Epstein? Because until recently, well, it's a long story. Until recently,
00:17:57.500 Trump was saying he didn't really want to deal with the Epstein thing. And he said, forget about
00:18:00.740 the Epstein thing. Enough about him. This is a hoax. Let's move on and talk about all my great
00:18:04.340 achievements. But before that, Trump was calling for the release of the Epstein files.
00:18:11.840 And this has led to all sorts of conspiracy theories by Trump's enemies on the left,
00:18:17.180 certainly, and his enemies who are supposedly on the right. Even people who would call themselves
00:18:22.920 very rock-ribbed, they say, oh, it's obvious Trump's being blackmailed. He's being blackmailed
00:18:28.160 by the deep state, or he's being blackmailed by some foreign government, or he's being blackmailed by
00:18:31.660 whoever. But he's being blackmailed. He's compromised. He's this, he's that. And here
00:18:36.420 Trump is, he says, release all the files. I'll give you my view of it. I think that in, what was it,
00:18:42.920 2015, 2016, Trump was one of the early people calling attention to the Epstein scandal,
00:18:50.840 demanding more transparency on the Epstein scandal. I don't think Trump does that if he were seriously
00:18:57.900 implicated in the Epstein scandal. We all know that he and Epstein were friends. We all know they had a
00:19:01.360 long-time relationship, though. They had a falling out at some point. Epstein apparently had friendships
00:19:06.560 with, like, everybody. With foreign heads of state, with American heads of state, you know, Bill Clinton,
00:19:13.680 with major philanthropists like Bill Gates, with major institutions like Harvard and MIT. He was
00:19:18.120 apparently friends with everybody. Stephen Hawking, I think. Everybody. He was a schmoozer. He was a worker.
00:19:23.380 He was an operative. We still don't know. There's a lot to find out about Epstein. But I don't think
00:19:28.140 that Trump, in 2015, if he were seriously implicated in Epstein, he wouldn't have called
00:19:32.460 for that. He wouldn't have called attention to that. So then why did he backtrack? Why did he
00:19:36.340 try to downplay Epstein? I suspect it's because, as we know, he's mentioned in the files. He's probably
00:19:42.200 mentioned in the files many times. And if you're working in the White House Communications Department,
00:19:48.240 you have to think, all right, well, any document that comes out with Trump's name on it,
00:19:53.380 that is going to be used to distract from the issues that we want to talk about endlessly.
00:19:59.020 That's what the Democrats are doing. That's what they're trying to do with the help of some so-called
00:20:01.800 Republicans. And it's going to be spun into a bunch of nonsense. There was a story over the weekend
00:20:05.820 about Bill Clinton and Donald Trump doing weird stuff together or whatever. And it's just so frivolous,
00:20:14.760 so truly so. Look, I don't like Bill Clinton, but I don't think Trump is his type. Let's put it that
00:20:20.460 way. Not from everything we know about Bubba, I don't think he's into large men with blonde hair.
00:20:27.740 I don't buy it. But that's, I'm sure, what the White House was thinking. The more that we talk
00:20:33.420 about Epstein, the worse it is for us. But something happened, which is because Epstein,
00:20:38.780 as Trump rightly saw in 2015 and 16, because Epstein is such a symbol of the rot, of the corruption of our
00:20:45.860 political class, of the deceit, of the perfidy of our law enforcement, higher echelons, and the deep
00:20:55.060 state, whatever. They don't want to let it go. They want answers. And I totally understand that.
00:21:00.940 I sympathize with that. I think I have a little more of a down-to-earth view of things, which is
00:21:07.740 one of two things is going to be true. Either Epstein is who we're told he is, which is he was
00:21:15.220 just a weird sex freak. He was rich, had a lot of rich, famous friends, and that was it. In which
00:21:21.260 case, we basically know everything we're going to know about Epstein. Or Epstein was a super-duper spy,
00:21:27.060 a triple agent for every foreign government, and he was James Bond and Jason Bourne rolled up into one.
00:21:33.560 In which case, if that's true, I'm not saying I believe that. If that's true, we will never learn
00:21:37.700 anything more about it. Either JFK was killed by a lone gunman on a grassy knoll, or we will never
00:21:46.500 learn anything else about the assassination of JFK. We've had a law in this country demanding the
00:21:51.600 release of all the JFK files since like 1992. And in violation of executive orders and federal law
00:21:58.720 passed by Congress, the government just hasn't released all of it. You just will not learn
00:22:03.920 anything about it. So what do we take from this? Trump is realizing that he miscalculated. He
00:22:11.100 correctly calculated in the first place. He miscalculated later on. It was a very Washington
00:22:15.700 calculus, which is, well, the more we talk about this, the worse it is for everybody, and especially
00:22:19.200 for us, because Democrats are going to derail us. So let's just not talk about it. But not talking
00:22:23.040 about it undercuts the first calculation, the first argument, and it wasn't working. And not
00:22:28.780 leaning more heavily into Epstein was giving Democrats a narrative, and it was splitting
00:22:32.620 the Republican Party. That is in part how you get people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who wants to
00:22:37.740 maintain her rock-ribbed populist cred. Now you have her in this weird realignment siding with CNN
00:22:43.500 so that she can be on the side of exposing the Epstein scandal, whatever that even means.
00:22:48.940 So I think this is a smart move by Trump. I basically think he should have stuck to his
00:22:52.780 guns going back a decade now. There is no reason. Here, here we go. This is my big bet on here.
00:23:00.580 And I am basically always right on these things. You know how much I hate to say it.
00:23:06.340 I'm laying my flag right now, planting my flag. We will not find anything in the Epstein files that
00:23:14.660 are released that is seriously damaging to Trump. We will not find anything. There will be no credible
00:23:20.980 release. I'm not talking about random emails from like Michael Wolff, you know, fabulous fiction
00:23:27.220 writers. I'm not talking. I'm talking about actual hardcore evidence from the Epstein files. We will
00:23:34.000 not find anything that is seriously damaging to Trump. However, it's become an issue in the Republican
00:23:42.380 Party. It's splitting the coalition, not over ideas, just over people. And politics is about people.
00:23:47.520 Plus, looking ahead after those disastrous elections two weeks ago, assuming the Democrats win the
00:23:52.120 midterms, when the Democrats take the House, they are going to subpoena all of this. They're going to
00:23:56.220 make a big issue. They're going to be investigations. They might force the docs to be released. So it's
00:23:59.440 going to happen anyway. Better for Trump and the White House to get ahead of it now. I totally agree.
00:24:04.140 Now we will move on to more substantive issues because the San Francisco Federal Reserve
00:24:09.320 has just destroyed virtually every economist in this country with facts and logic and vindicated
00:24:16.260 part of the Trump tariff policy, though it gets a little complicated. We'll get to that in one
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00:25:39.340 psychiatrist Dr. Josef Witt-Dering to unpack one of the most controversial topics in modern medicine,
00:25:45.440 the link between psychiatric drugs and violent behavior. From SSRIs and Adderall to the rise in
00:25:49.580 mass shootings, we dive deep into how these medications affect the brain, whether Big Pharma's
00:25:54.120 citing the full story. Check out this quick teaser.
00:25:56.380 We've done spinal taps. We've done functional MRI scans, which are real-time scans of the human brain
00:26:03.640 kind of firing. Are there any differences between a depressed person and a non-depressed person?
00:26:09.260 No. What about the relation of these kinds of drugs to violent acts and to aberrant ideologies?
00:26:18.600 I've noticed a major uptick in violence from the left, notably associated with transgenderism,
00:26:26.620 and in the lion's share of these cases. They're on SSRIs.
00:26:31.160 Is it safe for 15 to 20% of our population to be on these drugs? The FDA is sitting on this
00:26:36.320 because they are trying to cover up one of the biggest scandals in modern medical history.
00:26:42.600 That's horrifying.
00:26:43.600 Watch a full episode now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel for the uncensored
00:26:58.760 ad-free version. Subscribe to Daily Wire Plus. Major, major headline out of the Federal Reserve.
00:27:07.380 This is in Fortune. Fed researchers say tariffs actually lower inflation because they're
00:27:13.520 a demand shock that slams employment and economic activity. Okay, so that second part is not good
00:27:18.580 for Trump. The first part is really good for Trump, and it's really good for Scott Besson,
00:27:21.580 the Treasury Secretary. And it's really good for the right-wingers who flew in the face of the
00:27:28.520 liberal consensus and all the elite, smart, really clever people in their own party.
00:27:34.440 Because when some of us were pointing out that tariffs can be good, tariffs serve a purpose.
00:27:41.160 When some of us were not, you know, 33rd degree free traders initiated into the Gnostic cult of
00:27:49.220 liberal trade policy. When some of us said, you know, there's actually a reason that countries
00:27:53.240 use tariffs. Even despite the revisionist history that says that St. Ronald Reagan, you know,
00:27:59.220 was allergic to tariffs and would never countenance such heresy and vile evil.
00:28:05.720 Reagan himself instituted certain tariffs. A bunch of other countries did. This is why Trump,
00:28:09.660 when he was running, I think it was the first time, he said, hey, if tariffs are so bad,
00:28:12.640 how come every other country has them? How come we're the only country that doesn't have them?
00:28:17.280 And so the argument was not that tariffs are the greatest economic policy ever,
00:28:21.460 that they are a fit-all, you know, solution to the entire economy. No, he just said tariffs do serve
00:28:28.220 a purpose. And all the geniuses in the liberal side, but also on the liberal side of the American
00:28:33.960 right, all the free trade absolutists, they would come out and say, actually, you know,
00:28:39.120 actually tariffs just don't work. Because I learned that in my seventh grade social studies class,
00:28:42.900 tariffs don't work. And they lead to higher prices because the prices are passed on to the consumers.
00:28:47.500 And that's why they're inflationary and meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh.
00:28:52.080 And Trump came out with his team, including very, very intelligent, accomplished financial
00:28:56.260 professionals like Scott Besson, the treasury secretary, and said, actually, that's not true.
00:28:59.680 Oh, you're going to find out. That's completely ridiculous. They're all inflationary.
00:29:04.760 Well, here we have it. The Federal Reserve coming out and saying, actually, wow, this is kind of
00:29:10.860 weird. Not only did the tariffs not contribute to inflation, they were deflationary. I should
00:29:19.080 have pulled the clip. Scott Besson, when all of these geniuses on the left and the right were
00:29:23.880 coming out hitting him over the tariff policy, he said, that's not true. Tariffs are deflationary,
00:29:29.180 or they can be deflationary. That is what happened. They were proven right.
00:29:37.140 Contrary to what everyone in both parties was saying, the tariff policy, the Trump economic
00:29:42.680 policy was proven right. Now, there's a caveat here, and it's a pretty big caveat because the
00:29:47.780 economy right now is a little bit shaky. The stock market is doing really well, but it's only really
00:29:51.700 because of seven Silicon Valley stocks. The underlying market is much, much shakier than that. We're
00:29:56.880 probably due for a recession, not because of the Trump policies. That's been building for years at
00:30:01.040 this point, and the Trump policies may or may not contribute to that, not just because of tariffs.
00:30:07.040 The big problem, the big economic problem when Trump came into office was inflation,
00:30:12.760 the massive inflation under Joe Biden. We called it Bidenflation. Trump's policy reduced inflation.
00:30:19.260 Now, the cope here is, and a legitimate caveat is, the reason they reduced inflation is because they
00:30:26.720 were a massive shock to demand for goods that hurt employment numbers and that hurt economic activity.
00:30:34.420 That all could be true. That all could be true. And the warning to the White House here is,
00:30:39.700 you have to get that under control. Looking ahead to the midterms, especially after the pre-midterm
00:30:45.780 elections, those elections in New York and New Jersey and Virginia, you have to make sure that
00:30:50.240 as people seriously are hurting in this economy, that is real. They're not really hurting from
00:30:55.960 inflation, but they are hurting. You need to make sure that you button up the employment problem
00:31:01.840 and the broader economic growth. You have to do that. However, I do think this is good news for them.
00:31:08.920 This is a major notch in the Trump-White House corner of the scoreboard because they were right.
00:31:18.900 Because they tried something different, contravening what everyone else was saying,
00:31:24.360 and they were right. And all the geniuses now look like idiots.
00:31:28.380 So there are still major economic problems that the White House has to confront.
00:31:31.940 But the fact that they were right should give us a little bit of confidence that they might be able
00:31:39.560 to pivot and then focus on the other problems. Because dealing with an economy for the global
00:31:44.340 hegemon is a little bit of a game of whack-a-mole. You fix one problem, that creates other problems.
00:31:48.780 Then you have to go fix those problems. That's going to exacerbate still more problems. Obviously,
00:31:51.920 that's going to happen. It's very important, though. So it's a good sign heading in.
00:31:57.700 Very important heading into the midterms, that people feel as though the economy is going well
00:32:03.100 and will continue to go well. Don't forget, the market sets prices based on what they think
00:32:07.820 is going to happen. It's not even about what's going on today. It's certainly not what goes on
00:32:11.940 yesterday. It's what the market expects to happen tomorrow. So you need people to feel,
00:32:17.980 forget about just the eggheads and all the investors. You need people, broadly voters,
00:32:22.740 to feel as though things are getting better. That's always true. To some degree, it's always
00:32:28.480 the economy stupid, as James Carville said in 92. But it's especially true here because one of the
00:32:34.920 big promises of this presidential term is that we are going to have a golden age. That adjective
00:32:41.340 chosen intentionally, an age that will result in material prosperity, also spiritual prosperity,
00:32:49.140 also cultural prosperity. But material prosperity is part of that. You have to have people believing
00:32:54.760 that that is the case. Can the White House thread that needle? I don't know. They inherited very
00:32:59.920 serious economic problems, and they're trying a novel method, and I hope it works. Now, speaking of
00:33:05.620 things getting better or worse, a devastating clip. It's almost funny in how devastating it is.
00:33:10.860 From a 100-year-old World War II veteran in the UK who was brought on Good Morning Britain to remember
00:33:18.260 his fallen comrades. And it was supposed to be a feel-good story. We fought, we're the greatest
00:33:23.200 generation, and we fought the greatest war ever, and we solved all the world's problems for now and
00:33:26.880 forever. And isn't this great? And you should remember how great that was. That's what they
00:33:30.420 expected the segment to be. And instead, this is what they got.
00:33:36.800 What does Remembrance Sunday mean for you? What is your message?
00:33:42.620 My message is, I can see in my mind's eye, there was rows and rows of white stones of all the hundreds
00:33:51.900 of my friends and everybody else that gave their lives for what? A country of today. No, I'm sorry.
00:34:01.220 But the sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now.
00:34:07.860 Oh, well, I'm sorry.
00:34:09.300 What do you mean by that, though, at this point?
00:34:12.660 What we fought for, and what we fought for was our freedom. We find that even now, it's
00:34:20.940 darn sight worse than what it was when I fought for it.
00:34:27.320 Absolutely devastating. And you can hear the interviewers, they want it to be a happy,
00:34:35.300 feel-good morning segment. So they say, oh, you know, well, sorry you feel that way, but you know,
00:34:39.680 hey, come on, it's a morning show. He goes, no, no. We fought for freedom and things are worse
00:34:46.920 today than they were when we were fighting. Things are not great right now. And what does
00:34:53.140 that mean? What conclusion are we supposed to take? People are going to take the wrong conclusion
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00:37:34.000 your place in Daily Wire history right now. My favorite comment yesterday is from Stray1239,
00:37:39.720 who says, we got digital Ouija boards before GTA 6. So true. So true. Not great for the culture.
00:37:44.420 This 100-year-old World War II veteran, he says, I look at all those rows and rows of white headstones,
00:37:52.560 all my fallen comrades. The sacrifice wasn't worth it. Things are worse today than they were then.
00:38:00.360 He says, we were fighting for freedom. So what were they fighting against? It's easy, especially for the
00:38:07.060 younger viewers and listeners, it's easy to forget, especially because our schools don't teach history
00:38:12.500 anymore. At the time that, in this case, Britain was fighting, but us too, obviously. At the time
00:38:20.080 the allies were fighting, there were twin evils, twin awful ideologies that were rising up in Europe.
00:38:29.300 Even different varieties of the ideologies, but you had communism from the left, which was wreaking
00:38:34.360 havoc on Europe, which just before the Second World War nearly conquered Iberia. You nearly had the
00:38:40.180 Bolsheviks conquering Iberia. They were raping nuns, then killing them. They were killing priests,
00:38:44.460 burning people, shooting at Christ, just grave evils that happily was pushed out of Iberia.
00:38:50.760 But then you also had the rise of Nazism. And so you had communism makes an idol out of class.
00:38:56.880 You had Nazism, which makes an idol out of race. Both Nazism and communism were trying to destroy the
00:39:02.760 church and taking very active steps to destroy the church. In the case of, well, communism had been
00:39:07.160 trying to destroy the Catholic church and Christianity broadly for a very long time.
00:39:11.500 And then Nazism was taking very particular steps to kidnap the Pope, kill the Pope.
00:39:16.040 Hitler wrote to Francisco Franco, said, I consider the Pope my personal enemy,
00:39:19.700 plans to eradicate the church in Germany, all the rest. You have these awful ideologies.
00:39:24.460 And then you have the Anglosphere, Britain and the US, which says, okay, we're going to go in
00:39:30.200 and we're going to, we're going to first beat Nazism after there was a split between the Nazis and the
00:39:35.960 Soviets. Okay. We're going to first beat Nazism. Then we're going to fight this war to beat communism.
00:39:39.060 And we beat Nazism and then we beat communism. And then what happens? Our societies fall apart.
00:39:49.360 And if you're this 100 year old World War II vet, you're looking at this, you're saying,
00:39:52.920 we fought, my comrades died 80 years ago. And now Muslims have taken over my country. They're
00:40:00.200 raping the girls of our country. They're given a free pass to do so. We've had all sorts of hostile
00:40:06.140 foreigners invade Europe, thanks to Germany, actually, thanks to Angela Merkel in Germany.
00:40:11.660 But all throughout Europe, you're seeing the erosion of the freedoms that we thought we were fighting
00:40:16.540 for. You're seeing women in the UK arrested for praying across the street from abortion clinics.
00:40:22.920 And that's not because of communism, exactly. That's not because of fascism or Nazism, exactly.
00:40:30.320 It's because of the third ideology, liberalism. I guess really you would say fourth ideology,
00:40:38.260 because at play, the minor player in World War II was fascism. Communism makes an idol of class.
00:40:44.460 You had a Nazism makes an idol of race. Fascism makes an idol of the state.
00:40:49.300 And then you have liberalism, which makes an idol of the individual, individual autonomy.
00:40:57.740 And what we all thought, what we were told, not just after the Second World War, but after the end
00:41:02.560 of the Cold War, we were told liberalism had won. Liberalism had emerged victorious. This was the
00:41:09.100 final solution, to use a charged phrase from World War II. This was the final solution to our political
00:41:15.020 problems. This was actually the end of history. This was it. No more changes to ideology. No more
00:41:22.800 traditional conflicts. This is it. We're going to have an era of global peace. This is where the idea
00:41:26.980 of just unfettered global trade governed by these international, non-state, exactly, institutions,
00:41:34.180 that's where that emerged from. We're all going to sing kumbaya because history's over.
00:41:37.920 But liberalism failed, too. That's the issue. It's not that Nazism would have been better.
00:41:46.680 Certainly would not have. It's not that communism would have been better. Certainly would not have.
00:41:52.300 It's not that fascism would have been. Fascism was the weakest of those three. It's not that that
00:41:56.440 would have been better. That wouldn't have either. But liberalism failed, too, because ideologies fail.
00:42:03.700 Because, to use a phrase, pardon the jargon, from Michael Oakeshott, great British political
00:42:10.680 philosopher, ideology is the formalized abridgment of the supposed substratum of rational truth contained
00:42:16.220 in the tradition. Formalized, so it's, you know, you can write it down on a piece of paper.
00:42:22.820 Abridgment, you're shrinking it, you're minimizing it, of what we think is the substratum,
00:42:31.760 the operative layer of purely rational truth that we would otherwise get in the tradition.
00:42:38.540 This is why, as all of these ideologies are back in play, communism on the left,
00:42:45.000 pretty over communism. Look at our guy in New York. A little hint of a rise of Nazism, whether it's,
00:42:52.620 Nazism's a dead ideology, as Chris Ruffo pointed out. But there are little ironic hints of it again.
00:42:57.880 Or fascism, you know, people joke, oh, maybe the fascists weren't so bad, whatever.
00:43:01.760 As there are all these rise, and then the liberals are tripling down, what is called for
00:43:06.760 is an alternative. Because all of these ideologies have failed. The failure of liberalism is so tragic
00:43:14.080 that it's bringing a 100-year-old World War II veteran almost to tears on television when he says,
00:43:18.920 wow, look at our country, it's worse off today than it was in the 30s and 40s.
00:43:22.860 What is called for is an alternative to all of those ideologies. An alternative to the habit in
00:43:33.140 modernity of formalizing, abridging, rationalizing, abstracting from the tradition. What is called for
00:43:41.280 is a more classical kind of conception of politics, classical political behavior. Dare I say, a
00:43:47.640 recognition that politics is not primarily about ideas, certainly is not primarily about ideology,
00:43:53.200 but is about people and the common good of the people who are all living together.
00:43:57.640 A common good that we can understand and advance much more sturdily in light of the sturdier
00:44:04.020 political resources, namely tradition, what Chesterton called the democracy of the dead.
00:44:09.420 Was it Chesterton or Burke? I don't know. Either way, they're both wonderful writers. And religion,
00:44:17.440 which is the fundament of all politics. That's what's being called for. This is why another one
00:44:22.740 of the buzzwords that you're hearing these days is post-liberalism. And post-liberalism is this term
00:44:28.680 Adrian Vermeule pointed out the other day. It's a purely negative term. It's kind of like
00:44:33.560 Protestantism in the sense that when you say someone is Protestant, that tells you something,
00:44:37.700 tells you it's not Catholic or Eastern Orthodox, but you don't really know. Is it Baptist? Is it
00:44:41.620 Methodist? Is it Anglican? Is it Presbyterian? Is it all those groups disagree with each other?
00:44:45.800 It's just saying it's not something. Post-liberalism is more a description. It's the conclusion that
00:44:51.720 that guy came to, that great World War II veteran who says, well, liberalism failed.
00:44:57.640 What do we do now? We need something else. There's one story I have to get to. I know I'm out of
00:45:04.220 time, but I don't care. Really, really sad story in New York City. A very shy teen leapt to death
00:45:12.480 from New York City's Regis High School. This is a very prestigious high school in New York
00:45:17.120 because he was about to be punished for offering a controversial opinion in an ethics class.
00:45:24.140 Listen to this. This kid was in an ethics class. They were discussing utilitarianism,
00:45:32.420 a modern rationalist ideology advanced by Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, which says that
00:45:38.520 what we should pursue is the greatest good for the greatest number.
00:45:43.620 So the way we should think about ethics is not whether an act is moral or immoral in itself.
00:45:49.700 That would be Kantian ethics, deontological ethics. It's not that we should think about
00:45:54.780 the whole person who cultivates habits of virtue that allow him to make proper ethical judgments
00:46:02.900 when they present themselves in their complexity, which is too great to merely prescribe all of it
00:46:07.700 in a manifesto. That would be virtue ethics coming from Aristotle. No, no. This modern form which says
00:46:13.480 the way that we determine the morality of actions is by calculating the greatest good for the greatest
00:46:17.520 number. So you could justify anything. By utilitarian ethics, you could justify genocide,
00:46:22.760 murdering babies, and all. And we do, actually. And this kid, we don't know what the opinion was,
00:46:27.740 but he offered a contrary opinion. And he was going to be punished for that. And he was so afraid
00:46:33.520 of being punished, this shy 16-year-old teenager, that he leapt to his death from Regis High School.
00:46:40.740 Pascal Emmanuel Gobri, who is a great tweeter, great writer, but you might follow him on Twitter.
00:46:46.400 He's a very thoughtful guy. He responded to this. He said, we live in a totalitarian society.
00:46:53.420 I think he's totally right. And this is a point I've made on the show. I made this at least a year
00:46:58.900 ago, maybe more than that. I said, it's funny, we think of totalitarianism as communism or Nazism,
00:47:04.940 but liberalism is totalitarian too. In as much as it seeks to control every aspect of your life.
00:47:17.460 You're not allowed to think certain ways. It controls what you post on Instagram. You better
00:47:21.920 post that black square when George Floyd dies. Otherwise, you might be ostracized. You might be
00:47:26.640 guilty of wrong thing. You better, hey, you better trance your kid. Otherwise, maybe the state's
00:47:33.200 going to come in and take your kid from you. You better not express any controversial views. In this
00:47:38.640 case, in a class on a terribly wrong ethical point of view, to contradict that would be a good thing.
00:47:46.380 That shouldn't be controversial at all. Utilitarianism should be controversial.
00:47:49.160 If you do that, you're going to be punished. You're going to leap to your death in some cases.
00:47:53.780 That's totalitarian. And another one of these buzzwords that goes around these days
00:47:57.260 is authoritarian. We say that the left is authoritarian. Not exactly. The left says that
00:48:03.680 the right is authoritarian. That's also kind of silly because even on the right, we're pretty
00:48:10.160 live and let live, pretty laissez-faire. Frankly, we should probably be a little more authoritarian,
00:48:14.660 whatever that word is to mean. Because authoritarian means that the government is strong
00:48:20.680 in a limited number of areas. Hey, we're not going to tolerate Satan displays in the public courthouse.
00:48:29.560 We're not going to tolerate the Satan club going into the elementary school, as we see.
00:48:33.920 We're not going to tolerate transgenderism in public life. We're just not going to tolerate that.
00:48:39.440 But what you do in your own home, we're not going to concern ourselves too much.
00:48:42.880 You can have your opinions. You can discuss your opinions. But in certain limited areas,
00:48:47.940 we're going to maintain cohesion. We're going to insist upon that. That's authoritarian.
00:48:53.700 Totalitarian is when you get kids to rat on their parents to the state.
00:48:59.900 Totalitarian is when the political order tries to control every single thought you have. And if you
00:49:05.240 contradict it in even the mildest of ways, you're going to be impelled to leap to your death.
00:49:08.380 That's totalitarian. That is another ironic failure of liberalism.
00:49:14.340 We thought liberalism was the opposite of totalitarianism. Actually, in the final count,
00:49:20.280 in the final calculation, they seem pretty similar. Okay. Speaking of high school kids,
00:49:25.100 I want to get to this very strange headline, which is not surprising to me, but it's surprising to a lot
00:49:29.980 of people. That 12th grade girls are less likely to want to get married now than boys. First time we've
00:49:35.680 ever seen that. But I don't have time, so we're going to have to get to that tomorrow because
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